I want to test a theory guys. Anyone else who feels they want to be a part of this feel free.
This is what I want to do. I want to test the actual draw of the screen in a normal days use over 2 days. The first day set to ~25%, the second day set to 75%. What I want to see is how many minutes at those brightness the screen was on. And the difference in the usage on the battery on those 2 days.
You don't have to be dead on with your estimation of time the screen was on, but try to be within a few minutes. If there isn't much of a difference then I believe the screen actually is pulling power while "off" and killing our battery unnecessarily fast.
There is no reason on 12 hours of battery, with screen on less than 30 minutes total that it should consume 65% of the battery! I don't actually see my battery drain 65% right before my eyes while it is on, so something has to be happening behind the scenes.
Edit 1: Post a screenshot of your results from both days. Tell me what connection type you used through the day. What ~% your screen was set to on both days. I only need the screen percentage changed, as long as everything else is consistent it is irrelevant to this test.
Day 1 do a low 20-30% brightness, day 2 do a high 65-75% brightness.
Edit 2: I just realized that when under battery use you can click the specific process (here being Display of course) and it will give you the exact amount of time used by the screen. If you guys could, please post both screenshots, as well as give me the accurate amount of time the display used battery.
AtLemacks said:
There is no reason on 12 hours of battery, with screen on less than 30 minutes total that it should consume 65% of the battery! I don't actually see my battery drain 65% right before my eyes while it is on, so something has to be happening behind the scenes.
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I don't know if you ever had the original Dinc (I see an Inc 2 in your sig) but on stock ROM that phone constantly reported 60%+ Display usage no matter what you were doing, even lightly used. I crank my brightness down to like 20% permanently. I don't use it outside, so I don't need it super bright. Did it on the Dinc, and I'm doing it with the Rezound. Usually see display around 30-40% unless I'm using it heavily.
And it's not consuming 65% of the entire battery, that is 65% of the total drain is attributed to the display. SO if your battery has gone from 100 to 90% in 30 minutes, and 65% of that is display, your display has drained 6.5% of the total battery.
This is why I said over a day dude. I didn't say tell me what it says right now. If you don't want to be involved in the experiment don't bother posting in this thread. That goes for everyone. I stated 65% of the total consumption. If you really think I am an idiot don't waste mine or your time posting because you will just piss me off and I will report your posts.
If you had read the post correctly you would understand that I get 12 hours or less of battery life while only using the screen for maybe 30 minutes out of that 12 hours. Yet it reports 65% of the consumption is due to the screen even on 20% brightness. Theoretically that means I should be able to use my phone screen for 30 minutes straight and should be able to watch my battery drain 65% in that 30 minutes, which it does not. Therefor there is something else pulling power either stating it is the screen, or the screen is drawing power when off.
Hostility unwarranted. I misread your post, simple explanation.
I'll try cranking my brightness up and see what I get over a day of moderate use, how about that to make up for it?
Lol, Sorry man, I haven't seen you post here before. There are so many members who just post to post. Everyone has their 2 cents, you know what I mean
Appreciate it though!
I'm willing to try this. I'd have to start tomorrow. I also have a few basic questions.
1. How are you estimating time screen is on? Is there a way to do it other than just me paying attention? Cuz that's hard for me.
2. Does that stats page need to be reset at the beginning of each day? Also, where the hell is that thing? I've been to every setting on this phone exploring it and then when I want to find something again I can't!
3. Does it matter what power mode the phone is in?
And I was thinking to add to the test it might be interesting to see what having the screen on "automatic" would do.
1. I don't know of a surefire way, if someone else knows let us know! Otherwise, just a rough estimate is fine 30 mins ~35 minutes really. As long as you don't overshoot too much.
2. You don't need to reset the stats, they do it automatically after being on the charger for an extended period. So if you charge overnight and take it off it will only show from when the phone was disconnected. Settings >About Phone > Battery >Battery Use.
3. Power mode should have no relevance. But I am using "normal".
You're going to have to specify if WiFi or 4g/3g is to be used. I have noticed over the past few days that 4G consumes roughly 1.5-2%/hour less battery than WiFi does. On my Dinc, WiFi would draw a lot less power over time than 3G, but not so with the Rezound. So now I leave it on 4G while it sits idle at work unless I need to download something big, in which case I'll switch to WiFi, even though I have unlimited data and technically don't need to care lol. But I found that with WiFi and 4G both on and WiFi connected, my phone was burning like 5.5% per hour of battery. With 4G on only, I'm going through ~2.5% per hour (these are both with the phone sitting idle, usually in the morning when I'm busy at work). That's pretty much what my Dinc was doing on Wifi. I'll have to try it sometime with WiFi only on, and 4G off to see what happens.
