Hi all,
I was really curious about this tablet and since didn't want to spend EUR600 on an Ipad, I decided to give the NT a go.
However, after receiving my new NT, I am stuck in the registration screen, as the device seems to recognize my WiFi network settings, but then consistently fails to "Register" the device using the WiFi...
Since I am living in Germany, I don't have an easy way of "just getting" to the closest B&N shop...
I hope someone can help with these questions:
1) Is there a way of bypassing the Registration Screen on the NT?
2) Is it possible at this stage to re-install a generic Android version in the NT?
3) Would "Rooting" allow me to bypass the registration screen?
Many thanks to all!
Cheers,
Gizmo
I hope mine comes this week. After that i can say something about register in germany.
sonscheiss said:
I hope mine comes this week. After that i can say something about register in germany.
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Hi,
Great...at least I'm not alone in this quest...
Basically, I bought mine from Ebay (was able to slip customs ) so it in the end it came quite cheap.
Anyway, yesterday I tried booting it up to see what could I do with it before attempting to root it....and got stuck in the Registration process....
I even changed my WiFi protection from WPA2 into WEP to see if that solved the problem, but I just keep getting a "Could not register, please retry..." or something similar...
Please do let me know how things go on your side...
Cheers,
Gizmo
Hi there, this is actually my first post, but I couldn't resist on replying this thread.
What do you mean, you're having difficulties? How come people from Europe have not had any trouble registering their devices and you have? It makes no sense... If a few can do it, everyone should be able to do it...
(sorry if I seem a little but outbursting, bu I have my nook on the way and these posts makes us feel worried...)
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Hi there, this is actually my first post, but I couldn't resist on replying this thread.
What do you mean, you're having difficulties? How come people from Europe have not had any trouble registering their devices and you have? It makes no sense... If a few can do it, everyone should be able to do it...
(sorry if I seem a little but outbursting, bu I have my nook on the way and these posts makes us feel worried...)
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Hi,
First of all, I share your pain...
No idea about the others you're referring to (are there any Europeans which have successfully registered their Nook using WiFi?! - please show yourselvess... )
I am just stating a fact...
After buying it last week, to be honest, I am also feeling a little disappointed for not being able to do anything with it yet...
At least I got it to charge, as I had a US/EU power adapter plug.....but not much more than that...
Well, users from Hong Kong, Singapore, Costa Rica were able to register it. I can't see why we in Europe couldn't...
Got to give it a try using another WiFi access...
The registration screen can be bypassed. Google something along the lines of "Skip Oobe Nook Color". Oobe is short for Out of box experience. I know i found it on the NookDevs site.
I don't remember for sure but isn't there a "skip" button right there on the registration page?!
please use this method, this will work on NT also
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Factory_Mode/Skip_Out_of_Box_Experience
What if you use a VPN to broadcast a WiFi signal to make the device think you are located in the U.S.?
Hey guys...after insisting a bit...I got passed the registration and login screens...!!!
Currently enabling debugging on the NT (and have already installed successfully the ADB driver)...
Keep you posted!!!
Cheers,
Gizmo
Does anyone know if we can reclaim the 11GB which are allocated to installing B&N stuff?
ThyGizmo said:
Hey guys...after insisting a bit...I got passed the registration and login screens...!!!
Currently enabling debugging on the NT (and have already installed successfully the ADB driver)...
Keep you posted!!!
Cheers,
Gizmo
Does anyone know if we can reclaim the 11GB which are allocated to installing B&N stuff?
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Please check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357044&highlight=1GB
I would suggest browsing through the dev section as well as the general section and doing a few searches - I think you will find a lot of things will resolve themselves.
Be aware as well that skipping registration has supposedly caused many Nook tablets to have reduced lifetime on each single charge.
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Be aware as well that skipping registration has supposedly caused many Nook tablets to have reduced lifetime on each single charge.
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What he said.
I skipped registration and my battery life took a colossal hit. I have no idea why this is and frankly I'm not even sure how it's possible, but skipping registration really does affect battery life. For my money, having an unregistered nook isn't worth the cost of battery life.
jimmysuggs said:
What he said.
I skipped registration and my battery life took a colossal hit. I have no idea why this is and frankly I'm not even sure how it's possible, but skipping registration really does affect battery life. For my money, having an unregistered nook isn't worth the cost of battery life.
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PlacidCat said:
Please check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357044&highlight=1GB
I would suggest browsing through the dev section as well as the general section and doing a few searches - I think you will find a lot of things will resolve themselves.
Be aware as well that skipping registration has supposedly caused many Nook tablets to have reduced lifetime on each single charge.
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Thank you both....I actually meant that was able to finalize the registration process as we're supposed to.....but I had to retry many times until being successful...
Also, the WiFi Connection seems to be intermitent...it's constantly connecting and disconnecting itself.....
...hum..could it perhaps be due to the dozen of WiFi networks being broadcasted by my neighbours in similar channels....
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Thank you both....I actually meant that was able to finalize the registration process as we're supposed to.....but I had to retry many times until being successful...
Also, the WiFi Connection seems to be intermitent...it's constantly connecting and disconnecting itself.....
...hum..could it perhaps be due to the dozen of WiFi networks being broadcasted by my neighbours in similar channels....
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Very likely. Any free channels open or do you have some busy airspace where you are?
I do have a couple of WiFi Networks around....none of them are open actually...all with WPA...
My two laptops and Asus EEEbox don't seem to suffer any problem with that though....
I too had a problem getting the unit to register. My wife sitting next to me with her new NT went right through no problem at all. After about 10 minutes on the charger though, mine went through. I'm speculating the battery level was too low in mine to keep wifi reliable through the registration process.
At any rate, mine is working well at this point.
jimmysuggs said:
What he said.
I skipped registration and my battery life took a colossal hit. I have no idea why this is and frankly I'm not even sure how it's possible, but skipping registration really does affect battery life. For my money, having an unregistered nook isn't worth the cost of battery life.
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i can't believe it!!
if you switch back to register it, the battery life will go back?
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Hi Guys and Girls,
First of all I apologize for starting a new thread about this, I have put a search in both on Google and XDA and there is one possible solution I just need some clarification being a noobie!
I purchased Co Pilot 8 quite a while back when I was on stock rom but have since tried several different roms each time reinstalling my co pilot. After each install I obviously have had to reactivate it, last week after trying yet another rom my Co Pilot wouldn't activate. I contacted Co Pilot support and after several emails the outcome was that I had activated/de-activated several times and had reached my limit. They have allowed me to activate one last time(their words) but I know I'm not going to stick with the same rom so unless there is a way around this my purchase appears useless, especially as I have bought text to speech and live services as well!
During my search I came across a possible solution to back up your activation key which is licp8 in the windows directory. As I only have one activation left I need to get this right so if someone could clarify this for me I would be most grateful. What I need to know is if I now re-activate Co Pilot and then back up the above file (licp8) to my storage card, when I put a new rom on my phone if I then copy my backed up activation code from my storage card back to the windows directory, does this mean my Co Pilot will be activated without having to do so over the internet as this will obviously register with ALK Technologies?
Does that make sense,(no pun intended).
