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I know it is 90%impossible to port Sense 3.0 for SII, but Sense 3.5 is designed to meet requirements of previous HTC phones, so wouldn't it be easier to port?
I just hate TW4.0 but also love the hardware of SII and it would be great if I could have best launcher and best phone.
Zero interest in this myself,coming from a HD2 when i had a sense ROM more often than not there was always lag,only non sense based ROM's had no lag so i cant imagine this would be any different having sense on the GS2,at least with Touchwiz there is zero lag and it's fast!
SII is much more powerfull than HD2. TW4.0 is smooth but I don't like interface that want to be iOS but is not. I love sense widgets and all kind of eyecandy staff from HTC, and I would like to see it on my SII.
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SII is much more powerfull than HD2. TW4.0 is smooth but I don't like interface that want to be iOS but is not. I love sense widgets and all kind of eyecandy staff from HTC, and I would like to see it on my SII.
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Totally agreed. my friend keep showing off his HTC Sense. make me jealous.
"Devs" are currently trying to port it, even though they haven't gotten far. Hopefully DG will be able to help them
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"Devs" are currently trying to port it, even though they haven't gotten far. Hopefully DG will be able to help them
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I hope so. It would be awesome to see my SII with Sense.
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"Devs" are currently trying to port it, even though they haven't gotten far. Hopefully DG will be able to help them
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I really wish they would step up their game. It feels like they are a bunch of unorganised people (esp. the beta testers). The repetitive posting of rules doesn't help get interest in the project either..
why not just try GoLauncher or Launcher Pro...many widgets and themes for both launchers especially GoLauncher... i would like to see sense as well but from what i have been reading thats a dead case not gonna happen..But you never know if a serious dev goes in like DG then hopefully it might work
I think devs should rather focus on the now very soon here Android 4.0. Hopefully the Nexus Prime is a SGS2 with different software, and Google should open source it. From my experience with Sense, it's 80% eye candy. On the HD2 is was much slower than CM7 and brought little additional functionality for the extra lag. Sure the Galaxy S2 is much more powerful, but it doesn't eliminate the problems of Sense. The lag may go away, but the higher battery drain will sure be noticeable. Just try and use a launcher for the widgets, there are lots on the market.
I have a Desire HD and I want get something new, and I don't know if I should buy a new HTC flagship device or the SGS II. I run a Sense 3.5 ROM and ... It is so so function rich. I love the panorama mode in the camera, made some very nice pic already. I love those 3D widgets. But there is the screen of the SGS II... and the battery life.
If it would be possible to run Sense 3.5 on SGS II, I would buy it without a question. HTC is far ahead of any other android device manufacturer in software, and a lil bit behind Samsung in hardware performance.
... and you can't compare a SGS II to a HD2, they're not the same weight
Define what do you mean by good software software? Now as a computer science student a good software has the following features: usability, dependability, efficiency and maintainability, and some other minor but important features.
Now for sense, dependability? Heck no, seeing as I keep on reading these security issues related to their roms where user private information gets leaked to marketing websites. Efficiency? From my point of view, having half of your resources used on just the interface is simply a waste and bad coding. Usability, they sure do pass with that as they have designed a brilliant and intuitive GUI. Maintainability? Well I'd say they're doing a good job in the sense that they are keeping up with the times but I can't really make a sure judgment.
Now for TW. Dependability? I haven't heard or remember any security issue relating to TW except for the Pin code lockscreen workaround/bug for At&t's SGS2. Efficiency? Well considering only a near 1/3 of my resources are taken up, then yes? Usability, as you said it is similar to iOS UI, and iOS UI is pretty damn simple and intuitive itself, so TW is already passing. Maintainability? It is the same with HTC, I am not competent enough to make a sure judgment.
All in all i am simply countering your statement of HTC making software miles ahead of the other manufacturers, which simply isn't true. Note this done not only apply for Samsung, this applies for Nokia/Meego, Apple, Microsoft, etc.
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If it would be possible to run Sense 3.5 on SGS II, I would buy it without a question. HTC is far ahead of any other android device manufacturer in software, and a lil bit behind Samsung in hardware performance.
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If by 'far ahead' you mean 'Fire out phones as if there is no tomorrow and stop supporting handsets after 6months' then yeah...I agree...
I used to have the HTC Hero. My mate had the HTC Desire, Another mate currently has the HTC HD.
The hero stopped getting updates after 6 months (it was stuck on android 1.5 for 5months...thats right, 1.5....).
My mate with the Desire stopped getting updates after around the same time.
HTC spend far too much time splooging out phones every few months and 0.5% percent of their time offering support.
It took 3weeks for me to get a reply from them via email asking if they planned on releasing 2.1 update for my Hero. And even then they didnt answer it, just sent me a generic copy and paste.
The batteries seem to become fried with HTCs really quickly also. When I first got my phone it would last 3 days, after 12 months it lasted a day and a half (after having returned it to a clean slate again, just like when I first got it).
Mates desire lost a day of use time after 9months.
and the HTC HD is getting on a bit also...(mind you, he is running all stock not rooted).
