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http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-dinara-revealed-tipped-for-att
Motorola just launched the Dinara this morning, but because it was shrouded as a China-only handset, no one really noticed. Well the dual-core, 720p, 13-megapixel XT928 is indeed coming to the US, we've learned, as the MB886 (and internationally as the XT885/XT920); like the MB860 Atrix and MB865 Atrix 2, Dinara is expected to land on AT&T, although possibly not as an exclusive.
This is the second time in recent memory that the company has quietly revealed the international version of a handset before launching the American variant: we saw the Droid 3 spoiled by the Milestone 3 only a few months back. However, with the RAZR having only recently begun shipping -- itself upstaging the Bionic -- it seems unlikely that Dinara will be announced in the US until at least CES.
Full specs on China's Dinara can be found in the press release, linked below. Although the XT928 is a 3G device, expect Dinara to be loaded with LTE radios by the time it arrives stateside (regardless of carrier).
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
Dolby Digital Sound
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I'm Disappointed. Completely.
kholk said:
I'm Disappointed. Completely.
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Yeah..a fatter and larger RAZR? Kind of redundant..and not appetizing.
robstunner said:
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/motorola-dinara-revealed-tipped-for-att
looks like were outdated very soon.
4.5" 720p screen
13mp camera
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Thanks. But I don't see anything really eye catching. meh
Feels like I just got butthurt
I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
kholk said:
I'm disappointed only because they could have put the 13MP camera in the RAZR, it isn't bigger. The RAZR would have costed like 80€ more than now, but well, it could have been a real highend superior device.
And it isn't a chipset limitation: OMAP4430 supports it FULLY.
I'm bored of this. As soon as replacements for Dinara will be out, I'll buy its replacement 13MP camera, mount it in the RAZR and port its driver, other than write a guide on how to mount that $%£$%£ camera in it.
And obviously I hope its pinout will be compatible/adaptable on our RAZR.
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I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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This.
If the Dinara is, like is rumored, an LCD screen and a sub-par camera (if the sensor sucks, 13MP might actually be a downgrade since it will make for noisy shots), I would consider it a downgrade from the RAZR. Also, Verizon > AT&T (in my area, and most others; YMMV).
Nothing to see, here. The RAZR will be outclassed soon enough, but not by this.
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I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
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So? Just because a new Nexus comes only once a year doesn't mean that they're not outdated quickly. The Nexus S came out right before the emergence of dual-core headsets and was literally outdated within weeks and even the Galaxy Nexus will be replaced soon enough; quad-core devices are literally only months away at this point.
Options are the beauty of this platform.
Want incremental, yearly updates? Go get an iPhone, simple as that.
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Yea, that will never happen again (iPhone). I enjoy my razr, and if that post above LCD screen in the dinara is correct, I also say FAIL. I couldn't find any information on the specifics on the Motorola press release.
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I dont care if they put 33mp camera inside it unless the sensor is great. I would prefer my Zn5's 5mp kodak sensor over anything.
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zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
Where's the Kevlar, if it ain't stoppin bullets I don't want it.
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zn5 dosn't have kodak sensor
only kodak there is function for image enhancement, nothing more...
but, I surely would love sensor from XT720 + xenon flash on some new moto phone
(xt720 has a much better image quality than zn5)
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That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
Honestly, that looks like a RAZR had sex with a Droid X. I appreciate the camera and the screen, but their design is moving backwards now..
And Moto is trying desperately to stay on top, just like everyone else. Android is a quickly-evolving platform, there's always something new around the corner to jam into a device. And when potential buyers are looking for a phone, they always want the newest technology. While it might seem like a bad decision to keep throwing phones out every other week that make yours look like crap, in order to hold their own, they kindof have to. That's why you don't see them cranking out seven tablets every week, tablets are more like "okay well as long as we have the newest processor and a decent GPU we're pretty well off let's check back in 4 months"
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That's your opinion. I've used both phones and Zn5 is hands down winner against the XT720 when it comes to image quality. XT720 was also good but it wasn't near nowhere to zn5 !
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I have both phones, and XT has so much better color reproduction, sharpness and noise reduction
maybe I have some old firmware on ZN5, but that's for some another thread..
ICS might actually improve the picture quality. There may be mods as well that make things better. You gotta think what's more important, the phone as a whole or the camera.
robstunner said:
I feel like im troll posting, but this is the kinda thing that pulls me towards the Nexus line of phones. The atrix lasted 4 months before it was bested on the same carrier, droid 4 is coming out soon and the bionic came out 2 months ago. HTC does the same thing. Diarrhea of phone productions.
