2.3.4 eclipse 1.3 in my situation, so I don't understand what causes such ridiculous Phone Idle percentages, is it from ram being abused, an unreliable connection, android hating?
(everything else is commonly below 10%)
wifi is typically left disabled, and i keep it slightly underclocked
what else android, what else!
I swear...the phone never truly goes into sleep mode...it stays awake for large chunks of time doing god knows what...every other phones battery usage graph I have compared it to looks completely different and only has small tiny lines of awake time...mostly when screen on...my x2 shows huge chunks awake when the screen hasn't even been turned on and data disabled for over 4hrs...I don't understand it. Killing my battery
it's a kernel bug, reboot yer phone immediately after unplugging it, every time. or downgrade to froyo (i got my absolute best battery life from froyo
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it's a kernel bug, reboot yer phone immediately after unplugging it, every time. or downgrade to froyo (i got my absolute best battery life from froyo
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Me?
Yeah I have been doing that since that fix was posted...it helps with life and awake times but it is still horrific compared to other phones...whether I reboot from power menu..power of/on...or whatever....it needs to be fixed...I don't understand why it does this...im about to delete the things that allow it to communicate with moto databases lol...
compare the battery capacity of other phones, most other phones come with at LEAST an 1800mAH battery, this thing is 1500mAH if you're lucky, couple that with 2.3.4's reporting bug and you end up thinking you're going dead much faster than you actually are.
I spend over half my days hovering at 15% or lower according to the phone, but I've also realized that it lies, alot... like my ex.
what does that actually do? =o
like what if you reboot a couple hours after unplugging?
... Christ what was 2.3.4 for if they didn't even get some of this stuff cleaned up
it prevents the idle process from "running away" when you plug it in it essentially disables the idle process, when it goes to re-enable it, it never stops, it takes up CPU cycles and burns the battery down for no reason and it will do it from the moment you unplug your charger/USB cable until you restart the phone.
why? beats me.
I thought you no longer needed to reboot after unplugging on 2.3.4? I did it every morning on 2.3.3, but stopped after updating to .4
I'm confused with this. Wouldn't a phone idle of 70% mean you the phone has been sitting there not being used?
As far as sleep, i use a cpu monitoring app from time to time and it shows my phone in "deep sleep" for multiple hrs when I'm not using the phone; my phone idle will show an equal high %, too.
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that list indicates power consumption. if I reboot my phone in the morning, idle stays around 10-15%, if I don't, that number skyrockets 40-45% and by 5 or 6 pm, I'm hunting for a place to plug in.
my biggest boosts in battery life came from turning on "data saver" disabling "background data", anytime you can make the 3g radio shut off, you're saving TONS of power
I also just upgraded to a BH6X battery, it was the ONLY way I could make it through a full day when I was working in Cheyenne, Wyoming (cell service there, not so great) I also use wifi as much as possible 'cause it seems to draw less current.
battery life and signal strength definitely have a correlation. the less signal you have the quicker that battery dies.
also, "SuperDim" (available on the market) is a HUGE battery saver, not to mention the fact that the automatic light sensor just doesn't make the screen dim enough, ever. I kinda miss the semi transreflective screen in my G1, I never had to crank the brightness way up to see that one in broad daylight, made the colors funny but at least it was legible. but that's the price you pay for pixel density
I've never had bad enough battery life to try Juice Defender but my roommate uses it on his bionic and it does pretty well. His only complaint is having to load facebook or his browser twice to get data to come back on.
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I am getting amazing battery life! Coming from a myTouch4G which would last maybe half of the day, its amazing!
I was at 51% when I plugged in my phone today. I have been using it all day and pretty extensively.
No juice defender either...
This is a mysterious problem for me also. I could have phone booted
up full charge everything that load's up is started. I could turn on airplane mode not do anything else for the day. (So No data no phones) And every-time I bring up screen I will see the amount of apps running go's up (ghost apps)
battery down & less & less ram available.
