I teather with my phone a good deal... and my DINC is on its last leg. Not holding charge, sound issues, lagging, blah blah blah.
I am going to go today as long as I hear that I can use a teathering app aside from the one VZW sells.
Yeah! I've tested pdanet and easytether both with success!
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There are several you can use now, and many more once this phone is rooted.
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That is what I wanted to hear... and I'm gone!
Wait... doesn't PDA net limit you to non HTTPS sites?
The PAID version of easy tether is rocket fast and allows access to every site.
I can't believe how much faster it is than the allegedly 4G verizon wireless hotspot .
i have the paid PDANet and it works just fine in Win 7 Ultimate x64 (although does not work in Ubuntu)
All those wifi tether apps require root though so you'll either have to do the temp root method or wait until S-OFF
So there are no wifi versions? Using the tether and connecting the USB are counter productive. The power drain is higher that the charge most times, or at least so I thought..
I'm a little hazy on this topic of unsanctioned tethering with Verizon: can I use these apps in a pinch if I don't have a data plan with "Mobile Hotspot" or will VZW know the instant that I try and slap me 20 ways with fees?
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So there are no wifi versions? Using the tether and connecting the USB are counter productive. The power drain is higher that the charge most times, or at least so I thought..
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You can grab wifi tether from http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ however take it with a grain of salt that it only works with root access and temp root is hardly stable at this point. You probably need to freeze the tetherguard package as well. I'm not undertaking this experiment until I get full root.
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I'm a little hazy on this topic of unsanctioned tethering with Verizon: can I use these apps in a pinch if I don't have a data plan with "Mobile Hotspot" or will VZW know the instant that I try and slap me 20 ways with fees?
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Yes you may use this in a pinch without a separate hotspot plan through VZW. If you start taking advantage and your data usage increases you might throw a red flag. Just don't go crazy on 4G downloading large files and what not and you'll be fine.
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Yes you may use this in a pinch without a separate hotspot plan through VZW. If you start taking advantage and your data usage increases you might throw a red flag. Just don't go crazy on 4G downloading large files and what not and you'll be fine.
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Cool. It was the same thing when I was in Japan - some providers offered tethering plans, but they want an arm and a leg for them so deciding to tether on the sly with an unlocked phone was an easy choice.
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So there are no wifi versions? Using the tether and connecting the USB are counter productive. The power drain is higher that the charge most times, or at least so I thought..
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This is not what I am seeing. Using Easy Tether paid version. (10 bucks) My phone still gains charge while tethered.
But the huge advantage is that I'm seeing is that my speeds while tethered just blow away the hotspot speeds. My phone using Verizon wireless hotspot will not stream a 1080p video without stopping to buffer every 15-30 seconds. BUT, when using Easy Tether I am able to stream THREE open 1080p Youtube vids with no buffer stops! That is definitely a productive difference to me.
(BTW, You can try the free version and you just won't be able to access https sites.)
I believe Verizon wireless "4G" hotspot is throttled on this phone!
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You can grab wifi tether from http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ however take it with a grain of salt that it only works with root access and temp root is hardly stable at this point. You probably need to freeze the tetherguard package as well. I'm not undertaking this experiment until I get full root.
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agreed. Keeping my thunderbolt around until root is gained. My wife and I share a time warner hotspot, but for now, I told her, she would have to use the bolt to wireless tether.
Would it work to tether via usb host with adapter to a tablet?
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I just bought a thunderbolt on impulse. This time yesterday I had no plan to do so, but I woke up on the wrong side of the bed I guess.
Love the phone thus far, though coming from an EVO I don't feel much difference beyond the speed of the device.
Does anyone know ways to improve tethering? Using the FCC speedtest app I am getting 5-7Mbps Down adn 20-30Mbps Up pings all around 100. On my tethered XOOM I am getting an impressive 4-6ish down, 3-6ish up with pings from 50-150.
The numbers when I started this thread were about 3 and 3 which still beats my evos 1 and 1 in optimal conditions. Thus far the Thunderbolt seems to connect to 4G instantly and unlike the EVO the stock tethering app is 4G friendly, but more to the point the 700mhz seems to be proving to be less placement centric. I can have it on a chair in the corner of the room under a desk and it seems to still get damn good speeds. Where I am used to putting my EVO on a windowsill and still wanting better signal.
