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This is in the general section, so I think I'm safe posting this, heh.
I'm going to start by saying this: I love my E3D. I left TMo before getting the Sensation to come back to Sprint for the Evo 3D. Locked bootloader or no, broken promises or no, this is the BADDEST device I've ever had my hands on!
That being said, yes, I'm more than a tad honked off @ HTC for tossing us BS/No answers for the bootloader unlocking issue, and have sent my emails to them in kind. I've been watching the Facebook/Twitter/Official Web sites since these shenanigans started, and what I see shocks me... People literally THREATENING HTC with things ranging from something as severe as hacking the company, to as minor as just returning their phones.
The worst I see though, are the threats to go with the Galaxy S2.
How quickly some forget the crap that Samsung was party to in regards to the Moment, the Epic/Vibrant/Captivate/Fascinate, and the Intercept. Did we all just blank out that time in our collective consciousness, the crap that was packaged as a Samsung device? How terrible they performed? How they kept promising phantom updates that would not show up at all or materialize, brick phones, then be pulled off the market? How they liked to fall apart and not work? The only Samsung device worth its salt, that I can see, is the Nexus S - and that's mostly because it was pure Google software.
Sure, the GS2 may have killer specs that make our Evo 3D's look like yesterday's garbage, but I've not once had ANY issue with my HTC devices from WM6 to Android - but I've had nothing but a terrible history with Sammy, and I know I'm not the only one.
So... IJS. My 2 cents on the whole issue - I hope it was coherent enough to make Sense (lolz)... pain killers for the back are a b****.
Edit: I just read the post with the HTC response that they WILL unlock the bootloader, so that's at least a step in the right direction..
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I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
I'm hoping every thread on the 1st page of the Evo 3d general forums is filled with complaining about bootloader's. Seems to be the trend.
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Sure, the GS2 may have killer specs that make our Evo 3D's look like yesterday's garbage
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
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I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
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That did crack me up.
The complaining got them to step up and commit to unlock in the first place. That HTC page is going to be a warzone until they start systematically issuing the OTAs that will unlock these devices we paid for.
...and so far as the threats of buying Samsung, while I agree with you (except that the NexusS is somehow any better...same weak radios, my main concern), consumers should 'vote with their wallet' more often. Then companies might be a little more cautious about trying bull**** like this. Even if they provide a technically better product if it is not provided on terms you agree with (locked) or worse yet the company lies to you about future functionality...well...vote with your wallet. That's a language they'll understand.
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
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I completely agree with you, and I stay away from everything Sammy usually, so I didn't fully realize how close the devices are hardware-wise.
I'm digging my 3d capability, and I think I've almost got it dialed-in.
All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Ive had SGS2 for two weeks. 3D actually is faster to me. Consistantly.
But camera? Nope. Not really close unfortunately.
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All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Really? Well I'm no camera expert. In the lab, which is all flourescent lighting....EVO 3d did spectacular.
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I know I'll get a bunch of flamers for this and that's to be expected but after having this phone for a lil over a week now, I'm just not as impressed as I thought I would be. Idk, maybe not being able to flash ROMS & do some of the same things I could with my Evo & Epic, but this phone isn't all that mind blowing like I thought it would be. It's defitinely faster/quicker, I can't take that away from it, but thats about it. The screen difference isn't all that noticibale when compared to the OG Evo and still not as crisp or vibrant as the Epic imo. The camera is a improvement but also not by much. 3D is a fad, much like 3D TV's are. I think a Retina-like screen would have been a better feature. The new Sense is nice but it didn't add much over the previous one, plus we had it on the OG Evo. I'll probably keep it anyway and just upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Nexus Prime if they come to Sprint, but just wanted to see if there is anybody else out there who feel like I do.
Not with you either
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Not with u either the speed of this phone is just amazing and i can't stop playing with the Camera lol
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To each their own - I for one love it, and am VERY happy that I ditched that Damn iPhone for the Droid (have a Xoom as well). Im not really sure I see the need to post that you dont like the phone, like anything in the world - Some people will like it and some wont. You cant argue the overall power of this phone, the 3D is cool - but this phone is worth it if you dont use it for 3D at all.... My Wife loves her too - So much that shes going make me live with the damn Sprint Data speeds, she refused to take her 3D back.