Has anyone ever tried to go into Sleep Mode I click it just locks up.
What's This Phone Doing Behind My Back??
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I swear...the phone never truly goes into sleep mode...it stays awake for large chunks of time doing god knows what...every other phones battery usage graph I have compared it to looks completely different and only has small tiny lines of awake time...mostly when screen on...my x2 shows huge chunks awake when the screen hasn't even been turned on and data disabled for over 4hrs...I don't understand it. Killing my battery
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Yep, it's a kernel bug, from what I understand. Ugh.
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Has anyone ever tried to go into Sleep Mode I click it just locks up.
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If you manually tell your phone to go to sleep, you have to long-press the power button for like 6 seconds to wake it back up.
This bug happens on multiple Motorola phones (bionic and d3). I know for a fact that this has been brought up multiple times to Motorola thru customer complaints, Motorola feedback program and carrier complaints. But for some reason they don't care or feel its a big issue. For issues like this, I wish they would unlock the bootloader.
I just installed this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246822
Have just been running it for a little bit but what I can see is that it definitely has an impact on battery life (in the good way). My battery seems to be dropping slower.
Thanks to 0vermind two posts above me.
how is the BH6X battery for you?
how long does it kick for? =)
Watercycle said:
2.3.4 eclipse 1.3 in my situation, so I don't understand what causes such ridiculous Phone Idle percentages, is it from ram being abused, an unreliable connection, android hating?
(everything else is commonly below 10%)
wifi is typically left disabled, and i keep it slightly underclocked
what else android, what else!
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I cant for the life of me remember but I read somewhere that unchecking the "automatic" setting in "date & time settings" stopped that part from oversyncing and draining battery. I have had mine unchecked for a while and seems to help some. Might be worth a shot. oh I usually 19% +- 1-2% on my phone idle at pretty much all times
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I cant for the life of me remember but I read somewhere that unchecking the "automatic" setting in "date & time settings" stopped that part from oversyncing and draining battery. I have had mine unchecked for a while and seems to help some. Might be worth a shot. oh I usually 19% +- 1-2% on my phone idle at pretty much all times
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That was me in "phone awake" thread.
What it solved for me was the chunks of time phone is awake(when screen has been off) are extremely reduced compared to when the setting is checked.
Only thing is that once in a while(mainly after bootstrapper use or a battery pull) the date/time is messed up. Easily fixed by turning the setting on for 5-15 seconds til it fixes itself and I turn it back off
Ash,
Yea discovered that today when I put in new class 10 16gb sdcard. No worries easy fix like you said super find been using your discovery for a week know working great.
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Hi,
I'm currently using JuicePlotter to see how my battery drains over time and this past night I think it drained more than it should (or maybe not).
For the ones who don't know, JuicePlotter runs in the background (of course) analyzing your battery, that too wastes battery juice of course. Thought, the app dev says on his website:
Perhaps the most important feature of JuicePlotter is that - unlike all similar apps and widgets - it's very battery friendly;
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So I'm not sure if the problem lies on JuicePlotter or not, I'll have to test it one night without it...
This is how JuicePlotter displays it's graph:
The coloured bands along the graph show your screen brightness, radio usage, charging status and battery temperature. Just scroll around to find precise information and make sense of the different colours.
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I went to bed at 4:10 with the battery at 97%. Around 13:00, it was at 89% and I didn't receive any calls/messages/mails/whatever during the night. The WiFi/3G was off all night along with the screen of course. The battery temperature remained the same too. I don't know if it makes a difference but I normally turn off Auto-Sync if the WiFi is off too.
Is it normal to lose 8% of battery juice in 9h in standby? I think it's a bit too much, but I don't know... Does the same happens to you too? What else cloud it be?
Interesting looking app. I've never noticed much of a lose overnight. Just installed the app, will fully charge and give you an update tomorrow.
