Is it possible to totally remove webos from the touchpad and install Android only? Would be nice to have the maximum storage space available. Thanks all.
I wouldn't want to remove webOS. I've been an Android user for a pretty long time, but find that I like webOS better.
In Cyanogen's original post, introducing their android port, they address this and say that webOS should be left on the tablet.
Actually it's pretty neat having dualboot, you get the best of both worlds. But to each their own. I haven't run across any posts that address this, but if I do, I'll post the link.
They wouldn't nuke webos because the android OS is still in alpha, so if anything should happen you'd be left with a dumb tablet.
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Definitely like the dual boot, prefer it that way!!
I wish I could ditch WebOS, waste of space on my tab, not booted into it since the day Alpha 1 was released and have no intention of ever booting into WebOS again.
Not a good idea to nuke webOS just yet as we do not have a stable release of any Android distribution yet.
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Another thing to think about is that portions of webos are necessary right now for booting cm7. Removing webos completely would result in a brick. Just sayin......
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And warranty purposes if you want a replacement/insurance claim
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I tried CM7 and Xron's take on it. I didn't think I was going to because I have a 4.3" android phone, no desire to see that experience scaled and stretched. I immediately saw I was right. Gingerbread does not lend itself to tablets well, IMO.
The first thing I did in android? Googled "moboot default webOS." I will leave it on there in the event I absolutely want to watch netflix or something. I just feel that the cards, and multi-tasking gestures in webOS is so much more intuitive.
I would try a Honeycomb build or ICS, but I just don't find a buggy phone OS a good fit for a tablet. Not that I'm complaining, its an alpha build, but even smooth and stable, I would not want 2.3 on here.
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I wish I could ditch WebOS, waste of space on my tab, not booted into it since the day Alpha 1 was released and have no intention of ever booting into WebOS again.
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afaik CM-Release states that WebOS hardly takes up any space so it would be dumb to ditch it just for space issues?
Don't plan on removing web os. The more I learn the more I think I can wait on a stable Android Port to live along side web os.
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I tried CM7 and Xron's take on it. I didn't think I was going to because I have a 4.3" android phone, no desire to see that experience scaled and stretched. I immediately saw I was right. Gingerbread does not lend itself to tablets well, IMO.
The first thing I did in android? Googled "moboot default webOS." I will leave it on there in the event I absolutely want to watch netflix or something. I just feel that the cards, and multi-tasking gestures in webOS is so much more intuitive.
I would try a Honeycomb build or ICS, but I just don't find a buggy phone OS a good fit for a tablet. Not that I'm complaining, its an alpha build, but even smooth and stable, I would not want 2.3 on here.
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yep thats my point too. great developement. stable and responsive alpha. but it still feels like a stretched phone os. webos feels so much more tablet optimized.
Well, we understand that it is just Alpha builds. However, going on about how you do not want to wipe WebOS because of Alpha/Beta/Not Tablet Roms, doesn't help. It is just a personal opinion there. I would love to wipe out the WebOS part as well, if nothing than to free up more space. However, I do understand that it is an essential part to the Mods to work and I would not. If the day comes and the Mods are independent, I would wipe it.
As far as warranty is involved, did you not just void the warranty by installing the CM on the touchpad?
Not to say webos is bad, but I just would rather dual booting Ubuntu-native and CM9 alpha 2.
How would you charge it if the battery was dead?
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I have the 16GB Touchpad. Currently running Android ICS (the CN version). Prior to that, I had Gingerbread... probably installed it back in October? My point is that I have not booted into webOS at all since October. I don't even remember what webOS looks like anymore.
My Touchpad is used daily and I have been happy 99% of the time. No real reason for me to keep webOS on it. On other other hand, how much storage space can I gain if I "nuke" webOS out of my Touchpad? Is it 2GB, 3GB, or perhaps more?
Thanks!
