I am wondering what people are doing for furthering with regards to protecting themselves. I guess most of this stems from a fear of losing my unlimited data plan. Ideally, I would like to tether over a VPN connection to encrypt all my data from anyone even seeing what type it is....but since the default pptp VPN on android does not allow you to browse over VPN from a tethered client, I am wondering what people are doing (if anything) to protect themselves.
Nothing, straight tether
Spoof mobile user agent string on client
ROM that has the kernel changed to allow browsing over pptp VPN connection
Browsing over L2tp VPN
I usually tether with USB, and that's supposed to be more discreet. I've thought about using WiFi tether, but I don't see the point unless I'm trying to connect multiple devices, then I would have to consider finding something to cover up that many devices.
I use Verizon hotspot since I don't care about unlimited data and saved a ton of money switching to the share everything plan....
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I use Verizon hotspot since I don't care about unlimited data and saved a ton of money switching to the share everything plan....
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Lol....funniest thing I've read today..
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I use Verizon hotspot since I don't care about unlimited data and saved a ton of money switching to the share everything plan....
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I did, too. But then I switched to an iPhone because it's more open and has better development.
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I did, too. But then I switched to an iPhone because it's more open and has better development.
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You guys crack me up
But, anyway. If you're using WiFi Tether, can't you just set a security key?
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But, anyway. If you're using WiFi Tether, can't you just set a security key?
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Yes. That is a great point to secure from nearby users. Most programs allow you to use a WiFi password.
Im also wondering how people are handling the "safety" of verizon detecting people tethering when they still have unlimited data and are using something other than the mobile hotspot.
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But, anyway. If you're using WiFi Tether, can't you just set a security key?
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The funny thing is i actually did switch....
haha but yeah its pretty secure
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Yes. That is a great point to secure from nearby users. Most programs allow you to use a WiFi password.
Im also wondering how people are handling the "safety" of verizon detecting people tethering when they still have unlimited data and are using something other than the mobile hotspot.
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From what I understand it's like it's run through a proxy. So I guess as long as you don't tether 10GB in a month they won't pay much attention.
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From what I understand it's like it's run through a proxy. So I guess as long as you don't tether 10GB in a month they won't pay much attention.
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Are you saying than any tethering done from any tethering app (in my case "WiFi tether") runs through a proxy and that makes it undetectable by verizon?
I have not understood it to be that way. From what I understand, when you tether, unless you match the user agent string of your mobile browser, the packets/data can be detected by Verizon and they can potentially terminate your contract for violating its terms. When you use a VPN all of the data is encrypted and therefore there is no way for Verizon to detect the tethering.
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Are you saying than any tethering done from any tethering app (in my case "WiFi tether") runs through a proxy and that makes it undetectable by verizon?
I have not understood it to be that way. From what I understand, when you tether, unless you match the user agent string of your mobile browser, the packets/data can be detected by Verizon and they can potentially terminate your contract for violating its terms. When you use a VPN all of the data is encrypted and therefore there is no way for Verizon to detect the tethering.
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Wait, I just remembered...What's it matter? The FCC just slapped Verizon with a huge fine and told them they can't stop customers from tethering/can't charge them, correct?
Ive tethered with pdanet n wifi tether for two years now, tethered more than ten gigs....no issues yet
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Wait, I just remembered...What's it matter? The FCC just slapped Verizon with a huge fine and told them they can't stop customers from tethering/can't charge them, correct?
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Link please? That would be awesome!
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Link please? That would be awesome!
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/verizon-to-stop-blocking-tethering-apps-settles-with-fcc-for-1/
Here ya go.
Usually PDANet for myself, Wifi Tether for my iPhone friends :highfive:
Just tether we all do it and there is nothing to worry about unless u hit Luke 10 gb all the time or more
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Yeah, don't stress it. WiFi Tether away!
When I moved into my new house last year, it took a few days to get my internet squared away. I just tethered off my phone, and the whole family had reliable internet (as long as I was home, of course). Just make sure your brightness is down and you are plugged into a charger, cuz it drains a battery quick, and the phone will get pretty hot.
