Nc area. Speeds have took a serious drive. Only at like 3am my speeds are descent.
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I get 5-6 on average and 9-10 at like 1 am
Me too. But what do I get during the day, when u actually use your phone. Something has changed. Is sprint throttling bandwidth?
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I get 5-6 on average and 9-10 at like 1 am
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Where in NC are you b/c here in south raleigh they blow. i get MAX PEEK at like 4-5am and thats only about 0.8Mbps, and then by 9-10am the speeds drop off to roughly 0.25Mbps. I've seen many many times that by 4pm they drop off to 0.04Mbps. this of course is on 3G.
When i spoke to one of the techs on their forum he looked up and actually spoke with the Raleigh/Durham network market manager who said "switch upgrades scheduled for this weekend, BSC migrations, and optimization changes are scheduled to all take place by November 3. Site level solutions are in the pipeline with an ETA of 12/31 for noticeable market improvement"
Thanks for the update!!! I'm closer to the knightville area. I was really thinking about changing carriers but ill wait to after 12/31..
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I work in downtown Raleigh and 3g speeds have dropped significantly since last year. It can be unbearable at times.
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I'm at fort bragg and my speeds haven't changed much they have been a steady .3. I take trips up to chapple hill quite often and the 4g there is a steady 8megs and peaks at 10megs. But that's with speed test i still load YouTube faster than ATT and Verizon phones.
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I forget the 3D is a sprint phone mostly in the states
you guys make it sound like sprint has ever had fast 3G speeds, its always been well below other carriers and well below 1mbps
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you guys make it sound like sprint has ever had fast 3G speeds, its always been well below other carriers and well below 1mbps
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I get around 800-1.2 sometimes higher... but no 4g... and I live in a town of 60k so its not well "developed" but getting better than T-Mobile in my area
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I think the point has been well made (its always been bad). Their 3G network has been way way over sold. The decrease in speed lately is likely due to increased traffic of the holiday season. Also as it gets colder in all parts of the country more people spend more time in doors and the network gets even more use. Obviously as it gets later at night/early morning you see speeds increase slightly because less traffic.
This isn't something you will see get drastically better until many people are moved onto the LTE network, with very wide coverage, and a huge percentage of users have hardware capable of accessing that LTE network. This of course is if the LTE upgrade actually happens the way they say it will. People can say "oh it will work, you will see" all they want. That's great if it does, but don't count on everything working out the way they say it will. Hope it does, but don't count on it. It is highly dependent on third party funding, third party building up the network, not going bankrupt, their partners and investors not having funding problems, FCC approval, etc. All it takes for this to turn out like Wimax is for anyone of those things to go wrong.
Sprint has made the same promises with the same conditions they had when they tried to roll out Wimax. Clear had financial trouble, and the whole roll out stopped completely.
Well.. my 3G has always been between 2.0 - 2.5MB. My slowness until a few months ago. Some users say they are throttling because of the number of iPhone users. Don't know..
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I'm in Garner NC and I get decent speeds usually .78mbps download on 3g I can't pull more than 1mbps until late night. On 4G i can get around 2-4 download and 1 to 1.6 upload.
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Thats not true, as of a few years ago sprint customers on average got higher 3g speeds than all the other carriers but since then everyone else has upgraded their networks while sprint has been on a steady decline.
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I think the point has been well made (its always been bad). Their 3G network has been way way over sold. The decrease in speed lately is likely due to increased traffic of the holiday season. Also as it gets colder in all parts of the country more people spend more time in doors and the network gets even more use. Obviously as it gets later at night/early morning you see speeds increase slightly because less traffic.
This isn't something you will see get drastically better until many people are moved onto the LTE network, with very wide coverage, and a huge percentage of users have hardware capable of accessing that LTE network. This of course is if the LTE upgrade actually happens the way they say it will. People can say "oh it will work, you will see" all they want. That's great if it does, but don't count on everything working out the way they say it will. Hope it does, but don't count on it. It is highly dependent on third party funding, third party building up the network, not going bankrupt, their partners and investors not having funding problems, FCC approval, etc. All it takes for this to turn out like Wimax is for anyone of those things to go wrong.
Sprint has made the same promises with the same conditions they had when they tried to roll out Wimax. Clear had financial trouble, and the whole roll out stopped completely.
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While most of what you say is true here the part about it not getting better till LTE is not likely true. Sprint has oversold their network but from what I've been told they are having to increase the switch capacity at the towers as they all bottleneck there on top of adding more T1 lines to.the stations. I was shown via email a screen shot of the work approved to add T1 line to my tower here and the guy said I had no idea how bad of a problem it is now, and they finally after all these years of seeing this happen are starting to get around to fixing it.
Just know come 2015 stuff here will be all good and most being complete by 2013. The thing I'm more mad about with sprint is the premier program going away.
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While most of what you say is true here the part about it not getting better till LTE is not likely true. Sprint has oversold their network but from what I've been told they are having to increase the switch capacity at the towers as they all bottleneck there on top of adding more T1 lines to.the stations. I was shown via email a screen shot of the work approved to add T1 line to my tower here and the guy said I had no idea how bad of a problem it is now, and they finally after all these years of seeing this happen are starting to get around to fixing it.
Just know come 2015 stuff here will be all good and most being complete by 2013. The thing I'm more mad about with sprint is the premier program going away.
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I definitely agree with the premier opinion. Using a T1 line to improve performance, that's a terrible idea in my opinion. I hope you were misinformed about that part, because in todays age using a T1 line from tower to backbone would be creating a bottleneck in and of itself. While a full T1 has bandwidth on its side it doesn't have throughput speed on its side. A full T1 has a mere 1.44mbit of throughput. That's a huge handicap. Todays' RESIDENTIAL coaxial cable lines are being fed by fiber optics and the throughput speed has effectively no technical limitations. We are seeing both DSL and cable at people's homes running at 50mbit, and as equipment keeps getting upgraded raising that number almost twice a year for Pennies cost of the ISP. So both the bandwidth and throughput of DSL and cable have far out preformed T1 lines and far cheaper to run and maintain.