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Mmm HTC hasn't been TOO bad about pushing out devices, and even then the specs are either equal, lesser, or slightly better. Moto just seems to be pushing devices out left and right. It is pretty disappointing to drop $300 + on a device and then a few weeks later you see something with higher specs come out. The HD screen vs qHD does make a fairly decent difference from what I've noticed so far. Tbh the upcoming Nexus phone isn't anything revolutionary or spectacular except for ICS. Android phones are just coming out too fast and hopefully it slows down a bit.
damn, i can't wait for this phone! looks like a mean upgrade from my current one.
http://gadgetsteria.com/2011/12/01/flog-that-horse-motorola-droid-razr-max-revealed-in-exif-data/
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My Tmo phone is the G1 which i currently have. I loved the phone, rooted and everything but I have a chance to get the Vibrant. I am not sure if i should go ahead and get the Vibrant, or wait for the G2 especially after annoucning the +hspa on it. What would you guys choose if you had this choice(which some of you probably do)
DaSmittyman said:
My Tmo phone is the G1 which i currently have. I loved the phone, rooted and everything but I have a chance to get the Vibrant. I am not sure if i should go ahead and get the Vibrant, or wait for the G2 especially after annoucning the +hspa on it. What would you guys choose if you had this choice(which some of you probably do)
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Cyanogen himself is getting the G2....that will tell you everything you need to know about how dev work will go with it
Personally? I hate 3.7" screens and it's a dealbreaker for me
4's just about perfect, 4.3 would be even better but don't want the EVO or DroidX
When is the G2 supposed to come out?
I would go with the G2. Stock Android you can't go wrong!!!!
sigeltek said:
When is the G2 supposed to come out?
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http://www.tmonews.com/2010/08/t-mo...etter-known-as-t-mobile-g2-on-september-29th/
I was looking at it too, since I loved my G1, but I read that it was going to be marketed towards more mainstream users, which to me means it will be cheaper and probably have lower specs. I might be wrong and the specs aren't out yet, so I guess we'll see.
Hard decision.
I see the winner in these categories as follows...
Physical keyboard: G2
Larger screen: Vibrant
Manufacturer: G2
Physical layout: G2
Weight: Vibrant
For me, not wanting to give up my G1's keyboard was a major hangup. But honestly, Swype is so good that I have accepted no keyboard.
As far as development and support, HTC phones are unsurpassed in the Android world.
Screen size for me is the single biggest, and why I opted to get a Vibrant instead of waiting for the G2.
However, I REALLY miss the physical buttons on the G1. They beat capacitive buttons all to pieces.
Physical keyboard immediately means, I won't get it.
ytj87 said:
For me, not wanting to give up my G1's keyboard was a major hangup. But honestly, Swype is so good that I have accepted no keyboard.
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Agreed. Although now, in most situations, I use the Android keyboard
and the voice input. The voice recognition is actually pretty darn good.
For all intensive purposes, I only miss the physical keyboard about 3 seconds per week.
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As far as development and support, HTC phones are unsurpassed in the Android world.
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I have gone with Samsung more often than not, but my G1 was my first
HTC phone. Samsung never disappointed me in the past, and didn't
disappoint me with the Vibrant.
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Screen size for me is the single biggest, and why I opted to get a Vibrant instead of waiting for the G2.
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Before the Vibrant, I would have said "whatever" to the screen size diff,
but after having this screen, OMG, my G1 looks tiny.
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However, I REALLY miss the physical buttons on the G1. They beat capacitive buttons all to pieces.
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I only miss the trackball!!!!! Trying to correct things and move around inside
text was a breeze with that thing. But, I have no issues with the Vibrant's "buttons".
i was thinking that i should sell my vibrant and try to get the g2 but after lookin at the specs it was a big step down from the vibrant.
G2 vibrant
processor: 1ghz snapdragon vs 1ghz hummingbird
screen: 3.7" OLED screen vs. 4.0" SAMOLED
there's some other features that weren't quite up to par against the vibrant. the only reasons i like the g2 is its getting the HSPA+ network and has a track ball pad thing. the only thing wrong with the vibrant right now is it doesn't have a cyanogen rom on it to make it godly.
my fear said:
i was thinking that i should sell my vibrant and try to get the g2 but after lookin at the specs it was a big step down from the vibrant.
G2 vibrant
processor: 1ghz snapdragon vs 1ghz hummingbird
screen: 3.7" OLED screen vs. 4.0" SAMOLED
there's some other features that weren't quite up to par against the vibrant. the only reasons i like the g2 is its getting the HSPA+ network and has a track ball pad thing. the only thing wrong with the vibrant right now is it doesn't have a cyanogen rom on it to make it godly.
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CM6 is in the works (don't ask when) and the G2 isn't using a Snapdragon its using:
So what exactly does the MSM7230 have to offer? We initially labeled it as a budget-Snapdragon since Qualcomm’s press release said it was destined for “mainstream smartphones”, but now it looks like it will offer about the same performance as Samsung’s Hummingbird chip or TI’s OMAP3630.
