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Itching for a new phone soon, and not happy with Sprint lately, their billing can be whacky, I get a different priced bill every month, even though I am on unlimited, and I have to call Sprint every month to straighten it out.
Plus I am worried that with the recent phone they just showcased yesterday, it is a total turd, and afraid what direction Sprint is even heading ? Will there be an EVO2, no real strong rumors on that yet, just worried the future of Sprint.
Would love to see "Myn's" ROM from the EVO or something close to it come out for the Thunderbolt too. And what about battery life on the Thunderbolt, will be it just as bad as the EVO, due to having both 3G + 4G Radios ? And lastly will LTE be good in Chicago area, better speeds than 4G on Sprint ?
Thanks.
It kind of is as LTE is suppose to be a bit faster than WiMax, plus the lower spectrum is uses, means it can work indoor, and between buildings better.
The processor is also faster due to being 2nd gen. If its like the g2 it will overclockable to up to 2ghz
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Thanks for replies, I will wait a bit.
#1 see if Sprint gives a good indication of an EVO-2 this Summer, should know in March with the big phone show, if it leaks out there. Would hate to ditch the EVO, for the Thunderbolt, then few months later an even better phones comes out in the EVO 2.
#2, By the end of March, the Thunderbolt will be rooted and hopefully have a nice ROM available.
EVO 2 is far from a rumor, though the summer release may not happen. The Dual Core processor + WiMax chipset is giving them help right now. Now to answer your question, the Thunderbolt is definitely an upgrade from the EVO in every way, but it's a battery hog as well. I wouldn't recommend using LTE, if you don't really have to, unless it's for a quick download.
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EVO 2 is far from a rumor, though the summer release may not happen. The Dual Core processor + WiMax chipset is giving them help right now. Now to answer your question, the Thunderbolt is definitely an upgrade from the EVO in every way, but it's a battery hog as well. I wouldn't recommend using LTE, if you don't really have to, unless it's for a quick download.
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I'm not sure how it's going to work yet, but I didn't think we had a choice whether it would be in 3g mode or 4g?
Yeah, same way with the EVO. You'll notice a little lag, when you're switching from lte to wifi, and vice versa.
Yeah I don't think LTE will function like WiMAX at all. Aside from the marketing label "4G" they have pretty much nothing in common.
LTE and wimax aren't even remotely similar. LTE stacks up impressively.
LTE stands for Long Term Evolution, so it will continue to get better with age.
LTE also sports a robust core, and has typically no loss of packets and 20ms latency when switching towers. The network utilizes advanced versions of Node B devices, which are just more capable modules than there predecessors (there are two per tower for LTE standard, and have greater bandwidth handling, as well as continuing support for legacy devices and 3g). LTE doesn't need line of sight, and tolerates MIMO antenna technology on clients.
Unlike Wimax, LTE is true 4G.
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LTE and wimax aren't even remotely similar. LTE stacks up impressively.
LTE stands for Long Term Evolution, so it will continue to get better with age.
LTE also sports a robust core, and has typically no loss of packets and 20ms latency when switching towers. The network utilizes advanced versions of Node B devices, which are just more capable modules than there predecessors (there are two per tower for LTE standard, and have greater bandwidth handling, as well as continuing support for legacy devices and 3g). LTE doesn't need line of sight, and tolerates MIMO antenna technology on clients.
Unlike Wimax, LTE is true 4G.
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So you're saying it is better then WiMax?
Thank you for the explanation...
Much better than WImax
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So you're saying it is better then WiMax?
Thank you for the explanation...
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its WAY better apparently
and also The TB is capable of SVDO which means it wont switch to 1X every time you text and Talking and data at the same time as well
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its WAY better apparently
and also The TB is capable of SVDO which means it wont switch to 1X every time you text and Talking and data at the same time as well
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Yea can't wait to try out the talking and data at the same time, not that I have ever really found a need for it, but hey if you got it...
I have heard that the voice quality will suffer some when using data at the same time which is why VZW isn't promoting it. Don't know how much the quality will degrade or if I will even be able to tell, I'm not much of an audio hound so I don't usually hear drops in quality that much.
Besides them both having a 4.3" screen and kickstand they are completely different devices. It is honestly annoying to constantly hear people compare them due to the aesthetic design similarities.