Sorry about the long winded explanation.
Thank you for any help
No offers?? Ah well I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet the next time I load a new rom.
can you not install copilot on the sd card so you won't have to activate every time you flash?
nrfitchett4 said:
can you not install copilot on the sd card so you won't have to activate every time you flash?
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That kind of works, but only in the sense that you don't have to type all of the ridiculous long numbers for activatio again. It will remember all of your keys and your email/account settings.
I don't know how often I have re-activated, probably about 20 times, haven't had a problem since. But if you have a valid license and it has always been on the same phone (as in you didn't share the code) then how can they justify not re-activating the product. I like CoPilot, but if they try a stunt like that I will never buy it again.
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That kind of works, but only in the sense that you don't have to type all of the ridiculous long numbers for activatio again. It will remember all of your keys and your email/account settings.
I don't know how often I have re-activated, probably about 20 times, haven't had a problem since. But if you have a valid license and it has always been on the same phone (as in you didn't share the code) then how can they justify not re-activating the product. I like CoPilot, but if they try a stunt like that I will never buy it again.
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Thanks to both of you for the reply.
I do install it to my SD card and like smackmac says that only partly works.
@smackmac
I have probably activated less than you so I don't understand that one?
In one of the emails they sent me, they have limited activation to protect against software piracy, I can understand that so I asked them why don't they link the software to the IMEI number but they said they can't do that. The software is fully legal and I have only ever had it installed on my current phone,(HD2). I did give them an in depth explanation of the reason why I had activated/deactivated but I got the impression they didnt believe me, I even had to scan my email receipt and send as an attachment as proof of purchase. Like I said I will try that possible solution in my original post the next time I put a new Rom on the phone and ill update the post to let everyone know whether it worked or not.
Thanks again for your response.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Please let us know how your test goes eddyedwards007.
I just learned from CoPilot Support/ALK Technologies today, that I have also reached this "activation limit", that I was totally unaware of. I would warn anyone considering CoPilot not to buy if they ROM flash often. Or even if the hard reset often. Or even if they just think they'll have to reinstall the software often.
After I contacted CoPilot Tech Support/ALK Technologies about receiving an "error 1027" when trying to activate the product after a recent ROM Update, I got the following response:
Dear Darnell,
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Unfortunately the reason why you are receiving error 1027 and why you are no longer able to continue activating CoPilot is our Activation server has seen that you have reached the maximum permitted activation limit for a product.
Looking at your product key code you have activated 24 times.
Unfortunately there is nothing further I can do to unlock your Product Key Code to allow for further activations as this falls under excessive uses of activation.
You can resolve this by purchasing a new version of CoPilot but if you continue to activate to the same level that you have already been doing then your new key will also be locked out after a period of time when you reach the maximum limit.
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So basically, they have my money and I have no CoPilot.
I have never had an issue of this sort with any other product on my HD2. I guess the magic number for me was 24. I had no idea reinstalling to the same device multiple times was an issue for them. This is an issue anyone considering CoPilot needs to be made aware of. Ticks me off when we who follow the rules and pay the money are treated like the bad guy . For crying out loud, we paying customers are the ones that DO keep them in business! Trying to use the product honestly now has me locked out.
So I fired off a response to the support ticket with a complaint of how I dislike them having my money while they fail to offer me service. My issue has now been fowarded to "Senior Technicians" and they are supposed to be getting back with me soon.
If they ever grant me activation again, I'm going STRAIGHT TO THE ANDROID VERSION. The Android version does not have to be reactivated as often, since when upgrading Android ports all the information is saved and comes right back through using the old data.img file or a utility like Titanium Backup. HD2 owners using an Android port have confirmed this for me. (See here and here.)
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
So I fired off a response to the support ticket with a complaint of how I dislike them having my money while they fail to offer me service. My issue has now been fowarded to "Senior Technicians" and they are supposed to be getting back with me soon.
If they ever grant me activation again, I'm going STRAIGHT TO THE ANDROID VERSION. The Android version does not have to be reactivated as often, since when upgrading Android ports all the information is saved and comes right back through using the old data.img file or a utility like Titanium Backup. HD2 owners using an Android port have confirmed this for me. (See here and here.)
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Hi Darnell,
Interesting post, I more or less got the same response, basically you are not going to be allowed to activate a product you paid for because they think you are making pirate copies. I have just downloaded the latest version of the rom I use and I will be taking the plunge tomorrow(19/11/10)
I sent a PM to Appelflap, who originally offered the solution, asking could he/she confirm it works and this is the response I got, [That's right. If you backup licp8.dat and copy it back to windows directory before copilot is started for the first time on the new rom, it will start as a activated copy.]
I hope Appelflap doesn't mind me posting the quote that was sent to me via PM.
So I hope it works otherwise I'll be left with a deactivated copy of Co-Pilot I'll let you know.
By the way I hope they grant you another activation, good luck.
Regards
Eddy
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Hi All,
Just to update what happened.
I have installed and updated my rom and did exactly as Appelflap suggested and .................................wait for it..............it worked!
So just to recap, if you have like myself, purchased co pilot and flashed numerous roms, you will eventually reach an activation limit and ALK Technologies won't allow you to keep activating indefinitely.
So if you go into the windows directory, copy licp8.dat to your storage card, and then after you have reinstalled co pilot, copy the licp8.dat file back into the windows directory BEFORE you open co pilot, that is important! This worked 100% for me and also my text to speech and live services I purchased are also working.
I take no credit for this, all the thanks and appreciation go to Appelflap
I hope this can be of benefit to other members of the community, and lets hope no-one from ALK Technologies reads the forums and comes up with a fix!
Regards
Eddy
Yesterday, I got this message from ALK Tech.
Dear Darnell,
Thank you for contacting CoPilot Technical Support.
Please try activating your CoPilot again with the same product key.
Please be advised that it is imperative, before you upgrade or change the rom or the device, that you deactivate your licenses yourself in the future in:
Menu --> Settings --> Licencing --> DEACTIVATE
If you have any further questions, or feel that this incident has not been resolved to your satisfaction, please do not hesitate to bring this to our attention.
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I was able to reactivate CoPilot Maps. But I am still unable to activate the Premium Live Services/Live Traffic that I also paid for. So I've asked them to assist me with activating that also.
A couple of things that may help
I've yet to hit limit and I think it is for the following:
I use XDA_UC (Energy version) to install the Laurentius26 CAB and also to copy licp8 (contains your license key and saves typing out on the ABCDE keyboard) over to windows which avoids the need to reactivate the license. Then CP8 when run does do not go thru the activation loop.
Clearly for this to work you need a purchased license. I've have changed ROM's several dozen times without issue using this method. I hope this helps.
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Yesterday, I got this message from ALK Tech.
I was able to reactivate CoPilot Maps. But I am still unable to activate the Premium Live Services/Live Traffic that I also paid for. So I've asked them to assist me with activating that also.
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I was able to successfully activate Premium Live Services/Live Traffic tonight. I think I was mistakenly using my old password when trying to activate that one. Since the old password was likely stored, but I had changed the PW when trying to initially figure out why I could not activate.
