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so my friend just got an evo 3d. I currently have the shift.
So ill be new to the 3d forums and asking a lot of questions!
My first question, what's cdma and gsm? I noticed you guys had two different development forums for the 3d.
And anything else a beginner should know about this phone?
Evo SHIFT
Cdma: Sprint and Verizon, gsm: tmobile and at&t, basically different cellular networks. Also as far as things to know, so far only way to unlock after latest HTC update is the official HTC method, which still leaves u with s-on. If the phone isn't updated yet, don't update it, use revolutionary to get s-off. I think that's the gist of important things? Haha , anything else I can help with I'd love to try so feel free to ask, but Im actually new to xda myself!
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Enraged21 said:
so my friend just got an evo 3d. I currently have the shift.
So ill be new to the 3d forums and asking a lot of questions!
My first question, what's cdma and gsm? I noticed you guys had two different development forums for the 3d.
And anything else a beginner should know about this phone?
Evo SHIFT
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CDMA and GSM are different wireless technologies. To make it easy Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers and AT&t and TMobile are GSM.
The only thing someone who had no knowledge of the differences would notice is that usually (99% of the time) only GSM phones have sim card slots.
So, since you have the shift I am assuming that your friend has the evo3d on sprint. That means he (or she) would need to look at the CDMA development page for info and roms.
gsm is Global System for Mobile Communications cdma is Code division multiple access just in case u wanted to know.in my opinion cdma is better i have used both and find it to work better.if u decided to get a evo 3d and need help rooting and roming just pm me i will be more than happy to help
edit: i wouldn't worry to much about being a beginner there is always someone who will help its a great phone and very user friendly rooting might be a little different then u may have done in the past but not hard to do keep in mind if you get the phone soon do not except the ota when u first get the phone as of right now there is no way to root 2.3.4 but like i said you can pm me anytime and i will be more than happy to help
Yeah evo3d is on sprint.
Now I understand that its cdma.
I'm only a beginner to the 3d cause I'm not familiar with the model. I've rooted my shift plus my cousins evo. So I'm somewhat familiar with the evo family.
Hboot on the 3d is 1.3
I gotta root it with revolutionary. Is this a one click method or do I have to setup sdk and adb commands?
After I root, what's the best recovery for this phone? Is cwm compatible?
Thanks everyone!
Its much appreciated. I love learning about new things.
Also, absurd is the nick name for sense, right?
Evo SHIFT
For revolutionary I'm pretty sure you need adb, but there's great instructional vids and posts on xda guiding you through. Also, you can use cwm, but twrp (team win recovery project) is another good option.
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Sandor3 said:
For revolutionary I'm pretty sure you need adb, but there's great instructional vids and posts on xda guiding you through. Also, you can use cwm, but twrp (team win recovery project) is another good option.
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Cool. Thanks bro
Evo SHIFT
No problem, I was an idiot and took the update though , so I'm stuck waiting for root Haha derp
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The 2.3.4 update?
Evo SHIFT
Yeah, the one with the new hboot
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Enraged21 said:
Yeah evo3d is on sprint.
Now I understand that its cdma.
I'm only a beginner to the 3d cause I'm not familiar with the model. I've rooted my shift plus my cousins evo. So I'm somewhat familiar with the evo family.
Hboot on the 3d is 1.3
I gotta root it with revolutionary. Is this a one click method or do I have to setup sdk and adb commands?
After I root, what's the best recovery for this phone? Is cwm compatible?
Thanks everyone!
Its much appreciated. I love learning about new things.
Also, absurd is the nick name for sense, right?
Evo SHIFT
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you dont need adb with the revolutionary root/s-off also it is alot easier to stick with that process all the way through with recovery it is basically a one click with a little pre setup. if you need any help with anything just pm me
affliction said:
you dont need adb with the revolutionary root/s-off also it is alot easier to stick with that process all the way through with recovery it is basically a one click with a little pre setup. if you need any help with anything just pm me
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Wait, so do you need adb for official HTC unlock then?
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Sandor3 said:
Wait, so do you need adb for official HTC unlock then?
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That's also my question.
Evo SHIFT
big gulps huh? said:
CDMA and GSM are different wireless technologies. To make it easy Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers and AT&t and TMobile are GSM.
The only thing someone who had no knowledge of the differences would notice is that usually (99% of the time) only GSM phones have sim card slots.