PdaNet and USB tether, here. Simple setup, secure, and has built-in cloaking of tether usage.
I just don't get why WiFi tether is such a big deal, unless you want to give away your bandwidth to other people (if you don't use security and password protect). Using USB tether keeps the phone charged while tethering, and is the most secure. Win-win-win situation, if you ask me.
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PdaNet and USB tether, here. Simple setup, secure, and has built-in cloaking of tether usage.
I just don't get why WiFi tether is such a big deal, unless you want to give away your bandwidth to other people (if you don't use security and password protect). Using USB tether keeps the phone charged while tethering, and is the most secure. Win-win-win situation, if you ask me.
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It's quite easy to secure, plugging into a wall charges it better, and you don't have to install any software or drivers on the device you are trying to tether. Win, win, and win for me.
As for the overall topic, I don't do anything other than run Wifi Tether. Currently, we're tethering the whole house because our uVerse is out of service after a storm.
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after rooting the htc thunderbolt can we use the wifi tether app for root users to tether for free? and will it be at 4g speeds. sorry if this was answered already, and thanks for the info.
Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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thank you. i knew we had like a free trial period with the hot spot app, isnt that gonna cancel out soon? i wanna be able to use the wifi tether like i did with my motorola droid it was so handy having that option. thanks again..
The free hotspot thing ends on May 15th. Then you gotta pay.
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Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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yup...4g speeds a little slower through the tether but it still beats Comcast
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Be careful, Big Red (and others) is watching. Wireless tether, easy tether, and PDAnet have all been removed from the market for VZW customers. I am sure a quick Google search will find the apks to download, but I think part of what is pushing carriers to demand locked bootloaders is people abusing rooted tethering. I can’t say that I agree since I am paying for the data so it should not matter if I use it through my phone or laptop, but there have been rumblings of problems such as data throttles for heavy data users.
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Be careful, Big Red (and others) is watching. Wireless tether, easy tether, and PDAnet have all been removed from the market for VZW customers. I am sure a quick Google search will find the apks to download, but I think part of what is pushing carriers to demand locked bootloaders is people abusing rooted tethering. I can’t say that I agree since I am paying for the data so it should not matter if I use it through my phone or laptop, but there have been rumblings of problems such as data throttles for heavy data users.
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I don't agree with them, but I think the rationale is the buffet metaphor... you can't pay for the buffet and invite 5 friends to share your meal. I think this is a big part of why (to my knowledge) USB tethering isn't being targeted. Wifi tethering is like sharing with 5 friends, USB tethering is bringing your own plate and silverware.
Honestly I'd prefer a "do what you want, tethering or not" approach that included a X GB limit over this "unlimited, but we decide how you use it" crap.
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Yes yes and yes it has been answered. You can also use the mobile hotspot app that came on the phone for free without root
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I hear the free unrooted mobile hotspot is only free for a few more weeks.
All you have to do to download Wireless Tether or any other apps blocked by Verizon is put your phone into Airplane Mode and then turn on WiFi. As long as you have a WiFi signal with the phone in Airplane Mode, you will have accessibility to all blocked Apps in the Market, even if your phone is not rooted!
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All you have to do to download Wireless Tether or any other apps blocked by Verizon is put your phone into Airplane Mode and then turn on WiFi. As long as you have a WiFi signal with the phone in Airplane Mode, you will have accessibility to all blocked Apps in the Market, even if your phone is not rooted!
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That's awesome to know. Tried and verified
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I don't agree with them, but I think the rationale is the buffet metaphor... you can't pay for the buffet and invite 5 friends to share your meal. I think this is a big part of why (to my knowledge) USB tethering isn't being targeted. Wifi tethering is like sharing with 5 friends, USB tethering is bringing your own plate and silverware.
Honestly I'd prefer a "do what you want, tethering or not" approach that included a X GB limit over this "unlimited, but we decide how you use it" crap.
