I've been doing a lot of research on this and it appears that our Razr has a bug that has been plaguing alot of Android phone. The 'suspend' bug. I noticed my phone was using alot of battery just sitting overnight. Sometime I'd wake up and it would be dead, which didn't make any sense. So I dl'd Watchdog to see what was killing the batt and it would get a warning about a 'suspend' process. This would pop up several times when the phone was just idle and not being used,with screen off. So I Googled it and there are alot of folks on various Android phones experiencing this problem. Here is a link to one site that is working on it or has been: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
If you do a search on it, there are quite a few places that it's popping up on. I can't figure out how to get it fixed but I do know that this is one reason our phones are not lasting as long as they could. They're being drained when not being used! Now this may affect alot of folks or just some but it's a definate problem, I know on my phone it sure is!
I've also noticed there's a huge drain in battery use coming android is. Hope there's a fix for this.
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I've been doing a lot of research on this and it appears that our Razr has a bug that has been plaguing alot of Android phone. The 'suspend' bug. I noticed my phone was using alot of battery just sitting overnight. Sometime I'd wake up and it would be dead, which didn't make any sense. So I dl'd Watchdog to see what was killing the batt and it would get a warning about a 'suspend' process. This would pop up several times when the phone was just idle and not being used,with screen off. So I Googled it and there are alot of folks on various Android phones experiencing this problem. Here is a link to one site that is working on it or has been: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
If you do a search on it, there are quite a few places that it's popping up on. I can't figure out how to get it fixed but I do know that this is one reason our phones are not lasting as long as they could. They're being drained when not being used! Now this may affect alot of folks or just some but it's a definate problem, I know on my phone it sure is!
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What is the full name of the program? Could you possibly freeze it in TB?
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What is the full name of the program? Could you possibly freeze it in TB?
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It's not a program but a process of the Android OS. It's likely part of the rom for the razr like a setting that motorola stuck in that prevents the low-power cycle that should happen when you put in sleep mode. Probably could be fixed once people start making roms or if they roll out that OTA for icecream sandwich.
Same here, hope this gets fixed soon .
And as I have pointed out in other threads, having Wifi connected magnifies this problem quite a lot (for my phone at least). If I use CPU Spy to monitor sleep time, if Wifi is connected, I get almost zero sleep time even if the screen is always off.
What I've found for battery drain with screen off:
Wifi on, cell data off (using smart actions): 4%/hour
Wifi off, only 3g data on: 1-2%/hour
4g falls in between somewhere.
It would be great if Juice Defender could be programmed to deal with this Suspend Process.
Which watchdog did you install? the free version. I would like to confirm this and I suggest others do as well.
Yea just using the free version of Watchdog. Make sure you enable the search Android processes also.
BetterBatteryStats shows it as well under "Process"
I'm also having this issue. I was getting really good battery life (compared to my work phone, an Evo) for the first few weeks and then all a sudden the battery bombed on me. The standard Android battery use info only showed "Android OS" as the culprit (and would show like 60-80% as of late) of battery going to it. I downloaded Watchdog Lite and then this morning after I had the phone off the charger it was giving me the alert that the suspend process exceeded threshold of 51%.
I DO use wifi and that was actually helping with battery, but I have it set to not use when screen is off. Now, that being said if suspend is hanging on it trying to disable that's one thing, but I've got those settings in juice defender and in the OS config.
I have the exact same issue
I don't know what it is, haven't checked but...I lost 13% overnight in about 8 hours, too much IMO. Still get awesome battery life though, can't imagine if that was gone.
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I lost the same last night. Unplugged for 8 hours. Not turned on. Was awake for first hour at least. Didn't go to suspend mode for awhile
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I have the Razr for about 2 weeks now, and I have yet to get an issue.. However, maybe for the handsets affected, a patch will come out to resolve the issue. Or maybe, just maybe they will just wait and release it complete with ICS for the Razr.
delete.............
Well, I think I figured out what was causing the issue in my case. Anyone else running the app "Screebl"?
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Well, I think I figured out what was causing the issue in my case. Anyone else running the app "Screebl"?
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Yep, use it my Razr.
Anyone experience something (a term I will borrow from the Nook forums, ) "Sleep of Death"? It has happened three times to me on my Razr in two days, although in the last two it hasn't happened.
By SOD I mean that I unplugged the phone from the charger fully charged and within a matter of 25min to 6hours the phone becomes unresponsive . No power button working, plugging into charger, nothing wakes it. The only time it responds is after the hard reboot ( by holding down power and volume - for 10s)
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Yep, use it my Razr.
