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I use gvoice so clearly I do not want a texting plan. Anybody had luck getting them to remove it? I emailed Amazon customer service. If they wont remove it, I am guessing I can get Verizon to remove it after I receive my first bill.
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I use gvoice so clearly I do not want a texting plan. Anybody had luck getting them to remove it? I emailed Amazon customer service. If they wont remove it, I am guessing I can get Verizon to remove it after I receive my first bill.
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You are getting a $300 phone for a penny, they are making that up with the texting plan. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You might be able to remove it, but Amazon might very well come back and charge you full price. You'll have to carefully read the fine print in the Amazon terms. Which texting plan do they make you get?
Very true. If that ends up being the bottom line, I can definitely live with it. They made each line have 1000 text plan for $10 for each line.
Still, If I can save $20 a month, I'm going to try.
Also going to get another $10 a month off my fios bill now that I'm a Verizon Wireless customer too.
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Huh. When I tried to buy a phone there I did not have to select a texting plan. I could just select data and move on. I didn't buy yet because I wanted a few more days to think about it
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Folks are saying any change to the plan during the first 181 days violate the terms and you will have to pay amazon's ETF (which I think is $250).
salesrep2189 said:
I use gvoice so clearly I do not want a texting plan. Anybody had luck getting them to remove it? I emailed Amazon customer service. If they wont remove it, I am guessing I can get Verizon to remove it after I receive my first bill.
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Why would there be an early termination fee?
If you check out the other thread, I called Amazon Wireless today, and they said there's no ETF for changing your plan (upgrade or downgrade), as long as you keep the line open, with a data plan.
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If you check out the other thread, I called Amazon Wireless today, and they said there's no ETF for changing your plan (upgrade or downgrade), as long as you keep the line open, with a data plan.
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Are you sure about that last part, I have been told By a friend that works at verizon that data isnt tied to the plan. I looked through the terms and conditions on my order, also no mention of data. Only that the line stays active.
I had a friend call amazon today and tell them to point out the part in the terms that states you need to keep data. They couldnt find it.
I just got my rezound today, swapped service with my TB. And am going in tomorrow to take TB off and put a dumb phone on and cancel data.
I wonder how long it will take amazon to chage me if they are going to...?
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Are you sure about that last part, I have been told By a friend that works at verizon that data isnt tied to the plan. I looked through the terms and conditions on my order, also no mention of data. Only that the line stays active.
I had a friend call amazon today and tell them to point out the part in the terms that states you need to keep data. They couldnt find it.
I just got my rezound today, swapped service with my TB. And am going in tomorrow to take TB off and put a dumb phone on and cancel data.
I wonder how long it will take amazon to chage me if they are going to...?
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true, data is not tied to the plan, but verizon has a requirement that any smartphone must have a dataplan. if they find out you do not, they will add it automatically for you.
Thats why im going to put a dumb phone on that plan and let it sit idle @ 9.99
I didn't notice any text messaging requirements, but I was just adding a line. It did have listed under family plans, both the mintues with unlimited texting and the minutes only.
I'm thinking the same thing about switching a dumb phone onto this line in a couple months after root is established.
Right now, I'm going to use my t-bolt has a hotspot on that line until I hit the 4gb limit every month (for my kindle fire). Once the rezound has root, I can just hotspot it.
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Thats why im going to put a dumb phone on that plan and let it sit idle @ 9.99
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You can do this easily and online without talking to anyone.
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You can do this easily and online without talking to anyone.
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on the web site im guessing? What part? Instruct me o wise one.
can anyone verify for sure if you can change the phone on the line that amazon gave you? I'm not sure what business it is of theirs if we change the phone as long as we're on the line? Furthermore, what if we drop the phone and it breaks or lose it...are they going to charge us $250 for that as well?
Its been three months since this post. has anyone got charged by amazon for swaping lines and removing data??
