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I have a Gtablet enroute right now and have been doing a lot of reading the last few days. When first released all the talk was that it was a nice peice of hardware but to be any good you had to use a custom ROM with it. Is this still the case with the latest 4xxx update?
Pexcer,
It all depends on what you want. That's what the choices XDA offers here are all
about.
When we started with G-Tablets back last fall, the software was so bad it was
almost unfunctional. It has improved with each update. With 4349 installed you
can put your apps on it and have a functional tablet -- but whether it is good enough
for you is your call.
There are a number of alternate ROMs and each has it assets and liabilities.
The only way I know to approach it is to read the threads related to each rom and
see what those advantages and disadvantages are. You can eliminate some that way.
And whatever you have left, you will just have to try and see what you like.
I know this is not the "Go use the _______________ rom" that a lot of people will
give you -- but I'm not pandering for anybody's rom. I believe everyone should
research, try and make their own choice.
Rev
Pexcer said:
I have a Gtablet enroute right now and have been doing a lot of reading the last few days. When first released all the talk was that it was a nice peice of hardware but to be any good you had to use a custom ROM with it. Is this still the case with the latest 4xxx update?
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I'm more inclined to go with the fastest rom I can get my hands on. I don't care about looks. And stock rom will never be able to fun as fast as custom rom.
That said, you should make this decision on your own. Depends on what you want. If you are like my brother in law who wants everything to be official and fully officially supported, then I suggest you stay with the stock upgraded rom. If you're like me who doesn't care that it's the official release and would rather have a super fast tablet, then custom rom is definitely the way to go.
In another thread, I was endorsing the new calk/clems combo v3, which my quadrant test resulted in 4081. I've posted a picture in this post. Right now, the only thing that seems to be faster than this is the modded xoom, which is only about 80 more. I highly doubt the stock rom will ever be able to give us this much power.
Thanks for the response. I may try the stock UI for a few days when I get it. I have been having difficulty in really seeing the differences between the different ROMs out there though. One thing I plan to do a lot is watch TV shows I've downloaded from TVtorrents, these are 720p x264 in an MKV, is there one mod that can handle Video like that or is that a non issue. I can also grab non HD formats which would have a higher chance of working, but would rather not.
I've also read that hulu can be made to work, at least on one ROM, can't recall which now. If one does Hulu and another doesn't that would be an issue as well. I only download shows that Hulu or Netflix doesn't have.
Any guidance from people familiar with the different options would be appreciated, might save me from some trial and error in the next couple weeks.
Pexcer said:
I've also read that hulu can be made to work, at least on one ROM, can't recall which now. If one does Hulu and another doesn't that would be an issue as well. I only download shows that Hulu or Netflix doesn't have.
Any guidance from people familiar with the different options would be appreciated, might save me from some trial and error in the next couple weeks.
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Torrents blows goats. their download speeds are as fast as my original G Tab os. File Hosting is the way to roll.
Off my soapbox, I agree with goodintentions. Speed and stability is the key. after that, ADW, 3D Launcher, VTLauncher and a few other Home screen launchers can customize your experience. let us know how yours runs. I won't go that route until the ROM's for it (1.2) are out and stable.
I don't have the newest update that just came out, so I can't comment on that. But I can mention why I went back to the stock ROM. I got my g tablet when woot was selling them. I left the stock rom on for a week and it worked pretty well as a shared device between me and my wife. The stock apps let you keep separate accounts. I put on clockwork and formatted the drive as recommended, then I tried TNT lite, g harmony, and cyanogen. They make your tablet like a big phone. When you sign in to the google apps, all you contacts, calendar, and emails are imported. This didn't work so well as a shared tablet. I decided to leave clockwork mod and the recommended formatting but put the original ROM back on. With the proper formatting, the thing isn't too bad. Probably not as fast as some of the folks here would like, but it serves our purpose as a shared device.
Half the fun (and half the aggravation) is trying different roms. Which is best? That is hard to say. Here is what I suggest. Don't get the latest update with the locked bootloader because then there is nothing you can play with. Get Titanium Backup so you can back up your apps. Learn how to connect t o your pc with usb so you can copy your stuff safely away while you play. Install clockworkmod so you can fix things and install different roms. NVflash is also a good thing to set up and learn but you don't have to right away unless you got the latest update. Now do this.
1. Use clockwork mod to make a backup of your original rom and copy it to your pc.
2. Download and install a new rom calkulin/clemsyn is nice. Use clockwork mod again to make a backup of that installation.
3. download another rom and install. Use clockworkmod to make a backup of that one.
4. When you've tried enough of them you can decide which one you like and restore it using clockwork mod.
5. Changed you mind? Restore one of the others!
6. Rinse and repeat as needed.
Remember Titanium Backup will backup your apps and data - so, if you install a new rom you can restore your apps and data. That means you don't have to go fetch them all in the market and you don't have to restart angry birds at level one.
There are lots of tutorials on how to do this stuff - read the stickys.
