i came across a very interesting article on Sony Ericsson Product Blog... SE seems to be working on ICS and outlines what all goes on to get stuff to work...
here is the link: http://developer.sonyericsson.com/w...from-source-code-release-to-software-upgrade/
i have posted it here (in development section) as i think it will be useful for users to make them aware on what all goes on in development for new OS version release...
also do keep in mind that even the device manufacturer (SE) has to do so much work; so u can only imagine the amount of work/efforts the devs (here at XDA and other android forums/portals), who are working on sources, are pouring into making this work for the community...
please do read it... its very interesting...
regards,
DooMLoRD
First we take the clean blazing fast Android OS. Then add a whole bunch of useless crap to bog it down because we feel it works too well on your handset as is.
So does this mean as soon as the source code is released from sony we could easily flash this to rooted R800x plays even with a locked bootloader
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So does this mean as soon as the source code is released from sony we could easily flash this to rooted R800x plays even with a locked bootloader
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No, you'll have to wait for verizon to push an update, and don't count on that one.
thanks doomlord for this interesting and fascinating post.
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Sony Ericsson Dev blog post: ICS build release process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1380448
i can only cling to my belief that verizon isn't releasing 2.3.4 because they want to spend all their time on ICS and get it to us faster
i swear i'm not crazy, just a hopeful idiot
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i can only cling to my belief that verizon isn't releasing 2.3.4 because they want to spend all their time on ICS and get it to us faster
i swear i'm not crazy, just a hopeful idiot
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Either that or wait for CM9, if the play is supported of course.
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It'd be nice to see roms on here with a locked bootloader. I'm struggling to get my head round this fastboot stuff :s I miss the ease of the Xperia X8
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It'd be nice to see roms on here with a locked bootloader. I'm struggling to get my head round this fastboot stuff :s I miss the ease of the Xperia X8
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It's impossible to flash a custom rom with a locked bootloader. S1 boot will not allow the flashing of unsigned images
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It'd be nice to see roms on here with a locked bootloader. I'm struggling to get my head round this fastboot stuff :s I miss the ease of the Xperia X8
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Oh there will be... Hopefully if the developer interest picks up...
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It's impossible to flash a custom rom with a locked bootloader. S1 boot will not allow the flashing of unsigned images
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That's partly incorrect... U can flash custom roms on locked bootloader (flashing via recovery)... How do u think the users of Xperia 2009-2010 devices have survived locked bootloaders
But u can't use FLASHTOOL to flash them as FTF/.SIN...
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I Remember with the droid X and 2 the locked bootloaders didn't stop development on it i believe koush made a boot strap program to get flashing to work :/, also that was a very interesting read.
It's not an obstacle either for the Xperia bootloaders, given that the same people here brought custom ROMs to the bootloader-locked older Xperia models. But again, they decided not to try to bypass the locked bootloader, seeing as there is an officially sponsored way to unlock it.
Damn :-( I just can't seem to get the fastboot commands working on windows XP damn it's age!
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That's partly incorrect... U can flash custom roms on locked bootloader (flashing via recovery)... How do u think the users of Xperia 2009-2010 devices have survived locked bootloaders
But u can't use FLASHTOOL to flash them as FTF/.SIN...
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For us to do that, we would need to work out a solution to make /boot/ writeable on a locked BL though.
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For us to do that, we would need to work out a solution to make /boot/ writeable on a locked BL though.
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With locked bootloader using root you should be able to use a shell script to boot into a custom recovery. But as we have no other ways to flash kernels, roms are mosty limited to stock.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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the whole meaning of this blogpost is "why we will deliver ICS in 4months from now" or "why it will take ages to release ICS on the Xperia 2011 line" they could also release ICS clean without any Sony Stuff and provide a "skinned" Version later,i would prefer ICS as it is on the Galaxy Nexus personally
don`t really know what they are trying with this post other than an early excuse why it will be long time till we see ICS on the xperia 2011 line..
Man glad I got rid of my verizon play I upgraded to a samsung stratosphere the play could of and shouod of been a hit but
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No, you'll have to wait for verizon to push an update, and don't count on that one.
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the whole meaning of this blogpost is "why we will deliver ICS in 4months from now" or "why it will take ages to release ICS on the Xperia 2011 line" they could also release ICS clean without any Sony Stuff and provide a "skinned" Version later,i would prefer ICS as it is on the Galaxy Nexus personally
don`t really know what they are trying with this post other than an early excuse why it will be long time till we see ICS on the xperia 2011 line..
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Sorry to say it but you must feel like a complete arse now SE has released official ICS betas for some devices.
Maybe they were actually telling you the process, not making an excuse.
