Is it possible to hide your data usage from T-mobile so they can not track where usage is in relation to the cap?
Are there any workarounds to no be throttled by T-mobile?
I have read this is all on t-mobile's side, device usage is identified by the IMEI and phone number. If there was a way to obstruct that data (identifying information) being sent to T-mobile, maybe that would avoid throttle.
Any other ideas? Is there a forum already started for this topic?
You want people to help you steal service?
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Some thoughts/links on the subject
"You might be able to encrypt or VPN to attempt to hide what your payload is but no you cannot hide that you have data going through your provider" ~ http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...any-way-hide-data-usage-service-provider.html
Services.jar hack - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057344
DTR- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1435085
4G Hack- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1645521
MythBusting- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987029
APN Trick- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1408812
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McDeadagain said:
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I don't want people to help me steal service, I already have unlimited service. I am looking to avoid data cap/throttle.
If you can't/won't help, don't reply.
Avoid throttle = steal service
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That's your opinion, troll.
Just don't reply if you don't know/can't help.
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Avoid throttle = steal service
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I agree with McDeadagain
How is he being a troll when he is correct in his response.
When a wireless carrier charges you for certain amount of data and throttles you after that, and your trying to avoid the throttling by hiding how much data your using, your essentially stealing service. Thats how i see it..
Lets use a different analogy.
Your in your car on a highway with a speed limit of 60. Your doing 90. Is it illegal? Cop didnt catch you so i guess its right? WRONG.. its illegal.. You just didnt get a ticket for performing the illegal act.
Heres a better answer. Move to a different plan that doesnt throttle after so much data usage. Pay more for the premium service. After all your expecting a premium unlimited amount of unthrottled data so pay for it..
It is far more likely that the OP wants to use the mobile hotspot with unlimited high speed. TMO doesn't sell tethering with unlimited High Speed access. I believe one can purchase an additional 15 Gb with the unlimited high speed, but that is all. The other plans include tethering, but of course they are limited in their high speed data (I personally have 2GB).
Or else he wants unlimited high speed while paying for only 500mb or 2 gb.
if what you want is to have unlimited hotspot without further charges there are a copule of threads on xda that can help, but if its just plain cell 4g data consumption you wanna hide then no you cannot, there maybe ways to preserve data but then ur stuck with slow speeds so its not cenvenient.
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I have read this is all on t-mobile's side, device usage is identified by the IMEI and phone number. If there was a way to obstruct that data (identifying information) being sent to T-mobile, maybe that would avoid throttle.
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T-Mobile doesn't monitor your usage by IMEI which is just the hardware serial number. If they did you could just move your sim. They monitor it by your IMSI which is your account id. While some APN's and some network nodes are found from time to time that don't have throttling enabled, when they are found they are corrected. Just buy the unlimited plan, its not like T-Mobile charges a ton for it.
If you are asking for the tethering, then that's a whole different discussion which actually can be fruitful.
Yeah you can't hide data usage but if your like me, I have the unlimited data unthrottled plan that doesn't include tether. Yet through a hack I tether 10GB-20GB per month unthrottled.
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fmedrano1977 said:
Yeah you can't hide data usage but if your like me, I have the unlimited data unthrottled plan that doesn't include tether. Yet through a hack I tether 10GB-20GB per month unthrottled.
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Which hack do you use? Maybe that can help the OP.
YOU CAN'T EVER HIDE YOUR USAGE FROM YOUR PROVIDER.
Regardless of VPN or any other jazz you use to attempt this, they will always have the upper hand on you. Think about it like this: your a small town in a city which only access to the rest of the world is via one street and one highway, that street and highway is provided to you by T-Mobile.
Enough said.
If you want to traffic more, pay more, otherwise stay within your boundaries.
megabiteg said:
YOU CAN'T EVER HIDE YOUR USAGE FROM YOUR PROVIDER.
Regardless of VPN or any other jazz you use to attempt this, they will always have the upper hand on you. Think about it like this: your a small town in a city which only access to the rest of the world is via one street and one highway, that street and highway is provided to you by T-Mobile.
Enough said.