So, since you have the shift I am assuming that your friend has the evo3d on sprint. That means he (or she) would need to look at the CDMA development page for info and roms.
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Hi
And what about not branded EVO? How can I recognized which version I have?
I'm pretty sure, that I have GSM one (cause I bought it in Europe), but I'll be 101% sure before I'll flash new Rom .
Thx for help
BR
so i had a regular evo 4g the charging port broke so insurance sent me a new phone well they basiclly sent me a free upgrade YAY not really i was gonna get my new evo 4g and root it to play nes with a wiimote but they sent me the evo 3d well i went through all the posts on here cant find ne thing on how to get s-off i have hboot 1.50.0000 and software 2.08.651.2 phone is unlocked but not s-off htc method im using synergy rom right now but i wanna run cyanogenmod for the bluetooth stacking can anyone help me please im getting so pissed off with sense i hate it
Even with hboot 1.50 u can get cm7. Look in the Dev section at the stickies. Theres a tutuorial to flash certain Roms with your situation.
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tar210x2 said:
so i had a regular evo 4g the charging port broke so insurance sent me a new phone well they basiclly sent me a free upgrade YAY not really i was gonna get my new evo 4g and root it to play nes with a wiimote but they sent me the evo 3d well i went through all the posts on here cant find ne thing on how to get s-off i have hboot 1.50.0000 and software 2.08.651.2 phone is unlocked but not s-off htc method im using synergy rom right now but i wanna run cyanogenmod for the bluetooth stacking can anyone help me please im getting so pissed off with sense i hate it
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If you are already unlocked and running Synergy, I would assume that you have read the procedure on how to flash ROMS/Kernals. Flashing CM isnt any different that I am aware of. Though I havent flashed a direct version of CM, I did flash the "secretpartymeow" ROM (which was a CM ROM) that was floating around here in late October. Look for the CM thread in the dev section, downlad it, then flash it.
pledge here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341588
Cm7 only for CDMA evo
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don't worry about S-OFF - you can do everything *except* flash radios with S-ON.
Soon we'll all have S-OFF... but for now it's only a minor speedbump
I went through and found it but the link isnt workin ne more
When i try flashing cm7 it stays on the htc screen and dont change so i wiped and reloaded synergy idk what i did wrong and i have sprint so it should be cdma not gsm
Hello all,
I traded that sorry BB Playbook for a lovely Evo 3D. Now I want to root 2.3.5 and I have Hboot 1.5. There is a lot of information that I have combed through but its really confusing. I have a Nexus S and an Evo 4g rooted without issue, but EVO 3D appears to have too many ways to root and I'm not sure where to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
qhinton said:
Hello all,
I traded that sorry BB Playbook for a lovely Evo 3D. Now I want to root 2.3.5 and I have Hboot 1.5. There is a lot of information that I have combed through but its really confusing. I have a Nexus S and an Evo 4g rooted without issue, but EVO 3D appears to have too many ways to root and I'm not sure where to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
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Check the stickies of the development forum for how to downgrade your hboot, after that, use revolutionary to s-off your phone.
Better yet, here's the downgrade thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
qhinton said:
Hello all,
I traded that sorry BB Playbook for a lovely Evo 3D. Now I want to root 2.3.5 and I have Hboot 1.5. There is a lot of information that I have combed through but its really confusing. I have a Nexus S and an Evo 4g rooted without issue, but EVO 3D appears to have too many ways to root and I'm not sure where to start. If someone can point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.
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I would recommend htcdev.com for the official 1.5 unlock. Its easier and safer than downgrading your boot loader.
Vinchenzop said:
Check the stickies of the development forum for how to downgrade your hboot, after that, use revolutionary to s-off your phone.
Better yet, here's the downgrade thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
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Thanks kind sir
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jsp20 said:
I would recommend htcdev.com for the official 1.5 unlock. Its easier and safer than downgrading your boot loader.
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Dude please go back to sucking on your mothers nipple as you have no Idea what you are talking about.
@OP stay away from HTCdev.com do the downgrade it is well worth it in the end yes it does sound scary that you have to brick your phone to achieve h-boot 1.4 with s-off but it works 100% I have done the method and now sitting with an evo3d with h-boot 1.4 s-off running Meanrom with the Anthrax kernel.
spirithandler said:
Dude please go back to sucking on your mothers nipple as you have no Idea what you are talking about.
