Hi, I am not really now to Android (have been using my Galaxy S2 from Bell for almost three months now). But have just gotten the chance to actually really look into rooting and hence, decided to root and flash my phone with Lite'ning 6.1 ROM.
What I am confused is that, while researching through the forums. I stumbled across many Custom ROMs such as Villain, Lite'ning, etc. What I am currently confused about is regarding Cyanogenmod 7. Is it a custom ROM like Lite'ning and all? or is it like a platform on which these ROMs such as Lite'ning are made on?
Furthermore, while browsing through Market, I found these ICS Theme but they mentioned that CM7 is required and the theme is applied through Theme Chooser App. So I just want to know if I'll be able to run it on my Lite'ning.
Lastly, if someone could be kind enough to post a link or teach me showing on how would I be able to flash back to my stock ROM (already downloaded it), I would greatly appreciate. I have read through the forum and is still confused.
Thank you very much for reading through my post and hoping someone could guide me through this.
I assume you used Odin to flash lightening rom. Same process with stock. Can't post links yet, but look up Intratechs post on official roms. Great guide in there.
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Litening and VillainRom are based off of Samsung's stock roms, meaning Touchwiz and everything Samsung originally included on the phone.
CyanogenMod7 and MIUI are based on AOSP, which is the android open source project. The roms are built from scratch essentially, from original sources given by Google. Any themes or mods that say they require CM7, will require CM7 to be flashed.
CM7 has special features as detailed on http://www.cyanogenmod.com/about/features, whereas Samsung-based roms have their own features like more codecs to play videos, a better camera app, built in screenshot utility, etc. Each has their advantages and disadvantages, so its more preference than anything. CM7 will be cutting-edge, but consequently have more bugs, while Samsung roms are generally the opposite (older but more stable).
poofish said:
Litening and VillainRom are based off of Samsung's stock roms, meaning Touchwiz and everything Samsung originally included on the phone.
CyanogenMod7 and MIUI are based on AOSP, which is the android open source project. The roms are built from scratch essentially, from original sources given by Google. Any themes or mods that say they require CM7, will require CM7 to be flashed.
CM7 has special features as detailed on http://www.cyanogenmod.com/about/features, whereas Samsung-based roms have their own features like more codecs to play videos, a better camera app, built in screenshot utility, etc. Each has their advantages and disadvantages, so its more preference than anything. CM7 will be cutting-edge, but consequently have more bugs, while Samsung roms are generally the opposite (older but more stable).
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Thanks so much for your reply, certainly helped me alot. If you dont mind I have another question. I came across SiyahKernel thing on the board and is confused as to what it actually is. Is is a custom ROM like Lite'ning? or something different. I am asking this because I saw a video on youtube of a demonstration of Galaxy S2 Running Cyanogenmod7 + siyahkernel.
The kernel is something different. Every rom needs a kernel to run. It handles low level stuff.
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So I could install SiyahKernel with Lite'ning? Has anyone done this already?
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So I could install SiyahKernel with Lite'ning? Has anyone done this already?
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Plenty .
jje
For my last clarification.
After I flashed 6.1 Lite'ning Rom on my phone I could see Superuser coming with it. But when i was reading through SiyahKernel I noticed that we need the program called CWM (is ROM Mananger on Market the same thing?) to flash the kernel onto the phone.
So based on my understanding, I just need to download SiyahKernel onto my SD Memory and choose 'Install ROM from SD Card' and select SiyahKernel and that's all right?
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For my last clarification.
After I flashed 6.1 Lite'ning Rom on my phone I could see Superuser coming with it. But when i was reading through SiyahKernel I noticed that we need the program called CWM (is ROM Mananger on Market the same thing?) to flash the kernel onto the phone.
So based on my understanding, I just need to download SiyahKernel onto my SD Memory and choose 'Install ROM from SD Card' and select SiyahKernel and that's all right?
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When they refer to flashing .zips from CWM, they mean ClockWorkMod Recovery. That's usually a recovery system packaged with the kernel, accessible by holding [up volume] + [home button] + [power button] when the phone is off. Then, there will be an option that says 'install zip from sd card.'
In your scenario, I'm not sure whether you have CWM Recovery, but its not necessarily needed. As you can see on the download site (www.gokhanmoral.com), there are links to both TAR and ZIP files.