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Personally, I don't like that companies are moving toward the "buffet" approach to providing internet access. I have AT&T DSL. They provide me with an internet connection. PERIOD. They don't give me the internet connection and then say only use this on one computer nor do they say I'm not allowerd to hook it up to my Linksys router. It makes more sense to me that way. Maxing out my connection speed on one machine would be equivalent to me maxing it out across several.
Hi,
maybe it is a stupid question, but how do they (verizon) technically find out that someone tether over 3G, when you have a unlimited data plan (3G) and use 3G normaly from your phone to download? What is the difference between the data that comes over 3G when I download the same pdf to phone or over wifi/3G tether to the iPad ? It makes no sense to me.
Thanks for your answers
The amount of data you use is one method. The other is that they are building in tethering monitoring to the kernels that sends a message to the system that you're tethering.
I know for the DX/D2 the leak of GB from Verizon actually had a tether detection and every time you tried to tether, weather it was barnicle or wireless tether it would redirect you to Verizons website and asked if you wanted to tether to pay another fee ....idk if it will happen with this phone is VZ does decide to push out a GB for us ...
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I know for the DX/D2 the leak of GB from Verizon actually had a tether detection and every time you tried to tether, weather it was barnicle or wireless tether it would redirect you to Verizons website and asked if you wanted to tether to pay another fee ....idk if it will happen with this phone is VZ does decide to push out a GB for us ...
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The Fascinate has "hidden" tether protection that we have bypassed thanks to the kernel sources, but it is there in the stock kernel.
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The amount of data you use is one method. The other is that they are building in tethering monitoring to the kernels that sends a message to the system that you're tethering.
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So there is a program that work in the background sending data to the carrier when you use Wifi and 3G at the same time ?
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So there is a program that work in the background sending data to the carrier when you use Wifi and 3G at the same time ?
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Either a program/service within the framework, or a special command/method is used to notify the network that you're tethering.
But if we are using a ROM such as Evil Fascination or Community then they wouldn't be able to tell because of the custom kernels that come with them right?
Yes, the custom kernels all have it bypassed as far as I am aware. At least we think that we have bypassed it.
Thanks for the information, its very interesting . If I am understand it right, there is a part of it in the ROM and a second in the kernel. They have to work together, if one of the parts missing like in a custom kernel it prevent the phone from sending ?
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Yes, the custom kernels all have it bypassed as far as I am aware. At least we think that we have bypassed it.
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Even if you're using verizon's 3G mobile hotspot app? Or do you have to download a different wireless tethering app? (Which we can't cause verizon blocked all of them from the market lol)
Wifi tethering apps aren't hidden in the market for me....
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Wifi tethering apps aren't hidden in the market for me....
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No apps are hidden ....only one that was taken off was Wireless Tether and thats was a long time ago ...the rest are still there
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Yes, the custom kernels all have it bypassed as far as I am aware. At least we think that we have bypassed it.
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I work for an indirect sales and have access to Verizon and ill test to see if Verizon recognizes any tethering downloads...I know they can definitely tell whats tethered and whats not....will report back with confirmation tomorrow
edit:will test CM and Stock just to see how much is visible to them
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Hi,
maybe it is a stupid question, but how do they (verizon) technically find out that someone tether over 3G, when you have a unlimited data plan (3G) and use 3G normaly from your phone to download? What is the difference between the data that comes over 3G when I download the same pdf to phone or over wifi/3G tether to the iPad ? It makes no sense to me.
Thanks for your answers
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I know from working on a customers account that info your asking is clearly defined under current usage tab in our system...it divides the data used into smartphone usage and tethered usage...assuming they considered tether in the sense of hardwired and wireless...yes it is crazy what we can see from your phone reporting to us....will the system know? yes....will someone at verizon care? probably, are they going to pick thru every little customers account who has EVER tether and charge them? probably not....just dont poke the bear and you'll be fine...
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I work for an indirect sales and have access to Verizon and ill test to see if Verizon recognizes any tethering downloads...I know they can definitely tell whats tethered and whats not....will report back with confirmation tomorrow
edit:will test CM and Stock just to see how much is visible to them
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....and what is the difference?
mkzbdroid said:
I know from working on a customers account that info your asking is clearly defined under current usage tab in our system...it divides the data used into smartphone usage and tethered usage...assuming they considered tether in the sense of hardwired and wireless...yes it is crazy what we can see from your phone reporting to us....will the system know? yes....will someone at verizon care? probably, are they going to pick thru every little customers account who has EVER tether and charge them? probably not....just dont poke the bear and you'll be fine...