Sprint has OC 192 lines for the backbone, and in many places have upgraded to OC 768. We are talking Terabits per second at the backbone level. 3G is capable of double or more throughput than T1's measly 1.44mbit, so that T1 just ends up creating bottle necks. If sprint was real cheap they wouldn't even be using full T1, but fractional and that 1.44 mbit gets cut into pieces. So....I really hope their solution to the bottle necks are not T1. If you were in fact correct, we basically won't ever see fast 3G
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I definitely agree with the premier opinion. Using a T1 line to improve performance, that's a terrible idea in my opinion. I hope you were misinformed about that part, because in todays age using a T1 line from tower to backbone would be creating a bottleneck in and of itself. While a full T1 has bandwidth on its side it doesn't have throughput speed on its side. A full T1 has a mere 1.44mbit of throughput. That's a huge handicap. Todays' RESIDENTIAL coaxial cable lines are being fed by fiber optics and the throughput speed has effectively no technical limitations. We are seeing both DSL and cable at people's homes running at 50mbit, and as equipment keeps getting upgraded raising that number almost twice a year for Pennies cost of the ISP. So both the bandwidth and throughput of DSL and cable have far out preformed T1 lines and far cheaper to run and maintain.
Sprint has OC 192 lines for the backbone, and in many places have upgraded to OC 768. We are talking Terabits per second at the backbone level. 3G is capable of double or more throughput than T1's measly 1.44mbit, so that T1 just ends up creating bottle necks. If sprint was real cheap they wouldn't even be using full T1, but fractional and that 1.44 mbit gets cut into pieces. So....I really hope their solution to the bottle necks are not T1. If you were in fact correct, we basically won't ever see fast 3G
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I'll double check my emails tomorrow as it did sound wired to me for them to be running T1 lines into the towers. He said most are adding more T1 lines in to boost capacity and all.
Like i said i thought it was wired bc my previous work hell we ran DS3 connection...
Edit:double checked and it is a T1 line for voice and another T1 for EVDO capacity because my tower near my home is overflooded like most are evidently. This is also aside from the actual switch upgrades he said were planned soon too. All of this has zero to do with the network vision rollout unfortunately for me. Lol
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I'll double check my emails tomorrow as it did sound wired to me for them to be running T1 lines into the towers. He said most are adding more T1 lines in to boost capacity and all.
Like i said i thought it was wired bc my previous work hell we ran DS3 connection...
Edit:double checked and it is a T1 line for voice and another T1 for EVDO capacity because my tower near my home is overflooded like most are evidently. This is also aside from the actual switch upgrades he said were planned soon too. All of this has zero to do with the network vision rollout unfortunately for me. Lol
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Ugh dude....this terrifies me. I hope he is trying to say they are adding more T1 lines. I think there is a way to combine multiple T1 lines to one tower. I'm not an expert on T1 lines, because that technology is getting very old (50+ years). T1 and T3 are the same thing. Basically T3 is just multiple T1 channels multiplexed, so you get close to 50 times the throughput. Even still there are so many cheaper alternatives I have no idea why they would choose this topology. Now, hopefully what they are really doing if they are using the technology is using many many T1 lines and multiplying the channels. However even a T5 only gets around 400 mbit. Again something like cable fed by fiber would be capable of that. I don't honestly have the expertise to guess whether it has enough bandwidth to keep speed high for 100+ people.
I just don't know enough to understand why they are doing it this way. Even if they were really using T3 it just wouldn't have enough bandwidth to hold very many people at high speed. Anymore than what they already have anyway. Someone with more knowledge needs to explain this to me.
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Ugh dude....this terrifies me. I hope he is trying to say they are adding more T1 lines. I think there is a way to combine multiple T1 lines to one tower. I'm not an expert on T1 lines, because that technology is getting very old (50+ years). T1 and T3 are the same thing. Basically T3 is just multiple T1 channels multiplexed, so you get close to 50 times the throughput. Even still there are so many cheaper alternatives I have no idea why they would choose this topology. Now, hopefully what they are really doing if they are using the technology is using many many T1 lines and multiplying the channels. However even a T5 only gets around 400 mbit. Again something like cable fed by fiber would be capable of that. I don't honestly have the expertise to guess whether it has enough bandwidth to keep speed high for 100+ people.
I just don't know enough to understand why they are doing it this way. Even if they were really using T3 it just wouldn't have enough bandwidth to hold very many people at high speed. Anymore than what they already have anyway. Someone with more knowledge needs to explain this to me.
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Yea obv its adding more T1 lines. Not saying they are running their first line to the tower.
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I currently have the EVO (great phone) but I have trouble using the 4G (WIMAX), I live in a 4G area that doesn't have 4G, lol and and work I have a lot of concrete around, so 4G doesn't work there either, so I'm wondering if I should try the TB 4G on LTE, I use 3g at work no problem but its still too slow. I hardly never have the 4G turned on my EVO which Im kinda upset about, so far WIMAX has really kinda sucked. Does anyone have experience with both radios? and do you think LTE might penetrate the concrete at my work?
It should do better. The way i understand it, higher frequencies (Wimax being 2.5 -3.5 GHz range) are more easily deflected. Like a bouncing ball.
LTE runs at 700 MHz and does penetrate better. Like a dodgeball.
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I currently have the EVO (great phone) but I have trouble using the 4G (WIMAX), I live in a 4G area that doesn't have 4G, lol and and work I have a lot of concrete around, so 4G doesn't work there either, so I'm wondering if I should try the TB 4G on LTE, I use 3g at work no problem but its still too slow. I hardly never have the 4G turned on my EVO which Im kinda upset about, so far WIMAX has really kinda sucked. Does anyone have experience with both radios? and do you think LTE might penetrate the concrete at my work?
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Nobody can really say because we don't have a LTE phone yet. You might want to test one when they come out.
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Nobody can really say because we don't have a LTE phone yet. You might want to test one when they come out.
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Thanks I will try it and ill keep my fingers crossed.