The ThunderBolt has a unibody aluminum design and great build quality. As others have stated, the ThunderBolt also uses the newest generation of Qualcomm Snapdragon CPUs. This 1GHz CPU is not the same as the older generation used in the EVO, it is an entirely different beast. The latest Snapdragons are more efficient and the clock speed being the same means nothing.
The TB also has more RAM than the EVO, Verizon 4G LTE (not WiMAX), and Dolby Audio onboard behind the kickstand. Finally, the TB includes a 32GB microSD card preinstalled.
Any other comparisons simply boil down to looks and similar design style. The devices themselves are not the same.
Let's not forget DLNA. I think it's a great feature that will future-proof the Tbolt for awhile.
ahh...so glad I didn't know about this phone sooner, as I'd have been dying while waiting...I just started checkin the phone forums a week or so ago for the first time since last fall due to finding out about a surprise upgrade on our account due the end of january..this week or 2 wait sucks, I cant imagine finding out about this months ago...
There's a video comparison of the TB and Evo on Wirefly.com. The TB is roughly 2x faster than the Evo.
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Let's not forget DLNA. I think it's a great feature that will future-proof the Tbolt for awhile.
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DLNA is on the DroidX also.
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The ThunderBolt has a unibody aluminum design
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I have heard this stated here and on other forums. I heard it in one of the video reviews (maybe the unboxing one). However, I have seen no substantiation of this. There are 3 reasons why I doubt is it actually unibody. 1 From the limited views inside the device it does not appear to be. 2. It clearly has a thin plastic back cover. 3. It would be a fairly radical design and manufacturing departure for HTC. It certainly would be a cool Apple-ish feature. I'm keen for some further evidence of this. Let us know if you have anything.
It's not an evo, why can't people get that throw their heads. Just because it has a 4.3in screen, froyo, and and made by htc people think it's an Evo. If using want to compare it to something compare it to the Desire HD maybe. Evo was not even the first 4.3in htc phone that was the hd2. The Evo a great piece of hardware and still is but the htc thunderbolt is something fresh in my opinion. The tb only shares 3 things with the evo screen size, os, and manufacture. I personally loved the evo it, for its size, speed, and functionality. I have my htc thunderbolt pre ordered.
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I picked up the atrix to replace my failing original droid almost a month ago. The AT&T service has been, meh okay, the phone has had a few bugs but otherwise works well and has serious potential to be really awesome. luckily i can still go back to verizon within my return policy on the atrix.
what's your opinion, should I jump back to verizon for the thunderbolt?
reasons to:
Verizon network, true 4G
HTC phone therefor cyanogenmod will get ported to it
atrix locked / signed bootloader not allowing cyanogenmod (okay, one reason there)
reasons not to
t-bold has weaker cpu
potentially horrible battery life
larger size phone (love the 4" qHD screen on the atrix) - atrix is higher resolution
thoughts?
How much more time do you have to decide? I would wait to see what the battery life is like if you can; common sense says there's a strong possibility it will be awful (especially with 4g).
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i picked up the atrix on launch day, i think that was the 21st or so, since feb only had 28 days, i should have till the 23rd.
good idea... battery life aside, thoughts?
i had debated for a while before the atrix came out on whether or not to get the tbolt or the atrix. i was actually on at&t at the time but decided to switch to verizon (got a droid x off of craigslist so i still have an upgrade available) and wait for the tbolt. i decided against the atrix primarily when i read about at&t disabling HSPUA on "4g" devices like the atrix and the inspire. i thought it was ludacrious that first of all at&t's 4G which is actually hspa+ (or 3.5G) wasn't reporting that much faster speeds than 3G and furthermore was actually limited by the company from reaching top speeds. it's sad that they are finally making efforts after being slammed by the better business bureau on this charade.
so if you are looking for a faster network like you had said it would be a good move to switch to verizon, at&t could improve their "4G" but it still wouldn't be as good as verizon's lte, IMO.
other factors than network, i'd stick with the atrix if you purchased those docks since it is the only phone that works with them (however, i am assuming that docks aren't a factor since you are keeping the option to return the phone).