@OP stay away from HTCdev.com do the downgrade it is well worth it in the end yes it does sound scary that you have to brick your phone to achieve h-boot 1.4 with s-off but it works 100% I have done the method and now sitting with an evo3d with h-boot 1.4 s-off running Meanrom with the Anthrax kernel.
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Too funny. Tiddy milk
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spirithandler said:
Dude please go back to sucking on your mothers nipple as you have no Idea what you are talking about.
@OP stay away from HTCdev.com do the downgrade it is well worth it in the end yes it does sound scary that you have to brick your phone to achieve h-boot 1.4 with s-off but it works 100% I have done the method and now sitting with an evo3d with h-boot 1.4 s-off running Meanrom with the Anthrax kernel.
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Seeing as you HAVE to use the HTCDev method to unlock it in the first place, I would say you have failed. Massively.
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I recently had my EVO 3D replaced by sprint, kept rebooting randomly even after superwipe and flashing completely back to stock. Received a replacement with 1.5 hboot. I downgraded it just fine, never used HTCDev method.
Atomix86 said:
Seeing as you HAVE to use the HTCDev method to unlock it in the first place, I would say you have failed. Massively.
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Maybe you need to read unknownforces thread and you will see you also have the foot in mouth disease.
you dont need to do the HTC unlock method to downgrade the instructions I quite clear in unknownforces thread.
Atomix86 said:
Seeing as you HAVE to use the HTCDev method to unlock it in the first place, I would say you have failed. Massively.
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Well...this is embarrassing...
If you don't want to go through the process of downgrading. I reccomend
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
Painless and fast
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If you are new to rooting and not very computer savy I would recommend htc's unlock method it will give you root albeit with s-on. But if you understand Linux and are good on a computer. I say go ahead with the down grade by unknownforce. I'm gonna do it this weekend. It'll be nice to have s-off.
Vinchenzop said:
Well...this is embarrassing...
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Now, now guys. Let's give our neighbor across the pond the benefit of the doubt as he is on GSM and cannot downgrade boot using unknownforce's method.
OK, Im ready to root my new EVolTE, whats the best method to root giving me S-OFF? I might not flash any rooms for now, but will root just to get tether.
Any advice?
rooting
Right now the only way to get S-Off is to go to HTCdev and get it there, but that isn't "true" S-Off from what I understand, and rooting and S-Off are 2 diff things, to actually root get on youtube and search rooting evo 4g lte, there is a great vid there on how to do it, make sure you have a unzipping program first. it's a piece of cake
S-Off hasn't been officially hacked yet.
Hope this helps
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
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david279 said:
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
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Evol lte doesn't have s-off yet. You can gain root without flashing anything and htcdev is so can install a custom recovery, which gives you ability to flash a rom.
I've been wondering about this myself. I haven't even seen any word on whether anyone is working on getting s-off for this thing. I've been hoping for CM9 to come to the new EVO eventually. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need s-off to flash AOSP? If that's the case then they probably wouldn't even start work on it until someone finds a way to get s-off. I just miss CM7 from my OG EVO and unfortunately there was never a fully working version for the 3D. I really considered getting the Galaxy Nexus but I couldn't pass up the HW specs on this thing.
HTC dev unlock is enough for aosp kush has a cm9 wip that boots
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Also imy guess to get s off will be similar to the junopbear method or.whatever where we have to short out the emmc by grounding it but idk if that same exploit would s off the bootloader ...
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We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
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david279 said:
We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
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Yeah s off just makes things a little easier tho you ya know so I hope we get it before to long
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Yeah been wondering the same thing. I remember when the 3D came out we had a few bounties, two or three different teams and numerous individuals actively trying to get S-Off. Haven't heard from anyone trying to accomplish it for the EvoLTE.
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
ticklemepinks said:
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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From what I remember from my OG EVO & 3D, I thought it was a pain in the butt & took a lot more steps to do as opposed to flashing those things with S-Off.
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ticklemepinks said:
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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Or can we?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698337
One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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More info here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694589
I'm having to come over via insurance and the 3d is what I get. I have a few questions. Is obtaining root on the 3d a difficult process, as doing it on the 4g was simple. Ive noticed that there are 2 different models. CDMA or the other one which one is the one being given out. And overall how has everyones experience been with this phone. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Is obtaining root on the 3d a difficult process, as doing it on the 4g was simple.