Based on all the info we can gather the MSM7230 is a 45nm system-on-chip which contains a similar Scorpion CPU as the previous Snapdragon (QSD8x50) matched with an Adreno 205 GPU. The new Adreno 205 offers about 4x the graphics performance of the previous Snapdragon (Adreno 200), which is around the equivalent of a PowerVR SGX535. Support for HSPA+ 14.4 Mbps and HDMI out are other notable features.
The Adreno 205 GPU is also believed to be in the dual-core Qualcomm QSD8672, which first appeared in the HTC Glacier benchmarks that everyone went crazy over. It should offer plenty of power to run all the Gameloft HD titles, but we still expect the GPU inside Samsung’s Hummingbird is a tad faster.
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and to the trackball: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458 search for trackball
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Personally I'm not impressed with G2's specs at all. But I know there are many people out there who won't even consider a smartphone without a physical keyboard. I think that's what G2 is targeting at.
If physical keyboard is not a must-have for you, I don't see why you should pick G2 over Vibrant. (you won't get the HSPA+ speed most of the time)
HTC will lose here.
Over the last couple of months a few huge features have come to be standard for any respectable smartphone, and just the fact that the G2 won't have an excellent display is a big enough reason in itself that it will not sell.
It doesn't have any serious ups over the vibrant besides the HSPA+ capability (which we all know is virtually useless at the end of the day), and when you walk into a store, just comparing the displays can be a deal breaker.
They really should have included some things that the vibrant doesn't have... but they didn't.
I'm keeping my Vibrant
nearblack said:
HTC will lose here.
Over the last couple of months a few huge features have come to be standard for any respectable smartphone, and just the fact that the G2 won't have an excellent display is a big enough reason in itself that it will not sell.
It doesn't have any serious ups over the vibrant besides the HSPA+ capability (which we all know is virtually useless at the end of the day), and when you walk into a store, just comparing the displays can be a deal breaker.
They really should have included some things that the vibrant doesn't have... but they didn't.
I'm keeping my Vibrant
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I completely agree. This is poor timing for the G2 to be released with the specs it currently has. With the 3rd Gen Snapdragons supporting 1200 x 800 displays I'm incredibly disappointed it will only have 800 x 480 (same as our vibrant but still not an upgrade)
Also with gingerbread expected to be released anywhere from October to December (wide range I know) why not wait and have it release as the 1st phone with the new UI? Wouldnt that really make it the 2nd generation google phone?
I was expecting more HTC, but maybe after the G2 released we will start hearing some specs on some other awesome new phone scheduled to release in late november/early december.
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Personally I'm not impressed with G2's specs at all. But I know there are many people out there who won't even consider a smartphone without a physical keyboard. I think that's what G2 is targeting at.
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I was one of those people. Fortunately my wife wasn't, so I had a chance to try Swype... and I bought myself a Vibrant a few days later.
As someone who has used both phones I would say the Vibrant is still better. Both phones are extremely nice but I don't care for hardware keyboards anymore. The G2 feels just as fast as the Vibrant though since its stock 2.2. The biggest let down is the screen, I can never go back to an LCD screen after that Super AMOLED beauty.
I think at this point it comes down to whether you want the hardware keyboard or not. That is going to be the deciding factor.
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As someone who has used both phones I would say the Vibrant is still better. Both phones are extremely nice but I don't care for hardware keyboards anymore. The G2 feels just as fast as the Vibrant though since its stock 2.2. The biggest let down is the screen, I can never go back to an LCD screen after that Super AMOLED beauty.
I think at this point it comes down to whether you want the hardware keyboard or not. That is going to be the deciding factor.
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I completely agree with the screen and all that. But I disagree with the hardware keyboard is the point "it comes down..." simply because the G2 is running Stock Android. If the G2 gets fast updates kind of like how the Nexus One got 2.2 so early, then that would be another factor (vs. TouchWiz). In addition, Cyanogen himself said that he was getting the G2
@grantscurrie i'm buying a G2 the day it comes out, FWIW. 1:08 PM Aug 27th via web in reply to grantscurrie Retweeted by 4 people
http://twitter.com/cyanogen/status/22278518682
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So people and certain devs might go towards his direction if they don't have a Nexus One themselves (or upgrading from a N1) just simply because Cyanogen would be getting one and that he would most likely be putting his #1 priority as the G2 (or Nexus One.. Note: this is my pure speculation).
The Galaxy S is definitely better on terms of hardware without a doubt. With a strong developing community to support the phone, it should pretty much fly on its own.
Edit: People have the option to go with the Epic 4G for their physical keyboard. It's still a Galaxy S phone!
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Edit: People have the option to go with the Epic 4G for their physical keyboard. It's still a Galaxy S phone!