Anyone experience something (a term I will borrow from the Nook forums, ) "Sleep of Death"? It has happened three times to me on my Razr in two days, although in the last two it hasn't happened.
By SOD I mean that I unplugged the phone from the charger fully charged and within a matter of 25min to 6hours the phone becomes unresponsive . No power button working, plugging into charger, nothing wakes it. The only time it responds is after the hard reboot ( by holding down power and volume - for 10s)
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Well, after disabling Screebl I haven't had anymore wacklock issues. Watch Dog isn't reporting on suspend anymore, and betterbatterystats is now behaving as well.
I also have Android OS taking up to like 46% of my battery. However, I now got around 20 hours battery life with a few txt, calls, music gaming etc since I turned the policy of the Wifi to go off when screen is turned off. Weirdly, it also appears to improve my battery life even when my WiFi is already turned off. Guess you guys can give it a try. But Android OS is the main energy user of my battery. Didn't have that on my Xperia X10
I have two questions:
1. Does anyone know the correlation between CPU usage and battery burn? I'm seeing Suspend consistently burning 3-5% of CPU, but haven't seen how that directly translates into batteyr burn. There should be some sort of mathematical relation between X CPU = Y battery burn.
2. Even though suspend is eating low cpu cycles, the battery dropping 10-15% overnight with nothing going on is still ridiculous. Any ideas on what else the probelm is?
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Some one just tonite asked me how I can possibly get 15+ hours on a single charge using my new Amaze 4G. Just to give you a bit of background, since having the vibrant and the unofficial leaks of Froyo that popped up here and there I was always looking to improve my battery life in every which way while not comprimising my user experiance. For those that dont know, the Vibrant was stuck on Eclair for a really really long time and we resorted to building Froyo roms using the i9000 source which for some reason killed battery like you would believe. After weeks of playing and testing I came to a few generic tips that seem to drastically help (beyond the obvious things you normally would expect).
This is what I personally do and have found to work, you take them or leave them makes no differance to me whatsoever, just friendly suggestions.
The Super Duper Number 1 thing I've found to HUGELY improve my battery life was instead of using gsm (4g/3g/edge) I use Wifi whenever possible. Most of my time is spent at home or work where I have routers. For whatever reason using wifi is less taxing on the battery then gsm. Also changing the wifi sleep policy to never will add to this.
Since i spend most my day inside i keep my brightness relatively low. I do not use auto brightness unless I really need to.
Obviously I keep my gps off unless I absolutely need it.
Sense has some neat power saving features to help with sync settings at certain times... i.e. during my sleeping time, it automatically change my sync to every 2 hours rather then every 15 min like its typically set to during the day.
The few steps above have helped me acheive 15+ hours on a single charge. Some other things that should help even more would be:
Limit the number of widgets you run (especially the ones that constantly update)
Dont use Live Wallpaper
Extend your sync intervals on email and social apps... instead of every 10 move to every 20
make sure when you are away from wifi you turn your wifi off
If you are in an area with poor coverage (especially 4g) turn your data to edge only
Not sure about LCD but on my samoled keeping screen colors to darkest possible (black wallpapers, etc) helps conserve a bit
Change you timeout setting to the lowest you can stand possible (15sec, 30sec)
Avoid task killer apps... let the system do its job or use the built in task killer for those apps you wish to close. (I know the verdict is out on whether they help or not, but I believe using auto app killers does more damage then good, they were designed for old android versions that didnt function the way GB does now)
That's it for now... if I can remember or think of any more I will def post. Like I said you can take or leave my advice. Please do me one favor.... if you DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING POSITIVE TO ADD THEN KEEP YOUR NEGATIVTY TO YOURSELF. It makes for a happier forum! Thanks
how do you access the internal task killer? i havent seen it.. but i see it in the applications when i manage my apps.
and i think the one thing i do wrong is never switch to wifi lol
my previous devices would drain faster on wifi than gsm
but i will give it a try
thanks
I've heard this also WiFi + radio drains more than just radio unless you have a crappy connection then you are better.off with wifi. Gr8 guide tho .... Use less sync people the weather is the same as it was 2h ago.... Unless its raining
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WiFi barely uses any battery. I can 24 hours out my amaze with only WiFi. 4G is a real battery drain
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This is from the Evo forums here>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 <<<
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well.
This was [op]'d by OneStepAhead and take no credit, just reposting to try and help.
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how do you access the internal task killer? i havent seen it.. but i see it in the applications when i manage my apps.
and i think the one thing i do wrong is never switch to wifi lol
my previous devices would drain faster on wifi than gsm
but i will give it a try
thanks
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drag down the notification tab click on quick settings click on total memory.