If anyone actually read their amazon agreement it CLEARLY states, that you agree to keep the line of service active for no less than 180 days.
Use a little common sense people. Lets say your phone gets stolen and you don't have insurance. Amazon can't just randomly force/expect you to automatically have a backup phone that supports data/text just to satisfy their terms or they charge you an ETF. Legally speaking something like that would NEVER hold up in court unless they forced you to get deductible free insurance, which to my knowledge doesn't exist. Bottom line, read what you sign. This thread needs to be closed before it leads to needless paranoia.
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Its been three months since this post. has anyone got charged by amazon for swaping lines and removing data??
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I got my Rez for a penny on this deal and have not been charged anything and I moved the Rez over to a new line. I then put a dumb phone on that line and removed data and have not received any correspondence from Amazon whatsoever.
Put it this way...when I asked an Amazon rep about keeping my unlimited data on my line (the only option when purchasing the phone was 4GB/month) he said I need to call Verizon to make sure I kept it. He didn't have access to view my account.
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I got my Rez for a penny on this deal and have not been charged anything and I moved the Rez over to a new line. I then put a dumb phone on that line and removed data and have not received any correspondence from Amazon whatsoever.
Put it this way...when I asked an Amazon rep about keeping my unlimited data on my line (the only option when purchasing the phone was 4GB/month) he said I need to call Verizon to make sure I kept it. He didn't have access to view my account.
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Your just lucky, my first experiences with wirefly ended in chaos because we decided to send back the droidx and keep the incredible, and they stated that we broke the contract. Tried to charge me $200 and I told them to eff themselces. No problems since and they dropped the charge
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If anyone actually read their amazon agreement it CLEARLY states, that you agree to keep the line of service active for no less than 180 days.
Use a little common sense people. Lets say your phone gets stolen and you don't have insurance. Amazon can't just randomly force/expect you to automatically have a backup phone that supports data/text just to satisfy their terms or they charge you an ETF. Legally speaking something like that would NEVER hold up in court unless they forced you to get deductible free insurance, which to my knowledge doesn't exist. Bottom line, read what you sign. This thread needs to be closed before it leads to needless paranoia.
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You are correct . it states keep the line active no less than 180 days. However doesn't say anything about features, like data plan or the phone itself. It just says line of service. So what these guys are doing is keeping service on by putting a dumb phone on the line and pay$9.99 without data. However, wirefly doesn't mention about keeping data plans and not transferring phones among the family lines
Okay I have a few ideas about getting a discounted phone and keeping unlimited data. First off my line is available for an upgrade this November, and another member of my family has an upgrade now, they do not have a smartphone now but will be getting a smartphone with 2gb data. So my first idea is once they get there upgrade, wait until mine is available and then transfer it to their line and have them upgrade again, and then I take that phone and put my sim card into it. Now I'm not sure, but I think the problem with that is when transferring my upgrade and having someone use it, will extend my contract and bump me to tired data, which I can't have happen. So if any of you have tried this method and had success I would really appreciate if you could tell me exactly how you did it.
The other method I read about was having a rep transfer the unlimited data plan to a tired data plan within the family and transferring the tired to the used to be unlimited, and then upgrading with tired data, and then switching the respective data plans back and maintaining unlimited data.
Again if anyone has had any luck with any of these ideas, or were able to keep your unlimited and get a subsidized phone another way, I would really appreciate it if you could leave a detailed response.
Thanks!!
You can use the other person's upgrade no problem, but if anyone uses yours, you will need a new contract and lose unlimited. I don't know about the more complex tiered data switching scheme... sounds like something that might work if the reps were feeling very charitable.
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You can use the other person's upgrade no problem, but if anyone uses yours, you will need a new contract and lose unlimited. I don't know about the more complex tiered data switching scheme... sounds like something that might work if the reps were feeling very charitable.
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Friend, just go to Gazelle and get a nice used phone for a couple hundred bucks and call it a day.
