More proof we're better off with our RAZR... - Motorola Droid RAZR

Granted, the writer is using an unlocked version of the Galaxy Nexus, so there aren't the network issues we've all come to know & hate, he basically says the phone itself is lacking, and ICS is GREAT! Can't wait til our "premium" phone gets it!
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=...as-pulse+%28Android+Atlas+-+CNET+for+Pulse%29
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The only real low points on the hardware was the camera, and the build quality. The camera on the RAZR is nothing to write home about.. and I've never had an issue with Samsung build quality before...it's just uses a lot of plastic.

To me the more plastic, the less quality. It's a direct relationship as far as quality 'feel' goes.

My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).

All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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gogreenbay07 said:
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
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I would never say one camera is better than another based off megapixels...it's a meaningless bullet point spec. That said...it looks like it may simply not be that great of a camera based off the OTHER more important specs. Looks like it's the same module as seen in the Galaxy/Nexus S...which was "okay" but not nearly on the same level as the SGS II, or the newer iphones.

I would like some help,
Is the phone heat going up to 120F/49C some thing this phone can take or Is that bad.
P.S My S2 never has gone to more than 113F.

IP IHI II IL said:
All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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Actual space is 27.3g free, of which apps and data share this same space. As far as tunes in the cloud, MUCH better on battery life to play local on device. Not to mention if in area with weak or no coverage.

as far as camera is concerned on our devices, the sensor is fine, the problem I think has to do with the software and compression.
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I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.

Actually I once thought that I'll get a Galaxy Nexus, but as soon as I knew that there's no 32GB version available here, I just go for the razr...

robstunner said:
I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
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Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.

It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.

4ktvs said:
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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Where did you hear that?

4ktvs said:
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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I call bull.
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Grims said:
Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
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Kinda feel the same way, as long as the galaxy nexus comes out before Xmas day as that's my last returnable day.
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I'm feeling the same way. I love the feel of the phone but there are teo major faults that have me thinking I should return it.
The battery is dire. It's nearly out of charge and it is only six hours since it was at 100%.
The wifi reception is beyond bad. I can see six or seven networks with my three year old HTC Hero whereas I only just manage to connect to my own network.
It's a simply beautiful phone but I need it to last a full day and be able to switch to different networks as I move around.
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Hi
I do agree, wi-fi is a little bit weaker on this one as on my desire before, but could connect to all my networks. Real test will happen on monday for wi-fi at the airport, as this was weak on desire also.
Regarding battery life, I really cannot complain, played with the phone on wi-fi for hours ( browsing). From my point of view the battery life is ok.
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Grims said:
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
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For those of us who want a solidly built, robust and quality device the RAZR stomps all over the Nexus from the inside out. I agree that the specs of the Nexus come out ahead and yes it certainly is the more "playful" device for us but that doesn't really matter when it's built like a Samsung. No offence to Samsung but this Moto feels like quality and is quality and sometimes having a stronger foundation is more beneficial in the long run.
Who else goes through the trouble of EMI protection like Moto.
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Dude, research before you said that more EMI shields is a better thing. The reason they need that many is because they had to put every chip on the same side of the PCB. With chips on different side they can use the PCB ground plane as EMI shield so you would see less.