You went from an already fast phone, to a dual core version of the same phone with added RAM and a 3D capable screen (in a nutshell). You wouldn't see a major difference. It's like going from a 2 GHz PC to a 3 GHz PC. Sure you have two cores available now, but for your standard functionality, you won't see much of a change. And comparing it to a super AMOLED screen, well, the phone's specs were published beforehand. I never quite expected it to be as crisp as my Wife's Epic, but I love it anyhow.
For me, buying this phone was a hardware upgrade. 3D is a nice extra. Also, I sold my Evo just prior to launch of the 3D for more than enough to buy the phone w/accessories, so why not?
Now, if you were coming from a Hero or something of that nature, then of course the upgrade would be night and day.
I'm very impressed. But I'm coming from a Hero that I hated from day 1, not an EVO 4G. I agree that 3D still seems gimmicky and hurts my eyes after a while but I'm even slowly starting to like it more too.
I've had over 5 single core 1ghz phones
Two of whitch had AMOLED screens
(vibrant and nexus s) and I don't like the fake "vibrant" colors that LED screens have..
And a dual core. (G2X)
I agree with not "feeling" the power for the extra core.. but I also disagree because its the future... Ice cream in Q4 baby!
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i hope your right; and sprint gets it out to us quickly
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Well coming from tmobile with a Sammy vibrant
We didn't get 2.2 till Christmas after they said early October... So anything is faster than that
Plus didn't sprint/htc get updates to the 4G pretty fast?
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I understand the OP. I'm 50/50 whether I keep it or return for SGS2. It's going to sit deactivated until I decide. My fully rooted OG EVO with a custom ROM is preferable to the 3D right now.
But yeah, for months of build up it was kind of a let down from the OG EVO although I think that's our fault. It's very relative. I was hoping for a great camera and now I don't trust HTC...meh.
I'm really liking this phone. The battery life is good, the display is nice, as great horsepower. I get this strange popping every once and awhile when using the headphone jack... But other than that, I'm liking things in HTC Country. I stayed in Samsungville for over a year, I'm not going back for even a more powerful phone.
I agree with the OP. My OG was amazing. The resolution on the Inspire or EVO may be less but the screens are better on the eyes when it comes to the displaysize. The 3D is terrible. Maybe they should call it holographic because it reminds me of old holographic baseball cards. It's quick but, so was my CM7 EVO. Sense 3.0 is meh, I enjoy the new lockscreen widgets. Although I do enjoy the bloatware removal, better battery life, and task manager. I'm debating an SGS2 for a change.
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The phone has grown on me over the past week..I think we will see what this thing can do with future software.. I mean my og EVO oc/d and rommed scrolled.fast. etc..but the gpu is several times proved and we will be able.to run future programs when the og EVO will struggle
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I agree with the OP. My OG was amazing. The resolution on the Inspire or EVO may be less but the screens are better on the eyes when it comes to the displaysize. The 3D is terrible. Maybe they should call it holographic because it reminds me of old holographic baseball cards. It's quick but, so was my CM7 EVO. Sense 3.0 is meh, I enjoy the new lockscreen widgets. Although I do enjoy the bloatware removal, better battery life, and task manager. I'm debating an SGS2 for a change.
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The 3d doesn't look like a hologram unless you move your display to a different angle..
It's a "glasses off 3d" technology If you knew anything about 3d you would know that you need 3 view points to produce and view 3d in the proper form it was intended...
To expect a **** to pop out and slap you in the face is a little much considering its a ****ing PHONE!
