Hi,
I read that the original firmware of the Samsung Galaxy nexus has benn released here.
Can this be usefull to coock something for our Razr?
thanks
I hope the ICS stock room
In my razr
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No it dosn't help.
What helps is the source which have been out for a while now.
But before we can use the source to do anything we need to unlock the bootloader. And I think everyone is waiting for Motorolas ICS as the bootloader will be unlocked.
pajn said:
No it dosn't help.
What helps is the source which have been out for a while now.
But before we can use the source to do anything we need to unlock the bootloader. And I think everyone is waiting for Motorolas ICS as the bootloader will be unlocked.
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Locked bootloader ONLY prevents custom kernels. You can still root, rom, and overclock with the bootloader locked. Not that big of deal.
jcutter347 said:
Locked bootloader ONLY prevents custom kernels. You can still root, rom, and overclock with the bootloader locked. Not that big of deal.
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But a rom without a custom kernel is pretty worthless. Some apps and settings you easily could change yourself.
CM7 and MIUI both uses custom kernels.
Maybe we could get AOSP booting on Motorolas kernel but I guess it would be easier to do that with a custom.
Overclock can be done with a kernel module, but it would be better to do that in the kernel itself as we wouldn't have to see so the module is loaded all the time.
Rooting isn't very fun, it is like a jailbreaked iPhone. How much does it help to get out of you cell if your still trapped inside the prison wall.
pajn said:
But a rom without a custom kernel is pretty worthless. Some apps and settings you easily could change yourself.
CM7 and MIUI both uses custom kernels.
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Um no, have you ever dropped by the Droid X section?
Hey,I'm New to Galaxy Nexus,Can Anyone tell how can i flash Firmware on my Galaxy Nexus,Also I'm Not using Linux.So Pls help me
pajn said:
But a rom without a custom kernel is pretty worthless. Some apps and settings you easily could change yourself.
CM7 and MIUI both uses custom kernels.
Maybe we could get AOSP booting on Motorolas kernel but I guess it would be easier to do that with a custom.
Overclock can be done with a kernel module, but it would be better to do that in the kernel itself as we wouldn't have to see so the module is loaded all the time.
Rooting isn't very fun, it is like a jailbreaked iPhone. How much does it help to get out of you cell if your still trapped inside the prison wall.
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That's totally wrong.
I've owned a Droid 2 Global with a locked Bootloader, with CM7 loaded on top through an AOSP ROM, which completely changed the phone.
With a 2nd-init, you can load any custom ROM you want, which basically circumvents the locked bootloader, and allows the phone to be just as open as an unlocked bootloader.
My Mom even owns a Droid X, and has CM7 loaded on her phone, and I had to give her instructions on how to do that over IM. She did it in 20 minutes, and now loads updates on her own without my help. She's 60+ years old.
She even taught my Dad, who's probably one of the least tech savvy people on the planet, how to do the same on his phone.
Rooting is such an easy process these days, and I have my RAZR rooted, and running like a charm completely unbloated, and have ZERO issues at all.
I'm waiting for the first DroidTh3ory ICS release, and I'll be flashing immediately over to that when it's available.
Locked bootloaders, while fun to debate about the policy and the legality of the situation, are really not that important at all.
In fact, I would even argue, that having a locked bootloader, if you have the source code, is easier to work with than having an unlocked phone but no source code (HTC doesn't release there's) or have an unlocked bootloader but terrible dev support (Samsung is notorious for this).
Motorola actually has one of the better dev communities out there, because the source code makes it's so much easier to do a custom ROM.
I don't know where you got your theory on this, but it's not backed up by my real world experience.....
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So I was just going to wait for the official OTA when I get the notification.
When I update to 2.3.3 will there be ROMs that I will be able to flash without having to update to 2.3.4.
To clarify,
When I updated to Android 2.3.3 I will be able to install any ROM that is made?
*I know this is a stupid question, I just have been confused on how the ROM process works on the Atrix. Im used to the Galaxy S method. Is it the same?
Thanks!
Please don't post any useless comments.
Chubby_Skunk said:
So I was just going to wait for the official OTA when I get the notification.
When I update to 2.3.3 will there be ROMs that I will be able to flash without having to update to 2.3.4.
To clarify,
When I updated to Android 2.3.3 I will be able to install any ROM that is made?
*I know this is a stupid question, I just have been confused on how the ROM process works on the Atrix. Im used to the Galaxy S method. Is it the same?
Thanks!
Please don't post any useless comments.
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Yes, you can still install other ROMS. However, ROMs may have varying requirements. Usually, it will require an unlocked bootloader and CWM (Clockwork Mod) recovery which will allow you to install a new ROM.
That's the beauty of Android. As long as your device is supported, you can always look forward to the community creating great ROMs!