Good luck
Try a bunch of ROMs
I agree with enigma. I got my Gtablet last week and immediately updated hoping that the new stock ROM was good enough. It isn't. It's slow and "chunky" plus doesn't have access to the Android market.
I've heard good stuff about the calkulin/clemsyn and Vegan. Being that Vegan is Honeycomb I just went with that though I really should have tried calkulin/clemsyn too as so many must like it for a reason.
I'm new to Android as well so don't get too hung up on the difficulty of installing ROMs. There are very clear, step by step instructions to be found here. Each install takes maybe 15 minutes. So in an afternoon you could easily install and play with half a dozen ROMs before deciding on which you like better.
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Half the fun (and half the aggravation) is trying different roms. Which is best? That is hard to say. Here is what I suggest. Don't get the latest update with the locked bootloader because then there is nothing you can play with. Get Titanium Backup so you can back up your apps. Learn how to connect t o your pc with usb so you can copy your stuff safely away while you play. Install clockworkmod so you can fix things and install different roms. NVflash is also a good thing to set up and learn but you don't have to right away unless you got the latest update. Now do this.
1. Use clockwork mod to make a backup of your original rom and copy it to your pc.
2. Download and install a new rom calkulin/clemsyn is nice. Use clockwork mod again to make a backup of that installation.
3. download another rom and install. Use clockworkmod to make a backup of that one.
4. When you've tried enough of them you can decide which one you like and restore it using clockwork mod.
5. Changed you mind? Restore one of the others!
6. Rinse and repeat as needed.
Remember Titanium Backup will backup your apps and data - so, if you install a new rom you can restore your apps and data. That means you don't have to go fetch them all in the market and you don't have to restart angry birds at level one.
There are lots of tutorials on how to do this stuff - read the stickys.
Good luck
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if you need vpn, cifs then you need a custom ROM
It depends on what capabilities you want. I need VPN and COFS so I use TNTL 4.4. Also, you can install alternate keybaords. The custom ROMs also tend to fix a lot of issues.
Shame on Viewsonic for locking bootloader in the 1.2 branch.
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. Being that Vegan is Honeycomb I just went with that though I really should have tried calkulin/clemsyn too as so many must like it for a reason.
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I know somebody is gonna see this and say something, so I figure I'll be the first to point out its gingerbread not honeycomb.
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I know somebody is gonna see this and say something, so I figure I'll be the first to point out its gingerbread not honeycomb.
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haha, GB is good almost HC good so far.
So i rooted my wife's tablet when 1.4.0 was on it. everything was working great....until 1.4.1 was pushed. The android market app, android email app and android clock app no longer open. Ive been searching for a solution and i think i may have found one without having to revert back to 1.4.0 and start all over again. If i understand this correctly, all i need to do is this:
Sideload the ADB root hijack.apk file
Follow the Indirect's ADB Root Hijack APP, Allows Root PATCH and Reentry of Root Script video
And i think thats it. Am i missing a step? Also, for what its worth, When i try running the new NThidden app and try to run the unknown sources script, i get a force close everytime. Does this mean that something isnt right with my root? Sorry if im not making some sense...pretty new to this rooting stuff. Thanks in advance.
Honestly, as someone who half knows what I am talking about, I think your best bet is to back everything up, factory reset, and then use the latest and greatest auto root program. This will have the addecd benifit of you never have to worry about it auto updating again!
Everything I have read says 1.4.1 was put in place by people who hate you and want you to be poor. =p
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Everything I have read says 1.4.1 was put in place by people who hate you and want you to be poor. =p
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It's not that they want you to be poor; they just want the money that you have to be theirs. They wouldn't begrudge you new money -- as long as you spend it on their services.
This is just me but I would factory reset and follow indirects method with alberts youtube vids..I know people have 1.4.1 going but Im sticking with 1.4.0 until I really need to update. Then watch alberts vids on how to block Over The Air updates and then you wont have to worry bout her tablet getting a forced update.
I'm having the same problem as GMcD.
AFAIK, I used the latest root script that should have blocked the OTA updates. Before I restore to factory and try rooting again, can anyone suggest how I can make sure that the OTAs are disabled again?
Is there any way to verify that the OTA updates have been disabled?
Thanks in advance!
PS much thanks to Indirect and Albert! Great work guys!
go to your settings then device info--> about your NOOK--> Software version should be 9.9.9 if not then it's not blocking OTA's
Frustrated...
Okay, I must be missing something and have hit the point of total frustration I have, I think, a fair amount of experience with rooting (DroidX, GalaxyS, GX2, Axtrix2 and NookColor with NF and HL+ running before they were allowed) so can only guess it's something silly or simple I am overlooking...
I bought my (3) kids NTs for Christmas since I own a fully rooted NC and saw the potential of the device for the price AFTER it was rooted. After they opened and registered them, I jumped online, D/L'd Indirect's scripts (YOU ROCK DUDE!) and had them rooted and on their way in an hour. 5 days later, the stupid 1.4.1 update hits (I was one of those who thought the root alone blocked the OTA) and jacked up all 3 devices.
