Hello guys, i would like to know the truth, sgs2 vs ip4s in performances wise, ui, gpu and cpu.. Which is better? And which is closest to the future technology? My question is more to performance quality in every aspect as mentioned above.
Samsung Galaxy S2 or iPhone4S?
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You're asking this question in a bad place. Everyone here will simply say SGS2. Not just because it's better, but because we all love it . I'm pretty sure the SGS2 beats the iP4S in every aspect other than screen resolution. Not to mention that you are massively hindered by apple's OS on the iP4S...Unless you think SIRI is a good enough reason for you buy an entirely new phone of course...and I think I heard something about Carrier IQ being on most iPhones? I checked my SGS2 for it and it's clean... I'm using CRR v4.
Im not iphone user, i have 2 sgs2 in my hand, what im going to approach is about the performances since i heard so many things about iphone beat sgs2 in performance wise. My Sgs2 running at 1.8ghz oc, dual boot os, miui and cyanogenmod nightly. and i did several speed test with my friend's ip4s jailbroken, nothing can over my sgs2, but out there, many media said ip4s did better.. Is it just a hoax made by iphone's fan? Or if it is true, do tell me..
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neobirdrio said:
Im not iphone user, i have 2 sgs2 in my hand, what im going to approach is about the performances since i heard so many things about iphone beat sgs2 in performance wise. My Sgs2 running at 1.8ghz oc, dual boot os, miui and cyanogenmod nightly. and i did several speed test with my friend's ip4s jailbroken, nothing can over my sgs2, but out there, many media said ip4s did better.. Is it just a hoax made by iphone's fan? Or if it is true, do tell me..
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IP4s does not have a public jailbreak yet.
In term of hardware only!
Apple iPhone 4S
cpu Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU PowerVR SGX543MP2
Samsung Galaxy S II
CPU Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU Mali-400MP
SGS2 beat 4S in cpu (same cpu but SGS2 got higher clock)
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4S beat SGS2 in GPU cause PowerVR SGX543MP2 is more powerful than Mali-400MP
BTW,I'm SGS2 user
tEsT_MaStEr said:
In term of hardware only!
Apple iPhone 4S
cpu Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU PowerVR SGX543MP2
Samsung Galaxy S II
CPU Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU Mali-400MP
SGS2 beat 4S in cpu (same cpu but SGS2 got higher clock)
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4S beat SGS2 in GPU cause PowerVR SGX543MP2 is more powerful than Mali-400MP
BTW,I'm SGS2 user
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Actually its underclocked to 800mhz
neobirdrio said:
Im not iphone user, i have 2 sgs2 in my hand, what im going to approach is about the performances since i heard so many things about iphone beat sgs2 in performance wise. My Sgs2 running at 1.8ghz oc, dual boot os, miui and cyanogenmod nightly. and i did several speed test with my friend's ip4s jailbroken, nothing can over my sgs2, but out there, many media said ip4s did better.. Is it just a hoax made by iphone's fan? Or if it is true, do tell me..
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do you actually need those people opinion? i dont care if other phone outperformance my phone, as long as i love it. i love android especially so any phone is ok as long as its not iphone. give me a quad core iphone and i'll sell it to buy a desktop pc! even dual core(4S) is more than enough actually.
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Actually its underclocked to 800mhz
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Doesn't matter, it still outperforms the GSII in most benchmarks. But, then again the GSII is 6 months old, and doesn't have ICS yet. I suspect that the GSII should be able to beat the iPhone 4S in most benchmarks, especially browser (Sunspider) tests. The iPhone 4S definitely has the most powerful GPU out of any mobile smartphone right now
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Actually its underclocked to 800mhz
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Sorry for my mistake. I forgot that they down clock it for battery life in iPhone but not in iPad.
Im reading all your opinions guys, dont get me wrong, im sgs2 user, i just wanna ask you guys for opinion, which i dont know about.
Thank you.
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Sorry for my mistake. I forgot that they down clock it for battery life in iPhone but not in iPad.
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So thats mean ip4s running at 800mhz.. On iOS5?
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King Shady said:
Doesn't matter, it still outperforms the GSII in most benchmarks. But, then again the GSII is 6 months old, and doesn't have ICS yet. I suspect that the GSII should be able to beat the iPhone 4S in most benchmarks, especially browser (Sunspider) tests. The iPhone 4S definitely has the most powerful GPU out of any mobile smartphone right now
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A benchmark like Sunspider tests not only the phone's CPU but also the browser. So Apple's highly optimised Safari can still beat the SGS2 even with a slower CPU. You are benchmarking both the CPU and the browser together, and in the SGS2 the browser is not the speediest one out there. So eventhough it has a quicker CPU, the browser is holding it back in Sunspider.
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So thats mean ip4s running at 800mhz.. On iOS5?
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Yeah only because of ios optimization its fast. Other than that its nothing compared to sgs2.
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Yeah only because of ios optimization its fast. Other than that its nothing compared to sgs2.
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Lol, thanks, your answer made laugh.