Obviously I dont know how my SGS2 battery will hold up, but at the moment I get a day and a half with all settings on/auto (wifi, 3g, autosync etc), I could stretch it to 2 easy, not bad for a dualcore 1.2ghz compared to my 518mhz hero...
Samsung make a higher capacity battery though, so at least they seem pro-active compared to HTC (when my battery deteriorates I can can get a oem replacement upgrade, HTC Id be stuck with a oem stock replacement which would be crap again after 8-12 months)
That's the reason I have swapped to Samsung.
Interfaces can be changed easily enough (home replacements, rom swaps), hardware and customer service your stuck with.
Agree with the security problems with sense though. and the lag...oh the lag...although i was only running at 518mhz...
I dont see the point in dragging sense over the SGS2 other than to be like "wooo look what we've done!", But I know some people want it so whatever lol.
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Hurry up Devs!
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I really wish they would step up their game. It feels like they are a bunch of unorganised people (esp. the beta testers). The repetitive posting of rules doesn't help get interest in the project either..
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You're totally right! These people, the Devs, who are doing this for fun (not money) should totally step up their game! I mean, why shouldn't we get upset at normal people with normal lives taking the time out of their busy days to build a product/software that we otherwise would NEVER get to try?
I totally agree with your statement! Come on Devs, why don't you please "step up your game" so we can ***** some more when we finally do get it and expect it to be the bee's knees . . . .
(Lots of sarcasm in there if you didn't catch that)
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I think devs should rather focus on the now very soon here Android 4.0. Hopefully the Nexus Prime is a SGS2 with different software, and Google should open source it. From my experience with Sense, it's 80% eye candy. On the HD2 is was much slower than CM7 and brought little additional functionality for the extra lag. Sure the Galaxy S2 is much more powerful, but it doesn't eliminate the problems of Sense. The lag may go away, but the higher battery drain will sure be noticeable. Just try and use a launcher for the widgets, there are lots on the market.
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i was running a virtuous sense rom on my G2 and didn't experience any lag.
sense on SGII would be amazing.
Seems to me that for every non-HTC user that wants HTC Sense on their phone, there's an HTC user that wants HTC Sense off their phone...
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If by 'far ahead' you mean 'Fire out phones as if there is no tomorrow and stop supporting handsets after 6months' then yeah...I agree...
I used to have the HTC Hero. My mate had the HTC Desire, Another mate currently has the HTC HD.
The hero stopped getting updates after 6 months (it was stuck on android 1.5 for 5months...thats right, 1.5....).
My mate with the Desire stopped getting updates after around the same time.
HTC spend far too much time splooging out phones every few months and 0.5% percent of their time offering support.
It took 3weeks for me to get a reply from them via email asking if they planned on releasing 2.1 update for my Hero. And even then they didnt answer it, just sent me a generic copy and paste.
The batteries seem to become fried with HTCs really quickly also. When I first got my phone it would last 3 days, after 12 months it lasted a day and a half (after having returned it to a clean slate again, just like when I first got it).
Mates desire lost a day of use time after 9months.
and the HTC HD is getting on a bit also...(mind you, he is running all stock not rooted).
Obviously I dont know how my SGS2 battery will hold up, but at the moment I get a day and a half with all settings on/auto (wifi, 3g, autosync etc), I could stretch it to 2 easy, not bad for a dualcore 1.2ghz compared to my 518mhz hero...
Samsung make a higher capacity battery though, so at least they seem pro-active compared to HTC (when my battery deteriorates I can can get a oem replacement upgrade, HTC Id be stuck with a oem stock replacement which would be crap again after 8-12 months)
That's the reason I have swapped to Samsung.
Interfaces can be changed easily enough (home replacements, rom swaps), hardware and customer service your stuck with.
Agree with the security problems with sense though. and the lag...oh the lag...although i was only running at 518mhz...
I dont see the point in dragging sense over the SGS2 other than to be like "wooo look what we've done!", But I know some people want it so whatever lol.
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Hi all!
first of all, how could you compare a Hero to SGS2??
I had one for a year and was very happy with it! even if HTC didn't push the update to 2.1 very quickly I had it 3 month before with the XDA dev !!! and was working like a charm!, no lag, no massive battery drain...
secondly : "HTC spend far too much time splooging out phones every few months and 0.5% percent of their time offering support." and what about Samsung???
their phones looks like Iphones!!! the plastics are craps !!! and the support is no very good to (I have 3 friends that had some problems with their Galaxy and had to wait 3 weeks before getting it back!)
each time i solicited them i get an answer in less than 2 days!
I'm on a DHD since a year now, with the runny ROM from RCteam, without this security crap, working like a charm! no lag, no battery drain, a full sense experience!
I hope for you guys to get it on your SGS2
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I know it is 90%impossible to port Sense 3.0 for SII, but Sense 3.5 is designed to meet requirements of previous HTC phones, so wouldn't it be easier to port?
I just hate TW4.0 but also love the hardware of SII and it would be great if I could have best launcher and best phone.
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+1 Urgently agree
i would like to try a sense rom on my sgs2 too. just to get the extra dropbox space XD. anyway to do it without sense 3.5?