i do think that the screen would be better on the atrix but that doesn't mean that the tbolt has some crappy screen, it'll still be very vibrant and pleasing. the screen wasn't a huge factor for me as much as specs and usability. specs are stronger with the dual-core atrix, but i've read a bunch that dual-core for the most part isn't necessary on smartphones yet and there are very few games/apps that actually utilize both cores. i believe that the dual-core power on the atrix is only there to support the docks designed for it, and without the docks it's not that big a deal.
i am currently on a droid x with verizon and have it rooted and customized how i like, and since roms like cyanogen are a plus for you it seems that you would appreciate the tbolt's rootability and customization more than the atrix's locked down bootloader.
tbolt has a better camera (8MP vs. atrix's 5MP) so +1 for that. they both have front-facing cameras.
tbolt has kickstand, some may see it as a gimmick but there are times i've watched things on my droid x and thought "man, a kickstand would be super-useful right now"
another point for verizon's network is that 4g/lte is starting with unlimited data plans, while i'm pretty sure at&t kept the tiered caps from 3g.
atrix has that fingerprint scanner which is only as useful as you want it to be. so meh.
as a previous poster mentioned the tbolt battery is an unknown factor since it is the first phone on LTE, and atrix comes with that monster battery which i think is somewhat limited by having to run dual-cores.
size was a factor for me too as i wasn't sure that i wanted a huge device in my pocket all the time but having had the droid x for a few weeks and its 4.3 inch screen, it's not so bad and i got used to it pretty easily (although i did have a blackberry bold 9000 before which was slightly bulky so maybe i'm not the best judge on size).
tbolt comes with 32GB sd card which is nice.
so there you have it, reasons why both phones can be good/bad but i think the tbolt wins strong points for being unlimited on verizon LTE, which is supposed to have awesome speeds.
Title says it all . Just thought I would set a poll to see where everyone is headed now that the specs have leaked and there are hands on videos surfacing the web.
omg, another post about this?? (although I did vote 'no')
How can I vote using XDA app?
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Menu > Browser
That will take you to the thread you are looking at, but in the browser.
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I hate to admit it as I was very much against switching, but I will be trying the new phone. 4 of my friends are also getting it and we geek out a good bit with our phones so I'm gonna test the waters. Luckily I know that if it's not exactly as I want it to be, I'll now have another 30 days to go back and get my beloved GSII.
No LTE in my city so why change?
No. Really don't see a reason to.
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That phone is too dang big for my dainty hands!
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That phone is too dang big for my dainty hands!
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This is funny reading it on a note!
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Just a heads up to everyone. AT&T Direct Corp stores will have the Skyrocket on sale for $149.99 starting Sunday. This price is good only at their stores, dealers will be the standard $249.99 pricing on a 2yr contract. Verified by 3 sources (2 prev managers I worked with) and 1 random local store.
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Just a heads up to everyone. AT&T Direct Corp stores will have the Skyrocket on sale for $149.99 starting Sunday. This price is good only at their stores, dealers will be the standard $249.99 pricing on a 2yr contract. Verified by 3 sources (2 prev managers I worked with) and 1 random local store.
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Thanks for this, though it seems odd that they would have a sale on a new release like that.
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Thanks for this, though it seems odd that they would have a sale on a new release like that.
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Agreed. They used the verbiage, 'initial launch window' which leads me to believe they're doing this to lure people directly into their stores initially. Not sure how long but it definitely won't be the permanent price. If I can get any more solid info or source material, I'll update - but no promises.
Is that in all markets, or just LTE markets?
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Is that in all markets, or just LTE markets?
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The last rep I talked with said nationwide. The info I got from my local stores and contacts are all close by and not in a current or soon-to-be LTE market.
I am suprised that after the official specs came out that everyone is still going to switch......I wasn't going to anyway, but now I feel even better about my decision.....well bon voyage fellas....and good luck with your new phone.
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That phone is too dang big for my dainty hands!
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That's my issues with it.
1. I just got the sga2 and the size of it is perfect. When I hold it in my right hand I can very easily swipe down the notifications or if I am typing with it is my ritgh hand and using my thumb I can do it easily and fairly accurately. With a bigger screen I don't know it will fit as nicely, in fact I am pretty sure it wont. I have the bionic and it drives me crazy because it so big and the thunderbolt is the same way.
