So I am going to pick up a NT next week reguardless but I need to know. If you root the NT, does that clear up being able to use ALL of the 16GB internal storage? I know that as it comes, only 1GB of non B&N contact. Or do I have to install a different ROM to use all of the 16GB
rbellis said:
So I am going to pick up a NT next week reguardless but I need to know. If you root the NT, does that clear up being able to use ALL of the 16GB internal storage? I know that as it comes, only 1GB of non B&N contact. Or do I have to install a different ROM to use all of the 16GB
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Kinda...load stuff onto a sd card and then use root explorer app to move to your internal locked down internal storage.
xdahgary said:
Kinda...load stuff onto a sd card and then use root explorer app to move to your internal locked down internal storage.
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Sorry....I do not have the tablet yet so I dont fully understand. So if I flash the Gapps and get the full market. I still can't install past the 1GB but if I "side load" (I believe that is what you are explaining) then I can exceed the 1GB and use the other 15GB?
Please let me know if I am understanding this corectly
np, I dont have it either...yet.
So what I've read, sideloading and installing apps from markets (amazon, google android) all goes to the 15gb storage. When you plug in usb to computer, only the 1gb is available to transfer files. So use an external micro sdcard to transfer files from computer and then use root explorer on the tablet to move from the 1gb to 15gb storage to get around it all.
xdahgary said:
np, I dont have it either...yet.
So what I've read, sideloading and installing apps from markets (amazon, google android) all goes to the 15gb storage. When you plug in usb to computer, only the 1gb is available to transfer files. So use an external micro sdcard to transfer files from computer and then use root explorer on the tablet to move from the 1gb to 15gb storage to get around it all.
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Not the ideal way but that will def work! Thank you so much!
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Has anyone been able to successfully move an app from the internal storage to an sd card on the NT? I have tried using App2sd and Astro file manager to move apps, but every time I move one, it breaks the app and I end up have to reinstall it to the main storage.
How can I move or initially install apps to my sd card?
Thanks in advance.
Moves, but disappears
SuperToolbox moves them to the SDcard nicely, and they work until I reboot. Then they are GONE!
Is there a cure for this?
Apps2SD/ZDBox?
Has anyone had any better luck with this? Both Apps2SD and ZDBox break the app. And at least in the case of ZDBox, the application never even shows up on the SD card when I do a search.
Had to ask: Why would you want to move an app to SD? I understand that the nook has sufficient storage space to handle a lot (something like 13GB) of apps.
Drenhead said:
Has anyone been able to successfully move an app from the internal storage to an sd card on the NT? I have tried using App2sd and Astro file manager to move apps, but every time I move one, it breaks the app and I end up have to reinstall it to the main storage.
How can I move or initially install apps to my sd card?
Thanks in advance.
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in all honesty it weird that you would want to install apps on to your SD card since you basically have 13GB of access for apps. Installing apps from your SD card goes into the data folder on the NT if i am not mistaken, and apps take very little space unless you are downloading games which have like additional content that takes like 1gb of space. Even then you should still have sufficient storage...
you guys know that we can only use 1 gig of all that internal storage, right? because the other 12 gigs are dedicated to Barnes and Noble content...
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you guys know that we can only use 1 gig of all that internal storage, right? because the other 12 gigs are dedicated to Barnes and Noble content...
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Have you read any of the threads on the partitioning of the device?
Google says no speed difference.... so I am wondering if I really need a card or not.
Other than for music, videos, etc... do most of you install apps to internal storage or to your SD?
The B&N version of Android doesn't play well with moving apps to the SD. They install to the larger (15GB?) B&N partition anyway, so it really doesn't matter spacewise. On my phone, I do move some larger apps to the SD, but I haven't even worried about it on the NT.
There are more than 11G internal storage you can use to install apps,big enough
But some apps need a sdcard to run
If you haven't one, you cannot run it
Yep, I've noticed that apps I've tried to run from the sdcard don't seem to work most of the time.