I have tried EVERY post, hint and tip I can find here to get 1.4.0 back on these devices without success. Things I done:
- Factory reset MULTIPLE times (turning on wifi ONLY long enough to get past the registration screen)
- Downloaded the acclaim_update.zip file multiple times from multiple sites (latest one yesterday afternoon from Indirect's post). I have left it zipped, not changed the name and put it on the root partition of the card.
- Tried 3 different SD cards (all 2GB and have been used for rooting all my other devices without any issues), formatted from the PC and formatted from the NT
No matter what I seem to do, I can't get back to base 1.4.0. FR reverts back to stock 1.4.1 after reset and when I try to boot to the SD cards, the screen flashes a second like it's going to then just errors out saying try again or contact support. I "think" I have followed every post or trick to the letter, but can't get anywhere...
Anyone else seeing this problem or do I just have three jacked up tablets? Am I missing something?
I had just gotten mine rooted (using Indirect method), when I got hit with the update. Luckily I had a titanium backup. Here's what I did:
Restored 1.40 with sd card (did not even move my data, just copied the card to computer just in case it got wiped)
Rooted using updated Indirect method (smoother and easier than 1st time and set version to 9.9.9.
Then restored apps & data from backup (still on sd card)
Only trouble I had was with the drivers (I had to load a program to delete the drivers-don't recall the name but it's in Indirect's troubleshooting drivers thread)
Whole process was a pain but still only took a couple of hours.
Mike
I forgot one step in between the restoring and the rooting:
When I restored to 1.40 my n button wouldn't work so I had to erase and deregister the device (in settings under device info)
Then when I was able to connect I had to register again (no big deal)
Good luck,
Mike
FML
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Okay, I must be missing something and have hit the point of total frustration I have, I think, a fair amount of experience with rooting (DroidX, GalaxyS, GX2, Axtrix2 and NookColor with NF and HL+ running before they were allowed) so can only guess it's something silly or simple I am overlooking...
I bought my (3) kids NTs for Christmas since I own a fully rooted NC and saw the potential of the device for the price AFTER it was rooted. After they opened and registered them, I jumped online, D/L'd Indirect's scripts (YOU ROCK DUDE!) and had them rooted and on their way in an hour. 5 days later, the stupid 1.4.1 update hits (I was one of those who thought the root alone blocked the OTA) and jacked up all 3 devices.
I have tried EVERY post, hint and tip I can find here to get 1.4.0 back on these devices without success. Things I done:
- Factory reset MULTIPLE times (turning on wifi ONLY long enough to get past the registration screen)
- Downloaded the acclaim_update.zip file multiple times from multiple sites (latest one yesterday afternoon from Indirect's post). I have left it zipped, not changed the name and put it on the root partition of the card.
- Tried 3 different SD cards (all 2GB and have been used for rooting all my other devices without any issues), formatted from the PC and formatted from the NT
No matter what I seem to do, I can't get back to base 1.4.0. FR reverts back to stock 1.4.1 after reset and when I try to boot to the SD cards, the screen flashes a second like it's going to then just errors out saying try again or contact support. I "think" I have followed every post or trick to the letter, but can't get anywhere...
Anyone else seeing this problem or do I just have three jacked up tablets? Am I missing something?
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I am having the same issue. I have tried to dl, re-dl everything possible to get mine to go to a 1.4.0. i just received mine as a gift and tbh i dislike how you have to purchase every little thing on it. SOOOOOOO what can I do to get it to a 1.4.0. I can follow instuctions and just need to warm up on this new technology hehe.. Oh another thing, as im going by albert wertz video, i cant help but to notice that his NT starts at 9.9.9? If I can get mine to go to a 9.9.9 and then restarting from there, I can do that as well. PLZ HELP
my question is, TiBu needs root. Now mine becomes 1.4.1 and TiBu is not working. How can I back up my stuff before reverting it back to 1.4.0?
Unfortunately, you can't. I bit the bullet today and did the 1.4.0 restore, re-root and OTA block. I've had to re-download all my apps and lost any saved game data but it is worth it to me.
I had restored my son's NT and realized how much nicer it is to have a rooted device that didn't require adb commands for installing apps. The entire process took me about 45 minutes with about a third of the time waiting for large app downloads (Madden 12).
Hi, y'all. So I rooted my Nook Tablet awhile ago...I bought it in November 2011, I think, and I rooted it shortly thereafter using Indirect's method. It has been working great until the last 3 days. I am able to download books, but when I try and download apps (even from the B&N appstore), they always fail. I have gotten the following two messages. I tried googling solutions, but I only came across others with the same problem suggesting that you update to 1.4.3, which I will obviously not be doing since I will lose the functionality. Here are the errors:
Sorry! The application DeviceManagerService (process com.bn.devicemanager) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. Then there's a button to force close.