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hopefully they dont change it where that tethered usage is automatically added to your bill. im on comm rom so it shouldnt affect me but those that arent should be careful or consider a custom rom
from what I had read at one time on ATT's tethering crackdown, the system was easily able to tell due to one little piece... the TTL.
here's a quote and more info on it... probably pertains to verizon as well.
For all you wondering how they can tell:
All IP packets have something called a TTL associated with them. It stands for Time To Live. Every "hop" along the network from one router to the next reduces the TTL by one. When it reaches 0, the packet is dropped. This was introduced to keep routing problems from overloading the network. If for example, by some error a packet was going around in a circular path, the TTL would eventually reach 0 and prevent a packet storm.
The thing is, ALL routing devices do this. OSes use standard TTLs. For example, let's say both your iPhone and laptop use 127 for the TTL. AT&T will receive packets from your iPhone with a TTL of 127, but since the packets from your laptop pass through your iPhone first, they arrive at AT&T with a TTL of 126. They can detect a tethered device this way.
EDIT: Some people below have suggested changing the default TTL of their tethered device (which is possible). I would just like to point out that the max TTL allowed is 255, and if the iPhone uses 255 as its default TTL, well there's no way you can set it to 256.
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I'm not sure if our android tethering apps take this into account and change the TTL of the traffic on the fly or not... would be interesting to test out though...
How can i get free wifi tethering on my att galaxy s2?
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How can i get free wifi tethering on my att galaxy s2?
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You can root it and use barnacle, or use the hotspot feature under the "wireless and network settings" if AT&T hasn't disabled it. I was planning on getting one earlier today, but wasn't able to get to the store before work.
Check the settings and see if "Tethering & portable hotspot" feature is there. If it is it will just use your regular data plan.
Ok thanks im going to just wait for a root to come out.
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wifi hotspot has not been disabled on my sgs2, not rooted
When I picked up my phone at AT&T they asked me if I wanted the family (?) tether plan for $45/mo. I said no. When I checked the phone at home, the tether option was there, so is it cool to tether the phone without getting a nasty gram?
brianlp said:
When I picked up my phone at AT&T they asked me if I wanted the family (?) tether plan for $45/mo. I said no. When I checked the phone at home, the tether option was there, so is it cool to tether the phone without getting a nasty gram?
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The moment you turn that on and start using it you will get a notice that you will need to change to that tether plan. Unless you get PDAnet or root the phone and use one of those apps.
I rooted , used Titanium Backup and froze tethering manager app, wifi tethering now works fine with my android tablet.
Bob
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rbtconsultants said:
I rooted , used Titanium Backup and froze tethering manager app, wifi tethering now works fine with my android tablet.
Bob
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Any link to rooting the AT&T version? Want to root and use the built in tether. As of now, when you try to use the tether it will say you need to have the tether option. Don't want to pay the extra for using it a few times a month.
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The moment you turn that on and start using it you will get a notice that you will need to change to that tether plan. Unless you get PDAnet or root the phone and use one of those apps.
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Yep, you're right. I just tried it.
I guess I root.
You need to root the phone and unintall the Tethering Manager in order to use the built-in tethering features without paying for it.
Just remember that a lot of people have been getting nastygrams from AT&T even without interference from tethering manager. There has been a lot of speculation as to the cause, but naive tethering is detectable in a number of ways, so don't be surprised if they suddenly decide to up your bill by $20.
Has anyone actually used Barnacle with this phone?
I rooted and installed Barnacle, which has to be downloaded from their site because it is blocked in Market. I start Barnacle and it has SU privilege, but no device can see the hotspot it creates. Even when I create the WiFi network there is no connection.
