Reboots Only in Morning After Initial Boot - Motorola Photon 4G

I've finally isolated an unusual behavior for my Photon. This has happened with multiple devices, the latest one right out of the box with no additional apps whatsoever. The behavior is that every morning when I take the phone off the charger (shutdown and in charge mode) and boot, it would reboot with no indication of why about 2 minutes after it booted completely (1.5 minutes after the screen turns off – 30 second delay setting). It would do this repeatedly for at least 3 times before it would stop. It has done this up to 6 times before I stopped it. I could stop the behavior at any time by keeping the screen on manually or keeping it on the charger (screen always on when on charger) for the first 2 minutes after boot. It wouldn't do this at any other time during the day, only the first boot of the day after being shutdown in charge mode overnight. I got so frustrated babysitting my phone for a couple of minutes every morning and over 4 months of troubleshooting thinking it was an app related issue.
The cause of this has been class 10 micro sdhc cards. I've tried two 16gb class 10 cards (same manufacturer) and two 32gb class 10 cards (different manufacturers), all with the same behavior. Only when I remove the card or put in a card other than class 10 does the morning reboots stop. I have tried formatting the cards in the phone and on the computer with 32kb allocation unit size with no change. My current card is a 16gb class 6, formatted in the computer with 32kb allocation unit size, with identical files as I was using on the previous two 32gb cards. At no time have I gotten sd card errors on the phone and have never had a problem accessing files on the micro sdhc card.
Like I stated, I've repeated this on three devices, one fresh out of the box with no additional apps. For whatever reason, the Photon doesn't like class 10 cards or has problems with my setup options together with class 10 cards. This and the notification light flashing have been so aggrevating but now I have them both fixed (no thanks to Motorola).

On cell phones, its best you use SD cards no higher than class 4.

kusanagi-sama said:
On cell phones, its best you use SD cards no higher than class 4.
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That may be, but I never had a problem with my Evo4G and class 10 cards. Why do you think class 4 should be the fastest for phones?

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Micro SD card Problems?

Touch-HD supplied with Transcend 8GB card. Had phone replaced in less than 24 hours due to getting hot and doing random resets.
Anyway replacment came with Scandisc 8GB card. Now after using phone for 48hours the card seemed to have been the problem.
It was the card that was getting hot by luck the replacment phone came supplied with different make of card.
Phone supplied by Orange they gave excellent service. Phone replaced within 8 hours.

Phone won't turn on after powering down? Look here.