Firstly, lthe Android team doesn't have any way to do this. It is so till necessary on occasion to have WebOS on here, because the underlying firmware (below the kernel) requires it.
Secondly, even if you did completely remove all the other partitions from WebOS, yo would only gain yourself approximately one gig of space. 1056 MB to be exact. Then you need your /boot which is 30, so you gain 1024. Not a significant amount of space, so why bother, especially since you still need the WebOS in case something goes terribly wrong and out have to reform pat or reinstall anything.
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i think the better question should be: "when can we get a stable ICS on the HP Touchpad?"
it will be nice to be able to run just a "stable" ICS on the hp touchpad. i will never wipe out webos for any alpha or beta OS, even when i can.
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Hey guys so i just got a shipment notification so I'll be picking up my touchpad tonight.
Where should i start?
Install Android? I'm very comfortable with Android.
install another operating system?
Good apps? Games?
Looking for a good browser.
Basically any recommendations for a touchpad noob I'd appreciate.
Thanks a lot
Congrats!
Honestly, I would try out WebOS for a while. I was surprised how much I liked it. I haven't bothered to install Android (this coming from an Android phone and Nook Color with CM7). For starters, do a system update to get the latest WebOS version. Then, make sure everything works (ie. don't go and void your warranty right away ). There are some free apps you may as well peruse and download in the HP App Catalog.
It's not really necessary anymore since the latest OS update brought a lot of performance improvements, but you may want to check out the Preware patches once you're satisfied with the hardware.
I don't think there are too many other OS options yet aside from CM7. However, ICS, Ubuntu, and Windows 8 are all good possibilities in the future.
FWIW, the stock WebOS browser is so-so. There are a few patches to add some features, but it's still a sore spot compared to all of the options on Android (why can't WebOS get Opera or Dolphin?!). That said, it does handle most pages very well.
Thanks for all the good info!
System updates, are those done via computer or ota?
I assume most software changes such as adding cm7 can be undone for warranty purposes?
I have cm7 on my desire hd so i should be able to use wifi hotspot on my phone and pick it up on the touchpad?
Usually i like to do a bit more research on a device but i got caught up in a $99 black Friday sale so i panicked and bought
The system updates can be done OTA. I believe you can do them through the computer too though if it's easier, or you run into any issues. There is an app/settings pane in the menu to do it.
For the most part -- yeah you should be able to revert to stock if you need to. I'm not sure what breadcrumbs all the patches and CM7, etc, leave behind, but it should be possible. There's something called WebOS Doctor that should be able to restore as well. That said, HP's support has so far seemed incredible for a discontinued product, so it might not even be a problem unless the mods really did break it.
I think wifi tethering should be ok, but I can't say for sure. I think there is a thread somewhere around here about that or ad-hoc networking.
Lol... I know what you mean. I bought mine during the fire sale weekend with barely an idea of what I would do with it.
So i got my new toy last night. Everything is working good. Did the system update on webos ota. Seems like a pretty cool OS. I did find it slightly laggy though while scrolling, surfing, loading programs. I also installed cm7, only took about 10 mins and it's an OS I'm more comfortable working in (plus i needed dolphin browser for proper tabs, i wanted to pull my hair after surfing with the Web OS "tabs"). For being in alpha stages i must say it's very usable.
What are some reasonable expectations on battery life? Webos or Android, standby or "heavy" use?
All in I'm quite happy with my initial testing, especially for the price!
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So i got my new toy last night. Everything is working good. Did the system update on webos ota. Seems like a pretty cool OS. I did find it slightly laggy though while scrolling, surfing, loading programs. I also installed cm7, only took about 10 mins and it's an OS I'm more comfortable working in (plus i needed dolphin browser for proper tabs, i wanted to pull my hair after surfing with the Web OS "tabs"). For being in alpha stages i must say it's very usable.
What are some reasonable expectations on battery life? Webos or Android, standby or "heavy" use?
All in I'm quite happy with my initial testing, especially for the price!
