And why is it such a big deal? People seem to get up in arms over who to blame for not having it enabled, And I have no idea what it is.
So what is it?
back light notifications.
some android phones have an led that blinks when you get a notification.... so there's a mod which enables the four buttons on our device to light up instead.
Back Light Notification
it lights up your bottom keys upon notifications (sms, email, talk, etc)
My captivate was rooted and custom rom with bln. I have to say That is one thing i really miss!!!! I wish there was a way i could get it on a stock phone or an app of some sort. I love my new gs2 but i miss not having bln!!!
I guess it might be cool, as its low-profile dim lights instead of turning the whole display on or vibrating loudly on the table..
Still, with the fuss some people make about whose fault it is (kernal/rom) that it wont work, you'd expect it would be more.
anyways, thanks!
Very low profile, can have phone on silent, screen off, and seeyou have a message. I wish it was a stock feature!! Should be a must!
Stock GSII patiently awaiting Ics or CM9.
Im running the UCKj4 leak ROM and it has BLN enabled.... I've been using for a couple days. I certainly like the low profile alert and for the most part I haven't noticed any difference with battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353513
You won't notice any battery life. The LED are very battery efficient. Killing me not having bln.
Stock GSII patiently awaiting Ics or CM9.
tspx23 said:
back light notifications.
some android phones have an led that blinks when you get a notification.... so there's a mod which enables the four buttons on our device to light up instead.
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I had this on my Sony X10 and it was very handy. In fact the LED would even blink different colors depending on the type of notification.
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You won't notice any battery life. The LED are very battery efficient. Killing me not having bln.
Stock GSII patiently awaiting Ics or CM9.
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From what Entropy posted, it's not the LED's that kills the battery, it's the open wakelock.
To the OP:
If you've ever had BLN, you'd love it as much as everyone else does/did. It's nice to just look at the black screen and KNOW if you have a message waiting. It also saves on your battery since you won't be waking up your device constantly to see if you've missed something.
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From what Entropy posted, it's not the LED's that kills the battery, it's the open wakelock.
To the OP:
If you've ever had BLN, you'd love it as much as everyone else does/did. It's nice to just look at the black screen and KNOW if you have a message waiting. It also saves on your battery since you won't be waking up your device constantly to see if you've missed something.
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Correct - On the I9000/Captivate, it was possible to have a stable BLN implementation without holding long wakelocks.
On the Infuse, no one ever produced a stable BLN implementation, so all kernel developers eventually gave up and ripped it out.
On the I9100, I have only seen one BLN implementation and it holds wakelocks whenever the light is active, preventing deep sleep. This is probably how the patch avoids the stability problems the Infuse had (which has an almost identical touchkey driver). Given my history with BLN - I'm not messing with it, if someone else produces a patch that is stable AND doesn't hold wakelocks I'll pull it in, but I just don't have the time or inclination for it. (I don't use BLN myself.)
As to ROM vs. kernel - it's both. The kernel needs support, the ROM needs an updated liblights.
Well see how my battery goes on this rom, but loving BLN. Cannot function without it! Had it on my captivate, had an equivalent on the HTC vivd, and now I have BLN on my SGSII!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353513
I too cannot seem to live without bln and am glad CM7 has it working. For me to get around the wake lock issue CM7 has a timeoit limit you can set. I think I set mine for 30 minutes. So if I am a sleep and get a text or whatever it will timeout while I am still a sleep so it doesn't drain over the course of a whole night. It is listed under device settings, notification timeout.
There is also a backlight timeout but that controls how long the 4 soft button lights stay on just while your using it, I have it set to ALWAYS which keeps them on while I have the screen on. Once it is turned off they go off. But the time limits for it can be adjusted also.
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i too would want to use BLN but i will wait for the approval from Entropy
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i too would want to use BLN but i will wait for the approval from Entropy
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Same here.
It's in my kernel, you're welcome to use it, just be warned that an active notification will cause your battery drain to hit 4-5%/hour.