I sure hope more CoPilot owners see this thread before they run into any issues.
might sound simple but wont a backup or system image saved to your sd card restore your setting/co-pilot etc? ive done this with my phone a handful of timeswhen updating roms, never with anything fully registered but demo versions of apps and sofware ive installed are still within the preview time limit.
this way you can restore your prefered rom with your copilot and settings without having to activate it time and time again. may be totally wrong as ive never used co pilot but unless anyone says otherwise its gotta be worth a try?
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might sound simple but wont a backup or system image saved to your sd card restore your setting/co-pilot etc? ive done this with my phone a handful of timeswhen updating roms, never with anything fully registered but demo versions of apps and sofware ive installed are still within the preview time limit.
this way you can restore your prefered rom with your copilot and settings without having to activate it time and time again. may be totally wrong as ive never used co pilot but unless anyone says otherwise its gotta be worth a try?
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Not usually good practice to restore a backup from an old ROM to a new one. It's usually best to only save and copy over just the nessesary files. Such as the one already mentioned.
To restore the full system image would also introduce any potential bugs that might have been in the old ROM's system files.
But we're trying to maintain what we paid for, not extending a trial.
the tech's there blow. I sent in my tab for the gps issue and got this response;
"Dear Valued Customer,
Per our repair facility, they were unable to duplicate the problem with your ASUS TF201 and test results are NTF (No Trouble Found, all tests passed) for RMA # USG7xxxxxxx.
Please provide more information so we can try to duplicate the issue. Need specifics as to when & how problem occurs and any components being used that could possibly be causing the problem.
"
My response;
"GPS will not lock on to GPS SATELLITES. As in the GPS apps that allow me to see what satellites the GPS can see. This is where the problem is. If you have an app that shows it locks on to satellites please let me know what it is.
I've tried several apps in the android market i.e. GPS Status, none show satellites.
after 7 days of keeping my tab with no more responses, I made 4 complaint calls in the same day. after that I got this;
"Please note this unit may not be defective.
ASUS TF201 come with: Assisted GPS functionality which requires connection to Wifi network in order to acquire location information.
Did GPS work when connected to WiFi?
WTF?!?! My immediate response? this;
"Mr Cruz,
If you're asking do I get my location with WiFi on, then yes I do. My ASUS laptop ALSO gives me my location with WiFi and it doesn't have GPS.
The use of WiFi is soley for the maps and has nothing to do with the GPS itself. GPS gets is coordinates from GPS satellites. Map apps convert the "longitude and latitude" data the GPS gives and points it out relative to its maps.
The app"GPS Status" from the google market (free) is designed to show how many GPS satellites the GPS hardware can find. With or without WiFi. Try it out on your smartphone, you'll see what I'm talking about.
HOWEVER, since you are taking so long and emailing me at the end of the day on a Thursday (like last week), this means I won't hear from anyone until NEXT Thursday to ask the same question. To be honest, if you are not understanding what I'm conveying in these last 2 emails, I don't think you'll really ever will.
Please send back my defective unit asap so I can make complaints to everyone else and show how unhelpfull and unknowledgeable an ASUS tech is concerning tablets and convince people its better to wait for other quad tabs then have this type of problems. My original iPad and Acer A500 had NO issues with this, but my new more expensive tablet can't. You've had my tablet longer than me with no answers.
Again, please send it back. Your tech service is underwhelming and a waste of my time.
Frank Funes"
YES, I "said" it. I had my tab on Dec 23, sent it in Dec 27, theyve had it since Dec 29 and STILL cant understand what im talking about. I have my tab insured and will drop it off a bldg so I can get me a new one.
The transformer prime doesn't have a gps anymore.
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I have my tab insured and will drop it off a bldg so I can get me a new one.
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And with that, you've utterly destroyed what little credibility you had. You're angry at ASUS, and so you're going to commit insurance fraud in response.
Mine doest, work and no issue, and I have ICS
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the tech's there blow. I sent in my tab for the gps issue and got this response;
"Dear Valued Customer,
Per our repair facility, they were unable to duplicate the problem with your ASUS TF201 and test results are NTF (No Trouble Found, all tests passed) for RMA # USG7xxxxxxx.
Please provide more information so we can try to duplicate the issue. Need specifics as to when & how problem occurs and any components being used that could possibly be causing the problem.
"
My response;
"GPS will not lock on to GPS SATELLITES. As in the GPS apps that allow me to see what satellites the GPS can see. This is where the problem is. If you have an app that shows it locks on to satellites please let me know what it is.
I've tried several apps in the android market i.e. GPS Status, none show satellites.
after 7 days of keeping my tab with no more responses, I made 4 complaint calls in the same day. after that I got this;
"Please note this unit may not be defective.
ASUS TF201 come with: Assisted GPS functionality which requires connection to Wifi network in order to acquire location information.
Did GPS work when connected to WiFi?
WTF?!?! My immediate response? this;
"Mr Cruz,
If you're asking do I get my location with WiFi on, then yes I do. My ASUS laptop ALSO gives me my location with WiFi and it doesn't have GPS.
The use of WiFi is soley for the maps and has nothing to do with the GPS itself. GPS gets is coordinates from GPS satellites. Map apps convert the "longitude and latitude" data the GPS gives and points it out relative to its maps.
The app"GPS Status" from the google market (free) is designed to show how many GPS satellites the GPS hardware can find. With or without WiFi. Try it out on your smartphone, you'll see what I'm talking about.
HOWEVER, since you are taking so long and emailing me at the end of the day on a Thursday (like last week), this means I won't hear from anyone until NEXT Thursday to ask the same question. To be honest, if you are not understanding what I'm conveying in these last 2 emails, I don't think you'll really ever will.
Please send back my defective unit asap so I can make complaints to everyone else and show how unhelpfull and unknowledgeable an ASUS tech is concerning tablets and convince people its better to wait for other quad tabs then have this type of problems. My original iPad and Acer A500 had NO issues with this, but my new more expensive tablet can't. You've had my tablet longer than me with no answers.
Again, please send it back. Your tech service is underwhelming and a waste of my time.
Frank Funes"
YES, I "said" it. I had my tab on Dec 23, sent it in Dec 27, theyve had it since Dec 29 and STILL cant understand what im talking about. I have my tab insured and will drop it off a bldg so I can get me a new one.
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What a bunch of idiots they are. You should have told them that even with wifi the GPS doesnt' work, which is true...it might get the location right on google maps but gps still dont' work as the bottom right icon says "searching for gps". If it's searching, it can't possibly get the location from gps but through wifi..... I don't know how these people got a job?
I thought it was pretty obvious the GPS doesn't work at all for a lot of people and that unless they got out the hack saw and hacked into the aluminium in the device they were never going to fix the problem?
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And with that, you've utterly destroyed what little credibility you had. You're angry at ASUS, and so you're going to commit insurance fraud in response.
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How the hell do you get insurance fraud from that statement... for all you know he's just sick of it and decided to BUY himself a different tablet. We have real problems here and people are sick of Asus response.
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How the hell do you get insurance fraud from that statement... for all you know he's just sick of it and decided to BUY himself a different tablet. We have real problems here and people are sick of Asus response.