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Motorola dinara

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Motorola just launched the Dinara this morning, but because it was shrouded as a China-only handset, no one really noticed. Well the dual-core, 720p, 13-megapixel XT928 is indeed coming to the US, we've learned, as the MB886 (and internationally as the XT885/XT920); like the MB860 Atrix and MB865 Atrix 2, Dinara is expected to land on AT&T, although possibly not as an exclusive.
This is the second time in recent memory that the company has quietly revealed the international version of a handset before launching the American variant: we saw the Droid 3 spoiled by the Milestone 3 only a few months back. However, with the RAZR having only recently begun shipping -- itself upstaging the Bionic -- it seems unlikely that Dinara will be announced in the US until at least CES.
Full specs on China's Dinara can be found in the press release, linked below. Although the XT928 is a 3G device, expect Dinara to be loaded with LTE radios by the time it arrives stateside (regardless of carrier).
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
Dolby Digital Sound
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I'm Disappointed. Completely.
kholk said:
I'm Disappointed. Completely.
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Yeah..a fatter and larger RAZR? Kind of redundant..and not appetizing.
robstunner said:
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/motorola-dinara-revealed-tipped-for-att
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
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Thanks. But I don't see anything really eye catching. meh
Feels like I just got butthurt
I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
kholk said:
I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
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I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
Semseddin said:
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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This.
If the Dinara is, like is rumored, an LCD screen and a sub-par camera (if the sensor sucks, 13MP might actually be a downgrade since it will make for noisy shots), I would consider it a downgrade from the RAZR. Also, Verizon > AT&T (in my area, and most others; YMMV).
Nothing to see, here. The RAZR will be outclassed soon enough, but not by this.
robstunner said:
I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
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So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
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Yea, that will never happen again (iPhone). I enjoy my razr, and if that post above LCD screen in the dinara is correct, I also say FAIL. I couldn't find any information on the specifics on the Motorola press release.
Semseddin said:
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
Where's the Kevlar, if it ain't stoppin bullets I don't want it.
pajo985 said:
zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
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That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
Honestly, that looks like a RAZR had sex with a Droid X. I appreciate the camera and the screen, but their design is moving backwards now..
And Moto is trying desperately to stay on top, just like everyone else. Android is a quickly-evolving platform, there's always something new around the corner to jam into a device. And when potential buyers are looking for a phone, they always want the newest technology. While it might seem like a bad decision to keep throwing phones out every other week that make yours look like crap, in order to hold their own, they kindof have to. That's why you don't see them cranking out seven tablets every week, tablets are more like "okay well as long as we have the newest processor and a decent GPU we're pretty well off let's check back in 4 months"
Semseddin said:
That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
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I have both phones, and XT has so much better color reproduction, sharpness and noise reduction
maybe I have some old firmware on ZN5, but that's for some another thread..
ICS might actually improve the picture quality. There may be mods as well that make things better. You gotta think what's more important, the phone as a whole or the camera.
robstunner said:
I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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Mmm HTC hasn't been TOO bad about pushing out devices, and even then the specs are either equal, lesser, or slightly better. Moto just seems to be pushing devices out left and right. It is pretty disappointing to drop $300 + on a device and then a few weeks later you see something with higher specs come out. The HD screen vs qHD does make a fairly decent difference from what I've noticed so far. Tbh the upcoming Nexus phone isn't anything revolutionary or spectacular except for ICS. Android phones are just coming out too fast and hopefully it slows down a bit.
damn, i can't wait for this phone! looks like a mean upgrade from my current one.
http://gadgetsteria.com/2011/12/01/flog-that-horse-motorola-droid-razr-max-revealed-in-exif-data/
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When SGS2 gets ICS, will it beat Galaxy Nexus?