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Yes, you can still install other ROMS. However, ROMs may have varying requirements. Usually, it will require an unlocked bootloader and CWM (Clockwork Mod) recovery which will allow you to install a new ROM.
That's the beauty of Android. As long as your device is supported, you can always look forward to the community creating great ROMs!
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Would it be correct to say that not all ROM's will be compatible?
I would surmise that a ROM for 2.3.4 isn't necessarily 100% useable on a phone with 2.3.3 on it given that there could be subtle differences in builds/versions which could cause issues as with P-ROM's for 4.1.26 thru' 4.1.83. If I remember correctly the later GingerBlur P-ROM's could not be used with anything other than 4.1.83, but my memory could be blurred, (no pun intended)!
Not necessarily. The current operating system (2.3.3 in this case) has nothing to do with your eligibility to upgrade to a newer operating system. The main factors are whether your hardware is supported by the new build of Android. Another factor is performance. If you have a device that is antiquated, it's quite possible that the performance could be substantially degraded.
If you are at all unsure, I would recommend waiting for official updates from your service provider or manufacturer. You really shouldn't dig too deep into the ROM scene with your primary/only device your first time around. If you make a wrong turn, you could potentially permanently disable your device, and you usually will end up voiding your warranty.
Just got my atrix, installed greyblur. Does that mean my bootloader is unlocked?
Please correct me if im wrong, but im reading here if you install greyblur you unlock your bootloader and will not be able to update to 2.3 gingerbread or any future updates?
I read somewhere moto is releasing an update to unlock the bootloader anyways?
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No, your bootloader is still locked. And when new updates are released, you will be able to upgrade.
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It's still gonna be a more of a "wait and see" on how the carriers are going to handle this...
Thanks for shinning some light on this for me. Ive rooted 3 devices, but the atrix was the more intense method.
So at this point its better to have a locked bootrom?
Is there a stock motoblur rom out there? I forgot to make a backup... :doh:
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I have a Unlocked Samsung Vibrant from T Mobile. I unlocked it after rooting superuser, busybox and using SGSUnlock.. My phone currently have
Firmware - 2.2
Baseband - T959UVKA6
Kernel - 2.6.32.9
Build No - FROYO.UVKA6
My question which is the best OS for my phone.?
Can the phone be upgraded to that OS without Locking?
And if Locked how to Unlock it again?
THANKS IN ADVANCE..
If by unlocked, you mean rooted, by all means keep it rooted. As for os and roms, i find that it's best to test them out and see what you like. I ran bionic for a while and recently switched to MIUI which is an amazing rom. Follow noob in 3D guide on how to install miui and give it a shot.
If by unlocked, you mean carrier unlocked, then no it will not relock when you flash another ROM, it will stay unlocked.
Depends on your taste. I've ran bionix, trigger, and many other roms. Miui, surpasses them all in customizabilty. If you want a truly custom experience use my guide (link in signature and stickied in this section) that will take you step by step through flashing the rom. However, expect slight more battery drain compared to Froyo (2.2). That's a flaw of gingerbread (2.3) based roms.
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sumit1003 said:
I unlocked it after rooting superuser, busybox and using SGSUnlock..
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I am particularly interest in this part. I have read the reviews on the market and half of them say it "bricked" their phones and other say it worked. Please elaborate if you will on this. EFS/IMEI is something not to be messed with, so that is one thing I am leary about.
I want to unlock mine, however my carrier is notoriously stubborn when it comes to that. So much so they actually tell customers to go to the corner places and have them do it.
So this app, "sgs_unlock", will remove the carrier lock if you have one?
(Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread Woodrube. I just was curious because I had never heard of being able to do this before.)
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Unlocking or Jailbreaking Whatever!!
N00B_IN_N33D said:
So this app, "sgs_unlock", will remove the carrier lock if you have one?
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Yup it worked like a charm for me, so I could, insert a different Sim card into my T959, and start running, Simple Mobile!!
Used to run T-Mobile, but now fully open to any GSM type of provider!!
Thread hijack, but other than inserting another SIM how do you know you are unlocked? I just used Galaxy Unlock in the market, mainly bc it had far fewer negative reviews and made backup of efs folder. Is there somewhere to look to see if it is truly unlocked? Some file created?
I ran CM7 nightlies on my DInc2 and updated to the stable version the day it came out. Technically, I am a noob so I really don't know what I am doing, I just know what I like and I can follow directions. (Except for Matt's ICS update when I forgot to protect the root and had to start over with .181, doh!)
Why is it that CyanogenMod is unavailable for one of the hottest phones on the market? Is it because of the locked boot loader? (which I will have to look up cause I don't even know what the heck a boot loader is anyway)
It's not über important, I just really miss my CM7 and was wondering if anyone knew the answer.