I have hd2 with 3.5 sense and I liked. I would like to see on sgs2. My be in one day a dev will do this.
With the recent leaks about the Galaxy Nexus being delayed, I have thought about purchasing the Rezound. What are your guys initial opinions on it? Do you regret purchasing it? What is your main gripe? Also, does the device have a locked bootloader?
You've been here over a year now...use search.
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Already did, don't be an asshole.
Yes. I would highly recommend it. The only thing the GNex has that this doesn't is instant root, and NFC. We will get S-Off soon, and then can flash ICS roms, and to be honest, how much do you really see yourself using NFC? I got mine on launch and love it. My only gripe is VZW's 4G is down right now (Nationwide Outage). I constantly get 42Mb/s download speed on it. But in the end, it all comes down to what you like the most. AOSP, or Sense. Samsung, or HTC. I personally love Sense, and many of the devs from the original Incredible came here also, so it was a no brainer.
Rezound has a better screen. It's so clean and clear, it is amazing.
I love this phone, but then I have nothing to compare it to never having used a smartphone before. I researched for the last 8 months, constantly changing which phone I was going to buy (incredible, tbolt, evo 3d, sgs2..) and I'm glad I got this one.
I love sense so HTC is a plus for me.
Poke around the forum and check all the threads. Loads of comments all over the place.
verizon g nex won't have NFC actually(at least not stock).
both phones are comperable, just that the GN does not have microSD support but it does have a slightly bigger screen.
additionally, Rezound has a better camera & of course its biggest selling point.... "Beats By Dre". w0rd
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really??? There have been many threads started already on this topic. Walk your lazy ass down to the verizon store when the nexus gets released (if ever) and play with both of them. We know nothing about you and your needs.
Rezound is the hands down winner. The Dev's who got their hands on it, coupled with reports of the bloat, lack of Google Wallet for Isis, etc have made me turn my head further from even considering the Nexus a viable option even as a warranty replacement device if the option ever arose. I would kick the CSR through the phone if that happened.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371384
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325303
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321433
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316219
Thought this question seemed familiar . Honestly in the end it would be best for you to just try them out both and see what you like. I'm happy with the Rezound it's hands down the smoothest phone I've used. Even with all bloat and stock launcher, I've recenly debloated and de-sensed and have like 500 MB of RAM free upon reboot or when I end apps w/ go launcher. Couldn't be happier with this phones performance, build quality, and most importantly the call quality. I've never been impressed with any Sammy phones for call quality or build quality, cheap plastic and tinny sounds.
I have had my Rezound since launch and have to say its an extremely nice phone. I am in the lucky position to be able to have a Rezound and also be able to get the GNex when it comes out. But without it being in my hands I would say the Rezound is by far the king of the Android phones for now. On the plus side: First, 16GB built-in and a 16GB micro SD card which is expandable to 32 for a grand total of 48GB. Second, best screen out and is better than the GNex. Third, 1.5 GHz dual-core processor (also at the top of the market). I could go on but you get the point. The plus side of the GNex is that it is Google's "phone". Google likes to save all of their newest/best technology for the Nexus line. So that basically guarantees updates and most of all a development community. I am definitely excited for the GNex but the Rezound is definitely a solid phone that will not disappoint.
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really??? There have been many threads started already on this topic. Walk your lazy ass down to the verizon store when the nexus gets released (if ever) and play with both of them. We know nothing about you and your needs.
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Hey chief, I would love to be able to compare them in person, BUT as you stated the Nexus isn't out and I would like to get an idea now. I guess I am not able to ask for a general idea of what the phone is like compared to the Nexus. Silly me.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371384
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325303
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321433
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316219
Thought this question seemed familiar . Honestly in the end it would be best for you to just try them out both and see what you like. I'm happy with the Rezound it's hands down the smoothest phone I've used. Even with all bloat and stock launcher, I've recenly debloated and de-sensed and have like 500 MB of RAM free upon reboot or when I end apps w/ go launcher. Couldn't be happier with this phones performance, build quality, and most importantly the call quality. I've never been impressed with any Sammy phones for call quality or build quality, cheap plastic and tinny sounds.
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Hmm, thank you for posting those. They didn't come up when I searched.
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Hey chief, I would love to be able to compare them in person, BUT as you stated the Nexus isn't out and I would like to get an idea now. I guess I am not able to ask for a general idea of what the phone is like compared to the Nexus. Silly me.
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how are we supposed to compare??? We don't have the nexus either. How about asking people who have tested both devices? Like Android central, engadget, the verge.
Though all will say the galaxy nexus is superior based on it being vanilla android.
Nexus lacks expandable storage, has a lower camera and less ppi on the screen. I don't like samsung products, so it has to blow away a htc phone for me to get it. My rezound has 46gb of storage, and is here now.
Yeah, expandable storage. It's even more than advertised. I saw a post in accessories where someone put in a 64gb card and the Rezound formatted it and it's working. So 80gb total. Pretty sweet.
See the multi-quote button? It is usable you know?
I wouldn't recommended the Rezound until the bootloader has been unlocked. Clearly it will have to be unofficial since Verizon decided to cockblock the official unlocking.