I'm having the same problem as far as my phone telling me I need a tethering plan. So I called At&t & they said I'd have to basically lose my grandfathered in plan of Unlimited just so I can surf the net for an extra $45 a mnth!! WTF!! I Didn't have this problem with my Cappy.. Wut to friggin do?? Can't root without Internet?? Someone please help a brother out!!
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I'm having the same problem as far as my phone telling me I need a tethering plan. So I called At&t & they said I'd have to basically lose my grandfathered in plan of Unlimited just so I can surf the net for an extra $45 a mnth!! WTF!! I Didn't have this problem with my Cappy.. Wut to friggin do?? Can't root without Internet?? Someone please help a brother out!!
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If you want to tether without paying for it, you have to root and freeze/remove tethering manager, or use a third-party app. Plus, you still risk AT&T slapping you with the overpriced tethering plan if they catch you. Not really sure there is anything you can do.
I figured as much. I never had a problem up til today when I got my new Gs2. I don't tether much at all to be honest with you. But at&t screwed me cause now I'm without Internet so I can't root even if I wanted to. I think I have no choice but to get a wireless Internet card til I root & find a decent ROM. Thanks a bunch for the advice though.. Much appreciated!!
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Cappy users are getting nailed right and left, same for Infuse users.
I've been OK, but so far I've only tethered Android tablets (Galaxy Tab 10.1) in the past month or two.
Entropy512 said:
Cappy users are getting nailed right and left, same for Infuse users.
I've been OK, but so far I've only tethered Android tablets (Galaxy Tab 10.1) in the past month or two.
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Earlier this year I used the hotspot on my Dell Streak to tether my laptop for an entire week. Never heard anything from AT&T. It has a stock ROM from another region and is rooted. I haven't unloaded any stock apps on it.
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Has anyone actually used Barnacle with this phone?
I rooted and installed Barnacle, which has to be downloaded from their site because it is blocked in Market. I start Barnacle and it has SU privilege, but no device can see the hotspot it creates. Even when I create the WiFi network there is no connection.
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You don't necessarily have to download it from their site. If you have a wifi connection you should be able to put the phone in airplane mode, turn on wifi, and connect that way. Either that or remove the sim card and get on wifi. As long as the sim is either removed or disabled and you are on wifi the market will not be filtered.
Maybe you're trying to connect devices to it that can either only see an infrastructure mode access point or are set to only connect to those. My laptop didn't see mine at first, but then I changed the setting in the wireless to show all types of connections (ad-hoc and infrastructure) and it worked. I had to actually modify the wifi_supplicant file on my moto Xoom for it to see ad-hoc connections.
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Any link to rooting the AT&T version? Want to root and use the built in tether. As of now, when you try to use the tether it will say you need to have the tether option. Don't want to pay the extra for using it a few times a month.
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This one worked perfectly for me and I didn't need to use SuperOneClick after loading it as it was already rooted. Go here.
I never had any issues or nasty-grams from AT&T for wifi tether, but I only used it when I needed too which honestly, wasn't too often.
Could you possibly get a mobile 3G network on the SGP 5.0?
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Well, since there is no 3g antenna, that means there is no possible way to get 3g, unless you buy a mobile hotspot.
Mobile hotspot or phone with wifi tethering.
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Could you possibly get a mobile 3G network on the SGP 5.0?
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If your on AT&T and have a non-smart phone Samsung Mythic... you can tether it to your iPod Touch (granted you have one) and make an Ad-Hoc network with it via the wireless, then connect to it on your SGP. Battery life is fantastic so you can just keep the other two devices (the phone and iPod) in a backpack or something near you. Tedious but it works, especially since the data is unlimited on a non-smartphone plan (and they don't notice, or at least haven't for the last 2 years) if you Bluetooth DUN tether.
How would i tether my SGP To a phone?
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Mobile hotspot or phone with wifi tethering.
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How do i tether to a blackberry.
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How do i tether to a blackberry.
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As far as I know, bluetooth tethering won't work with Android. So you'd need a phone with WiFi to share the 3G connection over. If your blackberry doesn't have WiFi, you'd need another device that does as the middle-man. Which becomes a bit of a hassle.