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Should be able to use it on TMO without a problem, too. Unlock codes included in the phone like all SGS phones.
nick_karstedt said:
Should be able to use it on TMO without a problem, too. Unlock codes included in the phone like all SGS phones.
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Umm did you forget the sarcasm identifier? The Epic is a cdma phone on sprint. How would you manage to use that on TMO with no problem? You could just as easily get a Droid X and unlock it to TMO...............
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Should be able to use it on TMO without a problem, too. Unlock codes included in the phone like all SGS phones.
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ROFL
he better have forgotten the sarcasm part...OR ELSE
Granted, the writer is using an unlocked version of the Galaxy Nexus, so there aren't the network issues we've all come to know & hate, he basically says the phone itself is lacking, and ICS is GREAT! Can't wait til our "premium" phone gets it!
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=...as-pulse+%28Android+Atlas+-+CNET+for+Pulse%29
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The only real low points on the hardware was the camera, and the build quality. The camera on the RAZR is nothing to write home about.. and I've never had an issue with Samsung build quality before...it's just uses a lot of plastic.
To me the more plastic, the less quality. It's a direct relationship as far as quality 'feel' goes.
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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gogreenbay07 said:
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
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I would never say one camera is better than another based off megapixels...it's a meaningless bullet point spec. That said...it looks like it may simply not be that great of a camera based off the OTHER more important specs. Looks like it's the same module as seen in the Galaxy/Nexus S...which was "okay" but not nearly on the same level as the SGS II, or the newer iphones.
I would like some help,
Is the phone heat going up to 120F/49C some thing this phone can take or Is that bad.
P.S My S2 never has gone to more than 113F.
IP IHI II IL said:
All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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Actual space is 27.3g free, of which apps and data share this same space. As far as tunes in the cloud, MUCH better on battery life to play local on device. Not to mention if in area with weak or no coverage.
as far as camera is concerned on our devices, the sensor is fine, the problem I think has to do with the software and compression.
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I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
Actually I once thought that I'll get a Galaxy Nexus, but as soon as I knew that there's no 32GB version available here, I just go for the razr...
robstunner said:
I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
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Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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Where did you hear that?
4ktvs said:
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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I call bull.
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Grims said:
Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
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Kinda feel the same way, as long as the galaxy nexus comes out before Xmas day as that's my last returnable day.
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I'm feeling the same way. I love the feel of the phone but there are teo major faults that have me thinking I should return it.
The battery is dire. It's nearly out of charge and it is only six hours since it was at 100%.
The wifi reception is beyond bad. I can see six or seven networks with my three year old HTC Hero whereas I only just manage to connect to my own network.
It's a simply beautiful phone but I need it to last a full day and be able to switch to different networks as I move around.
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Hi
I do agree, wi-fi is a little bit weaker on this one as on my desire before, but could connect to all my networks. Real test will happen on monday for wi-fi at the airport, as this was weak on desire also.
Regarding battery life, I really cannot complain, played with the phone on wi-fi for hours ( browsing). From my point of view the battery life is ok.
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I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
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For those of us who want a solidly built, robust and quality device the RAZR stomps all over the Nexus from the inside out. I agree that the specs of the Nexus come out ahead and yes it certainly is the more "playful" device for us but that doesn't really matter when it's built like a Samsung. No offence to Samsung but this Moto feels like quality and is quality and sometimes having a stronger foundation is more beneficial in the long run.
Who else goes through the trouble of EMI protection like Moto.
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Dude, research before you said that more EMI shields is a better thing. The reason they need that many is because they had to put every chip on the same side of the PCB. With chips on different side they can use the PCB ground plane as EMI shield so you would see less.
It says that same with original razr just come with longer battery life.
This is just absolutely sucking way of making your customers feel so stupid that I thought the razr in my hand is inferior model
Com'on, seriously? ?? Why android users have to feel stupid 2 months after they purchased their phone???
Why apple users feel great and thinks that they bought a great phone that will at least last for a year in terms of price?
Rants won't help and I am a big android believer
And manufactures can you switch your marketing plan to make your customers feels great and proud after their purchase, not feel like a dumb ass and cheated by boot loader bs? ??
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It says that same with original razr just come with longer battery life.
This is just absolutely sucking way of making your customers feel so stupid that I thought the razr in my hand is inferior model
Com'on, seriously? ?? Why android users have to feel stupid 2 months after they purchased their phone???
Why apple users feel great and thinks that they bought a great phone that will at least last for a year in terms of price?
Rants won't help and I am a big android believer
And manufactures can you switch your marketing plan to make your customers feels great and proud after their purchase, not feel like a dumb ass and cheated by boot loader bs? ??
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Agreed, this is my first and last Motorola purchase.
So what? Who cares? Its just a Razr with a bigger battery. Why should that make you feel any different about your phone. If you loved your phone yesterday, why wouldn't you still love it today?