2. Rom development learning curve. When the lye came out for Verizon there was a tremendous amount of issues ans bugs with data switching from 4g to 3g and half the time you were left without any data. It will not be as easy for the devs to make Roms or even port them because for some it will be a new concept. Right now we have a few great roms to choose from. When the sga2 is out it will be a while until there is a any Roms. If anything I will wait until the last couple of days of my return period which is about 22 days from now, to see the progress of development, before I think of switching. Like I said the screen size is an issue for me. If it doesn't fit as nice as this phone then I definitely wont switch.
3. Battery life- even though the skyrkt has a bigger battery the battery life will be significantly less than what we got. All lte devices have shirty battery life, bionic, thunderbolt etc. I know this because I own them and as you can see which phone I favor because I am writing this post frlm it. The sga2 is by far the best phone out there, tried them all. Any deviation from this phone could possibly make it no longer "the perfect phone". I have not tried the phone yet so at this point I am just assuming, or speculating.
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That's my issues with it.
1. I just got the sga2 and the size of it is perfect. When I hold it in my right hand I can very easily swipe down the notifications or if I am typing with it is my ritgh hand and using my thumb I can do it easily and fairly accurately. With a bigger screen I don't know it will fit as nicely, in fact I am pretty sure it wont. I have the bionic and it drives me crazy because it so big and the thunderbolt is the same way.
2. Rom development learning curve. When the lye came out for Verizon there was a tremendous amount of issues ans bugs with data switching from 4g to 3g and half the time you were left without any data. It will not be as easy for the devs to make Roms or even port them because for some it will be a new concept. Right now we have a few great roms to choose from. When the sga2 is out it will be a while until there is a any Roms. If anything I will wait until the last couple of days of my return period which is about 22 days from now, to see the progress of development, before I think of switching. Like I said the screen size is an issue for me. If it doesn't fit as nice as this phone then I definitely wont switch.
3. Battery life- even though the skyrkt has a bigger battery the battery life will be significantly less than what we got. All lte devices have shirty battery life, bionic, thunderbolt etc. I know this because I own them and as you can see which phone I favor because I am writing this post frlm it. The sga2 is by far the best phone out there, tried them all. Any deviation from this phone could possibly make it no longer "the perfect phone". I have not tried the phone yet so at this point I am just assuming, or speculating.
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Comparing Verizon's LTE phones to att lte phones is that both are different in terms the phones. To my understanding that Verizon's phones has 2 radios one for their cdma aka 3G network and the other for lte where Att will only have one except their lte is going to be more then likely a different band but since lte is gsm, should not need another radio. So trying to compare verizon's lte to 3g switch off is not going to be the same as att lte which from what I have been reading about will be running on 700 and 1700 mhz bands which is probably why att will not have as many problems as verizon since att currently uses for their Hspa *3G* and Hspa+ *4G as marketed* runs off 850 and 1900 mhz bands, so building an lte radio to run quad band should not be an issue and then running a quad band for 2G should not be an issue in the same radio where Verizon's 3G network as they call it is cdma and their lte network should be running off of 700 mhz and 1700 mhz as well as falls back to cdma. The issue I can see happening with att is the 3G/4G/LTE back to Edge aka 2G will cause dropped calls and slow data or no data, like it does from hspa/hspa+ back to Edge. My sgs2 has been proven otherwise but it still can happen because the handoff is not perfect.
I am not sure if battery life is going to take a serious hit as I do not have lte in my area at the moment with att but what would have been nice to test the skyrocket compared to the og sgs2 if both were running the same cpu, that would be the true test. A good test would be the T-mobile sgs2 versus the skyrocket, that would be a way to see if the battery life takes a hit since both phones are similar in specs.
HTH,
Charlie
I had a snapdragon in my Sony Xperia. It was a good starter phone. I am very happy with my Galaxy S II. No need yo upgrade to something less.