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If your hboot is 1.4, you can root with Revolutionary. If it's 1.5, you will have to use the hboot downgrade method, found in the stickies.
Ive noticed that there are 2 different models. CDMA or the other one which one is the one being given out.
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If you're on Sprint, you have the CDMA version.
It isn't hard at all, if you understand adb. You can root with revolutionary on hboot 1.4 or downgrade if you have hboot 1.5. If you dont want to downgrade try the juopunutbear tool for s-off. It work the first try for me.
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dr.chucky said:
It isn't hard at all, if you understand adb. You can root with revolutionary on hboot 1.4 or downgrade if you have hboot 1.5. If you dont want to downgrade try the juopunutbear tool for s-off. It work the first try for me.
You can also go to HTCDEV.COM. They are very good in helping you unlock your bootloader
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Welcome bud, I also got an evo 3d through insurance. Although I think the 4g had a better camera and I miss the looks, the 3d is a lot faster and has a much better screen. I've learned to love it.
Easiest way to do things is follow the htcdev.com unlock process to unlock the bootloader. Install superuser of course, then get 4ext recovery. There is a free version but I would highly recommend getting the paid version as I think it includes the app that lets you control everything from outside recovery. This has a smart flash feature for those who're left with s-on from the HTC unlock and hboot 1.5. It will let you install kernels like you normally would through recovery.
Only problem is, with any sense 3.6 ICS Rom you will have to use chads HTC leak kernel or else you will get boot loops. However 3d and USB mount won't work but you can always mount through recovery.
If you don't want to deal with all that, you can try the wire trick method to get s-off on hboot 1.5 so you can use the stock kernel on sense 3.6. It's stickied here in development. Hope all that helps.
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ncfastls1 said:
Welcome bud, I also got an evo 3d through insurance. Although I think the 4g had a better camera and I miss the looks, the 3d is a lot faster and has a much better screen. I've learned to love it.
Easiest way to do things is follow the htcdev.com unlock process to unlock the bootloader. Install superuser of course, then get 4ext recovery. There is a free version but I would highly recommend getting the paid version as I think it includes the app that lets you control everything from outside recovery. This has a smart flash feature for those who're left with s-on from the HTC unlock and hboot 1.5. It will let you install kernels like you normally would through recovery.
Only problem is, with any sense 3.6 ICS Rom you will have to use chads HTC leak kernel or else you will get boot loops. However 3d and USB mount won't work but you can always mount through recovery.
If you don't want to deal with all that, you can try the wire trick method to get s-off on hboot 1.5 so you can use the stock kernel on sense 3.6. It's stickied here in development. Hope all that helps.
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Don't misinform. I'm using stock HTC 3.0.16 kernel. Boots perfectly.
EDIT: Didn't read that last part. The reason people were getting boot loops, I believe, was the outdated adsp.img.
G.Newton said:
Don't misinform. I'm using stock HTC 3.0.16 kernel. Boots perfectly.
EDIT: Didn't read that last part. The reason people were getting boot loops, I believe, was the outdated adsp.img.
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Looks like you don't have hboot 1.5 and are s-off...that's why. I was going under the assumption that every 3D is coming with hboot 1.5, and has for a while since I got mine back in november with 1.5.
So did they finally run out of the og evo? They are replacing them with 3d's
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Yea I got my 3D 6 mths ago for replacement for the 4G.
Welcome to 3D land. I've been happy with mine and still love this phone.
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So did they finally run out of the og evo? They are replacing them with 3d's
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I think so.
But what I think is funny is that sprint still sells the og, but not the 3d.
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I think so.
But what I think is funny is that sprint still sells the og, but not the 3d.
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Funny. They must be handing out refurb 3d's
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The thing about the 3d is that its a way better phone than 4G. Except for camera of course. But I think all the 3d's come with S-on and H-boot 1.5. HTCDEV really helped me out. When u root, try WarmTwoPointThree ROM. Even faster loadup time and comes with beats audio
Thanks for the feedback.. Im not going to lie. I love my ole evo but the last time I dropped it Did something to the Battery. I have a 3500 ex battery that if in the phone it will shut off every 10 to 20 mins. that and the charging port is failing. At least I get another HTC.