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So what? Who cares? Its just a Razr with a bigger battery. Why should that make you feel any different about your phone. If you loved your phone yesterday, why wouldn't you still love it today?
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Pretty much.
I'm pretty sure the Maxx has a 720p screen and a 13 MP camera also.
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Don't cry over a phone that isn't even out yet.
It's a new year, and guess what? New phones are coming out that will have new technology that is harder, better, faster, stronger... Get over it.
A phone that comes out in 2012 that is better than the Razr is also going to better than the iPhone. Marketing is meant to push the public to purchase. If it makes you feel bad you don't have as big of a smile as the actors in the commercials, flip to another station.
I love my Razr with a huge smile, and will keep loving it until I finally upgrade.
It's thicker...8.9mm vs 7.1mm. I like the RAZR for how thin it is and don't have a problem with battery life. No 720p HD screen or 13MP camera. No thanks.
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It's thicker...8.9mm vs 7.1mm. I like the RAZR for how thin it is and don't have a problem with battery life. No 720p HD screen or 13MP camera. No thanks.
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totally agree..a less slim Razr is not a Razr!
Personally, I'm stoked with the battery life of my razr. It seems to last much longer than I was expecting... easily 12 hours pretty heavy use on 3g. Not too sure what the fuss is all about?
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Lol. That i felt when i had the vibrant...then 5 months later vibrant 4g. The reason i felt cheated at the time because of the gps fix. Front facing camera and hspa+ data. With the razr...i dont feel that resentment. I totally love this thing and now that i have countless data. It makes it all worth better. Hell the new xoom is coming out too. But i love my xoom still and think its much a better product than the xyboard.
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jiwengang said:
It says that same with original razr just come with longer battery life.
This is just absolutely sucking way of making your customers feel so stupid that I thought the razr in my hand is inferior model
Com'on, seriously??? Why android users have to feel stupid 2 months after they purchased their phone???
Why apple users feel great and thinks that they bought a great phone that will at least last for a year in terms of price?
Rants won't help and I am a big android believer
And manufactures can you switch your marketing plan to make your customers feels great and proud after their purchase, not feel like a dumb ass and cheated by boot loader bs???
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I ended up going with the iPhone for this very reason.
I like my phone to keep its high Craigslist value for at least a year... but with Android your phone is old news after 2 months and price drops like crazy so you feel like an idiot for being an early adopter.
Of course you'll have those that try to convince themselves saying "I'm not mad. Nope. Nope. Nope.", but happiness is a relative thing for me. If they come out with a Droid Razr for $600 contract free and then next month they come out with an even better one that drops the resale value of mine by $200 a mere month later then I'm going to be pissed off
Only other phone I might consider would be the Nexus due to being guaranteed the top spot of its kind for a year...
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It's thicker...8.9mm vs 7.1mm. I like the RAZR for how thin it is and don't have a problem with battery life. No 720p HD screen or 13MP camera. No thanks.
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Personally, I'm stoked with the battery life of my razr. It seems to last much longer than I was expecting... easily 12 hours pretty heavy use on 3g. Not too sure what the fuss is all about?
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and this +1
I must admit that I am not a holy man. I have my small sinner thought that I wish my 299.99USD plus 2yr contract Razr can holds stable retail value as a 'status' and a kind of recognition to its own greatness. However,it won't be long before it is put in dust with other free phones,even after only a few month of its launch.
How about add more features to a phone,make it more well programmed and prepared and take a year to have a great new release??? Not to add a bit more battery power and call it a new release? Folks, use some common sense.
When you buy a car you know new car will drop 20% resale value the moment you turn ignition on but you still buy it, I got it. That is for the happiness of owning a new car.
But what if a fancy new car,dropping its value buy 20% every 2month ???
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I'm pretty sure the Maxx has a 720p screen and a 13 MP camera also.
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't That'll be the RAZR 2, available in February, with the RAZR 3 hot the heels in May
The RAZR MAXX is 8.9mm thick vs the RAZR's 7.1mm. The battery however is a whopping 3300mAH, vs the 1800 in the original RAZR.
For you LTE guys in the states, it's probably the phone they should have released first, for the GSM owners, I'm not sure there is much attraction - the MAXX is going to weigh a bit more than the RAZR and one of the attractions for me is how easily I can slip it into my jeans or jacket pocket without looking like I have a prosthetic implant!
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So what? Who cares? Its just a Razr with a bigger battery. Why should that make you feel any different about your phone. If you loved your phone yesterday, why wouldn't you still love it today?
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+1...honestly its the nature of the beast. Smartphones are like computers when newer models come out a couple of months later. I love my Razr and font regret my purchase and I know I'll love it till I upgrade to a newer phone in 19 months from now.
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If it mattered that much nobody would be buying any phones at all as everyone would be waiting for the best/next model in a permanent and infinite loop of desperation ...