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It's in my kernel, you're welcome to use it, just be warned that an active notification will cause your battery drain to hit 4-5%/hour.
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ive been using you kernel..but i dont see it anywhere. the rom needs to support it first right? im on unnamed, so i dont think its enabled.
polobreaka said:
ive been using you kernel..but i dont see it anywhere. the rom needs to support it first right? im on unnamed, so i dont think its enabled.
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It now works on ICScreweD.
For me, BLN is a must, as I often just have my phone on silent, laying on my desk and I don't feel like waking it up every time I come back in to the room. For this reason, along with tethering being enabled, i use the 2.3.6 leaked v3 rom by shoman. Soo niice!
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Is there a way to set the length of time the notification light will blink for? My phone will give me the notification light but then it turns off after a minute or so. So if I leave the room and come back it won't be blinking. It's when I check my phone that I see I have a message.
Is there a setting that I am not seeing? All I see under the settings for led notification are the types of messages you can set it for.
If you use a 3rd party messaging app you can do that
Like handcent
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Mine is doing the same thing and it's extremely annoying. It seems to shut off a couple minutes after receiving a new email/text.
this sucks if true. It should blink forever until you clear the notification. OR your batter clicks over into power saving mode and disables the notificaiton light if thats even a possibility.
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this sucks if true. It should blink forever until you clear the notification. OR your batter clicks over into power saving mode and disables the notificaiton light if thats even a possibility.
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It doesn't...same problem with the Sensation as well.
I sent HTC an email asking if they plan on fixing the issue. Shutting the LED off after five minutes sorta defeats the purpose of even having one...
sup191 said:
I sent HTC an email asking if they plan on fixing the issue. Shutting the LED off after five minutes sorta defeats the purpose of even having one...
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Did you ever hear anything back? From searching around, it seems all/most htc phones are doing this. If I didn't want a notification light, I'd get a nexus s 4g .
Try missed reminder from the market. If you have problems with it crashing disable gmail notification in the app.
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If you use a 3rd party messaging app you can do that
Like handcent
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Where exactly in the settings for handcent allows for keeping the notification light on? I have the same problem of the light turning itself off, and so I downloaded handcent, but all there seems to be is an option to just turn notification blink on/off; no set time. Am I missing something?
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Try missed reminder from the market. If you have problems with it crashing disable gmail notification in the app.
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Thanks. I've tried several led notification apps and none seem to work 100%. I can't believe htc is making phones with led's that only flash 5 minutes. It pretty much defeats the purpose of a notification light except for those awesome 300 seconds it flashes for you.
How come there aren't more posts or fixes for this?
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Did you ever hear anything back? From searching around, it seems all/most htc phones are doing this. If I didn't want a notification light, I'd get a nexus s 4g .
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Yeah, but it was a canned response:
"We appreciate your feedback, we know how important consumer feedback on our products is. We appreciate your suggestions and will use them in our research and development of possible upcoming models. If you have any future comments or concerns about our devices please feel free to contact us. Please feel free to contact us again if you have any further questions."
I got a more specific response, but apparently HTC thinks it should only blink for 5 minutes. I'd be curious how much battery is saves. I have a feeling it isn't much. You think they could just leave it as an option...
htc said:
I understand how important it is for the notification light on your device to flash indefinitely until you dismiss the notification.
Unfortunately, the device will only flash for about 5 minutes and then the LED light will no longer flash until you receive another notification. This is a battery saving feature and cannot be adjusted. I do apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number .
Sincerely,
Kathleen
HTC
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i work in a very loud shop and often go lomg periods of time without knowing i hav recieved a message. i use Missed reminder set to forever and blink time at 2 sec. my battery was still at 75% when i got home from work today. the program used 2% of my battery. worth it to me.
i think making that little led flash uses a lot less power than turning the screen on........
"It's a battery saving feature..." but it will flash the red one indefinitely when the battery is below 15%, when you need every mA of power you can get. Makes a whole ton of sense...