The second is: Sorry! The application DownloadAdmin (process com.bn.nook.dadmin) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. There's a button after that to force close.
Also, when the downloads fail it says it is because I may not have enough space for them, but there are like 10 gb left, so not sure what the problem is.
Anyone else experiencing this? I tried reinstalling the .apk files from Titanium Backup but it didn't help. Thanks!
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Also, when the downloads fail it says it is because I may not have enough space for them, but there are like 10 gb left, so not sure what the problem is.
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FWIW I've run into this "not enough space" type of error when I downloaded those apps that expect to store their data on the external SDcard while I didn't have a card in the SDcard slot.
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FWIW I've run into this "not enough space" type of error when I downloaded those apps that expect to store their data on the external SDcard while I didn't have a card in the SDcard slot.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I have a 32 gb SD card inserted, so that can't be the problem, either. That's why this is so frustrating!
Great. Now when I just restarted it, it is showing that it is back to software version 1.4.0 from 9.9.9. All I did was reinstall the devicemanager and download admin files; would this have somehow unrooted it?
Well, if root has been broken, can't you just root it again?
And if root is broken, you can also update to 1.4.3 before re-rooting, should you want to.
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Well, if root has been broken, can't you just root it again?
And if root is broken, you can also update to 1.4.3 before re-rooting, should you want to.
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Yes, I can re-root it, it's just a time consuming process with my ancient PC.
If I update it to 1.4.3, won't that block the ability to root it?
Nope, 1.4.3 roots fine with both Brian's and Albert's sd-card methods. (And probably any others as well, but those are the ones I have tried.)
Surely it can't be that time consuming, regardless of the age of your PC? Albert's card is under 100MB to download and then burn to SD. (Brian's is bigger.)
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Nope, 1.4.3 roots fine with both Brian's and Albert's sd-card methods. (And probably any others as well, but those are the ones I have tried.)
Surely it can't be that time consuming, regardless of the age of your PC? Albert's card is under 100MB to download and then burn to SD. (Brian's is bigger.)
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Are there any benefits to updating it to 1.4.3 if I plan to root again?
If you are running stock there were some bug fixes in the updated firmwares. Personally I would not run stock below 1.4.2.
If you plan to run for example CM10 the firmware doesn't matter.
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Thanks! Good to know about the firmware not mattering. Sounds like updating the software and then redoing the root is the way to go, even though it took forever last time.
How can I revert to 1.4.0 and start factory fresh with my NT?
Ok, please bear with me. I'm a noob, so don't know all the technical lingo for this stuff, so I hope what I'm saying will make sense. I was able to update to 1.4.3, but that took away the ability to use the Nook Color App Manager, which I love, because it kept all the apps on the Nook's stock screen, instead of having to switch to a different screen. I would like to try and remove 1.4.3 and go back to 1.4.0 (I also liked the ability to still have access to the in-store experience, and I haven't been to a B&N to see if that is still available with this root version). I tried using the process from Adam Outler to revert to 1.4.0, but it didn't work, and is still showing it is version 1.4.3, so not sure what I'm doing wrong. Is there a way to just remove 1.4.3? Somehow, when I ran the process to revert to 1.4.0, it reset my device like it should have, but it still seems to be rooted without the root ability (all the apps I have downloaded from Google Play are showing they are installed, but I can't access them from my NT and can't reinstall them). I'm guessing I need to re-root (I have down it twice, but then undone it trying to get back to 1.4.0). So...long story short, I think I'd just like to run whatever needs to be run to take my NT back to factory settings when it was first released in 2011 with 1.4.0. I have been searching for that, but just seem to find the same things I have tried. Can anyone please help with this? Thanks!
This is the thread I have followed most recently about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35089620
The repart.img that is mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836 will take you back to out of the box stock 1.4.0
You will loose everything you will to root again if you run it.
Great, thanks! Sounds like it is just what I was looking for.
asawi said:
The repart.img that is mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836 will take you back to out of the box stock 1.4.0
You will loose everything you will to root again if you run it.
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For some reason, it took it back to 1.4.2 rather than 1.4.0, but I'm guessing that 1.4.0 may no longer be available? At any rate, I got it re-rooted and it was still having the problems, so I just went ahead and re-updated to 1.4.3 and re-rooted, so thanks for your help!
Well, 1.4.2 is better than 1.4.0 anyway, so no problem there I guess!
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For some reason, it took it back to 1.4.2 rather than 1.4.0, but I'm guessing that 1.4.0 may no longer be available? At any rate, I got it re-rooted and it was still having the problems, so I just went ahead and re-updated to 1.4.3 and re-rooted, so thanks for your help!
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Did going to 1.4.3 and rerooting solve your problem? My Mother's NT is running a rooted 1.4.2 which I did ages ago, but recently on boot the BN downloader (or something to that effect) crashes and she can't download any BN apps because of it. She's also getting the out of space error you described.