"other than that its 'nothing' compared to sgs2"
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A benchmark like Sunspider tests not only the phone's CPU but also the browser. So Apple's highly optimised Safari can still beat the SGS2 even with a slower CPU. You are benchmarking both the CPU and the browser together, and in the SGS2 the browser is not the speediest one out there. So eventhough it has a quicker CPU, the browser is holding it back in Sunspider.
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Seems like you familiar with iphone, is there any other thing that (optimized or standard) that could beat sgs2?
Please describe, i would like to know.
Thanks for your response.
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http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-apple-a5-and-vs-samsung-exynos-4210/
All the information about the iphone4s A5 GPU being more powerful is hogwash. It's a dual core based GPU, while the GPU can support up to 4 cores and is at a higher clock speed.
From a hardware perspective the Galaxy S 2 is superior in every way.
fulaman said:
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-apple-a5-and-vs-samsung-exynos-4210/
All the information about the iphone4s A5 GPU being more powerful is hogwash. It's a dual core based GPU, while the GPU can support up to 4 cores and is at a higher clock speed.
From a hardware perspective the Galaxy S 2 is superior in every way.
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I'm sure I can find some random website to validate whatever view you want it to. I chose to look at a site like anandtech that looks purely at the facts. The facts are pretty straightforward, the GPU in the A5 chip used by the i4S is currently the best available on any smartphone. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/6
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neobirdrio said:
Seems like you familiar with iphone, is there any other thing that (optimized or standard) that could beat sgs2?
Please describe, i would like to know.
Thanks for your response.
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The apps for iOS are much better optimized for the iPhone than Android. iOS currently has no fragmentation to worry about so an app that works on the 3GS should work fine on the i4S. An app that works on my SGS2 probably won't work on my Sensation due to different screen resolutions. IMO apps for iOS are in general more polished when used with iOS.
The biggest difference between the SGS2 and i4S are AOSP and screen size. 4.3 inches looks gigantic compared to 3.5. Open source is always better than closed source IMO.
Both devices are excellent, just depends what you intend on using the device for.
Hmm i4s vs SGS2, i owned both, got an iphone FIRST because i know everyone loves it and everyone has it, so i went with the majority and i must say, woow thse iphone ppl are missing out on simplicity of use of andoid. I ****ING HATE the iphone for the following:
1. Bought a locked phone, had to buy a special sim to activate it. Y MAKE LIFE HARDER??
2. Pain in the ass to unlock it, used gevey. Y?
3. Cant use bluetooth to send data
4. Cant put a custom ringtone in a few easy steps
5. I dont need my phone to tell me what to do. I say: i want a new song. He says: stfu and connect me to itunes because there is NO other way you can do it.
6. Want to sync multiple folders w/pics, you cant. All pics have to be in the same destination.
7. Tiny screen, hate it.
8. Took a picture. Your options are: delete, and send. What happened to: details, crop, rotate left/right.
9. Connect to itunes only at home?? Wtf. (Or did they make it so you can connect to 5 PCs/MACs per phone now?) Even though, you could be at the 6th computer, and then what? You are screwed.
Conclusion: VERY limited capabilities. Maybe there are walk arounds to the things that piss me off, but when i buy a 600$ phone, i dont wanna be sitting for hours and googleing how to do this, and do that. Iphone has icloud imessage siri and all that ****, but honestly, id rather have open sourse over ALL OF THAT ANY DAY!!!
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I'm sure I can find some random website to validate whatever view you want it to. I chose to look at a site like anandtech that looks purely at the facts. The facts are pretty straightforward, the GPU in the A5 chip used by the i4S is currently the best available on any smartphone. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/6
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Hmm great find, I'm surprised that the GPU on the 4S would be superior given the fact that Samsung manufactured the A5 chip. One would think that the A5 chip being a month older would be slightly inferior or equal.
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Deniska11 said:
Hmm i4s vs SGS2, i owned both, got an iphone FIRST because i know everyone loves it and everyone has it, so i went with the majority and i must say, woow thse iphone ppl are missing out on simplicity of use of andoid. I ****ING HATE the iphone for the following:
1. Bought a locked phone, had to buy a special sim to activate it. Y MAKE LIFE HARDER??
2. Pain in the ass to unlock it, used gevey. Y?
3. Cant use bluetooth to send data
4. Cant put a custom ringtone in a few easy steps
5. I dont need my phone to tell me what to do. I say: i want a new song. He says: stfu and connect me to itunes because there is NO other way you can do it.
6. Want to sync multiple folders w/pics, you cant. All pics have to be in the same destination.
7. Tiny screen, hate it.
8. Took a picture. Your options are: delete, and send. What happened to: details, crop, rotate left/right.
9. Connect to itunes only at home?? Wtf. (Or did they make it so you can connect to 5 PCs/MACs per phone now?) Even though, you could be at the 6th computer, and then what? You are screwed.
Conclusion: VERY limited capabilities. Maybe there are walk arounds to the things that piss me off, but when i buy a 600$ phone, i dont wanna be sitting for hours and googleing how to do this, and do that. Iphone has icloud imessage siri and all that ****, but honestly, id rather have open sourse over ALL OF THAT ANY DAY!!!