Tel864 said:
Yep, I've noticed that apps I've tried to run from the sdcard don't seem to work most of the time.
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Yeah , I concur ... 12Gb (after rooting) of internal [/data] is good enough
Got my new Note, this is my first droid phone, and I got LOTS of questions. I currently have the i717 version, unrooted.
1) Is currently is any reliable way to install ICS on the i717?
2) How do I check if there were any previous kernel or ROM flashes?
3) Is there a reliable way to root the device WITHOUT increasing the counter (assuming it is currently at 0)?
4) How do I move installed apps, which are currently under "System Storage" to "USB storage"?
I can answer all of your questions very simply. Search and read.
yep all ur answers are here just gotta read,
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Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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funziebear said:
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
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Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Read this paragraph again.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
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^^ got it, thanks.
K I researched and read, I still cannot find out if I can safely root my Bell i717, without increasing the flash counters.
Also, it seems there is no ICS yet available for this device.
Can someone please chime in?
wow this thread cleared up a lot for me. Still got a few questions though...so when i go to settings and click on an app and click "move app to sd" it moves it to the "internal sd" which has about 12gb of space? so then what goes on the external sd card? is the storage on the SD card ONLY accessible when you plug it into a computer and put it in mass storage mode? I remember when I had my nexus one, moving apps to sd actually put it on the external sd card..
The note is not a DROID. Droid is a verizon marketing term.
You can reset your flash counter. So even if you increase it by flashing CWM or rooting then just reset it back to 0. That's what I did.
Once CWM is installed flash all the ROMs you want through CWM. Just back up nandroid first and you can always go back.
I use a 64GB microSD card and store nandroid backups, photos, videos, podcasts, etc.
The internal SD (USB Storage) is used for app data.
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Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
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Root ir phone throigh odin then go search dev thread for the rom u want read the requiements then flash they r all good
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... You don't need root to flash a ROM.
Instead of rooting with Odin, just flash CWM with Odin then flash the ROM from there.
The only reason to root first, is to run titanium backup if you so desire
I know this issue has been covered many times on the forum but I couldn't find a proper way to solve it.
I am having a Galaxy S2 running official jelly bean 4.1.2.
I don't know why Samsung has partition the internal storage this bad :/
It only gives us 2 GB for installing apps from the play store and currently I'm running out of Internal storage because I keep a lot of apps on my phone. I can't even move any app (not even a single app) to USB Storage. I always get the error that "Unable to move app. Not enough storage space."
I got around 6-7 GB free in my USB Storage so there is a lot of space there.
Is there any way to increase the Internal storage (2 GB) to a bigger size 3 GB or 4 GB or a solution so that I can transfer the apps to the USB storage?
Thanks in advance.
Usb. Is were the Rom and kernel ie running system is. Sd card is were you keep apps and things and ext sd is well ext sd card. If you have 7gb free then you put them there. Why would you want to put them in Usb. ? Usb is for running system not for apps. Sd card is for that.
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Usb. Is were the Rom and kernel ie running system is. Sd card is were you keep apps and things and ext sd is well ext sd card. If you have 7gb free then you put them there. Why would you want to put them in Usb. ? Usb is for running system not for apps. Sd card is for that.
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Okay then What I meant is that how can I move the apps which are installed in my Internal storage(2GB) to the usb storage(or as u defined SD card) Since it always gives me the error "Unable to move app. Not enough storage space"
I dont have an external SD card plugged in my Galaxy S2. Just the internal 16 gigs. is all I have
What space is left on both pls. only part of the apps will be moved to Usb. Why do you want to fill up Usb??
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Okay then What I meant is that how can I move the apps which are installed in my Internal storage(2GB) to the usb storage(or as u defined SD card) Since it always gives me the error "Unable to move app. Not enough storage space"
I dont have an external SD card plugged in my Galaxy S2. Just the internal 16 gigs. is all I have
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On my phone, if apps are moved to sd they exist on the external SD card. Maybe that's why it says you don't have enough space, because you don't have an external sd card? I guess any small one would do, no need to splash out for a 64GB one...