Locked bootloader= no custom kernals also there is cm9 but not cm7 nobody wants cm7 anymore ....
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You don't need custom kernels to have official CM.
That being said, our devs are hard at work on making a fully functional CM ROM - thing is though, since we have to work around the kernel that our devices are working using a process called "2nd-init", since we have locked bootloaders, everything is taking a lot longer and is a lot harder.
We have a partially working CM9 ROM over at http://droidhive.com. We also have AOKP.
Would you recommend a partially working version for noob who really loves CM?
jdadad23 said:
Would you recommend a partially working version for noob who really loves CM?
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Get the fist leaked ICS. It is cool.
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I am running 4.0.3. I agree, it is cool. I still think I prefer CM.
CM isn't necessary at this point in time.
hy,
i am quite sure this questions wer answered x-times, but i didn´t find the answer in the forum, so i will ask:
1) Can we expect that the Bootloader will ever be UNLOCKED?
2) Are some DEV´s (and who?) working on it? Do they inform the folk on ex. twitter or so, like the iPhone guys (musclenerd, pod2g, ionic,...)
3) I already updated to ICS-TMobile-Leak, is my bootloader now different to the one in GB?
somehow i thought, i shoud write a NEW post, but i hope its okay to ask here, coz +1(wanna hav CM9 toooo)
greets
lordvampire said:
hy,
i am quite sure this questions wer answered x-times, but i didn´t find the answer in the forum, so i will ask:
1) Can we expect that the Bootloader will ever be UNLOCKED?
2) Are some DEV´s (and who?) working on it? Do they inform the folk on ex. twitter or so, like the iPhone guys (musclenerd, pod2g, ionic,...)
3) I already updated to ICS-TMobile-Leak, is my bootloader now different to the one in GB?
somehow i thought, i shoud write a NEW post, but i hope its okay to ask here, coz +1(wanna hav CM9 toooo)
greets
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1. I think only Moto can unlock the bootloader, cause someone else told me it's an hard work because of 3 layers of encrypted code (I don't know what it means!)...it requires a lot of time and a powerfull machine
2. see n°1, Eternity project team are working on a bypass for bootloader (kexec)
3. ICS Bootloader is different from GB one, I guess.
draga277 said:
1. I think only Moto can unlock the bootloader, cause someone else told me it's an hard work because of 3 layers of encrypted code (I don't know what it means!)...it requires a lot of time and a powerfull machine
2. see n°1, Eternity project team are working on a bypass for bootloader (kexec)
3. ICS Bootloader is different from GB one, I guess.
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and if this kexec is developed, we can flash costum kernels and so CM9 too???
yes.
lordvampire said:
and if this kexec is developed, we can flash costum kernels and so CM9 too???
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Wait a moment...kexec is not necessary for CM9 flashing...you can flash modded rom, yet.
kexec (or unlocked bootloader) is required for mod kernels!
I am on icsleak, means i cannot flash costum rom as long as devs are not developing roms for my existing kernel right?
So i need to have kexec to bypass the kernel flashing to flash a costum rom...
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lordvampire said:
I am on icsleak, means i cannot flash costum rom as long as devs are not developing roms for my existing kernel right?
So i need to have kexec to bypass the kernel flashing to flash a costum rom...
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First phrase. Yes, I think so, if you can't downgrade to GB, as I guess
Second hrare. I don't know if kexec gives you this opportunity. You have always to flash a compatible kernel with a custom rom, its or others. This is my guess, someone else can confirm or not?
I know everyone was *****ing about Motorola Verizon keeping the bootloader locked on the RAZR.
Well now that I have used/flashed/installed custom ROMs I like it.
Several brilliant Devs have overcome the "problem" (Safestrap and BMM, et al) and we can load custom ROMs and even multiple ROMs for multi-boot operating systems.
And, short of a hardware failure, we still have the ability to restore to factory image if something goes awry while we are playing with our phones.
Feels like troll bait.
Not trolling. Serial question. Bootloader is locked and anything that anybody wants to do to the phone can be done.
I too, don't understand. Isn't a locked bootloader supposed to prevent custom ROMs? I don't own this device, but I may plan to, so I want to know whether to avoid it or not...
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I too, don't understand. Isn't a locked bootloader supposed to prevent custom ROMs? I don't own this device, but I may plan to, so I want to know whether to avoid it or not...
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you can run custom ROMs even though the bootloader is locked. I am running two custom ROMs.
That's why I am asking what the BFD is.
NO custom kernels. If we had an unlocked BL then problems like camera, bluetooth, screen rotation could be fixed much faster. Now all the devs are doing is using motorolas kernel 3.0.8 and no one is using kexec (dont ask my why...)
There is no posibility for a custom kernel.