Download the TAR file and flash it in the PDA section using Odin, the same way you flashed Litening Rom. Simple as that. After that when you try going into recovery mode, you'll see CWM Recovery with tons more options.
Specifically, the main benefit of CWM Recovery is that you can backup your entire phone, which you should do immediately. If anything goes wrong in the future while flashing a new ROM, you can always turn the phone off, restart in recovery mode, and restore that backup (restores the phone exactly to the same point you were at when you did the backup, but doesn't back up the external sd card which shouldn't have been affected anyway). It makes trying new ROMs entirely safe and painless.
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Getting a bit confused about all this, so am wondering if i've got it right. A rom is the whole thing, it includes a kernel and so forth? So a Kernel is a part of the rom right? And you can flash kernels individually without flashing a whole new rom? But what is a firmware then? Just another name of a rom?
Also on the Galaxy S2 can you flash custom roms, like Lite'ning, without getting root first? Or do you need to get root before flashing custom roms? If you can flash custom roms first without rooting, will the custom rom then give you root as long as it includes it?
And you also got recovery, which is a separate thing again? Galaxy S2 comes with a very basic one if i've understood correctly, but there is others out there that you can install, which also gives you the ability of flashing roms straight from the microsd/phone storage?
So have i gotten any of this? Hope am not to far off
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246131 looks like most of my questions where answered there, though am still a bit unsure if it's possible to flash a custom rom before you root?
ROM's and FIRMWARE: The ROM or Read Only Memory is the internal flash memory where the core operating system resides. The Firmware is a device specific part of the ROM that controls various hardware components. So the firmware is contained in the ROM but in the context of Android the terms are often used interchangeably.
KERNELS: Different kernels offer different advantages, some are fast, some are light weight on the battery and some are a mix, so yes you can in most cases flash a different kernel with a ROM, and then your phone will be running the custom ROM you picked with the new kernel you flashed.
Rooting: You must have a rooted phone inorder to flash a custom rom, but rooting in my opinion seems really safe and it really easy to do on the SG2
There are things that allow you to flash from your SD card and you do that by entering clockworkmod revovery, apps like rom manager also allow you to flash from sd card, but you can always use odin, which is safe and fast
hope this helps
Thanks, and very nicely explained =) Another question then, what is the reason one need root before you can flash custom firmwares? As i heard Galaxy S2 doesn't really have any safety measures put in to stop things, like HTC do with their bootloader. Another thing is that i checked the thread for the Lite'ning rom, and saw the installation procedure, and it doesn't mention anything about having root before starting, so am getting a bit confused there.
You don't need to root before flashing a custom ROM as long as you can enter download mode (power up with volume down, home and power button pressed) and can flash the ROM via Odin.
If the ROM is flashable only via ClockWorkMod recovery (a zip that you copy on your phone) then you need to flash something that includes that recovery before flashing the rom (like CF-Root or any kernel that includes CWM).
Lite'ning ROM that you mentioned earlier is flashable via Odin so no problem.
Every ROM includes a Kernel, the only thing they sometimes don't include is the modem like in VillainROM, you have to flash it separately. And also, if a ROM is announced as rooted, when you flash it, you will have root regardless of the state before flashing
Thanks once again =)
Another question, if one want to get back to stock, flashing one of these "official firmwares": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 well revert everything right? Even if i got CWM recovery, after flashing on of those "official firmwares" will give me back the original recovery as well?
Edit: Also you mention "modem", if one ROM don't include one, do you have to flash it separately for the ROM to function at all? Or will it just use the modem that's already on the phone or something? Checked out the VillainROM thread and it doesn't say anything about a modem.
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Another question, if one want to get back to stock, flashing one of these "official firmwares": http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 well revert everything right? Even if i got CWM recovery, after flashing on of those "official firmwares" will give me back the original recovery as well?
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Yes it will revert back everything
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Edit: Also you mention "modem", if one ROM don't include one, do you have to flash it separately for the ROM to function at all? Or will it just use the modem that's already on the phone or something? Checked out the VillainROM thread and it doesn't say anything about a modem.
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If you dont flash a modem it will just use the one you had before. They talk about it in the old thread and also in the new but not in the firsts posts, you'll have to do a search.