I got the Rezound shortly after it came out and will be exchanging it for the Galaxy Nexus when it arrives. The Rezound is good (much better than my aging Nexus One) but I don't care for HTC Sense and want a Google Experience phone. Not a fan of the Rezound's locked bootloader either. As for Google Wallet on the Nexus, it will likely work after rooting. See: http://gigaom.com/mobile/galaxy-nexus-and-google-wallet-my-first-nfc-purchase/
I went from the Blackberry Bold 9700 -> OG Evo -> Evo 3D -> Rezound. To give you my history. My girlfriend has a Captivate (the retarded cousin of the SGS line). I've used all of these extensively.
Obviously the Rezound is the best one. I honestly wasn't expecting a huge difference in performance between the Rezound and E3D, I wasn't sure that the extra .3ghz/core would make up for the pixel count difference. I was, however, pleasantly surprised. Again, obviously, best performance I've seen out of a phone. If you don't like Sense then use a different launcher. Yeah it's heavier on resources but I have yet to use a single app, play a single game, etc. and notice any lag whatsoever. This is, serisously, not an exaggeration.
On the other hand, I currently have Team Hacksung's alpha ICS port on my girlfriend's captivate (build 7.1) and it is gorgeous and snappy. Surprisingly snappy. Not that I am at all jealous of her hardware, but I now seriously want ICS on my Rezound. And my Touchpad. However, I am willing to wait.
All it comes down to, in my opinion, are these three things: Do you like Samoled more than SuperLCD? Do you like Samsung phones in general? (If you've used one you know what I'm talking about - thin and light, yes, but to the point of feeling like a happy meal toy). Can you wait a few weeks/maybe months for s-off/a good ICS port for Rezound?
And, beyond that, which feels better to you in general? Wait until the Nex hits the store and go pick one up. The one that feels better in your hand and that you like looking at more is the one for you.
Also, check out the Rezound's camera software. The HDR backlight mode and low light mode are killer.
Them's my thoughts, anyway.
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how are we supposed to compare??? We don't have the nexus either. How about asking people who have tested both devices? Like Android central, engadget, the verge.
Though all will say the galaxy nexus is superior based on it being vanilla android.
Nexus lacks expandable storage, has a lower camera and less ppi on the screen. I don't like samsung products, so it has to blow away a htc phone for me to get it. My rezound has 46gb of storage, and is here now.
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That's pretty much what they're saying for the Nexus that it's "superior" because of ICS. Imo the hardware on the Nexus isn't as high quality as it could be. Pentile matrix for the amoled screen, plastic casing, sub par camera, external speaker lacking in volume. In the end it's personal preference.
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Hmm, thank you for posting those. They didn't come up when I searched.
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No problem. I hope it gives you the additional insight you seek to make your final decision.
I love my Rezound, I consider it the best phone/smartphone I have ever owned, and I am 45 and have owned a helluva lot of phones.
Am I a bit disappointed by no S-off yet? Not really, it will happen one day. I've been keeping busy rooting other phones lol. I rooted my wifes Thunderbolt and installed 5hift AOSP for her yesterday. Today I rooted my father in laws new HTC DInc2, and installed CM7 for him. His phone was a bit more work as I had to downgrade GB 2.3.4 to 2.3.3, and had to downgrade the hboot also.
Is the Galaxy Nexus a great phone? No, not in my opinion. I have never liked Samsung phones. They feel cheap, and their SAMOLED screens have always looked cartoonish to me.
I'll stand by my Rezound, root/s-off or not . The Rezound does so many things so well. I really can't find anything I don't like about my Rezound!
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i might be trading my s2 for a amaze. can u guys tell me the goods of this phone? whats it better than s2? i dont want "just cuz you have a amaze u like it better". i want some real reasons ha.
is ics coming to this phone ota? or custom rom?
build quality?
battery life?
I was debating between the two when I updated, and I went with the amaze. Felt better, looked better, better camera/video, and I liked the screen better. Screen seemed smoother too. Only thing I don't like about it is the battery, it really does lose out in that category.
overall though, I liked the amaze better.
how about ics? whens that coming for amaze?
read an article some mfg's are bringing updates out very soon. depends who your provider is
im tmobile. you think ics will come out?
and r there any other things amaze has over the s2?
The phones are virtually identical in terms of hardware. The S2 will benchmark a bit better because of its lighter operating system but in terms of real world use, they're both fast phones.
You just have to ask yourself whether you prefer Sense or TouchWiz. Otherwise, go to a T-Mobile store and try playing with an Amaze and decide for yourself whether or not you like its build, how it feels, which screen you prefer, how important the camera is to you, etc.
Additionally, this phone may or may not ever attain S=off, so although flashing new roms is not difficult at all if you read, it is not as straightforward as it is with other devices.
In terms of an official ICS update, it's supposedly releasing early this year:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/07/htc-announces-specifics-on-ice-cream-sandwich-upgrades/
I had the amaze for a couple weeks and now the s2 I can tell you its just a matter of personal preference. I preferred what the amaze has to offer over the s2, camera mainly so now I'm trying to find someone to trade with the s2 is a good phone a lot of people choose it over the amaze but to me the things it offers like screen, being thin, tw aren't what I want.