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faster than most
Don't get me wrong. I'm not bashing the phone in any way. It's definitely faster and a nice upgrade from my OG Evo. I guess its like somebody else posted, I let my expectations get the better of me. The speed is undeniable, granted I never tried CM or any of the other AOSP ROMS long enough to compare speed/quickness but Myn's, Virus' & Mik's ROMS were pretty fast to me. The 3D is ok if your into that stuff but its a gimmick at best. I own a 3D TV & maybe have watch 2 or 3 movies in 3D. Got it because of the clarity & beauty of the LED. 3D was a extra. Now if they had added a Retnia or comparable screen then we would have something to talk about but this screen isn't any noticeably better than the screen on the OG Evo. Battery life is better than the OG Evo had at its launch but once I got my 3500 Seidio & SBC kernel, battery life didn't matter. I got 2 days on a single charge. Can't really bring Sense into it because we have Sense 3 on the OG Evo also. I guess maybe once we get full root & S-Off and can start really unlocking what the phone can do, my opinion will change but right now its not any better, actually below the OG Evo in functionality & fun. Imo right now I don't see anything this phone does any better than its predecessor.
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Coming from the Hero, this is a HUGE upgrade. Compared to my wife's OG Evo....not so much, until you look 6 months down the road. I think then we'll see the OG Evo's shortcomings. As the apps get bigger and graphically better and we have custom roms running on the 3D I think it will really seperate itself from all of it's predecessors.
See you, quit sucking up our bandwidth.....go somewhere else.
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I played with one at a sprint store. It was okay. The screen itself and design was worth it but I don't care much for the 3d feature. But who knows maybe it will grow. I'm not eligible for an upgrade till October. So I will see what comes till than.
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See you, quit sucking up our bandwidth.....go somewhere else.
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And the douches come out to play.....Been here a lot longer than you buddy. On my 6th Android phone & can't count how many Windows phones before them. When you get some experience under your belt than maybe your opinion will count but until then go troll somewhere else.
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I hope you realize what you're saying about the screen..
"Retina Display" = Apple's name for a 960x540 resolution. The reason it looks a little better is because it's more pixels crammed into a smaller screen.
I'd take a 4.3 over it anyday.
I came from the Epic, and really really like both phones. I really don't think you can go wrong with either.
I am eligible to upgrade my phone and I will just like to know if I should upgrade to the Evo 3d or stay with my Evo 4G.I know is a dumb question but I just want to know what you guys think.thanks
What will you use it for? If just phone calls and or flashing roms...then no...evo been around for awhile and works good. If you need to flash you have tons of customs roms. The evo still holds itself well among phones. But, it you want a kick ass phone that is now not really mod able but will be soon...or desire faster, better and IMO opinion...a really good phone..then yes. I bought the phone for cash...I did not have a upgrade coming until november...when I bought..I knew there was no flash able roms yet..and was not really usable with titanium or root explorer...now that is not the case but I really miss flashing. I have no regrets..the 3d feature is a nice feature..and battery life on this phone is much better than my OG evo. Currently loving the better screen also.
Better screen, faster processor, more RAM, better everything. Once the bootloader is unlocked this phone will explode with ROMs. If you are eligible and have the money, there should be no question.
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Go play with one, if it excites you buy it. Never buy anything that doesn't excite you.
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I'm Going To Agree With Everything Said Already, But Add One More Thing. Look At The 3D Aspect As An ADD-ON. I Think The Reason The Review's For This Phone Are Lower Than Expected Is Because The Reviewers Thought That 3D Was All The Phone Had To Offer.
This Phone Is A Lot More Than Just 3D, And When We Get S-Off, This Phone Will Be The Best.
There is a lot that I don't like about this phone but i still have a problem getting rid of it. If it were me I'd hold off till more bugs vet worked out and the hardware becomes better. I'm on my 3rd 3d and each one has had different problems. The current one has screen lock up.
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Ive had 3 3Ds as well (one I exchanged for another) I did have a problem with one but the other 2 work perfectly. I think the 3D is a truly awesome phone in every way including the 3D part of it. The only thing I dont like is that the screen isnt as wide as the 4G. I know its cause the aspect ratio is 16:9 and the resolution is higher but I miss it. I still would trade it for a 3D in a second.
It depends on what your looking for and how long you want to wait. Personally I love the 3vo. But Sprint is getting some other high end phones (photon, within aka gsII, possibly a nexus in November...) and your og EVO will easily last till those phones come out. I couldn't wait any longer cuz I love the latest and greatest so I got the 3vo
stay with the evo 4g wait for a better phone to come out I hate my 3d data speeds suck I when back to my evo 4g and data is great again
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It depends on what your looking for and how long you want to wait. Personally I love the 3vo. But Sprint is getting some other high end phones (photon, within aka gsII, possibly a nexus in November...) and your og EVO will easily last till those phones come out. I couldn't wait any longer cuz I love the latest and greatest so I got the 3vo
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Seriously..wait for a crappy motorola(which is bootloader locked, and never will be unlocked) or a even more crappy samsung product..get real he asked about EVOs..And to the OP..def get the 3d..dude above said it perfect..3d is an addon..the phone is a beast spec wise!!