Radio by itself drains more battery then using wifi + radio... trust me i've been doing it for 2+ years. also had all my team mates do the same and they all confirmed a huge boost in battery. as long as you are CONNECTED to a wifi router it will not drain. now if you leave the wifi and keep it on along with radio on, that will totally demolish your battery. its the constant searching on both parts that eats the most battery. if youre solid connected... its no longer searching.
I did all that and then some and my battery shows 120 to 200 MA in standby . I used to have htc hd2 and it had 3 to 5 MA in standby . I don't know what to disable anymore , Or is this normal for this phone ?
Juice Defender is the best way to conserve battery on any android phone.... try it out on the app market. doing all these other tips you mentioned does help very little. but if you wish to have your battery last a lot longer then Juice Defender is the way to go...
Thanks!! I did all this and got juice defender ultimate
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This is from the Evo forums here>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 <<<
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well.
This was [op]'d by OneStepAhead and take no credit, just reposting to try and help.
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I was going to post the same thing, and found this here - lol. I have been trying this for a few days already.
I will add some minor modifications though. The above was done when devices and batteries were smaller. The 8 hours might be enough - see if the light changes from amber to green by then (or the battery indicator) - otherwise wait.
Then also wait on the 1st 1 hour charge while off if the light is still amber at one hour - wait until it is green. Ditto on the second one.
I did it just like the original above, and when I turned my phone on at the end - it was at 93%, so I plugged it in until it hit 100% for a while, disconnected, and then did a battery calibration (APP) at 100%
Again - I think with the bigger battery it takes longer. on a MT4G, the light was green at the end of each hour (smaller battery).
I have seen a significant improvement - and I already had battery saving profiles set up with SETCPU. I may do it one more time the way I modified it above.
PS - I always get better life on WiFi (If connected). Also, a friend lives in a weak (data) signal area, and when not on WiFi, keeping it on 2g (edge) really upped her life on a MT4G
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Thanks!! I did all this and got juice defender ultimate
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If anyone else is interested, you can get JuiceDefender Ultimate from the Amazon App Store for $1.99 right now.
Yeah i just got that one earlier
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I mainly posted that for proof of concept. The only way I ever got what I wanted out of a battery was through SBC kernels. That's one reason way I am leaving the Evo and switching to the Amaze, outside of the crap Sprint puts customers through.
Is the Ultimate app worth it?
Hell yea it's worth it. Because without it when your device is asleep it's still connected to 4g and whatever else. But with juice defender it turns off everything the moment you put the phone to sleep saving you a lot battery for when you really need to use your phone so yes. Its a must I feel like it should be mandatory on every android phone.
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Hell yea it's worth it. Because without it when your device is asleep it's still connected to 4g and whatever else. But with juice defender it turns off everything the moment you put the phone to sleep saving you a lot battery for when you really need to use your phone so yes. Its a must I feel like it should be mandatory on every android phone.
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x2 on that... It really gives you a longer battery life. and having 2 batteries also extends the life to 24 hours + of not having to sit and wait for a full charged battery.
If you want to see your Sense force closing after every restart + plus having other problems such as frozen clock, etc, then use Juice Defender. After a week of constant problems caused by this app (and I was using it on the Balance mode), I was that close to returning my Amaze, because initially I thought there was some software defect, till one day I googled it and found out the real reason. Uninstalled it and my problems disappeared at once (actually I did a factory reset just to make sure its all gone). Just a fair warning.
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If you want to see your Sense force closing after every restart + plus having other problems such as frozen clock, etc, then use Juice Defender. After a week of constant problems caused by this app (and I was using it on the Balance mode), I was that close to returning my Amaze, because initially I thought there was some software defect, till one day I googled it and found out the real reason. Uninstalled it and my problems disappeared at once (actually I did a factory reset just to make sure its all gone). Just a fair warning.
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Been on it for a week and and I haven't seen those type of problems and I'm using aggressive...
I was using Ultimate v. 3.80, tried it on my girlfriend's phone (she was using the free version before I installed the ultimate), started force closing too (she was about to kill me haha)... Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315494
P.s. Juice Defender team said the problem occurs with Plus and Ultimate because they use API call, which is incompatible with Android compatibility test suite... Im just saying all this so if people start getting these launcher force closes after restart, not to freak out and just uninstall it...
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Been on it for a week and and I haven't seen those type of problems and I'm using aggressive...
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Me either since i switched to ultimate.. Works better cuz you can customize.. The free one hust kills whatever is power hungry
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2.3.4 eclipse 1.3 in my situation, so I don't understand what causes such ridiculous Phone Idle percentages, is it from ram being abused, an unreliable connection, android hating?
(everything else is commonly below 10%)
wifi is typically left disabled, and i keep it slightly underclocked
what else android, what else!