Also how's the cell reception in your area? I've heard it can drain the battery a far bit if the reception is low.
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I'll have to do more testing but I think it's the app's problem... Tonight, I went to bed with 83% and it was exactly the same when I woke up...
I fully charged mine last night and turned on JuicePlotter. Still showing 100% this morning. Both in the app and on the phones battery indicator (in the notification bar). Do you know of any other apps similar to this that could be run in tandem?
Weird, Battery Graph also does the same thing...
This needs more days of testing on my part...
My battery goes from 100% - 0% in about 16hrs... doesn't matter how much I use the phone or not.
I have BatteryGraph but the results don't really mean anything to me as it just shows battery life vs time on a scale.
I'll try JuicePlotter to see if I can pin down exactly what's causing my terrible battery life.
I have a feeling it's running at full speed even when in standby but I'm not sure how to check if this is the case. Any ideas?
EDIT: Looking at BatteryGraph I've lost 15% in around 1hr... nothing unusual going on with my phone that I know about... just standard stuff running in the background. Perhaps the battery itself is simply past it's best.
CitizenLee said:
My battery goes from 100% - 0% in about 16hrs... doesn't matter how much I use the phone or not.
I have BatteryGraph but the results don't really mean anything to me as it just shows battery life vs time on a scale.
I'll try JuicePlotter to see if I can pin down exactly what's causing my terrible battery life.
I have a feeling it's running at full speed even when in standby but I'm not sure how to check if this is the case. Any ideas?
EDIT: Looking at BatteryGraph I've lost 15% in around 1hr... nothing unusual going on with my phone that I know about... just standard stuff running in the background. Perhaps the battery itself is simply past it's best.
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Wow that is terrible, try apps like Taskpanel and when you add programs to your auto kill list the program kills the programs as long as they are running in the background when the screen is off, however if you are on lets say your browser and you don't go to your homescreen the screen goes off into stand by it will not kill the app. Also try draining your battery to the point it shuts down by itself, plug it in let it charge for a bit, boot into recovery wipe battery stats start up the phone or leave it off (your choice) and let it charge fully. Are you using setcpu or OC Widget or anything? If you are using SetCPU make a profile for when screen is off and make it underclocked like 264 Mhz to 480Mhz, or with OC Widget tick the 'use different screen frequencies' (don't remember what it is called since I don't use it) and do the same; I like SetCPU better because when you turn the screen on it switches profile faster where as OC Widget takes its time however with SetCPU do not use the widget it will cause Sense to FC and I'm not sure about Vanilla.
Hope this makes sense since all my ideas are said at once.
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The way I've learned to recalibrate the battery is to let it go down to 5%, boot phone into recovery and wipe batterystats, then power off the phone. Let the phone charge until the green led is on without turning it on. Then turn on and use the phone as usual. Learned it over at modaco. Worked as a charm, and batterytime was improved. I have personally experienced strange batterybehaviour after periods with flashing a lot of roms.
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Here.
That's interesting...
Cause I've been playing with ROMs latetly, creating my own, testing hacks and stuff... And most of the time the phone is plugged and the battery is charged, during the flashing process it's using the battery and then it charges again. I also have to leave from time to time and when I get back I continue my stuff, meaning I'm charging the battery at high levels.
I'll have to try that calibrate method...
For now, for the past 2 nights, with JuicePlotter off, I've noticed the battery level did not change at all during the night. Tonight I'm going to try one more time with JuicePlotter on...
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Wow that is terrible
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Wiped battery stats at 5% last night, let the phone die and then charged whislt off until green light came on. Been keeping an eye on it all day and there has been a noticable improvement.
The phone came off charge at around 2am (so around 12hrs ago) and it has only lost 20%, which is a lot better than I was getting before.
It was probably just due to me messing about with some many ROMs and update zips lately as I tend not to have too much crap running in the background (I use OSMonitor).