LTE will penetrate buildings better than WiMAX. The question is whether your specific spot is in good coverage and only you can test that.
I've been ordering 4G LTE usb modems for my company's new hires and had one of the other IT guys do some bandwidth tests. (I ordered one of his new hires the 4G modem and he promptly had me switch it into his name and gave his new hire his old 3G model). Anyway, he got 4.55 Mb/s down and 3.13 Mb/s up compared to 1.75 Mb/s down and 0.53 Mb/s up on his 3G modem. This was in NYC. Indoors, but with good reception. This is very fast indeed.
LTE is vastly superior to wimax. I can write more details out later, but you can put your faith in it.
Worked on the infrastructure!
Quite simply, Wimax sucks. I can only get it downtown. I can get it for thirty seconds at my job and I can't get it at all in my home. I can't even get it if I step outside. Sprint has really dug a hole for themselves tacking on 10 dollars under the title of "Premium Data." They later tacked on a premium data charge for all smartphones; they would have been better off simply saying that they were raising prices to offset the costs of being able to provide unlimited data... These things led to Sprint having record lows on their quarterly report. Having a new Nintendo DS-like non-4G enabled phone isn't gonna help their sales much more... Making the decision to switch to Verizon to get the Thunderbolt because I will be able to get the best service. In my neighborhood, Verizon is the only carrier that gets full bars and doesn't drop calls. They charge a lot but you can't say that you don't get what you pay for. I'm certain that Verizon's LTE will be superior to Wimax. Verizon is all about having services and devices that are superior to their competition.
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Quite simply, Wimax sucks. I can only get it downtown. I can get it for thirty seconds at my job and I can't get it at all in my home. I can't even get it if I step outside. Sprint has really dug a hole for themselves tacking on 10 dollars under the title of "Premium Data." They later tacked on a premium data charge for all smartphones; they would have been better off simply saying that they were raising prices to offset the costs of being able to provide unlimited data... These things led to Sprint having record lows on their quarterly report. Having a new Nintendo DS-like non-4G enabled phone isn't gonna help their sales much more... I making the decision to switch to Verizon to get the Thunderbolt because I will be able to get the best service. In my neighborhood, Verizon is the only carrier that gets full bars and doesn't drop calls. They charge a lot but you can't say that you don't get what you pay for. I'm certain that Verizon's LTE will be superior to Wimax. Verizon is all about having services and devices that are superior to their competition.
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Well said. The thunderbolt/Verizon is definitely ahead of the curve at this moment, and probably will be through 2011.
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LTE will penetrate buildings better than WiMAX. The question is whether your specific spot is in good coverage and only you can test that.
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Technically, its the frequency being used (700mhz vs 2.5ghz), rather than the technology (LTE vs WiMax).
Higher frequency (2.5ghz) can't travel as far (so you need more towers per square mile), and has a harder time penetrating solid objects compared to lower frequencies (700mhz).
Did anyone see this on bgr?
http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/17/atts-...ound-to-be-nations-fastest-wireless-services/
They basically say Sprint lags behind everyone in 3G and 4G. I personally get really good 3G speeds (>1mbps), and 4G when I can get it but it is not at my house or work. Just in between. Not wanting to be a whiner. I feel like when Sprint rolls out LTE and Network Vision everywhere we'll be back. I'm rather happy with my wireless data, but it seems we are right now missing out on a lot.
My 3g speeds are just pathetic now. They used to be decent, like in the 800 plus range at work. Now I'm lucky if I pull 100kbps. Plus I always drop in and out and even go to roaming sometimes. Please hurry up the roll out sprint.
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You guys have it made.I cant even browse facebook most days.Thats why I call it
"Sprint - The (i hope you dont need it right) Now Network.
This isn't anything new. They suck I give them 1 year. I like them a lot, just need to get their **** in order. The only reason I let them slide is price and I'm on wifi 20 hours of the day
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Sprint DOES lag behind on network speeds. Even with the upgrades they've done in my area. Things have improved, but I don't think they're anything to brag about. Even 4G wimax when I have a strong signal is pitiful. There are times I feel 4G wimax is like AT&T or T-Mobile 3G. I don't complain, really, because it's fast enough for me to get by. But... congrats on taking the red pill and waking up
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This isn't anything new. They suck I give them 1 year. I like them a lot, just need to get their **** in order. The only reason I let them slide is price and I'm on wifi 20 hours of the day
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I kind of feel like this also. In a year or so from now, I expect to have fast LTE and good 3G as a backup. If that is not the case I may go elsewhere. Allthough I hate to lose unlimited data and the other perks of being with sprint.
my 3g and now 4g speeds are pretty pathetic. 3g is 100k most of the time except in the evenings when the towers are so overloaded it drops to 1x or 3g will just timeout on everything and 4g is now down to anywhere between 200k and 500k during the evening and 1.5-2mb during the rest of the time. yet sprint continues to say theres no problems in the area lol.
This is definitely not news. My Sprint service has sucked for a while now.
I'm roaming often, and when I'm not roaming the signal is weak. When I'm lucky enough to get a good signal, 3G is still slower than dial up speeds, and 4G is slower than Verizon's 3G.
Sprint is in real trouble if they don't fix this. The only reason I am still with them is because I really do like my Evo 3D. No other carrier has a comparable phone, and I'm stuck in a contract anyway.
If Verizon got a Samsung Galaxy S 3D, I'd probably break my contract with Sprint to go to Verizon.
Who cares about unlimited data if it's practically unusable in most real world scenarios?
My city isn't even on the list of future LTE markets yet either, so I'm not holding my breath for that. I do have Wimax, but it's pretty crappy.
Sprint has totally fell off. I remember a few years ago when Sprint used to consistently be first or second in these data speed comparisons. Now I would have been shocked if they weren't picked last. And I'm sure most Sprint customers would have also been shocked if Sprint was anything but last in this most recent comparison.