So far, this has happened to me TWO times, both were fixed by doing a battery pull and removing the memory card.
Likely causes:
-I turned off fast boot, and powered the phone down.
-32GB Class 10 Wintec memory card.
-USB 3.0 extender cable.
-Nokia MicroUSB charging cable.
Problem:
After turning off fast boot (not sure if this is related) and completely powering down the phone, the charging light will go off, and not come back on. This prevents the phone from being able to be turned on and no amount of unplugging and plugging back in fixes it.
Solution:
Unplug the charging cable. I have had to do a battery pull twice, not only a battery pull but also removing my memory card and leaving it out. After putting the battery back in, the phone's charging light will come back on. At this point I unplug the cable again, pull the battery again, reinsert my memory card and battery, then plug it back in and the charging light will come on and the phone will power on.
I'm not sure if this is faulty hardware, a conflicting memory card, fast boot disabling, or just plain software issues, but I am going to try and see if I can pinpoint the exact combination of steps needed to reproduce this.
Can you guys please chime in if you've had this issue so I don't replace my phone for nothing? Thanks!
I have had this issue a few times now - but it could be because I have been um... well, hacking. I can't use my SD card anymore. I have to boot with it out of the phone until I can get home and do some repair work, haha.
Shinzul said:
I have had this issue a few times now - but it could be because I have been um... well, hacking. I can't use my SD card anymore. I have to boot with it out of the phone until I can get home and do some repair work, haha.
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Looking forward to the fruits of your destroyed 3D!
We're all pulling for you bro
Biofall said:
Looking forward to the fruits of your destroyed 3D!
We're all pulling for you bro
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This ^
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Shinzul said:
I have had this issue a few times now - but it could be because I have been um... well, hacking. I can't use my SD card anymore. I have to boot with it out of the phone until I can get home and do some repair work, haha.
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touche!!
Shinzul said:
I have had this issue a few times now - but it could be because I have been um... well, hacking. I can't use my SD card anymore. I have to boot with it out of the phone until I can get home and do some repair work, haha.
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Fistpump!
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Ahaha, definitely something microsd related. works fine with stock 8GB
Either a ...file.....or.....something....eheh.
freeza said:
So far, this has happened to me TWO times, both were fixed by doing a battery pull and removing the memory card.
Likely causes:
-I turned off fast boot, and powered the phone down.
-32GB Class 10 Wintec memory card.
-USB 3.0 extender cable.
-Nokia MicroUSB charging cable.
Problem:
After turning off fast boot (not sure if this is related) and completely powering down the phone, the charging light will go off, and not come back on. This prevents the phone from being able to be turned on and no amount of unplugging and plugging back in fixes it.
Solution:
Unplug the charging cable. I have had to do a battery pull twice, not only a battery pull but also removing my memory card and leaving it out. After putting the battery back in, the phone's charging light will come back on. At this point I unplug the cable again, pull the battery again, reinsert my memory card and battery, then plug it back in and the charging light will come on and the phone will power on.
I'm not sure if this is faulty hardware, a conflicting memory card, fast boot disabling, or just plain software issues, but I am going to try and see if I can pinpoint the exact combination of steps needed to reproduce this.
Can you guys please chime in if you've had this issue so I don't replace my phone for nothing? Thanks!
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161411 said:
Pros: First, I have to say I am coming back to write a review because of Wintec's support! I've been emailing them back and forth, and today, 2 days after my last email, they called me out of the blue to get more details - and to pass me straight to the tech. Impressive.
(back on topic) After reading the other reviews here, I put this card through the ringer from day one for about a solid week. Using www.iozone.org, I really loaded it up to beat on it for 2 hours at a time.
It passed any and all tests, hands down.
Rated as a Class 10 for 10 MB/s substained write speeds, I averaged ~18 MB/s with this card, sometimes peaking to 24 MB/s. PASS
Also, read was much higher than expected.
Seek time, not so much (see cons).
Cons: Windows Phone 7 has the highest requirements in the industry for microSDHC cards. Specifically, it seems cards with a random seek time of 8 ms or faster is about the only cards that works in Windows Phone 7 (aka WP7).
This is not one of those cards. And you'll be hard pressed to find a microSDHC card that advertises as such, as they are pretty much a shoot in the barrel.
This card measured a very low 18 ms on random seek time. When installing this card in my WP7 device, as expected, random reboots happened and applications crashed, as well as sever delays in launching applications.
Sticking in the stock Sandisk Class 4 card worked fine. I ended up purchasing a Sandisk 32 GB Class 2 card and and it measured 7 ms, with a WRITE that matched the OEM Class 4 card of 6.8 MB/s. That card works perfectly in my WP7. This Wintect card, did not.
This card is not suited for mobile phones because mobile phones require near-instant lookups to random data.
Other Thoughts: Buy this card for cameras that need very fast write speeds. It will exceed your expectations (or at least any card you own).
Do NOT buy this card for your mobile phone (Android, WP7, WinMo, etc).
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Freeza
I was also looking into getting a 32 gb class 10 card but came around this post in the NewEgg feedback section. It is regarding the Wintec Card no less. This may be your problem. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161411)
-reg
I agree, it's probably that card. I got one last Dec and it was so unreliable in my Hero I had to go back to my Sandisk.
hope my cheapy class 1 16gb works okay
Just kidding guys, I have been able to reproduce this problem every single time without fail now.
Steps:
-Plug charger in.
-Turn off fast boot. Settings>Power>uncheck fastboot
-Power down phone (while charger is in)
voila.
Remove battery and memory card, unplug charger, put battery and card back in, plug in charger. Problem solved.
Seems to do with having the phone plugged in while disabling fast boot/shutting down with a memory card in, because If I repeat the steps with a memory card already out, it works fine.
Interesting to see if this is just my unit.
Anyone wanna try?

Is my SD Card broken?

Hello!
I have got a 64GB micro sd card, it was running for a year or so in my Galaxy S3, before in The Note2. It was pre formatted in exFat - everything worked fine without a problem. (It is a SanDisk SDXC card, the grey/red one)
A few days ago I was walking home and my battery was about 3 or 4 percent. I wanted to listen to some music on my way home, suddenly there was no more music and I couldn't start the phone. I tried the power button, I hoped there may be a little power left, but the screen kept black.
At home I charged my phone. When I started it later the SD Card wasn't recognized. Although I had a lot of music on it I wanted to format it in my phone (I have got all music and the rest of the card backed up on my pc)
It doesn't work, there was some notice like "...couldn't be formatted" I don't know the exact words.
Then I tried to format it from the PC (the card still in the phone) - I couldn't even see the card.
Then I tried it with a card reader, and later on in a laptop with a card reader and both times the same:
If the card gets recognized it has to be formatted, but the size of the card is "32.6 MB" which is definitly wrong. This isn't space that was on the card left, there were some GBs left. Even if I try to format it the PC stops and says something like "couldn't end the formatting" -> my PC has german language, I can't tell you exactly
What can I do now?
Has someone had a similar problem? It was a 64GB card, and these are not cheap
Have I maybe killed the card when the battery was near 0% and I tried to restart the phone?
I am pleased about every answer.
Have a nice day
lienot
See SanDisk card problems via Google return to SanDisk .
jje