But regardless, please specificy WiFi or 4G. Any testers that volunteer for this will need to leave that connection on as their sole connection during the duration of the test, save for a few mins of variance here and there.
Doesn't seem that should affect how much power the screen itself uses though. He just wants to test screen battery usage, not overall battery usage.
EDIT: Oh, if we are talking percentages then yes, it would matter. I generally leave my phone on 4g unless it decides to turn it off. And I switched to wifi a bit ago since I was required to to download an app from Amazon.
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You're going to have to specify if WiFi or 4g/3g is to be used. I have noticed over the past few days that 4G consumes roughly 1.5-2%/hour less battery than WiFi does. On my Dinc, WiFi would draw a lot less power over time than 3G, but not so with the Rezound. So now I leave it on 4G while it sits idle at work unless I need to download something big, in which case I'll switch to WiFi, even though I have unlimited data and technically don't need to care lol. But I found that with WiFi and 4G both on and WiFi connected, my phone was burning like 5.5% per hour of battery. With 4G on only, I'm going through ~2.5% per hour (these are both with the phone sitting idle, usually in the morning when I'm busy at work). That's pretty much what my Dinc was doing on Wifi. I'll have to try it sometime with WiFi only on, and 4G off to see what happens.
But regardless, please specificy WiFi or 4G. Any testers that volunteer for this will need to leave that connection on as their sole connection during the duration of the test, save for a few mins of variance here and there.
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You are describing exactly the opposite of my experience with 4G vs WiFi battery consumption.
Hmm, interesting. Maybe I just have really good 4G signal? I too thought it was weird, given my experience with the Dinc being exactly the opposite of the Rezound. Trust me, I'd love to know why it happens that way too lol. But again, I shouldn't care because I have unlimited data, and the 4G is faster than the WiFi here at work and about as fast as my home connection (I average on the lower end of the 4G scale, about 10-15Mbps), so I'll probably just leave it on 4G for now unless I'm at home and need to FTP to my laptop or something.
And feralicious, I agree to an extent, but to get truly accurate results we at least need to know what X person was using for data over Y person, since both connections will draw power at a different rate. The only other accurate way to do it would be to keep the phone in airplane mode. And since he's using approximately 5% per hour of battery, whereas I'm using 2-3%, maybe he's on Wifi where I'm on 4G. As in any testing you need to have a control along with the variables, and the data connection is a big variable that could easily be made a control. Just my $.02
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Hmm, interesting. Maybe I just have really good 4G signal? I too thought it was weird, given my experience with the Dinc being exactly the opposite of the Rezound. Trust me, I'd love to know why it happens that way too lol. But again, I shouldn't care because I have unlimited data, and the 4G is faster than the WiFi here at work and about as fast as my home connection (I average on the lower end of the 4G scale, about 10-15Mbps), so I'll probably just leave it on 4G for now unless I'm at home and need to FTP to my laptop or something.
And feralicious, I agree to an extent, but to get truly accurate results we at least need to know what X person was using for data over Y person, since both connections will draw power at a different rate. The only other accurate way to do it would be to keep the phone in airplane mode. And since he's using approximately 5% per hour of battery, whereas I'm using 2-3%, maybe he's on Wifi where I'm on 4G. As in any testing you need to have a control along with the variables, and the data connection is a big variable that could easily be made a control. Just my $.02
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Yeah, I just realized that and edited my post, didn't see you had responded.
For the record, 4g seems to pull more power than wifi for me as well.
Just post a screenshot of your results, tell me the amount of time your screen was on, and what your primary connection was. This is the only info I need. Your connection will only minutely affect the percentage that the screen draws. I only want to know the difference between screen high and screen low. So long as everything else is consistent on your end your results should be accurate for what I need.
Looks like I have to extend it out a day. I set my phone to 75% brightness and go figure it is the day that the network is having outages. My battery lasted ~2 hours today doing nothing.
Wow. 2 hours?!?! Will start the official test tomorrow as well but for the record my screen was also at 75% and I got almost 10hrs and I texted, shopped for and played with apps and watched a few app videos. I turned on wifi for a few hours due to network outtage.
