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EDIT/UPDATE: File your complaint with the FCC over the bandwidth throttle;
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
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Using AT&T and a new SGS2. I've had a grandfathered "unlimited" plan for 10 years @ $30/mo.
"Unlimited" by definition means 'without limitations, unrestricted'. I was getting over 700KB/sec download before the throttle, now I barely get 15KB/sec, it's effectively crippled my phone and certainly made GPS unusable. Calls to AT&T are pointless, they have a different definition of 'unlimited' and are telling me the throttle won't be lifted until my next billing cycle in January.
Two questions;
Does anyone else find this absurd? "Unlimited" is a very specific, non-ambiguous term.
And has anyone found a way around this?
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of course its absurd but there's no way around it
I'm not a lawyer but this seems like class-action material. It's false advertising, at the very least.
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Just wondering, how much did you use per minutes of internet before hey started throttling you?
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There's a thread in the Vivid forum discussing this. People are being throttled after as little as 1 GB. Can't figure out what their use of measure is. Calendar month? 1 GB is unacceptable. I said over there top 5% is likely a lot lower than people probably think considering tons of people on grandfathered unlimited plans probably use hardly any of their data. Smartphones are no longer for the power user. My dad as an Android phone and he might have his email setup, but I'm sure that's all the data he uses.
edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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There's a thread in the Vivid forum discussing this. People are being throttled after as little as 1 GB. Can't figure out what their use of measure is. Calendar month? 1 GB is unacceptable. I said over there top 5% is likely a lot lower than people probably think considering tons of people on grandfathered unlimited plans probably use hardly any of their data. Smartphones are no longer for the power user. My dad as an Android phone and he might have his email setup, but I'm sure that's all the data he uses.
edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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Not throttled yet. 10GB last month and about 3gb this month so far
hyelton said:
Not throttled yet. 10GB last month and about 3gb this month so far
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That's the complaint there, can't figure out what's triggering the throttling.
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edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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That works only for LTE phones. They hit the Throttle on the LTE data, they can switch APNs to use HSPA+ data at full HSPA+ speeds. So they go from 30+ Mbps on LTE to like 0.25 Mbps, then switch to HSPA+ and get 6-8 Mbps.
In my area I get 2-3, at best on HSPA+. I use 6-8 GB on a normal month, as high at 10.5 one month. I have never been throttled.
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That works only for LTE phones. They hit the Throttle on the LTE data, they can switch APNs to use HSPA+ data at full HSPA+ speeds. So they go from 30+ Mbps on LTE to like 0.25 Mbps, then switch to HSPA+ and get 6-8 Mbps.
In my area I get 2-3, at best on HSPA+. I use 6-8 GB on a normal month, as high at 10.5 one month. I have never been throttled.
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I feel like I'm capped at 3 Mbps. No matter what it tops out at that. Kinda odd if I'm not capped.
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I feel like I'm capped at 3 Mbps. No matter what it tops out at that. Kinda odd if I'm not capped.
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3G and Faug G data speeds vary greatly by market. I think LTE is fairly consistent market to market, and in those markets the HSPA+ data is generally 8-11 Mbps.
Some people complain when they are throttled down to 100KB/s, something that's a good day for me.
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To answer those that asked, and yes, I admit this might seem ridiculous, but I did ~10.6GB in 14 days. Prior to that, I averaged 10-20GB a month with no hassles. With the new phone, the $0.10 Google market sale and a lot of experiementing, it was higher than expected with the new speeds. Still, "unlimited" is unlimited.
The notice I got came in the form a text, informing me that I should check their data plans (again, I have unlimited, why would I care?) and then a second notice that came in hours later - sometime around 4-5am that read:
"ATT Free Msg: Your data use is approaching the top 5% of users. Avoid reduced data speeds, use Wi-Fi where available. Visit att.com/dataplans or call 866-344-7584"
That's it. The warning came but I was already throttled and the "smart" part of my phone is effectively useless.
Read this story it explains how AT$T determines who should get throttled.
In a nut shell if you live in a area that has high data usage then the threshold is a lot higher then if you live in a area that has low data usage.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/AT-T-iPhone-data-throttle-4G-2G,news-13445.html
Dude 25GB is excessive!
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But the i777 doesn't have LTE.....right?
Can't we sue at t for throttling since we never signed up for throttled plan.. It suppose to be unlimited and they are not throttling other data plans
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It doesn't say anywhere in your agreement you are set to get certain speeds. It also says all over that att will do whatever they deem necessary if they feel your use can cause detrimental affects on other users.