If you want to traffic more, pay more, otherwise stay within your boundaries.
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well then indeed going by your terms one must simply trick or blind tmobile not avoid them such as in your words "use there highway but only at nite when they cant see you" lol
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Which hack do you use? Maybe that can help the OP.
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For starters he needs knowledge on decompiling and recompiling APKs. You must edit the APN.xml located in the framework-res.apk, deleting the hidden tether APN and removing the read only state from T-Mobile APNs.
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fmedrano1977 said:
For starters he needs knowledge on decompiling and recompiling APKs. You must edit the APN.xml located in the framework-res.apk, deleting the hidden tether APN and removing the read only state from T-Mobile APNs.
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Hi, which values specifically do we need to remove on apns.xml file? There are bunch of hidden tether APN lines with different values. Remove all? Also, after those steps, do we need to do something else?
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Trahald said:
Hi, which values specifically do we need to remove on apns.xml file? There are bunch of hidden tether APN lines with different values. Remove all? Also, after those steps, do we need to do something else?
Thanks!
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You can either remove the segment that indicates hidden or the entire line. I couldn't remember which line applied to me so I removed all the hidden segments (with find and replace). And I replaced all the 'webpc' (or whatever it is) with 'fast' for the address. Because I only removed the hidden segment I still have a tethering apn but it's visible and editable.
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Data Throttle=Bad Business
McDeadagain said:
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Avoid Throttle = Getting the unlimited service that I paid for
I am finding my 4g service throttled down to 2kbs I can not even use Google Navigation with that. I was told that my throttle would never go below 3g speeds as long as 3g is available and it is. I had a 3g phone with the same company for 6 years before upgrading and my speeds were always 1.1 to 1.5Mbs. I would be very happy with that. I am only trying to get what I was promised and what I pay for.
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Avoid Throttle = Getting the unlimited service that I paid for
I am finding my 4g service throttled down to 2kbs I can not even use Google Navigation with that. I was told that my throttle would never go below 3g speeds as long as 3g is available and it is. I had a 3g phone with the same company for 6 years before upgrading and my speeds were always 1.1 to 1.5Mbs. I would be very happy with that. I am only trying to get what I was promised and what I pay for.
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I pay for unlimited 4G LTE service, but I was told after multiple customer service calls that I'm being throttled due to my high data usage. I would find a hack to avoid said throttling quite morally correct, in my case.
@metropcsflash - What @PunishedSnake is trying to alert you to is that Throttling is at 2G speeds. NOT 3G. You were either misinformed by the TMO rep, or you heard what you wanted to hear. Either way if you do a small bit of research you will see that TMO does not give you 3G speeds throttled. Lets also loose the term 2G and 3G. When it comes to TMO that is a bit of a gray area. Since they called HSDPA+ 4G when it was really 3.5G and truly 4G is LTE.
In this case 2G is GPRS/EDGE speeds and 3G would be HSDPA/+.
So with that said, you will not get 1 meg or close to it being throttled. SO if you are expecting that you should move to a different carrier or go back and confront the sales person who you said told you that.
So to re-coupe, you have 3 options.
1 is to upgrade the rate plan to one that has no throttling after a certain amount of data is used.
2 understand that you will not get 3g / 1 meg of DL speed with your current plan because TMO doesnt offer it. The rep misinformed you or you heard wrong.
3 move on to a carrier that fits your financial needs and data needs.
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I don't know if anyone's seen this yet, but for all the US users currently on AT&T, they'll begin to offer a $50 prepaid unlimited plan on June 26th. It'll include unlimited minutes, data, and text (including international text).
I just wanted to get a discussion going to see if this will work with the Galaxy S II. It's marketed for GoPhone's (not sure what that means), and smartphone data will be extra, though a lot of us have already been successfully using the non-smartphone postpaid data plan on AT&T.
A link to Engadget, which also includes the AT&T press release:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/21/atandt-to-offer-50-unlimited-prepaid-plan-ready-to-gophone-jun
There is no unlmited data
Its priced from $5 for 10mb to $25 for 500
dumb/feature phone web access is included with the $50 plan according to the release. SGS2 is a dumb phone in the eyes of AT&T village idiots.
arvin1 said:
There is no unlmited data
Its priced from $5 for 10mb to $25 for 500
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Perhaps there's a lack of clarity in the press release, but it seems as if unlimited data is also included (albeit not for smartphones, for which the $5 to $25 charge is applied).