Posting results even though they're not considered official. My screen was on approximately 1-1.5hrs in my estimation.
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AtLemacks said:
Looks like I have to extend it out a day. I set my phone to 75% brightness and go figure it is the day that the network is having outages. My battery lasted ~2 hours today doing nothing.
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lol I woulda been in the same boat, if I didn't have a coworker alert me that 4G was out. I hadn't looked at my phone all morning, and woulda had a dead phone from it constantly looking for a 4g signal.
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You are describing exactly the opposite of my experience with 4G vs WiFi battery consumption.
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Ditto!! I get way better life with wifi!!
As for the OP, good luck! I do not have time but I am interested in the results!
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Wow. 2 hours?!?! Will start the official test tomorrow as well but for the record my screen was also at 75% and I got almost 10hrs and I texted, shopped for and played with apps and watched a few app videos. I turned on wifi for a few hours due to network outtage.
Posting results even though they're not considered official. My screen was on approximately 1-1.5hrs in my estimation.
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Wow! That is good curve for 1-1/2 hours!
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lol I woulda been in the same boat, if I didn't have a coworker alert me that 4G was out. I hadn't looked at my phone all morning, and woulda had a dead phone from it constantly looking for a 4g signal.
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I had no idea, my phone was in my pocket and I was busy all day. Never felt it ever get warm, pulled it out of my pocket when I had some down time to check my G+/FB/Twitter and BAM.. phone wouldn't turn on. Luckily a friend had a charger and let me hook up. Turned on the phone to see the battery had actually died. I took it off the charger at 11:30 and it was dead before 2.
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Ditto!! I get way better life with wifi!!
As for the OP, good luck! I do not have time but I am interested in the results!
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Thanks, I will be trying high brightness again tomorrow.
I couldn't get a reliable test because I had a stupid setting left over from my experiment with Economy mode that turned WiFi off after 15 minutes, so my data is skewed a bit from the first day to the second. (Plus the roving 4G outages caught me last night and my battery went from full to 5% overnight.)
Also, I use an app called SystemPanel (bought the Pro version) which gives me nice plots of my usage and screen on time, if you're interested in more data like that, you could look into it.
I just realized last night if you click the process in the battery use window that it will show the time that process uses power. Soooo.... I need everyone to start from scratch and give me the accurate amount of time the screen shot is on, for both dim and bright settings. Sorry guys! OP updated.
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Given the recent run of battery posts, i thought i would join in. Yes you read it correctly; 98% after 5 hrs on battery. Thats with an up-time of 8:20, and an awake time of 1:51. During that time i checked and replied to a couple of emails(opened a photo attached) looked at pics in the gallery, and watched a 30 second video w/max volume three times. Also checked the weather several times to update the 5-day forecast.
So whats the secret? Dont open up any of the other screens after you reboot. Or, you can remove whatever you have on there and have only one active screen.
Heres the proof ( sorry about the crappy pic, all i had was my old Hero)
How do you do it can you explain a little better
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Well, I don't have a picture, but my battery is down 2 bars on the screen you are showing...so roughly 80% I guess. I have up time showing 39:17:xx and awake time of 12:51:xx. I've looked at some pictures of my cat several times (had to put him to sleep yesterday due to a degenerative disc disease that finally damaged his spinal cord to where he couldn't walk anymore ) I did a lot of texting, e-mailing, some web surfing, and updating some programs from the market. I also talked on the phone for about an hour.
What did I do for this? Well, the only account sync I have is GMail, all the other crap is turned off. I have the LCD brightness locked at about 20% (auto brightness unchecked), I use WiFi whenever possible since 3G sucks the battery, and the only widget I have running is the HTC Sense weather/clock thing. It is set to update every 4 hours. Otherwise pretty basic stuff.
Uptime and awake time don't mean anything in regards to your claim. That just means, since you last rebooted your phone has been up for 8 hrs 20 min, etc. What you have to show to backup your claim is the time since unplugged...
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Uptime and awake time don't mean anything in regards to your claim. That just means, since you last rebooted your phone has been up for 8 hrs 20 min, etc. What you have to show to backup your claim is the time since unplugged...
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Well, I don't really have to prove anything to you. We are not in court and I am not on trial. However, I can tell you I wake up every morning at 7:30 and unplug my phone which means, at the very least, the awake time is accurate. I didn't realize up time was only since last reboot. But still, sitting at 8/10 bars at 13 hours. If you don't believe it, then don't.