[Q] Unusual Battery Drain, Micro SD problem, Scan Media

The problems I have in my SII(Rooted) is very unusual. First is what I have was the micro SD. It was suddenly write-protected. SO what I did, I opened root manager in ES file manager and made it from RO to RW but no difference, it still stays at RO. 2nd is, It only scanned SOME music files in my sd card and phone memory. It was like selected which will be put inside the music player. I did sdrescan but it only worked a bit and when I click to trigger to scan, it didn't work. It only read the other some (Not read) in the music player but still not the whole songs. And my 3rd major problem is my battery. I Did SetCPU and POWERMAX and Easy Battery Saver but the result is just the same. It sucks battery life like crazy. Every Music File I play (2-5 mins) It gets 2 PERCENT of the battery EACH. And only after 10 mins after plugging my phone out of my charger, it's 92 percent from 100 which usually have to be in 100 percent only or 99. This problem ruined also my datas inside my phone. All of my files are missing. Even the wifi passwords. Does anyone know the solution of this problems? The screenshot is my battery history. My battery crazy drain started when I went to a session where there aren't any cell signal. And when I got my phone back after the session it's only 56 from 92. And after that, my phone memory suddenly have 0.00B. Not kidding. My phone doesn't even have virus I checked it and all and I am forced to delete 8 apps. And then after that day my phone went to these problems. Changing to a new battery is not a solution. It's still a same result. And that's what I noticed is that the phone itself is the problem. The drain is going out of control.
seems like your SD card is broken? Can you run an integrity test on it?
Have you tried using your phone without the SD card for a day or two just to see how this affects battery life?
Also a Better Battery stats log would help analyse the source of the problem.
this will delete all your data on your phone (not full wipe)
go to settings>storage>scroll and when you see format sd card click it
Before you do this transport your foto's and important stuff on your pc or cloud storage.
and if this doesn't work try to format your external sdcard on your pc to fat32 i belief good luck!
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and for your battery do this:
while your phone is on charge it to 100%
and then go to recover mode and use clockworkmode or other recover mode's with wipe battery state avalible
and power off your phone and charge it to 100% and if it is 100% let it charge for 5 min
now pull your battery out and let your phone rest for 1 hour, and after a hour battery in phone on and hope that it work
I had some unusial battery drain (not so bad as yours) but it helped! good luck one again!
Try formatting you SD card in Fat32 mode via Windows
I got the same problem a years back with my SD card too.
When ever it's in my phone, it will keep in the restart loop, or restart normally then just shutdown itself until i had to remove the battery to on it again, or just shutdown randomly until i need to remove the battery to re-on it.
It even make my song or picture in the card unreadable or read in partial (song with annoying chirping sound, picture with annoying block/mosaic)...
Things get all good, when i just remove the SD card and use the phone without SD card.
I use a Kingmax 16G class 10, even format it into FAT32, scan the card (no bad sector at all)
So i contacted the manufacturer and stated my problem facing, they have no solution but change a new card.
Once the new card is put in, all the problem gone. i was wondering....
May be you can try change your SD card (if you have extra piece) to try it out.
Also I heard try not to use anything higher than class 4, but what makes it true, i'm still looking for the fact.
Jerryky said:
I got the same problem a years back with my SD card too.
When ever it's in my phone, it will keep in the restart loop, or restart normally then just shutdown itself until i had to remove the battery to on it again, or just shutdown randomly until i need to remove the battery to re-on it.
It even make my song or picture in the card unreadable or read in partial (song with annoying chirping sound, picture with annoying block/mosaic)...
Things get all good, when i just remove the SD card and use the phone without SD card.
I use a Kingmax 16G class 10, even format it into FAT32, scan the card (no bad sector at all)
So i contacted the manufacturer and stated my problem facing, they have no solution but change a new card.
Once the new card is put in, all the problem gone. i was wondering....
May be you can try change your SD card (if you have extra piece) to try it out.
Also I heard try not to use anything higher than class 4, but what makes it true, i'm still looking for the fact.
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That actually helped.... My battery stopped draining fast.... holy crud thank you!
Thank you guys!!!
Wow you have pretty similar case with mine. Here the battery drain fast. It suddenly drain after i try to force turn off the phone due to stuck "i don't know why the phone stuck suddenly"
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Wow you have pretty similar case with mine. Here the battery drain fast. It suddenly drain after i try to force turn off the phone due to stuck "i don't know why the phone stuck suddenly"
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[Q] Can't boot with SD inserted

I'm on the latest sky dragon build every once in a while my phone will either crash or the audio won't work (this includes navigation and ring tones.) If it's the latter, I'll reboot the phone but it will hang at the red Verizon screen. If it crashes it'll reboot and hand at the Verizon screen. I'll pull the battery and turn the phone on, but it still hangs. Until I pull the battery and remove the SD (64gb class 10 sony) then I turn the phone on, and it boots doing. Then I insert the SD card and everything work find again.
There've been occasions in the past that for me and for others as well that something's wonky with the Micro SD card that's solved by reformatting the card and starting back from scratch. I know how much of a pain it is to move all your stuff off and put anything back on you definitely want to keep there, but there's not really anything else to try, I don't think. That's the inconvenient aspect of the now getting convenient-sized largish Micro SD Cards.
Good luck!

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