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You can use another family members upgrade by swapping phones after they upgrade, but you can't give your upgrade to someone else without losing unlimited. So either you convince your family member to give them your upgrade and you give them your old phone, you don't have many other options.
Thanks everyone. It sucks Verizon is doing this to its grandfathered users, but I guess I will just have to keep using the Thunderbolt until I have enough to buy a phone of contract.
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Thanks everyone. It sucks Verizon is doing this to its grandfathered users, but I guess I will just have to keep using the Thunderbolt until I have enough to buy a phone of contract.
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Hell yeah, I used 8 gb last month w/ wifi tether...not giving that up for no one lol
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Hell yeah, I used 8 gb last month w/ wifi tether...not giving that up for no one lol
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The funny thing is, I typically use around 3GB per month, even when I tether. I just hate the idea of always checking how much data I used to ensure that I don't go over!
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The funny thing is, I typically use around 3GB per month, even when I tether. I just hate the idea of always checking how much data I used to ensure that I don't go over!
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I'm kind of in the same boat. I am pretty much always on wifi now because I work from home, but I don't want to lose unlimited data in case I ever feel like using more data again. Been considering making a switch over to T-Mobile next time I feel like upgrading.
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I'm kind of in the same boat. I am pretty much always on wifi now because I work from home, but I don't want to lose unlimited data in case I ever feel like using more data again. Been considering making a switch over to T-Mobile next time I feel like upgrading.
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I would love to switch to T-Mobile, but I'm about 15 minutes from the city so I only get 2G here, and I could never live with that. If you do go T-Mobile, I'd check out either the $30/mo. for 100 minutes with unlimited text and data, or the $50 unlimited everything.
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I would love to switch to T-Mobile, but I'm about 15 minutes from the city so I only get 2G here, and I could never live with that. If you do go T-Mobile, I'd check out either the $30/mo. for 100 minutes with unlimited text and data, or the $50 unlimited everything.
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I'm contemplating checking their service out. $50 unlimited everything works well for me since I do make fair use of minutes at times (mostly work-related). If their service in my area is good, I could see getting the Note 2 from them rather than buy it unsubsidized from Verizon.
Regarding the earlier comment about giving your upgrade to someone else, have you verified this? I had read through the grapevine an ok workaround was to transfer your upgrade to another line, use it, then activate it on your line again to bypass all the stuff. Just don't want to try the wrong thing when the time comes and get spanked for it hah.
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Regarding the earlier comment about giving your upgrade to someone else, have you verified this? I had read through the grapevine an ok workaround was to transfer your upgrade to another line, use it, then activate it on your line again to bypass all the stuff. Just don't want to try the wrong thing when the time comes and get spanked for it hah.
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If memory serves me correct it will lock you in for a 2 year contract so you would end up paying for 2 separate lines that way but I am not totally sure there.
Oh, we have the lines. And dumbphones on them that are used (grandparents on jitterbug like phones...heh) I know I can get away with upgrading one of those lines, then activating it on mine. I was just hoping someone had tried transferring the upgrade from smartphone to another line, upgrading, then activating back on real line. In essence, still using your own upgrading and just subverting contractual stuff by doing all the action on another line.
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I'm contemplating checking their service out. $50 unlimited everything works well for me since I do make fair use of minutes at times (mostly work-related). If their service in my area is good, I could see getting the Note 2 from them rather than buy it unsubsidized from Verizon.
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You should check out the T-mobile thread in the Galaxy S3 section before switching. There are a lot of comments regarding the poor quality of service.
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You should check out the T-mobile thread in the Galaxy S3 section before switching. There are a lot of comments regarding the poor quality of service.
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Think that has to do with the Samsung radio gripe which is really hit and miss but can be a problem. My mom has a g nex that gets a little flaky at times at home because of it. Before I put the update on it basically it was a coaster in my hosue
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You should check out the T-mobile thread in the Galaxy S3 section before switching. There are a lot of comments regarding the poor quality of service.