I swear...the phone never truly goes into sleep mode...it stays awake for large chunks of time doing god knows what...every other phones battery usage graph I have compared it to looks completely different and only has small tiny lines of awake time...mostly when screen on...my x2 shows huge chunks awake when the screen hasn't even been turned on and data disabled for over 4hrs...I don't understand it. Killing my battery
it's a kernel bug, reboot yer phone immediately after unplugging it, every time. or downgrade to froyo (i got my absolute best battery life from froyo
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it's a kernel bug, reboot yer phone immediately after unplugging it, every time. or downgrade to froyo (i got my absolute best battery life from froyo
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Me?
Yeah I have been doing that since that fix was posted...it helps with life and awake times but it is still horrific compared to other phones...whether I reboot from power menu..power of/on...or whatever....it needs to be fixed...I don't understand why it does this...im about to delete the things that allow it to communicate with moto databases lol...
compare the battery capacity of other phones, most other phones come with at LEAST an 1800mAH battery, this thing is 1500mAH if you're lucky, couple that with 2.3.4's reporting bug and you end up thinking you're going dead much faster than you actually are.
I spend over half my days hovering at 15% or lower according to the phone, but I've also realized that it lies, alot... like my ex.
what does that actually do? =o
like what if you reboot a couple hours after unplugging?
... Christ what was 2.3.4 for if they didn't even get some of this stuff cleaned up
it prevents the idle process from "running away" when you plug it in it essentially disables the idle process, when it goes to re-enable it, it never stops, it takes up CPU cycles and burns the battery down for no reason and it will do it from the moment you unplug your charger/USB cable until you restart the phone.
why? beats me.
I thought you no longer needed to reboot after unplugging on 2.3.4? I did it every morning on 2.3.3, but stopped after updating to .4
I'm confused with this. Wouldn't a phone idle of 70% mean you the phone has been sitting there not being used?
As far as sleep, i use a cpu monitoring app from time to time and it shows my phone in "deep sleep" for multiple hrs when I'm not using the phone; my phone idle will show an equal high %, too.
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that list indicates power consumption. if I reboot my phone in the morning, idle stays around 10-15%, if I don't, that number skyrockets 40-45% and by 5 or 6 pm, I'm hunting for a place to plug in.
my biggest boosts in battery life came from turning on "data saver" disabling "background data", anytime you can make the 3g radio shut off, you're saving TONS of power
I also just upgraded to a BH6X battery, it was the ONLY way I could make it through a full day when I was working in Cheyenne, Wyoming (cell service there, not so great) I also use wifi as much as possible 'cause it seems to draw less current.
battery life and signal strength definitely have a correlation. the less signal you have the quicker that battery dies.
also, "SuperDim" (available on the market) is a HUGE battery saver, not to mention the fact that the automatic light sensor just doesn't make the screen dim enough, ever. I kinda miss the semi transreflective screen in my G1, I never had to crank the brightness way up to see that one in broad daylight, made the colors funny but at least it was legible. but that's the price you pay for pixel density
I've never had bad enough battery life to try Juice Defender but my roommate uses it on his bionic and it does pretty well. His only complaint is having to load facebook or his browser twice to get data to come back on.
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I am getting amazing battery life! Coming from a myTouch4G which would last maybe half of the day, its amazing!
I was at 51% when I plugged in my phone today. I have been using it all day and pretty extensively.
No juice defender either...
This is a mysterious problem for me also. I could have phone booted
up full charge everything that load's up is started. I could turn on airplane mode not do anything else for the day. (So No data no phones) And every-time I bring up screen I will see the amount of apps running go's up (ghost apps)
battery down & less & less ram available.
Has anyone ever tried to go into Sleep Mode I click it just locks up.
What's This Phone Doing Behind My Back??
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I swear...the phone never truly goes into sleep mode...it stays awake for large chunks of time doing god knows what...every other phones battery usage graph I have compared it to looks completely different and only has small tiny lines of awake time...mostly when screen on...my x2 shows huge chunks awake when the screen hasn't even been turned on and data disabled for over 4hrs...I don't understand it. Killing my battery
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it's a kernel bug, reboot yer phone immediately after unplugging it, every time. or downgrade to froyo (i got my absolute best battery life from froyo
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Yep, it's a kernel bug, from what I understand. Ugh.
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Has anyone ever tried to go into Sleep Mode I click it just locks up.
What's This Phone Doing Behind My Back??
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If you manually tell your phone to go to sleep, you have to long-press the power button for like 6 seconds to wake it back up.