Plus Modem Kernels are interchangeable .
KH3 Firmware with KI4 modem and KH1 kernel .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
jje
Hi Comm
I am new to SG-A and Android itself. As far as i can say from using this phone for one month now is:
- It is fast (i don't play games)
- It is practical
- It is just VERY NICE
BUT, there are some negative aspects also:
- Battery runs out very fast (1 - 1,5 days) - WLAN/BT/GPS/GP3/2 are switched on manually only when needed.
- Low internal memory (278 MB)?
So, what do i want to do next?
- I would like to improve Battery life duration, and i hear that other ROMs do safe battery life duration.
- I would like to delete all the Samsung Apps and stuff from the phone
Note: I have tried out an app called "juice defender", but i am far from enthusiastic about it - it switches on and off the 3G network automatically what is very practical, but hangs itself up occasionally.
What have i learned on xda-developers.com yet?
- There are instructions on how to root your mobile, to have admin-privileges
- There are instructions on how to update firmware
- There are different ROM's you can use (like Cyanogen and GingerReal)
And - that there is no BEST ROM, only different ROMs for differents tastes.
What would i like to know from you now?
- Is it for real that other ROMs enhance battery life? (more than like 100%?)
- Would you agree to kick out all Samsung apps? Also to free up some internal memory.
- What ROM would you recommend me? As mentioned, i don't play games. I just need a practical and fast operating system on my phone. I make phone calls, write sms, and occasionally look up information on the Internet Browser. And i would like to enhance battery life somehow.
That Cyanogen ROM sounds promising, but ain't ready to use yet?
Others wrote that the GingerReal ROM is the most used one here for SG-A, so can't be a big mistake to give it a try?
Thank you so much for your recommendations!
BR
dbenx
Yup. Gingerreal is the most stable. Cyanogenmod roms are still beta so for a new user you may wanna explorer stock based roms and mess with Odin and clockworkmod before going into beta roms. Of course, it's personal preference.
Everything is pretty simple. For Gingerreal, just get a 2.3 update, then get clockworkmod, then flash the rom. Follow instructions in the development threads to the letter, you'll be safe and happy.
I have been using the official 2.3.4 rom with CF-Root, and Link2SD to account for the lack of space, and it works amazingly fast.
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Hi guys!
Thanks for your replys so far - that gives me some direction
BR
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Yup. Gingerreal is the most stable. Cyanogenmod roms are still beta so for a new user you may wanna explorer stock based roms and mess with Odin and clockworkmod before going into beta roms. Of course, it's personal preference.
Everything is pretty simple. For Gingerreal, just get a 2.3 update, then get clockworkmod, then flash the rom. Follow instructions in the development threads to the letter, you'll be safe and happy.
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hi, i want to give a try to Gingerreal (i am stuck on KPH), can someone explain me (i'm a newby):
- how to install CWM (the link in the official post is broken)
- if i need to root the device first
- if i need to partition the sd in ext4 before flashing the rom (and how do it)
- if i need to wipe data before flashing the rom
Tnx in advance
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hi, i want to give a try to Gingerreal (i am stuck on KPH), can someone explain me (i'm a newby):
- how to install CWM (the link in the official post is broken)
- if i need to root the device first
- if i need to partition the sd in ext4 before flashing the rom (and how do it)
- if i need to wipe data before flashing the rom
Tnx in advance
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In the GingerReal thread there is a link to another thread which has the clockworkmod recovery. download it, power off, boot into stock recovery by holding home while powering up, then install the zip you downloaded. You get clockworkmod then.
You don't need root. After clockworkmod, download the GingerReal zip and install from sd card.
If you wanna use darktremor app2sd then partition your sd card. Google for that.
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In the GingerReal thread there is a link to another thread which has the clockworkmod recovery. download it, power off, boot into stock recovery by holding home while powering up, then install the zip you downloaded. You get clockworkmod then.
You don't need root. After clockworkmod, download the GingerReal zip and install from sd card.
If you wanna use darktremor app2sd then partition your sd card. Google for that.
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its said about KPH and KPN things..which i know its about a firmware.. if im not on that firmware can i flash GingerReal rom to my phone?
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its said about KPH and KPN things..which i know its about a firmware.. if im not on that firmware can i flash GingerReal rom to my phone?