Sprint has got more and more expensive over the years, and the service has got worse and worse. Not a very good outlook for the future at all.
does anybody really think sprint lte will be fast? why do they not assume it will be similar to Wimax speeds?
sprint has 3g but nobody assumes it is as fast as the competition.
rude awakening! you will be unsatisfied with lte speeds and then you will realize that Wimax wasn't the problem, SPRINT is the problem
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This isn't anything new. They suck I give them 1 year. I like them a lot, just need to get their **** in order. The only reason I let them slide is price and I'm on wifi 20 hours of the day
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as soon as there network is upgraded... they will morph right into verizon's evil twin. price, and everything. just watch.
the only thing keeping them from not charging an ass load of money is that they are being outperformed in network capability in a lot of areas. i am fortunate to live in an area with very good 4g and 3g, so i can't complain. but man i sure feel your guys' pain with the slow network ****. that would be frustrating. it's like paying for wifi and your wifi is never working or never running fast.
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as soon as there network is upgraded... they will morph right into verizon's evil twin. price, and everything. just watch.
the only thing keeping them from not charging an ass load of money is that they are being outperformed in network capability in a lot of areas. i am fortunate to live in an area with very good 4g and 3g, so i can't complain. but man i sure feel your guys' pain with the slow network ****. that would be frustrating. it's like paying for wifi and your wifi is never working or never running fast.
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They already aren't that much cheaper than Verizon anymore. I think last time I checked Sprint was like $5 a month cheaper or something like that. And that wasn't even factoring all the nickel and dime fees Sprint puts on there.
The only thing Sprint has on Verizon these days is unlimited data. The price isn't a big enough difference to really be a factor. And the unlimited data isn't really a factor (to me at least) if it's too slow to use. Sprint's just lucky their network went to **** after they already had me locked into a contract. And even then, I'd have probably left if I could get a phone comparable to the Evo 3D on another network.
Sprint did the same thing that AT&T when they got the iPhone...they didn't anticipate all the traffic on their network thus not preparing for it. I am holding out though. By the end of the year, a lot of us will have a great network to go with the unlimited data. And will be better than all the others.
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The problem with these anecdotal tests is they mean very little in your town. When I worked downtown, Sprint was 800kbps. Not blazing, but amazing compared to AT&Ts 20kbps or Verizons 50.
Different side of town? Sprint is 100 and not very useful. And if I drive 3 minutes away I'm getting 1100.
The best thing to do is do a speed test and get people on other carriers to do them right next to you
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The problem with these anecdotal tests is they mean very little in your town. When I worked downtown, Sprint was 800kbps. Not blazing, but amazing compared to AT&Ts 20kbps or Verizons 50.
Different side of town? Sprint is 100 and not very useful. And if I drive 3 minutes away I'm getting 1100.
The best thing to do is do a speed test and get people on other carriers to do them right next to you
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Yup true I did the 4g against Verizon test he hit 11mbps I hit 10mbps the only difference was ping his was 58 while mines was 101
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The problem with these anecdotal tests is they mean very little in your town. When I worked downtown, Sprint was 800kbps. Not blazing, but amazing compared to AT&Ts 20kbps or Verizons 50.
Different side of town? Sprint is 100 and not very useful. And if I drive 3 minutes away I'm getting 1100.
The best thing to do is do a speed test and get people on other carriers to do them right next to you
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thats true, if i head to the **** side of town i can get good 3g speeds but no 4g lol. or if im around a sprint store they make sure the towers are working perfect. just some observations ive experienced here in san antonio. hell around my parents house half the time i get network busy when trying to make a call. sprint says theres no problems that the network is working as it should haha. they get all pissed when i ask them so for 200+ a month im not supposed to beable to make a phone call and have data speeds that are so ****ty it basically turns my phone into a cool looking paper weight.
I get 900kbps to burst speeds of 1.5mbps most days. Just heard from a couple of sources that I'm getting 4g in a month or two
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Didnt check 3g as Im always on 4g but you guys are right. 3g slowed down for me too. Used to get 1000+kbps now down to 700kpbs.
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Didnt check 3g as Im always on 4g but you guys are right. 3g slowed down for me too. Used to get 1000+kbps now down to 700kpbs.
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Yeah mine slowed down too I used to get 10 kbps now I get 5 kbps.
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Yeah mine slowed down too I used to get 10 kbps now I get 5 kbps.
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lol, your speeds are like mine
I'm lucky if I get 300kbps in my home area. Luckily, I found out they took down the closest tower in light of the fact of upgrading the others to network vision and haven't yet...so I complained. Until then...it's non-stop bill credits. I'm making them pay for the lack of service. I ask what I get over someone with a $50/mon prepay plan other than the fancy phone I bought...the answer? Nadda.
Pisses me off that we'll have to get new phones again to take advantage of the 4G LTE. Thanks a lot.
so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
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but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
I'm getting about 60 down/up, although I was on my og evo too...
It'll be nice once we get the 3g tweaks in roms
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For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
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For me it was just the tower closest to my house that sucks. At work I am getting 1800/900
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Mine is that way as well close to home speeds suck at work they are good lol. either place doesn't matter to much as both have WiFi but it sucks when I'm driving around soon tho soon all will be better....
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so sprint has always been kinda sluggish near me with my evo 4g. i would think my 3g speeds would get a little faster on the 4g lte. i ran about 10 tests and the max i got was..
278 download
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but that was kinda a random spike in it because all the other test are like 100 download and 100 up
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If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
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If the network is ****ty why would the phone change that?
Just saying.
I pre-ordered from wirefly but since i'm not scheduled to have LTE until later this year I'm debating if I should cancel my order since I would be stuck with only 3G speeds which suck in most places on Sprint. We need roam only like never before.
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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Me either, just common sense.
While a better antenna may help I wouldn't expect to see drastic improvements.
Sprint 3G is just plain crap right now, in most locations anyway.
Surprisingly at work I get over 2megs down sometimes, nowhere else though.
I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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My point exactly. I got slightly better speeds with the Photon over the Evo 3D but it seems some people are expecting to see dramatic improvements.
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I am getting slightly better speeds than my EVO3D when using speed test, web sites and other pieces open much quicker though although I think that is a combination of things including just being a more powerful phone.