This bug happens on multiple Motorola phones (bionic and d3). I know for a fact that this has been brought up multiple times to Motorola thru customer complaints, Motorola feedback program and carrier complaints. But for some reason they don't care or feel its a big issue. For issues like this, I wish they would unlock the bootloader.
I just installed this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246822
Have just been running it for a little bit but what I can see is that it definitely has an impact on battery life (in the good way). My battery seems to be dropping slower.
Thanks to 0vermind two posts above me.
how is the BH6X battery for you?
how long does it kick for? =)
Watercycle said:
2.3.4 eclipse 1.3 in my situation, so I don't understand what causes such ridiculous Phone Idle percentages, is it from ram being abused, an unreliable connection, android hating?
(everything else is commonly below 10%)
wifi is typically left disabled, and i keep it slightly underclocked
what else android, what else!
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I cant for the life of me remember but I read somewhere that unchecking the "automatic" setting in "date & time settings" stopped that part from oversyncing and draining battery. I have had mine unchecked for a while and seems to help some. Might be worth a shot. oh I usually 19% +- 1-2% on my phone idle at pretty much all times
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I cant for the life of me remember but I read somewhere that unchecking the "automatic" setting in "date & time settings" stopped that part from oversyncing and draining battery. I have had mine unchecked for a while and seems to help some. Might be worth a shot. oh I usually 19% +- 1-2% on my phone idle at pretty much all times
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That was me in "phone awake" thread.
What it solved for me was the chunks of time phone is awake(when screen has been off) are extremely reduced compared to when the setting is checked.
Only thing is that once in a while(mainly after bootstrapper use or a battery pull) the date/time is messed up. Easily fixed by turning the setting on for 5-15 seconds til it fixes itself and I turn it back off
Ash,
Yea discovered that today when I put in new class 10 16gb sdcard. No worries easy fix like you said super find been using your discovery for a week know working great.
Hi All, I have been using the Xda for long time and I am a bit greed and I never register, yep that's right, hate plz come.
But anyway, I have used too many phones that I can't even remember.
Last couples of week, I got rid off my Nexus one and got A Razr, but the disparagement start right with the battery life!
First a few days, I was using only wifi, as one of my number does not has Web pack on it, and I notice a horrible battery performance on the device and I am
Later on, I activied my internet on phone and here comes my theory.
I notice the Wifi is always running for some reason on the background even if I set it as turn of when screen off, when I check the battery usage, it shows almost every second that wifi is on. That should not be right, it should turn it self off when screen off, and it is not doing that.
Second of all, later on, I noticed something like *WIFI* shows under battery usage, and I was thinking what the heck is that, cause there is another "WIFI" still showing, and also something called" .com.motorola.contact. something like that is waking the phone and using the wifi as well.
And there also something like"motorola.home" running and using wifi for ages. Very strange.
OK, then I went out today, yes, I most of the time stay @ home, na I am joking..
I am mostly in a place with WIFI, home, work place, and Uni. All wifi here and there. Today, I took train 3 hrs total out and back from Birmingham to London for those who like stories. it was 1:30 afternoon battery @ 80% then I listen to music for 1 hr and use whatsapp quite a bit(battery hunger app even on iOS)
On the way back I played GTA 3 for one good hour. and it is now 9PM, and 15% left, as later on I tweet a bit, web a bit. which is good, also I took underground so signal is not always there.
After all these my question is for those who had the battery drain, are U in a wifi enviornment quite a bit time and use wifi?
If so, set the wifi sleep policy to Never(this actually will help) and while not using wifi to use heavy data stuff, turn it OFF and see what happen.
Also turn off GPS espically if you have facebook on phone and also the using wirelsess connection for location, turn that off as well.
BTW the GPS on Razr is reallllllly fast on location, it took 5 second to find me from cold boot. Awesome.
And I don't use task killer or smart action, I think using sensor and active these sensor to save battery while they are using a lot juice is not so smart.
BTW: due to I am on and off subway, my iPhone4s dropped a good 15% without any use, it just sitting in my pocket. (as for now, Android is the fun bit, iOS is the backup, as it does hold battery better a bit...lol)
I am on 2.3.6 (651.167.19.XT910.retail.en.EU)
I flash the rom couple of times, it all shows me WIFI is doing some strange thing.
Today still draining and I use a data usage checker and find that moto blur is using a hug a mount of data, WTF!?
I find battery performance vastly better on wifi than 3G. Mine has had atrociously bad battery life recently, so I'm backtracking through stock ROMs to see if I can replicate the setup I got 5+ hours of screen-on time with.
Gotta love those updates. The sooner data works properly in custom ICS ROMs for the XT912, the better.
