So every time I wanna try out a new rom I always go back to stock just because it makes me feel better to start from scratch. But every time I do I have to do a complete wipe on my sd card before I can root. The update.zip file will still be there but I can't root unless I completely wipe the sd then reinstall the update.zip file. Any one know why that is necessary? It gets annoying having to either lose all my data or transfer it to my computer.
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jrod33084 said:
So every time I wanna try out a new rom I always go back to stock just because it makes me feel better to start from scratch. But every time I do I have to do a complete wipe on my sd card before I can root. The update.zip file will still be there but I can't root unless I completely wipe the sd then reinstall the update.zip file. Any one know why that is necessary? It gets annoying having to either lose all my data or transfer it to my computer.
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You dont have to wipe your SD card to root. Heck if you have the update.zip for clockwork you dont even have to root your phone again just reinstall packages twice and you will be in clockwork. Once you flash the ROM from there you'll have root (considering ofc that the ROM you flash is rooted).
You do NOT have to go back to stock everytime... read my guides. You really only need to do that if you have issues with the new rom. It takes me 30 minutes max to go from one rom to another and be set back up like normal (this includes downloading the rom).
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You dont have to wipe your SD card to root. Heck if you have the update.zip for clockwork you dont even have to root your phone again just reinstall packages twice and you will be in clockwork. Once you flash the ROM from there you'll have root (considering ofc that the ROM you flash is rooted).
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So are you saying that even if I don't see the superuser app im still rooted if I can get into recovery from the stock rom? Id feel like an idiot if this whole time I was deleting and transferring files for no reason this whole time lol
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You don't need root to load clockwork recovery, I often leave the update.zip for clockwork on my sd card and when I odin back to jfd I then reinstall packages from recovery, get into clockwork recovery and choose the zip I want to flash
I usually use z4 root when I need to root my phone on Eclair.
Im an idiot. I was only looking for the superuser app to know if im rooted or not
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I was in Clockwork Recovery after backing up my stock system (this is my first time) it gave me the options in green text: Reboot, reinstall update.zip, etc.
I chose reboot and everything loaded up fine and after checking in Rom Manager I have a backup of my system. I just want to know if that was the right choice. or should I have reinstalled update.zip
I guess my question revolves around update.zip.
What is that file? I know I originally used it to gain root access but do I need to reinstall it from clockwork recovery everytime before rebooting? and when should I delete it? and are there any negative consequences for not doing either?
As you can tell I'm a noob....but hey I can't believe I'm rooted and backed up at the moment. I'm gonna stop here before flashing any custonm roms and get this question answered first.
I think you are fine. I would not worry so much, i have deleted the update.zip, but since you booted up into ClockWork Recovery you are most likely fine.
I am booted back up completely and the stock os is running and I'm still rooted. I just want to know what that option inside of clockwork recovery means. What is the reason to reinstall update.zip from clockwork recovery and what is the reason to reboot? And once I'm booted back up and running when/why do I go into my files and delete update.zip?
It's not that I'm worried...I just want to know why I'm doing what I'm doing.
I would keep the file. Less chance of failure.
You are only going to use cwr for this:
Backup/restore system
Wipe cache, factory wipe, etc
Flashing rom's (install from sd card)
Don't worry about the other stuff.
I'm confused by the op, not sure how you made a backup from how it reads.
I think I made the backup by flashing into clockwork recovery from rom manager. It started with the purple text recovery mode and I hit reinstall packets. Then it went into the green text clockwork recovery....I think. I've only done it once.
So in clockwork recovery I choose the backup/restore option and then the backup option. So then the phone I assume began the backup process and displayed many lines of white text. At the very end it said something about not being able to mount my ext sd card (which) had me worried.....but then it brought up the menu again. The top option was reboot, the second was reinstall update.zip and I didn't pay attention to the rest because I was pretty sure I needed one of the first two....I just didn't know which one. I selected reboot and the phone then booted into the stock os and was still rooted. Is the fact that it wasn't able to mount my ext sd card at the end of the backup process an issue? I'm able to find a backup in rom manager. Also, if the backup process works correctly should the phone reboot by itself?
What I'm asking is what am I booting from when I choose "reboot" from clockwork recovery and what does it mean to choose "reinstall (packet?) update.zip"? I thought update.zip was what I needed to root.
This last step wasn't in your tutorial (purple text menu) so maybe something didn't go as it should have.
I'm not sure.
Thanks s15274n for the tutorial btw. Its by far the most helpful concise instructions I've found and is really appreciated.