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On my phone, if apps are moved to sd they exist on the external SD card. Maybe that's why it says you don't have enough space, because you don't have an external sd card? I guess any small one would do, no need to splash out for a 64GB one...
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I got your point mate. You meant that I must need to have a external micro SD card to move my apps?
And in this case I can't move them to my USB Storage?
One thing more, I could move my apps to usb storage when I was using Super Nexus 2.0 ROM..
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What space is left on both pls. only part of the apps will be moved to Usb. Why do you want to fill up Usb??
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The internal storage is almost full just some MB's left there out of 2GB. And the USB storage got enough 6GB-7GB left. I want to fill up the USB so that I can download more apps because at this moment,my internal memory is completely full and I cant download any app from the Play store so that's why I want to move them to the USB storage.
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I got your point mate. You meant that I must need to have a external micro SD card to move my apps?
And in this case I can't move them to my USB Storage?
One thing more, I could move my apps to usb storage when I was using Super Nexus 2.0 ROM..
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I just checked on my phone: with external sd card I can move apps to sd, without I get the message you mentioned. So either use an external sd card or a ROM that allows you to use the internal sd card.
Okay thanks for your help.
I guess I need to buy a 16 gb micro SD card. Can anyone tell me how much a good micro SD card costs? With a speed that won't be causing problems so that I can play games easily without affecting the speed.
Don't cheap out on them. Sandisk are best. 16gb £20-30
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Don't cheap out on them. Sandisk are best. 16gb £20-30
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I'll look forward to buy it. Thanks
Its worth the money mate. Glad you sorted it. can you add solved to thread title pls :thumbup:
storage space is running out
i am using jellybean 4.2.2 gti9100 nexus rom on my S2 shw m250k.....i have now shortage problem in my storage(rom 2GB).......but i cant understand the storage info.......(82.81MB+726MB+2.95MB is not equals to 1GB)... ...i have not so big apps in my phone.....only 90 system apps and small games....can anyone help
Does anyone happen to know if Android M will be adding support for installing applications to external USB storage?
Id like to know that as well, but for the moment Im using foldermount to map the data and obb folders to the external usb and its working perfectly
You need to be rooted first to use foldermount, correct?
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You need to be rooted first to use foldermount, correct?
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Yes, that is correct.
i need Android M to use my micro SD card as my main storage on my box but want can i do? my system is rooted and i have stickmont mounted with a USB 3.0 hub with 3 4TB drives for my media in Kodi can i still use foldermount with stickmount for my SD card
It's foldermount and I've not tried it through a hub. As long as you can see the drive in a file manager you should be able to map folders to it. If not your just need to run one of the drives directly from the usb3 port on the Sheild and run everything else through the hub on the other port
Thanks for the clarification. I was a bit confused on this myself.
I guess my main interest was ,can you install directly to external storage without the need for root or foldermount in Android M? Have any of you testers looked at this yet?
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I guess my main interest was ,can you install directly to external storage without the need for root or foldermount in Android M? Have any of you testers looked at this yet?
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Android M allows you merge the external device with the internal storage capacity. it locks the external storage device to that android device but effectively shows it as internal storage and is used as such.
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Android M allows you merge the external device with the internal storage capacity. it locks the external storage device to that android device but effectively shows it as internal storage and is used as such.
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Quick question mate because I can't seem to get a definitive answer. Will it allow you to do that with external usb storage as well or just the sd card?
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I have been on the fence on which version of Shield to purchase. I have no issue with foldermount but moving the data manually gets to be a pain in the butt. Even with foldermount once you start installing a games library moving just the obb data to external storage still fills up the internal drive pretty fast. These streaming boxes need a solution to connect external drives out of the box without any mods whatsoever which I hope M will fix? $300.00 for a Android Box is very steep when you consider a Xbox one is about the same price with current promotions.