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Because purposely destroying an insured item as a means to get yourself a brand new one is, in fact, fraud.
I sent mine in as after about three days I noticed a crack at the dock connector, so I noted a lower left light bleed and the GPS. I hope something gets resolved on mine. I'm not trying to be negative but with the price drop at hhgregg, the issues it comes with, and the new one coming out shortly, makes me wonder if Asus is giving up on this model.
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And with that, you've utterly destroyed what little credibility you had. You're angry at ASUS, and so you're going to commit insurance fraud in response.
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Hows that fraud?? My insurance allows for ANY damage to my laptop. Asus kept it over my 15day return period which means I cant return it without losing money now. My a$$, if thats going to happen.
What you think of my "credibility" is irrelevant. My issue with my tab is not UNCOMMON. Fact, I sent it in. Fact, they gave me the run around. Fact, Im pissed I sold my ACER for this more expensive defective unit.
You might think my MORALS are off, but I could care less. I PAID for a fully functional unit that is SUPPOSED to have a working gps in it and they could care less about truly worrying whether its solved or not because theyre worried about THEIR credibility . I also PAID for insurance that ALLOWS me to insure I get a fully functional unit.
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How the hell do you get insurance fraud from that statement... for all you know he's just sick of it and decided to BUY himself a different tablet. We have real problems here and people are sick of Asus response.
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Purposely ruining something to get a new one using insurance is fraud. However, I assumed he was making a joke based on his situation.
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Hows that fraud?? My insurance allows for ANY damage to my laptop.
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I absolutely guarantee you that your insurance does not include INTENTIONAL damage due to throwing it off a building. This makes it fraud.
My issue with my tab is not UNCOMMON. Fact, I sent it in. Fact, they gave me the run around. Fact, Im pissed I sold my ACER for this more expensive defective unit.
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It's a known issue, well publicized and not going to get fixed. They've pulled it from the spec sheet and announced that already. Why are you expecting them to say something different?
I PAID for a fully functional unit that is SUPPOSED to have a working gps in it
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Then I would suggest you take this up with your vendor so you can try to return it past your 14 days.
This was returned prior to Asus saying anything about the GPS so they should have at least acknowledged that and refunded the shipping costs.
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This was returned prior to Asus saying anything about the GPS so they should have at least acknowledged that and refunded the shipping costs.
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Yeah, that's fair. I also think retailers should take back a product past their return date if the GPS is a big issue for people, since they did sell a device with a advertised non-working feature.
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Purposely ruining something to get a new one using insurance is fraud. However, I assumed he was making a joke based on his situation.
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Not necessarily. I definitely wont be as careful with my tab as I had with my Acer. if I leave it in the car, go to a movie and someone steals it, oh well..... If I leave it too close to the edge of my table and one of the kids knocks it over, oh well...
you get my meaning.
TAKE A CHILL PILL. BEING MAD UP HERE WONT MAKE MATTERS ANY BETTER.
THE responses Asus gave you is some Royal B.s. though. Can't lie about that. SORRY for the drama Asus has caused you. Like you said, just exchange it since you have insurance. BUT Don't expect any hardware GPS fix. ASUS already admitted they not going to fix that and prime was never meant to be a dedicated GPS device. IT DOES suck they had your device so long only to give you a load of hot steamy crap..lol. good luck on the new device. CANT LIE, I'd be pissed off also.
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Yeah, that's fair. I also think retailers should take back a product past their return date if the GPS is a big issue for people, since they did sell a device with a advertised non-working feature.
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Ill look into that one too. Thanks
demandarin said:
TAKE A CHILL PILL. BEING MAD UP HERE WONT MAKE MATTERS ANY BETTER.
THE responses Asus gave you is some Royal B.s. though. Can't lie about that. SORRY for the drama Asus has caused you. Like you said, just exchange it since you have insurance. BUT Don't expect any hardware GPS fix. ASUS already admitted they not going to fix that and prime was never meant to be a dedicated GPS device. IT DOES suck they had your device so long only to give you a load of hot steamy crap..lol. good luck on the new device. CANT LIE, I'd be pissed off also.
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Only mad at ASUS.....and the people that come here with their high and mighty righteous morality, to a thread.
Wow. What complete b.s. I am so DONE with Asus. Never again will I buy one of their products (in addition to the Prime, almost every motherboard I've ever bought when building PCs has been an Asus. No more).
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Wow. What complete b.s. I am so DONE with Asus. Never again will I buy one of their products (in addition to the Prime, almost every motherboard I've ever bought when building PCs has been an Asus. No more).
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I own an Asus g60v laptop and its worked for me great these last 2 years. I'm just saying their techs SUK when it comes to the the Prime.
Let me start this by saying I LOVE the Nexus 10. It's the most comfortable tablet I've used and the screen is just phenomenal, aside from that, the random reboots are really dragging down the experience. I'm sure there still have to be people having these issues, and what are you doing to combat/keep the tablet from rebooting? I've factory reset my device probably 5 times since my purchase in January, and have installed a few ROMs to try and stop them to no avail. I'm currently running CM10.1 with KTManta and are still having crashes daily, if not every 3-4 hours of heavy use. Location services are disabled, and Chrome is nowhere to be found. How many here are still having these issues? I'm just trying to grab a realistic number here for the community. Would those who are having freezes and reboots like to contribute to a global list where we could possibly list all of the applications that we use to see if there is a common ground amongst us? I just hate that this awesome tablet is being placed on the back burner for now with what would appear like no indication of upcoming fixes. I'm sure IO will bring us a more stable version of Android (4.2.2 is pretty awful) but that's still quite a bit away.
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There are two awesome threads that this is being discussed on, one is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496 the other is a Google thread referenced in that same discussion.
I may have had a comepletely different problem, but a RMA made my N10 go from bad to good experience
Been running 4.2.2 official AOKP with default kernel for the last couple weeks and haven't had 1 freeze/reboot. Battery great also with around 7-8 hours of screen time.
4.2.2 was a huge improvement
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I am currently on a CM10 base and KTManta kernel and I have no reboots or other problems at all. I had been on AOKP PUB for quite a while before this and it was fine too, and before that I was on a really old build of CM10 (4.2.1) for a long time with only a couple issues due to memory leaks that caused a reboot once every few days.
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There are two awesome threads that this is being discussed on, one is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998496 the other is a Google thread referenced in that same discussion.
I may have had a comely different problem, but a RMA made my N10 go from bad to good experience
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Your second device isn't rebooting?
Edit: To OP. I gave up combatting it. Nothing seems to work. It could be an app but when it reboots sometimes every few days that would be hard to troubleshoot. I can swap an app list with you if you want although it may be more beneficial to see those the apps of those with no issues so you could have a starting point?
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I own this device for ~4 weeks now and I haven't had a single reboot, freeze or anything.
Of course I understand that not everybody is this lucky, so I feel sad for you guys but it seems to be more hardware reliant than anything with newer devices not experiencing many problems.
I experienced several reboots a day when I first received my Nexus 10. It was frustrating to use at best. Since the 4.2.2 (I'm running stock with root) upgrade and switching to Chrome beta I no longer have any reboot problems with the same device. I am now able to turn on location awareness without lockups or reboots as well. It's a complete 180.