However, it seems that "unlimited web" is included for "quick messaging phones."
Many of us have been successfully using cheaper non-smartphone unlimited data plans for our Galaxy S II's, since the IMEI is not registered in AT&T's system. Essentially, we've been able to access the dumbphone plans.
Just wondering if that might also be the case here with the new prepaid plan.
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dumb/feature phone web access is included with the $50 plan according to the release. SGS2 is a dumb phone in the eyes of AT&T village idiots.
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If this is a go for SGS2 users, would there be any possible negatives with switching over if we're not yet on contract with AT&T?
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If this is a go for SGS2 users, would there be any possible negatives with switching over if we're not yet on contract with AT&T?
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I would not know, this plan is not out yet I suggest you wait for first user reports.
IF this plan's feature phone unlimited web works the same way their normal 2- year commitment feature phone unlimited wen works, then the only downside I see is you won't be able to switch to "fake 4G" in the small number of cities that show differences in speed between "fake 4g" and "usually 3g but with access to 4g". There is a big thread about this in the QA section, just search for "APN WAP.CINGULAR"
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I would not know, this plan is not out yet I suggest you wait for first user reports.
IF this plan's feature phone unlimited web works the same way their normal 2- year commitment feature phone unlimited wen works, then the only downside I see is you won't be able to switch to "fake 4G" in the small number of cities that show differences in speed between "fake 4g" and "usually 3g but with access to 4g". There is a big thread about this in the QA section, just search for "APN WAP.CINGULAR"
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If I remember correctly, the only way to access the "fake 4g" (HSPA+ with full network backhaul) is to be on a smartphone plan and to have them register your phone as one of their "4g" phones? I'm on the unlimited non-smartphone plan already, so there probably wouldn't be a difference?
Anyway, I'll recheck that thread to see if I'm mistaken... or if there have been some new developments.
If anyone checks if this works, please post. I am interested.
kreoXDA said:
I would not know, this plan is not out yet I suggest you wait for first user reports.
IF this plan's feature phone unlimited web works the same way their normal 2- year commitment feature phone unlimited wen works, then the only downside I see is you won't be able to switch to "fake 4G" in the small number of cities that show differences in speed between "fake 4g" and "usually 3g but with access to 4g". There is a big thread about this in the QA section, just search for "APN WAP.CINGULAR"
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Can you post link I can't find the thread?
For those who are already on the att non smartphone unlimited data plan, are you getting hspa+ speeds and also able to do everything like browse, email, stream audio etc on your sg2? Thanks
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If I remember correctly, the only way to access the "fake 4g" (HSPA+ with full network backhaul) is to be on a smartphone plan and to have them register your phone as one of their "4g" phones? I'm on the unlimited non-smartphone plan already, so there probably wouldn't be a difference?
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According to some, the smartphone plan for "4G" phones would give you uncapped "fake 4G" speed. The feature-phone unlimited 3G does give you "fake 4G" speeds and HSPA+ access but the speed is supposedly capped. I believe it all depends on WHERE you use the phone. Where I am, I was getting same HSPA+ speeds on my old 3G smartphone plan and on the current feature phone plan: max 6 Mbps down, 2 up, on a very good day, on 99% of other days I get about 3 down and 0.5 up. Since I can clearly see that I can't really achieve the max speeds the "speed-capped" plan allows, it made no sense to me to switch to the "fake 4G" service for 4G-labeled phones.
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Can you post link I can't find the thread?
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I think it is this thread, based on my bad memory.
vince2398 said:
For those who are already on the att non smartphone unlimited data plan, are you getting hspa+ speeds and also able to do everything like browse, email, stream audio etc on your sg2? Thanks
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confirming, as I described above, I get the H+ icon on the phone and good speeds, here in New York City. I do suffer from hanging signal problems though (some people attribute it to "fast dormancy" setting, changing which does not help me personally)
I'm on the non-smartphone data plan and getting HSPA+ in my area.