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I am seeing the same.
Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
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Yeah, in Louisville KY Sprint's service is seriously abysmal. Our city is large and relatively spread out, and the towers that are here are just totally overloaded. Data speeds are slow,coverage is unreliable, connections are frequently dropped. This has literally been happening for years now, and it has only gotten worse.
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As much as I hate to say this..here in North Houston, the speeds are BAD. I would also be remiss if I didn't mention that I'd never gotten as many dropped or failed 3G connections on my OG Evo as I'm getting with this phone. Could be b/c NV is working itself out..but it's quite frustrating to watch the 3G signal keep disappearing and reappearing.
Because of that, I started fiddling with some old settings and found a way to boost SIGNAL strength but not 3G speeds..see link below and hopefully someone can figure something out..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26549367#post26549367
I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
Tokynet said:
I was searching the forums for info on this... but I feel my EVO got slower after I rooted it...
I don't remember experiencing this when I rooted my first EVO (non lte).
Anyone else seen this?
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to be honest rooting your phone has nothing to do with your 3g connection ect... it dont efect it in anyway..
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That's what we are trying to figure out. There are people saying the new evo has better 3g speeds maybe due to a new antenna design or something. The phone named after a fruit is supposed to do better on sprints junky 3g network also. ( i don't wish to called a troll). Think about it, on certain types of other devices,a better antenna can make difference. Can this help on a phone also? I just use a phone and am not an engineer.
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The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
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The phone with the fruit doesn't have faster 3G speeds. It does have a higher priority on Sprint's cell sites, so if a router has a lot of traffic, the fruit phone gets higher priority, so it seems like their antenna is working better, but in reality it's not that much different.
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That is not even remotely true. If you feel the need to argue it, throw written proof in your reply.
I love the EVO LTE but the 3G speeds I'm experiencing are abysmal. I can get a carrier pigeon to move this fast. Pathetic Sprint, just pathetic...
And your question is? you posted this in the Q&A
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And your question is? you posted this in the Q&A
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How do I get a decent speed?
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Everyone knew or should of known before getting the phone that lte was not up yet and you would be on the 3G network.
If your sales person didn't tell you this then I would take it up with your salesperson. If you bought the phone online then sorry about your luck, lesson learned. ( Hopefully )
Either way don't knock Sprint for something they have made clear. It was never stated to have 4G WiMax. Only 3G and lte when available.
Better speed.....wait for lte.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672123
here is another link from a quick search
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/boost-the-speed-of-your-evos-3g-and-get-your-music-faster/
Hope that helps some
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Everyone knew or should of known before getting the phone that lte was not up yet and you would be on the 3G network.
If your sales person didn't tell you this then I would take it up with your salesperson. If you bought the phone online then sorry about your luck, lesson learned. ( Hopefully )
Either way don't knock Sprint for something they have made clear. It was never stated to have 4G WiMax. Only 3G and lte when available.
Better speed.....wait for lte.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672123
here is another link from a quick search
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/boost-the-speed-of-your-evos-3g-and-get-your-music-faster/
Hope that helps some
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that is abysmal for 3G speeds I think was his point. Everyone is anxiously awaiting for network vision/LTE so we no longer have to deal with Sprints horrific 3G network
browning said:
How do I get a decent speed?
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You brought the EVO LTE thinking you might get decent 3g speeds? I'm sure you're smarter then that or am I giving you to much credit? This is an old subject we should be discussed somewhere else.
I completely knew what I was getting. However, I did not expect slower 3G than I had with the OF EVO. Nor .MMS that don't download. LTE will be here soon but I'd like just a but of utility out of 3G...
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All you guys complaining about 3g speed ever heard of the Network Vision?
BE PATIENT. Sprint is in the process of improving their entire network. You may not see the improvements yet, but trust me they are working on it.
I live in Aurora, CO and there are two towers here that are as opposite as night and day. One is totally bogged down and speeds are 200 kbps Down and 200 kbps Up with 400 ping. About 3 miles away, another tower gives me 1200 kbps down and 800 kbps up with 100 ping.
They are working on it, just have patience.
bighuta said:
All you guys complaining about 3g speed ever heard of the Network Vision?
BE PATIENT. Sprint is in the process of improving their entire network. You may not see the improvements yet, but trust me they are working on it.
I live in Aurora, CO and there are two towers here that are as opposite as night and day. One is totally bogged down and speeds are 200 kbps Down and 200 kbps Up with 400 ping. About 3 miles away, another tower gives me 1200 kbps down and 800 kbps up with 100 ping.
They are working on it, just have patience.
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I've been patient with Sprint for over 12 years. I get that it is coming. The point is 3G is worse now than it was with the OG. And this is with new towers on 3G in the area. Simply pathetic especially considering I work and live next to a major international airport and large technology corridor.
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Push *2
Dial
Update PRL
Repeat (i had to do two updates)
Speedtest again. Betcha ur speed is way better.
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Push *2
Dial
Update PRL
Repeat (i had to do two updates)
Speedtest again. Betcha ur speed is way better.
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I've updated each PRL released. No better...
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OP: well, if you're so upset about current 3g speeds and aren't willing to wait a little more, then please feel free to hop over to verizon or ever ATT. No one's stopping you.
Good luck, have fun.
bighuta said:
OP: well, if you're so upset about current 3g speeds and aren't willing to wait a little more, then please feel free to hop over to verizon or ever ATT. No one's stopping you.
Good luck, have fun.
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I like Sprint. The whole point is speeds seem worse with the EVOLTE than on the old device. It is either an issue with the EVOLTE or the network is getting worse rather than better.
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The problem is that most people, including myself actually have better 3G speeds with the newer radio technology on the LTE compared to older generation smartphones.
Refer to this thread for more opinions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671214
bighuta said:
The problem is that most people, including myself actually have better 3G speeds with the newer radio technology on the LTE compared to older generation smartphones.
Refer to this thread for more opinions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671214
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That's what I don't get. I have read how people are doing better yet I'm about as bad as it can get in almost every area I try.
browning said:
That's what I don't get. I have read how people are doing better yet I'm about as bad as it can get in almost every area I try.