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Really about 7 - 8 hours on android and webos
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So I've had my HP Touchpad since August, idly sitting on my shelf collecting dust. I'm so eager to get Android running on it asap.
My question to fellow Android and Touchpad users is whether I should go ahead and install Alpha 3 or wait for the stable version? And if I do install the Alpha, will I be able to update it to the stable one if and when it releases?
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So I've had my HP Touchpad since August, idly sitting on my shelf collecting dust. I'm so eager to get Android running on it asap.
My question to fellow Android and Touchpad users is whether I should go ahead and install Alpha 3 or wait for the stable version? And if I do install the Alpha, will I be able to update it to the stable one if and when it releases?
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I had Install the Alpha 3 on my HP Touch pad. I would say it's very slow compare to Alpha 2 and I had lot's of FC on it. I went on and Install the XRON 1.3 which is very fast and clean you should Install that one you will be happy trust me. If I have help you plz don't forget to press Thank you.
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So I've had my HP Touchpad since August, idly sitting on my shelf collecting dust. I'm so eager to get Android running on it asap.
My question to fellow Android and Touchpad users is whether I should go ahead and install Alpha 3 or wait for the stable version? And if I do install the Alpha, will I be able to update it to the stable one if and when it releases?
Sent via Tapatalk on my *voided* Evo running CM 7.1.0
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I installed cm7, and then xRonified over that. I've had no problems, except self-induced ones. . CyanogenMod is working on ICS and won't update Cm7 any longer. xronified, now at vB1. 3 has been stable for me when I'm using android.
My use webos/android is about 65/35. Dual booting is great!!
I dont think we'll even see a "stable" one soon, it will probably come with the ICS port and that's not even in our hands yet.
Go ahead and install Alpha 3 or the latest Xron Rom, most, if not all Android features work properly, except that Gingerbread is really unwieldy on a 10 inch device and is not suited for tablets.
It works well enough for most functions and apps though
Well I would recommend messing around with WebOS and loading preware on it. It won't bite, I promise
If you're familiar with *nix then there is a full terminal and all. It's pretty versatile, and after the system updates it runs pretty smooth. Plus with HP making it open source, there will hopefully be some nice WebOS based ROMS on the horizon as well.
I'm holding out for a good Android ROM as well. But WebOS isn't bad to tide you over for a while either
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I dont think we'll even see a "stable" one soon, it will probably come with the ICS port and that's not even in our hands yet.
Go ahead and install Alpha 3 or the latest Xron Rom, most, if not all Android features work properly, except that Gingerbread is really unwieldy on a 10 inch device and is not suited for tablets.
It works well enough for most functions and apps though
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Agreed. ICS will not be out for a while, and from what I've been told, it'll be flakey once we do get it. Install Alpha3 or Xron, and start playing with it.
You have nothing to lose by installing it and if you don't like it in its current state you can always remove it.
I recommend the xron ROM, its more polished and quite frankly I have no real issues to speak of, everything basically works...like someone else said though running gingerbread on a tablet has its shortcomings but nothing a little tweaking does't help remedy
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Well I would recommend messing around with WebOS and loading preware on it. It won't bite, I promise
If you're familiar with *nix then there is a full terminal and all. It's pretty versatile, and after the system updates it runs pretty smooth. Plus with HP making it open source, there will hopefully be some nice WebOS based ROMS on the horizon as well.
I'm holding out for a good Android ROM as well. But WebOS isn't bad to tide you over for a while either
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I have played around with the WebOS when I first got it but found it lacking a lot of things - mainly apps - if you mean preware. I loved how smooth things were though.
I think I will go ahead and install xron since its getting positive reviews. Thanks for the input from everyone!
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I second the Xron recommendation. It's good enough that most people won't have problems with it.
I also recommend trying out Task Changer from the market to get some swipe to task switch action on Android.
Running Alpha 3 and no issues except occasional WiFi. Thinking about XRON but not sure if we can move from Alpha 3 to XRON and still keep the apps, games & settings done in Alpha 3 though. Any suggestions?