All that aside, my point of this thread is, has anyone found tweaks that increase tethering performance? Are certain channels better, or does less/no encryption increase performance?
Bump. I know I can't be the only one who wants an answer to the best way to tether.
im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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I've been tethering on my D1 for months and never been "detected". Tethered data looks like cell phone data to the provider. The only way I could see being detected is if the app you are using (the included one) sends some sort of flag. AFAIK the root wifi tether does nothing of the sort.
what are you guys using to tether? a 3rd party tethering app?
I've tethered heavily for at least 8 months on Incredible and Droid X. Never had an issue with detection. You will need root for third party app once root us achieved. Permanent root should come today. Then use app from market
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im new to verizon and read that they are able to detect tethering from rooted devices. nice that we have tethering now, but when the time limit runs out will tethering be possible? has anyone tethered on verizon before without issue? is tethering truly unlimited, or is there a cap/throttle?
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hay112 said:
what are you guys using to tether? a 3rd party tethering app?
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Once you have root this program will let you use wifi to tether: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
There is one in the market too, but I've never used it...
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Also been tethering for over a year on my Droid and have never had an issue with VZW. My highest month ever was only 4 gigs, I average around 1.5-2.
I think your reception issue is more in the higher quality of the VZW network compared to the lousy Sprint network your EVO is on. People don't like to admit it, but my friends on Sprint and AT&T all have spots in thier house where the phone only works, or works best, etc.... Verizon that is generally not an issue.
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I've been tethering on my D1 for months and never been "detected". Tethered data looks like cell phone data to the provider. The only way I could see being detected is if the app you are using (the included one) sends some sort of flag. AFAIK the root wifi tether does nothing of the sort.
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A bit off-topic here but I turned on MobileAP on Galaxy Tab (AT&T) so that I could check out the GTablet while I was @local officemax store, AT&T detects it and sent me email & SMS reminder that I will need to have a proper plan.
So yes, they should be able to detect.
or you could use easytether, and tether via usb. No root required.
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or you could use easytether, and tether via usb. No root required.
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It user browser string to detect web traffic :silly:
All of my roms have network speed tweaks that improve your tethering :good:
after rooting the htc thunderbolt can we use the wifi tether app for root users to tether for free? and will it be at 4g speeds. sorry if this was answered already, and thanks for the info.
Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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thank you. i knew we had like a free trial period with the hot spot app, isnt that gonna cancel out soon? i wanna be able to use the wifi tether like i did with my motorola droid it was so handy having that option. thanks again..
The free hotspot thing ends on May 15th. Then you gotta pay.
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Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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yup...4g speeds a little slower through the tether but it still beats Comcast
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Be careful, Big Red (and others) is watching. Wireless tether, easy tether, and PDAnet have all been removed from the market for VZW customers. I am sure a quick Google search will find the apks to download, but I think part of what is pushing carriers to demand locked bootloaders is people abusing rooted tethering. I can’t say that I agree since I am paying for the data so it should not matter if I use it through my phone or laptop, but there have been rumblings of problems such as data throttles for heavy data users.
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Be careful, Big Red (and others) is watching. Wireless tether, easy tether, and PDAnet have all been removed from the market for VZW customers. I am sure a quick Google search will find the apks to download, but I think part of what is pushing carriers to demand locked bootloaders is people abusing rooted tethering. I can’t say that I agree since I am paying for the data so it should not matter if I use it through my phone or laptop, but there have been rumblings of problems such as data throttles for heavy data users.
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I don't agree with them, but I think the rationale is the buffet metaphor... you can't pay for the buffet and invite 5 friends to share your meal. I think this is a big part of why (to my knowledge) USB tethering isn't being targeted. Wifi tethering is like sharing with 5 friends, USB tethering is bringing your own plate and silverware.
Honestly I'd prefer a "do what you want, tethering or not" approach that included a X GB limit over this "unlimited, but we decide how you use it" crap.
aostl said:
Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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I hear the free unrooted mobile hotspot is only free for a few more weeks.
All you have to do to download Wireless Tether or any other apps blocked by Verizon is put your phone into Airplane Mode and then turn on WiFi. As long as you have a WiFi signal with the phone in Airplane Mode, you will have accessibility to all blocked Apps in the Market, even if your phone is not rooted!