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The update.zip in the root of the internal SD card is clockwork recovery (CR). When you install CR it does not overwrite your phone's recovery. What it does is install that update.zip in the root of the SD card. When you want to use CR, you need to "update packages" which will flash that update.zip which contains the CR package. That will load CR into memory only and still does not overwrite the original recovery on the phone. When you reboot into recovery from ROM Manager, it automatically reboots and applies the update.zip and places you into CR. If you enter recovery manually (via buttons on boot), you will need to "re-install packages" from the stock recovery to get CR.
So if you want to use CR, keep that update.zip in the root of the SD card. If you erase it, you will need to re-install it (using ROM Manager) before you can use CR instead of the stock recovery. I hope that makes sense. If not, here is the explanation straight from Koush on how it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734164&highlight=clockwork
^^ You are all good then.
The SD-EXT is not going to backup, because you do not have a partiotion on your external SD card (no need for one, like some other phones require). This is normal from what you described.
You will never use the apply update.zip option in CWR... just dont pay any mind to it.
When you select reboot system now, that is all it is.... you are basically saying "Cool, I did everything I needed to do (backup/flash a rom/wipe, etc)... and now I am ready to reboot my phone... ie, you are basically cutting your phone on.
Positive you did, but you can open rom manager, click on manage backups and you should see a file there that has a format kinda like YYYYMMDDTIME, that is the backup you made... no action needed, just an easy way to verify you made a backup of your system.
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I would keep the file. Less chance of failure.
You are only going to use cwr for this:
Backup/restore system
Wipe cache, factory wipe, etc
Flashing rom's (install from sd card)
Don't worry about the other stuff.
I'm confused by the op, not sure how you made a backup from how it reads.
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Thanks s15274n
i have been wondering the same thing about the update.zip file whether to keep it or not.
Thanks s15274n for the tutorial btw. Its by far the most helpful concise instructions I've found and is really appreciated.
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Also wanted to say i feel the same way. Appreciate the guide so much!
Thanks guys. I'm glad to have that cleared up so I understand it. Gives me more confidence to do the other things I want to do.
I got confused with the fact that I need to delete the update.zip file after rooting and the fact thats its there again after flashing cw and backing up.
Sometimes I need things spelled out for me. Makes complete sense now.
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ok I successfully rooted an optimus V phone with superoneclick and adb shell. And how nice was it to see "Running a SU test.......Success !" so of course I went ahead and downloaded superuser and titanium backup as per the tutorial I used. everything checks out. so what's next??? getting Root without doing something nifty is pretty worthless. so... I think I am going to go with an optimized stock rom as suggested to limit headaches for now.
Some tutorials suggest backing things up. Some talk again activating the storage feature and start adding rom's to the sd card. etc... all I know that titanium backup doesn't care much for the stock rom as it is. By the way do I need to worry about changing the kernel?
I am planning on going with Harmonia for this optimus V, if that helps, for a rom.
Always open to advice on what you'd recommend and why. thanks folks !!
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ok I successfully rooted an optimus V phone with superoneclick and adb shell. And how nice was it to see "Running a SU test.......Success !" so of course I went ahead and downloaded superuser and titanium backup as per the tutorial I used. everything checks out. so what's next??? getting Root without doing something nifty is pretty worthless. so... I think I am going to go with an optimized stock rom as suggested to limit headaches for now.
Some tutorials suggest backing things up. Some talk again activating the storage feature and start adding rom's to the sd card. etc... all I know that titanium backup doesn't care much for the stock rom as it is. By the way do I need to worry about changing the kernel?
I am planning on going with Harmonia for this optimus V, if that helps, for a rom.
Always open to advice on what you'd recommend and why. thanks folks !!
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Wait...you rooted without knowing what you were planning to do after you rooted?
First, you'll want to boot into recovery and do a nandroid backup (just in case you ever needed to go back to stock for warranty reasons). Then pick a ROM. My ROM of choice is is [ROM][WIP][ALPHA] aospCMod | AOSP 2.3.3 / CM7 (Gingerbread). Download the gapps file and put on root of SD card. For this ROM, go to Twitter and search aospluniX. WARNING...make sure you download the OV files, NOT the HC files. Once the 2 OV files are downloaded put on root of SD card. Boot into recovery mode, wipe data/cache, wipe Dalvik cache. At main menu, go to Flash .zip from SD card. Flash the OV ROM file. When that finishes flash the gapps file. Reboot, then behold the glory that is AOSP!