I'm trying to convince her to switch to CM10.1 (which I did to my tablet not so long ago), but she refuses to do so until I can prove to her it's stable (personally I think the official RC is way more stable than the hodge podge that is the Nook OS any day, but she doesn't believe me since she's heard me complaining of the battery draining recently.) Either way I'd love to get her up and going again so she can go back to using it.
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Did going to 1.4.3 and rerooting solve your problem? My Mother's NT is running a rooted 1.4.2 which I did ages ago, but recently on boot the BN downloader (or something to that effect) crashes and she can't download any BN apps because of it. She's also getting the out of space error you described.
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Yes! It sounds like she was getting the same errors I was getting, and it fixed the problem when I took it to 1.4.3. I just miss the nook color app manager that would allow stuff from the non-B&N market to appear on my home screen, but I've gotten used to the two home screens now, and it seems to work faster than before. One thing I will mention is that the above method asawi mentioned with the repart image frees up additional space on the nook. I think it must have re-partitioned it as part of installation (hence the name). Whereas before I had 11 gb for B&N storage and only 1 for "other" storage, after I did that update, it changed it so it was about 8 gb for B&N and 5 gb for "other." I liked that, as I don't have all that much stuff from B&N on my nook, but have more than 1 gb of other stuff, but your Mom may want to know how it affects her B&N storage.
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I'm trying to convince her to switch to CM10.1 (which I did to my tablet not so long ago), but she refuses to do so until I can prove to her it's stable (personally I think the official RC is way more stable than the hodge podge that is the Nook OS any day, but she doesn't believe me since she's heard me complaining of the battery draining recently.) Either way I'd love to get her up and going again so she can go back to using it.
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If you're looking for a stable version of CM10, Succulent's CM10.0 dated 12/31 http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/cm10-0-jelly-bean-for-nook-tablet-uploading/ is very stable and its battery-consumption is not noticeably different than that of stock ROM.
The original post for the easy instructions to root the NT are a mess. The original instructions for doing it on Windows aren't even complete. I started building the files by following the Linux version of the instructions since they actually made sense and had the files you were to get.
If I'm not mistaken though I ended up using this to root the nook although it wasn't really what I was looking for considering I had CM7 and I would get a boot choice to go nook or android. That all stopped when the sd card I was using freaked itself and failed leaving me stuck at the N screen unless I pulled the SD card. My intentions were to leave the NT stock and not mess with it and run Cyanogen on the sd card. What it appears I'm left with though (without installing a rom) is a co-mingling Nook OS and Android OS since I'm now able to choose a launcher and I have Android screens with those launchers in the Nook itself. Which this is kinda cool because I don't have to reboot the system to switch to the reader anymore.
I installed Launcher 8 to give it some WIN8 love and easy access for my fiancee whom uses a mouth stick to get around in android easier. My problem I'm having is the android system doesn't seem complete. I'm assuming there are gaps missing or something because things are slow and some things aren't working when the icon is selected. Which simulates the program isn't actually there or the files to make it work.
Obviously there wouldn't be a phone but there are other things that used to work with the dual booting CM7 installed on the old SD card that aren't working now.
Since I'm not exactly sure if the above is how I ended up rooting the device I don't even know where to go from here to adding anything to it.
I'm not a developer and loaded this thing up about this time last year. The scenery has changed over the year and I'm kinda lost with all this again. Spent most of the day yesterday trying to figure out where I was and really got no where. So hopefully someone get's what I'm talking about and can give me the push in the right direction.
Not looking to make it dual boot again because this is easier for my fiancee to use like it is. Just want everything to work right like it should. I couldn't tell you what version android I have on here because I never actually loaded an individual rom yet there is android functioning on the device. My idea was to get the newest android which isn't 4.4 yet and is actually from what I can tell that is working would be JB. Yet I have no clue what this thing is running on with the loader and such I have on it.
I'm not enirely sure what it is you want, You say you don't want dual boot, and yet you talk about the non-wotking sd card as if you actually want dual boot.
Anyway, IF you want dual boot you don't need to root it at all. Just burn an sd card with a ready-made CM10.x image, pop it in and boot up. Then choose either internal, stock boot or run from sd-card.
Here is a link to a page with ready-made sd card image file:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
(This guy, Succulent, has inages of later versions of CM10.x as well, but this is the one I had a link to wothout having to go look for it.)
If you want the Tablet back to fresh "out of the box" condition you can use a repart.img that you can find by looking around a bit. I have referred to it in several posts, but I don't have a link at hand right now, Google is your friend...
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I'm not enirely sure what it is you want, You say you don't want dual boot, and yet you talk about the non-wotking sd card as if you actually want dual boot.
Anyway, IF you want dual boot you don't need to root it at all. Just burn an sd card with a ready-made CM10.x image, pop it in and boot up. Then choose either internal, stock boot or run from sd-card.
Here is a link to a page with ready-made sd card image file:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
(This guy, Succulent, has inages of later versions of CM10.x as well, but this is the one I had a link to wothout having to go look for it.)