Hi all,
Just a simple question
When SGS2 gets ICS, will it beat Galaxy Nexus?
Please share ur thoughts
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I imagine it will take it down a dark alley and slap it around a bit yes....
apart from that, no idea what you are getting at
Yes. Lower res screen, better video and better cpu. Simple as that. I would like a HD screen tho'..
S2 has a better screen, faster processor and SD card expansion slot. It will be better with ICS IMO.
Ofcoz it will!!!
Its GPU is already better, and it has to render less pixels, so it will surely beat it.
depends what you mean by "beat it"
does it really matter though? will you stop enjoying your phone if it is no longer seen as top dog?
Frostfree said:
S2 has a better screen, faster processor and SD card expansion slot. It will be better with ICS IMO.
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This is why I reckon well be in for a long wait b4 we see it on our s2' officially or untill nexus sales slow down
By "beat" do you mean like..an older man with daddy issues or performance/software wise? You sound a tad vague.
Darkside Agent said:
I imagine it will take it down a dark alley and slap it around a bit yes....
apart from that, no idea what you are getting at
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Damn..Reached my thanks limit but dude you are one hell of guy..Best post for a while here in the forums
I think he means beat one off...?
As in wax the dolphin... spank the monkey etc.
Graphics performance-wise - the SGSII will blow the Nexus away. CPU wise, the Nexus has a slightly better processor (more memory bandwidth). Go read about it on the Galaxy Nexus forum in general. Nexus actually does have a slightly better CPU
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too bad the nexus phones come out 9 months after samsungs flagships do.. what's the point in upgrading to a nexus, when 3 months from now sgs3 will be announced, and rape the prime ..
I really do hope the sgs3 has led notifications ... bln is raping my battery, but its such a necessity..
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does it really matter though? will you stop enjoying your phone if it is no longer seen as top dog?
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Yup, if you're the type of person that gets their enjoyment out of being a show off.
Normal people supposedly bought the SGS2 because it fit their needs, how would the Galaxy Nexus make the Galaxy S2 less worthwhile of you? Unless of course, your goal is to have the latest and greatest, in which you should just wait and see which will be better and if the Nexus is better, pay some money and switch.
And I have to laugh at all the SGS2 owners in here defiantly saying the Galaxy Nexus has a poorer screen... sure the Nexus has a PenTile arrangement which on the face of it is a disappointment, but I'd personally wait until I see a Galaxy Nexus in person before passing judgement.
I did and it does not have gradient issue of sgs2 (actually all super amoled plus models, including infuse, i tried not just ours). Nuf said!
That does not mean I'm switching, in fact, no hell!
But screen on sgn is much better, you gotta give them that. Well you don't have to but it's the truth.
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And I have to laugh at all the SGS2 owners in here defiantly saying the Galaxy Nexus has a poorer screen... sure the Nexus has a PenTile arrangement which on the face of it is a disappointment, but I'd personally wait until I see a Galaxy Nexus in person before passing judgement.
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Can't agree more, sometimes we tend to rush to judge things too quickly.
And on topic, I do think the SGS2 will be awesome with ICS. Awesome enough to make 90% of SGS2 owners not feel like they need to switch. Think they'll generally still be on the same tier.
Shawn_230 said:
Yup, if you're the type of person that gets their enjoyment out of being a show off.
Normal people supposedly bought the SGS2 because it fit their needs, how would the Galaxy Nexus make the Galaxy S2 less worthwhile of you? Unless of course, your goal is to have the latest and greatest, in which you should just wait and see which will be better and if the Nexus is better, pay some money and switch.
And I have to laugh at all the SGS2 owners in here defiantly saying the Galaxy Nexus has a poorer screen... sure the Nexus has a PenTile arrangement which on the face of it is a disappointment, but I'd personally wait until I see a Galaxy Nexus in person before passing judgement.
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+1 to you sir. Remember, most of the people here are Apple-haters and absolute GSII fanboys! Myself, I love my GSII and my iPhone 4S, and I can't wait to get a Galaxy Nexus!
King Shady said:
Graphics performance-wise - the SGSII will blow the Nexus away. CPU wise, the Nexus has a slightly better processor (more memory bandwidth). Go read about it on the Galaxy Nexus forum in general. Nexus actually does have a slightly better CPU
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No matter which way you put it, the cpu slaps the nexus cpu around and it shows. Played with one today. Also, the screen is better on sgs2. Not hating, just disappointed
It already beats the nexus in terms of hardware and just about everything else... the nexus just has 4G of which isn't even useful to 99% of the world (no ssrsly). Oh and ICS... which isn't that big of a deal at all.
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Shawn_230 said:
Yup, if you're the type of person that gets their enjoyment out of being a show off.
Normal people supposedly bought the SGS2 because it fit their needs, how would the Galaxy Nexus make the Galaxy S2 less worthwhile of you? Unless of course, your goal is to have the latest and greatest (what???), in which you should just wait and see which will be better and if the Nexus is better, pay some money and switch.
And I have to laugh at all the SGS2 owners in here defiantly saying the Galaxy Nexus has a poorer screen... sure the Nexus has a PenTile arrangement which on the face of it is a disappointment, but I'd personally wait until I see a Galaxy Nexus in person before passing judgement.
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Do you know anything about either phones, let alone spelling? If you put an 'a' in definitely then you're definitely an a-hole.
P.S. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4219
The SGS2 beats the Nexus in almost everything... :/
Nexus:
No MicroSD
Only 5MP Camera
Only 1.3MP Secondary Camera
No Radio (this is a big letdown to some)
Half as much 'quoted' talk time when compared to the SGS2.
No Gorilla Glass????
Overpriced (given the above)
SGS2:
No 4G
No ICS (Yet)
Hardly an 'Upgrade' from the SGS2.. ICS isn't that much better than Gingerbread. On top of that who really needs 4G?
But hey, don't take it from me, I don't know crap all about the Nexus. Though I do know my own SGS2 inside out.
I agree with 'soraxd' the SGS3 is going to tear the newest iPhone (lol what a joke) to shreds and absolutely squash any hopes of any manufacturer getting even close.
Believe it lol!
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Found this lol:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/mzlcg/sgs2_ics_port_not_happening_until_samsung/
King Shady said:
+1 to you sir. Remember, most of the people here are Apple-haters and absolute GSII fanboys! Myself, I love my GSII and my iPhone 4S, and I can't wait to get a Galaxy Nexus!
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I wish I could have as many phones as you.. What do you even need all 3 phones for