EDIT: almost forgot, flashing a kernel is up to you. Just place on root of SD card and flash. You can do this at any time. AOSP's ROM has a built in kernel, which is my preference. Seems to run really smooth and fast for me.
Having troubles with my GSII. Need to flash a new ROM but I don't want to lose all of my contacts, messages etc. so which ROM's won't wipe the data on the phone? Or will any ROM work once I don't wipe the data manually from CWM? I'm on an old build of a Gingerbread MIUI ROM, but would flashing an ICS ROM work fine?
Need to do something - it's the last straw before I bite the bullet and buy an iPhone 4S (saving myself €680 in the process).
Backing up in CWM shows "Error while generating MD5 sum!" when it's nearly complete, backing up to the internal SD card as when I try a normal one it comes up "Error while backing up boot image" straight away. Going out to buy a 4S at around lunch time if it doesn't work so I need help quickly.
Skellyyy said:
Having troubles with my GSII. Need to flash a new ROM but I don't want to lose all of my contacts, messages etc. so which ROM's won't wipe the data on the phone? Or will any ROM work once I don't wipe the data manually from CWM? I'm on an old build of a Gingerbread MIUI ROM, but would flashing an ICS ROM work fine?
Need to do something - it's the last straw before I bite the bullet and buy an iPhone 4S (saving myself €680 in the process).
Backing up in CWM shows "Error while generating MD5 sum!" when it's nearly complete, backing up to the internal SD card as when I try a normal one it comes up "Error while backing up boot image" straight away. Going out to buy a 4S at around lunch time if it doesn't work so I need help quickly.
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it is very simple to backup your contacts/call logs/data/apps with MIUI backup, if you are moving MIUI to MIUI
it is strongly recommended to wipe your data before moving from GB to ICS.
I have solution for MD5 checksum error, if you need ask...
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it is very simple to backup your contacts/call logs/data/apps with MIUI backup, if you are moving MIUI to MIUI
it is strongly recommended to wipe your data before moving from GB to ICS.
I have solution for MD5 checksum error, if you need ask...
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Well then I guess I'll flash a GB ROM so. What's the solution can I ask? I'm getting a continuous boot-loop, so unfortunately I cannot back-up via MIUI Backup.
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Just try the reverse and if it doesn't work, you may need a compulsive reboot device
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What do you mean reverse? Back to stock? I would, but the computer I'm on doesn't have anything on it with relation to my SII.
Skellyyy said:
Well then I guess I'll flash a GB ROM so. What's the solution can I ask? I'm getting a continuous boot-loop, so unfortunately I cannot back-up via MIUI Backup.
What do you mean reverse? Back to stock? I would, but the computer I'm on doesn't have anything on it with relation to my SII.
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MD5 checksum error of CWM of the MIUI roms is a known issue,
solutions are:
1) flash a siyah GB kernel from CWM and reboot to its CWM and make a back up,
by default backup will be stored to external SD, make space for atleas 1.5 gb (depends on your apps size, if only few apps 1 GB is enough)
if above also is giving same treble, use the second option which worked for me nicely..
2) Download ROM manager, falsh CWM version from thata, reboot recovery from Rom manager from there make a Backup..
CWM will not read the Backup from External SD by default move your backups to internel backup forlder of Clockworkmod.
then you dowload the latest GB version MIUI, either form XDA or from MIUI sites and flash from CWM, again flash Siyah
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MD5 checksum error of CWM of the MIUI roms is a known issue,
solutions are:
1) flash a siyah GB kernel from CWM and reboot to its CWM and make a back up,
by default backup will be stored to external SD, make space for atleas 1.5 gb (depends on your apps size, if only few apps 1 GB is enough)
if above also is giving same treble, use the second option which worked for me nicely..
2) Download ROM manager, falsh CWM version from thata, reboot recovery from Rom manager from there make a Backup..
CWM will not read the Backup from External SD by default move your backups to internel backup forlder of Clockworkmod.
then you dowload the latest GB version MIUI, either form XDA or from MIUI sites and flash from CWM, again flash Siyah
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I can't actually get into the phone in any way so I guess I'll have to try the kernel. Will any version of the kernel work?
Skellyyy said:
I can't actually get into the phone in any way so I guess I'll have to try the kernel. Will any version of the kernel work?
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if you are on GB version try only GB version, any GB will do....
this is the latest try this : http://gokhanmoral.desean.net/siyahkernel/v2.6/Siyah-v2.6.14-CWM.zip
flash from CWM...