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i work in a very loud shop and often go lomg periods of time without knowing i hav recieved a message. i use Missed reminder set to forever and blink time at 2 sec. my battery was still at 75% when i got home from work today. the program used 2% of my battery. worth it to me.
i think making that little led flash uses a lot less power than turning the screen on........
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I tried Missed reminder, but had some problems with it or maybe conflicts other apps I had. It would start to only flash once I turned the screen on (which defeats the purpose ). I know the blinking led can't use much power, so their reasoning makes little sense. I'll give Missed reminder another go.
Fine HTC, it burns battery, but at least give me the option of having it flash until I check the notifications. That way, everybody will be happy.
Due to the lack of a dedicated LED for notification use, I was hoping it would be possible to use the LEDs behind the capacitive buttons for this function. I am aware of apps that somewhat satisfy this such as NoLED and FlashNotify, but either of these seem to to effect battery life. I've seen other threads for different phones where they have succesfully done this:
For LG G2x:
capacitive touch LED notification
For GS2 I9100:
[Q] Capacitive Touch LED Notification Blinking/Flashing
[MOD] BackLight Notifications for Galaxy SII - GT9100 and GTI9100M Bell's
With it being available for the international Galaxy S II, how hard would it be to get it to work for our phones? And who can we go to to get something like this b/c this is definitely something I wouldn't mind paying a few bucks for.
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Due to the lack of a dedicated LED for notification use, I was hoping it would be possible to use the LEDs behind the capacitive buttons for this function. I am aware of apps that somewhat satisfy this such as NoLED and FlashNotify, but either of these seem to to effect battery life. I've seen other threads for different phones where they have succesfully done this:
For LG G2x:
capacitive touch LED notification
For GS2 I9100:
[Q] Capacitive Touch LED Notification Blinking/Flashing
[MOD] BackLight Notifications for Galaxy SII - GT9100 and GTI9100M Bell's
With it being available for the international Galaxy S II, how hard would it be to get it to work for our phones? And who can we go to to get something like this b/c this is definitely something I wouldn't mind paying a few bucks for.
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BLN relies on kernel support for it. As far as I know, nobody has been able to implement it yet.
Its called BLN and its still in the early stages of development right now. There was talk that it would be close to impossible so its good that they may be getting at least somewhere.
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BLN relies on kernel support for it. As far as I know, nobody has been able to implement it yet.
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Entropy was working on it in his kernel, said there were some problems though. He pushed it to a long term modification. Doubt we will see it for a bit
The first thread you linked was a Q thread with no answers, other than NoLED.
NoLED should work, but it'll eat your battery like crazy.
The second thread covers BLN, which requires a kernel mod. When I tried to implement it on our devices, an active LED notification caused a permanent wakelock until the notification was cleared.
As an example of what this means:
Usually if leaving my phone overnight, it drops a little less than 1% per hour.
When I tried BLN and a notification came in 2 hours after I went to bed, I woke up to the battery at 56%. (this was after around 6 more hours).
We have a different touchkey driver than the I9000. It appears we have one similar to the Infuse, it means that so far, unless someone managed to come up with a vastly improved BLN implementation, we have two choices:
1) Crashing all the time but good battery life (Infuse)
2) Stable with no crashes, but active notifications gulp battery (I777, probably I9100 too)
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Usually if leaving my phone overnight, it drops a little less than 10% per hour.
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I think (hope?) you meant 1% per hour, right?
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I think (hope?) you meant 1% per hour, right?
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Ooops, good catch - yeah, 1% per hour.
So I pre-ordered last night at my local at&t store. I am excited as before I went to my at&t store I passed by best buy to hold the dummy model they have. Its big but I was still able to thumb the other side of the device with one hand. I also played with the samsung player which has a 5" screen and runs android but I guess thats just suppose to be an mp3 player, either way it looked similar to the note and it looked great. I can imagine how good the note's display will look.