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Comparing Verizon's LTE phones to att lte phones is that both are different in terms the phones. To my understanding that Verizon's phones has 2 radios one for their cdma aka 3G network and the other for lte where Att will only have one except their lte is going to be more then likely a different band but since lte is gsm, should not need another radio. So trying to compare verizon's lte to 3g switch off is not going to be the same as att lte which from what I have been reading about will be running on 700 and 1700 mhz bands which is probably why att will not have as many problems as verizon since att currently uses for their Hspa *3G* and Hspa+ *4G as marketed* runs off 850 and 1900 mhz bands, so building an lte radio to run quad band should not be an issue and then running a quad band for 2G should not be an issue in the same radio where Verizon's 3G network as they call it is cdma and their lte network should be running off of 700 mhz and 1700 mhz as well as falls back to cdma. The issue I can see happening with att is the 3G/4G/LTE back to Edge aka 2G will cause dropped calls and slow data or no data, like it does from hspa/hspa+ back to Edge. My sgs2 has been proven otherwise but it still can happen because the handoff is not perfect.
I am not sure if battery life is going to take a serious hit as I do not have lte in my area at the moment with att but what would have been nice to test the skyrocket compared to the og sgs2 if both were running the same cpu, that would be the true test. A good test would be the T-mobile sgs2 versus the skyrocket, that would be a way to see if the battery life takes a hit since both phones are similar in specs.
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Charlie
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I did not know that about the radios. Good to know
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I think skyrocket is running a Qualcomm SoC, not good choice compared to Exynos.
Hello all!
I've been reading through this forum and wanted to ask you all a few questions.
First, let me start by saying I have been to a local ATT store and played with the Note. I found it to be a perfect fit in my hand. The screen size and resolution is flat out amazing. I also looked at the specs and found them to be on par with most devices these days. However, I have read that the processor in the ATT version is a Snapdragon with an okay GPU chip...any thoughts? The internal storage is 16GB and up to 32GB external (although in this forum, I have seen it as high as 64GB)...good to go as well. No default notification indicator...boo, but not a deal breaker and an app can fix that. I also have read that the camera is okay, but can be tweaked to make it better.
Next, I am not new to tweaking my devices...actually, I love too! I read, read, read everything and usually don't have any problems. I am definitely a power/advanced user and do much more then text and check email. I use devices to fullest extent as possible.
I am not asking you all to tell me to buy this device or switch networks, but instead I'm asking you all for real world answers. So here are my questions.
1. Looking through the forums, I saw about 3 solid custom ROMs and several stock rooted ROMs. My question is, do you all have a solid base for development? I also saw that there is no AOSP CM7 ROM for this device either...is that correct? With ICS expected on this device soon, will there be development (the international version has ICS already I believe)? I'm rocking the OG HTC EVO 4G and development is rock solid...even with the device about to turn 2yrs old (6/4/12)...so development is a huge deal for me.
2. Okay, Sprint doesn't have the best network and 4G/WiMax is a total joke. When I was at the local ATT store, I ran several speed tests on the display Note (using ATT's LTE) and was floored by the down/up speeds! My question is how is battery life with it connected to LTE all the time AND using the crap out of it. I ask this, because with my EVO, I very rarely use 4G/WiMax. We can turn it on/off at will thru settings or a widget. Also, I always connect to my WiFi at home. It looks like on the Note via a custom ROM, turning LTE on/off is controlled through the build.prop...is this correct? I keep chargers around, but just curious.
3. I don't use this feature that often, but it's always good to have...tethering. With my EVO, most if not all custom ROMs have the ability to tether (USB or wireless) baked in. So what are the options with the Note? I have never paid for this feature and don't intend to either.
4. I haven't peeked into the theme section yet, but I'm sure there are themes for this device...right?
Edit- Late addition question...kernels. I use OC/UV/SBC kernels on my EVO...so what is the current state of kernels with this device?
Before I end this dissertation, I want to say this forum seems to be more mature...always a good thing. Also, I have several device choices to consider, but I am strongly considering getting away from CDMA carriers and join the rest of the world on GSM...not TMo, been there done that. I'm on the fence with getting this device or waiting for the HTC One X version or the GNex coming to ATT and Sprint (if I decide to stay). I'm just doing some research to make a very good decision.
Oh and thanks for posting the price from Fryers...$199 is much better than $299 !
Thanks in advance to all that answer and Android rocks!!
I owned the Evo 4G before moving to the Evo 3D and after that the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon.