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so, as title says i am getting my neo (not neo V) tomorrow.
i see diferent ways to unlock the bootloader, also a ways to relock it.
as i dont know what version it will be what is the safest path to having CM7 on it?
is there something i should know/be aware of before starting to flash it. (shiny brick on first day yay! no.) like what isnt working properly (bravia on cm7?) 3d games on cm7? battery drain?
any info would be cool. thx in advance!
do not flash android 2.3.2 it will brick your phone.
Unlock boot loader via test point method to keep your DRM functionality and your warranty!
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So do i will be getting it by 2mwr
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Unlock boot loader via test point method to keep your DRM functionality and your warranty!
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How? And is it free?
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somebody should really make a all in one tutorial on the basic like root,bootloader n others. just a suggestion
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i bought neo, and didnt even do any bootloader unlocking and other stuff, the phone is awesomely good.. Didnt feel the need of doing so.
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somebody should really make a all in one tutorial on the basic like root,bootloader n others. just a suggestion
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There are tuts!
BL unlocking LINK
General stuff
I'll make one for the NEO forums
'm on it
Qwerty123 \m/ said:
There are tuts!
BL unlocking LINK
General stuff
I'll make one for the NEO forums
'm on it
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This tuts are for neo V...
I know it can be equal, but we (especially newbies) were always in doubt because the title refers to Neo V!
I am with Qwerty123 \m/. I think it is important to someone making a complete tutorial which gathers all the information. It's just my opinion.
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How? And is it free?
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it's free !
make a little search on the forum , write xperia neo test point
just follow this guide
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_Xperia_Neo:_Full_Update_Guide
that's how i did it oh, and i suggest you flash CM 7.1.0.1, as the CM 7.2 is missing a few things yet, and CM 7.1.0.2 often ends up in a software bootloop
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or, even better, flash THIS!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20442358#post20442358
yeah, it's 7.2, i know, but it's CM with SE visuals! can't get much better!
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it's free !
make a little search on the forum , write xperia neo test point
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Could you give me a link to that thread?
I am not too lazy but i cant search it on my PC since i have a problem with my PC's connectivity.
And ive tried to search from xda app but search function here too stupid, it never found what i am looking for (damn free apps).
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Don't flash CM7,it's pretty much abandoned by the devs. Instead wait for CM9 which should be ready soon
Guys i bought my Xperia S few weeks ago, but i am so :-S about rooting my phone or not. Can you guys please help me what i should do, i know my guarentee goes if i root. But i also know root brings good things for my phone..
Now guys i ask you all. Please help me making my decision and can you also tell me full details for rooting like what can i do exactly with this phone, wich advantages i will have wich disadvantages etc.. I am new to XDA and i know there are places info about Root.
But i want information for my phone Self and opinions of users self.
Thanks alot for the people who helps!
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Guys i bought my Xperia S few weeks ago, but i am so :-S about rooting my phone or not. Can you guys please help me what i should do, i know my guarentee goes if i root. But i also know root brings good things for my phone..
Now guys i ask you all. Please help me making my decision and can you also tell me full details for rooting like what can i do exactly with this phone, wich advantages i will have wich disadvantages etc.. I am new to XDA and i know there are places info about Root.
But i want information for my phone Self and opinions of users self.
Thanks alot for the people who helps!
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well I'm still not rooted (have more then enough knowledge to do so ) and still happy with my Xperia
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well I'm still not rooted (have more then enough knowledge to do so ) and still happy with my Xperia
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Totally agree, normally I like to get root straight away but with the Xperia S I just feel no need at present.
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Totally depends on what you wanna do with it.
I needed root voor titanium backup and root explorer. If you don't need this then there is really no need.
At the moment I don't see a reason to root. The rom is great and stable. The only reason for rooting I see now is if you want to install/flash a host file to stop all the ads.
There's also a nice framework mod out now with quick toggles in the notification bar. Like there is in cyanogenmod.
I have still not rooted the xps. Will probably do it when some good custom roms are out..
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If you use a rom does that change the phone completely or just a part? Or does it only add something?
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It depends on the Rom. If CM9 or even CM10 reaches the XS then you get a completely different user experience. If you use a custom rom based on the existing XS NXT skin then it still is Sony interface.
I have not yet needed to root yet myself either.
I would wait for ICS before i do any rooting. Only reason i would root is to get rid of bloatware and those annoying ads.
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I would wait for ICS before i do any rooting. Only reason i would root is to get rid of bloatware and those annoying ads.
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Whats ICS explain please..
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Ics = Ice Cream Sandwich aka android latest OS.
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So guys if i root my xperia s now i will upgrade to ics coming month with no problems? And if i upgrade to ics, does root stays or do i have to re-root after system update??