So apparently after reading a lot of sites, I have to install Alpha 3 and then install Xron on top of that. Grr for more work!
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So apparently after reading a lot of sites, I have to install Alpha 3 and then install Xron on top of that. Grr for more work!
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That's what I did. Realistically speaking, it only takes maybe 5 min more...
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That's what I did. Realistically speaking, it only takes maybe 5 min more...
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So pretty much I can install Xron on top of my current Alpha 3 and retain all my current data?
The only issue I am seeing right now is that when i plug a pair of headphones on the device the sound cuts off. Not sure if this is due to the Rom or a hardware issue with my device (Refurb from the ebay sale).
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I think I'm going to wait awhile on mine. I'm beginning to see others having certain issues that a n00by like me would probably not enjoy All & all I'm happy with my rooted 1.40 Nook. I may just wait for the SD card version of CM7 to play with it. I sure do admire these guys that know how to work with this code and develop OS systems Sure wish I knew how to do this stuff.
I'm perfectly content with the way I currently have my NT set up. Rooted, OTA-blocked, using an alternate launcher, and having a shortcut to the default launcher if I want to read something or browse the Nook Store.
Now if CM9 becomes available on the NT, I might have to give that a shot.
I think some of the main features that a custom ROM such as CM7 can provide are bluetooth and multi-touch (which isn't available yet but currently under development). I'm not sure that's available for a rooted stock ROM. I saw some video of someone using a PS3 controller to play emulated games on their Nook Color so I can imagine that would be a great freature to add on.
I'm going to wait until they do further testing with CM7, at least until they get to a beta stage but I think it's the way to go for me.
I'm just waiting for a sure way to access the nook library. I have some magazine subscriptions that I don't wanna give up.
One of the main reasons I got the Nook Tab is because I saw that people were working on getting CM7/9 going on it. I had a $250 gift card from work to B&N, so it was a winning situation for me. I doubt I would have bought it if CM7 hadn't been on the horizon. I've actually never used it stock, I had it rooted and all B&N stuff stripped off within hours of buying it.
I definitely recommend flashing CM7 unless you are completely married to the stock B&N Stuff, then wait for the SD install method. Flashing CM7 is easier than most of the steps required to root, side load, fix unreadable menu's, etc, all the dumb crap I had to d to make this thing usable.
Almost everything is available in the market. No sideloading, no finding apps with your browser and tricking the market, almost everything works. All my important apps and favorite games have worked with no issues.
Menu's are all standardized, everything is readable, all options are open, just fantastic having all those little pieces working in every app with no fuss or hacks.
Rebooting is so much faster, not sure if it was all the apps I had or what but my reboots took forever with my stock rooted, now are 3 times quicker.
The thing just feels snappier, not sure if it is a placebo effect or not, but definitely feels faster.
Overall it feels like a tablet instead of a hacked e-reader. There may be some bugs that surface and a few things are being looking to, but so far so good
CM7 was the reason why I'm going to get a NOOK... well and the books lol
I installed the B & N app from the market and everything works great. I have been able to use my existing account to purchase books i have been able to move books over onto the Sd card in .epub format and read them. Make sure to fix permissions andcormate cache anddevlick cache if you are updating from first CM7 alpha.
Yeah i love cm7
I was nervouse when i first did it but it turned out all right in the end. Now ive got CWM and titaniumbsckup functionality and i can flash any rom or anything. Not only is cm7 a great new version of the OS but it opens the door to all the other roms that you could ever want to install. Only complaint is that the HD youtube videos lag, but the devs know about it and are fixing it. Id highly recommend it. Hope you take the plunge!
-Silente
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the only thing that worries me is that I have 1 week left to decide if i want to buy the 2 year warranty. what would happen if i need to send in for repairs if it has cm7?