If you want the Tablet back to fresh "out of the box" condition you can use a repart.img that you can find by looking around a bit. I have referred to it in several posts, but I don't have a link at hand right now, Google is your friend...
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*The non working sd card*
It was running as a dual boot before with cyogen or something like that and it would be selectable to go to Nook or the CM7 Android. That card somehow just died and can't even be seen in Windows anymore (have an rma filed with Patriot).
I rooted the nook and now I have what appears to be a partial android OS running inside the BN Nook OS but things aren't functioning. (I prefer it like this vs the dual boot way) So it's like I need a gapps file or something. All settings links lead to the Nook OS settings page and nothing get's me to the Android settings which is why I state it appears to be a partial Android OS. I don't even know what OS version it is because nothing fully functions with the Android side of things. (Take the Launcher8 Loader I installed. No icons actually open what they should. Selecting an icon leads to that icons settings and not what it should be opening. I have the same loader on my Skyrocket so I know how it SHOULD function and selecting an icon to get options for it is not correct. You have to press and hold to get the button to set the icon options.)
You won't get "proper" Android just by rooting. For that you need to install CM x.x. Either install it internally or run it from sd (that you apparently don't want to do)
I have not followed the particular root process you used, but both of the ones I have used myself come with gApps included.
The ones I have used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
Or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927#post21275927
The first one (Brian’s) require a 2 GB card the other one (Albert’s) just needs a very small card. (I think 128 MB would do, but I don’t have any that small to try)
Both give good instructions in their topics.
Both install gApps.
asawi said:
You won't get "proper" Android just by rooting. For that you need to install CM x.x. Either install it internally or run it from sd (that you apprently don't want to do)
I have not followed the particular root process you used, but both of the ones I have used myself come with gApps included.
The ones I have used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1488035
Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...7#post21275927
The first one (Brian’s) require a 2 GB card the other one (Albert’s) just needs a very small card. (I think 128 MB would do, but I don’t have any that small to try)
Both give good instructions in their topics.
Both install gApps.
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404 on the first link and not found on the other link. LOL Your having the luck I am.
LOL looks like you found out yourself.
scgt1 said:
404 on the first link and not found on the other link. LOL Your having the luck I am.
LOL looks like you found out yourself.
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Edited links so they work now.
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Edited links so they work now.
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Brian's method looks a hell of a lot familiar like that may have been what I did instead but the listing of apps with his doesn't match what I have on the nook now: (only thing I didn't put in the list was what I installed off google play which is launcher8)
android reader
car home
chess
contacts
crossword
downloads
email
es file explorer
flash player settings
getjar
google search
home
home manager
home catcher
hulu plus
music player
my media
netflix
news and weather
nook friends
nook video
nookhwtest
nookviewer
nt hidden settings
pandora
play store
sound recorder
spare parts
splashtop remote
sudoku
superuser
talk
testcenterservice
twitter
That is all the installed apps that pull up under the Nook OS with using Launcher8 and swipping the homescreen to the left it pulls up a list of installed apps just like windows phone.
It must be brians anyway because I just opened the nook hidden settings and under the about Nook Tablet Hidden Settings it shows:
Contact information: [email protected]
Version 0.5.0
I'm just going to move this over here:
asawi said:
This is the development section. Not meant for Q&A. I've already told you how you can return the Tablet to out of the box condition over in that section.
Sent from my Nook HD+ using Tapatalk 4
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It is the development section I am aware of that and can read. I'm in the 10.2 thread which is actually what I want running on the NT. So what better place to get the help for it then in the thread for it like everyone else has.
Actually you are incorrect as you say nothing about returning the tablet to stock out of the box. Must have been someone else your thinking of. I don't want it to be out of the box though. The nook OS was already setup with apps and books etc. I just want to reverse the rooting I guess to remove the stock android from it so I can then use the links you provided to create a correct root and dual boot using wait for it.....
CM 10.2
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Actually you are incorrect as you say nothing about returning the tablet to stock out of the box.
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Really?? Read the last two lines in my first post in this topic.
Also, there is a sticky on top of the topic list in the development section about what is meant to go there and what's not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499105
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Really?? Read the last two lines in my first post in this topic.
Also, there is a sticky on top of the topic list in the development section about what is meant to go there and what's not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499105
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Ok I stand corrected on that matter, but stock out of the box isn't what I want.
I'm not sure you can undo what you've done without loosing content. But as long as you backup your sideloaded stuff, your BN books and apps can be dowloaded at any time.
I suppose you can stay rooted and just disable your alternative launcher and what have you, but you said something about your system being slowed up, and I susoect fixing that without a wipe of some sort would be difficult. Could be wrong though snce I haven't dealt with that myself. Let's hope someone that knows better might come along with advice more to your liking.
While waiting for that you can always make one of the CM 10.x sd card images and run it.It will work completely independent from your trublesome stock OS.