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Root will be gone after update so you have to root again.
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Hello everyone i tried looking around this forum but cant find what i need do i need to have the bootloader unlocked to have root access and whats the safest way to root my device
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Unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phone are two separate processes, and you don't need one to have the other.
As far as root methods and the rest, have you looked here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393519
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Unlocking the bootloader and rooting the phone are two separate processes, and you don't need one to have the other.
As far as root methods and the rest, have you looked here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393519
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Im a noob with motorola i always had samsung. Samsung doesnt have a bootloader what is good about unlocking the bootloader sorry for my noon question
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Im a noob with motorola i always had samsung. Samsung doesnt have a bootloader what is good about unlocking the bootloader sorry for my noon question
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Unlocking the bootloader allows you to load roms like CM7, CM9, MIUI - anything that uses a custom kernel. It also allows you to load up a custom recovery.
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braindeadracefan said:
Unlocking the bootloader allows you to load roms like CM7, CM9, MIUI - anything that uses a custom kernel. It also allows you to load up a custom recovery.
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Oh ok thank you for that info im gonna stay stock waiting for ics 4.0 comes out in may
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Where did you head ICS in may? Sorry to hi-jack. Just being hopeful here.
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Where did you head ICS in may? Sorry to hi-jack. Just being hopeful here.
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For now, the only Motorola smartphones scheduled to get ICS in 2012 are thr Photon 4G, Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 starting in July. The rest of Motorola's lineup, including the Droid 4 and Droid Razr Maxx are in the evaluation and planning stage, and that means there is no guarantee they will be updated.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/299936/20120216/ice-cream-sandwich-update-ready-motorola-photon.htm
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Right here is the issue. I've changed this thread twice now to keep the clutter away. Seeing I can't unlock my bootloader due to it being a 3 mobile bootloader (If I can please help me out as im struggling to find info) I can't flash CM9? Or even 10 for that matter? This is really frustrating me, I don't have a clue what to do, a lot of the information on bootloaders like mine is very bare and slim and not really helping me or anyone else in my position out very much. I can't root either which is as big a ***** as the bootloader situation....can someone point me in the right direction or just plain tell me nothing that I want is possible?
Further more, roms don't contain bootloaders do they? It's the phone itself? However, saying this, it is possible to flash bootloaders on the motorola defy....would the case not be the same here?
If your bootloader is unlockable then you can not flash custom roms, ie cm9 or cm10.
However you can flash stock roms via flashtool and you can root with a locked bootloader, there are a couple of threads which tell you how to root, here's one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
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Right here is the issue. I've changed this thread twice now to keep the clutter away. Seeing I can't unlock my bootloader due to it being a 3 mobile bootloader (If I can please help me out as im struggling to find info) I can't flash CM9? Or even 10 for that matter? This is really frustrating me, I don't have a clue what to do, a lot of the information on bootloaders like mine is very bare and slim and not really helping me or anyone else in my position out very much. I can't root either which is as big a ***** as the bootloader situation....can someone point me in the right direction or just plain tell me nothing that I want is possible?
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I am also with Three and have a locked BL, but using the guides found in these forums I managed to Root my device and even install MIUI yesterday, but MIUI is not great in my personal opinion so I reverted back to ICS.
There are not many ROMs out there for those of us with Locked BL's and until they find a way to get passed the BL or make more ROMs for us, we are limited to Stock ROMs and as far as I am aware not many of those exist besides MIUI.
Cheers lads! I'm just wondering now if we could take a leaf out of the Motorola Defy's development books. As I said, even with a locked bootloader they were using cm9 and even cm10 now! Unstable due to the old kernels, but still, managed it
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Cheers lads! I'm just wondering now if we could take a leaf out of the Motorola Defy's development books. As I said, even with a locked bootloader they were using cm9 and even cm10 now! Unstable due to the old kernels, but still, managed it
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All we can do is hope my friend, seems Sony were slow in every regard to develop for this phone and that in turn has limited the progress of external developers, I mean just look at the amount of time it has taken Sony to get ICS out to us and that has impacted others in development.
We are now seeing the FreeXperia Project rolling out builds, though they remain solely for Unlocked BL's, MIUI is a step in the right direction for us, so I see no reason why others for Locked BL's will not appear in due course. Patience is the game when it comes to the Xperia S.
By the way, I have read from a few people that getting the SIM Lock removed does in some instances lead to BL Unlocking ability, I contacted Three and they told me the charge for unlocking the SIM from them via a code is £15 and I believe it gets applied to your bill as a one off fee if you want to try it and see in the service menu if your BL after a reboot shows the ability to be unlocked.