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i can get trades for a amaze quick around my area. i wont have a external sdcard, so how will i flash the new recovery etc.
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i can get trades for a amaze quick around my area. i wont have a external sdcard, so how will i flash the new recovery etc.
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i saw buy a externel sdcard thats the best there only like 10 bucks for 4gbs
Well I'm coming off the HD2 so it's like taking a big leap and in lots of ways the Amaze is just a better piece of hardware. One of the things I do miss is the phenomenal development that went on in the HD2, you name it and someone was working on it. I really like MIUI but so far it's not been ported.
I cant complain about the work here, damn these guys are good and the ROMS are incredible. I'm using the latest from Xboarder and cant think of anything that doesn't work and work well. Even the battery is good & lasts about the whole day with some pretty heavy road warrior usage. One thing I did was pick up the Anker battery and charger off Amazon, for $18 you get the charger and 2 batteries, I never worry about running out of juice, it's a good system.
I'm an HTC guy, I looked at the S2 but just liked the amaze better but it's a personal preference, they are both solid phones. I push this thing in ways I never thought possible and it just works.
I'd not say the Amaze is going to blow your mind if you're coming from an S2 but HTC pays a lot of attention to detail and it really shows in this device.
The build quality, camera and Sense are all very refined and make for a rather polished device. Go for it
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I'd not say the Amaze is going to blow your mind if you're coming from an S2 but HTC pays a lot of attention to detail and it really shows in this device.
The build quality, camera and Sense are all very refined and make for a rather polished device. Go for it
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thanks ha. well is htc going to push out ics for amaze first then samsung?
Thinking of picking this up too. I had 3-4 S2s and the screen issue is what killed it for me.
What are some options of extending the battery life via better roms/kernels? I know the synergy kernel for the s2 (t989) was amazing.
If the battery life is bad, I'd rather just wait for the next thing.
I have both the Samsung Galaxy SII and the amaze. Both are practically the same. I prefer HTC Sense over Samsung TouchWiz. The battery life is quite bad on the Amaze, the SII definitely has a better life. However, the resolution the galaxy is horrible for its size. Overall, both are great phones, it comes down to the UI.
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I gave up my sensation for the sg2 because I thought I had to have the sg2. As soon as I got home I was already disappointed. Could not get over how blue the screen was. The size was awesome but size is nothing if the color is poor. Touchwiz is gay, go buy a iPhone if you like it. Sg2 felt cheap too. Being my sensation was sold, I exchanged for amaze. Htc just plain and simple makes great phones. Coming from the sensation to the amaze was kind of a let down. Phone isn't any better except the camera and dedicated shutter button. The fact of no development with the amaze makes it rather boring. Waiting on ics.
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I gave up my sensation for the sg2 because I thought I had to have the sg2. As soon as I got home I was already disappointed. Could not get over how blue the screen was. The size was awesome but size is nothing if the color is poor. Touchwiz is gay, go buy a iPhone if you like it. Sg2 felt cheap too. Being my sensation was sold, I exchanged for amaze. Htc just plain and simple makes great phones. Coming from the sensation to the amaze was kind of a let down. Phone isn't any better except the camera and dedicated shutter button. The fact of no development with the amaze makes it rather boring. Waiting on ics.
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Everything on the software side of the SGS2 (blue tint screen, TouchWiz sucking) could've been fixed on XDA.
I can't stand the 480x800 resolution on that 4.52in screen.... Also, it felt too light (SGSII)...
I have both the Amaze and the Sensation and I love them both. The Sensation has tons of ROMs and development. The Amaze has less development atm BUT the work that xboarder does IS OUTSTANDING. Plus, the camera is very nice.
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thanks guys. but im a teen with no money for a sdcard. how will i like root ang get the new recovery on the phone without a sdcard?
g1user101 said:
thanks guys. but im a teen with no money for a sdcard. how will i like root ang get the new recovery on the phone without a sdcard?
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Not to make you feel bad, but my teen daughter (14 years old), got a 16gb class 8 microSD as soon as she completed her small house chor. She needed the extra space so bad for storing the songs she wanted to carry around, and I was in a good mood for spending the few bucks it cost me.
In any case, you can do everything you're asking for without an sdcard. Go visit the [FAQ] or the [How to Root] threads and see for yourself.
By the way, I did buy both SG2S and the Amaze on the day it came out, and I am letting my wife use the SG2S. She thinks exactly the opposit. I feel lucky that she didn't chose the Amaze!!
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Not to make you feel bad, but my teen daughter (14 years old), got a 16gb class 8 microSD as soon as she completed her small house chor. She needed the extra space so bad for storing the songs she wanted to carry around, and I was in a good mood for spending the few bucks it cost me.
In any case, you can do everything you're asking for without an sdcard. Go visit the [FAQ] or the [How to Root] threads and see for yourself.
By the way, I did buy both SG2S and the Amaze on the day it came out, and I am letting my wife use the SG2S. She thinks exactly the opposit. I feel lucky that she didn't chose the Amaze!!