The only thing right now that is bugging me a little is getting by with no led notification. Can you guys suggest how to get over that little led light that will no longer be on the note? Or how you guys with devices with no led lights are coping?
there is a app that you can get and its free called no led.. My wife had the same issue as she was used to a led light and when she got her samsung she missed it.. works well
But that requires your screen to turn on so basically killing the battery right? I know some samsung devices have that bln mod but not sure how well that works and if its even compatible with the lte note. Any led camera flash apps maybe?
no it puts a small icon that lights up on your screen and bounces around. the rest of your screen is dark.
Camera flash? For notifications? Seems to me that would kill that battery way faster than 64 pixels floating around the screen . . .
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But that requires your screen to turn on so basically killing the battery right? I know some samsung devices have that bln mod but not sure how well that works and if its even compatible with the lte note. Any led camera flash apps maybe?
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What does it really mean to "turn on the screen" for the Samsung AMOLED displays? LCD-based displays need a backlight, even when displaying a single pixel. But turning on just a few LED pixels on a Samsung AMOLED display is probably a very low power operation, since only active pixels should need to be powered, and since there is no backlight.
I haven't had an LED notification for years. And I am thankful that I don't. I remember on BB when I had the LED notification, I was constantly looking at my phone to see if the light was beeping. Without it, I'm so much less obsessed with seeing if I have that stupid blinking light.
@bkeaver - I thought it required the screen to be on
@LiquidArrogance - I've seen the iphone do it like that with a case
@vaxheadroom - Then I definitely am not sure the difference between lcd and AMOLED displays
@kiltedthrower - I'm still obsessed no thanks to the blackberry days
here is a link to the app.... should give you a idea of how it works and what it looks like
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.led.notify
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But that requires your screen to turn on so basically killing the battery right? I know some samsung devices have that bln mod but not sure how well that works and if its even compatible with the lte note. Any led camera flash apps maybe?
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Once a kernel is developed that supports bln which I imagine will be fairly quickly, it will be available. And it works very well, I use it on my captivate all you have to do is install the bln supporting kernel, download the app, set up what apps turn on the leds and you're done.
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Once a kernel is developed that supports bln which I imagine will be fairly quickly, it will be available. And it works very well, I use it on my captivate all you have to do is install the bln supporting kernel, download the app, set up what apps turn on the leds and you're done.
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Is it a strain on battery at all? Or does noled work better in regards to battery life?
Hey guys,
I've been having an issue with AOSP roms where my display will just stop updating, Previously on one of Neo's ROM, and currently on CounterShrike 2.1. The screen doesn't turn itself off; it stays on, but freezes and doesn't change. I have to hit the power button to turn the display off and on again and it will work normally again for awhile.
It actually still accepts input when the display freezes. If I press the home button while it's frozen, it will be back on the home screen when I hit the power button off and on. If I'm in a list and scroll with my finger while it's frozen, it will be further down in the list when I hit the power button off and on.
I thought this was related to the proximity sensor bug but when I follow shrike's guide in the FAQ for setting up Chad's proximity sensor calibration, it already is showing 'FAR' when I first load the app and I don't need to adjust the high threshold. I think the sensor is fine.
Anyone have any other tips I can try? Everything works fine under CleanROM DE but AOSP is so much faster I'd really like to try and nail the issue down.
Thanks!
EDIT: I've attached a logcat. Two times I recorded the timestamp when it frozen, around 00:45 and 01:11. But I don't really know what to be looking for in the log cat.
thank god I'm not alone with this! I get this crap with any aosp based rom. I sent logcats to a few and nobody can't figure it out yet. sometimes it freezes but the display bleeds and fades itself off simultaneously
This is just an accepted problem with any AOSP ROM.
If you read the OPs they all mention graphics issues.
If you have been following the JellyBean stuff, they can't get any graphics to work at all.
GrayTheWolf said:
This is just an accepted problem with any AOSP ROM.