Love my Razr as it is. And as much as I didn't want to go for a new contract with SFR here in France, selling me phone for 19€ is pretty much unbeatable so I caved.
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totally agree..a less slim Razr is not a Razr!
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Nicely said! But I just wonder when will the price drop of the RaZr internationally?
Can't wait to grab one!!!
Ahem....http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TvkIZw4xekA#!
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I know everybody wants to switch to a new phone, and one of the reasons is the newest htc camera is so much better than anything else...or is it? Maybe waiting one more generation is the way to go.....http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php
This thread says otherwise
well of course it does, they all own the phone and they are coming from older phones. Fact is no one in the 1000 people sampled could pick out the htc photos. Well maybe thats a good thing?
There is alot more to a smartphone than its camera, the evo 3d is the exception because 3d is the headline feature.....point being HTC has designed a good phone (albeit with a few niggles for a selected bunch of models), The camera is the cherry on the cake, now people can decide if they want the whole experience i.e. the cake, or just the cherry i.e. the standout feature from the proverbial or literal sh**
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I know everybody wants to switch to a new phone, and one of the reasons is the newest htc camera is so much better than anything else...or is it? Maybe waiting one more generation is the way to go.....http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php
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Is the camera better than my phone? By miles. Am I looking to get the LTE based on its camera? Not at all.
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There is alot more to a smartphone than its camera, the evo 3d is the exception because 3d is the headline feature.....point being HTC has designed a good phone (albeit with a few niggles for a selected bunch of models), The camera is the cherry on the cake, now people can decide if they want the whole experience i.e. the cake, or just the cherry i.e. the standout feature from the proverbial or literal sh**
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That might not be true, actually cell phones are so much alike that one phone having a much better camera than the others might turn out to be it's biggest feature. At any given moment there might be almost as many people taking pictures with a cell phone as there are making a call, heck a lot of people just text or use it for web surfing.
I think the real question here is, what camera would meet YOUR standards? There are a lot of people out there who say the camera is raising the bar, and obviously, you're a skeptic. Am I right?
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I think the real question here is, what camera would meet YOUR standards? There are a lot of people out there who say the camera is raising the bar, and obviously, you're a skeptic. Am I right?
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I would love to have the lte\one x camera on my evo3d, i'm not that great at taking pictures and would like to get better. I just like to read and found the camera comparison to be quite interesting. Maybe I should have said camera great but not the greatest? Let me add one thing, is there anyone who wouldn't want this camera on their next phone? And i mean camera only. That would be raising the bar by a huge amount.
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That might not be true, actually cell phones are so much alike that one phone having a much better camera than the others might turn out to be it's biggest feature. At any given moment there might be almost as many people taking pictures with a cell phone as there are making a call, heck a lot of people just text or use it for web surfing.
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Thats not exactly what I mean.... You don't buy the phone JUST based on the camera alone... Its the whole package.... The one x camera is great, but in these tests all the settings have to be equal and thats a user oriented thing as to how each individuals perception of a good quality image is, there are too many variables.
IMO HTCs camera settings have never been the best straight out the box... My desire hd had that issue and the same with the evo 3d, but then its to my taste and everyone's is different, unless the image is just **** lol
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S3 Cam > One X, LTEvo cam
Cry about it.
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S3 Cam > One X, LTEvo cam
Cry about it.
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Glad to see people comparing the One X/EVO 4G LTE with a phone that isn't even in their hand yet.
I'm okay with the camera being only slightly better than other phones, given the amazing speed at which it takes photos.
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Glad to see people comparing the One X/EVO 4G LTE with a phone that isn't even in their hand yet.
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I'm not purchasing either device,
But I've been lucky enough to play with them side by side already.
And I'm a huge HTC fan
It pains me to admit, HTC kinda lost there ass this time.
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The one x camera is what they said it would be. Awesome for a smartphone! Well atleast my evo lte cam is,which I'm pretty sure it's the same. Mind you I'm 26 year's old and have a busy nightlife,this camera captures it ALL!
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I'm not purchasing either device,
But I've been lucky enough to play with them side by side already.
And I'm a huge HTC fan
It pains me to admit, HTC kinda lost there ass this time.
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But, you do realize that the One Series and the EVO 4G LTE were both completed by design and announced before official rumors of the S3 was complete. So, of course Samsung would 1up the competition. It's just like if a new phone is announced later in the year, it's obviously gonna have better specs than one that was designed before.
And HTC definitely didn't lose their ass with this new phone (Especially the EVO 4G LTE). The One series is a step in the right direction for the company. No more quantity over quality. They're taking things down the right road this time.
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But, you do realize that the One Series and the EVO 4G LTE were both completed by design and announced before official rumors of the S3 was complete. So, of course Samsung would 1up the competition. It's just like if a new phone is announced later in the year, it's obviously gonna have better specs than one that was designed before.