Lined up all the tools I might need if disaster were to strike. Stuck the zip onto an SD card & went for it. I'm not looking back. Warranty? I won't be needing no stinkin' warranty.
The Lord has indeed Blessed me this day!
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the only thing that worries me is that I have 1 week left to decide if i want to buy the 2 year warranty. what would happen if i need to send in for repairs if it has cm7?
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That would be a big VOID if they could tell. If it won't boot up not much chance of that
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That would be a big VOID if they could tell. If it won't boot up not much chance of that
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I installed CM7 and messed around with it for a day or so. It worked great - with the exception of streaming video. Where HULU and Vulkano (slingbox-like DVR that works with my Directv) were smooth as silk with rooted NT on CWM, the CM7 vers. video would briefly "hang/stutter" from time to time - a bit annoying. Others have reported this same issue, and I know that the Devs are working on this.
Also, I lost all of my B&N stuff - not a huge loss - but think I may wait for the SD card version which, if I understand correctly, will allow me to hang on to that.
That said, I reverted back to the stock 1.4.0 using the "magiccard" method, and then re-rooted with Albert's SD card method (vers 4.50). So, assuming the unit keeps working (will boot,) does anyone know if there is a way for B&N to tell that a unit has ever been on CM7/rooted? I thought the magiccard method basically wiped the partitions and put the stock rom back on.
Thanks! Bob
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I think I'm going to wait awhile on mine. I'm beginning to see others having certain issues that a n00by like me would probably not enjoy All & all I'm happy with my rooted 1.40 Nook. I may just wait for the SD card version of CM7 to play with it. I sure do admire these guys that know how to work with this code and develop OS systems Sure wish I knew how to do this stuff.
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I purchased my nook tab specifically to tinker with and have no investment in BnN ecosystem. So far I've have some really frustrating problems that took a week or two of research and tinkering to work out. It has been a great learning experience. I now know a little about the inner workings of the Android OS and have a functional tablet to play with while the wife watches Netflix. Getting CM 7 working gave me a real sense of accomplishment. Before getting the tab for xmas I only had experience rooting my Droid 3 (one click method at that), So I am a real n00b too. I just went into this wanting to tackle my own problems. My advice, if you like what you've got, don't fix what ain't broke. - yes I am a hillbilly thankyaverymuch!
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I'll try it out if/when an SD bootable version comes out. I read and buy a lot of graphic novels and comic collections that are only viewable via the built-in reader.
For awhile I was just following on the developments and waiting till a stable version was released of CM7 because I was able to do what was needed with stock + root. The other day I decided to do some catching up in the NT scene and figured the CM7 Alpha12 looked pretty stable, so I gave it a shot. I am really glad that I did this, the NT just runs so much better than it did using the stock firmware + root. I am loving CM7 Alpha12 so far. If you were skeptical about installing CM7 due to it's Alpha status and possible bugs, as long as you haven't invested a ton of money into the B&N Store or stream a lot of video content. I think you should give it a shot because TEAM-B has been doing a great job.
Changed my mind and glad I did! !!! Loving CM7
I think I am going to wait for the SD version.
I think after a stable method to root/ block/ flash comes out that us non-devs can execute with consistent success I will try CM7. I am rooted - Thanks Indirect! - but I also had problems with the last time I tried CM7. At this point it's just not worth the extra work to try and fix a borked NT. Having said that, Veronica's ROM here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512373 is pretty awesome looking and I can't wait to try it out.
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I'm terrifically sorry - I've committed the noob crime of failing to search....and posting (inadvertently) in a thread that was already dead. I found the answer to my question. Sorry for the nuisance.
- Computerslayer
Is anyone working on a way to remove WebOS completely from our devices? I mean for those of us who have no desire to retain any part of the system, nor use it ever. It seems like an awful waste of space.
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Is anyone working on a way to remove WebOS completely from our devices? I mean for those of us who have no desire to retain any part of the system, nor use it ever. It seems like an awful waste of space.