HTC ONE X camera not all that great

I know everybody wants to switch to a new phone, and one of the reasons is the newest htc camera is so much better than anything else...or is it? Maybe waiting one more generation is the way to go.....http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php
This thread says otherwise
well of course it does, they all own the phone and they are coming from older phones. Fact is no one in the 1000 people sampled could pick out the htc photos. Well maybe thats a good thing?
There is alot more to a smartphone than its camera, the evo 3d is the exception because 3d is the headline feature.....point being HTC has designed a good phone (albeit with a few niggles for a selected bunch of models), The camera is the cherry on the cake, now people can decide if they want the whole experience i.e. the cake, or just the cherry i.e. the standout feature from the proverbial or literal sh**
woody296 said:
I know everybody wants to switch to a new phone, and one of the reasons is the newest htc camera is so much better than anything else...or is it? Maybe waiting one more generation is the way to go.....http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php
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Is the camera better than my phone? By miles. Am I looking to get the LTE based on its camera? Not at all.
ace9988 said:
There is alot more to a smartphone than its camera, the evo 3d is the exception because 3d is the headline feature.....point being HTC has designed a good phone (albeit with a few niggles for a selected bunch of models), The camera is the cherry on the cake, now people can decide if they want the whole experience i.e. the cake, or just the cherry i.e. the standout feature from the proverbial or literal sh**
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That might not be true, actually cell phones are so much alike that one phone having a much better camera than the others might turn out to be it's biggest feature. At any given moment there might be almost as many people taking pictures with a cell phone as there are making a call, heck a lot of people just text or use it for web surfing.
I think the real question here is, what camera would meet YOUR standards? There are a lot of people out there who say the camera is raising the bar, and obviously, you're a skeptic. Am I right?
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I think the real question here is, what camera would meet YOUR standards? There are a lot of people out there who say the camera is raising the bar, and obviously, you're a skeptic. Am I right?
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I would love to have the lte\one x camera on my evo3d, i'm not that great at taking pictures and would like to get better. I just like to read and found the camera comparison to be quite interesting. Maybe I should have said camera great but not the greatest? Let me add one thing, is there anyone who wouldn't want this camera on their next phone? And i mean camera only. That would be raising the bar by a huge amount.
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That might not be true, actually cell phones are so much alike that one phone having a much better camera than the others might turn out to be it's biggest feature. At any given moment there might be almost as many people taking pictures with a cell phone as there are making a call, heck a lot of people just text or use it for web surfing.
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Thats not exactly what I mean.... You don't buy the phone JUST based on the camera alone... Its the whole package.... The one x camera is great, but in these tests all the settings have to be equal and thats a user oriented thing as to how each individuals perception of a good quality image is, there are too many variables.
IMO HTCs camera settings have never been the best straight out the box... My desire hd had that issue and the same with the evo 3d, but then its to my taste and everyone's is different, unless the image is just **** lol
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S3 Cam > One X, LTEvo cam
Cry about it.
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S3 Cam > One X, LTEvo cam
Cry about it.
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Glad to see people comparing the One X/EVO 4G LTE with a phone that isn't even in their hand yet.
I'm okay with the camera being only slightly better than other phones, given the amazing speed at which it takes photos.
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Glad to see people comparing the One X/EVO 4G LTE with a phone that isn't even in their hand yet.
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I'm not purchasing either device,
But I've been lucky enough to play with them side by side already.
And I'm a huge HTC fan
It pains me to admit, HTC kinda lost there ass this time.
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The one x camera is what they said it would be. Awesome for a smartphone! Well atleast my evo lte cam is,which I'm pretty sure it's the same. Mind you I'm 26 year's old and have a busy nightlife,this camera captures it ALL!
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I'm not purchasing either device,
But I've been lucky enough to play with them side by side already.
And I'm a huge HTC fan
It pains me to admit, HTC kinda lost there ass this time.
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But, you do realize that the One Series and the EVO 4G LTE were both completed by design and announced before official rumors of the S3 was complete. So, of course Samsung would 1up the competition. It's just like if a new phone is announced later in the year, it's obviously gonna have better specs than one that was designed before.
And HTC definitely didn't lose their ass with this new phone (Especially the EVO 4G LTE). The One series is a step in the right direction for the company. No more quantity over quality. They're taking things down the right road this time.
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But, you do realize that the One Series and the EVO 4G LTE were both completed by design and announced before official rumors of the S3 was complete. So, of course Samsung would 1up the competition. It's just like if a new phone is announced later in the year, it's obviously gonna have better specs than one that was designed before.
And HTC definitely didn't lose their ass with this new phone (Especially the EVO 4G LTE). The One series is a step in the right direction for the company. No more quantity over quality. They're taking things down the right road this time.
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What I meant by lost their ass is by pitching a huge marketing campaign based on the power of their new cameras and than they get beat out.
I stumbled on this post searching for something. What a dumb post. Just delete his whole thread. I myself am.dumber for reading it. Camera quality is subjective when quality is this good. No one is using a phone to take aerial photos of property to show off. HTC has a hit. S3 is good but another same looking samsung phone. What innovation there. I am a big Samsung fan but S3 is a disappointment on looks and design for its exterior.
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I stumbled on this post searching for something. What a dumb post. Just delete his whole thread. I myself am.dumber for reading it. Camera quality is subjective when quality is this good. No one is using a phone to take aerial photos of property to show off. HTC has a hit. S3 is good but another same looking samsung phone. What innovation there. I am a big Samsung fan but S3 is a disappointment on looks and design for its exterior.
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Sorry you didn't like the article, i thought it was interesting to see a phone have a camera that good and somewhat surprised to see the htc phone rated that low. The phone was a hit at the last show because of the camera, they rated it a top 5 show item. I would think these people are more knowledgeable in the phone technology area, they certainly are smarter than mehttp://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/nokia-808-pureview-united-states/ I did also see that engadget has their review up for the S3 and they say the S3 camera, except for a faster shutter, is not much better than the S2. They also say the camera is about the same as the htc camera. So while that makes the cameras both pretty good I guess they are not a huge leap forward.http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-shootout-atandt-vs-sprint/
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What I meant by lost their ass is by pitching a huge marketing campaign based on the power of their new cameras and than they get beat out.
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Have a look at the quality in this picture I took, and explain how this can get beat out.
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Nice picture, no doubt, but if htc took the time to install a 3d camera on last years flagship phone, maybe a year from now they could install something similar to the nokia's camera and have something that is actually a "huge" improvement. We are now shown the technology is there and is being used and mass produced.