I will look into setCPU but I remember trying it before with VR12 and it ended up causing some weird problems meaning I needed to do a full wipe to get everything working again.
Thanks for the help
This night, with JuicePlotter on, I only lost 1%, seems reasonable now... I don't know why that one time I lost 8% during the night. Maybe an isolated case? Something was probably running when it shouldn't, I just don't know what.
I've been doing a lot of research on this and it appears that our Razr has a bug that has been plaguing alot of Android phone. The 'suspend' bug. I noticed my phone was using alot of battery just sitting overnight. Sometime I'd wake up and it would be dead, which didn't make any sense. So I dl'd Watchdog to see what was killing the batt and it would get a warning about a 'suspend' process. This would pop up several times when the phone was just idle and not being used,with screen off. So I Googled it and there are alot of folks on various Android phones experiencing this problem. Here is a link to one site that is working on it or has been: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
If you do a search on it, there are quite a few places that it's popping up on. I can't figure out how to get it fixed but I do know that this is one reason our phones are not lasting as long as they could. They're being drained when not being used! Now this may affect alot of folks or just some but it's a definate problem, I know on my phone it sure is!
I've also noticed there's a huge drain in battery use coming android is. Hope there's a fix for this.
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I've been doing a lot of research on this and it appears that our Razr has a bug that has been plaguing alot of Android phone. The 'suspend' bug. I noticed my phone was using alot of battery just sitting overnight. Sometime I'd wake up and it would be dead, which didn't make any sense. So I dl'd Watchdog to see what was killing the batt and it would get a warning about a 'suspend' process. This would pop up several times when the phone was just idle and not being used,with screen off. So I Googled it and there are alot of folks on various Android phones experiencing this problem. Here is a link to one site that is working on it or has been: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
If you do a search on it, there are quite a few places that it's popping up on. I can't figure out how to get it fixed but I do know that this is one reason our phones are not lasting as long as they could. They're being drained when not being used! Now this may affect alot of folks or just some but it's a definate problem, I know on my phone it sure is!
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What is the full name of the program? Could you possibly freeze it in TB?
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What is the full name of the program? Could you possibly freeze it in TB?
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It's not a program but a process of the Android OS. It's likely part of the rom for the razr like a setting that motorola stuck in that prevents the low-power cycle that should happen when you put in sleep mode. Probably could be fixed once people start making roms or if they roll out that OTA for icecream sandwich.
Same here, hope this gets fixed soon .
And as I have pointed out in other threads, having Wifi connected magnifies this problem quite a lot (for my phone at least). If I use CPU Spy to monitor sleep time, if Wifi is connected, I get almost zero sleep time even if the screen is always off.
What I've found for battery drain with screen off:
Wifi on, cell data off (using smart actions): 4%/hour
Wifi off, only 3g data on: 1-2%/hour
4g falls in between somewhere.
It would be great if Juice Defender could be programmed to deal with this Suspend Process.
Which watchdog did you install? the free version. I would like to confirm this and I suggest others do as well.
Yea just using the free version of Watchdog. Make sure you enable the search Android processes also.
BetterBatteryStats shows it as well under "Process"
I'm also having this issue. I was getting really good battery life (compared to my work phone, an Evo) for the first few weeks and then all a sudden the battery bombed on me. The standard Android battery use info only showed "Android OS" as the culprit (and would show like 60-80% as of late) of battery going to it. I downloaded Watchdog Lite and then this morning after I had the phone off the charger it was giving me the alert that the suspend process exceeded threshold of 51%.
I DO use wifi and that was actually helping with battery, but I have it set to not use when screen is off. Now, that being said if suspend is hanging on it trying to disable that's one thing, but I've got those settings in juice defender and in the OS config.
I have the exact same issue
I don't know what it is, haven't checked but...I lost 13% overnight in about 8 hours, too much IMO. Still get awesome battery life though, can't imagine if that was gone.