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I'll need to take a look at that and Note 2 discussion on T-Mobile. My area is possibly iffy for T-Mobile, which is why I'm concerned. AT&T was historically a problem. Verizon has had the best coverage at home so I'm reluctant to move away from them.
Hello everyone,
Just figured I'd introduce myself. My names Christian, and I work for Verizon. I've been reading on the forums for a while now but just recently registered. I currently use the DROID DNA rooted on the ViperDNA rom, with an unlimited data plan. I just picked up a seidio active case for it today, and can say it's the best I've seen so far. Other than that, I'm still relatively new to the rooting and rom scene, so it's been a learning experience. By the way, I'm sure I'm not the only vzw employee on here, but I'd be more than happy to help with any questions anyone has related to my job.
Welcome to the jungle. Try not to get eaten.
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Hello everyone,
Just figured I'd introduce myself. My names Christian, and I work for Verizon. I've been reading on the forums for a while now but just recently registered. I currently use the DROID DNA rooted on the ViperDNA rom, with an unlimited data plan. I just picked up a seidio active case for it today, and can say it's the best I've seen so far. Other than that, I'm still relatively new to the rooting and rom scene, so it's been a learning experience. By the way, I'm sure I'm not the only vzw employee on here, but I'd be more than happy to help with any questions anyone has related to my job.
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Can i have unlimited data xD this 2GB plan is small lol Welcome to the forums
Thanks for the welcomes so far. And as for unlimited, I wish it was still that simple. It would be a lot less work on my part finding loopholes to get an upgrade every now and then.
100+ views and only two people actually replied =/ I was joking man, I know its not that simple. But nonetheless, welcome. The forums seem to be really quiet though..
I noticed the same thing. Plenty of views, but everyone is quiet. Regardless, if anyone could use the into, I can't get new people unlimited but I can always assist in helping you keep your unlimited. Feel free to pm me about it.
Welcome I've been here for like 2 n a half years and still don't have my required amount of post for the dev section so I figured I'd say hi lol and by loopholes I have a unlimited and am due for an upgrade u know of ways I can use the upgrade?
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Yeah, that was my main reason for making a new to the forums thread. Needed my 10 posts haha. But the easiest way to keep unlimited without a risk of getting your rep fired goes as follows: Have an old basic phone on hand, and add a 10$ line for it to your account. Use the upgrade from the basic phone to get whichever phone you want and have it activated on the basic phones line. Switch the service back to the basic phone. Now you technically own the new device. From there, just have the new device put on your number with unlimited data.
Sure, it adds 10$ to your bill, but my unlimited is definitely worth 10$ more than a basic 30$ two gig plan. Just make sure all actions are done on the basic line. Any changes like that accidentally made to your unlimited line will result in being dropped to two gigs.
Ahh yea I've been using my other lines to get new phones n letting them get my old ones lol I'm not losing unlimited
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Yeah, that was my main reason for making a new to the forums thread. Needed my 10 posts haha. But the easiest way to keep unlimited without a risk of getting your rep fired goes as follows: Have an old basic phone on hand, and add a 10$ line for it to your account. Use the upgrade from the basic phone to get whichever phone you want and have it activated on the basic phones line. Switch the service back to the basic phone. Now you technically own the new device. From there, just have the new device put on your number with unlimited data.
Sure, it adds 10$ to your bill, but my unlimited is definitely worth 10$ more than a basic 30$ two gig plan. Just make sure all actions are done on the basic line. Any changes like that accidentally made to your unlimited line will result in being dropped to two gigs.
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yeah, we have 3 lines : my unlimited, wifes w/ 2gb tiered, and dummy flip phone acct
i just use the other 2 phones upgrades for phones for me, and when mine comes up i pass the upgrade to the other line to use it
i just swap my sim card in when the phone comes in the mail
They're starting to get stricter with the unlimited policies, so I'd start watching more carefully as a heads up. My line's upgrade is coming up soon so I can let you guys know more details, but I almost believe at this point if the upgrade is used on another line, I will still lose unlimited on mine.