Considering Upgrading...

AT&T has two phones (maybe three) I am interested in. One of them is the Optimus G.
In reviews on Cnet it mentioned the not-so-great camera and short battery life.
My Infuse 4G doesn't last more than 7 hours of mostly audio playback (30-35%) when it was new. I am going to keep this phone now that its unlocked (got the code from AT&T) and my friend is using my original G1, which is also unlocked.
Has the battery life improved with any updates and if not what is your preferred battery app?
Also has the camera improved with updates or is there a rom with improvements?
I do plan on doing some video and having another HD camera will give me lots of options.
I wanted a Note, but I can't afford to pay more than $100 for a phone and have it threaten my other activities.
Thanks
djfourmoney said:
AT&T has two phones (maybe three) I am interested in. One of them is the Optimus G.
In reviews on Cnet it mentioned the not-so-great camera and short battery life.
My Infuse 4G doesn't last more than 7 hours of mostly audio playback (30-35%) when it was new. I am going to keep this phone now that its unlocked (got the code from AT&T) and my friend is using my original G1, which is also unlocked.
Has the battery life improved with any updates and if not what is your preferred battery app?
Also has the camera improved with updates or is there a rom with improvements?
I do plan on doing some video and having another HD camera will give me lots of options.
I wanted a Note, but I can't afford to pay more than $100 for a phone and have it threaten my other activities.
Thanks
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Battery life is great with jelly bean, easily lasts me 12-16hrs on a full charge, camera is great too.
Trust me for the price it can't be beat.
Quad core, 2gb ram, and it's a high quality made device, it's solid, using glass and other materials, i got rid of my note 2 and went to this, I'm beyond impressed. Do the price ab the bang for your buck you get, it can't be beat
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Also there are camera mods in the dev section that claim to make it better, but honestly it's great for me.
Here a couple pics I just snapped., they might be resized as I used Tapatalk to upload them.
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Here's a direct link, no resizing, it's obvious that the app or the host downgrades or resizes, so check the last picture and the difference or load the last link, just add the H to it and see the clarity vs the app uploaded ones, what are the other phones your interested in?
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Thanks, great looking pictures! Yeah sometimes reviews are early in the development cycle and the phones don't meet expectations.
I wonder if I can get the G for $49, I read that's for new customers only though.
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Thanks, great looking pictures! Yeah sometimes reviews are early in the development cycle and the phones don't meet expectations.
I wonder if I can get the G for $49, I read that's for new customers only though.
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What other phone are you considering?
I'm sure you can, hell I got my note 2 back in early March for 199 and they had the og for 49 then.
So you should have no issues, check amazon wireless, best buy and others, you might be able to get it for less then 50,
About reviews, also remember these phones launched with ics, which is also why I didn't get it from att and opted for the note 2, ics at launch was a big let down ab one of the reasons people have a sour opinion about LG, i did as well, along with there failure to update devices and support then I almost passed on this optimus g, but paid 160 on Craigslist for it and couldn't pass it up, especially once I found out the jelly bean update was available
When it launched I was with sprint ab played with it in store ab thought, wow this is a really fast device
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djfourmoney said:
AT&T has two phones (maybe three) I am interested in. One of them is the Optimus G.
In reviews on Cnet it mentioned the not-so-great camera and short battery life.
My Infuse 4G doesn't last more than 7 hours of mostly audio playback (30-35%) when it was new. I am going to keep this phone now that its unlocked (got the code from AT&T) and my friend is using my original G1, which is also unlocked.
Has the battery life improved with any updates and if not what is your preferred battery app?
Also has the camera improved with updates or is there a rom with improvements?
I do plan on doing some video and having another HD camera will give me lots of options.
I wanted a Note, but I can't afford to pay more than $100 for a phone and have it threaten my other activities.
Thanks
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I had a infuse and I can tell you from having that phone and the optimus g it's like night and day. The optimus g is the best phone out right now for the money in my opinion. The battery life is phenomenal. You would not be disappointed at all.