And HTC definitely didn't lose their ass with this new phone (Especially the EVO 4G LTE). The One series is a step in the right direction for the company. No more quantity over quality. They're taking things down the right road this time.
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What I meant by lost their ass is by pitching a huge marketing campaign based on the power of their new cameras and than they get beat out.
I stumbled on this post searching for something. What a dumb post. Just delete his whole thread. I myself am.dumber for reading it. Camera quality is subjective when quality is this good. No one is using a phone to take aerial photos of property to show off. HTC has a hit. S3 is good but another same looking samsung phone. What innovation there. I am a big Samsung fan but S3 is a disappointment on looks and design for its exterior.
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I stumbled on this post searching for something. What a dumb post. Just delete his whole thread. I myself am.dumber for reading it. Camera quality is subjective when quality is this good. No one is using a phone to take aerial photos of property to show off. HTC has a hit. S3 is good but another same looking samsung phone. What innovation there. I am a big Samsung fan but S3 is a disappointment on looks and design for its exterior.
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Sorry you didn't like the article, i thought it was interesting to see a phone have a camera that good and somewhat surprised to see the htc phone rated that low. The phone was a hit at the last show because of the camera, they rated it a top 5 show item. I would think these people are more knowledgeable in the phone technology area, they certainly are smarter than mehttp://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/nokia-808-pureview-united-states/ I did also see that engadget has their review up for the S3 and they say the S3 camera, except for a faster shutter, is not much better than the S2. They also say the camera is about the same as the htc camera. So while that makes the cameras both pretty good I guess they are not a huge leap forward.http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-shootout-atandt-vs-sprint/
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What I meant by lost their ass is by pitching a huge marketing campaign based on the power of their new cameras and than they get beat out.
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Have a look at the quality in this picture I took, and explain how this can get beat out.
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Nice picture, no doubt, but if htc took the time to install a 3d camera on last years flagship phone, maybe a year from now they could install something similar to the nokia's camera and have something that is actually a "huge" improvement. We are now shown the technology is there and is being used and mass produced.
This beast will be my next phone. The DNA will be passed to my oldest daughter. She'll benefit from all the time it's taken me to unlock, root, s-off, etc and pick up a great device while I get the newest toy! :good:
evleaks are known to be a reliable source, so I believe these 100%.
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YAY!!!! NO HOME BUTTON!!!
http://phandroid.com/2013/03/04/is-...d-display-storage-camera-and-android-version/
April can't come soon enough!!!
Ew
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evleaks are known to be a reliable source, so I believe these 100%.
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I agree that EVLeaks has been reliable but the phone in their pics looks like it has a display much larger than 4.99". The phone in the pic looks as big as the N2. That is unless Samsung's only counting usable space vs. including what's dedicated to navigation. If that's it, it certainly doesn't have a lot of personality but I guess when the display is 95% of the front of the phone there's not a lot to work with.
Why is this even in the DNA section?
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Aspect ratio is all off, i highly doubt this is real
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Wrong forum.
Samsung's build quality doesn't even remotely compare to HTC anyway. And Sense is a million times more attractive than any skin Samsung has developed. So, yawn. Post this in an S3 thread.
How is this possibly the wrong forum? Haters are gonna hate. I've seen multiple thread in here about the HTC One/M7, gaming performance, the Playstation 4, etc, etc., but two of the first four replies say it's the wrong forum? Please. This is general as in generally, anything in reason can be discussed.
Now to respond to the intelligent responses- the aspect ratio and the rumored 4.99" screen size are just rumors. The benchmark that was posted is from an unreleased model number and may never see the day of light. The Note 2 is extremely popular and it makes sense to meld the two lines without a complete merge. This looks like an improved N2 without a pen. Besides, how can the aspect ratio be wrong if the only quasi-official spec on the screen is "full HD?"
It's either a great render or it's legit; look at the camera lens size compared to the N2 and S3: http://versusio.com/en/samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3
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How is this possibly the wrong forum? Haters are gonna hate. I've seen multiple thread in here about the HTC One/M7, gaming performance, the Playstation 4, etc, etc., but two of the first four replies say it's the wrong forum? Please. This is general as in generally, anything in reason can be discussed.
Now to respond to the intelligent responses- the aspect ratio and the rumored 4.99" screen size are just rumors. The benchmark that was posted is from an unreleased model number and may never see the day of light. The Note 2 is extremely popular and it makes sense to meld the two lines without a complete merge. This looks like an improved N2 without a pen. Besides, how can the aspect ratio be wrong if the only quasi-official spec on the screen is "full HD?"