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Uptime and awake time don't mean anything in regards to your claim. That just means, since you last rebooted your phone has been up for 8 hrs 20 min, etc. What you have to show to backup your claim is the time since unplugged...
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OK, so its was on battery for 5 hours and I unplugged it at that time. Im not trying to brag, cause frankly the battery was pretty crappy for the first week. I believe the stand-by time on this phone is awesome, Im more concerned about how fast the battery drains once you start using it.
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How do you do it can you explain a little better
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When you reboot your phone, the only active screen is the home screen. If you long-press the Home button, you will see the other six screens blank. I left the other screens the way they came from the factory and found out that if you even look at them once, they seem to remain active even if they are not being updated.
I was charging my phone before I went to bed, and waking up with 95% (yes I minimized all the background updates). Then I would drive to work with BT on and it would go to 93%. 12 hours later, after two text messages and two voice mails, Im at 70%. Sure my up time was 19 hrs, but my awake time was 40 minutes max. So basically you need to keep everything but the essentials off your screens. This is my experience, as im sure there are people out there on 4G 8 hrs a day who come home with 50%+ on their phone.
Can I put apps on those screens so basically no widgets on any screen but the home
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When you reboot your phone, the only active screen is the home screen. If you long-press the Home button, you will see the other six screens blank. I left the other screens the way they came from the factory and found out that if you even look at them once, they seem to remain active even if they are not being updated.
I was charging my phone before I went to bed, and waking up with 95% (yes I minimized all the background updates). Then I would drive to work with BT on and it would go to 93%. 12 hours later, after two text messages and two voice mails, Im at 70%. Sure my up time was 19 hrs, but my awake time was 40 minutes max. So basically you need to keep everything but the essentials off your screens. This is my experience, as im sure there are people out there on 4G 8 hrs a day who come home with 50%+ on their phone.
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You don't have GPS enabled. That's cheating.
3G (or WiFI, 4G enabled) GPS, auto sync, backlighting, widgets, exchange, twitter, facebook, live wallpaper, all the reasons we bought the phone?! Those should be running at all times. (Otherwise, what exactly is the point? Srsly?)
If the battery life is still 3 hours then I am expecting a phone that hasn't and won't be built for 20 years.
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You don't have GPS enabled. That's cheating.
3G (or WiFI, 4G enabled) GPS, auto sync, backlighting, widgets, exchange, twitter, facebook, live wallpaper, all the reasons we bought the phone?! Those should be running at all times. (Otherwise, what exactly is the point? Srsly?)
If the battery life is still 3 hours then I am expecting a phone that hasn't and won't be built for 20 years.
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I think we use our phones very differently. I like those features but I don't have them on all the time. I use the GPS when I need to use a GPS. I look at FB or Twitter when I have time to look at them. Live wallpaper, while cute, doesn't do much for me. Exchange and Gmail push is about all I use regularly.
ExploreMN said:
I think we use our phones very differently. I like those features but I don't have them on all the time. I use the GPS when I need to use a GPS. I look at FB or Twitter when I have time to look at them. Live wallpaper, while cute, doesn't do much for me. Exchange and Gmail push is about all I use regularly.
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I get about the same when I'm working a 10-14. That's with checking exchange email, background sync and data on, sending texts on a normal basis, brightness about 30-40%, checking fb, etc etc. Battery doesn't drain much at all for me while it's sleeping which is great when I'm working these shifts and don't care to bring a charger.
Using GPS with location on and Sprint Navigation will drain that beast though, but that's expected.
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I think we use our phones very differently. I like those features but I don't have them on all the time. I use the GPS when I need to use a GPS. I look at FB or Twitter when I have time to look at them. Live wallpaper, while cute, doesn't do much for me. Exchange and Gmail push is about all I use regularly.
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Damn your finely worded post. Now I feel the sudden urge to re-evaluate my obsession with live wallpapers so I don't feel like a lame kid that likes something "cute"
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I had a epic 4g with extended battery 3500 mah and I would constantly use the phone even while at work.. At the end of the day my battery would be at 50%. On my evo 3d I use the phone even more now because its new and my battery would still be 50 % at the end of the day.