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I agree with this assessment, I played around with an iPhone and was surprised with its sending options when using SMS/MMS, Android has far more options. I don't have a GSII, I have the original Galaxy S, so I know that back when one did a side by side comparison with iphone 4 and Galaxy S, the Galaxy S beat it in every department except screen resolution. I thought that the trend would continue.
neobirdrio said:
Hello guys, i would like to know the truth, sgs2 vs ip4s in performances wise, ui, gpu and cpu.. Which is better? And which is closest to the future technology? My question is more to performance quality in every aspect as mentioned above.
Samsung Galaxy S2 or iPhone4S?
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Hi there.
Today I will swap my SGS2 for an IP4S. Why? Here I say, in order of importance:
1) iPhone camera is better.
2) better or equivalent benchmarks altough SGS2 has better hardware specs (this link elucidates everything http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/6)
3) 4.3 screen is too big for my hands and the iPhone screen has better resolution+pixel density.
4) better OS design (I don't care about the flexibility of ROM customisation, and the stock aspect from Samsung really sucks, even with another launcher and also other roms)
5) The aluminium/glass handles better the processor overheat than the plastic body from our SGS2.
I am aware the iPhone has also negative aspects compared to SGS2, but the most important aspects (for me) are covered above.
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What do you think about this review? GSII won in all of the tests
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo-3d-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-2-video
Personal preference is what it comes down to for every phone and person in the world. There is no such thing as the best phone, just the best phone for each person.
That said, who cares about this review? I like my EVO3D, period. Might another phone be slightly better in some areas, sure. Does it matter, no.
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It won by like one milla second in real world you will not know the difference
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I'll admit that the processor in the sgs2 is better in benchmarks but man he sounded really bias.
What I love about all these Galaxy S II comparisons is the fact that the phone IS NOT YET AVAILABLE IN THE US!!! Carrier variants are known to have differences (HW & SW wise, especially in the US) so the small edge the test unit may have on Evo 3D can easily disappear once the REAL choice is available... just my $0.02
l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
I'll admit that the processor in the sgs2 is better in benchmarks but man he sounded really bias.
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Is this due to synchronous vs asynchronous dual cores?
Does the "comparison" mention that the Samsungs build quality is the lowest of it's kind?
That the screens have these "weak spots" where it you press it too much they'll go black/dimmer?
They the charger port goes bad VERY quick and need to be replaced probably within the first 6 months.
That the speaker phone ALWAYS sounds like there's plastic film stuck in it?
I've had many Samsung phones, the only one I liked was the VERY first one I ever had back in 2002.
I'm no HTC nuthugger(because fk HTC for not releasing the unlocked bootloader) but HTC builds better phones. Simple.
Will have to revisit the test once the phone is actually available on the Sprint network, with the Sprint bloatware loaded on the Sammy. The GS2 is obviously a good phone, but this test isn't apples to apples.
Sammy sure knows how to make a gorgeous screen though
that superamoled + blows the superlcd on the evo3d away
the person who mentioned carriers will nerf **** too is correct
T-Mobile's Sensation has 7 something mb of ram, the evo's same hardware/phone almost but has 1 gb
Carriers lower the amount of ram to save money all the time, among other things, could result in a worse phone
I don't understand why Samsung insists on not making a good qHD screen tho with it....
Yes, the difference in benchmark scores is due to the differences between how the processors run. (synchronous vs. asynchronous)
on every day use, you cant see a difference between a really good single core vs dual core. Yes when you bench it, you see a difference. I mean we use our phones to use them everyday and bench them every day.
I really doubt you would see the difference between sgs2 and evo3d processor on everyday use.
This is like having a dual chip graphics card and running it on a 17inch monitor and not even use all the power. That is what android is right now, it is just not that demanding. I still highly doubt on every day use you will be able to see a difference between snapdragon dual core or samsung's new processor even with ICS.
I always though the benchmarks where due to the way the cores are set up/different. But I clocked my evo 3d to 1.8Ghz and ran quadrant on the performance governor. The highest I got was 2985. Now if I am correct, both cores should be maxed out due to the governor set by setcpu. If this is the case, the gs2 still beats the evo3d easily, even with the evo3d clocked to 1.8ghz.
I don't feel like this can be correct, but maybe it is? Maybe the exynos are that much better?
Or could it really be that sense 3.0 is a hog? I mean, with the hero, once it is on asop, you see a near 100% increase in scores.
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Is this due to synchronous vs asynchronous dual cores?
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Doubtful since benchmarks that utilize one or both cores still favor the sgs2
hydrogenman said:
Sammy sure knows how to make a gorgeous screen though
that superamoled + blows the superlcd on the evo3d away
the person who mentioned carriers will nerf **** too is correct
T-Mobile's Sensation has 7 something mb of ram, the evo's same hardware/phone almost but has 1 gb
Carriers lower the amount of ram to save money all the time, among other things, could result in a worse phone
I don't understand why Samsung insists on not making a good qHD screen tho with it....
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depends on the person. I personally think that super amoled screens are over saturated, I looked at the droid charge at verizon store and I really didn't like how the colors were on the icons. Yes its a beautiful screen but I myself prefer slcd better, just because it seems like the colors are more naturals on it.