If you read the OPs they all mention graphics issues.
If you have been following the JellyBean stuff, they can't get any graphics to work at all.
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really? the OP's for rage and aokp mention nothing about freezing or graphics being glitchy
Maybe unrelated, but I have recently discovered that if my fingers are even the tiniest bit wet or sweaty, my touch screen completely freaks out and becomes impossible to use. The only way to fix it is to turn the screen off, and turn it back on.
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Maybe unrelated, but I have recently discovered that if my fingers are even the tiniest bit wet or sweaty, my touch screen completely freaks out and becomes impossible to use. The only way to fix it is to turn the screen off, and turn it back on.
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That is probably not an AOSP issue.
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That is probably not an AOSP issue.
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Yeah, I sorta agree.. but I never had noticed it until I started using CM9 ROMS.
Actually though, ever since the ICS leaks something has been a little off about the Rezound touch screen, even on Sense ROMs..
Sometimes when you swipe horizontally one direction quickly, it starts to go and then jerks back and actually scrolls the other way. Worked fine in GB for the 2 months I ever used it on this device....
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Maybe unrelated, but I have recently discovered that if my fingers are even the tiniest bit wet or sweaty, my touch screen completely freaks out and becomes impossible to use. The only way to fix it is to turn the screen off, and turn it back on.
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This is true. I've stated this issue months back, sweat or a drop of liquid makes our screen act funny.
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freezing occurs regardless, no moisture involved
What cpu governor and i/o scheduler are you using, do you know?
I've noticed freezes/slow response with either noop or deadline i/o scheduler. The powersave governor or turning cpu speed down too far can also cause freezing.
Occasional Graphical flickering in GUI elements does seem to be an issue with cm roms on multiple devices. I've had success turning on settings - developer - force gpu rendering to reduce flickering, YMMV.
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What cpu governor and i/o scheduler are you using, do you know?
I've noticed freezes/slow response with either noop or deadline i/o scheduler. The powersave governor or turning cpu speed down too far can also cause freezing.
Occasional Graphical flickering in GUI elements does seem to be an issue with cm roms on multiple devices. I've had success turning on settings - developer - force gpu rendering to reduce flickering, YMMV.
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I forget exacts but it's with whatever is default when first flashed. the logcats at the time didn't mention anything about the CPU itself but graphics and HDMI errors with different invalid sound outputs as well
I experience this on multiple AOSP rom's! My phone was fine with sense based rom's but AOSP freezes. Sometimes it doesn't freeze at all, sometimes it's multiple intervals close together. This leads me to believe that it's something in the AOSP rom's themselves and not bad hardware, too many people have it with the same symptoms. Yet sense works fine.
Head scratcher (to put it very lightly).
least I'm not alone on this one. can't be hardware otherwise same issues on sense. anything that's not custom like the kernel or aosp works fine
I agree that I don't think it's necessarily the hardware itself. I think it could be some sort of threshold parameter HTC sets that differs just slightly from CM9 (threshold in what exactly I don't know), but that some of us have hardware that gets tripped up on it and others don't.
I initially thought it was an issue with the CPU (I've always been using the stock speed and governor after the initial flash) but it doesn't matter if I'm doing something really light or really intensive. It also doesn't seem to matter if I'm using stock apps vs. apps I've downloaded either.
I have 2 days off from work so I'm going to flash back to the latest CounterShrike and grab a log cat every single time it freezes up. At the end of the two days, I'll compare every single instance and try to find some correlating event.
Hopefully I'll find something!
God Damn this is really annoying!
Just had to get that of my chest. I'm reading threads and scrolling every few seconds and I just had a few lockups in a row. It's so frustrating because every other aspect of the Rom works perfectly! I don't understand. No amount of kernels I try fixes the issue. Volts don't affect it, cpu speed doesn't affect it. It's enough to make me want to go back to sense just to not have to deal with it. I don't want to
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God Damn this is really annoying!