Google your phone and it's modem and make sure you won't get any extra charges for tethering (most phones WILL lead to charges without a tethering plan on unlimited data, but some seem to be hidden). And if you do, just pay for a tethering plan I suppose.
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As far as I know, bluetooth tethering won't work with Android. So you'd need a phone with WiFi to share the 3G connection over. If your blackberry doesn't have WiFi, you'd need another device that does as the middle-man. Which becomes a bit of a hassle.
Google your phone and it's modem and make sure you won't get any extra charges for tethering (most phones WILL lead to charges without a tethering plan on unlimited data, but some seem to be hidden). And if you do, just pay for a tethering plan I suppose.
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I have unlimeted data and yes my bb does have wifi
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I have unlimeted data and yes my bb does have wifi
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Then there is probably a guide somewhere on how to share it, I don't know whether or not AT&T will see it though, so be warned, I wouldn't risk a smartphone unlimited plan for that kind of thing. In my case, I pay for non-smartphone unlimited data and tether it so I don't really lose anything if I'm caught (It's been over 2 years so far) since it's like $10/month for AT&T 3G HSDPA.
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Then there is probably a guide somewhere on how to share it, I don't know whether or not AT&T will see it though, so be warned, I wouldn't risk a smartphone unlimited plan for that kind of thing. In my case, I pay for non-smartphone unlimited data and tether it so I don't really lose anything if I'm caught (It's been over 2 years so far) since it's like $10/month for AT&T 3G HSDPA.
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Dont use AT&T im British, but yes my bb is a smartphone. Does that mean there will be extra costs even if i do get unlimeted data?
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As far as I know, bluetooth tethering won't work with Android. So you'd need a phone with WiFi to share the 3G connection over. If your blackberry doesn't have WiFi, you'd need another device that does as the middle-man. Which becomes a bit of a hassle.
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There is an app called "Nook Color Tether" which is supposed to do Bluetooth tethering. I've got it installed but not yet tested it, but it might be worth a look.
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There is an app called "Nook Color Tether" which is supposed to do Bluetooth tethering. I've got it installed but not yet tested it, but it might be worth a look.
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Can i get it on the blackberry or do i have to install on player?
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I think Bluthtooth dun will help. But I never success.
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Can i get it on the blackberry or do i have to install on player?
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I don't think Bluetooth DUN is possible over Android. I know it is on iOS, but I don't think anyone has gotten it to work with non-Android phones (like a Blackberry or my Samsung featurephone).
You could use your BlackBerry to make a Wireless network, but that COULD impose extra charges depending on your carrier (AT&T charges a good $10+ extra (can't remember the exact).
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I don't think Bluetooth DUN is possible over Android. I know it is on iOS, but I don't think anyone has gotten it to work with non-Android phones (like a Blackberry or my Samsung featurephone).
You could use your BlackBerry to make a Wireless network, but that COULD impose extra charges depending on your carrier (AT&T charges a good $10+ extra (can't remember the exact).
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I have pda net but i do not know how to set up, it may not even work.
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Will it cost.
That depends on the Carrier. Here in the states AT&T requires that you go to a new plan (limited) and charges you for the privilage of sharing your data. Or you can try CM's new undetectable tethering as it is done at a lower level than the providers see.
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That depends on the Carrier. Here in the states AT&T requires that you go to a new plan (limited) and charges you for the privilage of sharing your data. Or you can try CM's new undetectable tethering as it is done at a lower level than the providers see.
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Interesting, have more info on this? Considering that AT&T detects tethering using browser useragent now (DO NOT USE Dolphin HD or any other browser that uses a desktop useragent on AT&T if you're on an unlimited plan!), there's no way to do undetectable tethering without an encrypted VPN.
To others - whether tethering costs you depends on your carrier. If you're in North America, it's basically guaranteed that your provider wants you to get a special tethering plan. It's usually possible to get around this, but as discussed above - providers try really hard to find ways to bust you. Tethering a Player should not cause any of the AT&T triggers discussed above though - I've been tethering my Tab 10.1 for ages without issue.