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I'm surprised your wife likes the SGS2, most females I know hate the phone or any with similar dimensions due to the phone being "too big" for their girly ass hands. Plus they're addicted to BBM anyways (ugh, BlackBerry)
The Amaze looks manlier in my opinon anyways
Hey guys, I've seen a lot of threads about our Amaze vs the SGS2, but not a whole lot about our Amaze vs the Galaxy Nexus. I could get a swap pretty easily, but I'm still on the fence about this, so I made a little list of reasons for and against the swap. I also want the opinions of my fellow Amaze users so your input is much appreciated!
Reasons to stay with the Amaze 4G
- the camera is MUCH better than the Galaxy Nexus, no contest there.
- the Galaxy Nexus has no microSD slot!
- the Amaze 4G is going to get the ICS update eventually, and with that, probably CM9 and more development
- the Amaze 4G has much better build quality
- the Amaze 4G has the option of HTC Sense ROMs for those who prefer it
Reasons to switch to the Galaxy Nexus
- the camera is inferior, however, it's still a decent camera that can replace your basic point and shoot
- 16 GB of storage is enough for most people, it may be inconvenient, but it can be bearable
- the Galaxy Nexus already has ICS, and since it's a world phone, it also has a much bigger development base
- the Galaxy Nexus sacrifices build quality for thinness and lightness, which some may prefer
- even though the screen is a pentile display, many may prefer the SAMOLED and higher resolution screen on the Galaxy Nexus over the SLCD screen on the Amaze
- it's a Google phone, meaning that it will most likely get the latest firmware updates (might even get to see Jellybean!)
- there are no soft keys, which means no soft key bleed problem so you'll have keys that are actually given a chance to light up (a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place)
Miscellaneous
- the Amaze is clocked at 1.5 GHz and the GNexus at 1.2 GHz, but it does not necessarily mean that the Amaze is faster. In fact, while playing games and running apps, I actually found the GNexus to run a tiny bit faster than the Amaze, but in other cases, the Amaze seems to out-perform the GNexus by a little bit, so the speed difference between the two CPUs is not as big as you think and may even be considered negligible
- both phones have a multi-coloured notification LED
- put yourself in my shoes, if you were offered a straight-up trade, your Amaze 4G for a (like) brand-new Galaxy Nexus, what would you do?
What do you folks think? I love the camera on the Amaze but the handset's shortcomings are really beginning to bother me. To be honest, if I had known that HTC wasn't as developer-friendly as they claimed to be, I wouldn't have picked the Amaze up, but at the same time, the Galaxy Nexus also has its fair share of weaknesses.
I would have to keep my Amaze, simply because I found myself changing between aosp and sense Roms on my incredible. And since that it right around the corner...
I like sense too much to completely get rid of it, sometimes I do need a break from it though.
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I would accept the trade man. Hands down the nexus the device to get because of the support from google.
I've always wanted to try the galaxy nexus... Skeptical though since its built by Samsung. :screwy:
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Eh, I don't like Samsung phones, and there is always something I don't like from the nexus phones......
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It's a fair trade, I'll just mention 2 things, you can't un-see the pentile layout, once you notice, you'll always notice, and yes... it IS noticeable (but bearable on 720).
also, Amoled screens burn in, so 6 months from now you'll have some solid color spashscreen on the phone, and notice that you can see your softkeys hinted inside of it, I know 3 people with the GNex, and it's already happening to them.
As mentioned the camera is decent, but not as good as the Amaze.
Jellybean will be on it VERY shortly after being released. It comes with PURE aosp, and CM9 will have no bugs other than ones caused by modifications to AOSP... The Amaze CPU is faster, but with a 3.0 kernel and ICS, the GNex is quicker for most things.
I love my Amaze, and the second I can have AOSP ICS and a 3.x kernel, I'd probably disagree with the trade, but for now, it's worth it.
I would stick with the Amaze. The point about the CPU difference will change greatly when the amaze gets ICS. GB isn't dual core optimised while ICS is.
The only thing that the GN has over the Amaze is official Google support and look how that turned out for the Nexus S and ICS... It took forever!
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The only thing that the GN has over the Amaze is official Google support and look how that turned out for the Nexus S and ICS... It took forever!
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But it had CM9 builds almost immediately, and it didn't take long for the international Nexus S. The SPH-D720 is hardly a Nexus phone, it's a carrier phone, it works only on sprint, it's sold in their storefronts, and was never a "developer" phone. Although it took a little while for the i9020a/t to get ICS, they had a fully working build pretty much immediately after AOSP ICS source dropped.
Nexus line is for developers, the support is there, so if they don't get Jellybean immediately from google, the community will have it obscenely fast.
I'd have to side with the other amaze users out there and say keep the amaze.
The thing is, I always figure the nexus line was supposed to be the best "average" phone for developers. It's not supposed to be the latest and greatest at everything, it's supposed to represent the average android smartphone at the time of its release, so that if someone develops an app, they know that it'll work with the vast majority of android users. There's gonna be phones better than it and phones worse than it
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I would accept the trade man. Hands down the nexus the device to get because of the support from google.