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before a week i got v3c with version want to extend battery does any one know if it comes with door ??
give us a link have a look? I am looking for the Maxx to replace on my normal razr
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I've been using SetCPU to create profiles on the ondemand governor and extrapolating from my general usage during commute, news/texts/im, fair amount of screen on time, I'm getting around 10% drain per hour which is fairly nice. With screen off and 3g running leaving the phone to idle, it drops to around 3-4% per hour which is significantly better from what I was getting right out of the box.
Battery test for Motorola RAZR XT910
Yesterday I decided to do a simple test with my new smartphone, a Motorola RAZR, I shall not charge until he get just 15% of battery remaining. So here I will put the results and thoughts about it.
8:00 AM: I woke up and took XT910 off the charger. Wi-fi was turned on;
8:00 - 9:00 AM: I passed one hour using Pulse to read some news, once or twice I shared some news in the Twitter and Facebook, with the Wi-fi on, of course. The Battery got 85%;
9:00 - 10:00 AM: I started to use Whatsapp to chat with a buddy, took at least 45 minutes of intensive use, battery got 70%;
10:00 - 11:00 AM: Cellphone in stand-by, BUT with the wi-fi on, waiting for someone, battery got 60% yet!;
11:00 - 12:00 AM: That one appeared, so I used Whatsapp again for 30 minutes, and battery got 50%;
12:00 AM - 2:00 PM: Two hours with the cells blocked, but still with wireless connection, 40%;
2:00 PM – 4:00 PM: Motorola in stand-by, now with the wi-fi turned off, so, in the first hour, he keep 40% and in the second, he got 30%;
4:00 PM – 5:15 PM: The final test, I passed just one hour playing Ceramic Destroyer without stopping, the battery got 15% and then the phone asked for charging!;
Well, the battery last for 8 hours with wi-fi turned on almost all time, so I think it's was fair, BUT, the battery status is a bit fake, I don't think that the information was correct, but, it works when is a simple test, you know, right?
We all know about the 1,2 Ghz processor, this drains a lot of battery, but the real villain is the connection, wi-fi or 3G, they both spend so much energy of the cel.
My last thought is... always charge your phone when it's possible, even if you don't use in an intensive form, I hope that you'll not have problems because a low-batterys cell phone.
One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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keeb119 said:
One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
I know theres is some apps that drains battery, one tip is just deactive the auto-sync with your accounts, other thing, I want a batterystatus app, to know better that stuff.
And I will try this connection app, thanks
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Man I even turned off my smart actions, so far I only turn on things when I am really using them. Auto-sync only with wifi!
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your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
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Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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keeb119 said:
Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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what did you kill?
there are some very important factors of battery draining follow
Display Timeout,Display Brightness,Bluetooth Inactivity
I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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In running processes, the vague media process. Auto starts and kills battery quickly.
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hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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Thanks for the suggestions! I have added them to the list of battery tweaks!
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Razr MAXX running ICS leak
I decided to let my battery run down to zero last night and let it charge while I sleep. I got to work this morning and just notice my battery is at 50%! The only change I really made yesterday was re-enabling smart actions, and setting a wifi connected trigger to turn data off. I'm thinking this may be the cause of the drain. Here are some screens.
i.imgur.com/NIfXz.jpg
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I have no clue what "deleted_wake_locks" is. All my google results seem to point to wifi usage, and am thinking there is an issue with Smart Actions and Wifi might be the culprits.
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Razr MAXX running ICS leak
I decided to let my battery run down to zero last night and let it charge while I sleep. I got to work this morning and just notice my battery is at 50%! The only change I really made yesterday was re-enabling smart actions, and setting a wifi connected trigger to turn data off. I'm thinking this may be the cause of the drain. Here are some screens.
I have no clue what "deleted_wake_locks" is. All my google results seem to point to wifi usage, and am thinking there is an issue with Smart Actions and Wifi might be the culprits.
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There is an app that is not letting your wifi sleep.
Something is keeping your wifi on all the time and eating up your battery. Check out this app in the market and report back with the results, it's called "My Data Manager" and it will tell you which app or process is eating up all your wifi. Let me know what it says.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm&hl=en
This might be helpful as well, this guy changed the DTIM interval on his router and it fixed his issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14510569&postcount=1564
I've found on the stock rom, the Verizon wifi control app works well for turning wifi on and off by cellular location, ive heard tasker does this well also. Ive had no luck with smart actions. You also might want to go to settings, wireless, wifi settings, hit menu, then advanced settings, then change the sleep policy, if you have root you could also change the scan interval by editing the build.prop or using rom tool box. But do kill the wake lock, it not only keeps the wifi from sleeping, it also keeps your phone from going into its low power state
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I am having a similar problem with my Razr (not MAXX). Just today i noticed the phone getting hot in my pocket. I then saw the battery was almost dead after only 4 hours unplugged and very little use. I recently rooted and flashed the clutch extreme version. I dont use wifi. I have autokilled everything useless, ive checked the running apps and nothing wierd seems to be running, in the battery usuage, after 4 hours unplugged "google services" and "android os" both had 33% of the battery use. But like i said i cant see what is draning it...any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Even im having some issue there's a process called Media which always is 92% and eats lot of battery.....so is there any way to kill this process?