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I always though the benchmarks where due to the way the cores are set up/different. But I clocked my evo 3d to 1.8Ghz and ran quadrant on the performance governor. The highest I got was 2985. Now if I am correct, both cores should be maxed out due to the governor set by setcpu. If this is the case, the gs2 still beats the evo3d easily, even with the evo3d clocked to 1.8ghz.
I don't feel like this can be correct, but maybe it is? Maybe the exynos are that much better?
Or could it really be that sense 3.0 is a hog? I mean, with the hero, once it is on asop, you see a near 100% increase in scores.
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sense probably has something to do with it. It is a resource hog, although it runs smooth, it does eat up a lot of resources.
BlueGoldAce said:
I always though the benchmarks where due to the way the cores are set up/different. But I clocked my evo 3d to 1.8Ghz and ran quadrant on the performance governor. The highest I got was 2985. Now if I am correct, both cores should be maxed out due to the governor set by setcpu. If this is the case, the gs2 still beats the evo3d easily, even with the evo3d clocked to 1.8ghz.
I don't feel like this can be correct, but maybe it is? Maybe the exynos are that much better?
Or could it really be that sense 3.0 is a hog? I mean, with the hero, once it is on asop, you see a near 100% increase in scores.
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I had the SGS2 for 3 weeks and the benchmarks do NOT reflect real world performance. The SGS2 did download web pages faster...by like maybe 3-4 seconds.
The build btw, feels way better than the current ones out...stronger plastic, matted back.
Even the gorilla glass website says our device does not have Gorilla Glass on it.
Love the review.
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on every day use, you cant see a difference between a really good single core vs dual core.
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let me stop you there, and just say you're full of it
This phone has a dual core 1.2 ghz, just came from the Infuse on AT&T with a 1.2 ghz single core. it's fine most of the time, but has annoying lags when it's doing things (installing apps comes to mind, among some others)
The evo's really yet to ever stutter or lag like the Infuse did.
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I had the SGS2 for 3 weeks and the benchmarks do NOT reflect real world performance. The SGS2 did download web pages faster...by like maybe 3-4 seconds.
The build btw, feels way better than the current ones out...stronger plastic, matted back.
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Do you have the evo3d now? How would you compare/rate both phones?
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Do you have the evo3d now? How would you compare/rate both phones?
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It really is preference. I am looking for camera quality and SGS2 is better there so I might be moving there. The speaker quality is really good on S2 also.
But some like the heavier/build quality of HTC better. Many don't like the super amoled Samsung screens. If you love Sense its Htc. (I use launcherPro). The dev community will be stronger undoubtedly for Evo...(although SG2 was rooted immediately.)
But...it is megalight, powerful and yep, sexy.
All that said...might not see it released for a while...some release issues were reported yesterday. Google around.
Okay, so I just ran the CPU Benchmark test and got 1100mhz and 1000mhz with 430ms and 497ms.
What's everyone else getting? Just curious to compare numbers.
I stop benchmarking back when i had the heroc lol. Scores don't really mean anything. ****ty phones out score dual core phones at times, so my advice would be 2 just delete any benchmark apps on your phone asap or scores will drive you crazy...take it from someone thats owned at least 15 android devices since launch its for the best.
FYI overclocking is out and undervolting is in. These days these phones are already fast enough id undervolt to save battery
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I stop benchmarking back when i had the heroc lol. Scores don't really mean anything. ****ty phones out score dual core phones at times, so my advice would be 2 just delete any benchmark apps on your phone asap or scores will drive you crazy...take it from someone thats owned at least 15 android devices since launch its for the best.
FYI overclocking is out and undervolting is in. These days these phones are already fast enough id undervolt to save battery
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That is your opinion, and to me your opinion is bleh. I love benchmarks and they do mean quite a bit regardless of what you might think. Undervolting isn't in for me at all, I want max overclock with max over volt. I care less about battery saving, these phones do not save battery and minusing a little voltage from the CPU will not only make it severely unstable it is sometimes worse than overvolting. I have been overclocking since the 333mhz CPU. And I can tell you that benchmarks do mean a lot, they tell you quite a bit about your setup and what you could improve on. Not just one single benchmark, you would need a few. That is my main reason for flashing. I want a fast phone, not just fast, faster than yours! That is just how I am.
I would not suggest deleting your benchmarks, keep them, and compare, always, then you will know your phone, and I mean really know your phone. That is my opinion, and it ROCKS!
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No offense Kenny, just a little drunk, having some fun!
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That is your opinion, and to me your opinion is bleh. I love benchmarks and they do mean quite a bit regardless of what you might think. Undervolting isn't in for me at all, I want max overclock with max over volt. I care less about battery saving, these phones do not save battery and minusing a little voltage from the CPU will not only make it severely unstable it is sometimes worse than overvolting. I have been overclocking since the 333mhz CPU. And I can tell you that benchmarks do mean a lot, they tell you quite a bit about your setup and what you could improve on. Not just one single benchmark, you would need a few. That is my main reason for flashing. I want a fast phone, not just fast, faster than yours! That is just how I am.