Fairly impressed
Doesnt the GPS only draw power if an app is actually using it at the time? So does it matter if you leave it on
Im pretty sure that if you leave your GPS on it will be put into "stand-by" mode, which in effect draws power. I could be wrong tho
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Heres the proof ( sorry about the crappy pic, all i had was my old Hero)
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that aint proof at all
use a program like battery status, that'll actually tell us how long its been since it was off the charger
but even from this, shows your phone doing a lot of sleeping
we'd be more impressed with a lot of battery left after actually USING the phone
I shut everything off that im not using. Only time my battery life sucks is when Im at work and get very low signal. That drains the crap out of the battery.
Plus I use Juice Defender, seems to provide some improvement.
After being unplugged and having used it as I described, after 20 hours I still had 68% of my battery charge. I don't have juice defender, but I made the adjustments I mentioned and the one I forgot to mention is I also turned off location services.
So far I am pretty happy with the battery life, but I also remember with the Epic I had amazing battery life for a month or so and then it was more like what is "average" for that phone. I'm no scientist, but I would guess that brand new lithium batteries do a little better and then when the chemicals start breaking down you lose that "little extra."
Sorry, I guess I should have included two pics. I do have battery status and it showed 5:05 since off the charger. I chose to post the other pic since I thought it meant more in terms of use. Sure it doesn't tell you how I was using it, just that it want sleeping for half of that time. Im not trying to impress anyone, i just thought it was a huge improvement from the past week where 5 hours off charger showed 70% battery left with only 40 minutes of up time (which resulted form a couple of VM and texts). So my point was along the lines of; more use, but huge improvement in battery consumption.
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that aint proof at all
use a program like battery status, that'll actually tell us how long its been since it was off the charger
but even from this, shows your phone doing a lot of sleeping
we'd be more impressed with a lot of battery left after actually USING the phone
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After being unplugged and having used it as I described, after 20 hours I still had 68% of my battery charge. I don't have juice defender, but I made the adjustments I mentioned and the one I forgot to mention is I also turned off location services.
So far I am pretty happy with the battery life, but I also remember with the Epic I had amazing battery life for a month or so and then it was more like what is "average" for that phone. I'm no scientist, but I would guess that brand new lithium batteries do a little better and then when the chemicals start breaking down you lose that "little extra."
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20hours, and almost 70% left?
i say super BS
because you know at that rate you can go almost 3 days with no charge right?
i know the evo 3d battery has bout 150 more mah then the 4G, but c'mon son
Well, this question is for my lucky friends who have their new toys
Battery life is so good?
Post your test here!
Don't have screens for ya but battery life is more than adequate. My gf and I used it for about 5 hrs last night and it dropped to about 45%
(Games, xda, Netflix, and just tinkering around)
I'm curious what kind of battery life you folks are seeing, now that you all have had time to get some real world experience with the NT.
Thanks!
10 hours of continuous usage with 25% brightness.
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Yea, the battery life and responsiveness of the device is definitely top notch.
I'm pissed as hell the bootloader is locked, but this device is an absolute steal for $250 bucks. Especially if you can manage to discount that price down.
Extremely responsive and awesome battery life considering I'm running max brightness and wifi 24/7.
I'm always surprised when I'm done using the Nook that it was still running. Granted, I ran it until it had only had around 20% left. But hey, if your sitting in one spot using your nook for more than ten hours, then you need to find something else to do. ^_^
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... if your sitting in one spot using your nook for more than ten hours, then you need to find something else to do. ^_^
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Good book, nice day, under a tree? Done that many times just reading off my PDA.
Thanks for the feedback!
The battery life is definitely adequate.
I can usually go 2 day without charging thus far. I keep brightness at ~20% or so (I can't stand brighter, it actually bothers my eyes).
I also use multi-picture-live-wallpaper and it doesn't seem to drain my battery at all.
I do some pretty heavy use of it as I am reading on it and studying for med school for probably ~6 hours at a time
Battery life is great. BN's numbers seem dead on.
Lasted the flight from San Francisco to Sydney
I'm getting around 10 or so hours of use at 2/3 brightness. Battery life is amazing on this. I charged it last night. Took it off the charger at 10am didn't touch it till 10pm tonight. It was at 99 percent then. I think it turns off wifi when it's sleeping.
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I'm getting around 10 or so hours of use at 2/3 brightness. Battery life is amazing on this. I charged it last night. Took it off the charger at 10am didn't touch it till 10pm tonight. It was at 99 percent then. I think it turns off wifi when it's sleeping.