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The best camera I've ever owned was the s3, the lg takes some great pictures but it takes some horrible pictures also. The s2 had a great camera also. Im assuming the s4 has a better one. The battery life on the phone is great...... But for how long. Maybe after a year of use it will get ruined and you won't be able to replace it. The S4 would be my pick since it looks like you keep your phones for a while. I got this phone because i replace my phones every 6 months .... Great phone but not sure it will last you 2 year with great battery
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The best camera I've ever owned was the s3, the lg takes some great pictures but it takes some horrible pictures also. The s2 had a great camera also. Im assuming the s4 has a better one. The battery life on the phone is great...... But for how long. Maybe after a year of use it will get ruined and you won't be able to replace it. The S4 would be my pick since it looks like you keep your phones for a while. I got this phone because i replace my phones every 6 months .... Great phone but not sure it will last you 2 year with great battery
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I'd pass on the s4, besides he says he can't spend more than 100 on a phone, so that removes it from the availability list.
Hearing lots of issues with the s4 ,over heating, sluggishness, etc.
I'd wait until the kinks were worked out.
And trust me after handling the Optimus g, my note 2 feels cheap, it creeks, the plastic is cheap, the Optimus g is very well made and solid.
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Lgog is awesome. Only things I do not like are it's not durable, and the camera takes garbage photos in low light. It's fine in direct sunlight, not so much anywhere else.
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Thanks foe the input. Radio Shack has the G for $49, I will handle the phone and see how it feels. The other phones are.
Atrix for use with the laptop dock when I travel and don't need the power of my quad core laptop.
Nokia Lumia 920 or HTC Windows 8x
Main reason for the Windows phones is for the Home Server app. I would love to be able to access the files and upload to my server, I use Windows Home Server 2011.
I like the G because its a powerful phone and the screen is bigger. I don't mind reading on my Infuse and I like the Note(s) because they are a nice compromise over a tablet.
The G is not on the bleeding edge and somewhat disappointing reviews have lead to discount pricing. I got the Infuse for $60 @ Best Buy in mid 2010.
I keep the hardware because it can still be used and its more functional a regular point-n-shoot camera. I plan on goinh lots of video and selling my unused stuff on CL, Ebay and Amazon with the apps available.
I am keeping the price down because I like to travel and don't wanna work any harder than I do. No need to be on the bleeding edge for most things.
Thanks
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I've had my LGOG now for 3 months, I don't like the camera or the heating issues, and theres now way it will get 4.2.2 knowing how ATT is, I'm now getting a HTC One.
DeathmonkeyGTX said:
Lgog is awesome. Only things I do not like are it's not durable, and the camera takes garbage photos in low light. It's fine in direct sunlight, not so much anywhere else.
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I have dropped my Infuse only once and it chipped top left edge of the case.
Screen has not one scratch on it.
I tend not to drop my electronics, so durability is not that much of a concern. I also take pictures in the day 98% of the time or with good indoor lighting.
Then hunt for LGOG on sale for $50 on upgrade or so.
Battery:
Seems excellent to me. I have been using it to play my stored music on average from 8-8:30AM until around 6:00 PM, taking several calls throughout the day (average 3-4) and some light internet exploring and I'll see the battery meter running around 65-70% at at the end of my day. It might go down to maybe 60-65% if I run Pandora for about an hour in between (which is usually during my lunch break when I need my dose of AC/DC-like music).
Camera:
Don't really use it much but I do believe that it has improved since I upgraded to JB. I'll need to play around with it a bit more but there is an improvement over when the phone was ICS. Unless you are a really avid photo taker (in which case you'll want a dedicated camera) it will get the job done for those candidly unexpected shots. After all, it's a phone with a camera built into it... not the other way around. My test was doing some before and after shots on my vehicle as I cleaned the paint, polished it and then waxed it up. Under ICS my still shots were somewhat blurry. With JB I can now get shots with which I can compare now. Unfortunately, I deleted these test shots so I'll have to ask you to just take my word on this.