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The point is to have GingerBread bootloader~ it's tested on that firmware so its good if you flash it~ just to avoid problems~
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its said about KPH and KPN things..which i know its about a firmware.. if im not on that firmware can i flash GingerReal rom to my phone?
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No don't flash it while on an another firmware,flash the firmware to the version stated or you might end up with a bricked galaxy ace.As stated it has been tested on those firmwares and its safe..
try firstUA rom....
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184108
There are a lot of roms out there, which ics rom is the best? Which GB rom is the fastest?
The only one stable enough and with good UI to be usable is this (GB based):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465144
All the rest are eternal alphas with important features not working or just experiments.
Sent from my YP-G70
Not true. I have used GenericGinger for 3 months with maybe 2 crashes total. It's quite stable and fast, and the UI is much better than that one (of course, I use Go Launcher with any ROM), especially because it has an ICS theme (although it says beta, I've had no issues).
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ive tried to flash eyrigit rom's 3.5 version but evrytime i flash it the wifi doesnt work? when i turn on the wifi it just says error?
What rom has 100% working functions?
Sent from N7000 with paranoid 0.1
SirRhor said:
The only one stable enough and with good UI to be usable is this (GB based):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465144
All the rest are eternal alphas with important features not working or just experiments.
Sent from my YP-G70
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I completely agree. I've been testing this rom for a couple weeks and everything works like the stock rom did, if not better. It has awesome features. GenericGinger is also perfectly stable with the ice cream theme and has other features but not as much.
As soon as someone helps to fix the ice cream kernel I'm sure we will have allot more stable roms to choose from.
Newbie Question
Forgive me if this is a dumb question:
Does Eryigit's Custom ROM GingerBread-2.3.6 G70ZCKPA Release 3.5 INCLUDE Entropy's Kernal ??
or must you 1st install Entropy's Kernal BEFORE you install Eryigit's Custom ROM GingerBread-2.3.6 G70ZCKPA Release 3.5 ?
Thanks in advance.
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Forgive me if this is a dumb question:
Does Eryigit's Custom ROM GingerBread-2.3.6 G70ZCKPA Release 3.5 INCLUDE Entropy's Kernal ??
or must you 1st install Entropy's Kernal BEFORE you install Eryigit's Custom ROM GingerBread-2.3.6 G70ZCKPA Release 3.5 ?
Thanks in advance.
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It comes with the kernel. Since you are using entropys kernel im guessing you are from the US meaning your stock is 2.3.x meaning the kernel is the correct format for the rom anyway so if for some strange reason it does not come with the kernel then you will be safe from brick in theory. And you can put entropys kernel on afterwards. You can check to see if it is there by going into cwm and if it isn't there then your on stock kernel (unless you all ready have another kernel on already)
But I am pretty sure that it comes with the kernel in.
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You can't be too careful
Thank you Samwes.
I am from the US with stock SGP5 Model YPG70CWYXXA and I dread the chance of bricking, so I'm doing lots of homework by looking at and trying to understand various postings here.
KIES is working on my Windows PC, so my plan is to root via SuperOneClick and install Eryigit's latest tar file via the latest version of Odin. I read in the install instructions that you are supposed to:
(in Clockwork recovery mod : wipe cache partition ---> OK; Wipe data/factory reset --> OK;
advanced - wipe dalvik cache --> OK; after that install new rom , You must do it , clean installation.)
The stock version does not have Clockwork recovery mod, so do I need to do the Odin install twice? e.g. The 1st install to GET the Clockwork recovery mod feature, then go into Clockwork recovery mod to do the above "wiping", and then repeat the install via Odin again ??
Actually, once you've got Entropy's recovery mod installed, you can just use that to install other roms. Just copy the new rom file over (in a .zip) to your device, boot into recovery mode, and choose the right options. (It's fairly intuitive)
You say you dread the chance of bricking your device; if you're not prepared to accept and live with the possibility of doing so, perhaps terminally, then I suggest you not do it.
What, exactly, do you hope to gain by rooting and flashing a different ROM? Does the stock ROM lack some specific functionality that you want/need, or is it only for experimental purposes?
If you're just looking to gain the experience, then that's a perfectly valid reason to explore the flexibility of Android, but you must be careful in what you do, and realize the consequences of error.