System isn't slow at all also anything side loaded came from B&N so could also be redownloaded like the books. I was just hoping to keep all that intact as it was. There just aren't certain things working that should is all. I'm sure if I was a dev and understood all this stuff more clear I could fix it. I would rather take the easy cheesy way out and just redo it. lol Too much stuff around the house falling behind while messing with this thing.
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Not looking to make it dual boot again because this is easier for my fiancee to use like it is. Just want everything to work right like it should. I couldn't tell you what version android I have on here because I never actually loaded an individual rom yet there is android functioning on the device. My idea was to get the newest android which isn't 4.4 yet and is actually from what I can tell that is working would be JB. Yet I have no clue what this thing is running on with the loader and such I have on it.
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The BN stock ROM is based on Android v3.2 ("Honeycomb"). Rooting it essentially enables you to install additional apps beyond those that came with the stock ROM, either via the Playstore or by side-loading & installing the apps' .apk files (rooting packages/tools themselves typically add some commonly used apps (Email, Playstore, etc.) to get the user started).
The risk of using rooted stock ROM on the NT (especially as BN won't be releasing any more update for it) is you're stuck with the Android 3.2 base, thus as developers' support for 3.2 wanes over time you won't be able to install newer apps or even newer updates of many current apps. This same "Android version obsolescence" consideration also applies to CM7 and CM9.
As such I think it make the most sense to install CM10 to replace the stock ROM internally on emmc. If you value stability over having the latest/greatest bells/whistles, try Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12, or the CM official 10.1.3.
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The BN stock ROM is based on Android v3.2 ("Honeycomb"). Rooting it essentially enables you to install additional apps beyond those that came with the stock ROM, either via the Playstore or by side-loading & installing the apps' .apk files (rooting packages/tools themselves typically add some commonly used apps (Email, Playstore, etc.) to get the user started).
The risk of using rooted stock ROM on the NT (especially as BN won't be releasing any more update for it) is you're stuck with the Android 3.2 base, thus as developers' support for 3.2 wanes over time you won't be able to install newer apps or even newer updates of many current apps. This same "Android version obsolescence" consideration also applies to CM7 and CM9.
As such I think it make the most sense to install CM10 to replace the stock ROM internally on emmc. If you value stability over having the latest/greatest bells/whistles, try Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12, or the CM official 10.1.3.
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So CM 10 can replace the current android OS inside Nook? Or are you saying CM 10 will replace the Nook OS all together if put on the emmc?
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So CM 10 can replace the current android OS inside Nook? Or are you saying CM 10 will replace the Nook OS all together if put on the emmc?
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It will alltogether replace the Nook OS. As said in one of the posts in the development section thread they are mutually exclusive.
If you want to keep any of the original Nook functions you cannot run another Android veresion except from sd-card (meaning dual boot).
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It will alltogether replace the Nook OS. As said in one of the posts in the development section thread they are mutually exclusive.
If you want to keep any of the original Nook functions you cannot run another Android veresion except from sd-card (meaning dual boot).
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That's what I thought but the other user made it seem like CM 10 would replace the Honeycomb OS. So that leaves with with waiting for other input on the possibility to unroot without going to complete stock on the Nook..........
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That's what I thought but the other user made it seem like CM 10 would replace the Honeycomb OS. So that leaves with with waiting for other input on the possibility to unroot without going to complete stock on the Nook..........
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Unroot without going to complete stock??
Your options:
Unrooted = stock.
Rooted stock (what you run now) = stock but with access to system files and ability to use for example Google Play store.
Install CM 10.x internally = completely replacing Nook OS.
Dual boot: Running CM 10.x from sd card, leaving the Nook OS (rooted or unrooted, either works) internally. Remove sd-card or reboot through Cyanoboot (you can leave the card in the device) to get to Nook OS.
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Unroot without going to complete stock??
Your options:
Unrooted = stock.
Rooted stock (what you run now) = stock but with access to system files and ability to use for example Google Play store.
Install CM 10.x internally = completely replacing Nook OS.
Dual boot: Running CM 10.x from sd card, leaving the Nook OS (rooted or unrooted, either works) internally. Remove sd-card or reboot through Cyanoboot (you can leave the card in the device) to get to Nook OS.
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Yea haven't heard back from anyone on the returning to stock without the complete reset so It looks like I will be moving books over in the near future.
So I'm getting back onto this thing and finishing it up either tonight or tomorrow.
Resetting the Nook to stock can all be done via the nook settings correct? IE no sd card needed.
Followed all the steps in the detailed "[HOW-TO] Installing AOSP Android 7.0 "Nougat" Internally on the 16 GB Nook Tablet". During the process I was unable to install the suggested open_gapps-arm64-7.0. Tried several times, so right now I ended up with a mean and lean android system with 3 icons on the home screen. .
I'm a beginner doing this. So I attempted to copy superuser apk and the play store apk via usb connection to no avail. Don't even know where they ended up. I'm able to do a google search but it does not retain any bookmarks I'll be making, the reason being explained as I'll need an updated bookmark apk. (Which one??) and how do I install that?