I would not suggest deleting your benchmarks, keep them, and compare, always, then you will know your phone, and I mean really know your phone. That is my opinion, and it ROCKS!
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No offense Kenny, just a little drunk, having some fun!
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That's cool i respect your opinion dude but you'll learn someday that with Android benchmarks don't mean ****. Why care who's phone scores the highest i could care less abt adding inches to my e-penis. Also, Undervolting has been around for a while and isn't unstable where have you been? You might be one of the few people who still believes overclocking is the ****.....
I know how fast my phone is based on performance and benchmark apps arent an indicator of speed/performance. Most bench apps only run one core to test they don't support dual so?
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I stop benchmarking back when i had the heroc lol. Scores don't really mean anything. ****ty phones out score dual core phones at times, so my advice would be 2 just delete any benchmark apps on your phone asap or scores will drive you crazy...take it from someone thats owned at least 15 android devices since launch its for the best.
FYI overclocking is out and undervolting is in. These days these phones are already fast enough id undervolt to save battery
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+1 about scores, they can easily be manipulated for e-penis reasons, CM on the evo3d is stupid fast, but I read benchmarks are horrible. Evo3d is a faster phone but the proton scores significantly higher is a good example, I frequently get lag on my MoPho.
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+1 about scores, they can easily be manipulated for e-penis reasons, CM on the evo3d is stupid fast, but I read benchmarks are horrible. Evo3d is a faster phone but the proton scores significantly higher is a good example, I frequently get lag on my MoPho.
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Very true, my photon scored higher than my evo 3D across the board but i know the 1.2 dual snapdragon can out perform the tegra 2 anyday. Owning a 3D for a month was awful though lol. So glad i got my photon.
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That's cool i respect your opinion dude but you'll learn someday that with Android benchmarks don't mean ****. Why care who's phone scores the highest i could care less abt adding inches to my e-penis. Also, Undervolting has been around for a while and isn't unstable where have you been? You might be one of the few people who still believes overclocking is the ****.....
I know how fast my phone is based on performance and benchmark apps arent an indicator of speed/performance. Most bench apps only run one core to test they don't support dual so?
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I do think overclocking is the ****. I do it as a passion, but undervolting isn't the best way to go. Yes it can be stable with undervolting, but I think you can go way to far also. And there are apps out there that test both cores, and there will be more out there that test both cores. Dual-core phones are still pretty new. But its really a moot point, I like it, you don't, we can leave it at that. I am going to try to start working on kernels myself and learning about them. Maybe I will come up with something you like that gets the best of both worlds. I would love for there to be a kernel out that you could just switch modes. High performance, and low battery use. etc. I don't just mean governor switching, switching the kernel, I'm sure that would require just reflashing different kernels, but maybe someday it wont.
-DJ
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Very true, my photon scored higher than my evo 3D across the board but i know the 1.2 dual snapdragon can out perform the tegra 2 anyday. Owning a 3D for a month was awful though lol. So glad i got my photon.
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I believe you are completely wrong here, the 3d sucked. The Photon can crush that snapdragon chip. I too had the 3d, but I know the Photon outperforms that thing by a long shot. The 3d was an asynchronous processor, the tegra is not.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/03/24/nvidia-tegra-2-outperforms-qualcomm-dualcore-1015/
I found this to be quite neat:
As an upstart in the mobile industry, NVIDIA is moving at a lightning-fast pace. The company is already working on a quad-core processor called Kal-El and this should be in a retail product as early as August.
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Ppl say snapdragon is faster because of what the chip can do theoretically but in real world it can only playback 1080p videos smoother.
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I have both the evo3d and the photon, I know for a fact that the evo3d is faster, the E3d overall just feels snappier and never had a problem with lag. The proton on the other hand would frequently lag when im running tune in and using another app like the browser or while texting. The EVO or the evo3d never did that. Ill go out and say that I feel the proton is all around better phone as far as build and quality goes, but it does not beat the Evo3d as far as processing power, multitasking and efficiency, and that's in real world use.
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I have both the evo3d and the photon, I know for a fact that the evo3d is faster, the E3d overall just feels snappier and never had a problem with lag. The proton on the other hand would frequently lag when im running tune in and using another app like the browser or while texting. The EVO or the evo3d never did that. Ill go out and say that I feel the proton is all around better phone as far as build and quality goes, but it does not beat the Evo3d as far as processing power, multitasking and efficiency, and that's in real world use.
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^^^^^ +1 on this. Tegra is more about gpu/gfx while dual snap dragon is all about raw processing power. Though this is my first tegra device and i must say its amazing but the dual snap has more power. Im a huge nvidia fan by the way and these processors are just amazing. Cant wait to see tablets shipping with quad core nvidia processors!
Yea I never really played any games, my evo3d had too many touch screen issues lol.
I won't own another HTC phone. I don't care what processor it has. Unless it can either A) Dive for me or B) Build my cars I have no interest what so ever in it. So I'm happy with the chipset we have. :]
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^^^^^ +1 on this. Tegra is more about gpu/gfx while dual snap dragon is all about raw processing power. Though this is my first tegra device and i must say its amazing but the dual snap has more power. Im a huge nvidia fan by the way and these processors are just amazing. Cant wait to see tablets shipping with quad core nvidia processors!