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What it being a Google device gotta do with anything? My friends has the phone. Such and ugly wack device. Samsung should stick to TV's.
coupetastic-droid said:
What it being a Google device gotta do with anything? My friends has the phone. Such and ugly wack device. Samsung should stick to TV's.
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Better support and faster updates. I'm sorry man but I would have to disagree with you. The gnex is such a beautiful device.
rubyman94 said:
The gnex is such a beautiful device.
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Yuck
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Yuck
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Lol! Just giving my two cents bro.
Honestly, I really really wanted the Galaxy Nexus and waited for a while to see if it would come to Tmo. Google's launch for the device was mad sloppy and I got sick of waiting.
I couldn't give up my Amaze for the Gnex. I use the camera all the time and I love that about this phone. Since having it in December I have over 1,000 pictures taken with it. In fact, when I traveled across the country to visit Pensylvania and Maryland two months ago, I didn't even bring a digital camera with me. Just used the Amaze the entire time and it worked out well.
Sure, development is slow on it and for some mysterious reason HTC is releasing Kernal Drivers for everything BUT this phone, but I feel like that leaves this small community up to a challenge. The work being done to get CM7 onto the Amaze is coming along nicely, and once they get the GSM/Wifi/NFC drivers working we'll finally have an AOSP rom running on this thing. It may be annoying to most people that we haven't gotten it fully running, but I see this as a big acomplishment for the few developers that we have here.
So yeah, I think I'll stick with the Amaze for a while. Its been very good to me
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I've always wanted to try the galaxy nexus... Skeptical though since its built by Samsung. :screwy:
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What it is that you are skeptical about? I have used SGS II, 3 varieties, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus and SGS original. I think, except than the feeling difference by holding the phone in your hand, there is nothing else which would make you worry of anything go wrong.
Compared to Amaze, yes, Nexus is totally different, 1 thing I love about Nexus phones is the Vanilla Android. Another thing I like about them is they have a different and whole new feeling about how one phone should feel like when you hold it or when its lying on your desk and someone overlooking is amazed with what its got, and the feeling it gives you with its curvy design is also something different which unfortunately no other manufactures have come up with.
On the other hand, I have used many htc phones too, i have had incredible s, amazing build quality. currently I am rocking Amaze 4g, a little bulky and heavy but phone feels good in hands, a little smaller and the fact that it too is made out of plastic, doesn't help much, but still a great phone.
Just my opinion.
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Eh, I don't like Samsung phones, and there is always something I don't like from the nexus phones......
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No offence, but since you are saying you don't like samsung phones, what is it that you don't like?? and what is it that you don't like nexus phones? I loved my first google phone, the nexus one, i have used nexus s for a long time, and i do have a galaxy nexus, they are great.
Yet the fact that they come with vanilla, is a choice of your own, whether you like a phone with a custom skin or stock android is your cup of tea... but seriously, what is it that you don't like?
Care to share your thoughts with the community?
Idk... They look boring, they're super lightweight (im clumsy) and I HATED my friend's Vibrant and my coworkers Galaxy S on Sprint. I have never liked samsung phones. TVs are awesome though.
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Idk... They look boring, they're super lightweight (im clumsy) and I HATED my friend's Vibrant and my coworkers Galaxy S on Sprint. I have never liked samsung phones. TVs are awesome though.
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Fair enough...
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Idk... They look boring, they're super lightweight (im clumsy) and I HATED my friend's Vibrant and my coworkers Galaxy S on Sprint. I have never liked samsung phones. TVs are awesome though.
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im with you on this, but.. my brother has the HTC incredible (still one of the best HTC phones made) and since its lightweight its harder for it to break/get damaged. our phones are bricks when it comes to weight lol so it would impact a lot more when dropping
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im with you on this, but.. my brother has the HTC incredible (still one of the best HTC phones made) and since its lightweight its harder for it to break/get damaged. our phones are bricks when it comes to weight lol so it would impact a lot more when dropping
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Off topic, but my friend had the incredible. Loved that phone!!!!
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http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...-wireless-and-us-cellular-services-starting-m
Is it wrong that I feel slightly compelled to return my EvoLTE (got a few days left in my 14) and get the SGS3? With a global launch of nearly identical phones (save for CDMA, frequencies, etc, S4 in the US), it is gonna be a hit phone. I really have very few issues with the EvoLTE besides the goofy multitasking button (for which I installed the mod).
I know the screen is technically inferior, but most who have used SGS3 seem to agree our eyes can't tell.
2GB RAM is REALLY compelling, and I think its going to have a kicking dev community, and no locked bootloader.
Please don't write me off as a troll. I'm not a hater, I like the EvoLTE. I'm just going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years, and feel under pressure to make the right choice.
ill keep my htc. i prefer sense over crappy touchwiz or whatever its called
but if you want it so bad you should get it ^_^
I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
There are great devs here too. For me I'm keeping the Evo.
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Crap radios,weird looking (my opinion),poor build quality,touchwiz,GPS issues ,screenes not as good.I never have a problem with a gig of ram. I just think it isn't necessary... yet anyway.it's gonna be a beast for sure, just don't like Samsung...definitely a matter of opinion .I don't think there will be that much of a difference in performance.