Just do a backup in recovery before you flash..i did not now anything before i flash it and i brick it but people here help me to unbrick it and since then i know how and i flash almost every rom from here for testing.
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Thank you Samwes.
I am from the US with stock SGP5 Model YPG70CWYXXA and I dread the chance of bricking, so I'm doing lots of homework by looking at and trying to understand various postings here.
KIES is working on my Windows PC, so my plan is to root via SuperOneClick and install Eryigit's latest tar file via the latest version of Odin. I read in the install instructions that you are supposed to:
(in Clockwork recovery mod : wipe cache partition ---> OK; Wipe data/factory reset --> OK;
advanced - wipe dalvik cache --> OK; after that install new rom , You must do it , clean installation.)
The stock version does not have Clockwork recovery mod, so do I need to do the Odin install twice? e.g. The 1st install to GET the Clockwork recovery mod feature, then go into Clockwork recovery mod to do the above "wiping", and then repeat the install via Odin again ??
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I bricked my first device months ago because I didn't have any experience flashing stuff, I made a mistake, but now I know better.
Don't be afraid, just try it, but be informed first, now there's a lot more information about anything related to this device.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Yeah I should of researched more I was stupid, when I tried flashing a from with Odin it would work, so I reset the device and then when it rebooted I came up with the picture with the phone and then dots connecting it to a computer and then that didn't work with Odin either, so I was stupid and let the battery run all the way out because I though it would fix it but no. It got hard bricked and it now doesn't turn on. Hope any of you never make the mistake I did, and now I'm trying out a USB jig because I know its charging so there is still chance, if that doesn't work then I will have to take off the back plate and remove the battery and I will go from there, but for now I'm awaiting for my USB jig to arrive, it sucks.....
This is the first time I rooted my phone and I used step 6 on this link in your forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070 . Everything went fine but I then downloaded rom manager and when I select flash clockworkmod it only gives me the choice of choosing the samsung epic4g or the samsung galaxyS i9000. It does not give me the option of choosing the fascinate. I selected the i9000 but stopped there because I figured that I should try to fix this situation and be able to select the fascinate, before I move foward. Please help me move foward so I will be able to put a rom on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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This is the first time I rooted my phone and I used step 6 on this link in your forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070 . Everything went fine but I then downloaded rom manager and when I select flash clockworkmod it only gives me the choice of choosing the samsung epic4g or the samsung galaxyS i9000. It does not give me the option of choosing the fascinate. I selected the i9000 but stopped there because I figured that I should try to fix this situation and be able to select the fascinate, before I move foward. Please help me move foward so I will be able to put a rom on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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rom manager is useless for the fascinate...
I also ran into this issue. If your CWM is not "sticky" (it goes to System Recovery <3e> when you reboot recovery), you must flash the appropriate version of CWM with ODIN before a ROM flash. (CWM ALL.tar for bml roms [anything that is not cm7, MIUI, or ICS] or cwm4_fixed_for_cm7.tar for MTD ROM's [cm7, MIUI, or ICS])
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I also ran into this issue. If your CWM is not "sticky" (it goes to System Recovery <3e> when you reboot recovery), you must flash the appropriate version of CWM with ODIN before a ROM flash. (CWM ALL.tar for bml roms [anything that is not cm7, MIUI, or ICS] or cwm4_fixed_for_cm7.tar for MTD ROM's [cm7, MIUI, or ICS])
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if the op would of followed the guides instructions correctly, he would not of ran into that issue in the first place...
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rom manager is useless for the fascinate...
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But if that's the case, why does Koushik make a ROM for the fascinate and have it available on his site?
(Does the Epic4G simply represent all CDMA phones, and the i9000 GSM? Don't see why that would matter anyway tho)
(I can't post a direct &#% link yet, but it's on his website.
This makes absolutely no sense!? He's got ROMs up there for just about every Android phone on the market, all to be used with ROM Manager.
I wanted to install it via Odin but naturally that would be too simple: it's a zip file and Odin won't recognize anything but tar and 2 others formats.
You can flash any .zip ROM with CWM. There's no need for ROM Manager. BTW, you can post a link if you uncheck "parse links in text automatically."