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I lost the same last night. Unplugged for 8 hours. Not turned on. Was awake for first hour at least. Didn't go to suspend mode for awhile
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I have the Razr for about 2 weeks now, and I have yet to get an issue.. However, maybe for the handsets affected, a patch will come out to resolve the issue. Or maybe, just maybe they will just wait and release it complete with ICS for the Razr.
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Well, I think I figured out what was causing the issue in my case. Anyone else running the app "Screebl"?
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Well, I think I figured out what was causing the issue in my case. Anyone else running the app "Screebl"?
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Yep, use it my Razr.
Anyone experience something (a term I will borrow from the Nook forums, ) "Sleep of Death"? It has happened three times to me on my Razr in two days, although in the last two it hasn't happened.
By SOD I mean that I unplugged the phone from the charger fully charged and within a matter of 25min to 6hours the phone becomes unresponsive . No power button working, plugging into charger, nothing wakes it. The only time it responds is after the hard reboot ( by holding down power and volume - for 10s)
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Yep, use it my Razr.
Anyone experience something (a term I will borrow from the Nook forums, ) "Sleep of Death"? It has happened three times to me on my Razr in two days, although in the last two it hasn't happened.
By SOD I mean that I unplugged the phone from the charger fully charged and within a matter of 25min to 6hours the phone becomes unresponsive . No power button working, plugging into charger, nothing wakes it. The only time it responds is after the hard reboot ( by holding down power and volume - for 10s)
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Well, after disabling Screebl I haven't had anymore wacklock issues. Watch Dog isn't reporting on suspend anymore, and betterbatterystats is now behaving as well.
I also have Android OS taking up to like 46% of my battery. However, I now got around 20 hours battery life with a few txt, calls, music gaming etc since I turned the policy of the Wifi to go off when screen is turned off. Weirdly, it also appears to improve my battery life even when my WiFi is already turned off. Guess you guys can give it a try. But Android OS is the main energy user of my battery. Didn't have that on my Xperia X10
I have two questions:
1. Does anyone know the correlation between CPU usage and battery burn? I'm seeing Suspend consistently burning 3-5% of CPU, but haven't seen how that directly translates into batteyr burn. There should be some sort of mathematical relation between X CPU = Y battery burn.
2. Even though suspend is eating low cpu cycles, the battery dropping 10-15% overnight with nothing going on is still ridiculous. Any ideas on what else the probelm is?
Hey guys,
How much battery life do you get on your X2?
I just installed CM7 and I'm down to 60% after 5 hours of LOW use :/. Could I need a new battery?
Are you doing anything with the settings of the CPU, such as setting minimum frequency, keeping both CPUs online at all time (this might be set via tweaking scripts)?
In fact, ARE you using any type of tweaking scripts (V6 Turbocharger, speedy, etc)?
I don't use any of them and my battery life is pretty good. I also have an extended battery as well, so that helps.
Let the ROM settle in. After two days you should get a better picture of what it's like. Don't forget to do a battery calibration. I haven't even done that yet and have been lucky enough to have great battery longevity. Can also look into managers like Juice Defender. There's also another app I have used in the past that can limit when an app can run. Like limit Facebook from always running in the background and syncing for data. Ithink it'd LGE or LBE security?
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Are you using the beta and not the alpha? The alpha has a problem with running the CPU at a high percentage when it shouldn't, which cause the battery to suck.
It is possible that you may need a new battery, but more likely is that the X2 simply has notoriously bad battery life. There are, however, things you can try to help. Go to your settings app, scroll down and click on "applications", and from there, open "running processes". Check out some of the processes. There may not be any, and if you see processes running for games or apps you haven't used in the last few minutes, it may mean that they are constantly running in the background. In that case, you may want to consider uninstalling. Try to use wifi over 3g wherever available. Screen brightness is a major battery killer, and as such, may want to keep it on the lowest setting; I've found it to be the most noticeable improvent in battery life. People are going to tell you to calibrate your battery, but I've done that many times on 2 X2s, never seen a difference. My friends and I agree its just a myth, but there's no reason not to try.