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Made an update to my earlier post. My account on att.com reports that I did 10.6GB and was roughly half-way into my billing cycle.
Since their nerfbat hits entire neighborhoods (by design) it makes for some ridiculous scenarios. This **** was obviously derived by committee.
Question: Is it even possible to consume all of the data in your plan if you are restricted to 2G? No. It's not.
AT&T's plan caps can't even be consumed at 2G speeds, it would be fun to see a class-action against AT&T for failure to fulfill contract by deliberate act.
Scenario:
1) you use a bunch of data quickly to DL something in the beginning of the month.
2) AT&T flags you and demotes you to 2G for the remainder of the month.
3) At full 2G speed, you DL everything you can, but are only able to use up 2/3 of your paid data plan simply because it is not possible to use more than that with 2G in a month.
While you're stuck at 2G, your 3G-equipped neighbor is now in the top 5% and gets demoted to 2G, too.
Yes, I smell class-action.
Tried once more to get a rep on the phone, it's pointless. This is a direct quote:
"Sir, I realize you have an unlimited plan but we've placed a limitation on it."
AT$T use a different dictionary to define 'unlimited'. Even if they wanted to, nobody can remove the throttle until the billing cylcle ends. Bastards.
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Tried once more to get a rep on the phone, it's pointless. This is a direct quote:
"Sir, I realize you have an unlimited plan but we've placed a limitation on it."
AT$T use a different dictionary to define 'unlimited'. Even if they wanted to, nobody can remove the throttle until the billing cylcle ends. Bastards.
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Technically you are unlimited, they're not completely shutting down your data. You can still transfer all day long, just at a slow pace.
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Creative English at it's best. ATT: Oh we didn't mean unlimited we were saying "Hey, its uhh, limited. "
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I've been noticing for awhile now that my mobile data speed has been really crapping out, even worse than usual for where I live in the middle of nowhere. I've tried the .30 .36 & .37 radios with many APN configurations all ending up with about .3Mbps down and 1Mbps up. Now that sucks, but the area where I live is a primarily edge are so I let this go.
However, yesterday my family drove to the coast in Texas from central Texas and in every major city we went through and everywhere the phone said it was getting a solid H+ signal I did a speed test and to my surprise I got around the .3 down and 1 up every time I did. Now that we're here at the coast I have a solid H+ connection and I've tried switching radios and such to still get the same results and the only thing I can figure is that AT&T is throttling my UNLIMITED plan when I have barely hit 5 gigs in a month maybe once or twice in the 5 years I've had the plan.
Obviously if they are throttling me no one can really help me, but im posting here hoping someone out there knows another reason I might be getting such consistent crappy results, and maybe a way to fix it. I appreciate any help anyone has to offer.
Log into your account and look at how much data you've used this current billing period. If it isn't much, then you can probably rule out throttling.
Well my billing period restarts on the 16th so I'm only two days in and I can't have only have used much.
So the throttling resets each month? I just figured once throttled always, which is even more ridiculious but this is AT&T I'm talking about.
Did you even call them to ask? Maybe think there could be issues in the area like tower work/maintenance going on? Sounds like you are just throwing a tantrum when you haven't even bothered calling AT&T or checked your data usage. Maybe the extreme heat has cause problems! Who knows...........but spouting off here about being throttled with no evidence of throttling is kind of pointless and useless!
At&t sent me a text before they would start throttling! Told me over 2 gig is over the limit
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Did you even call them to ask? Maybe think there could be issues in the area like tower work/maintenance going on? Sounds like you are just throwing a tantrum when you haven't even bothered calling AT&T or checked your data usage. Maybe the extreme heat has cause problems! Who knows...........but spouting off here about being throttled with no evidence of throttling is kind of pointless and useless!
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Okay dude, chill. I am not throwing any kind of tantrum, but the only thing I can think of that would give me such consistent results as I drove across the state of TEXAS using multiple towers as I passed is throttling so excuse me if I assume. Now then if you read the whole title you'll see I asked at the end if maybe I messed something up. Accepting possible fault if someone were to come on here with some kind of positive helpful information indicating that maybe they had done something and is now having the same thing happen. And I fail to see how your rant is useful or has a point. I rarely call AT&T since I have had very poor customer service experience with them and usually good response with some kind of help on here, usually. And if you had read my other comment you would have seen that I stated usual data usage and that I'm only two days into this months billing cycle. Anything else you want to gripe about or did I cover everything?