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All you have to do to download Wireless Tether or any other apps blocked by Verizon is put your phone into Airplane Mode and then turn on WiFi. As long as you have a WiFi signal with the phone in Airplane Mode, you will have accessibility to all blocked Apps in the Market, even if your phone is not rooted!
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That's awesome to know. Tried and verified
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I don't agree with them, but I think the rationale is the buffet metaphor... you can't pay for the buffet and invite 5 friends to share your meal. I think this is a big part of why (to my knowledge) USB tethering isn't being targeted. Wifi tethering is like sharing with 5 friends, USB tethering is bringing your own plate and silverware.
Honestly I'd prefer a "do what you want, tethering or not" approach that included a X GB limit over this "unlimited, but we decide how you use it" crap.
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Personally, I don't like that companies are moving toward the "buffet" approach to providing internet access. I have AT&T DSL. They provide me with an internet connection. PERIOD. They don't give me the internet connection and then say only use this on one computer nor do they say I'm not allowerd to hook it up to my Linksys router. It makes more sense to me that way. Maxing out my connection speed on one machine would be equivalent to me maxing it out across several.
Is USB tether an option? or have they figured out a way to bill for that too? And can it be done without root?
I would also like to know if this is possible without buying their plan. Either EasyTether, PDANet, or Tether.com something like that. I'm hoping one of those will work otherwise it's a no go for me. I NEED some kind of tethering capability.
Still no answer to this?
You're either going to have to pay for T-Mobile's tethering service, find a tether app that works, or root your phone and wait for a custom ROM.
This phone was just realeased and not everyone has had the time to tinker with it, nor are there a lot of developers or experienced people roaming this forum yet.
Im assuming there is no mobile hotspot either ?
USB tethering does work with the Amaze 4g with PDAnet. I can confirm it.
The question i have is if someone with a rooted 4g using barnacle is able to wifi tether.
I have my old SIM card in it and it tethers just fine. Acer Iconia and laptop.
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USB tethering does work with the Amaze 4g with PDAnet. I can confirm it.
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Hmmm. My old Samsung phone tethers perfectly with PDAnet but Amaze does not.
Recognizes phone (black icon on PC) but refuses to believe tether is already enabled on phone.
Is it just me? Win7 home / BeastMod 2.2.0
jjane45 said:
Hmmm. My old Samsung phone tethers perfectly with PDAnet but Amaze does not.
Recognizes phone (black icon on PC) but refuses to believe tether is already enabled on phone.
Is it just me? Win7 home / BeastMod 2.2.0
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I am running exact same setup. Make sure you have current drivers on your computer by installing htc sync. You may have to use a different user agent on your web browser to avoid the tmobile upsell page. Pdanet isn't necessary, just use tye built in tethering.
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I don't understand why people just don't get the tethering option.
I broke down and upgraded to 10gb a month and it came with the wifi hotspot feature. And I NEED 10+gb a month. Currently I'm at 9.2gb and I still have a little over a week to go.
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I don't understand why people just don't get the tethering option.
I broke down and upgraded to 10gb a month and it came with the wifi hotspot feature. And I NEED 10+gb a month. Currently I'm at 9.2gb and I still have a little over a week to go.
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Ditto. They've (TMo US anyway) recently been giving free tethering/hotspot to anyone with 5gb or greater who asks, which is what I've got. And the built in tethering and hotspot both work great.
I've never gotten close to 5gb personally, but I just got the Amaze, and it is so much faster than my HD2 was (or even my cable) that I've basically been leaving WiFi off.
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Ditto. They've (TMo US anyway) recently been giving free tethering/hotspot to anyone with 5gb or greater who asks, which is what I've got. And the built in tethering and hotspot both work great.
I've never gotten close to 5gb personally, but I just got the Amaze, and it is so much faster than my HD2 was (or even my cable) that I've basically been leaving WiFi off.
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Actualy what tmo been doing is not giving away free tether but changing your data plan.and getting you to sign up for one of their 5gb or more plans.
I tried to get the free hotspot but I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan, and I'd be down graded to either the 5 or 10 gb.
And fyi I am very sure, just like the other carriers flow can tell if you are cheating, as in WiFi/tether hack. My rooted g2x had "free" tether, thoguh and never heard from tmo about it.