I've haven't been this excited for years.

Well apart from when her in doors is present. Lol
I'm seriously excited to be getting this phone. My handset is between 1/3 weeks away but I'm still can't wait.
Well done Samsung.
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uktivo said:
Well apart from when her in doors is present. Lol
I'm seriously excited to be getting this phone. My handset is between 1/3 weeks away but I'm still can't wait.
Well done Samsung.
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Well, just to increase your excitement a little further.
I have owned just about all the flagship phones over the last 3 years. HTC one M7, 8 & 9. Galaxy note 2 & 4. Galaxy S3 & 4. Nexus 4, 5 &6. iPhone 6 & 6+. (Seriously). Alot I know.
Have never found one that i thought truely had everything. HTC's (great speakers, smooth rom, but rubbish camera. Samsung Notes and Galaxy's (Good cameras, cheap build, laggy software). Nexus devices (fast smooth OS, poor cameras and build). iPhones (stable smooth OS, good camera, locked down OS, boring).
But, the S6 edge is absolutely fantastic. The build is brilliant and beautiful, the camera is absolutely excellent and the phone is blazing fast (ignoring touchwiz redraw). I really do think that this phone is a game changer and the best device released in the last 3-4 years hands down.
So please rest assured that i think you will find that this phone is very much worth the wait. (plus there might be some custom development by the time you receive the device).
Hope you enjoy
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So please rest assured that i think you will find that this phone is very much worth the wait. (plus there might be some custom development by the time you receive the device).
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This is great to hear. I've been worrying about choosing between this and the M9 for ages. I've had flagships forever as well, but when I saw that this one wasn't waterproof and had no expandable memory I got very sad. But looking at this and the M9 side by side, the LED display is about 999x brighter. Coming from an S5 I can't got back on a good, bright screen.
This phone is so freaking awesome...excellent build, gorgeous display and the best camera in the market (daylight and night pics)... The speakers are loud too(sound quality is decent)… Samsung set the bar really high with this one.
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Just like Butler. I've had many phones. This one has got to be the best....ever. Balance of perfection .
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This is great to hear. I've been worrying about choosing between this and the M9 for ages. I've had flagships forever as well, but when I saw that this one wasn't waterproof and had no expandable memory I got very sad. But looking at this and the M9 side by side, the LED display is about 999x brighter. Coming from an S5 I can't got back on a good, bright screen.
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I did a side-by-side comparison in the store as well and to me it wasn't merely about brightness of the M9 and the S6, but the resolution really appeared to me to be much better for the S6. I'm an HTC loyalist and have been for years, but the screen and camera issues with the M9 caused me to jump ship back to Samsung, not to mention there is now a Samsung phone that has an attractive build. Fingerprint scanning and wireless charging were big plusses as well. I couldn't be happier with my purchase and decision.
I don't think you'll be disappointed at all. The only thing that isn't up to par with the Ones IMO is the speakers, and who listens to high end audio through their phone's speakers expecting greatness anyway. Heck, I never did that with my One.
Did anyone mention too that the cameras are amazing?!? LOL simply put, I reiterate everyone else's sentiments that this is the best phone I have owned to date and I've had many of the flagship devices. I also was always opposed to not being able to change the battery or expand the storage but I haven't had issues with the battery or storage yet! I know it isn't the "post your photo" section but this is one I took at night that is unedited. Best night shot on a cell phone I've ever owned.
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I too echo everyone's praise of this device. I've had them all also (my friends & family call me an addict). So for what it is worth, this is the best! [emoji6]
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Well, just to increase your excitement a little further.
I have owned just about all the flagship phones over the last 3 years. HTC one M7, 8 & 9. Galaxy note 2 & 4. Galaxy S3 & 4. Nexus 4, 5 &6. iPhone 6 & 6+. (Seriously). Alot I know.