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Seriously..wait for a crappy motorola(which is bootloader locked, and never will be unlocked) or a even more crappy samsung product..get real he asked about EVOs..And to the OP..def get the 3d..dude above said it perfect..3d is an addon..the phone is a beast spec wise!!
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Just because you don't personally like Motorola or Samsung doesn't mean they aren't good products... I like HTC best but other manufacturers do have advantages in certain aspects. And he never specifics about just evos. Although I did re read his post and it doesnt ask about upgrading later. All I'm saying is theres no need to flame I was just trying to be helpful like everyone else here.
Coming from an EVO myself I like this one a lot, I miss the kickstannd but I do like it that is a bit longer and less wide easier to hold on the hand, we don't have roms but they are some themes a lot good ones too so you don't need to depend on HTC for them zone23 came from the EVO as well, teamwin, I haven't seen any other developers tho, battery life is better RAM helps a lot duel core is nice but i don't think is use completely with OS and we're pretty sure we getting ice cream update, HTC sense if you like it on the EVO you will love it here , sure myn, ava and xxxvirusxxx and other developers has done a great job with synergy but having out the box works amazing , I sold my EVO with extras for 160$ ( broken digitizer ) and I pay like 56$ with tac more and I'm happy not missing root to much cause there is a lot cuztomization on the stock sense hope the helps
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Honestly
I think the 3vo is a better overall phone. Honestly I was able to sell the EVO stock for $250 so I actually made money off the upgrade. But the 3vo is in my opinion faster and a better phone. If you can deal with not being able to root it yet, which for some is a dealbreaker then its a no brainer in my opinion
3VO has a higher resolution and much faster processor. Right now you can Oc'd to 1.8 if you want too. It's amazing. And you still have the customization of adw ex. I came from EVO og and was flashing roms all the time. This just works so fast and well out of the box. The speed and resolution are what's really keeping me with the 3VO. I don't think I can do a lower res like gs2 ever again.
I see a lot of people hate the Evo 3D .....why? Alot of people are trading them for the Photon and i don't understand y.....
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The reason I keep hearing is the updates. I dunno personally, I got mine on launch day and never did a update. The other thing I suspect is most best buy/radioshack think it dosn't have hdmi out. Mostly I think it is poor salesmen who think the only feature of the phone is the 3d.
It is what it is.... People have their own reasons for not liking the evo 3d just like anything else. You got your evo 3d so just have fun with it.
It's the tech-train playa. People come and go so they can stay on the cutting edge of hardware progression. It was the same when I was with the Hero.
Just wave them goodbye on their journey and enjoy the awesome phone you have in your hand. I know I am!
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Just wave them goodbye on their journey and enjoy the awesome phone you have in your hand. I know I am!
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You and me both!!
But arent the specs on the 3D superior to those on the photon???
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I think its because htc did a terrible job of marketing the evo. For example, the evo3d is to the og evo as the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4. Maybe even a little more if a step up with screen resolution. Htc shouldve used the 3d selling point like apple uses SIRI. People thought the only reason to get the new evo was for the 3d feature. I do love 3d but the first time u see a 3d pic it is taboo and people never gave it that second look. I think they should have went the evo 2 route and when people went to buy it they would be like "it can do 3d also? Wow!" Apple had lines out of their store because they sold a upgraded phone with a bonus cool feature IMO.
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I think its because htc did a terrible job of marketing the evo. For example, the evo3d is to the og evo as the iphone 4s is to the iphone 4. Maybe even a little more if a step up with screen resolution. Htc shouldve used the 3d selling point like apple uses SIRI. People thought the only reason to get the new evo was for the 3d feature. I do love 3d but the first time u see a 3d pic it is taboo and people never gave it that second look. I think they should have went the evo 2 route and when people went to buy it they would be like "it can do 3d also? Wow!" Apple had lines out of their store because they sold a upgraded phone with a bonus cool feature IMO.