In the several areas I've run speed tests (California Bay Area, Southern California, Denver), I've averaged about 3mbps up and 1mbps down. I've hit up to 5-6mbps down.
Of course, more speed is always a good thing, but these speeds are entirely satisfactory to me.
I'd definitely be interested in seeing if the prepaid plan offers the same data service.
Also, I'm assuming the $50 a month is an out the door flat rate that includes all taxes and fees?
Did you guys see the new Verizon tiered plans yet?
(image from Androidcentral.com)
They are capping the feature phone $10 web plan at 75 MB !!!
I am sure AT&T will follow pretty soon, the days of unlimited dumb phone web are counted, seriously.
kreoXDA said:
Did you guys see the new Verizon tiered plans yet?
(image from Androidcentral.com)
They are capping the feature phone $10 web plan at 75 MB !!!
I am sure AT&T will follow pretty soon, the days of unlimited dumb phone web are counted, seriously.
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I'm wondering if prepaid might be the way to go then, since the market seems more competitive and unlimited data is one of the key selling points.
Bump look at post 40 here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-Text-amp-Web-Plan-Now-Available-for-50/page3
Seems you can use a non-ATT phone on the prepaid plan. Anyone else confirm?
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Bump look at post 40 here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-Text-amp-Web-Plan-Now-Available-for-50/page3
Seems you can use a non-ATT phone on the prepaid plan. Anyone else confirm?
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If the prepaid plan phones uses sim cards you will be able to use any phone that accepts a sim card.
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If the prepaid plan phones uses sim cards you will be able to use any phone that accepts a sim card.
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ATT might get tricky and only allow IMEIs of their own featurephones only or use locked SIMs.
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ATT might get tricky and only allow IMEIs of their own featurephones only or use locked SIMs.
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LOL Why would they do that now? You would probably activate your dumpphone on prepaid account and then just switch sim cards.
Did anyone end up getting the $50 featurephone plan? Did you swap a smartphone onto it? Most importantly, I would like to know what kind of data speeds are you getting on the prepaid featurephone plan?
I read reports that ATT caps prepaid featurephone data to 0.2 Mbps or lower (EDGE speeds). Can anyone post a speed test using this plan?
is there a way to unthrottle or dethrottle the thunderbolt? ive noticed my data has been slowed down and im guessing verizons throttling my data
I've also noticed a DRASTIC slow down in my data speeds. Don't know about throttling but I will try different radios to see if that will fix it.
Edit: Changing radios doesn't work
correct me if im wrong but cant they not throttle speeds based on pure bandwidth use alone? i read this article about them locking bootloaders:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...-does-not-violate-fcc-block-c-spectrum-rules/
and a particular section says this,
"(c)(1)... The potential for excessive bandwidth demand alone shall not constitute grounds for denying, limiting or restricting access to the network. 47 CFR §27.16"
so im guessing by per FCC agreement, verizon is not allowed to throttle us regardless of whether or not we have unlimited data plans or not. but i guess a loophole might be that if youre tethering, they might be...
im not posting this to really bash you, im just saying because i have the unlimited plan and have gone way over 2gigs of data usage without any signs of throttling. But then again, i never found the need to tether anything.
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correct me if im wrong but cant they not throttle speeds based on pure bandwidth use alone? i read this article about them locking bootloaders:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...-does-not-violate-fcc-block-c-spectrum-rules/
and a particular section says this,
"(c)(1)... The potential for excessive bandwidth demand alone shall not constitute grounds for denying, limiting or restricting access to the network. 47 CFR §27.16"
so im guessing by per FCC agreement, verizon is not allowed to throttle us regardless of whether or not we have unlimited data plans or not. but i guess a loophole might be that if youre tethering, they might be...
im not posting this to really bash you, im just saying because i have the unlimited plan and have gone way over 2gigs of data usage without any signs of throttling. But then again, i never found the need to tether anything.