My wife just bought her own Nexus 10 and hers has never locked up or rebooted spontaneously. Hers is stock, unrooted, and she uses non-beta Chrome.
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It is not.
I mentioned it in another thread, but I prefer to charge a units battery 100% full, then run the unit unitl it turns its self off from dead battery. The first two "cycles" on my RMA unit I did that, no problems during either cycle, each cycle was three days long. So then I started to charge it when the battery said 1%, and now I'm up to 302 hours of uptime. There have been no shell reboots during this 302 hours, as I've always been sure to leave an app in "recently used" and its always still there. I've also been using things that previously I would not have, such as Maps, apps that run message in status bar such as "Date In Status Bar HD" etc etc.
But full tech-slanted disclaimer because I know the history of this problem:
-My problem on my original unit 99.9% of the time manifested its self as "sleep of death", a bit different than "the masses"
-On my RMA unit, I've never opened Chrome. Not because I am wanting to use it but avoiding it, rather I only ever want to use one browser per device, and since I need to use Boat for Flash, I run Boat instead
-Similarly, I have not done anything "trying to force a crash" on the unit. For example, I've not run that crash app that dude just posted to the Google thread
-Again related to my personality/thought process: My goal has been "just use the tablet as I normally would" so that DOES include things like surfing the web on Boat for 3 hours at a time, running some lame match-3 games, etc etc. I am NOT sitting in a class all day with the unit open for 8 hour stints, nor am I watching YouTube for hours at a time, nor am I taking 1 hour video recordings on the device. So moderate use, but not "stress testing" use.
Still, the summary of my experience says it all (for me) - Could not consider the original unit dependable in anyway, it almost always was "off" if it was sitting on my desk, whereas now the new unit has not had a single event and I'm about one month into it, every day use... Original unit I noticed the problem within the first 3 days of ownership, but I thought there was a setting I had wrong, then I thought it was a problem that 4.2.2 would fix - both those assessments of my original device were wrong.
One more data point on this - My new unit is the D serial number, my original was the C - but another user here described the EXACT same crap I was dealing with, and his was a D - so I don't think there is an exact match for the possible theory of serial numbers (again in the context of sleep-of-death-manifestation.)
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~bm
I've not had one single reboot or freeze with this tablet, I'm on the stock 4.2.2. I have had some apps crash which brings me to my next point... How do your log cats look? They are usually a good starting point when trying to figure out the cause of a crash.
And if you are getting multiple reboots across a spread of roms than it's most likely an app. You need to take the time and figure out which app is causing it. It will be worth it in the long run!
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I mentioned it in another thread, but I prefer to charge a units battery 100% full, then run the unit unitl it turns its self off from dead battery.
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You do that every time? That's not good and definitely not needed with lithium ion batteries.
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I've not had one single reboot or freeze with this tablet, I'm on the stock 4.2.2. I have had some apps crash which brings me to my next point... How do your log cats look? They are usually a good starting point when trying to figure out the cause of a crash.
And if you are getting multiple reboots across a spread of roms than it's most likely an app....
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I think that is the point for the OP but nobody is doing it. Can you guys with no reboots list the apps on your device? That would give the people with reboots a starting point.
I appreciate the input to the thread but (I'll probably get flamed for this) many of the anecdotal responses are not of much value IMHO. You can't really start any troubleshooting with and not trying to single anyone out, 4.2.2 fixed it, my RMA'd device fixed it, beta-chrome works for me, non-beta for the wife, it's hardware, newer ones are better, turn off location services, etc. I have an RMA'd device so it is newer than the first batch. To that point, there is a guy in the thread bigmatty linked where the device is 8 days old. Is it an app? I hope so but with the infrequency of the reboots or seemingly randomness of it it is hard to troubleshoot. AOKP ran for 2 days 9 hours for me then crashed, then crashed again in 5 hours, and now up for 2 days again so far. The thing is they were all when idle so it is really hard to say what happened. One of my logs suggests gtalk loosing connection and rebooting the tablet. The other says nothing "illegal" or anything like that in the logs. Just the activity manager freaks out like every other log and then watchdog kills everything.
So, you guys with perfect N10s why don't you give us an app list so us poor bastards with reboots have a starting point....please
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I think that is the point for the OP but nobody is doing it. Can you guys with no reboots list the apps on your device? That would give the people with reboots a starting point.
So, you guys with perfect N10s why don't you give us an app list so us poor bastards with reboots have a starting point....please
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Look, that's not how troubleshooting works. The easiest and most efficient way is to reset your roms, add one or two apps a day, and keep adding apps till you find the problem. Patience is the key. But once you find the problem you'll be very pleased. Me or anyone else listing apps on our devices will not be meaningful to the problem because you're looking for apps that work, you're looking for ones that don't.
Your starting point is a ROM with no apps.
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You do that every time? That's not good and definitely not needed with lithium ion batteries.
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Well, I've personally done a lot of research into this topic, and no one will ever convince me any other method is as good for the batteries as it is. I've seen the battery discussions on both sides drag on for miles, so not worth discussing really. Just IMHO - ALL batteries can still suffer from memory effect. (Again, seen both sides of that discussion.)
I agree w/ the "top-level-general uncertainty" about these devices and thus the inherent frustrating complexities that rxnelson is talking about. My general opinion on the situation, is - if nothing else, there are some truly defective units in the field now, which further complicates the issue/troubleshooting.
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Look, that's not how troubleshooting works. The easiest and most efficient way is to reset your roms, add one or two apps a day, and keep adding apps till you find the problem. Patience is the key. But once you find the problem you'll be very pleased. Me or anyone else listing apps on our devices will not be meaningful to the problem because you're looking for apps that work, you're looking for ones that don't.
Your starting point is a ROM with no apps.
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Yea...well that is probably not going to happen for most people. Even at 10 apps 2 days per app you are looking at almost a month of troubleshooting. Most people aren't going to do that. There is also nothing to say that your bad app didn't cause an issue in 2 days but 4 instead you will be thinking the wrong app caused the issue. Anyway it was what the OP asked for so also trying to stay on topic.
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Yea...well that is probably not going to happen for most people. Even at 10 apps 2 days per app you are looking at almost a month of troubleshooting. Most people aren't going to do that. There is also nothing to say that your bad app didn't cause an issue in 2 days but 4 instead you will be thinking the wrong app caused the issue. Anyway it was what the OP asked for so also trying to stay on topic.
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Yeah I hear you man. When I was in the cell phone business as much as I love android I hated selling android phones because people go app crazy and install whatever they can find. Then they come back the next day because their phone isn't working properly. Lol.
But honestly, how many different apps do you use on a typical day? And let's put games and other non productive apps aside. So for troubleshooting purposes start with the apps you really, truly, honestly NEED and see if you still get issues.
This really becomes a circular discussion. Its the same as the original links I was referencing. Mods are just humoring us by not merging...
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Well, I've personally done a lot of research into this topic, and no one will ever convince me any other method is as good for the batteries as it is. I've seen the battery discussions on both sides drag on for miles, so not worth discussing really. Just IMHO - ALL batteries can still suffer from memory effect. (Again, seen both sides of that discussion.)