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Totally agree!
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Im happy with my Evo.. in my personal opinion the only thing that the phone is missing is sense 3.5...
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i love my evo 3d but another reason would be the lack of content especially when compared to optimus 3d/thrill 4g
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But arent the specs on the 3D superior to those on the photon???
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If that's the case, you wouldn't know it. The problem is, even with the dual core processor, the extra ram, etc, I still see tons of lag throughout the OS, in all apps. HTC should have spent more time tweaking Sense for speed and smoothness. The only place where the 3D really shines over the 4G is when using pinch to zoom in the browser, or in photos. I notice a huge difference there.
As far as working on the user experience, I think Samsung has done a fantastic job with their Touchwiz. Like it, or hate it, the menus are butter smooth, and it's almost impossible to find a spot where their devices lag.
Same with Motorola. I have noticed a little lag when using the photon, but the phone feels better in hand, and their "blur" interface isn't as resource intensive as Sense is.
I really like the 3D, but compared to the Evo 4G, or even other dual core beasts from motorola/samsung/etc, it just isn't the upgrade the 4G users were looking for. I'm hoping the ICS update (I plan on rooting, and installing a vanilla rom) will clear up any lag with the device, and make it run like it should have from the beginning.
Now, I'm going to go nag HTC to streamline sense, to make it run more smoothly.
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If that's the case, you wouldn't know it. The problem is, even with the dual core processor, the extra ram, etc, I still see tons of lag throughout the OS, in all apps. HTC should have spent more time tweaking Sense for speed and smoothness. The only place where the 3D really shines over the 4G is when using pinch to zoom in the browser, or in photos. I notice a huge difference there.
As far as working on the user experience, I think Samsung has done a fantastic job with their Touchwiz. Like it, or hate it, the menus are butter smooth, and it's almost impossible to find a spot where their devices lag.
Same with Motorola. I have noticed a little lag when using the photon, but the phone feels better in hand, and their "blur" interface isn't as resource intensive as Sense is.
I really like the 3D, but compared to the Evo 4G, or even other dual core beasts from motorola/samsung/etc, it just isn't the upgrade the 4G users were looking for. I'm hoping the ICS update (I plan on rooting, and installing a vanilla rom) will clear up any lag with the device, and make it run like it should have from the beginning.
Now, I'm going to go nag HTC to streamline sense, to make it run more smoothly.
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I agree with u on the whole sense pulling to much from that phone making it lag.it suppose to b a beast but yet it doesn't feel near as quick or sharp as let say et4g or photon.I believe that's another reason it gets passed up.n the 3d camera is kool but when it comes down to it u can't share 3d pics with non 3d phones n so it just basically a 5mp camera with a dual core that feels sluggish cause of sense.
So people just overlook its features cause I believe it doesn't feel like the great phone that it is.I hope when they make the new evo they will make it king of the hill with a better optimized sense.
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I dont see where people feel lag on the evo3d. After about a month of using a evo3d, downgrading back to a evo4g or nexus is almost unbearable. As for the photon, that UI feels laggy straight out of the box. As for sense, the real world doesnt like plain android. This is why everyphone has something covering it up. The evo3d is a powerhouse, so is the epic touch. I guess u can say the newer sg2s are to since they are about the same as the 3d.
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Photon's radio (phone, not FM) is much better than E3D's. Where I get 1 bar on 3D, Photon got 4.....that's a MAJOR reason to switch!!!
I never liked the feel of the EVO4g or the low screen resolution. Phone never felt good to me. I love the 3d because of the tall screen and the qhd and fast processor. I kept my hero when I got my 1 year upgrade on sero because I did not like the EVO4g. And I was the first person to get a consumer hero shipped from Sprint
Sense blows, I run viperrom with adw in the foreground and after a while sense turns itself off
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I honestly think it all depends on the phone you had previously. I had a samsung entro, which was just a regular qwerty texting phone. Upgrading to the evo 3d blew my mind. The entro took about 30 mins to boot up, my evo take 20 seconds.