If your phone is rooted my advice is to use ti backup and freeze the bloat ware the list of pre installed apps safe to freeze/uninstall can be found in the forum, when your phone reports "android os" "system" "media" its a general term that covers built in apps. The major culprit ive found is Verizon's back up apps, media is probably motocast, try mulling around in the settings and set the sync settings to as minimal as possible, also if you guys don't mind, I'm curious about this, when i first had batt life problems i ran voodoo ota and disabled root and forgot to re-enable root, with bloat and all i seemed to have better bat life, anyone want to test and see if its the same for them? Wondering if Verizon is being sneaky, and pulling carrier iq -esqe info from rooted stock
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Never let your battery go down to zero. That is very bad for lithium batteries.
ok guys i found solution to media process.....Android media was trying to update it's music player and galery and since there were some media files which were too big in size and seems other files were corrupt so Media was trying to read them and thus eating up lot of clock cycles and thus draining battery. So once you identify which media file is causing the problem then media process get's minimal. About android OS process there's nothing we can do except to freeze some bloat.
Another way to disable media, though you have to do it every time you reboot, is to kill the process in running process in settings then applications. Mine does the same thing.
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Never let your battery go down to zero. That is very bad for lithium batteries.
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I was under the impression that the android os has a safety built in that keeps you from actually reaching 0, and the process of draining your phone until it shuts off, wiping battery stats in recovery, and charging too full while shut down was more to retrain the os to see 100% at a closer point to full and 0% at a lower safe point of shutdown... i know flashing roms not at 100% battery can muck up the scale, a good indicator is that your phone shuts off from low battery, you reboot and it reports a something like 20-30% battery
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Never let your battery go down to zero. That is very bad for lithium batteries.
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I would assume this is true for all android devices but at least for Razr I can assure you that it will turn off the phone before the battery gets below the critical voltage. That said it is almost always better to recharge well before it gets that low and as much as it is possible charge to full. I almost always charge over night.
Can somebody help. My sgs3 battery seem to drain like a loose drain. I charge 100% at 12.30am and go to sleep but by 5am battery is completely drained and phone is dead off. This is not the same during the day. Are there processes running when the phone is Idle that brings about this massive drain. Please I need help asap.
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Do you leave many programs running, alot of frequent sync going on? Did you leave Bluetooth on or something that you don't need during night? Just guessing...
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Search battery drain on Google for this device....lots of results,b but it generally comes down to learning how to use your phone and it's features, and when and what stuff to turn off etc etc
I don't leave anything on. I ensure I disable prefetch on my YouTube, disable auto updated on dropbox, I don't use SNS, and off course screen time out after 10 sec.
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I don't leave anything on. I ensure I disable prefetch on my YouTube, disable auto updated on dropbox, I don't use SNS, and off course screen time out after 10 sec.
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mine drop 1% per hr ... is that normal?
"multipdp" (): 12 m 26 s (746 s) Cntc/wc/ec)68/0/68 3.6%
how can i fix the multipdp problem?
Thankz for help^^
There is obviously a problem if it's dying in <5 hrs.
Did you recently connect to Kies because I was having probs with my SGS2 getting really hot and losing power as a result of Kies/a dodgy USB lead?
A factory reset solved it however ( remember to back up ) but sometimes just removing your battery for 90 seconds to reset the values works.
Good luck.
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The last thing I remember dong was hotspot and I made sure I switched off everything. From the posts above I tried the cell_standby fix and it still did not fix.
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The last thing I remember dong was hotspot and I made sure I switched off everything. From the posts above I tried the cell_standby fix and it still did not fix.
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Turn off Google backup, face awake, try that for starters
First of all, switch off your phone for a while to see if there is problem in battery or its the apps you are running. If you think it is a stupid step,
Then try using some software like JuiceDefender or something.
In app manager, kill apps that are useless.
Also turn off features like bluetooth, gps etc. if on.
Reduce phone's brightness, recommended to set it to "auto".
Turn off useless vibrations and LED notifications.
You should now see significant improvemance in battery life.