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Its my understanding that somehow those lines you quoted from the FCC don't pertain to us (not sure how as they sound like they would). If VZW is throttling you, its on their end, meaning you can't just click a setting and change that. They said they throttle the top 5% users through the next billing cycle, so if its you, it should speed up in a few weeks. I still haven't heard of them actually throttling yet though, so might just be a slow network, or a problem in their network in your area. Good luck.
How are you measuring your speeds ?
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From what I've seen of verizon's 4g network, it's very unpredictable. Granted they just activated towers here to cover my whole city just a few weeks ago, but i see data speeds ranging from as low as 1.5mb up to 20mb with absolutely no consistancy. Seems completely random how my speeds end up.
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i dont know but i have used 138gb this month and haven't seen any slow down!
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Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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not possible. plus that's fraud.
Ik its fraud but wouldnt be fraud from them to lower my speeeds cause i sign a contract for unlimited meaning all i want to use if they drop it to E is like not having internet is useless..... And thank you anyways
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
Want to hide your data usage from AT&T? Use wifi.
There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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There is a way to hide the data u tether thats why i wondered if there was an app for hiding the actual amount that we use....... I guess not thank u all for ur time and explanations
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You can't hide ANY data while using their network. All you can do is hide the fact that you ARE tethering, not that you're using extra data all of a sudden.
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Its data on there network, how do u propose to hide it? Also u are unlimited, just throttled. They arnt limiting the amount of data. Common Sense?
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Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
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Just to play devils advocate here:
By throttling they technically are limiting the amount of data. If you can only download at .3Mbps that means you are only able to download ~97GB in a 30 day period. Say you get throttled for the last week of your billing cycle that means you can only download 22GB that week. This is opposed to the ~260GB you could download on HSPA, the ~590GB you could download in a week at HSPA+ speeds, and the ~2.2TB you could download in a week at LTE speeds.
Yes this does prove there is no such thing as an unlimited plan, but it does prove that they are limiting the amount of data you can download in a given period of time.
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That's a good point. I'm sure that would work if someone wanted to take AT&T to small claims court. But then again as long as I've had "unlimited" through them, there was always a 5GB cap that was spelled out in the fine print of my contract. The only exception to that was for iPhone users. That's the only reason I switched to an iPhone a couple years back.
What contract? There is no contract for data, only for voice. There are Terms of Service but no contract.
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Is there any app that hides my usage from att? Even though iam not tethering i would like to hide my usage they send me a letter saying iam one of top 5% that uses data heavily and that they would lower my speeds if i keep using my "unlimited" plan
So stupid ill sue them if they do
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Take them to small claims court. They've already lost once before recently for throttling. http://consumerist.com/2012/03/att-writes-check-to-victor-in-small-claims-court-suit.html
I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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Switch to Sprint.
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down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
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down to .60 mbps? thats not bad.. I'm on Sprint and 3g usually averages .50 mbps..
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That's because sprint and Verizon's 3g blows. 3g on ATT is faster than Wimax 4g for sprint in most areas.
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I just exceeded the 5G limit and they lowered my speeds down to 0.60mbps or lower at some points.... they said my speedz will be back when my next billing cycle starts
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that really sucks that they're limiting you, I assume you're in a busy area and that's going to be expected. Like one of the other posters suggested, try using WiFi. If I recall you can cruise to any place that has AT&T wifi and get it free (like starbucks and McDonalds and sams club) and do your major downloading there. I know that isn't on the go, but if you want a coffee, it isn't the worst suggestion.
I have had the same question for awhile now. I am using Simple mobile 4G unlimited data (so they so boldly advertize until they shut you down). I really wanted to take advantage of the "Mobile on the go". In my vehicle I have Bluetooth that would allow me to stream music on the go (On my long commute through Houston everyday), or use Netflix on that long tripe with the family & tether to my Tablet to take care of business, stream, movies. You get the point.
As for down loading, I am not sure why you would want to do any major downloading through a phone anyway. Using your home network is much better for major downloading.