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Horrible radios! i was getting half the speeds of what i do now, voice and data. Never going back to Samsuck
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Why is the SGSIII screen worse than the EVO 4g LTE?
As others have said radios are not good however I guess this will be the true test as far as radios seeing how they are using Qualcomm chip with radio built in... And then we will know if its just their crappy programming or something. Lol also the screen is up to you I have a gn basically same screen as sgsiii and its ok however the sgsiii is slightly better I guess cause of spacing?
Touchwiz isn't good imo and its the same look as it has been HTC at least reinvented the wheel this time around to.make it better in some ways. The extra 100 in batt will help some probably due to the screen. However I have seen many people say and or show up over on the LTE side from the og and other places.
2gigs of ram gimmick IMO I know some people say they have reloading issues when they hit home I haveny had that or anything... Not to mention the iPhone beat the sgsiii in a drop test I want to see EVO LTE in a drop test with it lol. So its all up to you keep man. And what you like better and if you want to bite down on a 35$ restock fee or 70$ restock fee if you.get the gsiii and decide you want EVO back lol.
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I'll be sticking with my LTEvo based on looks alone. The SG3 may beat out the LTE by a hair, but not by much if any. Ive been told the US version SG3 will have the same dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor as the LTE and the only thing it has on the LTE is the 2GB ram. Its a nice phone no doubt but the build quality on the LTE is simply amazing. Im happy with my LTE but im sure the SG3 will just as nice! Its great to have two awesome phones to choose from!
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I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
After owning an EVO Shift then a Nexus S 4G I am sticking with the EVO. The feel of the phone is better and I believe HTC uses better internal parts. I never had reboots at all on my EVO Shift. I had reboots and screen of death frequently on my Nexus.
I also will never own another phone with a pentile screen, no matter what people say I can't see.
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
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this.
I had the Epic 4G Touch since launch and even though I had no problems with the development, it was SLOW to start. it got root fast (that's to zedomax) but everything else came slowly, AOSP came 3-4 months or so after release, everything else was pretty much dominated by one or two devs/teams. Why? Because CDMA came later and is less popular than GSM, and which is global - the International version is GSM and the conversion of roms from GSM to CDMA is more difficult and time consuming than you would think. Rest assured there will be some devs as there always is with galaxy phones but you can't compare it to the amount there are with the International/GSM galaxy phones.
This phone, and however, blew me away with what we have thus far. Why? Because there isn't a "GSM" version to suck most of the great devs away from our development. it's got the best starting development out of all the Sprint devices I've seen(next to the OG EVO, and of course)
Several of the gimmicky features of the S3 are apks that have been leaked already (posted s voice and floating video player in themes&apps section). that said, I there isn't really anything that makes the S3 unique except the 2 gb ram and the HD pentile screen (debatable)
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much.
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
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Actually, Epic Touch had very good developer support.
The samoled hd screen is indeed inferior.
Samsung phones definitely have better build quality, but they are made of plastic, so it's a wash.
Epic Touch had good support from Samsung.
Touchwiz is actually a much better skin than Sense. Especially sense 4, which is a bloatware and a resource hog. One thing you can expect from GS3 for Sprint is that it's going to have stellar software, where everything is hardware accelerated to the max and buttery smooth and fast.
I'm probably gonna keep the evo cause I hate the look of the gs3, but I'm also hoping that we can steal some of their software.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
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I doubt people are going to move from the ET4G, which is less than a year old, to the GS3. I am sure some of themore hard core crowd will but most people are under a contract or are quite happy with their phone. The reason a lot of people are moving to the new EVO is because they were on contract with the OG EVO or are using their last yearly upgrade from the 3D.
The Dev's alone will keep me from keeping my EVO. They made me like my 3D even when I had buyers remorse over the S2. They almost made me not have to buy this phone, thanks to the ONE s Rom. I'm also liking what I'm seeing so far, even though the phone has only been out for a week.
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Screen : research pentile , you'll see people viewing it under a microscope with some criticisms. Shrug.
Development community.. With sprints phone being more or less identical to verizons, I think it'll be at least as good. But for me, I just want a stable cm9, which really only takes a couple good devs. And both phones will have that, so I'll concede a wash.
Gps and radios, good points. Certainly one of the reasons I chose htc after my og epic. But maybe just maybe they got it figured out?
When picking a phone for 2 years, specs are key for me. Think about your computer: twice the ram is significant. Particularly considering the multitasking issues I too have experienced on this phone. Almost no apps truly save their state when you go away from them for a few min. And we'll be hoping both android 5 and 6 go on these generation phones (via Cyanogen probably) so more ram may be significant at that time.
Didn't have any issues with my epic build quality, came to appreciate the plastic even.
Also- isn't the gpu better, or will it be the same as evo in the us models?
Argh
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Yes, that epic touch was built like a tank.
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One more thing. Will Samsung ever make a phone that has a working GPS? I'm still waiting for my girlfriend's GS2 find a "GPS signal"
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