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I don't think you even read my link, it is proven that the tegra has 10-15% more power thn the snap. regardless of what you think you can 'feel' real numbers do tell quite a bit. More than you can tell by 'feeling'.
Not saying that your specific phone isn't faster than your specific other phone, but in real time and real life, the tegra is 10-15% faster than the snap. Sorry.
-DJ
I have the Photon, Evo 3d, and Now the Epic, and still have my OG Evo, here are my personal stats
Photon: amazing and the smoothest for gaming
Evo 3d: pretty much amazing with everything
Epic: fast and smooth and best for battery life
OG Evo: best for customization, ROM flashing, kernal flashing, and for lasting the longest out of every sprint smartphone
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I don't think you even read my link, it is proven that the tegra has 10-15% more power thn the snap. regardless of what you think you can 'feel' real numbers do tell quite a bit. More than you can tell by 'feeling'.
Not saying that your specific phone isn't faster than your specific other phone, but in real time and real life, the tegra is 10-15% faster than the snap. Sorry.
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Lol you're funny bro. I did read your link and it doesn't prove anything. You give me a link from a site dated 3/24/11 when the 3D wasn't even around neither were dual core snap dragons and you expect me to just all of a sudden believe a tegra 2 can out perform a dual snap? Lololol you're getting your information from some site thats barely credible and they start their article with "NVIDIA SAID". No **** nvidia will SAY their product is better bro! Just because that site said 10-15% in march doesnt mean its proven. Cmon dude you can do better than that, thanks for the morning laugh though! Now let me tell you again, dual core snap dragon packs more POWER than the tegra 2 and out performs it no matter what old outdated article you're believing in! SORRY....
Dual core snap dragon runs circles around the tegra 2. Talking out of your ass is never a good idea
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8484/20110912125517.jpg
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Go compare the devices yourself @ http://www.glbenchmark.com/
Lol
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I downloaded a couple of games off the nvidia game zone, I am very impressed with the quality of games and how well they run. Im gonna probably sink a lot of money into it lol. As far as nvidia vs snapdragon, its all and always been about personal preference. Both perform well for what they're designed to do.
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Lol you're funny bro. I did read your link and it doesn't prove anything. You give me a link from a site dated 3/24/11 when the 3D wasn't even around neither were dual core snap dragons and you expect me to just all of a sudden believe a tegra 2 can out perform a dual snap? Lololol you're getting your information from some site thats barely credible and they start their article with "NVIDIA SAID". No **** nvidia will SAY their product is better bro! Just because that site said 10-15% in march doesnt mean its proven. Cmon dude you can do better than that, thanks for the morning laugh though! Now let me tell you again, dual core snap dragon packs more POWER than the tegra 2 and out performs it no matter what old outdated article you're believing in! SORRY....
Dual core snap dragon runs circles around the tegra 2. Talking out of your ass is never a good idea
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8484/20110912125517.jpg
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Woah bud, I never meant it like that. But an asynchronous cpu will not out perform our tegra2 chips, sorry but you are wrong. I am not sure as to why the hostility, was just making you aware of yes, what nvidia said, but it is true. That is simple physics. Thats why when the evo 3d got overclocked the performance increase wasn't ****. I had one too, I know all about it. One of the reasons I got the photon. But no matter, believe whatever you want. No sweat off my back. Those benchmarks mean nothing to me by the way, sorry.
Hard to have a simple debate on these forums. Sucks
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Woah bud, I never meant it like that. But an asynchronous cpu will not out perform our tegra2 chips, sorry but you are wrong. I am not sure as to why the hostility, was just making you aware of yes, what nvidia said, but it is true. That is simple physics. Thats why when the evo 3d got overclocked the performance increase wasn't ****. I had one too, I know all about it. One of the reasons I got the photon. But no matter, believe whatever you want. No sweat off my back. Those benchmarks mean nothing to me by the way, sorry.
Hard to have a simple debate on these forums. Sucks
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Those benchmarks mean nothing but some random site that simply said its 10% better does lol? What are you going to base you statement off then? Can make a claim without facts right? I gave you facts that REAL WORLD test prove dual snapdragon is more powerful, faster, and etc. You're just saying "sorry you're wrong" id say you're the one that doesn't know how to debate. I mean you're asking for a debate but you got nothing but your word and some sketchy old website....lol
I got no idea, (and don't really care) but prepare for a new twist on the question, and for fanbois everywhere to get their minds BLOWN on this phone:
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3064&c=samsung_shv-e120s_galaxy_s_ii_hd_lte_samsung_celox
The Samsung Galaxy 2 HD... WITH has the SAME Snapdragon CPU as our Evo.
I guess that kinda nullifies most of the arguments about the Exynos CPU being sooo awesome, lol!
On a more serious note, I'm really curious about the performance of this one. If TouchWiz gets the same kind of performance as Sense does or not, since most other things in this phone and the Evo or the Sensation XE will be equal...
Interesting...
ohmy......
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Interesting...