This is my experience with ATT Unlimited Data Plan:
I got grandfathered into the unlimited data plan through my old iphone original, if my memory serves me correct. I don't use data heavily like some of you do and I tether infrequently. Last summer, we were at a community swimming pool where we live and I let my daughter to tether to my Samsung android phone. My daughter at the time had an iphone 3gs. About two weeks later, I got a nasty message from att telling me that they noticed that I was tethering and that they will put me on an appropriate data plan if I don't call them back. So, I called and played dumb and they told me that if I ever tether again, they will go ahead and terminate my unlimited data plan.
I received a Samsung Note 10.1 (model #8013) for christmas, and guess what? I have tethered the tablet to my android phone, thinking they won't notice the android traffic coming from an android phone. I have been careful, not downloading tablet-specific apps from the play store and such. Also, I only tether when there's no wifi, it's the last resort. It's been over a month and I haven't heard from them. I am sure ATT is chomping at the bits to get me so they can get rid of one more unlimited data user.
Am I committing a fraud? Maybe. I'd like to think I am engaging in a civil disobedience against an unjust power.
Isn't AT&T also committing a fraud, when they are advertisizing "unlimited" when in fact there's a limit?
The amount of data is unlimited. And they do warn you if you go above a certain amount they will throttle you down. And they let you know the plan is for one phone only and offer you a tethering add-on. They offer thousands of free hotspots for heavy downloaders and give you an app to find them.
Its their superhighway - you just pay the tolls and follow the rules. You don't like them, but it's not fraud on their part.
So with Verizon now having the share plans to eliminate the unlimited plans, thus squeezing more money out of us, I agree with the many on here that say they can have my unlimited when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. So with that being said, I used to be big on swapping roms with my Incredible, but never really messed with my Rezound other than upgrading to the Global RUU, unlocking and rooting it so I can tether wirelessly. Now that an LTE tower was recently put near my house, I can get 4g speeds. I want to cancel my broadband in the house save a bundle and just tether through my phone. I know with my Dinc, there were many Roms with data throttling removed or zip files out there to flash that could remove it. So my question is does VZW still throttle, and if they do, is there a data throttle removal for the Rezound out there?
They don't throttle 4g connections. At least that's what the rep told me. Theres no way to remove throttling from the phone. Vzw does it on there end according to congestion on the tower your connected to using your esn. And as soon as the tower is not so congested you get bandwidth back. But the rep told me if you have a 4g phone you don't get throttled, even if your only connected to 3g. That's coming from a rep over the phone, so take it for what its worth.
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Texas is right.
VZW doesn't throttle 4g, and you have to be one of the top 10% of heavy users.
Also, throttling is done on their end, nothing to do with the phone.
Yeah I only get throttled in the day when I'm downloading massive files. I have downloaded 15gb torrents at night before and Verizon doesn't throttle me.
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I would like to know why Verizon throttles 3G but not 4G. I know I use a heck of a lot more data when I finally got 4G in my area and being unlimited you think they would want to stop me at some point being I can not go over a number for them to add additional charges to me.
Jimi Mack said:
I would like to know why Verizon throttles 3G but not 4G. I know I use a heck of a lot more data when I finally got 4G in my area and being unlimited you think they would want to stop me at some point being I can not go over a number for them to add additional charges to me.
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It's related to the terms of their FCC license. There's lots of restrictions placed on their ability to restrict use of the 700MHz band they use for LTE because of the terms of their license. They also can't restrict tethering on LTE, though they can still do so on 3G.
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One of the apps that's rumored to be related is an app called TetheringGuard.apk and its in system app I believe.
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Been looking into this for awhile now. Today, I've just rooted my Huawei Ascend Mate 2 (on 4.3) and I'm absolutely giddy over having a rooted android
Two things I've been finding come up is to change the APN settings (been playing with those, doesn't seem to help ) and to go into data/system/throttle and delete the two files you find there after backing them up to your pc. Problem is, while this folder seems to pop up for a lot of people, there doesn't appear to be a throttle folder in my phone. This may be because, even though it was sold through Net10 and uses Net10 service, it's originally technically an AT&T phone. To my understanding (and I may be a total noob here), the big carrier companies like AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc, throttle you when they see you're using too much on their towers. But that prepaid carriers piggyback on the big carriers, so rather than being able to monitor you (because they can't watch the towers, it's not their towers) they install these triggers in their devices to automatically activate when you exceed a certain data threshold (in my case, 3GBs). Is my understanding incorrect here? Just trying to learn from what I read on forums.