It's either a great render or it's legit; look at the camera lens size compared to the N2 and S3: http://versusio.com/en/samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3
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Haha.. Because it says "Droid DNA General" at the top, and you are talking about a phone that is not only NOT a Droid DNA, but it isn't even made by the same manufacturer. How is it even remotely the correct forum? Posts about the One/M7 are at least understandable because they are also HTC, and the most recent follow-up to the Droid DNA, and there is not yet a forum dedicated to the One/M7. As I said, your post would be more appropriate in the S3 forum. The only purpose behind posting in this one is to stir up the "haters" to which you refer.
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Haha.. Because it says "Droid DNA General" at the top, and you are talking about a phone that is not only NOT a Droid DNA, but it isn't even made by the same manufacturer. How is it even remotely the correct forum? Posts about the One/M7 are at least understandable because they are also HTC, and the most recent follow-up to the Droid DNA, and there is not yet a forum dedicated to the One/M7. As I said, your post would be more appropriate in the S3 forum. The only purpose behind posting in this one is to stir up the "haters" to which you refer.
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(Otherwise known as "trolling".)
Troll.
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Lol - how old are you man? WTF
What's the difference between this and our phone besides storage and cam?
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8-cores? No wayyyyyy
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What's the difference between this and our phone besides storage and cam?
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Newer processor. Likely an Exynos 5 octo-core everywhere but the US..... where it will have a snapdragon 600 (same processor as the HTC One) due to US carriers preference of Qualcomm. I could see the US variants getting bumped up to 4GB of RAM.
That being said...... I'll stick with my DNA.
Well this processor talk is not really my cup of tea, well and don't much about it but DNA is fast enough for me and I'm good. How come the op didn't get this excited over the m7. It has the same specs but camera.
Processor may be good but they seriously need to get away from crapoled screens. Figured they would have. And the device in the picture looks to be WAY bigger than 5 inches. It looks Note 2 sized. If that is the case, no dice.
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What's the difference between this and our phone besides storage and cam?
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Processor will most likely be a little faster. Not much improvement really. The s4 will probrably have more developer support if your into that kind of thing. Removable battery to upgrade to extended battery or replace the battery if needed.
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How is this possibly the wrong forum? Haters are gonna hate. I've seen multiple thread in here about the HTC One/M7, gaming performance, the Playstation 4, etc, etc., but two of the first four replies say it's the wrong forum? Please. This is general as in generally, anything in reason can be discussed.
Besides, how can the aspect ratio be wrong if the only quasi-official spec on the screen is "full HD?"
It's either a great render or it's legit; look at the camera lens size compared to the N2 and S3: http://versusio.com/en/samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3
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Merging the lines doesn't make sense. It looks exactly like the note 2. If they wanted to look slow they make a note 5.0... Also full hd means it's going to be 1080p which is a 16:9 aspect ratio. Which it does not have. It's either a ****ty render or a soon to be failed phone. And get ready for the " is that the note 2" question... Also the octa processor has eight cores but only 4 used at once. It has 4 a15 cores and 4a7 cores i believe. The a7 are for lower priority tasks. This is Samsung's attempt to conserve power. But they mislead consumers alot with saying eight cores. I hope the s4 looks like the s3 only a tiny bit bigger at most. Merging with the note looks is retarded
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Well this processor talk is not really my cup of tea, well and don't much about it but DNA is fast enough for me and I'm good. How come the op didn't get this excited over the m7. It has the same specs but camera.
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The M7 was a minor refresh to the DNA. It still has the same storage problems and they actually went down in screen size. In these days of them making 60 and 90" HDTVs, HTC is heading in the wrong direction. The M7's camera also went in reverse in camera megapixels, but many are reporting excellent image quality with the new technology it's using. Lastly, even though the battery life on the DNA has been surprisingly good, I like being able to pull my battery if needed for dev stuff and throw in a spare when away from juice for a while.
The main reason I'm excited for this phone is I know the AOKP ROM will be on it in about two weeks after release. I used it on my GNex and my S3 and will my S4. The DNA has been a great phone (especially with Viper on it) while I waited for the S4, but I always knew it was a transitional device for me.
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You're kind of right. Octa is 4+4, a quad-core A7 teamed with a quad-core A15. It's the first commercial implementation of ARM's new big.LITTLE design which has been in development for two years. This explains Octa (big.LITTLE) if anyone's interested.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38637411&postcount=97
As for the EVLeak pics, they're fake. It was a place holder mock-up done by Expansys in preparation for the SGS4 launch. Too bad, the design in those pics would definitely be good for HTC.
"But the @evleaks tweets were quickly discredited after Expansys said that the diagrams that had been tweeted actually came from its own site - and that they were its artists' impressions of what a Galaxy S4 might look like, rather than actual pictures."
HTC is way better
Let's throw this thread way off track, and talk about something a little more interesting Who's going to buy the Xbox 720 when it comes out @ the end of the year?? The rumored specs sound pretty impressive.
My Droid DNA