As far as 2 gigs being the limit, I know there are many months, espically heavy development months since my phone is my only real source of internet access, I have pulled 3 or 4 gigs without receiving a throttling notice or noticing a hit on my data speeds. I'm not trying to call you out in that, I'm just giving my personal experience on the matter, but thanks for the input.
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Okay dude, chill. I am not throwing any kind of tantrum, but the only thing I can think of that would give me such consistent results as I drove across the state of TEXAS using multiple towers as I passed is throttling so excuse me if I assume. Now then if you read the whole title you'll see I asked at the end if maybe I messed something up. Accepting possible fault if someone were to come on here with some kind of positive helpful information indicating that maybe they had done something and is now having the same thing happen. And I fail to see how your rant is useful or has a point. I rarely call AT&T since I have had very poor customer service experience with them and usually good response with some kind of help on here, usually. And if you had read my other comment you would have seen that I stated usual data usage and that I'm only two days into this months billing cycle. Anything else you want to gripe about or did I cover everything?
As far as 2 gigs being the limit, I know there are many months, espically heavy development months since my phone is my only real source of internet access, I have pulled 3 or 4 gigs without receiving a throttling notice or noticing a hit on my data speeds. I'm not trying to call you out in that, I'm just giving my personal experience on the matter, but thanks for the input.
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"All unlimited-data-plan users who exceed 3GB of data in a single month will now experience reduced speeds on AT&T’s 3G network for the remainder of their billing cycles. 4G subscribers, meanwhile, can use up to 5GB of data in a billing period, after which data speeds will be throttled. AT&T notes that users on the unlimited plan can still use as much data as they like, just at compromised speeds."
"Mobile Services. Service performance may be affected by your proximity to a cell site, the capacity of the cell site, the number of other users connected to the same cell site, the surrounding terrain, use inside a building or a moving vehicle, radio frequency interference, the capabilities of your device, and the applications you use."
Also, you are in TX. I lived in the Houston area and Dallas. I have driven all over that state, so I know what it is like there. High humidity which parts of TX definitely has could be affecting your signal:
"The amount of water vapor suspended in the air is the aspect of the weather that can have the most significant effect on your phone signal. The high frequency radio signals used by cell towers travel best through air that is neither too dry or too damp. If the ambient humidity shifts too far in either direction, signal strength can suffer."
"According to cellphone resource site Cell Phone Advisor, the level of humidity can affect a device's ability to receive signals. Phone signals travel best when the air carries some moisture but is not humid. Extreme levels of humidity are caused by a large amount of moisture in the air and this can affect the radio waves that carry signals to and from your phone. Equally, very dry air with extremely low humidity can affect signals. However, this is usually not noticeable and too much moisture in the air is more likely to affect a signal than too little."
I did read your whole post. I just don't see anything there which shows you are being throttled, and you felt the need to emphasise the throttling by capitalising the word "unlimited". What are you using to measure your data speed with? What application? If it's an app like Speedtest.net are you sure you are setting the app to the closest location to where you are when measuring speed? Are you taking into account that the site you are testing through might be slow? I can run Speedtest through several different providers in the Boston area and get vastly different results because the test sites all have different bandwidths. Similarly, if you are driving across a state/s and you do not update to the closest location you could be speed testing from through the same provider location, but getting further away all the time, or at the very least getting the same results because you are using the same provider to test through.
*data# will answer your data use question.
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So with Verizon now having the share plans to eliminate the unlimited plans, thus squeezing more money out of us, I agree with the many on here that say they can have my unlimited when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. So with that being said, I used to be big on swapping roms with my Incredible, but never really messed with my Rezound other than upgrading to the Global RUU, unlocking and rooting it so I can tether wirelessly. Now that an LTE tower was recently put near my house, I can get 4g speeds. I want to cancel my broadband in the house save a bundle and just tether through my phone. I know with my Dinc, there were many Roms with data throttling removed or zip files out there to flash that could remove it. So my question is does VZW still throttle, and if they do, is there a data throttle removal for the Rezound out there?
They don't throttle 4g connections. At least that's what the rep told me. Theres no way to remove throttling from the phone. Vzw does it on there end according to congestion on the tower your connected to using your esn. And as soon as the tower is not so congested you get bandwidth back. But the rep told me if you have a 4g phone you don't get throttled, even if your only connected to 3g. That's coming from a rep over the phone, so take it for what its worth.