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Yeah, it definitely turns wifi off on its own when sleeping
Yeah Ill echo the comments here, battery life is absolutely superb and the responsiveness of the unit for the price is fantastic. Sadly its a case of if only B&N....to fully realize what the tablet would be capable of.
I have to agree that battery life is amazing on this thing.
I've got wifi turned off full time (to avoid updates from B&N) and the battery just seems to last forever. Granted you always use less battery when you're not going online, but still, it seems to really really last.
Frankly it's making my phone quite jealous.
Umm, my nt's battery isn't as impressive as i hoped. I use 25% brightness, wifi on, no fancy live wallpaper. I noticed for every few minutes of sjurfing, battery would drop a percentage or so. For usage of about 3hr withoit wifi, i would use up about 40 %.
Anything i could do to tune it up a bit? I do noticed amazon appstore is always running, so is clock, contact, tb, and my yahoo mail app. Any help is appreciated.
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Umm, my nt's battery isn't as impressive as i hoped. I use 25% brightness, wifi on, no fancy live wallpaper. I noticed for every few minutes of sjurfing, battery would drop a percentage or so. For usage of about 3hr withoit wifi, i would use up about 40 %.
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That sounds about what I'm getting and I'm wondering whether it's defective or not (still within return window).
edit: Probably normal - ran into some threads on B&N's boards where other people are averaging 5-7 hours. If I idle / read, I get about 1% every 8-10minutes or so so B&N's time estimates were definitely not "video," "browsing" or "games." Wifi on, installing or rebooting a few times, it drops to 5-6 hours tops between 100% and close to 0%.
My phone gets -way- more time, even reading.
the battery on this is great one of the biggest things going for it. better than my phone for sure.
For you guys with bad battery life, you might want to try better battery stats. Then check for partial wakelocks. That's usually the culprit on my phone. It seems weird some of you are getting half the battery life of the rest of us. Personally I haven't even turned wifi off at all, and also haven't turned my brightness below half.
It's in the google market, it won't show up on the nook. I downloaded it on my phone then used the app share my applications then back up to sd. Upload to dropbox. Then download it with dropbox on your nook.
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For you guys with bad battery life, you might want to try better battery stats.
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I looked at this (and other battery programs), but wasn't sure what they did. Now I sort of do. I'll check it out! Wifi on definitely uses up at least 20-25%ish extra battery, and I *have* been moving a ton of stuff to/from sd cards and uninstalling and rebooting a lot, but the above did seem very short. Too bad there isn't a battery hardware test
Failing those applications it may be worth doing a full reset; Especially since most other owners are reporting MUCH better results.
Before I start nuking things around, I used BetterBatteryStats, check for partial wakelocks, and the highest % is from ActivityManager-Launch, which occupies 0.3% or 5minutes or so since I fully charged it.
Also, i noticed "Wifi Locked" is extremely high, like 89%, whereas wifi On is only 26%. What does that mean?
I'm not fully versed in how Android handles power management. So what should i be looking out for? Thanks!
I did not see anything in search for this here on the X2 forums so thought I would make a post...
My battery life seems horrid. I loose about 1% battery life for every minute the phone is in use. I have take some steps to improve this but wonder what more I can do. What I have done so far is this:
Disabled Auto-Brightness and set it to the lowest option.
Installed Screen Filter which let's you use an even lower brightness.
Deleted the in-pocket app, not sure if it even worked but better to be safe.
Disabled Wi-Fi since I don't really use it.
Disabled all location options unless needed.
Only have Google Accounts syncing.
Do not use a task manager.
Have Max Battery Saver enabled.
Have data turn off when screen is off.
Screen time-out is on lowest option.
11 hours on battery puts me at 22%, 47% of that time phone was idle. Screen was on for 2 hours and used 32% of the battery. Time without signal is at 0%.
Any further suggestions?
One of two things... Either your battery is shot and you need a new one or its lieing to you, get the batstat widget from the market, see what your actual voltage is, ive been ignoring the % on mine for a long time, unplugged it about 15 minutes ago and im "down" to "88%", but my batstat tells me how it really is at 4.165
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At what voltage or whatever will it turn off and not allow you to turn the phone back on? Last time I was down really low it showed like 3200.
All I know is two things that have drained my battery faster than normal. Location services and email automatically checking for new emails. I messed with those and get better battery life now.