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Photon's radio (phone, not FM) is much better than E3D's. Where I get 1 bar on 3D, Photon got 4.....that's a MAJOR reason to switch!!![/QUOT
True, the photon does have a great radio but bars dont mean anything. My evo4g lokks like it gets better signal than my 3d but i can stream youtube on the 3d and can even gwt a video pic on my 4g.
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I just rolled w/ the Photon for a week and I hated every second of it.
The phone runs stupidly; even w/ the removal of Blur and such; you CANNOT remove all the Moto crap without crippling your phone (see: contact fcs after you try and remove yahoo bullcrap); and the feeling of the phone in hand is pretty lackluster. Along w/ that there are just so many little software issues; glitches in the UI, glitches in the Radios (my phone liked to go into International Roaming at random), too much work to do the simplest tasks (see: using the stock gallery/music apps), etc.
Overall, sense aside, I am MUCH happier with the Evo 3D; too bad about all the hardware issues I've come across (see: 4 Evo 3D exchanges since launch). Hoping this little guy will last me until the next big thing pops out of the water. I was really thinking of hopping over to the ET or the iP4S but there's too many incongruencies w/ my habits of phone use and those devices.
Really, I'm putting my all of my faith in the Devs to step up to the plate and get some fully-working AOSP goodness on this beast.
Also, once ICS (stock) comes out we SHOULD get an upgraded Sense (even 3.5 would be a major upgrade to this bloated-ass 3.0) so I'm hoping that happens sooner rather than later.
tl;dr - People hate this phone because Sense sucks at life and because of the hardware build/quality of parts (camera, radio, screen, BUTTONS!).
:3 -two cents
People that hate evo 3D hate out of ignorance.
Let them hate.... 3d has some legit specs. flash miui and watch it fly....
I know I am actually IN the 3D forums lol so it might be biased but I just would like an honest opinion on it. Plus I know a lot of people here were from the 4G forums so they have a better comparison.
I have an opportunity to basically get a free 3D and I can either give my g/f my Evo 4G or give her the 3D. The 4G community on XDA is fantastic and booming right now with ICS and all things Sense 3.0 and 3.5. The phone itself is a beast for being so old too.
How is the community here as far as being on the pulse of new stuff and ICS ect...? I like having options for flashing that are stable and updated. I also didn't really see a solid WIP project for ICS unless I just missed it. I assumed something of that nature would be on the 1st page with the new discovery of hardware acceleration.
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The EVO 3D is better than the EVO 4G in virtually every single way, except for the development. It is quite slow and nothing compared to the 4G. The 4G is also older and has matured more as a phone, so I would expect its development community to be better.
freeza said:
The EVO 3D is better than the EVO 4G in virtually every single way, except for the development. It is quite slow and nothing compared to the 4G. The 4G is also older and has matured more as a phone, so I would expect its development community to be better.
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i second what freeza says. to tell you the truth, im a little dissapointed with the development of the evo 3d, at least as far as AOSP roms go. i feel like we have plenty of sense roms though, so if thats your thing, then great. I was a former cm7 user though and we still don't even have a beta of CM7 and havnt had an update since like october for cm7.
The phone itself is great, I am not completely upset about development because the e3d handles sense with ease. It is much more smooth and fast then my evo 4g ever was even with cm7 and over clocking.
to be clear. i do suggest you take the 3d, it is definitely a better phone. heres why
-better camera - yes less mp, but the flash works 100x better and it just wor3ks better. plus the camera hardware button is awesome. o ya, too. lol
-faster, smoother
-higher resolution screen.
-i think it feel better in you hand. personal preference i guess though.
The only real complaint I have about the 3D is the camera button. I actually prefer having a physical button, but it looks and feels tacked-on like an afterthought -- it should've been more like the volume buttons in shape and height. Otherwise, it's got a great feel to it, not as heavy-feeling as the 4G, but not cheap-feeling like some Samsung phones. The 3D camera is a gimmick that you'll soon get over, so thank goodness it's a great phone in every other respect.
I use CleanROM on mine after using Deck's AOSP on my 4G, and I don't notice any slowdown. I prefer HTC's calendar, dialer, contacts, and clock apps, so I was glad to be able to go back to Sense again (I use LP as my launcher though).