I bought the 16 GB and don't regret it. With an old 32 GB micro SD and root hacks there is no issue of storage space even with half a dozen big games (e.g. Half-Life 2) and many smaller games and apps. Also, the 16 GB box is completely silent (which I imagine an SSHD wouldn't be after a few years). I store my media collection on a NAS that wouldn't even fit on the 500 GB anyway. Furthermore I think they've announced (over on Nvidia's official forum) that SD card write access will be enabled in firmware upgrade v2.0, which is the next to be released and presumably is based on Android M. I simply wouldn't pay $300 for a TV box, $200 was already a stretch.
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I have been on the fence on which version of Shield to purchase. I have no issue with foldermount but moving the data manually gets to be a pain in the butt. Even with foldermount once you start installing a games library moving just the obb data to external storage still fills up the internal drive pretty fast.
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With foldermount I have mapped the obb and data folders to external usb 3. You shouldn't have to move data manually, once set it will just go there automatically. I've got 2.5ish gig used on the internal which is just the stock rom and a few apps and I've used about 50gig on the usb3 with my mapped folders and some Roms. I can't envisage ever running out of space on the internal, as its basically just holding the stock rom and any apk's I install.
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With foldermount I have mapped the obb and data folders to external usb 3. You shouldn't have to move data manually, once set it will just go there automatically. I've got 2.5ish gig used on the internal which is just the stock rom and a few apps and I've used about 50gig on the usb3 with my mapped folders and some Roms. I can't envisage ever running out of space on the internal, as its basically just holding the stock rom and any apk's I install.
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How did you map folders to your external drive? And you mapped them and now they move automatically? Can you talk me through the process?
LiamAtkins90 said:
How did you map folders to your external drive? And you mapped them and now they move automatically? Can you talk me through the process?
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You need root and the paid version of foldermount obviously and you need to have a mouse to navigate the setup because you can't set it up using just the controller. Other than that its pretty straightforward, select the folder you want to move and foldermount will suggest a location to move it to. By default it will map to the external sd card but there is a little box at the top right hand corner and if you click it you can select your own location. It will then offer to move everything already in the folder to the new location. This may take some time obviously and you wont see the notification to say that it was running to be patient. Then click the box in setting that says apply on boot and your all done.
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I don't think Android M will support installing applications to external Usb storage.
Android is always more inclined to using persistant storage for apps / media / whatever. Which is why nexus phones don't have micro sd slot. I wouldn't think Android will support this feature anytime in near future.
bharat g said:
I don't think Android M will support installing applications to external Usb storage.
Android is always more inclined to using persistant storage for apps / media / whatever. Which is why nexus phones don't have micro sd slot. I wouldn't think Android will support this feature anytime in near future.
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This is a feature of Android M, that phones with a micro SD card, you can merge it with your internal storage, but the catch is the phone/tablet whatever device has Android M on it, it encrypts the card and makes it unusable on any other device. So although we gain an extra few gigs or whatever size card you have, you loose the ability to have it as portable storage without formatting it again.
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This is a feature of Android M, that phones with a micro SD card, you can merge it with your internal storage, but the catch is the phone/tablet whatever device has Android M on it, it encrypts the card and makes it unusable on any other device. So although we gain an extra few gigs or whatever size card you have, you loose the ability to have it as portable storage without formatting it again.
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Ok, was unaware of this. But, Such feature is only applicable to microsd cards.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...or-accessed-normally-with-no-additional-apps/
I think the OP asked about external USB storage which should be Pen Drive via OTG. Still, it cannot be used for apps.
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This is a feature of Android M, that phones with a micro SD card, you can merge it with your internal storage, but the catch is the phone/tablet whatever device has Android M on it, it encrypts the card and makes it unusable on any other device. So although we gain an extra few gigs or whatever size card you have, you loose the ability to have it as portable storage without formatting it again.
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Will this eventually be available for Shield TV?