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But if that's the case, why does Koushik make a ROM for the fascinate and have it available on his site?
(Does the Epic4G simply represent all CDMA phones, and the i9000 GSM? Don't see why that would matter anyway tho)
(I can't post a direct &#% link yet, but it's on his website.
This makes absolutely no sense!? He's got ROMs up there for just about every Android phone on the market, all to be used with ROM Manager.
I wanted to install it via Odin but naturally that would be too simple: it's a zip file and Odin won't recognize anything but tar and 2 others formats.
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all you need to do is boot into cwm recovery via the power menu and flash away. the problem with rom manager on the fascinate is getting into the right recovery...causes more problems than its worth on this device. make sense yet? probably not since you have not been down this road yet, but many of us have. so take the advice given or dont and learn the hard way.
Honestly, I am trying to take the advice given but not all of it fit my situation.
I'm definitely something of a noob to Android (Not to linux or IT though). I've had my phone for all of a month and rooted it only days ago.
It's all starting to come together, finally. It's tricky for a noob because there are so many different versions of the phone hardware, versions of Android, this or that kernel that only works with these ROMs, old/newer versions of those, old posts and advice, newer posts with adjusted advice.. etc.. It's been a week long crash course!
Anyhoo, I couldn't flash/upgrade CWM because it didn't stick from the original Odin install. When I rebooted, I'd always return to the stock <3e> recovery. Even after two more installs of CWM via Odin.
I used the cwm-recovery-all.tar in your guide, Droidstyle. (great job BTW)
I followed the directions in Section 6 to the letter. I even printed it out and highlighted key sections.
So you see, I was in a catch-22; I needed CWM to flash CWM? Odin was my only option at that point.
Then I read on another thread here about renaming the /system/recovery-from-boot.p script, and installing CWM once more.
That worked, so now I can finally boot into CWM recovery like a happy man. (I also tried a more specific version of CWM for good measure: cwm4-bml-i500.tar, not really sure if that made a difference)
So I made my first real nandroid backup last night.
Next on my list is a new kernel. Still deciding between KGB, lean, and whatever else is out there.
I still don't get the whole mess with ROM Manager though. I agree with you, DS, I just don't get why he'd have zips for every phone under the sun but his own app doesn't seem to allow them to be used. It's bizarre. The latest reviews on the market are not flattering either.
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It's tricky for a noob because there are so many different versions of the phone hardware
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You are on the Samsung Fascinate. If it is Verizon then it is model number i500. If it doesnt say Fascinate or i500 it isn't for your device and you don't need to worry about it. If you flash something that isn't stated as being for the i500 or VERIZON Fascinate then you will have a lovely new temporary paper weight.
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Anyhoo, I couldn't flash/upgrade CWM because it didn't stick from the original Odin install. When I rebooted, I'd always return to the stock <3e> recovery. Even after two more installs of CWM via Odin.
I used the cwm-recovery-all.tar in your guide, Droidstyle. (great job BTW)
I followed the directions in Section 6 to the letter. I even printed it out and highlighted key sections.
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You couldn't have followed it to the letter because it is a well known fact that if you boot up with a stock kernel still flashed it will replace your recovery. Droidstyle certainly knows this and certainly accounted for it in his guide. So, you need to either boot directly into CWM or flash a non-stock kernel prior to rebooting the phone.
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Then I read on another thread here about renaming the /system/recovery-from-boot.p script, and installing CWM once more.
That worked, so now I can finally boot into CWM recovery like a happy man. (I also tried a more specific version of CWM for good measure: cwm4-bml-i500.tar, not really sure if that made a difference)
So I made my first real nandroid backup last night.
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Yeah it sounds like that will work...not the most elegant way to take care of it...but it sounds like it would be okay.
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Next on my list is a new kernel. Still deciding between KGB, lean, and whatever else is out there.
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We already talked about the kernel situation. Consider Geewiz if you want something thats all-in-one and pretty much impossible to mess up. KGB is good. Leankernel always gave me the best battery life but YMMV.
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I still don't get the whole mess with ROM Manager though. I agree with you, DS, I just don't get why he'd have zips for every phone under the sun but his own app doesn't seem to allow them to be used. It's bizarre. The latest reviews on the market are not flattering either.