Honestly I don't know squat about batteries, but I remember hearing that the voltage of our batteries is 4.2 volts. If that's a measure of capacity like I think, you can try the app "battery left", which I believe has a voltage meter. If its less than that, maybe you should consider a replacement. Please don't take my word on this though, I can't confirm any of this to be true lol. Maybe someone else can offer their opinion on battery health.
This whole post probably seems like a big collection of thoughts. I'm tokin' right now, took me like 20 minutes to type this.
Hope I could help
To add to theredvendetta's comment, if you have your email set to check for messages, it can really have an effect on your battery. If you set it to never check, I'll bet you will see a difference.
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I have nothing of the sort extra installed (CM7 might of had this stuff, but I don't know).
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Are you using the beta and not the alpha? The alpha has a problem with running the CPU at a high percentage when it shouldn't, which cause the battery to suck.
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I am using the Beta.
@theredvendetta: I installed the Battery Left widget, and when I go into details it's saying some interesting things.
I'm at 50% battery right now. For one, its saying my battery is at 3787 mV. 3.8 volts I would say considerably lower then the 4.3 it should be. My battery is only ~6 months old, but, for 4 of those months it sat unused, uncharged, and in my hot/cold car. I've only run it down a bit and charged it up 4 or 5 times this week since then.
It is reporting "battery health" as good, but idk.
Under "Accuracy" it's saying the charge reading is "Inaccurate" and the bar is totally red, indicating that the estimation of charge is very inaccurate.
Where can I calibrate the battery? I'll look around under Settings for now. EDIT: It's likely I was only around 60% charged or so when I installed the rom.
And as for background tasks, aside from the default stuff and my few widgets (not a heavy user of those) there's just Facebook+Words with Friends, Songbird, GO Keyboard. Not too terrible, I think.
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I have nothing of the sort extra installed (CM7 might of had this stuff, but I don't know).
I am using the Beta.
@theredvendetta: I installed the Battery Left widget, and when I go into details it's saying some interesting things.
I'm at 50% battery right now. For one, its saying my battery is at 3787 mV. 3.8 volts I would say considerably lower then the 4.3 it should be. My battery is only ~6 months old, but, for 4 of those months it sat unused, uncharged, and in my hot/cold car. I've only run it down a bit and charged it up 4 or 5 times this week since then.
It is reporting "battery health" as good, but idk.
Under "Accuracy" it's saying the charge reading is "Inaccurate" and the bar is totally red, indicating that the estimation of charge is very inaccurate.
Where can I calibrate the battery? I'll look around under Settings for now.
And as for background tasks, aside from the default stuff and my few widgets (not a heavy user of those) there's just Facebook+Words with Friends, Songbird, GO Keyboard. Not too terrible, I think.
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I probably should have said this to begin with, but when I was talking about the voltage, I meant 4.2 was the charge when at full charge. I can see I worded my original statement poorly, apologies. Try charging up to full, and then check battery left.
When it says "innacurate", its reffering to the battery percentage reading its giving you. When you have cycled the battery once or twice, it will tell you it is "accurate", and the bar Williams turn green. You may notice parts of the bar turn green while first using the app; this means its picking up readings for the percentage of battery you're on at the time. I mean if you're on 50%, it will soon turn green halfway through the bar. After you have completely cycled the battery once or twice, it will stay green and accurate until you reset it or uninstall.