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Yeah, isn't it? Especially since HTC also have some HD handsets on the way ALSO with the same Snapdragon SOC, so you can make even more of a direct comparison.
People have said for years that Sense slows down HTC phones, something I don't really buy (Might make a little difference, but they had years to finetune it, so I doubt it makes a big difference).
But for the first time we'll be able to see if Sense really makes a difference in performance as opposed to Touchwiz or plain Android, and how big a difference drivers make.
And by comparing Samsungs ROM with HTCs or SEs ROMs, developers will learn a little more and might come up with some new tweaks.
So interesting indeed!
I really don't see why people are attacking the OP. He isn't trolling.
Anyway, something interesting I read was that the T-mobile Galaxy S II will be using the MSM8260 @ 1.5 Ghz. Engadget said so far from what they've seen, they couldn't see any hint of it being slower than the Exynos version of the GSII.
Here is the Xiaomi phone, which also has the 1.5 Ghz dualcore snapdragon MSM8620. They benchmarked it against the GSII and it kept us quite well.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/xiaomi-phone-review/
Based on all of this information, its clear that other phones with very similar hardware to ours are performing noticeably better which indicates to me that our software is the culprit.
Just look how similar this phones hardware is to ours:
"Being one of the few devices sporting a 1.5GHz dual-core Qualcomm MSM8260 SoC, we'd be silly to not do any benchmarking with the Xiaomi Phone. Accompanied by an Adreno 220 graphics processor, 1GB RAM and 4GB ROM, a slick performance is a given -- after all, Xiaomi did start off as a third-party ROM developer, so system optimization should be a piece of cake for it. From the scores we obtained, we'd say the Xiaomi Phone is on par with the Galaxy S II despite the higher clock speed: on Quadrant the former got 3,040, which is only a bit behind the Galaxy S II's 3,396. However, the graphical performance showed mixed outcomes:"
This is good news IMO, since we should experience quite a performance boost once all the problems with AOSP/CM7 have been ironed out and we get more optimized kernels.
The EVO 3D is capable of more than what HTC's stock software allows it to do, that much is clear.
damn my mind.. its like.. bloownnnnn
The SGS2HD might have the same chip, but the Sprint SGS2 curb-stomps the 3D, right?
Alright folks, back on topic please.
One warning, that is all.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Nonetheless. His post in this thread are unnecessary. If a person is just being a **** and not contributing then they shouldn't bother posting. The negative, flaming, and bullying post are a major reason why this site is going to ****. If those unnecessary post are never made then this would be a MUCH better place.
To the OP. It will be interesting to see how the processor performs w/ Samsungs optimizations and and software. It will be the true test of Exynos v Snapdragon.
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I still think this phone has already showed us that the Snapdragon can run with the Exynos.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/xiaomi-phone-review/
Look at the benchmarks on that link.
Just like the Evo 3d, it has a dual core snapdragon (though at 1.5 Ghz), 1 GB Ram, 4GB ROM and the Adreno 220 GPU.
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The SGS2HD might have the same chip, but the Sprint SGS2 curb-stomps the 3D, right?
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Benchmark scores are certainly more impressive but for real world use I can't tell a difference in speed. However, the SGS2 is a little smoother. In all honesty, the NS4G is smoother than the E3D.
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Benchmark scores are certainly more impressive but for real world use I can't tell a difference in speed. However, the SGS2 is a little smoother. In all honesty, the NS4G is smoother than the E3D.
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heck, my brother's Epic 4G is smoother than my Evo 3D...
you guys all so gotta keep in mind that the evo 3d runs alot higher res.. which can affect speeds and out put score on the benchmark =)
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you guys all so gotta keep in mind that the evo 3d runs alot higher res.. which can affect speeds and out put score on the benchmark =)
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it isn't a lot higher
Really? Another one of these posts? *sigh*
Just to note. The fact the Sammy might be using a snapdragon does not mean, at all, that its the better CPU. Do all manufacturers go with the best when building anything?
Absolutely not... So why do they go with some parts over others? Cheaper. If their contract ran out with Nvidia and they could go with Qualcomm for cheaper. Yeah, they would jump the boat for sure.
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it isn't a lot higher
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well i mean alittle higher
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you guys all so gotta keep in mind that the evo 3d runs alot higher res.. which can affect speeds and out put score on the benchmark =)
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While the NS4G is smoother than the E3D, the E3D is certainly a lot faster.
The question to ask is;
What has better 3d?
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While the NS4G is smoother than the E3D, the E3D is certainly a lot faster.
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what good is all that speed if it isn't translated to smoothness?
does anyone know the difference between the msm8260 and the msm8660?
whats the apq8260 (ap only apparently, i dont know what that means)?
i just bought a touchpad and i originally thought it had the same processor as the E3D
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what good is all that speed if it isn't translated to smoothness?
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The nexus S is just as relevant at this point as an iPhone 3G.
I just switched over to the atrix from the infuse.. I have it unlocked and rooted.. Wanting to oc but not fully understanding so I'm taking it slow lol.. But i was wondering. How does the power of the 'FIRST' dual core stack up to compared to todays dual core phones?? Is this still a good phone (Since I just got it) and will it continue to be a good phone?