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I think this will be done once we have a very stable port of android running.
Right now webos isn't taking up that much space and its nice to have a backup just in case. I'm with you though in wanting to eventually remove it completely.
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I think this will be done once we have a very stable port of android running.
Right now webos isn't taking up that much space and its nice to have a backup just in case. I'm with you though in wanting to eventually remove it completely.
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I believe it needs to be there for Android to work. Plus a lot of people like it including dalingrin
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I believe dalingrin stated in one of the earlier release notes for one of the alphas that he does not plan on finding a way to remove webos entirely (He likes it, and it can serve as a backup in case android turns to poo). But who knows, maybe some dev will find a way, only time will tell
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I would prefer to have it as well. Just want to play with open source webOS.
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I just see no point in keeping it. I haven't used it since I got cm9 on my TP. Also it would be nice to only boot into moboot with a button combination, like recovery on other devices.
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I have a few questions.
What are you putting on your touchpad that those ~2 GB are such a big deal? Also, if space was a concern why didn't you buy a 32GB model. I have 8 of the 10.5 storage available, and 1.1 of the system 1.5 free. I have all the apps I could want. Until last week there was no point putting movies on there, but now Netflix works I don't see a point anyway.
You can change the moboot delay to 1 sec (changing the delay to 0 will remove the auto boot, it just sits at moboot). Is a 5 second delay really such a big inconvenience every time you power cycle the device? How often are you power cycling the device anyway? At my check before I installed alpha 2 I had over a week of up time. I see no need to reboot the device unless I am flashing something.
While I almost never boot into webOS since CM9, I still see the value in a back up OS. And webOS is an elegant, smooth, intuitive experience. It would be one thing if CM7 was the back up, then i would be all over removing it. Yeah, the webOS app selection is bad, but so is tablet optimized android app selection. A solid web browser is 80%+ of my use on the TP. webOS had better browsers than gingerbread.
I just don't see the point of a new "how do I remove webOS?" thread every two weeks. Especially when the resounding response is generally "why?"
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
I have a 32gb version, and with no expandable storage every gig on that thing is precious. IDK about you, but I have wayyyyy more than 32gb of music. Also as long as we have an ability to boot into clockworkmod, there is absolutely no reason to retain a "backup" os as you call it. As for power cycling my device, it just depends on whether or not I want to save battery; or if I encounter a bug (like touchscreen unresponsiveness or SOD).
IDK why, but to me this seems like it should be a trivial task to streamline this into a full fledged android device at this point. Also, I wasn't aware there were any threads about how to remove WebOS, I looked at the main page and expected to find one but didn't. Ergo, this thread.
Not trying to be rude-
I was forced to see this thread when I tried to open a new thread titled "Remove webOS":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453930
A search for "Remove webOS" also found that thread in the general section and the following in just the first page of results on the Q&A forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1461517&highlight=remove+webos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490575&highlight=remove+webos
I found those with less than 5 minutes of searching on xda.
A google search returned this as the first result (searched "remove webos"):
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/8571-anyway-to-remove-webos/
Again, I know this sounds condescending, but it's frustrating to see this question constantly. Maybe it's because on the Galaxy S II forum we are flooding with the same questions at least weekly; "How do I install an i9100 ROM?", "Where is ICS?", "I installed a i9100 ROM without reading the instructions, my phone is acting weird".
You weren't the first to ask this question, and you won't be the last to ask it. I bet we'll see another thread before February is over. Outside of the threads dedicated solely to this question there has been a lot of discussion of this topic. On twitter, Rootzwiki, and here on xda. There is more to it than just a penchant for webOS. I am fairly certain the android system could not function without some of the webOS architecture or files. I cannot find where I saw that off hand, but I am pretty sure that currently it's not possible, even if some of the devs wanted to do it. I didn't respond with this the first time, because I could not find the source.