Anyone here who can help me figure out how to bypass the throttle, or at least make it a bit faster than 16kbps when being throttled? I understand getting slowed down, I'm not gonna sit here like "Lol but it says unlimited lol" because I actually read the fine print. But 16kbps is unbelievably slow (on full bars/strong dbm signal. Weak signal areas give me about 2kbps while on throttle). Hell, I'd be good with 50-100kbps.......
If you need more info to help me out, just ask! I'd appreciate anyone who has any ideas on how to either bypass or speed up (even slightly).
No flaming or 'smartassery', please, not everyone knows what may be obvious to you.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but typically throttling takes place on the network not the native side it would be too hard to manage however that being said Mac address tracking does seem to take place quite a bit that's mainly for marketing purposes. In the past throttling was controlled by a proxy server. Take out the proxy and you remove throttling. I am sure I don't know the infinite number of ways to limit or governor each data connection but as for now I am using a cc variant that I manually built to factory unlocked spec and no proxy or throttling my only limitation seems to be how far away from the tower I am and the limitations of the hardware itself which I can't complain at times I can peg the meter on a speed test.
SonyXperiaz1s said:
Been looking into this for awhile now. Today, I've just rooted my Huawei Ascend Mate 2 (on 4.3) and I'm absolutely giddy over having a rooted android
Two things I've been finding come up is to change the APN settings (been playing with those, doesn't seem to help ) and to go into data/system/throttle and delete the two files you find there after backing them up to your pc. Problem is, while this folder seems to pop up for a lot of people, there doesn't appear to be a throttle folder in my phone. This may be because, even though it was sold through Net10 and uses Net10 service, it's originally technically an AT&T phone. To my understanding (and I may be a total noob here), the big carrier companies like AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, etc, throttle you when they see you're using too much on their towers. But that prepaid carriers piggyback on the big carriers, so rather than being able to monitor you (because they can't watch the towers, it's not their towers) they install these triggers in their devices to automatically activate when you exceed a certain data threshold (in my case, 3GBs). Is my understanding incorrect here? Just trying to learn from what I read on forums.
Anyone here who can help me figure out how to bypass the throttle, or at least make it a bit faster than 16kbps when being throttled? I understand getting slowed down, I'm not gonna sit here like "Lol but it says unlimited lol" because I actually read the fine print. But 16kbps is unbelievably slow (on full bars/strong dbm signal. Weak signal areas give me about 2kbps while on throttle). Hell, I'd be good with 50-100kbps.......
If you need more info to help me out, just ask! I'd appreciate anyone who has any ideas on how to either bypass or speed up (even slightly).
No flaming or 'smartassery', please, not everyone knows what may be obvious to you.
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They do not use files on the phone to throttle you. That is done at the providers end.
There is NO possible way to bypass throttling.
I'm with metro pcs $60 plan and I feel I'm being throttle. When I first got their service I was getting real good download speeds, now I could barely load a webpage. Would calling them and complain fix it? Lol
I get better speeds when I set the phone to WCDMA only its just really strange
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Moody66 said:
They do not use files on the phone to throttle you. That is done at the providers end.
There is NO possible way to bypass throttling.
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Then why does the throttle folder with files exist on *some* prepaid devices (as i stated, while this is using a prepaid service it technically is not a prepaid phone)? It obviously is there for a reason. Too many people have reported success with increased data speed by removal of these files to not be true.... Also saw a posting about getting much deeper into the phone, doing stuff to dex and jar files, ive been meaning to find that posting again.
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I'm with metro pcs $60 plan and I feel I'm being throttle. When I first got their service I was getting real good download speeds, now I could barely load a webpage. Would calling them and complain fix it? Lol
I get better speeds when I set the phone to WCDMA only its just really strange
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Idk, maybe? Youd probably get better feedback if you posted this as an independent question rather than here.