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Texas is right.
VZW doesn't throttle 4g, and you have to be one of the top 10% of heavy users.
Also, throttling is done on their end, nothing to do with the phone.
Yeah I only get throttled in the day when I'm downloading massive files. I have downloaded 15gb torrents at night before and Verizon doesn't throttle me.
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I would like to know why Verizon throttles 3G but not 4G. I know I use a heck of a lot more data when I finally got 4G in my area and being unlimited you think they would want to stop me at some point being I can not go over a number for them to add additional charges to me.
Jimi Mack said:
I would like to know why Verizon throttles 3G but not 4G. I know I use a heck of a lot more data when I finally got 4G in my area and being unlimited you think they would want to stop me at some point being I can not go over a number for them to add additional charges to me.
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It's related to the terms of their FCC license. There's lots of restrictions placed on their ability to restrict use of the 700MHz band they use for LTE because of the terms of their license. They also can't restrict tethering on LTE, though they can still do so on 3G.
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One of the apps that's rumored to be related is an app called TetheringGuard.apk and its in system app I believe.
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Is it possible to hide your data usage from T-mobile so they can not track where usage is in relation to the cap?
Are there any workarounds to no be throttled by T-mobile?
I have read this is all on t-mobile's side, device usage is identified by the IMEI and phone number. If there was a way to obstruct that data (identifying information) being sent to T-mobile, maybe that would avoid throttle.
Any other ideas? Is there a forum already started for this topic?
You want people to help you steal service?
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Some thoughts/links on the subject
"You might be able to encrypt or VPN to attempt to hide what your payload is but no you cannot hide that you have data going through your provider" ~ http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...any-way-hide-data-usage-service-provider.html
Services.jar hack - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057344
DTR- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1435085
4G Hack- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1645521
MythBusting- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987029
APN Trick- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1408812
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McDeadagain said:
You want people to help you steal service?
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I don't want people to help me steal service, I already have unlimited service. I am looking to avoid data cap/throttle.
If you can't/won't help, don't reply.
Avoid throttle = steal service
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That's your opinion, troll.
Just don't reply if you don't know/can't help.
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Avoid throttle = steal service
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I agree with McDeadagain
How is he being a troll when he is correct in his response.
When a wireless carrier charges you for certain amount of data and throttles you after that, and your trying to avoid the throttling by hiding how much data your using, your essentially stealing service. Thats how i see it..
Lets use a different analogy.
Your in your car on a highway with a speed limit of 60. Your doing 90. Is it illegal? Cop didnt catch you so i guess its right? WRONG.. its illegal.. You just didnt get a ticket for performing the illegal act.
Heres a better answer. Move to a different plan that doesnt throttle after so much data usage. Pay more for the premium service. After all your expecting a premium unlimited amount of unthrottled data so pay for it..
It is far more likely that the OP wants to use the mobile hotspot with unlimited high speed. TMO doesn't sell tethering with unlimited High Speed access. I believe one can purchase an additional 15 Gb with the unlimited high speed, but that is all. The other plans include tethering, but of course they are limited in their high speed data (I personally have 2GB).
Or else he wants unlimited high speed while paying for only 500mb or 2 gb.
if what you want is to have unlimited hotspot without further charges there are a copule of threads on xda that can help, but if its just plain cell 4g data consumption you wanna hide then no you cannot, there maybe ways to preserve data but then ur stuck with slow speeds so its not cenvenient.
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I have read this is all on t-mobile's side, device usage is identified by the IMEI and phone number. If there was a way to obstruct that data (identifying information) being sent to T-mobile, maybe that would avoid throttle.
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T-Mobile doesn't monitor your usage by IMEI which is just the hardware serial number. If they did you could just move your sim. They monitor it by your IMSI which is your account id. While some APN's and some network nodes are found from time to time that don't have throttling enabled, when they are found they are corrected. Just buy the unlimited plan, its not like T-Mobile charges a ton for it.
If you are asking for the tethering, then that's a whole different discussion which actually can be fruitful.
Yeah you can't hide data usage but if your like me, I have the unlimited data unthrottled plan that doesn't include tether. Yet through a hack I tether 10GB-20GB per month unthrottled.
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fmedrano1977 said:
Yeah you can't hide data usage but if your like me, I have the unlimited data unthrottled plan that doesn't include tether. Yet through a hack I tether 10GB-20GB per month unthrottled.