Can mod 3G for SGP with external devices???
datrang007 said:
Can mod 3G for SGP with external devices???
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The bottom line is No. This device DOES NOT have a hidden/internal antenna and you can't mod it to have one. "External devices" would be a hotspot or cell phone that is sharing it's connection via tethering. Though I wouldn't consider that "3G for SGP", more like, "WiFi for SGP" since that's all it is; You can't make calls over the voice network through that data through your normal phone.
Kind of a silly question in general heh, but unless you go through a good deal of trouble to either get a hotspot device and carry it around, or do the Phone -> iPod Touch -> SGP thing I do; There really isn't any other way to do this.
I have an Optimus phone. Just added a Widgetsoid2 Hotspot toggle, push the button, and presto SGP connected. It is against terms of service on Virgin Mobile, but I plan on getting rid of my phone and getting Truconnect mifi. $5/mo Hotspot (plus .039 per mb). I use less than 100mb on 3G now that I have my SGP5.
You can make calls on wifi or 3G with GrooveIP. That's all I use on wifi, and I tested it tethered to my phone and also works fine.
Hey there,
Has anyone tried the ##778 hack to enable Wifi Hotspot tethering on the DINC4G?? Does it work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122289
You could also try clockwork mod tether. I don't know how well it works personally, but I've heard good things
Just use one of the wifi tether apps like pdanet or easytether. works great for me.
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Just use one of the wifi tether apps like pdanet or easytether. works great for me.
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Thanks for the reply's guys. I actually do have EZ-Tether and use it with my laptop when necessary. But I also need a wireless option when I pass internet connectivity to an RTK GPS survey controller from my work supplied DINC2. Since its a work phone, rooting/romming isn't an available option.
The old hack method let me run under the radar on several fronts if you know what I mean. I just wanted to find out if the old hack was still available before trading up to the Inc4G.
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looks like the FCC just ruled that they can't charge for tethering so maybe you can just use the built in option.
Not sure how verizon is going to change due to this ruling.
They will still get you on data usage
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The FCC only said they couldn't block tethering apps from the Play Store. There's a big difference there.
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The FCC only said they couldn't block tethering apps from the Play Store. There's a big difference there.
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No (according to the article I read) Verizon also agreed not charge for tethering. The article however said that this would only apply to 4G non-unlimited plans which is the case now anyways I believe. I did not see anything that specifically said they can't charge it for unlimited or 3g accounts but I guess they prob still will
it's so weird actually using the verizon mobile hotspot lol.
how does this work now? itried it it gave me an 800 number to call??
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how does this work now? itried it it gave me an 800 number to call??
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me too at first, did you get rid of the unlimteed data, and on a shared everything?
if so u get the free mobile data, i just opened it and pressed it and it worked.
it didnt at first but that was because initially i kept my unlimted plan (when i didnt want to) and the guy screwed up (good thing I happened to have called CS)
it saves our family of 4 smart phones 80$ a MONTH!!!
I don't ever need unlimited, I pay for wifi at my house so I take advantage of that and the batt savings.
only use 4g when needed.
I finally moved the cable modem into my room the wifi crappy netgear wifi thing for my desktop blows!
if for vista, i upgraded to wiindows 7, that was a fiasco, then i upgrade my comp from 2GB RAM to 6.5GB and apparaently anything over $GB the wifi wont work.
took me all day of google searching to find the hacked code.
i even to this day have to start my computer a special way to disable signature something to get the wifi to work, happy dont have to do that crap anymore. lol
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me too at first, did you get rid of the unlimteed data, and on a shared everything?
if so u get the free mobile data, i just opened it and pressed it and it worked.
it didnt at first but that was because initially i kept my unlimted plan (when i didnt want to) and the guy screwed up (good thing I happened to have called CS)
it saves our family of 4 smart phones 80$ a MONTH!!!
I don't ever need unlimited, I pay for wifi at my house so I take advantage of that and the batt savings.
only use 4g when needed.