If the EVO 4G had a dual core processor I would say stick with it. While both screens are 4.3" the EVO 4G screen appears larger because of the 16:9 ratio used on the EVO 3D.
The EVO 3D screen also appears dropped down in the phone and not as flush with the bezel. You do get a better resolution on the 3D but HTC needs to step up the quality and colors of their screens to stay competitive.
I found the camera button to be a waste on the 3D as you had to push down so hard for it to take a pic that you would end up moving the whole camera. The pictures are def. better on the 3D but the camera still has a long ways to go to catch up to the competition.
Bottom line, knowing that quad core devices are around the corner, you will def. want to go with the dual core phone so you do not get left to far behind in the dirt...
Well, I now on the 3D. Only problem is it's hboot 1.5 so it seems I have a bit of reading to do to get some custom goodness going.
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@hockey4life the AOSP has really been stepped up over there btw. Most of it is obviously Cyanogen based but the custom Roms are solid and nice. MIUI is pretty popular and solid as well. ICS just today is in Preview 3 with hardware acceleration and for what it is is pretty stable as well.
When the 3D hardware becomes obsolete the value of the device will plummet, and the development will completely cease, I would predict. Where as the 4g will hold its resale value, and development might actually continue after the 3D dies. Also, the 3D will never have the size and speed of development that the 4g does and will.
The hardware is clearly superior though, and will still remain relevant after new devices come.
Your all leaving out the fact that the speaker on the 3D is terrible! Evo 4G's wasn't spectacular to begin with, but it puts the 3D's to shame!
Itt: ooh look at me, I have an amazing phone and all I do is hate on it
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I predict in June of next year, you're going to see a dramatic drop in the number of Evo 4G users ...
z50king said:
Itt: ooh look at me, I have an amazing phone and all I do is hate on it
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What the hell man? The freaking title even says HONEST opinion. The only way to answer his question with the least amount of bias is to include the pros AND cons of the device. You would never see a review online that doesn't include the high and low points, so why should this thread be any different? So you believe your device is great, but the thread asked for opinions, and that is what he got.
Hey, some people get a phone and hate it but are stuck with it. Lord knows i have gotten the "next best thing" and had to sit on it awhile so definitely good to get both sides.
I'm just shy of 24 hours into it and am enjoying it. I saw a lot of good points about the EVO 4G development and the 3D development. One thing I will say about the 3D that i am liking is that it is native Sense 3.0 and it runs SOOO smooth. 4G dev right now is hot but it's all beta and hacked 3.0/3.5 and ICS, no 4G no fully functioning camera, sms past 160 ect... The devs are absolutely amazing for what they do but compared to what I am seeing 3.0 should be running like it's like putting on that shirt you like that just quite doesn't fit anymore.
Don't flame me for this but it still is my opinion that this is a gimmick phone, 3D just wasn't very well thought out. I was literally over it about the 2nd picture lol. It's unfortunate that the 3D aspect is what prevents the devs from really digging in and blowing this thing up because dual core, EVO, and HTC all just equal greatness.
Ah well, thank you guys for the ups and downs, please if there is anything else I should know post up. I have been doing some non stop reading so far. Currently I am already HTC Unlocked and running Vipers Rom. I'm still learning about my limitations with hboot 1.5 but it seems to be just a few extra steps. I'll probably run this rom for a bit, any decent kernels out there? I'm not ready for the OC or undervolting yet but would like a decent kernel. My 4G was undervolted(is that a word lol) but this is a different beast.
All in all it was a free phone so I can't beat that with a stick.
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Hey, some people get a phone and hate it but are stuck with it. Lord knows i have gotten the "next best thing" and had to sit on it awhile so definitely good to get both sides.
I'm just shy of 24 hours into it and am enjoying it. I saw a lot of good points about the EVO 4G development and the 3D development. One thing I will say about the 3D that i am liking is that it is native Sense 3.0 and it runs SOOO smooth. 4G dev right now is hot but it's all beta and hacked 3.0/3.5 and ICS, no 4G no fully functioning camera, sms past 160 ect... The devs are absolutely amazing for what they do but compared to what I am seeing 3.0 should be running like it's like putting on that shirt you like that just quite doesn't fit anymore.