To calibrate the battery, you have to enter Android recovery. I can't remember 100%, but I believe that you hold the up volume button while booting up the phone. It may be down, you can try both. Hold it until you see text pop up that I think says "fastboot". When you see this, let go of the volume button, and now hit volume down until you see text that says "android recovery". If you accidently cycle past it, keep clicking volume down, as the list loops. When you stop on android recovery, press the up volume key. After a few seconds you will see a new screen with an exclamation mark. Press the up and down keys at the same time. A list of options will now appear. Don't use any of them unless you know what you are doing. There should be an option called advanced or something similar. Cycle to it by using the volume keys, and hit the power button to select it. There will be an option to calibrate you battery in there. Itbwill take a few seconds, and after that, return to the main menu and reboot the phone.
Good lord that took me ages to type. There's no hope with dope kids.
I feel like a broken record, but again, battery calibration does not do anything. If there's a chance the meter is off, just charge until your battery's voltage levels off and use the battery fully before charging again.
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I feel like a broken record, but again, battery calibration does not do anything. If there's a chance the meter is off, just charge until your battery's voltage levels off and use the battery fully before charging again.
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I agree with you. He asked and I answered. 'Sides, there's no harm in trying it, as there are no negative aspects to it.
Im running cm7 and the only mod im running is the 8 touch points. I do have my screen set to the most dim setting thoough. My phone gets unplugged at 5:30 in the morning though out the day I'll talk send some text might play a few games and usually be on the internet about a hour or so. When I get off at 7pm my battery is usually anywhere from 75% to 69%. A few times it has gone 18 hours and only been down to 52%. Give it some time, CM7 has by far the best battery life that Ive seen for this phone.
Yeah, after clearing the davlic cache and going through a few charge cycles, it seems to of improve greatly.
I'm running CM7 and my phone has been unplugged for 23.5 hours with medium usage including 72 minutes total voice call time and I'm currently sitting at 23%, hence my signature lol and this is a stock battery.
SBF'd from my tasty X2 MAXX
give it a few days but cycle it hard, like don't plug it in until you're below 5%. I have the BH6X (1850mAh vs. 1600mAh) so it's not much of a jump in capacity... your voltage should start out right around 4.2v and drop to about 3.5 when it's close to dead. My phone sucks at telling me how much battery is left, it always has, I typically run this thing dead every day, but some days I'll have upwards of 40% left (voltage is still above 3.8v)
I honestly don't even pay attention to the percentage 'cause I can watch an entire episode of beavis and butthead in HD with the brightness all the way up using software rendering (more power consumption) when I'm below 10% and it won't shut off on me.
it takes me almost a solid two days to kill my battery and I've been on CM7 Beta for a week as of yesterday. at first my battery life was absolute crap, but it has improved... every time you wipe the dalvik it'll take a solid 2-3 days to rebuild it. that uses much more power.
I am prepping for CM7 now. With my mostly stock X2 using Juice Defender I am getting about 1.5 days between charges. When I charge I am about 20% or less on the battery and this is with mostly lite usage. I expect once I make the switch it could take up to a week for everything to level out as it will have to synchronize many things because it will be like having a new phone. When my X2 was new it took about a week to settle in and stop the random crashes. That was also about the time the battery improved from about 1 day between charges. I will write back in a week or two once I have my phone switched and stable.
I used juice defender for awhile but I realized I was really only using it to control data. I just keep a data toggle in the notifications bar. It's really not that much of a hassle to switch it off and it reconnects fast enough. Saves quite a bit of battery power. When I was doing that with my extended battery on liberty I could get about three days.
I am actually impressed with my x2's batt life (although it is a brand new batter when I got the phone a few months ago). I used to have the HTC Desire, and it wasn't the greatest with battery life. My bone stock x2 didn't have the greatest batt life when I first got it, and still wasn't a whole lot better with cm7 installed. But now that I have installed miui on it, and screen brightness is about 70% constant, with wifi ALWAYS enabled. I am going on almost 24 hours now (maybe more??) and I am at 57% with little usage. I've used the phone maybe 2 times today for a total of about 10 minutes talk time, I have no 3g/data, other then wifi when I am at home, so I'm sure that has alot to do with it.