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You could always call the Sprint direct customer service line, 877-775-4886, and make a formal complaint about said speeds. See if they can give you some freebies if not some information regarding the Network Vision roll-out in your local area. Who knows, they might throw in some credit or something.
bighuta said:
You could always call the Sprint direct customer service line, 877-775-4886, and make a formal complaint about said speeds. See if they can give you some freebies if not some information regarding the Network Vision roll-out in your local area. Who knows, they might throw in some credit or something.
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That might be my best bet. I was cool with 3G on the OG - hardly ever used WiMax since it was so spotty. I am simply at a loss for how this is playing out when everyone else seems to be having much better luck.
My 3g speeds are about the same as they were on my og evo, and most of the time they suck. The part that really sucks for me is that I might notice that my speeds are really slow and run a speed test, and confirm it, then an hour, or day later, the speed might be flying.
As an example, I just ran a speed test because it seemed slow, I got 203 kbps down and 506 kbps up. Yesterday I noticed it seemed faster than normal, so I did a speed test from my desk at work, the same location as the test I just did today. I got 2389 kbps down and 925 kbps up, by far the fastest I have ever seen it here.
At home I rarely see speeds over 100 kbps, yet just the other day I got about 1000 kbps down there. The bottom line for me is, I wouldn't care if the speeds weren't great if they were just consistent. It sucks when I need to do something quick and the data connection is crawling, which is the case more often than not.
I had a problem right out of the box. My ping was over 800 and was getting under 100 down. Weird thing wad that up was at like 300. I had this problem with my 3# so I called sprint and asked for my msl. Enter ##72786#. Enter your msl and then go to menu reset. It will reactivate. My speeds went up to over 1000. Worth a shot for u guys. Interesting sidenote... When I called in the tech told me to power down the phone and remove the battery. I let him know that these phones don't have removable batteries. Amazing that some techs don't even know about their flagship devices...
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brandonb8 said:
I had a problem right out of the box. My ping was over 800 and was getting under 100 down. Weird thing wad that up was at like 300. I had this problem with my 3# so I called sprint and asked for my msl. Enter ##72786#. Enter your msl and then go to menu reset. It will reactivate. My speeds went up to over 1000. Worth a shot for u guys. Interesting sidenote... When I called in the tech told me to power down the phone and remove the battery. I let him know that these phones don't have removable batteries. Amazing that some techs don't even know about their flagship devices...
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I ran that and updated profile and PRL again and I see some improvement. Sprint acknowledged an outage but it sounds like it covers Baltimore, DC and VA which doesn't narrow much for me. It is also off peak hours so we'll see how it works tomorrow. Regardless, thanks for the code.
I searched the forums and didn't see a post like this......
So I have talked to a couple representatives from T-Mobile and it has been confirmed that T-Mobile will be acquiring LTE service sometime next year. One rep told me next spring, the other one told me they don't know.
So I'm just going to wait until the day T-Mobile gets LTE then use my upgrade on an LTE phone.
I honestly can't wait!
Have you ever heard of the concept of diminishing returns? At some point increasing the speed of data will give an increase of experience that is so tiny that you won't notice it.. the biggest bottleneck in our data speed is the app that we use to access that data, and the system itself.
With a few build.prop tweaks I consistently get over 18mbs download and 3mbs upload - how much faster can it get? Will a page loading .03 a second faster at higher speeds be worth the battery drain of TRUE lte? Unless the browsing app and the system itself get better, faster data speeds won't do anything you're gonna notice - it is 99.9999999% hype to sell you a new phone or service.
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Silentbtdeadly said:
Have you ever heard of the concept of diminishing returns? At some point increasing the speed of data will give an increase of experience that is so tiny that you won't notice it.. the biggest bottleneck in our data speed is the app that we use to access that data, and the system itself.
With a few build.prop tweaks I consistently get over 18mbs download and 3mbs upload - how much faster can it get? Will a page loading .03 a second faster at higher speeds be worth the battery drain of TRUE lte? Unless the browsing app and the system itself get better, faster data speeds won't do anything you're gonna notice - it is 99.9999999% hype to sell you a new phone or service.
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I understand what you mean, but if the speeds are higher, then theoretically, they would be able to support more users.
Look at it this way. You have a water hose that is 1 inch in diameter, and you have a splitter that splits the hose 4 ways. On the 4 ends, the rate of flow would be lower than if it was just 1 end. This is our current 4G service.
And now, the LTE. A hose that is 3 inches in diameter. Now, it can split it 4 ways, and get about 3x more performance in each hose (Which as you mentioned, is probably unnecessary, since we probably wouldn't notice the difference)... OR you could split it 12 ways and you would get the same performance with 1 inch hose that was only split 4 ways. It now can support 3x more hoses, while delivering the same amount of throughput.
It's not always about speed
At this point I really don't care for LTE specially if it drains my battery faster then what my current juice sucking Amaze does. I do think it's all hype at this point. Also I've been wondering weather I really need a juice sucking tripe/quad CPU on my cell.
There is only so much you can do on a cell phone before its over kill. At the moment I have to carefully manage my 4G, Cell phone signal, WIFI, Bluetooth, Air Plane mode, and have a few well placed chargers at home, car and work just to get through the day with my cell.
I'm not sure what I'm going to doing with a Quad Core or Tegra processor cell phone if I got one. Unless I was playing games on my cell phone which is not that great since it doesn't have a physical keyboard a la Xperia play or Droid 2.
I guess that if you watch a lot of videos online the extra speed might be a plus but then again the screen is kind of small and it would kill the battery quick. Right now even a quick game of angry birds or Zombies vs plants zaps the battery life. I guess that if you tether your cell phone and watch videos on a laptop or a tablet then maybe I can see the positive of having LTE.
I wish T-mobile would instead expand their coverage. At my job they have internal antennas throughout the whole campus for Verizon and AT&T, Metro PCS, Sprint. I asked one of the IT project managers if T-mobile would ever get in on the game and add their hardware so that we could have a better T-mobile signal. He laughed at me and said that T-Mobile doesn't play nice and there was no chance. Good thing we have WIFI at work and I use grooveIP and Google voice as my main communication tools.