Don't flame me for this but it still is my opinion that this is a gimmick phone, 3D just wasn't very well thought out. I was literally over it about the 2nd picture lol. It's unfortunate that the 3D aspect is what prevents the devs from really digging in and blowing this thing up because dual core, EVO, and HTC all just equal greatness.
Ah well, thank you guys for the ups and downs, please if there is anything else I should know post up. I have been doing some non stop reading so far. Currently I am already HTC Unlocked and running Vipers Rom. I'm still learning about my limitations with hboot 1.5 but it seems to be just a few extra steps. I'll probably run this rom for a bit, any decent kernels out there? I'm not ready for the OC or undervolting yet but would like a decent kernel. My 4G was undervolted(is that a word lol) but this is a different beast.
All in all it was a free phone so I can't beat that with a stick.
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its not really the 3d thats holding it back at all really. the only problem with the 3d is that feature will just be omitted on any roms that aren't built off the stock rom (like cm7 or sense 3.5, but i think they just figured out 3d on 3.5.). the chipset, or the low popularity of the chipset is holding it back. I dont believe there our any stable cm7 releases on our chipset family.
also want to add, none of the modded roms even feel as fast as the stock rom; therefore, since the phone is free, i dont see any reason not to upgrade. I kinda forgot about the whole hboot issue, i know they have some workarounds but i have the old one so i have never dealt with it.
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also want to add, none of the modded roms even feel as fast as the stock rom;
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Orly?
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Speaker is quiet. Overall I like the phone. I came from an epic 4g, and this community has 10x the development. I like the rom's and options everyone is putting out. I like the qhd screen and the dual core. The 3d is cool to show off to people. I think 3d takes better pictures than 2d as far as lighting goes. It runs very smooth stock, and that was the biggest reason I got it. Flipped the screen, it started the carousel thing, extremely smooth, and I bought it.
I forgot to mention. I got a free evo 4g a few weeks before the 3d, and I think the 3d is 5x better. It was a solid decision in my book getting the 3d.
Evo 3D taking it to Redline V2!
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Orly?
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i mean none of the modded evo 4g roms feel as fast as the stock evo 3d rom. i should have clarified.
hockey4life0099 said:
i mean none of the modded evo 4g roms feel as fast as the stock evo 3d rom. i should have clarified.
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Oh ok. I was like, Oh no, the system will fail if Hockey is tripping balls
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i mean none of the modded evo 4g roms feel as fast as the stock evo 3d rom. i should have clarified.
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Yea they weren't designed for the 4g. Hell native sense is still 1.0. The 2.1 rooms are dam smooth but when you have that 3.0 goodness why settle.
I like my choice so far. About the 3d holding it back, I'm clearly going on stuff I have read. I have seen both sides of the fence on that.
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freeza said:
The EVO 3D is better than the EVO 4G in virtually every single way, except for the development. It is quite slow and nothing compared to the 4G. The 4G is also older and has matured more as a phone, so I would expect its development community to be better.
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Exactly. This phone bores me.
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blizzard1017 said:
Yea they weren't designed for the 4g. Hell native sense is still 1.0. The 2.1 rooms are dam smooth but when you have that 3.0 goodness why settle.
I like my choice so far. About the 3d holding it back, I'm clearly going on stuff I have read. I have seen both sides of the fence on that.
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I can accurately tell you with confidence why the evo 3D development and popularity isn't there. You are right, the 3D is just a gimmick. Until glasses free 3D technology hits HD resolution, vibrant color depth, doesn't hurt people's eyes, and more devices can display 3D it will just be a feature that is nearly irrelevant, not a selling point. So, if you take away the 3D you are left with a phone that has hardware that is not at all revolutionary. Don't get me wrong, it performs well, but none of the technical specs were "never before seen".
Now, the 4g was revolutionary when it came out. First Android device device with 4g, in the world. Hdmi, 8mp camera, 1ghz snap dragon processor. All those features made the thing real popular. The number of people that own the device is therefore much higher. The hardware isn't the best out anymore but still very well preforming for current software trends.