On a side note, I'm a huge fan of the rom nit. Viper on my dna is amazing. I'll be posting in the rom thread when I finally have privileges haha.
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They're starting to get stricter with the unlimited policies, so I'd start watching more carefully as a heads up. My line's upgrade is coming up soon so I can let you guys know more details, but I almost believe at this point if the upgrade is used on another line, I will still lose unlimited on mine.
On a side note, I'm a huge fan of the rom nit. Viper on my dna is amazing. I'll be posting in the rom thread when I finally have privileges haha.
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yeah i expect them to get shady with family plans sooner or later
thankfully i can use my parents upgrades at least, we just give them our older smartphones periodicially
Thank you Justin I never thought about transfering the upgrade lol I believe a lil dontion is in order for that and for your work on ukb and viperdna when I get paid on friday
Ahh just seen your last post Hollywood n I hope itll still work but I'm liking this DNA a bit much so idk
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Yeah, that's what the warning was about. I've did the alternate upgrade method a few times, but the stricter rules may deem it pointless. That's why I was suggesting the extra basic line to have an upgrade without losing unlimited.
Previously, we could put a fake phone on it called a test device, but now they are banning the use of test devices so there needs to be an actual basic phone involved.
Welcome! I have a question if I may. My upgrade isn't until September. Once this upgrade is available, can I still steal upgrades from other lines on my plan and keep my unlimited? And vice versa I suppose. Can someone else steal my upgrade without risking my unlimited data? Any help is appreciated.
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Stealing the other upgrades on your plan is how you can keep your unlimited. But you have to have the phone activated on the other line when you first buy it. Only then can you pull it off, and use it on your line. As for them stealing your upgrade, it normally works but here lately they're getting stricter so I suggest waiting until I can get you a solid answer. I believe it may elimate your unlimited at this point if the upgrade on your phone number is used. As soon as I figure it out, I'll make sure to let you know.
I've just switched to Verizon from att and the LTE on Verizon is slower for some reason. I had the One X at AT&T with dual core! I also wish I had unlimited. I don't get what you're saying about how to get it!
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Sounds good! Both my parents have upgrades soon on their dumb phones so I hope to be getting one of those
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Obie911 said:
I've just switched to Verizon from att and the LTE on Verizon is slower for some reason. I had the One X at AT&T with dual core! I also wish I had unlimited. I don't get what you're saying about how to get it!
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1) lte speeds are going to be greatly influenced by where you live, and the amount of lte devices that are present in your area
remember, LTE is newer on ATT, and there are far less LTE devices being used on their network....many people still buy unlocked international phones w/ just hdspa+ and use them on att's network....whereas virtually all verizon phones now are sold with lte
for the most part verizon's lte coverage is much more expanded though (by me there is only lte for vzw, not the other carriers yet)
2) the unlimited data tricks we were discussing all pertain to pre existing verizon customers who have/had unlimited plans grandfathered in....theres no real way to get an unlimited plan now on verizon....though occasionally on ebay you ll see people selling a "transfer" of their unlimited line....but proceed w/ caution on that
I'm an indirect agent, not a corporate employee but, I can say right now alt upgrades are not causing people to loose unlimited... I just did one yesterday to help keep someone's unlimited data and I can confirm that it stayed.
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After about an hour at the store I have it! I have not done anything with it. When I get home I will get to work. I will have question which I may not remember from other threads so please be kind. Oh I still have my unlimited data on my phone .
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After about an hour at the store I have it! I have not done anything with it. When I get home I will get to work. I will have question which I may not remember from other threads so please be kind. Oh I still have my unlimited data on my phone .
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Did you get a plan for you watch? if so what plan?
Yes for $20/month .5 Gb I doubt I would use that much at least at the beginning.