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Which hack do you use? Maybe that can help the OP.
YOU CAN'T EVER HIDE YOUR USAGE FROM YOUR PROVIDER.
Regardless of VPN or any other jazz you use to attempt this, they will always have the upper hand on you. Think about it like this: your a small town in a city which only access to the rest of the world is via one street and one highway, that street and highway is provided to you by T-Mobile.
Enough said.
If you want to traffic more, pay more, otherwise stay within your boundaries.
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YOU CAN'T EVER HIDE YOUR USAGE FROM YOUR PROVIDER.
Regardless of VPN or any other jazz you use to attempt this, they will always have the upper hand on you. Think about it like this: your a small town in a city which only access to the rest of the world is via one street and one highway, that street and highway is provided to you by T-Mobile.
Enough said.
If you want to traffic more, pay more, otherwise stay within your boundaries.
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well then indeed going by your terms one must simply trick or blind tmobile not avoid them such as in your words "use there highway but only at nite when they cant see you" lol
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Which hack do you use? Maybe that can help the OP.
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For starters he needs knowledge on decompiling and recompiling APKs. You must edit the APN.xml located in the framework-res.apk, deleting the hidden tether APN and removing the read only state from T-Mobile APNs.
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For starters he needs knowledge on decompiling and recompiling APKs. You must edit the APN.xml located in the framework-res.apk, deleting the hidden tether APN and removing the read only state from T-Mobile APNs.
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Hi, which values specifically do we need to remove on apns.xml file? There are bunch of hidden tether APN lines with different values. Remove all? Also, after those steps, do we need to do something else?
Thanks!
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Hi, which values specifically do we need to remove on apns.xml file? There are bunch of hidden tether APN lines with different values. Remove all? Also, after those steps, do we need to do something else?
Thanks!
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You can either remove the segment that indicates hidden or the entire line. I couldn't remember which line applied to me so I removed all the hidden segments (with find and replace). And I replaced all the 'webpc' (or whatever it is) with 'fast' for the address. Because I only removed the hidden segment I still have a tethering apn but it's visible and editable.
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Data Throttle=Bad Business
McDeadagain said:
Avoid throttle = steal service
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Avoid Throttle = Getting the unlimited service that I paid for
I am finding my 4g service throttled down to 2kbs I can not even use Google Navigation with that. I was told that my throttle would never go below 3g speeds as long as 3g is available and it is. I had a 3g phone with the same company for 6 years before upgrading and my speeds were always 1.1 to 1.5Mbs. I would be very happy with that. I am only trying to get what I was promised and what I pay for.
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Avoid Throttle = Getting the unlimited service that I paid for
I am finding my 4g service throttled down to 2kbs I can not even use Google Navigation with that. I was told that my throttle would never go below 3g speeds as long as 3g is available and it is. I had a 3g phone with the same company for 6 years before upgrading and my speeds were always 1.1 to 1.5Mbs. I would be very happy with that. I am only trying to get what I was promised and what I pay for.
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I pay for unlimited 4G LTE service, but I was told after multiple customer service calls that I'm being throttled due to my high data usage. I would find a hack to avoid said throttling quite morally correct, in my case.
@metropcsflash - What @PunishedSnake is trying to alert you to is that Throttling is at 2G speeds. NOT 3G. You were either misinformed by the TMO rep, or you heard what you wanted to hear. Either way if you do a small bit of research you will see that TMO does not give you 3G speeds throttled. Lets also loose the term 2G and 3G. When it comes to TMO that is a bit of a gray area. Since they called HSDPA+ 4G when it was really 3.5G and truly 4G is LTE.
In this case 2G is GPRS/EDGE speeds and 3G would be HSDPA/+.
So with that said, you will not get 1 meg or close to it being throttled. SO if you are expecting that you should move to a different carrier or go back and confront the sales person who you said told you that.
So to re-coupe, you have 3 options.
1 is to upgrade the rate plan to one that has no throttling after a certain amount of data is used.
2 understand that you will not get 3g / 1 meg of DL speed with your current plan because TMO doesnt offer it. The rep misinformed you or you heard wrong.
3 move on to a carrier that fits your financial needs and data needs.