I agree w/ the "top-level-general uncertainty" about these devices and thus the inherent frustrating complexities that rxnelson is talking about. My general opinion on the situation, is - if nothing else, there are some truly defective units in the field now, which further complicates the issue/troubleshooting.
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I'd invite you to do some more research into the topic, check this out: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries It's a great site for real battery information.
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Yeah I hear you man. When I was in the cell phone business as much as I love android I hated selling android phones because people go app crazy and install whatever they can find. Then they come back the next day because their phone isn't working properly. Lol.
But honestly, how many different apps do you use on a typical day? And let's put games and other non productive apps aside. So for troubleshooting purposes start with the apps you really, truly, honestly NEED and see if you still get issues.
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I hear you as well. To be honest I'm just kind of done with troubleshooting. I've had a rebooting device since November. I'm just looking for a base to start with I guess. Kind of like at work. We have 10-15 core apps we install and test on a PC. When they are tested we make an image and blast that to the other devices. If 19 of 20 of the PCs work then we re-image the one. If that doesn't work it almost isn't worth the trouble shooting as we have 20 more that need imaged. Most of the time they chalk it up to hardware send it to the PC techs and move on. If I get bored I'll reflash....and yes honestly I don't use that many apps but it is still kind of a kick in the balls that you have to baby the device. I still think there is something generally wrong with the I/O of the two devices I've had. If I do a restore all apps and I mess with the tablet while it is downloading and installing all those apps they were both almost guaranteed to reboot.
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I'd invite you to do some more research into the topic, check this out: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries It's a great site for real battery information.
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:cyclops: I've read it all and done my own tests that span years... Even talked with former battery engineers about the topics and theories. My method always leaves my devices "more charged longer". Like I said, seen this battery topic drag on endlessly...
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This really becomes a circular discussion. Its the same as the original links I was referencing. Mods are just humoring us by not merging...
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So where is that app list?
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I hear you as well. To be honest I'm just kind of done with troubleshooting. I've had a rebooting device since November. IAt the very least,'m just looking for a base to start with I guess. Kind of like at work. We have 10-15 core apps we install and test on a PC. When they areexpressly increasingxotically increStillasing the oddse tested we make an image and blast that to the other devices. If 19 of 20 of the PCs work then we re-image the one. If that doesn't work it almost isn't worth the trouble shooting as we have 20 more that need imaged. Most of the time they chalk it up to hardware send it to the PC techs and move on. If I get bored I'll reflash....and yes honestly I don't use that many apps but it is still kind of a kick in the balls that you have to baby the device. I still think there is something generally wrong with the I/O of the two devices I've had. If I do a restore all apps and I mess with the tablet while it is downloading and installing all those apps they were both almost guaranteed to reboot.
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The odds seem so impossible that you personally would have got two defective devices, but clearly you have the tech chops to give a good assessment to the situation - I would love to see your experience with a third device... Just because each different physical device you test would keep exponentially increasing the odds.
A couple of the others who seem real in tune to this issue, I think have a hard or impossible return/RMA path, so I feel like it's an option not being that exhausted yet.
Well, I don't know that I am off much more help on this topic in general. I watched it so intensely for a couple months so its still got my interest. At the very least, guessing all the talks cab start again after klp is released!
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So where is that app list?
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I'll do this for you later today. Like I was saying, I think you are Not crazy :highfive:
Hello all. Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I recently got my girlfriend a zte overture on aio wireless. I've been looking at a method to root this phone and have found nothing. The phone is pretty decent, not even looking for a custom ROM (yet), just need root to bypass the Google hangout video call WiFi restriction, and to get wifitether working for her.
I understand that their isn't much demand for ROMs and what not for that phone. But with aio wireless going nation wide and the phone being only 150 bucks with semi nice specs and 4g, figured something's would start popping up for this phone.
Anyway any advice and help will be greatly appreciated.
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ZTE Overture z995 - root method from other ZTE's?
I tried the Lumina 620 last week with Aio, and while the phone hardware was awesome the Windows Phone 8 OS was my hangup - (cmon guys, cant even add custom notification sounds? No system file explorer? The HERE maps are 2 years old or more in my area too...).
So I went back to Aio and got the ZTE Overture (Z995). (LTE Rocks! Wow I like the speed and coverage in DFW!)
It's a nice phone - low on memory, but it allows you to remove facebook with no issues, and the build on it is not too junked up.
Can anyone tell or theorize on whether other ZTE root methods work on this phone? I'd love to put a hosts file ad block on it...
Model: Z995
Android Ver: 4.1.2
Baseband: Z995T01
Kernel: 3.4.0-svn5856 [email protected]
I have seen statements that ZTE doe not have a locked bootloader. I noticed in my phone settings, in system updates, it even has options for "Storage card updates" and the "Update ZTE Software" option seems to try to open a zip file on the SD card... so does that mean you could put SU in a zip file and just ask the phone to apply the zip to get root? I doubt it's that simple, but I thought I would ask...
I've tried using google translate on baidu to see if anything came up but man, it's tough to navigate that site if you don't speak Chinese...
Oh - This phone is $79 at Aio. I also asked what happens to us Aio folks when AT&T shuts Aio down to merge it with Cricket in the coming months and got blank stares... (we should be OK, they'll just move us into Cricket I assume. They people at the Aio store might not be so lucky.)
Haven't heard anything about a merge with cricket. Aio just went national about a month ago so that would be strange.
Anyway, I'm still searching for an answer to get root on that phone.
Want to bypass the need to be on WiFi for hangouts, which needs root to achieve.
I'll be sure to post if I find anything
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Haven't heard anything about a merge with cricket. Aio just went national about a month ago so that would be strange.
Anyway, I'm still searching for an answer to get root on that phone. ...
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Do a quick Google for "att cricket aio", you'll see the blogs and news about it... Who knows - maybe if ATT shutters AIO we can get an unlock code early for free.
(hey just a thought does AIO stand for "ATT's Independent Operator"? And would that be ironic, or an oxymoron? )
I must be tired, I've started making bad jokes....
No ZTE 995 Overture root yet...?
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hey just recently got the ZTE and i was wondering if you did find a way to root it???
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I haven't found anything yet. It must not be an extremely popular phone based on the low quantity of hits I get looking around the net for info on it.
Which is weird because I really like it. I got over 5 days of life and was still at 30% when I plugged it in last week, which is awesome (less than 10 minutes talk time on it however). I wasnt sure how much battery life an LTE connection would take but it doesent appear to be much in standby.
I do see references to a ZTE blade and rooting them, and that thread (I think its in xda somewhere) stated all ZTE phones have unlocked bootloaders... and there are threads about the 990 (the Overture is the 995) being unlocked. But until I see someone play with their 995 I am not assuming ZTE left it unlocked. It is a phone on the ATT network so I would expect them to be less customer friendly. (qualification: they dont like you monkeying with their phones as much, but the customer service is tons better than a straight-talk type provider for sure)
I am just hoping I'll run across a post stating how to root it someday. LTE is awesome speeds, but it still burns me up to have to spend some of my bandwidth on video ads on youtube. Especially for something I would never buy and they show the same commercial over and over and over...