Just had to get that of my chest. I'm reading threads and scrolling every few seconds and I just had a few lockups in a row. It's so frustrating because every other aspect of the Rom works perfectly! I don't understand. No amount of kernels I try fixes the issue. Volts don't affect it, cpu speed doesn't affect it. It's enough to make me want to go back to sense just to not have to deal with it. I don't want to
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yeah sadly I went back to sense. dark tranquility gives me phenomenal battery until the mean time with functional video chat. it's not often but I would like to give up video calls for aosp. even with everything I want removed from sense it's still bloated memory wise.
good luck with getting logs. I sent to most devs here and they were stumped
Got a replacement phone coming in the morning, we'll see if I experience the same issue or not.
I tried all sorts of things, and it happens to me.
Went back to Sense with included dsb kernel.
Funky kernel has the issue on sense for me though.
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I didn't have much luck identifying something in the logs winston856 I'm considering getting a replacement as well. Let me know how you make out.
on old gingerbread phones without led notifications there used to be a kernel maybe Franco don't recall that had the ability to flash the capacitive buttons. That would be key on our G anyone know if its possible?
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Bln support. Built into kernel. Then the app will work
the best phone ever
Yes that was it I remember the app and the kernel dependency now if someone would do this lol
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Crazy enough there is an app that can do it. It's working on mine. You wouldn't expect it to work though but it does. The app if Light Flow. You have to enable the app to control the buttons light. It does work but seems to cause a full wakelock.
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on old gingerbread phones without led notifications there used to be a kernel maybe Franco don't recall that had the ability to flash the capacitive buttons. That would be key on our G anyone know if its possible?
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From my understanding that only Samsung phones can use bln. But on another note why would you want that when we have a very bright led on the power button?
Edit: while that would look clean with the front buttons for notification that would give some drain battery drain not worth it to me since we already have a led light for notification. While wouldn't be my first choice for the location, they should have done it like the sprint model.
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From my understanding that only Samsung phones can use bln. But on another note why would you want that when we have a very bright led on the power button?
Edit: while that would look clean with the front buttons for notification that would give some drain battery drain not worth it to me since we already have a led light for notification. While wouldn't be my first choice for the location, they should have done it like the sprint model.
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Aside from the side location, the other issues with that notification light are 1) the fact that it only blinks ever 30 seconds or so, with no option to change the frequency, and 2) instead of an RGB LED, apparently LG only put a red one in, thus making it impossible to differentiate between different notifications.
If frequency can be fixed, I'd be happy. Otherwise, getting the capacitive buttons to each indicate a certain notification seems like a great alternative.
903tex said:
From my understanding that only Samsung phones can use bln. But on another note why would you want that when we have a very bright led on the power button?
Edit: while that would look clean with the front buttons for notification that would give some drain battery drain not worth it to me since we already have a led light for notification. While wouldn't be my first choice for the location, they should have done it like the sprint model.
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There would be so little battery drain you would never notice. Also, if you turn off the red led and only use the front capacitive leds the "drain" would be equaled out. I used BLN before and it is amazing. Would love to see it on the LGOG.
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Aside from the side location, the other issues with that notification light are 1) the fact that it only blinks ever 30 seconds or so, with no option to change the frequency, and 2) instead of an RGB LED, apparently LG only put a red one in, thus making it impossible to differentiate between different notifications.
If frequency can be fixed, I'd be happy. Otherwise, getting the capacitive buttons to each indicate a certain notification seems like a great alternative.
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Well I notice it blink every 5-6 seconds for a minute or so. But in a dark or lit room I can see it just fine. Only thing I don't like that it on the side should have been on the front like the sprint model. And still don't see why they made the phone different anyway. Just glad the att model has the sd card slot
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There would be so little battery drain you would never notice. Also, if you turn off the red led and only use the front capacitive leds the "drain" would be equaled out. I used BLN before and it is amazing. Would love to see it on the LGOG.
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agreed 100% it was a great tool and would be awesome here on our G