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He showed no interest in helping the devs here get ROM manager working (again) on the phone. If you gave him money, blame him for not providing the support and resources to get it working on this phone. Some people are umm...."lacking in people skills."
Oh, and as great as the Gingerbread ROMs are...the mtd ICS roms blow them out of the water
OK so it started with having a well balanced stock rooted 4.0.1
the main reason i root is for tethering
i had a carrier update that i was hoping was 4.1 cuz i am dying for google now
ran that but got stuck in the boot (as in not a boot loop but just infinite boot)
i would simply like to have my phone back on a stock rooted ROM* preferably ICS
i attempted "solutions" i found on here for using odin to "plop" a stock rooted ROM* on there but it turned out to be Gingerbread -_-
so i am currently dealing with that and what appears to be a stock Bootloader*
*i barely understand all these terms so please let me know i love to learn and i just cant wrap my head around all of it but any tips would be great. as far as i understand the boot loader is like the boot menu on a computer in the bios and is accessed when holding down all three hard buttons and gives you the selection menu, and the ROM is like the OS, and i think flashing is whenever you use odin to install the ROM instead of the boot loader for some reason.
I apologise for the noobieness but this is like the only way i learn...from direct Q&A :/
thank you in advanced
First off, download:
UCLE5 ICS- This is the stock AT&T GS2 ICS and is already rooted.
Fire up Odin, and:
Code:
Put UCLE5_Stock_Rooted.tar in the PDA slot in Odin.
Reboot your phone.
Oh and, a ROM is sort of a firmware that runs atop a kernel. Usually ROMs and kernels are put in ZIP files for flashing via ClockworkMod Recovery, but in specific cases (such as with Samsung), you can flash them via Odin or Heimdall in .tar formats.
Basically an Android phone needs both a ROM and kernel in order to run. From my very limited knowledge, a kernel is what controls overclocking and other processor related tasks. It also can help define the keylayouts for this particular device. It also contains the system recovery. A ROM holds all the system framework files that arguably makes the phone what it is to the average user. There are many ROMs that are available, such as Touchwiz (Stock/Modded Samsung), AOSP (Stock/Modded Android), Miui (Based off of either Samsung or AOSP, sort of it's own thing).
EDIT: Also, don't be sorry! Feel free to ask questions (as long as you've searched already), and remember that everyone starts somewhere.
We understand that you're new but please attempt to search your problem. Also, 4.0.1 does not and has never existed for our device so I don't know where you got that. Everything else though is easily found on Google, I don't buy that "I need spoonfeeding" line for a second.
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PM me and I can give you further instructions if you still can't figure it out.
Hey thanks for your response!
I haven't had the time to try it out just yet (super busy lately) but as soon as i get the chance i will leave a reply as to how it goes.
Also thanks for the explanation. That really helps. I have always wanted to get more into the android field to learn more about the devices i'm using every day.
Ps: The reason for the apologetic sorry is to stand as a polite understanding tone from people who frequent the forums and discourage new posts while assuming no research has been done. i have searched for a good two hours but finding something relevant enough that i would be comfortable progressing through is very difficult and as i mentioned earlier i do learn better from direct Q&A. Thank you for understanding.
~Killubear
estabien said:
First off, download:
UCLE5 ICS- This is the stock AT&T GS2 ICS and is already rooted.
Fire up Odin, and:
Code:
Put UCLE5_Stock_Rooted.tar in the PDA slot in Odin.
Reboot your phone.
Oh and, a ROM is sort of a firmware that runs atop a kernel. Usually ROMs and kernels are put in ZIP files for flashing via ClockworkMod Recovery, but in specific cases (such as with Samsung), you can flash them via Odin or Heimdall in .tar formats.
Basically an Android phone needs both a ROM and kernel in order to run. From my very limited knowledge, a kernel is what controls overclocking and other processor related tasks. It also can help define the keylayouts for this particular device. It also contains the system recovery. A ROM holds all the system framework files that arguably makes the phone what it is to the average user. There are many ROMs that are available, such as Touchwiz (Stock/Modded Samsung), AOSP (Stock/Modded Android), Miui (Based off of either Samsung or AOSP, sort of it's own thing).
EDIT: Also, don't be sorry! Feel free to ask questions (as long as you've searched already), and remember that everyone starts somewhere.
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