-=RB
I also read that zte devices where all unlocked. But if my memory serves correctly, the guide on how to root zte devices found on xDA was for android 2.3.
Surprised that nothing has appeared for the phone. It was a cheap decent price with lte capabilities. Thought more people would be using it.
When I get a chance to tinker with the phone I will.
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Finally found something at least.
http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/zte-overture/
Can't try it as my gf has the phone. Just a heads up if anyone wants to try it. Please post back if you do.
I dont own this phone (yet), however been helping this girl get hers set up. If I buy one may give this a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319257
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Finally found something at least.
http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/zte-overture/
Can't try it as my gf has the phone. Just a heads up if anyone wants to try it. Please post back if you do.
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But this looks promising
Tried oneclickroot with no success. It did recognize the device it just would not root.
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Well I tried that Root Method and it seem to work fine and its pretty easy. Installed super user seems to be working fine the only thing that i am having toruble with is getting the wifi tether to work (im using WiFi tether- TrevE Mod) got it installed and all but when i turn it on it gives me a message tethering started with errors to go to the show log.. I do that and in the show logg everything looks fine except a section named "Enabling NAT rules..." that says failed any suggestions????
Never played much with wifi tethering but usb tethering works. I used foxfi free, however they cut off at bout 45 mb then ya need to restart it. Tried a few others with lil success so far. Gota like AIOs tethering policy, or lack of.
Good to know this will root, cept now I get to figure out why it wouldnt for me. You used oneclickroot? Did you install the drivers manually?
Yes I did install the drivers manually I was having trouble at first for some reason it would get stuck on on of the processes but finally got it. I the only thing is that im having toruble trying to tethering i dont know why have not tried the usb method might try that dont know if i would be abel to used it with my playstaion.. thats the main reason i was trying to tether..
Any was I was reading that that the erros message that it gave me in my show log.. (Enabling NAT rules... Failed) had something to do with the kernel not supporting wifi tether that i would have to flash a different kernel in the phone any suggestions??
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Never played much with wifi tethering but usb tethering works. I used foxfi free, however they cut off at bout 45 mb then ya need to restart it. Tried a few others with lil success so far. Gota like AIOs tethering policy, or lack of.
Good to know this will root, cept now I get to figure out why it wouldnt for me. You used oneclickroot? Did you install the drivers manually?
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Nothing like wasting your time to post something that has no value or relevance..... Moving on
@chuco10. Thanks for the feedback. I'll be tinkering around with with rooting that phone in a week or so, when I visit the gf. Awesome to know it works.
Sure I'll be trying to figure out the WiFi tether as well. At least with the phone rooted I can bypass that stupid WiFi restriction on Google hangouts video calling. Thanks again for posting back. Appreciate it
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Nothing like wasting your time to post something that has no value or relevance..... Moving on
@chuco10. Thanks for the feedback. I'll be tinkering around with with rooting that phone in a week or so, when I visit the gf. Awesome to know it works.
Sure I'll be trying to figure out the WiFi tether as well. At least with the phone rooted I can bypass that stupid WiFi restriction on Google hangouts video calling. Thanks again for posting back. Appreciate it
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Yeah No problem. Let me know if you get the the wifi tether to work im going to keep messing around with it for a lil bit see if i can get anything worked out.. hopefully I can start tethering soon.. ONly if i could find a kernel that will be compatible with the this phone..
so, what actually works?
Ok, just so I read the thread correctly, the one click root site DID work for getting root, but the other referenced thread talking about rooting the blade has not been proven to work on the 995/overture, correct?
One click pops up frequently in my searches for root, but I thought it involved downloading a windows app and paying $30 to some unknown website. If that is true then I'll wait till another method is posted. I won't risk running an app unless I know what it is really doing to both my phone and my PC. And I am certainly not forking out $30 for it.
It seems risky and, well, not in the spirit of xda... I mean isn't it more about learning how it all works, discovering how to do it on your own, and working with fellow xda'ers to develop and vet a good (transparent) process for root?
If one click works well and you don't mind the cost and not knowing what their software is really doing, then that's ok. There's no right or wrong here in my opinion.
I just don't see it as being as much fun or as safe a way to get to root...
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Ok, just so I read the thread correctly, the one click root site DID work for getting root, but the other referenced thread talking about rooting the blade has not been proven to work on the 995/overture, correct?
One click pops up frequently in my searches for root, but I thought it involved downloading a windows app and paying $30 to some unknown website. If that is true then I'll wait till another method is posted. I won't risk running an app unless I know what it is really doing to both my phone and my PC. And I am certainly not forking out $30 for it.
It seems risky and, well, not in the spirit of xda... I mean isn't it more about learning how it all works, discovering how to do it on your own, and working with fellow xda'ers to develop and vet a good (transparent) process for root?
If one click works well and you don't mind the cost and not knowing what their software is really doing, then that's ok. There's no right or wrong here in my opinion.
I just don't see it as being as much fun or as safe a way to get to root...
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Says free http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/zte-overture/ i was never prompted to pay.
cool.
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Says free http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/zte-overture/ i was never prompted to pay.
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Well then I guess the reviews on their forum were incorrect then... When I looked thru their blog there were comments stating it asked for $$ at some point. Aside from that there were tons of complaints about unsupported phones... And maybe one or two happy posts out of 20 bad ones.
I'll give it a closer look then. I know I can sandbox the application in a VM, so maybe I can get a backup of the phone before I play with it w/o using clockwork as well.
Will post what I find... Thanks!
OK, who actually got oneclick to work? And has anyone used the blade thread sucessfully?
Also, if you read the legalese when installing it, it clearly states the payment for service must be made to a canadian recovery company, and that you release all rights, etc etc. I did notice any legalese on privacy was missing, which I expected to see. There is a license tab with a space for activation codes as well. (i.e. it's definitely a paid app, but trying to find out how much is difficult, its not on their website anywhere.)
And I can verify the oneclickroot tries to see the device (goes thru identify, validate, download, install), but always throws up a "Please confirm your device is connected - install ADB manually" box. ADB Driver links bounce you to the ZTE news page that has a link for an older "ZTE 3G adb driver download" which gives you a file - "ZTE_Android USB_Driver_For_Microsoft_PC.rar". And after installing that, I still don't have any luck getting the solution to work.
I suspect those first few "steps" in oneclick root are bogus as well, because if you don't have any phone connected and start the process, it still goes through the "Identify, validate, download, install" steps.
For the phone, I noticed that while I can choose from several different options for connections in settings (Charge Only, USB Mass Storage, Install Driver, Connect to PC Software, Media Device (MTP), and Camera (PTP) ) several of those options show a failure in windows for the "Android" driver. That said, I have no problem using or connecting to the phone as a media device, camera, or mass storage device, so I'm not sure what the "Android" device driver that keeps failing is supposed to be for. Maybe that's what is preventing oneclickroot from going further, but I have no way to tell at this point.
So I would recommend at this point to stay away from it. Overpriced, does not work (even though it attempts to appear it is doing something), and privacy concerns are not addressed in their legalese, as well as we still have no idea what their executable is actually doing to the phone or the windows host, and they wont clearly state what it costs.