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Mobfigurz said:
All we can do is hope my friend, seems Sony were slow in every regard to develop for this phone and that in turn has limited the progress of external developers, I mean just look at the amount of time it has taken Sony to get ICS out to us and that has impacted others in development.
We are now seeing the FreeXperia Project rolling out builds, though they remain solely for Unlocked BL's, MIUI is a step in the right direction for us, so I see no reason why others for Locked BL's will not appear in due course. Patience is the game when it comes to the Xperia S.
By the way, I have read from a few people that getting the SIM Lock removed does in some instances lead to BL Unlocking ability, I contacted Three and they told me the charge for unlocking the SIM from them via a code is £15 and I believe it gets applied to your bill as a one off fee if you want to try it and see in the service menu if your BL after a reboot shows the ability to be unlocked.
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I'm with 3 as well and the first thing I did was to have my xperia s sim unlocked.
This did not unlock the bootloader as I was hoping
Having said that I was able to root the thing using the tutorials in these forums, so I'm pretty happy
Have to say the stock ROM looks quite good and I'd try some other ROMs just for the sake of it
I would try and sim unlock the phone if my bill wasnt horrendous already, they charged me for twitter sending texts to me haha! So sad. But back to the topic, I was just floating around the Motorola Defy forum again and they somehow extracted the bootloader seperately to try and unlock it! I really hope someone looks in to this would be so helpful if someone could extract their own, unlocked BL and we could flash it! ;o
I maybe barking up the wrong tree here but when i had my X10 and was in associated forum. The bootloader was locked and root was difficult.
Some of the devs were in contact with Sony to try and come to some compromise on the security. ( hence un-branded phones now having unlocked boot loaders)
The trouble is...
On branded handsets the bootloaders contain certain information that your network providers don't want you to have access to.
The devs are aware of this and respectively leave the bootloader compromising alone.
This is not saying it can't be done, just saying that out of respect for sony allowing some phones to have unlocked bootloaders those that are locked are being treated to the respect sony asked for.
Of course not all devs worldwide are so respectful so it will be compromised and indeed has been but currently only for sim unlocking.
Of course this post may just be a crock-o-crap and people may already working on workarounds.???
I would guess that for bootloader unlocking your best bet would be a phone unlocking solution like setool or ezsemc but these are not going to be free options and currently not available on the XPS
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Why i did'nt see anyone flashing the relock bootloader on a locked one. My common sense tells me that it might go from allowed=no to allowed=yes.
And you dont need fastboot access to flash it only flashmode and is tft file, just wondering..
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Why i did'nt see anyone flashing the relock bootloader on a locked one. My common sense tells me that it might go from allowed=no to allowed=yes.
And you dont need fastboot access to flash it only flashmode and is tft file, just wondering..
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It just won't let you flash.
K900 said:
It just won't let you flash.
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Even if you have root?
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Even if you have root?
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Yes.
Contact jinx13 he can unlock bootloader for you I am sure, I am on three UK with unlocked boot , phone was unlocked and I am sure jinx13 can do it with setool
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Is that a cost free service from him though?
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Is that a cost free service from him though?
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Cost he does it remotely
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Cost he does it remotely
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Okay mate. Thanks a bunch. I'll get in contact with him and see what he has to offer.
You know what guys, I really miss honeycomb. Especially the way you add widgets and also the customization that Sony did with the app drawer- they shouldn't have gotten rid of it in my opinion.
I still have my old Tablet S (Although with a cracked screen sadly)
Is it possible (I have root) to downgrade to 3.2?
Why did Google get rid of the awesome screen which added widgets.
Or perhaps someone could send the launcher?
Ive done extensive research and tried many methods and asked people alot smarter than me it cant be done until the bootloader is u locked. Once it is than we can the reason is because the recovery has been updated in the current version of android and once it is you cant go back because it is part of the Rom and is hidden. Yes ive tried downgrading and before I got bootlooped it said cannot because of recovery version. I WASTED about 2 months on this idea as well as a few other people and also Condi the best dev we have over here for the tablet s has tried and theres still no way until the bootloader. Ive also looked at testpoint unlock but if you've ever looked at the motherboard theres gazillions of testpoints so who knows which is the right one plus taking it apart isnt exactly a walk in the park like it is with phones. Youll just have to wait like me. Btw head over and sign the bootloader unlock petition.
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I think last time I used this awesome tool i saw the oppirtunity to flash HC back since you can select the firmware you want to flash.
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I think last time I used this awesome tool i saw the oppirtunity to flash HC back since you can select the firmware you want to flash.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050126
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Is that a new additive last time it was ics roms and up
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Yes, I flashed ICS R5 on my Tablet S this time.
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