If the size of the screen is not that attractive enough for you to sway you from the One X or the Galaxy Nexus then I would advise you wait for the Galaxy S3. The S3 (rumors of course) is shaping out to be superior to any of those devices.
As for your actual first question, yes the ATT and the International version of the Note have two different processors. At the time, Samsung's Exynos cpu in the Int Note did not have a LTE chip compatible with our LTE spectrum here in the states. So they switched to the Snapdragon chip for ATT. Yes the snapdragon performs less than the Int counterpart but chances are you will see no difference in real world use.
1. Development for this phone is still in its early stages. Coming from the EVO I can tell you development like that is the exception, not the rule. There are tons of the phones and only the most popular phones get the same attention. The phone came out a little over a month ago.
Also this phone will never be at the same level of popularity as some of the other ATT phones (S2 for example). CM9 is being worked on now for the Note. Maybe we might have a taste of it a month or so.
2. ATT has a better network compared to Sprint. HSPA+ is more than enough to beat Sprint's 3G and WiMax to the floor. One of the advantages is the fact you can talk on the phone while surfing the web or look up directions ect. Battery life is actually superior in respect to CDMA LTE devices. Since all radios are on the same chip you save battery life. You can turn off LTE when not in a LTE area but there are no noticeable impacts on battery life.
3. If you would like to use tethering all you have to do is freeze and apk (tethering manager I believe) and that's it. You can tether as you please.
4. There are a couple of themes for the different roms that exist. Also themes are proportional to the number of roms. Keep in mind themes are different for Samsung phones. There are no themes in apk form. All themes must be flashed.
Huge thanks for taking the time to respond. I played with the Note again today and I was able to one hand text and navigate around with ease. I'm sure I will end up switching to ATT for a GSM device. I was at Best Buy and they would not honor Fry's price...I plan to check with a local ATT store next.
I plan on buying a new device after 5/3 (my contract with Sprint ends), so I plan on watching for the S3 as well. If anyone else wants to chime in, please feel free. Again, thanks for your well written response!
How do you turn off LTE?
Just a question for anyone who ever used a hspa+ device. How fast is if compared to LTE in your experience? I've been extremely unhappy with sprint so far and don't see myself with them after this year so I want to know how fast the networks on aa&T or t–mobile are compared to it. Is it a lot slower?
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Just a question for anyone who ever used a hspa+ device. How fast is if compared to LTE in your experience? I've been extremely unhappy with sprint so far and don't see myself with them after this year so I want to know how fast the networks on aa&T or t–mobile are compared to it. Is it a lot slower?
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I'm came from T-Mo and think they are by far the worst major carrier out there. I had a G2x and got 9mbps down once (in Kansas City) and never more than 1mbps up. My LTE results have been around 11-12 down and 6-11 up so far, but certainly difficult to find. I left T-Mo mainly because I spent 50 hours/week in a major metro area with zero coverage. I'm sure it varies by area and personal experiences of course, but I'm patient enough to wait out the full LTE roll-out.
I've never had AT&T so I can't comment on them.
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Just a question for anyone who ever used a hspa+ device. How fast is if compared to LTE in your experience? I've been extremely unhappy with sprint so far and don't see myself with them after this year so I want to know how fast the networks on aa&T or t–mobile are compared to it. Is it a lot slower?
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The 3G network is terrible at the moment, mostly because of the "Network Vision" which includes adding LTE and "improving" 3G. It will get better (a lot better actually) but it will take some time.
HSPA+ isn't really "4G". It's kinda like 3.5G lol. LTE in theory should be faster up and down.
I know it depends on where you live I just wanted a little comparison. Odds are I will get LTE before the end of the year so I don't want to go from something incredibly fast to super slow. If it's like half the speed I can deal with it.
HSPA is quite fast in the iteration that tmobile uses, but its also not as efficient with its use of spectrum as LTE is, making it a spectrum hog.
One company I consult for provides T-Mobile phones for employees. The Galaxy S2s they have regularly get 15-20Meg down, 2-5Meg up. This is in Plano, TX.
Considering today us the first time I've gotten LTE on my EVO LTE, and the best I could get was 8/8 (up/down), speed on HSPA+ is currently better.
I am pretty sure on AT&T if the phone is LTE it is also HSPA+........but don't quote me on that