24br said:
OK, who actually got oneclick to work? And has anyone used the blade thread sucessfully?
Also, if you read the legalese when installing it, it clearly states the payment for service must be made to a canadian recovery company, and that you release all rights, etc etc. I did notice any legalese on privacy was missing, which I expected to see. There is a license tab with a space for activation codes as well. (i.e. it's definitely a paid app, but trying to find out how much is difficult, its not on their website anywhere.)
And I can verify the oneclickroot tries to see the device (goes thru identify, validate, download, install), but always throws up a "Please confirm your device is connected - install ADB manually" box. ADB Driver links bounce you to the ZTE news page that has a link for an older "ZTE 3G adb driver download" which gives you a file - "ZTE_Android USB_Driver_For_Microsoft_PC.rar". And after installing that, I still don't have any luck getting the solution to work.
I suspect those first few "steps" in oneclick root are bogus as well, because if you don't have any phone connected and start the process, it still goes through the "Identify, validate, download, install" steps.
For the phone, I noticed that while I can choose from several different options for connections in settings (Charge Only, USB Mass Storage, Install Driver, Connect to PC Software, Media Device (MTP), and Camera (PTP) ) several of those options show a failure in windows for the "Android" driver. That said, I have no problem using or connecting to the phone as a media device, camera, or mass storage device, so I'm not sure what the "Android" device driver that keeps failing is supposed to be for. Maybe that's what is preventing oneclickroot from going further, but I have no way to tell at this point.
So I would recommend at this point to stay away from it. Overpriced, does not work (even though it attempts to appear it is doing something), and privacy concerns are not addressed in their legalese, as well as we still have no idea what their executable is actually doing to the phone or the windows host, and they wont clearly state what it costs.
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HUH thats wierd i got mine to work no problem and never asked for no payment nothing.. The only thing that i cant get to work is the wifi tether still having problem there any suggestiongs..
chuco10 said:
HUH thats wierd i got mine to work no problem and never asked for no payment nothing.. The only thing that i cant get to work is the wifi tether still having problem there any suggestiongs..
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There may be an app blocking mobile hotspot like tmobile puts on there phones. Seems unlikely since AIO told me they had no problems with tethering but never know. Pick up an uninstaller from the play store an look through all the apps.
Only other suggestion i can think of right now is trying the different wifi tethering apps available.
Maybe one of these days we will get a dev in here making custom ROMS, can only hope. :fingers-crossed:
This may be something http://androidforums.com/force-4g-lte-all-things-root/702172-wifi-tether.html
Would try it myself but don't have it yet. Or access to the phone i was setting up. (that woman was crazy)
NomadSpin said:
There may be an app blocking mobile hotspot like tmobile puts on there phones. Seems unlikely since AIO told me they had no problems with tethering but never know. Pick up an uninstaller from the play store an look through all the apps.
Only other suggestion i can think of right now is trying the different wifi tethering apps available.
Maybe one of these days we will get a dev in here making custom ROMS, can only hope. :fingers-crossed:
This may be something http://androidforums.com/force-4g-lte-all-things-root/702172-wifi-tether.html
Would try it myself but don't have it yet. Or access to the phone i was setting up. (that woman was crazy)
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Thanks NomadSpin im going to try the uninstaller but what kind of app. would I be looking for that would block the wifi tether??
Hi,
I just wanted to report what it is likely to be a bug after the latest update to 4.3
Power-off takes 60 secs vs 7-8 secs before the update.
I read somewhere this is due to the applications to be closed, which obviously was also the case before the update, therefore I don't get it.
I am sure many other people must have the same problem, anybody in this forum found a fix or got any official feedback from Sony regarding this issue?
Cheers
Alex
It's indeeed a bug with the 4.3 update, but nothing to be worried about (I mean, won't cause any problems). Just wait a little bit more so it can fully shut down...
Since in normal operation one never shuts a tablet down, the bug is irrelevant.
Hi,
Maybe is not relevant for you, my tablet, once has been used is powered-off and this may happen multiple times per day, so for me this is very relevant.
I hope Sony will fix this soon.
Alex
kwajongen said:
Hi,
Maybe is not relevant for you, my tablet, once has been used is powered-off and this may happen multiple times per day, so for me this is very relevant.
I hope Sony will fix this soon.
Alex
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Why do you turn if off so often? There's no need for that.
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kwajongen said:
Hi,
Maybe is not relevant for you, my tablet, once has been used is powered-off and this may happen multiple times per day, so for me this is very relevant.
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Then you simply don't have a clue how a mobile device is meant to be used.
hasenbein1966 said:
Then you simply don't have a clue how a mobile device is meant to be used.
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It's a question of perspective, in principle you should never judge someone else's behavior, also because, sooner or later you may discover you were wrong
Regardless, this is a bug, period. This is what I wanted to know, the rest is not important.
For me this topic is closed, unless somebody has something relevant and pertinent to add to my original question.
Thank you
Alex
kwajongen said:
It's a question of perspective, in principle you should never judge someone else's behavior, also because, sooner or later you may discover you were wrong
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In other cases this is right, but in this case you're simply wrong, period. Your habit of turning off the tablet after each use is laughably nooby and BS-y, except if you can name a really good, special reason for that (I take all bets that you don't have one.)
i'm not taking sides, but dam why on earth would you switch your tablet off multiple times a day ? There's no point if you need proof ? Your speaking to it. i know this is a bit of topic, i picked a Core i7 Mac Book Pro. it's a late 2011 model. And that's the year i picked it up 2011 since 2011 i haven't switched of my mac book pro not once, it's always been on standby and mostly plugged into the thunderbolt display.. The battery cycle count is 50 witch shows there's no need to switch off your electronics as the hardware in today's technology is built to be in standby for months and years on end, we live in a fast pace planet, instant use, instant boot.. And switching your electronics on and off wears and tears the hardware much faster.. FACT!
hasenbein1966 said:
In other cases this is right, but in this case you're simply wrong, period. Your habit of turning off the tablet after each use is laughably nooby and BS-y, except if you can name a really good, special reason for that (I take all bets that you don't have one.)
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A good reason for doing so could be - it's HIS device, not yours!
Call it laughable, BS'y or whatever you want, he can do what ever he want with HIS device - like it or not.
I also turn mine off/restart once a while. Not several times daily, but maybe once/twice a week. It runs better/faster/smother after a restart (my oppinion).
He can do, but then he should not complain.
And we're not talking about one restart every few days, we're talking about restarting for each f*****g use, several times a day!
Wow, this thread is out of control. I use my tablet all day long ... If I had to shut it down after each use I would probably go through the process about 200 times daily and Yes the tablet does take time to shutdown. Thanks god I only shutdown/reboot when I update my SuperSU to make it part of the system files otherwise I would throw it out the window or shoot myself. But since a tablet is meant to stay on Sleep/StandBy, Im not sure Sony would consider this a bug ... If it is, then I have to agree ... at least to me ... irrelevant but I feel for the guy that needs to wait 60 secs everytime he shuts it down after a single use.
Not judging but do you shut down your phone after each call you make? They are the same types of devices.