3200 is dead, dont unplug it untill you show 4.2 ignore the 100% saying fully charged untill it gets to that 4.2
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Kind of sad that 3200 is dead... seems like so much more juice to go.
Ive had good luck with disabling network provided time under settings, date and time. My roommate has also had luck with it on his Bionic. My phone has had a lower cell standby percentage since.
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LordRalh3 said:
One of two things... Either your battery is shot and you need a new one or its lieing to you, get the batstat widget from the market, see what your actual voltage is, ive been ignoring the % on mine for a long time, unplugged it about 15 minutes ago and im "down" to "88%", but my batstat tells me how it really is at 4.165
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I agree with that!
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zakth said:
I did not see anything in search for this here on the X2 forums so thought I would make a post...
My battery life seems horrid. I loose about 1% battery life for every minute the phone is in use. I have take some steps to improve this but wonder what more I can do. What I have done so far is this:
Disabled Auto-Brightness and set it to the lowest option.
Installed Screen Filter which let's you use an even lower brightness.
Deleted the in-pocket app, not sure if it even worked but better to be safe.
Disabled Wi-Fi since I don't really use it.
Disabled all location options unless needed.
Only have Google Accounts syncing.
Do not use a task manager.
Have Max Battery Saver enabled.
Have data turn off when screen is off.
Screen time-out is on lowest option.
11 hours on battery puts me at 22%, 47% of that time phone was idle. Screen was on for 2 hours and used 32% of the battery. Time without signal is at 0%.
Any further suggestions?
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I Have a few questions:
Are you running Stock? If not what Rom are you running?
How old is the battery / phone?
4.2 volts is fully charged as mentioned earlier. Are you looking only at the %?
Have you every tried Juice Defender Unlimate?
Android.Ninja
I get around 11 hours of moderate/constant use.. But I feel as though I should get more. The Juice Defender Ultimate app works really good, but I'm flashing too constantly to keep up with it(when I did use it back in 2.3.3 I was averaging 15-20 hours on one cycle.
The main point to be made is to make sure your voltage is correct and ReCalibrate as needed.
One big thing that does help is to toggle off your auto-syncing(especially google). And if you feel the need to check your emails just go within the app and refresh. Also, in the motorola task manager(most of the ROMs have this), add apps to the list to auto close when the screen is off. This will turn off apps("completely") after 2 mins of screen off. Make sure you only kill the ones you don't want to run while screen is off(you may want to keep blue tooth and other similar SYSTEM apps running while screen off).
Juice Defender as stated works well, but I suggest you read a tutorial or guide because some of the options can "hurt" the features you want to use(ie. Wifi). I'm pretty sure there are Profile settings for when you are home/work/on the road, You can set it for different settings(IE. A charger should be at your house so you may want to allow WIFI/AUTOSYNC/etc to run free as opposed to at work, You may want syncing and data to toggle and only work every 30 mins or 1hr.) This does a VERY good job with battery life but as stated READ A GUIDE unless your willing to test for hours, plus you can get tips on better settings.
Your NOT going to get 3 days of battery life unless you turn off ALLLLLLLLL syncing options and just allow the Radio Antenna to run free with no 3g or 1x or wifi or gps.... but I hope the tips I gave help XD
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Also, Everywhere I have read 3g and WiFi consume more battery than 1x.... I HAVE TO DISAGREE 1000%! If you live in an area that has MULTIPLE cellular companies(a city for instance) Only allow connection to your HOME network! In the Network Settings you can set this to Automatic or Home. Choose HOME! And test to see where you drop connection and such. But if you live in an open area, you should have NO problems. This will also help out TREMENDOUSLY on your battery life because you won't exchange across 6 or more nodes every 15-20 minutes while driving or even in an office complex or wherever(I'm an EMT so I'm on the road). But if you live in an area where cellular reception THROUGH VERIZON is bad(more Local Towers than Verizon Towers) then I suggest you keep the auto on, unless you can stay within your Verizon towers. <<<<<Hope that makes since.
I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Dillsnik said:
I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
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how much screen on time do u get?
Cozzeck said:
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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This happened to me since i first got the phone it has slowed down and now the phone can last through the day ever since at&t throttled me for this month goes without saying ill take it easy next month. so most likely if your in an lte area thats the problem
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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If it's notbthe stock charger you areblikely not using a rapid charger.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
You honestly can't use any phone on GPS without external power and expect that you're not going to discharge quickly. Assuming that you are running a car charger during GPS and just didn't say so, search the i-717 threads, since the topic has been well vetted on what chargers are more effective,etc. There are definite differences.