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After about an hour at the store I have it! I have not done anything with it. When I get home I will get to work. I will have question which I may not remember from other threads so please be kind. Oh I still have my unlimited data on my phone .
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:good::highfive: welcome aboard good lawd that's a lot of gb that you won't be using lol good that you got to keep your unlimited
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:good::highfive: welcome aboard good lawd that's a lot of gb that you won't be using lol good that you got to keep your unlimited
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Thanks. That was the lowest priced data plan I could get. Can someone remind if phone setting can be done and stay without using the gear manager. Going to link it to my phone once the watch is fully charged.
Edit: Did some setup and changed some settings. Cannot download new apps maybe I am missing something on my phone? Also need to look up the connection modes and how to set up for independent operations of the watch.
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Thanks. That was the lowest priced data plan I could get. Can someone remind if phone setting can be done and stay without using the gear manager. Going to link it to my phone once the watch is fully charged.
Edit: Did some setup and changed some settings. Cannot download new apps maybe I am missing something on my phone? Also need to look up the connection modes and how to set up for independent operations of the watch.
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interesting, the best deal they would offer me was a 30/mo add on smartphone plan if I wanted to keep my unlimited. Honestly though I am super happy that they didn't offer me a better option. I paid less for the uncontracted ATT and the H20 PAYG plan is more than enough given that I nearly always have my phone.
I did have to make a bunch of calls over a week to get the information needed to at least convince the VZW employees not to mess with my phone's unlimited data. Better I delayed purchasing it to get a satisfactory deal.
Started changing settings and checking things out. How do I get the automatic brightness to keep the display so all of the text can be read?
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For me I got mine the next day I dropped the plan. Never wanted it anyway but was required. My company has agreement where we break contract so was able do do it at no cost.
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I have a SGP621, been reading the posts on here but none seem to answer some of the questions I have. I do appologize if seems like some of this info I could just get myself by visiting the stores, unfortunately I have very bad experiences with AT&T sales reps, I always seem to have halfwits who know less about the phones and plans their selling then I do. plus I work almost every day, I dont have the time wait half an hour between each question so the the reps can all play "pass the question" in the hopes that the person to their left knows the answer. its irritating, frustrating, and your own personal experiences would give me a much better picture.
Also, it seems I'm one of the few who fall in the opposite category of what seems to be everyone else who bought the SGP621, I actually don't want to use it as a phone at all, I'm just tired of tethering. Ideally, I'd be happiest with a data only plan, even better if doing so could save me some cash.
AT&T questions:
Can I just get a data plan/add it as a tablet?
As a phone...would/could it be the same number as my normal phone? 2 separate numbers?
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Yeah, it's the same on the Z3TC. I didn't accept the download because I don't want my settings changed so I can't confirm if it has RedPocket , H2O and ATT etc...
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whats this about? is this necessary? what does it change?
How much is it to add to an existing family plan?
how much of a data usage increase do you see with this on your plan?
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Roughly how much for the data only plan?
is it worth it considering I already have a plan with AT&T?
That's exactly what I have with tmobile... Data only... Twenty bucks a month for 1gb, and that does include the free music streaming service
Well incase anyone was wondering, I did actually have some time today. since I already have a mobile share plan with AT&T adding my tablet was pretty cheap.
Its $10 for a tablet (data only), $15 for a phone (phone+data)
When they stuck a sim card in my tablet, AT&T gets confused, classifying it as 2 different things on 2 different levels and thus they could not simply add it. Instead they had to use the serial from one of the instore display devices, so they gave me the option to classify it as a tablet or phone. Even though I was planning to go tablet, 5 dollar diff? i went phone. seems to be working fine so far.
Consider the $15/mo tablet data plan thru Harbor Mobile ($15 for 5GBs). They are simply reselling a T-Mo business line I believe and could prob go under and leave you hanging at any moment...but if you don't have a phone number to lose, who cares.