Been looking into this for awhile now. Today, I've just rooted my Huawei Ascend Mate 2 (on 4.3) and I'm absolutely giddy over having a rooted android
Two things I've been finding come up is to change the APN settings (been playing with those, doesn't seem to help ) and to go into data/system/throttle and delete the two files you find there after backing them up to your pc. Problem is, while this folder seems to pop up for a lot of people, there doesn't appear to be a throttle folder in my phone. This may be because, even though it was sold through Net10 and uses Net10 service, it's originally technically an AT&T phone. To my understanding (and I may be a total noob here), the big carrier companies like AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc, throttle you when they see you're using too much on their towers. But that prepaid carriers piggyback on the big carriers, so rather than being able to monitor you (because they can't watch the towers, it's not their towers) they install these triggers in their devices to automatically activate when you exceed a certain data threshold (in my case, 3GBs). Is my understanding incorrect here? Just trying to learn from what I read on forums.
Anyone here who can help me figure out how to bypass the throttle, or at least make it a bit faster than 16kbps when being throttled? I understand getting slowed down, I'm not gonna sit here like "Lol but it says unlimited lol" because I actually read the fine print. But 16kbps is unbelievably slow (on full bars/strong dbm signal. Weak signal areas give me about 2kbps while on throttle). Hell, I'd be good with 50-100kbps.......
If you need more info to help me out, just ask! I'd appreciate anyone who has any ideas on how to either bypass or speed up (even slightly).
No flaming or 'smartassery', please, not everyone knows what may be obvious to you.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but typically throttling takes place on the network not the native side it would be too hard to manage however that being said Mac address tracking does seem to take place quite a bit that's mainly for marketing purposes. In the past throttling was controlled by a proxy server. Take out the proxy and you remove throttling. I am sure I don't know the infinite number of ways to limit or governor each data connection but as for now I am using a cc variant that I manually built to factory unlocked spec and no proxy or throttling my only limitation seems to be how far away from the tower I am and the limitations of the hardware itself which I can't complain at times I can peg the meter on a speed test.
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Been looking into this for awhile now. Today, I've just rooted my Huawei Ascend Mate 2 (on 4.3) and I'm absolutely giddy over having a rooted android
Two things I've been finding come up is to change the APN settings (been playing with those, doesn't seem to help ) and to go into data/system/throttle and delete the two files you find there after backing them up to your pc. Problem is, while this folder seems to pop up for a lot of people, there doesn't appear to be a throttle folder in my phone. This may be because, even though it was sold through Net10 and uses Net10 service, it's originally technically an AT&T phone. To my understanding (and I may be a total noob here), the big carrier companies like AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc, throttle you when they see you're using too much on their towers. But that prepaid carriers piggyback on the big carriers, so rather than being able to monitor you (because they can't watch the towers, it's not their towers) they install these triggers in their devices to automatically activate when you exceed a certain data threshold (in my case, 3GBs). Is my understanding incorrect here? Just trying to learn from what I read on forums.
Anyone here who can help me figure out how to bypass the throttle, or at least make it a bit faster than 16kbps when being throttled? I understand getting slowed down, I'm not gonna sit here like "Lol but it says unlimited lol" because I actually read the fine print. But 16kbps is unbelievably slow (on full bars/strong dbm signal. Weak signal areas give me about 2kbps while on throttle). Hell, I'd be good with 50-100kbps.......
If you need more info to help me out, just ask! I'd appreciate anyone who has any ideas on how to either bypass or speed up (even slightly).
No flaming or 'smartassery', please, not everyone knows what may be obvious to you.
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They do not use files on the phone to throttle you. That is done at the providers end.
There is NO possible way to bypass throttling.
I'm with metro pcs $60 plan and I feel I'm being throttle. When I first got their service I was getting real good download speeds, now I could barely load a webpage. Would calling them and complain fix it? Lol
I get better speeds when I set the phone to WCDMA only its just really strange
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Moody66 said:
They do not use files on the phone to throttle you. That is done at the providers end.
There is NO possible way to bypass throttling.
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Then why does the throttle folder with files exist on *some* prepaid devices (as i stated, while this is using a prepaid service it technically is not a prepaid phone)? It obviously is there for a reason. Too many people have reported success with increased data speed by removal of these files to not be true.... Also saw a posting about getting much deeper into the phone, doing stuff to dex and jar files, ive been meaning to find that posting again.
pucherto123 said:
I'm with metro pcs $60 plan and I feel I'm being throttle. When I first got their service I was getting real good download speeds, now I could barely load a webpage. Would calling them and complain fix it? Lol
I get better speeds when I set the phone to WCDMA only its just really strange
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Idk, maybe? Youd probably get better feedback if you posted this as an independent question rather than here.