Another tip, that probably everyone already knows, and some people say it doesn't matter, but it seems to for me. ONLY charge your phone when it is less than 10% left, and then make sure it is charged for at least 6-8 hours before you unplug it. I know they say the newer batteries are not effected by this but my wife had the HTC Hero (worst android phone ever IMO), but she would charge it every chance she got, even if it was at 80%. Now, the phone is lucky to hold a charge for 5-6 hours with NO USAGE at all (except wifi always turned on). Granted the phone is older than dirt, and so is the battery, but still. My desire still holds a decent charge considering how old it is. I can get maybe 14-18 hours with no use on it (or very little use) with wifi always on (granted, the phone is bone dead after this time though).
I just altered the cm7 performance settings... back to normal. This combined with a custom juice defender ultimate profile has easily tripled my battery life..
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I get about 3hrs max but im what u would call a heavy user lol
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I feel like a broken record, but again, battery calibration does not do anything. If there's a chance the meter is off, just charge until your battery's voltage levels off and use the battery fully before charging again.
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Yeah I've seen nothing come from battery calibration. I have problems with my meter some days draining really quick and some days just normal. If it's bothering my I'll do a reset and that will usually sync it up. I'll try the charged voltage level off and empty thing and see if that helps.
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This is my 4th note. The 3 I had previously the battery lasted a long time. I kept the same battery from the first one in all three exchanges. I took the new battery for this fourth one. Could this battery be a bad one or should I return the phone again for a 5th time. I don't wanna take a chance getting a phone with the problems I had on the other 3.
Just looking for some opinions
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Yea I tied that. Doesn't seen to make a difference. I hopes its just the battery cuz that way I can just buy a new battery
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Could it really be a defective battery? Seems more like battery drain would be a phone hardware issue. All the batteries are made the same right?
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I have horrible battery life as well
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Reflash your modem, rom, and kernel. See if that helps
I only get about 3 hours of screen time myself. Seems normal for this phone. The huge screen eat up battery fast. Plus if your using LTE, so good bye to your battery.
I don't think you have a bad phone, That's just how it is in my opinion...
so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
s1mpd1ddy said:
so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Considering the size of the screen I am getting decent battery life, sounds like what your experiencing is normal :/ but going through 3 phones must be very frustrating.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Auto Brightness?
I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I would like to see a screen shot of that
Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
polstein said:
Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice, so your car charger will likely only keep this phone from losing power, it may not gain any juice, and it may even loose juice depending on charger power and what the phone is doing currently.
This is also why most of us are seeing about 3 hours of screen on time, as while the screen is on its using probably 700-800mah of power. divide that by the 2500mah battery and you can see why...
You can try other programs to try and help with things like background data, undervolting, etc, but that's all going to have a small effect as the "problem" is the screen, its eats up most of your juice. If you want to save battery you need to go after the big thing, the screen, not the little things. However short of reducing the brightness there's not a ton you can do about the screen. It is a big screen, and it needs big power to drive it.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
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With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice
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I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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950mah is an educated guess. If you have root you can run this in a terminal to see how much power you car charger is giving the phone... (su first)
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_current_adc
I usually get about 9100 for a result, which is 910.0 mah. and my phone will charge barely if I dont have gps going (screen on). if screen is on and gps is on the phone will slowly discharge, so that puts the phone power usage at about 900mah with screen on, so maybe 950 was too high of a guess. So when the phone screen is on, your using a ton of juice for such a small battery.
If I use just a podcast app and the screen is off the phone will charge much faster while in the car. If I have google maps running, it stays almost even...
You could even calculate your usage. She how many minutes your were driving with the screen off and the phone charging and note the amount of battery% gained in those minutes. You'd see a huge difference in charging times with the screen off. In my 50 minute commute to work, I gain about 20% battery charging with the screen off... With the screen on, I see almost nothing.
Seems like some days are better than others.
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I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.