Have never found one that i thought truely had everything. HTC's (great speakers, smooth rom, but rubbish camera. Samsung Notes and Galaxy's (Good cameras, cheap build, laggy software). Nexus devices (fast smooth OS, poor cameras and build). iPhones (stable smooth OS, good camera, locked down OS, boring).
But, the S6 edge is absolutely fantastic. The build is brilliant and beautiful, the camera is absolutely excellent and the phone is blazing fast (ignoring touchwiz redraw). I really do think that this phone is a game changer and the best device released in the last 3-4 years hands down.
So please rest assured that i think you will find that this phone is very much worth the wait. (plus there might be some custom development by the time you receive the device).
Hope you enjoy
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My list isn't as robust, but I've owned and used a lot of phones, and the S6 Edge is the first time since the freaking Galaxy Nexus that I can recall being genuinely excited about a new phone and not just "oh hey that looks rad I want it." From the moment I saw the S6 Edge I had a moment of "well I'm getting that." The Nexus 6, the M9, those didn't really grip me. They're fine phones, but nothing that made me almost annoyed at the knowledge that I'd be getting ANOTHER phone.
I'm not going to call the S6 Edge perfect, but I will say that it's the closest I have EVER run across. I have my quirks with TouchWiz still, it's a bit too slippery for comfort, and TBH the whole edge thing is, as yet, a bit gimmicky. The notifications are... okay, and the clock is nice, but I don't put a lot of mileage into them.
What the S6 Edge nails is just the intangibles. I haven't just wanted to PLAY with a phone since I got the iPhone 5s. Even when I have nothing to do, when I'm sitting at my laptop, I find myself looking for excuses.
dazbutler1 said:
Well, just to increase your excitement a little further.
I have owned just about all the flagship phones over the last 3 years. HTC one M7, 8 & 9. Galaxy note 2 & 4. Galaxy S3 & 4. Nexus 4, 5 &6. iPhone 6 & 6+. (Seriously). Alot I know.
Have never found one that i thought truely had everything. HTC's (great speakers, smooth rom, but rubbish camera. Samsung Notes and Galaxy's (Good cameras, cheap build, laggy software). Nexus devices (fast smooth OS, poor cameras and build). iPhones (stable smooth OS, good camera, locked down OS, boring).
But, the S6 edge is absolutely fantastic. The build is brilliant and beautiful, the camera is absolutely excellent and the phone is blazing fast (ignoring touchwiz redraw). I really do think that this phone is a game changer and the best device released in the last 3-4 years hands down.
So please rest assured that i think you will find that this phone is very much worth the wait. (plus there might be some custom development by the time you receive the device).
Hope you enjoy
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I did not go through as many phones as you but I would say a new one every 6 months and I feel the exact same way , the galaxy s6 edge is finally a smart phone with everything I want from build quality to camera .
Let's see if it can last the full 12 months lol
Do you guys think quick charge makes up for the small battery?. That's the only thing that disappoints me, the battery life
I LOVE my HTC one m8 and haven't had a Samsung since the original note, it's great to hear these comments and I can't wait to get mine! Going to be a long week whilst I'm waiting.
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Do you guys think quick charge makes up for the small battery?. That's the only thing that disappoints me, the battery life
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I have note 4 and i have to say that the fast charging is super amazing its faster on lower percentages for me which is good
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Do you guys think quick charge makes up for the small battery?. That's the only thing that disappoints me, the battery life
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I know there are a number of users who are complaining about battery life but mine is ok. Averaging around 4-5h screen time. Not great but not bad. Fast charge however is excellent. It charges extremely quickly. I have also purchased a koolpad qi charger and this works brilliantly. A bigger battery would of been nice but then that means a bigger heavier phone.
My battery life has been considerably better than my HTC One M8 was (also owned an M7). Both HTC's were good phones, but the S6 Edge is *amazing* in so many departments... loving my purchase decision.

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