I also have much more than 32GB of music. But with Google Music, Pandora, Slacker, and other similar apps I don't see the need to put music on my device. If you played all your music non-stop how long would it run before repeating? Days? I only have 500MB on my phone because there is no need for an artist discography when I only want 3 of their songs.
CWM is not a backup OS. It's a utility. Yes, i have never borked CWM, but if you have too many moboot entries how can you fix that from CWM? You can't. You have to either be in webOS or Android. When switching from one ROM to another often both entries are there, and for me more often than not neither will boot. I just get boot failures. Without webOS I would have to use webOS doctor to completely wipe the device and start over, and reinstall android completly fresh. This happened to me at least 5 times in the past two months.
I posted from the android app, you don't see suggestions of similar threads.
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I posted from the android app, you don't see suggestions of similar threads.
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That brings up an interesting point. How did you get the xda app to run on the touchpad? Are you using tapatalk? I could not get the xda app to run on any CM7 or CM9 variant. Judging by the market comments the xda app doesnt run on any tablets, even legit ones.
Personally for that reason I don't think the mobile app should have the ability to create threads. Also the search function on the app is beyond useless.
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I've just been restoring it with titanium. As you can see it works fine on my nook color with ICS as well. ---v
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Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
NickPDX said:
Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
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If you add android (I recommend the unofficial cyanogenmod nightlies, which I use), it won't affect webos at all. That being said, all android ports to the TP are in Alpha, though it runs very well. I would say to go ahead and install android, there's nothing to lose. WebOS is an excellent os, I use it about 50% of the time.
Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
NickPDX said:
Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
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It affected my webos, but only slightly. Just deleted a few apps that I had installed through preware. Don't let this scare you, though, as I believe it was probably user error. Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
IMO, you should do it. My second "android" device was also an hd2, so it seems you have the background and know how to do it. As always, be careful to read as much as possible first. Also, there are a few outdated tutorials floating around (I encountered them when I did my touchpad). If you need a list of the current tuts, I'm sure I or another user can give you the links.
dung8604 said:
Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
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Yes, you end up with WebOs, Android, and a shared data area that is called "sdcard" under Android and visible from a PC.
The WiFi issues can usually be overcome if the WiFi router is yours. If you have to connect to an encrypted WiFi network e.g. at school, that could be an issue.
The range of apps for Android is much wider, including some very nice read along (or read to you) books. But switching to Android means they have to be bought again.
I LOVE the look and feel of WebOS, but I'm a die hard android fan. With wifi being spotty at best on android, I'd stick with WebOS for now. But like the previous posts have said, you can dual boot both OS (just set WebOS to the default in moboot)
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There is a "fix" for the wifi. Just install Rohan's Mod. It works beautifully. I don't have any wifi issues at all.
There's another thing that "fixes" the Wifi issue. Set your router to use one of the lower channels - I suggest 1-3, but anything below 6 is good. Then reconnect to it with your Touchpad, and you're good. There's been some issues in the upper channels, mainly with the fact that CM can support up to channel 14, but nothing in North America is legally licensed to use those channels. So set your regulatory domain to 11, your router to a lower channel, and you're golden.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on Web-OS.
They wont lose any apps you can always reboot to web-os
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
Almost about every works expect for the camera and you could always switch back to web-OS and use the camera.
One thing i think you might find a problem is that Android might be to complex for her
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They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
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CM9 (at least Alphas/official nightlies without overclock) is far behind the latest WebOS in term of interface smoothness.
OP, Battery drain is rather big, and if you'd allow it to discharge to 0%, you wouldn't be able to charge it from Android until you reboot to webos (which could be tricky) and charge it some time from there. Camera doesn't work, mic doesn't work, there are some force closes here and there, and even reboots sometimes.
Overall, don't think that current state of TP Android is suitable for non-geek person, and, as i understand, your niece is extremely non-geek. Better stick with WebOS for now, or get ready to explain stuff to her.
Yea Def put android on it. You wont lose webos if she doesnt like android. So you can give the child a choice.