ZACQ8 said:
if you are on GB version try only GB version, any GB will do....
this is the latest try this : http://gokhanmoral.desean.net/siyahkernel/v2.6/Siyah-v2.6.14-CWM.zip
flash from CWM...
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Put it onto the SD card yeah? And apply update or install zip? I'm guessing zip.
Skellyyy said:
Having troubles with my GSII. Need to flash a new ROM but I don't want to lose all of my contacts, messages etc. so which ROM's won't wipe the data on the phone? Or will any ROM work once I don't wipe the data manually from CWM? I'm on an old build of a Gingerbread MIUI ROM, but would flashing an ICS ROM work fine?
Need to do something - it's the last straw before I bite the bullet and buy an iPhone 4S (saving myself €680 in the process).
Backing up in CWM shows "Error while generating MD5 sum!" when it's nearly complete, backing up to the internal SD card as when I try a normal one it comes up "Error while backing up boot image" straight away. Going out to buy a 4S at around lunch time if it doesn't work so I need help quickly.
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Please save us time and go buy your iphone, instead of making excuses....
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I'm fairly sure there's space on the phone. But I can't copy it over because it's saying there's zero space on the phone? As it's including the external SD card files in the total. :S
atifsh said:
Please save us time and go buy your iphone, instead of making excuses....
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Please go and get out of my thread. Thanks. Mis-interpretation at its finest. If I wanted to just go ahead and buy the iPhone I would, but I don't. It's the last straw as everything else I've done has failed. You can't deny that they're the most reliable phone there is.
bootloop is the result of launcher & Themes, when I tryed to change themes I got FCs and bootloop on reboot, only worked was factory data reset and flash the same ROM zip from CWM...
but you are concerened about your apps & data, by flashing the siyah I dont think resolve bootloop issue but you may be able to make a back up from its Recovery...
since you have no access to interal SD now, copy to external SD and select kernel zip from install zip from external SD card. i hope it will work..
otherwise you will have to flash Tar version of the Siyah kernel form ODIN in download mod
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bootloop is the result of launcher & Themes, when I tryed to change themes I got FCs and bootloop on reboot, only worked was factory data reset and flash the same ROM zip from CWM...
but you are concerened about your apps & data, by flashing the siyah I dont think resolve bootloop issue but you may be able to make a back up from its Recovery...
since you have no access to interal SD now, copy to external SD and select kernel zip from install zip from external SD card. i hope it will work..
otherwise you will have to flash Tar version of the Siyah kernel form ODIN in download mod
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Thanks. Yes. I hope to just backup with Siyah. I'm currently transferring all 19GB's worth of data on my SD card to my computer in hopes that it will show up with space in Finder. This will take a while.
ZACQ8 said:
bootloop is the result of launcher & Themes, when I tryed to change themes I got FCs and bootloop on reboot, only worked was factory data reset and flash the same ROM zip from CWM...
but you are concerened about your apps & data, by flashing the siyah I dont think resolve bootloop issue but you may be able to make a back up from its Recovery...
since you have no access to interal SD now, copy to external SD and select kernel zip from install zip from external SD card. i hope it will work..
otherwise you will have to flash Tar version of the Siyah kernel form ODIN in download mod
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Also I do have access to it. But only through "external SD" in the internal files.
I don't have an SD card adapter so I can't use that.
Skellyyy said:
Also I do have access to it. But only through "external SD" in the internal files.
I don't have an SD card adapter so I can't use that.
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actually I dont get.....
Your phone is booted and are you able to access the phone memory throu PC, that is what you mean??
You accuse others of misinterpretation.
Which part of "help-me-fix-my-phone-or-I'll-buy -an-iphone-right-now-in-fact-during-my-lunchbreak" am I misinterpretating?
And with an attitude like yours, why should we care?
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You accuse others of misinterpretation.
Which part of "help-me-fix-my-phone-or-I'll-buy -an-iphone-right-now-in-fact-during-my-lunchbreak" am I misinterpretating?
And with an attitude like yours, why should we care?
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Quite a lot. Maybe it came across as a little rude, but there's no denying that iPhone's are the most reliable smart phone on the market. Most Android phones need you to root/flash to get the most out the system, with iPhone's this isn't the case. I know they're not the best phone on the market, which doesn't delight me but I'm contempt owning one. Knowing that something is not likely to go wrong - leaving me without any of my precious data.