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
When I first got my i717 and was using it on the stock rom I had pretty terrible battery life. I take it off the charger at 5:00am and had decent battery life (around 5 to 7 hours without GPS) but I use my phone a lot for internet/email. I think your battery life is completely normal given your usage.
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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lastdeadmouse said:
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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khaytsus said:
I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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i can get about 3 or so
5 hours of screen time AND 19hours standby sounds incredible
would sure like to see screen shot as well
and def dont think 5 hours is any type of avg
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
itsnowornever said:
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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and whats your screen on time for that 12 hour 6am-6pm with 50% still left please?
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
kimtyson said:
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Was thinking of doing that since they're so cheap but thanks to juice defense I don't really have that issue no more.
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I had a ss of my buddies yesterday, but can't restore mms lol. There are plenty of other ss in the note section. He was at 22+ hrs with about 4:30 of screen on and some % remaining. I have to charge around 7-9 everynight at 4-4:30 hrs screen on, but my use is pretty heavy. I sync 4 gmail accounts, a separate GV, 3 calendars, and several apps.
If yours is much worse than that, you likely have a few troublesome apps or are playing games. First, after a full charge, reset cpuspy timers, lock it, and set it down for a few hours (I know, impossible). Then check to see that your CPU has been in deep sleep about 95% of the time. If not, use better battery stats to see what has been request wakelocks. Not only the most total time, but the total number. Any app that looks outrageous, freeze it or uninstall it. For system processes that look troublesome, Google. You can often find simple tricks online that will tell you what's causing them to go crazy. Beyond that, turn off syncing of anything that isn't needed or doesn't matter (like Facebook), and uninstall stuff you never use.
Another slight help is the brightness widget (don't use the actual widget, just put the app on your homescreen, it works the same) or dimmer in market as they can both set the brightness to a value of 10 (Samsung lowest stock is 20), and even if you can't tell the difference, it helps. Jkay settings in saurom can set the auto brightness profile slightly darker than stock. Umm, and the obvious, use less Widgets, longer sync intervals, processor scaling and speed profiles, and buy a couple rapid chargers, wall and auto.
A couple things to note after seeing a few of these posts...
BT can be on, but without it searching, connected, or listening it's not active.
GPS isn't active unless its in use aand you see the icon in the notification bar. That being said, fb, websites, and many other apps that request location will activate it.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!! I have no issues I use my phone heavy all day and get 15 hours and I still have 20% left. All you have to do is
1) Charge you phone until it says "charged"
2)Leave phone plugged in and power off and let it charge until the battery meter literally says "100" (screen will sleep so you can check with volume rocker to light screen)
3) power on phone and let boot and than power off and wait till you see 100% again
4) now keep doin this and you will notice it will start displaying "100%" faster and faster usually takes 6-7 times cycling like this
5) After you do this download Battery Caliberation (root required) app from market and hit the caliberate button and boom your good to go
I do this on every android phone I own when I flash a new rom or purchase a fresh one. Everyone should do this everytime you flash a new rom and I can CONFIRM significant battery longevity on all my android phones I have done this with
You only have to do it once so just get it out the way and you'll get through a whole dayand have some juice to play with.
I get 15+ hours and do not any battery juice defender apps
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Underground_XI said:
The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
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Just to be clear here, Tasker has nothing to do with battery life. It doesn't hurt it, nor "help" it. However, you certainly could write tasks/contexts that would decrease battery life, and there are a few scripts out there which do silly stuff like autokilling, etc... But if we're talking "battery savings", Tasker and JD do not go in the same category.
IMO JD is only useful if you're frequently in an area with no signal, like you work in a basement or deep inside of a solidly constructed building. Since you mentioned Tasker, in this context it does help me a bit on battery because my wifi turns off when I leave the house, but that's also something JD can help with. If you don't have a wifi connection it'll turn off wifi (and I believe turn it back on periodically to see if there's one available?) I don't use JD, so can't speak too much for it.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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Hour? Hour and a half? I'm working during that period. I usually hit news sites and G+ when I'm first at my desk in the morning, so that's 30 minutes or so off and on looking at it, then perhaps an hour over the rest of the day, sometimes more at lunch.
I'll look closer today and post back.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!!
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Complete nonsense. https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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All in my sig.
I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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SightSeeker said:
This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.