Thats interesting about the WCDMA thing though. Ive heard before that that can help but havent tried it... most stuff i havent tried because im afraid of doing something wrong and screwing up the radio, haha
Some have had their speed reinacted through straight talk by calling and apologizing and complaining and asking to speak to the manager, basically any means possible you have of trying to extract precious high speed from them. But, who knows how long it would last for if you were able to succeed.
SonyXperiaz1s said:
Then why does the throttle folder with files exist on *some* prepaid devices (as i stated, while this is using a prepaid service it technically is not a prepaid phone)? It obviously is there for a reason. Too many people have reported success with increased data speed by removal of these files to not be true.... Also saw a posting about getting much deeper into the phone, doing stuff to dex and jar files, ive been meaning to find that posting again.
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Old technology. It was replaced with Sims. Long ago. If it were that simple people would just put there Sim into a different phone and have full access again. This can NOT be done.
pucherto123 said:
I'm with metro pcs $60 plan and I feel I'm being throttle. When I first got their service I was getting real good download speeds, now I could barely load a webpage. Would calling them and complain fix it? Lol
I get better speeds when I set the phone to WCDMA only its just really strange
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I also use MetroPCS, but I have not seen any throttling. I would def call them. I have found their cust service to be pretty good. I normally get 50-75mb down speeds here in New York and I use 15-20 gb's a month. There are areas where the speed will be slower, but it is still 15mb or higher in those areas. The $60 plan does not have any throttling.
Moody66 said:
Old technology. It was replaced with Sims. Long ago. If it were that simple people would just put there Sim into a different phone and have full access again. This can NOT be done.
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Ahhh. So that applies to CDMA phones, but not GSM phones, if im understanding correctly?
arampapaz said:
I also use MetroPCS, but I have not seen any throttling. I would def call them. I have found their cust service to be pretty good. I normally get 50-75mb down speeds here in New York and I use 15-20 gb's a month. There are areas where the speed will be slower, but it is still 15mb or higher in those areas. The $60 plan does not have any throttling.
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Man, wish I could get MetroPCS where I live.... Im stuck with AT&T or any prepaid plans that piggyback off AT&T. Super jealous right now, I can only use 3GBs until data speeds become unbearable, haha
SonyXperiaz1s said:
Man, wish I could get MetroPCS where I live.... Im stuck with AT&T or any prepaid plans that piggyback off AT&T. Super jealous right now, I can only use 3GBs until data speeds become unbearable, haha
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Yeah, I used to have AT&T, then Straight Talk. I switched to MetroPCS because I kept getting throttled after my 3gb's were up. The throttled speeds are useless. Now I don't have to worry about data at all. I wasn't sure the service would be too great, but I have not had any issues so far. But that's the great thing about buying unlocked phones, we are free to use whoever we want.
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Ahhh. So that applies to CDMA phones, but not GSM phones, if im understanding correctly?
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CDMA phones use Sims as well.
You're going to want to use T-Mobile to get the best speeds. If you have a healthy MT2-L03 and using fast.t-mobile.com as your APN I'm never throttled unlimited top tier LTE. You won't get the same speeds with any other carrier.
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You're going to want to use T-Mobile to get the best speeds. If you have a healthy MT2-L03 and using fast.t-mobile.com as your APN I'm never throttled unlimited top tier LTE. You won't get the same speeds with any other carrier.
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They are good for data. But coverage is very limited still.
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I pay $55 a month from Cricket. That gets you 10gb of LTE. Throttled at 8mb a second. thats more then enough to do anything. I've had this phone since release and use mobile hotspot all the time for my laptop and tablet on the road.
superbass311 said:
I pay $55 a month from Cricket. That gets you 10gb of LTE. Throttled at 8mb a second. thats more then enough to do anything. I've had this phone since release and use mobile hotspot all the time for my laptop and tablet on the road.
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So after being throttle you get 8mbps of download on 3g? What's your speed like before being throttle?
What are you talking about that is before throttle. what providers promise and what the towers actually deliver is 2 different. things. 8mbps is LTE. my brother has a Note 4 on Verizion and on a speed test with 3 bars of LTE he only gets around 10mbps if he's lucky. he is not being throttled. he pays about $160 a month compared to my $55 from cricket. there is nothing on my HAM2 that I cant do with 8mbps. name something....
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