Have you tried any CM10 rom?
Sure its fast at the beginning, but in dayli use, with dozens of apps. It is slower than stock.
All roms that are not stock based will have some extra lag besides all the bugs. Because of problems with the libraries in the kernel.
Also, the jpeg compression, 120fps recording and all those wonders aren't available because of the kernel limits...
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NO custom kernels.
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Olao99 said:
There is no posibility for a custom kernel.
Have you tried any CM10 rom?
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Thanks for the answers guys. That is why I asked. It also answers why the CM10 roms I have tried also have BT, camera, and screen rotation problems. Two birds with one stone!!
The Razr Developer Edition has the unlocked bootloader. Can the devs find a way to unlock the bootloader of the normal Droid Razr if they'll have this phone?
well, thanks to the big guys.
but i am still dreaming an unlocked bootloader for a much more easier way to flash roms and other changes like recovery and radio
maybe it is not suitable for me to buy moto phones
Hey guys,
First of i'm not sure if this is a appropriate thread to ask this, if not i'm sorry and will move/remove it.
Anyways it's been awhile since i've been in the android scene and xda in general, had an iphone for about a year or two and just recently got my Z2:victory: so i'm back but things changed a little and i need a little info if anyone can help,
Basically i'm looking to flash [Xperia Z2] DooMKernel v09 kernel but i read it requires an unlocked bootloader... so basically i need to know if my bootloaders unlocked now that i flashed recovery (check signature) (Does flashing recovery unlock a bootloader?) and can i just flash the zip?
or do i need to still unlock my bootloader even though i have dual recovery and then flash the kernel?
Your bootloader is still locked, what you did is you installed recovery for locked bootloader.
Do not try to flash custom kernel on locked bootloader, you'll soft brick your phone.
What you need in order to flash custom kernel is to unlock bootloader, but firstly you need to back up your TA keys ( click here )
For more info click HERE (about unlocking)
Proceed carefully!
Regards!
hey thanks for the info, that' clears up everything, I did already backup my TA partition so I guess all I need to do is unlock bootloader then flash the kernel! quick question have you flashed your kernel? I know I read the info an features of it but is there any upside to it on a z2? my device is pretty fast an stable as is, just looking for a reason to flash mine, any further advice you can give me? is it worth it?
Zeyn Karim said:
hey thanks for the info, that' clears up everything, I did already backup my TA partition so I guess all I need to do is unlock bootloader then flash the kernel! quick question have you flashed your kernel? I know I read the info an features of it but is there any upside to it on a z2? my device is pretty fast an stable as is, just looking for a reason to flash mine, any further advice you can give me? is it worth it?
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Well to be honest, I haven't, I didn't find any reason to do so, the stock is doing good for me at the moment.
As for the side affects, or as you say upside downs, there is no any, not at least that I'm aware of, but as far as I saw it's not compatible with every rom, only with stock as with stock based ones, I mean developer does not guarantee for it's stability if it's being used along with any other rom. I have rooted and flashed recoveries only to use existenz rom. I heard for Doomlord's kernel, that it has "fix" for a video recorder mic, you can control it's sensitivity and it's far more battery friendly.
Ah I see! thanks, think I'll stick with the stock kernel for the time being, I don't have any complaints at the moment with it but if I ever do decide to switch to the doom kernel atleast I know what to do first, I've got one last question though sorry, do I need to unlock my bootloader to flash a custom rom? I don't think I do, I'm pretty sure I don't, but just want to make sure, used to have only low end droid devices back in the day when I used to be here, didn't have things like dual recoveries etc so yeah I'm kind of reading an learning as I'm going along, pretty awesome device though sleek and powerful I've only been doing minor adjustments to the stock rom using xposed modules, haven't used a custom rom as yet but I will soon...
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Ah I see! thanks, think I'll stick with the stock kernel for the time being, I don't have any complaints at the moment with it but if I ever do decide to switch to the doom kernel atleast I know what to do first, I've got one last question though sorry, do I need to unlock my bootloader to flash a custom rom? I don't think I do, I'm pretty sure I don't, but just want to make sure, used to have only low end droid devices back in the day when I used to be here, didn't have things like dual recoveries etc so yeah I'm kind of reading an learning as I'm going along, pretty awesome device though sleek and powerful I've only been doing minor adjustments to the stock rom using xposed modules, haven't used a custom rom as yet but I will soon...
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Well, yes and no, LB means its for locked bootloaders and UB means for unlocked bootloaders, search for those to two words when you find the rom which you can flash.
Some roms require unlocking, some do not. All stock based roms usually dont require, but as I told you, it will be stated in Rom's thread name or in OP.
Regards!
Ah! I'll be sure to look out for those, thanks for the valuable info, think that's all I needed to find out. I should be ok from here on out