Thats interesting about the WCDMA thing though. Ive heard before that that can help but havent tried it... most stuff i havent tried because im afraid of doing something wrong and screwing up the radio, haha
Some have had their speed reinacted through straight talk by calling and apologizing and complaining and asking to speak to the manager, basically any means possible you have of trying to extract precious high speed from them. But, who knows how long it would last for if you were able to succeed.
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Then why does the throttle folder with files exist on *some* prepaid devices (as i stated, while this is using a prepaid service it technically is not a prepaid phone)? It obviously is there for a reason. Too many people have reported success with increased data speed by removal of these files to not be true.... Also saw a posting about getting much deeper into the phone, doing stuff to dex and jar files, ive been meaning to find that posting again.
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Old technology. It was replaced with Sims. Long ago. If it were that simple people would just put there Sim into a different phone and have full access again. This can NOT be done.
pucherto123 said:
I'm with metro pcs $60 plan and I feel I'm being throttle. When I first got their service I was getting real good download speeds, now I could barely load a webpage. Would calling them and complain fix it? Lol
I get better speeds when I set the phone to WCDMA only its just really strange
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I also use MetroPCS, but I have not seen any throttling. I would def call them. I have found their cust service to be pretty good. I normally get 50-75mb down speeds here in New York and I use 15-20 gb's a month. There are areas where the speed will be slower, but it is still 15mb or higher in those areas. The $60 plan does not have any throttling.
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Old technology. It was replaced with Sims. Long ago. If it were that simple people would just put there Sim into a different phone and have full access again. This can NOT be done.
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Ahhh. So that applies to CDMA phones, but not GSM phones, if im understanding correctly?
arampapaz said:
I also use MetroPCS, but I have not seen any throttling. I would def call them. I have found their cust service to be pretty good. I normally get 50-75mb down speeds here in New York and I use 15-20 gb's a month. There are areas where the speed will be slower, but it is still 15mb or higher in those areas. The $60 plan does not have any throttling.
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Man, wish I could get MetroPCS where I live.... Im stuck with AT&T or any prepaid plans that piggyback off AT&T. Super jealous right now, I can only use 3GBs until data speeds become unbearable, haha
SonyXperiaz1s said:
Man, wish I could get MetroPCS where I live.... Im stuck with AT&T or any prepaid plans that piggyback off AT&T. Super jealous right now, I can only use 3GBs until data speeds become unbearable, haha
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Yeah, I used to have AT&T, then Straight Talk. I switched to MetroPCS because I kept getting throttled after my 3gb's were up. The throttled speeds are useless. Now I don't have to worry about data at all. I wasn't sure the service would be too great, but I have not had any issues so far. But that's the great thing about buying unlocked phones, we are free to use whoever we want.
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Ahhh. So that applies to CDMA phones, but not GSM phones, if im understanding correctly?
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CDMA phones use Sims as well.
You're going to want to use T-Mobile to get the best speeds. If you have a healthy MT2-L03 and using fast.t-mobile.com as your APN I'm never throttled unlimited top tier LTE. You won't get the same speeds with any other carrier.
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You're going to want to use T-Mobile to get the best speeds. If you have a healthy MT2-L03 and using fast.t-mobile.com as your APN I'm never throttled unlimited top tier LTE. You won't get the same speeds with any other carrier.
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They are good for data. But coverage is very limited still.
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I pay $55 a month from Cricket. That gets you 10gb of LTE. Throttled at 8mb a second. thats more then enough to do anything. I've had this phone since release and use mobile hotspot all the time for my laptop and tablet on the road.
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I pay $55 a month from Cricket. That gets you 10gb of LTE. Throttled at 8mb a second. thats more then enough to do anything. I've had this phone since release and use mobile hotspot all the time for my laptop and tablet on the road.
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So after being throttle you get 8mbps of download on 3g? What's your speed like before being throttle?
What are you talking about that is before throttle. what providers promise and what the towers actually deliver is 2 different. things. 8mbps is LTE. my brother has a Note 4 on Verizion and on a speed test with 3 bars of LTE he only gets around 10mbps if he's lucky. he is not being throttled. he pays about $160 a month compared to my $55 from cricket. there is nothing on my HAM2 that I cant do with 8mbps. name something....
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