With my SII all that happened was the phone died, and then all of a sudden it started boot-looping, after working fine for about a month (had a similar problem before).
Not happy about being trapped into Apple's eco-system, but if that's what it takes to have a reliable phone with superb battery life then that's what I'm going to do. And once there is a jailbreak for the 4S on 5.1 I'll be doing it ASAP.
Anyway; flashed that kernel to my phone. Worked a treat, and the whole back-up was successful (changed my CWM to a touch version too lol). Thanks a lot ZACQ8.
Here's hoping that flashing a new ROM will work smoothly. If so I'm going to sell it, get the $$$, bring the 4S back (I've got 14 day cooling off period) and try out the One X.
I know I should really just be searching but I doubt I'll find a specific answer so... does anyone have suggestions for a reliable ROM?
Download 'My Phone Explorer' on your computer, being using it for two years now with no complaints, used it with a sgs2 recently.
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Roger00 said:
Download 'My Phone Explorer' on your computer, being using it for two years now with no complaints, used it with a sgs2 recently.
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From this website? http://www.fjsoft.at/en/
Quite a generic name for a piece of software, and does it work without actually needing access to the phone in an 'off' state? As still getting boot-loop meaning I've no chance of getting into the phone.
I expect it to not work very nicely with Mac OSX though. Really sounding like an Apple fanboy, eh?
Also, the ROM I'm looking for (quite specific) has to be 2.3 and a non-wipe ROM. Currently downloading 'XWLA4 by TugaPower'. The non-wipe version, let's hope.
Successfully flashed that ROM, getting FC's when trying to enter my contacts. So then went into CWM, tried to restore my old backup but it's saying: "MD5 mismatch!"
How exactly do I fix this to be able to flash my backup of my previous ROM?
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Successfully flashed that ROM, getting FC's when trying to enter my contacts.
Factory reset .
# Fails reflash firmware .
So then went into CWM, tried to restore my old backup but it's saying: "MD5 mismatch!"
How exactly do I fix this to be able to flash my backup of my previous ROM
Requires same version of CWM as backup taken with .
jje
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Hey XDA. I bought a rooted Evo 3D Sprint and it is currently running some version of Hboot, with TWRP recovery, and synergy rom. Gingerbread 2.3. My SD card with my phones backup and root data is missing. I bought a new SD card and copied the data over to it but the phone doesn't recognize data when I try and run the bootloader from startup. It's liek the data isn't there and in turn I can't add any roms.
I want ICS on the phone can I re root it in its current state with a whole new root? I want to learn how to do it myself but I just don't know if I'm going to screw up something if its already rooted.
I know I can't use the OTA sprint just sent out to the Evo3D (finally) so my only option is to keep rooting. I need help. Plus what's a good root and rom I should use. I'm a newb so a little insight is helpful.
Umm never heard of tgat. When you go to the hboot you can't select recovery then through recovery find the folders with your downloaded roms? I can take the sd card out and still have root. Its on the internal where the rom (synergy) is running from.
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Not sure where your problem is but its not by just switching sd cards. Unless it's been dual booted. Meaning you have two roms you can run independently from one another.
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Check if your SD card is formated to the fat32 file system.
I had a similar issue once with my Wildfire.
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Hey XDA. I bought a rooted Evo 3D Sprint and it is currently running some version of Hboot, with TWRP recovery, and synergy rom. Gingerbread 2.3. My SD card with my phones backup and root data is missing. I bought a new SD card and copied the data over to it but the phone doesn't recognize data when I try and run the bootloader from startup. It's liek the data isn't there and in turn I can't add any roms.
I want ICS on the phone can I re root it in its current state with a whole new root? I want to learn how to do it myself but I just don't know if I'm going to screw up something if its already rooted.
I know I can't use the OTA sprint just sent out to the Evo3D (finally) so my only option is to keep rooting. I need help. Plus what's a good root and rom I should use. I'm a newb so a little insight is helpful.
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I'm good now guys thanks. Just rooted over it with ICS. Its running beautifully. Used 4ext recovery and flashing roms is a breeze with that app.
Yesterday I was a newb today I completed my first root and rom install. I feel empowered.
All fixed but the issue was...
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Umm never heard of tgat. When you go to the hboot you can't select recovery then through recovery find the folders with your downloaded roms? I can take the sd card out and still have root. Its on the internal where the rom (synergy) is running from.
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The problem was it would no longer load bootloader. I could press power and down volume a billion times but it would not load. Glad that's over.