Anyone out ther who can guide me in the right direction? Much appreciated. I do understand a little of the jargon being used in the forums here.
leenaud said:
Followed all the steps in the detailed "[HOW-TO] Installing AOSP Android 7.0 "Nougat" Internally on the 16 GB Nook Tablet". During the process I was unable to install the suggested open_gapps-arm64-7.0. Tried several times, so right now I ended up with a mean and lean android system with 3 icons on the home screen. .
I'm a beginner doing this. So I attempted to copy superuser apk and the play store apk via usb connection to no avail. Don't even know where they ended up. I'm able to do a google search but it does not retain any bookmarks I'll be making, the reason being explained as I'll need an updated bookmark apk. (Which one??) and how do I install that?
Anyone out ther who can guide me in the right direction? Much appreciated. I do understand a little of the jargon being used in the forums here.
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I'm sorry to tell you that those are the wrong GApps for the hardware. I will update the original instructions. What you need are the arm GApps, not the arm64 (remember, this is OLD hardware). The filename of the zip I used is open_gapps-arm-7.0-pico-20170310.zip
At this point, having done some fooling with the system, it's best to start the entire process over. That will give you the most stable result. You cannot install the PlayStore and have it function without GApps, so just forget that part. The superuser file I mentioned is a must, once you get the PlayStore working.
The Bookmark provider apk is already on the device. Re-read the second post in the instructions. You just have to tap to install it, for some unknown reason.
Thank so much for your quick response. You were absolutely correct that I was installing the wrong gapps, so I started over again with the 7.0 stock (error message), the nano (same thing) and finally the pico and that one worked. By that time I hit the sack. I found that out shortly after I posted the message. I kept reading and reading the instructions and completely overlooked the GAPPS choices I had. Even a very cryptic error message popped up that said something about "incompatible" and "arm". Duhh. So what I'm going to do is wipe it clean again (3rd time) and reinstall everything so I can do it in my sleep.
Regards
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Thank so much for your quick response. You were absolutely correct that I was installing the wrong gapps, so I started over again with the 7.0 stock (error message), the nano (same thing) and finally the pico and that one worked. By that time I hit the sack. I found that out shortly after I posted the message. I kept reading and reading the instructions and completely overlooked the GAPPS choices I had. Even a very cryptic error message popped up that said something about "incompatible" and "arm". Duhh. So what I'm going to do is wipe it clean again (3rd time) and reinstall everything so I can do it in my sleep.
Regards
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If you reformatted data as f2s, you might need to change it back to ext4 before you can do a successful wipe. Just a thought.
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If you reformatted data as f2s, you might need to change it back to ext4 before you can do a successful wipe. Just a thought.
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I'm lost. All I did during the previous wipes, went into Advanced Wipes and cleaned out everything. Did.n't format. So are you saying I format first (ext4) and then do a complete wipe? The last time I booted it seemed to be very unstable. Looked like an invisible finger was touching the screen. Jumped all over the place.
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I'm lost. All I did during the previous wipes, went into Advanced Wipes and cleaned out everything. Did.n't format. So are you saying I format first (ext4) and then do a complete wipe? The last time I booted it seemed to be very unstable. Looked like an invisible finger was touching the screen. Jumped all over the place.
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OK, I read your instructions again and think I know how to go about it. If all goe well during the installation ad it still seems unstable when booting I might ask for help again.
Thank you
leenaud said:
OK, I read your instructions again and think I know how to go about it. If all goe well during the installation ad it still seems unstable when booting I might ask for help again.
Thank you
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Me again. Everyting installed without a problem. Was able to get a couple apk from google plastore. Having said that, I also installed ES filemanager thinking it would give me root access. (no go.) No option under the developers option either. So gave up on that. Also I noticed that depending what apk I loade, the response time was rather slow. Also for no reason at all it came randomy up with "shutting down" messages. And it seems to execute some stored touch screens as it was going all over the place. At this point I'm going to be looking for something else. Again thank you for your help
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Me again. Everyting installed without a problem. Was able to get a couple apk from google plastore. Having said that, I also installed ES filemanager thinking it would give me root access. (no go.) No option under the developers option either. So gave up on that. Also I noticed that depending what apk I loade, the response time was rather slow. Also for no reason at all it came randomy up with "shutting down" messages. And it seems to execute some stored touch screens as it was going all over the place. At this point I'm going to be looking for something else. Again thank you for your help
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Sorry it didn't work out for you. It continues to perform very well for me. Seems like each piece of hardware has its own quirks.
Is this for the Nook 2016 or 2018 hardware versions, or does it work with both?
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Is this for the Nook 2016 or 2018 hardware versions, or does it work with both?
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Are you talking about the firmware upgrades for the original Nook Tablet or thinking about the various newer devices called by the same name?
This is for the OLD Nook Tablet BNTV250.