Hope this helps
I have taken all these steps gone ahead to remove live wall paper, auto sync disabled, brightness is set at auto. And its still the same. I don't want to tow the line of hard reset because am not sure that would solve the problem coupled with the time it would take to get my sgs3 to suite me
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I use juice defender which manages everything for me, an overnight schedule ensures the battery only drops by 1 or 2%
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okay so i thought i had a battery problem before i tried putting my phone aside (meaning no games, no internet browsing and no video streaming nothing, just using whatsapp and leaving facebook connected. I also have lots of apps and games installed over 15 or something)
If you decreasing screen time you will notice a HUGE difference (24hrs in my case), its basically down to usage, I have tried over 10 different roms and kernels as well as the v6 supercharger script, i dont ever notice the difference, EVER. unless of course i use a minimalistic rom with almost nothing to play around with, but if thats how u like it then go for that. Id say following all the fundamental steps will take you a long way
my final advice:
less screen time
when on the screen use the least brightness available
decrease stock brightness even more if you can
less app usage
if your not one to constantly play with your phone and customize stuff on it try installing a minimal rom like
|ROM|XXBLG8| IOIDroid Super Slim Edition | Buttery Smooth | V1.0.0 LIVE !! |
or
[ROM][4.0.4] Slim ICS (SGS3) - Clean, Simple & Fast (63MB)
i dont know if this is a placebo of not, but sometimes i notice improvements when i undervolt, underclock and limit to only dual core. believe it or not sometimes it has little or the adverse effect of saving battery
good luck man
And another question, which can be solved through the search function or Google -.-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
So here is my experience. Have been using android for years, have had an hd2 so I know how to get good battery life results. For some reason I easily lost 15-20% overnight with just the gsm 2g radio on. No matter what I did it drained fast even though deep sleep was fine, all extras sync and etc were off. 3hrs screen on time in 14 hours and it was dead.
I kept waiting for an update to solve this and it never came even though I was force checking it.
I ended up factory resetting the phone and as soon as it booted up an ota update popped up. Since then I am having nearly 6hrs screen on time in 40hrs,which is amazing.
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I will try the juice defender route and hope that it solves my problem or else I will be forced to tow the hard reset route.
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Greetings, I have seen a similar problem back in our hox forums. I have come here in peace to help, though. Recently, someone suggested bump charging, it's like a natural way of making your battery recalibrate itself without wiping battery stats or stuff like that.
First off, charge the battery until it says 100% while the device is on.
Then remove the charger, turn off the power, and charge again.
Remove the charger again when it says full while the device is off.
Turn it on again, then when it's properly booted, charge again, but don't use the device until it says it's fully charged already.
Mind you, we're not sure if it's just a placebo or not. Some claims to have had better battery life after doing this for once a month. I haven't tried it yet, but I thought I could share it here too.
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wtfshouldidonow said:
Greetings, I have seen a similar problem back in our hox forums. I have come here in peace to help, though. Recently, someone suggested bump charging, it's like a natural way of making your battery recalibrate itself without wiping battery stats or stuff like that.
First off, charge the battery until it says 100% while the device is on.
Then remove the charger, turn off the power, and charge again.
Remove the charger again when it says full while the device is off.
Turn it on again, then when it's properly booted, charge again, but don't use the device until it says it's fully charged already.
Mind you, we're not sure if it's just a placebo or not. Some claims to have had better battery life after doing this for once a month. I haven't tried it yet, but I thought I could share it here too.
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I saw this method being used with good results (reportedly) on my SGS2 so it's definitely worth a bash if you can't be arsed to reset.
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Just to offer two cents from my experience with this phone.
I recently got a replacement for my s3.. the details of that are for another post, but this relates to battery:
when I first got the phone i started using it right away. I did not charge the battery until I got to the office and charged the phone while using it the first day.
when I got the second replacement phone I already had a second battery.
This battery was fully charged and immediately used that in the new phone. fully charged the samsung battery before I used it.
I noticed significantly better performance with the second phone. I think it was because of the way i treated the battery strait out of the box.
any one agree, or have a similar experience?
Ibroe said:
Can somebody help. My sgs3 battery seem to drain like a loose drain. I charge 100% at 12.30am and go to sleep but by 5am battery is completely drained and phone is dead off. This is not the same during the day. Are there processes running when the phone is Idle that brings about this massive drain. Please I need help asap.
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Do you have an Exchange account set up?
After the newest update i also notice that it has a high % drain even if i turn 3g off, gps and everything nothing unusual runs in the background that can explain high drain yet it does.. and i didnt notice that before the latest update and i havent installed any weird apps. I also have all my weather and news on manual update so i dont get what can drain the battery with internet off overnight.. its frustrating a bit.