I finally moved the cable modem into my room the wifi crappy netgear wifi thing for my desktop blows!
if for vista, i upgraded to wiindows 7, that was a fiasco, then i upgrade my comp from 2GB RAM to 6.5GB and apparaently anything over $GB the wifi wont work.
took me all day of google searching to find the hacked code.
i even to this day have to start my computer a special way to disable signature something to get the wifi to work, happy dont have to do that crap anymore. lol
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i never had unlimited data, 2gb, not on shared plan, i have unlimited sms, 1400mins, thats it
now do i understand that the data is free that you use on hotspot?
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gotta look into this, thats for sure
Grandfathered in on unlimited...any way to get around Verizon Tether charge?
Hey guys, I am grandfathered in on my Dinc 4g and wanted to know if anyone is able to get around the wifi tethering charge from Verizon while we wait for root access?
Thanks for starting this thread!
sboeckman said:
Hey guys, I am grandfathered in on my Dinc 4g and wanted to know if anyone is able to get around the wifi tethering charge from Verizon while we wait for root access?
Thanks for starting this thread!
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foxfi on the market with the proxy addon works for me.
then set your proxy settings in internet options to 192.168.43.1
port 8000- if it's applicable to your region, it tells you in the directions.
Aldo101t said:
foxfi on the market with the proxy addon works for me.
then set your proxy settings in internet options to 192.168.43.1
port 8000- if it's applicable to your region, it tells you in the directions.
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The FoxFi with proxy addon works well, but it it's limited to http/https protocols, and your device that you are tethering must have an option to set up proxy settings. If you need other protocols, you will need a USB tether option.
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junkmail9 said:
The FoxFi with proxy addon works well, but it it's limited to http/https protocols, and your device that you are tethering must have an option to set up proxy settings. If you need other protocols, you will need a USB tether option.
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Hmm does ics have the ability to change proxies? I just want to watch netflix on my Asus transformer using my phones internet.
So far I've gotten Open Garden to work between my incredible 4g, my Asus EeePC, and my Toshiba thrive tablet. It's a pretty cool app, and it's evolving. There are limitations.
Currently it uses Bluetooth, and they are planning on supporting WiFi. If your using it on a PC it only works with the browser (I've used it with Firefox). When first connecting my Asus to my Incredible it wasn't taking. I messed around with it, and added my tablet and then they all connected. After the first connection it now automatically connects if the app is running on both devices.
If you want more info Google open garden.
radon222 said:
Hey there,
Has anyone tried the ##778 hack to enable Wifi Hotspot tethering on the DINC4G?? Does it work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122289
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Tried the old hack as soon as I got the phone. Unfortunately, it does not work.
Connectify is another option (if you have the right hardware), never gave me a bsod. People probably get it because they have the wrong hardware. I had the right hardware and had to do this when I had a Rooted Motorola Droid/Milestone (which is in the garbage since it broke), cause it's wifi tether was ad-hoc only. (Still never failed me)
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So far I've gotten Open Garden to work between my incredible 4g, my Asus EeePC, and my Toshiba thrive tablet. It's a pretty cool app, and it's evolving. There are limitations.
Currently it uses Bluetooth, and they are planning on supporting WiFi. If your using it on a PC it only works with the browser (I've used it with Firefox). When first connecting my Asus to my Incredible it wasn't taking. I messed around with it, and added my tablet and then they all connected. After the first connection it now automatically connects if the app is running on both devices.
If you want more info Google open garden.
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I wouldn't use tethering apps that require gps (especially assisted gps).
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Sperovita said:
So far I've gotten Open Garden to work between my incredible 4g, my Asus EeePC, and my Toshiba thrive tablet. It's a pretty cool app, and it's evolving. There are limitations.
Currently it uses Bluetooth, and they are planning on supporting WiFi. If your using it on a PC it only works with the browser (I've used it with Firefox). When first connecting my Asus to my Incredible it wasn't taking. I messed around with it, and added my tablet and then they all connected. After the first connection it now automatically connects if the app is running on both devices.
If you want more info Google open garden.
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I got open garden to work on Wi-Fi fine. Just had to tell it the phone was a rezound. Only seeing about 500kbps though.