At this time I'm more then happy with my Amaze 4G speeds. It seems to be about as fast as my home WIFI. It's definitely faster then work WIFI.
I would much rather see improved battery technology and a better screen. I guess I would have to try out LTE just to see if it was worth it but I highly doubt it. Heck right now seeing full bars on my cell is a big plus and cause for celebration.
A note from a AT&T user:
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Lte reminds me of another acronym: cai which stands for cold air intake.
Yes while lte (and somewhat I have read it's not even true lte???) May be faster on paper, I can tell you its barely noticeable.
Just like a cai, you may be technically gaining a few horses but you won't notice it. I honestly see very little difference between lte and hspa . If any thing else the speed is very inconsistent which attributes to minimal notability in speed.
And after reading how it's not even true lte I am convinced it's just b.s.
Has anyone noticed how call quality has stayed the same for the past 5 years or so?
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rustyxj6 said:
At this point I really don't care for LTE specially if it drains my battery faster then what my current juice sucking Amaze does. I do think it's all hype at this point. Also I've been wondering weather I really need a juice sucking tripe/quad CPU on my cell.
There is only so much you can do on a cell phone before its over kill. At the moment I have to carefully manage my 4G, Cell phone signal, WIFI, Bluetooth, Air Plane mode, and have a few well placed chargers at home, car and work just to get through the day with my cell.
I'm not sure what I'm going to doing with a Quad Core or Tegra processor cell phone if I got one. Unless I was playing games on my cell phone which is not that great since it doesn't have a physical keyboard a la Xperia play or Droid 2.
I guess that if you watch a lot of videos online the extra speed might be a plus but then again the screen is kind of small and it would kill the battery quick. Right now even a quick game of angry birds or Zombies vs plants zaps the battery life. I guess that if you tether your cell phone and watch videos on a laptop or a tablet then maybe I can see the positive of having LTE.
I wish T-mobile would instead expand their coverage. At my job they have internal antennas throughout the whole campus for Verizon and AT&T, Metro PCS, Sprint. I asked one of the IT project managers if T-mobile would ever get in on the game and add their hardware so that we could have a better T-mobile signal. He laughed at me and said that T-Mobile doesn't play nice and there was no chance. Good thing we have WIFI at work and I use grooveIP and Google voice as my main communication tools.
At this time I'm more then happy with my Amaze 4G speeds. It seems to be about as fast as my home WIFI. It's definitely faster then work WIFI.
I would much rather see improved battery technology and a better screen. I guess I would have to try out LTE just to see if it was worth it but I highly doubt it. Heck right now seeing full bars on my cell is a big plus and cause for celebration.
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Ah, but with quad core, you can be in control, and the way it handles processes is more efficient anyways.. and technically there are five cores, and that fifth smaller core can really help make things more efficient.
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LTE sounds nice and I thought the same about 4G neither which are running where I live. I still have to rely on Edge(2G) for my data. AT&T, Sprint, nor Verizon have their LTE/4G services where I live. So T-mobile can say all they want about their network but that won't be selling me any phones anytime soon.
I think T-mobile should focus on strengthening their signal and offering better speeds in all areas before going LTE. In my recent trip to Florida I basically had to stand in one corner of one room of the house I was staying at to get one bar. I ended up just using my BIL's WIFI the entire time. My MIL has an AT&T old school phone and had fine signal everywhere in the house. It was the same way in the parks.... service going in and out constantly while I saw other ppl on their phones just fine. Not to mention that while I am at work I get 2G at best whilst my AT&T coworkers get 4G. One co-worker just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and said he cannot believe the speed difference. I love T-mobile's customer care, and I have had a great experience with them so I hate to leave but if the signal doesn't improve soon I'm going to be forced to make the switch.
rachelm920 said:
I think T-mobile should focus on strengthening their signal and offering better speeds in all areas before going LTE. In my recent trip to Florida I basically had to stand in one corner of one room of the house I was staying at to get one bar. I ended up just using my BIL's WIFI the entire time. My MIL has an AT&T old school phone and had fine signal everywhere in the house. It was the same way in the parks.... service going in and out constantly while I saw other ppl on their phones just fine. Not to mention that while I am at work I get 2G at best whilst my AT&T coworkers get 4G. One co-worker just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and said he cannot believe the speed difference. I love T-mobile's customer care, and I have had a great experience with them so I hate to leave but if the signal doesn't improve soon I'm going to be forced to make the switch.
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Yeah I also am more concerned with consistent service. Where I live I can get anywhere from 10kbs, yes kbs down, and pretty much nothing up. To about 5mbs down. But about 7 miles from here I get consistent speeds of 28mbs down I'd much prefer that being the norm since that's plenty fast. I'm told the technology that everyone is hoping to move to is more economically sound and should save the user money theoretically. Now whether the companies will pass that savings to us... Who knows. But I'd much rather get service where I currently don't. And data where I only have service like when I camp certain areas
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Also rather see them increase signal with Hspa+ rather than make the LTE switch. I am already getting craptastic battery life and my service is so spotty! I currently have 4G where I work at outside, but I walk 50 yards rather outside or inside the building I get full bars of EDGE. Always a good signal, just completely different speeds.
Have a friend on Verizon and he has an LTE phone and his speeds off the network are crazy fast, but it isn't like off the wall crazy different when I am in a strong 4G area. I have hit mid 20's download and almost 4 upload.
Marketing at its finest IMO.
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I searched the forums and didn't see a post like this......
So I have talked to a couple representatives from T-Mobile and it has been confirmed that T-Mobile will be acquiring LTE service sometime next year. One rep told me next spring, the other one told me they don't know.
So I'm just going to wait until the day T-Mobile gets LTE then use my upgrade on an LTE phone.
I honestly can't wait!
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While lte will eventually take over hspa+ is more than sufficient and in my case here in San Diego it's faster.