With a custom kernel, most benchmarks are placing it right under or even with SGSII... not bad considering that phone comes stock with 1.5 GHz dual core.
1.2 you mean?
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here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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I'm not running a OC kernel, but Faux's enhanced kernel @ 1 GHz. The main thing was getting rid of motoblur, and freeing up the ram. My benchmarks aren't as fast as the SGSII, but they aren't miles behind either.... not bad considering it's half a year older. I happen to like Nivida's technology too, but that's just a personal preference.
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ifalldownalot said:
here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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That's correct. Right now, though, the difference is negligible. So negligible that only benchmarks will show the real difference. Now, there's several games that will work only on the Tegra platform because the other CPUs don't have the same capabilities in the graphics department.... though it's not like everyone writes games based on these settings or even optimize other games for them.
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I just switched over to the atrix from the infuse.. I have it unlocked and rooted.. Wanting to oc but not fully understanding so I'm taking it slow lol.. But i was wondering. How does the power of the 'FIRST' dual core stack up to compared to todays dual core phones?? Is this still a good phone (Since I just got it) and will it continue to be a good phone?
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Ahem... Optimus 2X claims the first prize
Anyway I don't have an Atrix 4G, I have an Optimus 2x, same CPU. In my opinion the Tegra seems on-par with the Galaxy S2.
I'm not sure if there is a CM7 for the Atrix, but on my Optimus it is at least 2x faster than the stock rom, benchmarks reflect that too.
SunSpider is a benchmark which basically tests various web rendering tasks and gives a total score at the end
On MIUI / 1.5GHZ the Galaxy S2 scored 1600 or so. On 1GHZ, my Tegra 2 scores 1800! A lot of it appears to be down to software though, rather than raw performance, for reference, an iPhone 4 using Safari gets 4700, an Acer Liquid Metal Black which has some sort of 800MHZ snapdragon (I think?) CPU gets 3800.
The iPhone 3GS on iOS 4.1 got 16,000 or some stupid figure, well below 10,000 on iOS 5 though. In short, I guess what I'm saying is it's more down to your software setup than the hardware, obviously any phone is going to run like crap on a stock rom with 100,000 facebook and twitter apps.
An example would be the new GTA 3 released yesterday.
The game runs perfect on my iPod touch 4G.
While it lags on the HTC Desire HD.
You could say the phone should have more apps running in the background. But the phone had 400MB free RAM while the iPod had 120MB free RAM before running the game.
Also both devices have 1GHz CPU (and I think the iPod even has it underclocked to 800MHz).
Does the iPod have better GPU then?
This is not the only example, I have seen so many games that run well on ipod 2G (very old model) while the same game lags on Android with similar specs.
It's a question of the API. There is just one iPhone hardware and OS, and there is a vast amount of devices with android that have various hardware. So of course an apple port will run well where it has just one hw\sw setting that the devs focused on than "let's program it for some powerful android devices" ;-)
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Mmm could be it wasn't optimised as well for the adreno family as it was for the power vr. Could also be because the ios has better code for gaming (turns off background processes or something) Lots of could bes, but that's just how it is until we see the ios source code.
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Yeah, it's definitely harder to optimise a game for such a great amount of phones with different hardware. And as far as I know GTA3 for Android was originally announced to support only dual-core devices, so in fact it shouldn't even run on Desire HD...
Because Android sucks..
My Galaxy S+ is running 1.8 ghz but it is still slower compared to my old iPhone 3gs damn.
XER0123 said:
Because Android sucks..
My Galaxy S+ is running 1.8 ghz but it is still slower compared to my old iPhone 3gs damn.
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Haha, you have a Galaxy S...what do you expect? Buy an android phone that costs as much as an Iphone and see if you still have complaints.
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My Galaxy S+ is running 1.8 ghz but it is still slower compared to my old iPhone 3gs damn.
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For me its the otherway around.
hmmm i that something is with your phone lol xD
I have the HTC 3VO and i have never once experienced lag, and I have had the game since it came out.! I think my CPU is like 1-1.5 GHz
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Because Android sucks..
My Galaxy S+ is running 1.8 ghz but it is still slower compared to my old iPhone 3gs damn.
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Iunno what you using or doing on it but my captivate is just as smooth if not close to the fluidity on my sgs 2.
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GTA III seems to run a little smoother on my Motorola Photon 4G than my iPad 1 or iPod Touch 4.
Because Android is a shameless iOS ripoff, and the original is always better
I've been annoyed with the same issue while running certain apps. Like the above replies stated, it's because the differences in hardware and such, but it's still very annoying.
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Because Android is a shameless iOS ripoff, and the original is always better
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Think you have that backwards lol
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Think you have that backwards lol
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Please don't feed the trolls. And if he's not a troll, he's in the wrong part of the internet.
Hardware is not so much the issues as the software is. If you're running an oxygen port on desire hd with no OC and a good kernel you can see the difference in the performance. I get no lag whatsoever but occasionally and if you go on youtube and watch some videos of gta 3 being played on iphone 4, you can see that they also get lags. It is just that their OS is well refined when most phones here are half the price of iphone and don't get a good OS by the company.