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I use usb tether and hotspot all the time and have never had any problema.im rooted using custom roms, but i want to say i did it when i was still stock too
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jcparks said:
I am running exact same setup. Make sure you have current drivers on your computer by installing htc sync. You may have to use a different user agent on your web browser to avoid the tmobile upsell page. Pdanet isn't necessary, just use tye built in tethering.
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Thanks so much! Firefox "user agent switcher" add-on got the job done, now that wifi hotspot works, I do not need USB tether.
I use very little data and only tether very very sparingly, so really don't see the need of upgrade.
I am wondering what people are doing for furthering with regards to protecting themselves. I guess most of this stems from a fear of losing my unlimited data plan. Ideally, I would like to tether over a VPN connection to encrypt all my data from anyone even seeing what type it is....but since the default pptp VPN on android does not allow you to browse over VPN from a tethered client, I am wondering what people are doing (if anything) to protect themselves.
Nothing, straight tether
Spoof mobile user agent string on client
ROM that has the kernel changed to allow browsing over pptp VPN connection
Browsing over L2tp VPN
I usually tether with USB, and that's supposed to be more discreet. I've thought about using WiFi tether, but I don't see the point unless I'm trying to connect multiple devices, then I would have to consider finding something to cover up that many devices.
I use Verizon hotspot since I don't care about unlimited data and saved a ton of money switching to the share everything plan....
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Po1soNNN said:
I use Verizon hotspot since I don't care about unlimited data and saved a ton of money switching to the share everything plan....
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Lol....funniest thing I've read today..
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Po1soNNN said:
I use Verizon hotspot since I don't care about unlimited data and saved a ton of money switching to the share everything plan....
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I did, too. But then I switched to an iPhone because it's more open and has better development.
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I did, too. But then I switched to an iPhone because it's more open and has better development.
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You guys crack me up
But, anyway. If you're using WiFi Tether, can't you just set a security key?
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But, anyway. If you're using WiFi Tether, can't you just set a security key?
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Yes. That is a great point to secure from nearby users. Most programs allow you to use a WiFi password.
Im also wondering how people are handling the "safety" of verizon detecting people tethering when they still have unlimited data and are using something other than the mobile hotspot.
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But, anyway. If you're using WiFi Tether, can't you just set a security key?
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The funny thing is i actually did switch....
haha but yeah its pretty secure
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Yes. That is a great point to secure from nearby users. Most programs allow you to use a WiFi password.
Im also wondering how people are handling the "safety" of verizon detecting people tethering when they still have unlimited data and are using something other than the mobile hotspot.
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From what I understand it's like it's run through a proxy. So I guess as long as you don't tether 10GB in a month they won't pay much attention.
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From what I understand it's like it's run through a proxy. So I guess as long as you don't tether 10GB in a month they won't pay much attention.
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Are you saying than any tethering done from any tethering app (in my case "WiFi tether") runs through a proxy and that makes it undetectable by verizon?
I have not understood it to be that way. From what I understand, when you tether, unless you match the user agent string of your mobile browser, the packets/data can be detected by Verizon and they can potentially terminate your contract for violating its terms. When you use a VPN all of the data is encrypted and therefore there is no way for Verizon to detect the tethering.
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Are you saying than any tethering done from any tethering app (in my case "WiFi tether") runs through a proxy and that makes it undetectable by verizon?
I have not understood it to be that way. From what I understand, when you tether, unless you match the user agent string of your mobile browser, the packets/data can be detected by Verizon and they can potentially terminate your contract for violating its terms. When you use a VPN all of the data is encrypted and therefore there is no way for Verizon to detect the tethering.
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Wait, I just remembered...What's it matter? The FCC just slapped Verizon with a huge fine and told them they can't stop customers from tethering/can't charge them, correct?
Ive tethered with pdanet n wifi tether for two years now, tethered more than ten gigs....no issues yet
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Wait, I just remembered...What's it matter? The FCC just slapped Verizon with a huge fine and told them they can't stop customers from tethering/can't charge them, correct?
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Link please? That would be awesome!
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Link please? That would be awesome!
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/verizon-to-stop-blocking-tethering-apps-settles-with-fcc-for-1/
Here ya go.
Usually PDANet for myself, Wifi Tether for my iPhone friends :highfive:
Just tether we all do it and there is nothing to worry about unless u hit Luke 10 gb all the time or more
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Yeah, don't stress it. WiFi Tether away!