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Keylogger_0 said:
I understand what you mean, but if the speeds are higher, then theoretically, they would be able to support more users.
Look at it this way. You have a water hose that is 1 inch in diameter, and you have a splitter that splits the hose 4 ways. On the 4 ends, the rate of flow would be lower than if it was just 1 end. This is our current 4G service.
And now, the LTE. A hose that is 3 inches in diameter. Now, it can split it 4 ways, and get about 3x more performance in each hose (Which as you mentioned, is probably unnecessary, since we probably wouldn't notice the difference)... OR you could split it 12 ways and you would get the same performance with 1 inch hose that was only split 4 ways. It now can support 3x more hoses, while delivering the same amount of throughput.
It's not always about speed
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That analogy is actually kind of weak. Firstly, not all phones will be LTE. Second, just like other spectrums, the more people use it, the slower it will be. I'm all for LTE however, as more use it, the faster 4g signal will be. But if you do aa cost benefit analysis(yes, a science-y term), the amount of extra battery consumption for the negligable amount of increased performance would be bad. Until we have things that require those speeds(maybe torrents), you simply wont notice gains worth the extra consumption.
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I think T-mobile should focus on strengthening their signal and offering better speeds in all areas before going LTE. In my recent trip to Florida I basically had to stand in one corner of one room of the house I was staying at to get one bar. I ended up just using my BIL's WIFI the entire time. My MIL has an AT&T old school phone and had fine signal everywhere in the house. It was the same way in the parks.... service going in and out constantly while I saw other ppl on their phones just fine. Not to mention that while I am at work I get 2G at best whilst my AT&T coworkers get 4G. One co-worker just switched from T-mobile to AT&T and said he cannot believe the speed difference. I love T-mobile's customer care, and I have had a great experience with them so I hate to leave but if the signal doesn't improve soon I'm going to be forced to make the switch.
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I live in Florida, used to be Daytona(central florida area), and now jacksonville.. there are a few miles in between that I lose 4g, but I can testify that the east coast down to Miami actually has pretty great coverage. Jacksonvilles signal strength has been amazing everywhere(biggest city in the u.s. by square miles) except for where I just moved, which is the ffirst time I've Ever experienced drops in signal from 4g to 2g to no signal in a few feet.. but that likely has to do witg the interferance from the very close power grid.
While LTE is a great technology with a lot of potential, and it will lessen the burden on other bandwidth spectrums.. the usefulness at the moment is comparable tto the concept of anything more than a quad core(which isn't fully realized) or more than a gig of ram.. diminishing returns. At this point they need new, bigger, and faster features to sell us new phones, just like rom develpers need new features to make new roms worth downloading. I say if it isn't broke, don't fix it. If you like hype.. buy buy buy. At some point it is like buying a new phone that the only difference is that it has siri(I had to throw that in, lol. All hype )
Edit: software is one of the biggest upgrades at the moment. Upgrading from gingerbread to ics will give a bigger performance boost that a faster processor, more cores, or more ram. Everything from the browser on up will be faster than an upgrade to data speed. Or the hardware specs that are neglected on mobile phones that matter just like a computer. How many threads can the processor handle? What's the NM rate of the processor? What is the sspeed of the ram rather than the total? Or how about upgrades to the gpu rather than Number of cores or the amount of ram?
Specs we see are expressed so simple for the consumer to think it matters. Oh, this phone has a 1.7ghz quad core, it must be better than the 1.5ghz. Oh, two gigs of ram, twice as much as the last one! While the smaller harder to understand specs are completely forgotten.
LTE! Bah!
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Have you ever heard of the concept of diminishing returns? At some point increasing the speed of data will give an increase of experience that is so tiny that you won't notice it.. the biggest bottleneck in our data speed is the app that we use to access that data, and the system itself.
With a few build.prop tweaks I consistently get over 18mbs download and 3mbs upload - how much faster can it get? Will a page loading .03 a second faster at higher speeds be worth the battery drain of TRUE lte? Unless the browsing app and the system itself get better, faster data speeds won't do anything you're gonna notice - it is 99.9999999% hype to sell you a new phone or service.
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I am admittedly a bit of a noob. But I would be interested in learning some about build.prop and what lines can be edited. I guess there is always trial and error, but if someone could point me on the right direction that would be cool.
Edit: nm had time to do a bit of searching
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jaytee20 said:
I am admittedly a bit of a noob. But I would be interested in learning some about build.prop and what lines can be edited. I guess there is always trial and error, but if someone could point me on the right direction that would be cool.
Edit: nm had time to do a bit of searching
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Well, I can save you a bit of searching.. no rom in our development section uses the max speeds(except maybe speedrom), but all of these lines exist in any rom and the stock rom's build.prop - if you have different settings, you are getting lower speeds(higher speeds may be possible, these are just the highest I've tested without reducing battery life that I know work):
ro.ril.hsxpa=5
ro.ril.gprsclass=14
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ro.ril.hsdpa.category=32
ro.ril.hsupa.category=7
There are tons and tons of lines you can edit or add to the build.prop.. here are some recent ones from the s3 forums that explain what they actually do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769458
There are also some lines in most of our roms that have #comments before them explaining what they do, like disabling checkin services to htc and google, etc.. definitely worth learning tho
The day that data speeds over 5 mbs is "that" important to me is the day i beat myself to death with my own phone
No tweaks and I get average 28 megabits in Austin Texas
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I'm confused about our phone a bit. I thought I had seen that our phone says something about lte in the kernel or somewhere. Why? And I remember faux saying he had disabled it I think
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I'm confused about our phone a bit. I thought I had seen that our phone says something about lte in the kernel or somewhere. Why? And I remember faux saying he had disabled it I think
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It does have LTE listed, you can even find it in the APN settings, but it's completely pointless without the hardware, which our device doesn't have, reason being why faux disabled it.
Dark Nightmare said:
It does have LTE listed, you can even find it in the APN settings, but it's completely pointless without the hardware, which our device doesn't have, reason being why faux disabled it.
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So why would we even have it on the software level?
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