When I moved into my new house last year, it took a few days to get my internet squared away. I just tethered off my phone, and the whole family had reliable internet (as long as I was home, of course). Just make sure your brightness is down and you are plugged into a charger, cuz it drains a battery quick, and the phone will get pretty hot.
PdaNet and USB tether, here. Simple setup, secure, and has built-in cloaking of tether usage.
I just don't get why WiFi tether is such a big deal, unless you want to give away your bandwidth to other people (if you don't use security and password protect). Using USB tether keeps the phone charged while tethering, and is the most secure. Win-win-win situation, if you ask me.
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PdaNet and USB tether, here. Simple setup, secure, and has built-in cloaking of tether usage.
I just don't get why WiFi tether is such a big deal, unless you want to give away your bandwidth to other people (if you don't use security and password protect). Using USB tether keeps the phone charged while tethering, and is the most secure. Win-win-win situation, if you ask me.
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It's quite easy to secure, plugging into a wall charges it better, and you don't have to install any software or drivers on the device you are trying to tether. Win, win, and win for me.
As for the overall topic, I don't do anything other than run Wifi Tether. Currently, we're tethering the whole house because our uVerse is out of service after a storm.
Hey all,
What's the best / more reliable means to tether on the AT&T HTC One m8?
I've been trying with the Wifi Tether app but no luck on the right config yet. Also, it's probably worth mentioning that I'm on the Skyfall ROM (fully rooted, s-off, etc.)
Thanks!
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What's the best / more reliable means to tether on the AT&T HTC One m8?
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What's "built in" is pretty reliable. You might consider concentrating on getting the "built in" to work instead of adding another layer of complexity. Which firmware is "skyfall" based on? (perhaps give a link to the dev thread.)
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What's "built in" is pretty reliable. You might consider concentrating on getting the "built in" to work instead of adding another layer of complexity. Which firmware is "skyfall" based on? (perhaps give a link to the dev thread.)
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isn't there a charge for the built-in functionality?
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isn't there a charge for the built-in functionality?
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Are you using the stock AT&T firmware? If so, then your account has to be provisioned for tethering. There are ways around this... Also, depending on which data plan you have with AT&T, tethering might be included.
(Example of a way around it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2733561)
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Are you using the stock AT&T firmware? If so, then your account has to be provisioned for tethering. There are ways around this... Also, depending on which data plan you have with AT&T, tethering might be included.
(Example of a way around it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2733561)
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I'm using the Skyfall ROM so I don't think so... (unsure really).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2702074
I'll play with it some more - I had made the assumption that if I used the "stock / built-in" feature there would be a charge for it and it sounds like that's not the case.
Thanks guys!
Testing
So I'm doing some testing using the built in app and it appears that while it works, I think AT&T might be throttling the connection.
I tested using a Bluetooth tether connection as well as using a Wifi Tether.
I'm both cases, I'm getting rougly 1.5-2 mbps download and 1 mbps upload speeds in my tests. Despite when I'm using the bluetooth tether having access to a Wifi network that's capable of 100 mbps up and down.
I'm using a 2013 macbook air to test with which has Bluetooth v4.2.
I believe it's throttled because I'm seeing nearly the same rates with both bluetooth and Wifi tethering. I definitely know the Wifi connection is much, much faster. For example, if I disconnect the Tether and connect directly to the Wifi AP, I get 96 mbps down and 47 mbps up.
Is there a mod to remove the throttle or an alternative?
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I had made the assumption that if I used the "stock / built-in" feature there would be a charge for it and it sounds like that's not the case.
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What is installed on the phone is not going to dictate whether AT&T finds out if you are tethering or not. The stock AT&T ROM will simply block tethering if you don't have a tethering plan. Tethering hack or simply installing any non-AT&T based ROM circumvents this. I just use the stock WiFi hotspot application.
Can't say whether they throttle tethered data or not. But my gut feeling is no. And again, any such measures would likely be network based, and probably can't be circumvented simply by using a different tethering app.
What is your data speed when not tethering (measure on the phone)?
AT&T's way for detecting tethering isn't based on what app you use for it... It's based on packet header examination. If you only use it occasionally, they usually won't look. (I used it for years without being detected... but only very lightly.)