Guys...
I've had my C6802 for a week now. I've been loving it, and I didn't understand why people are dissing it about pocket ability. It fits in my pants pocket just fine. I just make sure that the left front pocket is reserved for the phone alone, no keys, change, or any other scratcher. Breast pocket is just disaster waiting to happen - button down flap can't even come over the phone. So that's out.
Today I sat down at the restaurant to use the Wi-Fi on my laptop, and I hooked up the XZU to download a movie through Media Go. I noticed the phone rocking back and forth diagonally, not laying flat on the table top. I thought maybe the table is sloping on that side. So, I moved the phone to another spot; same thing. I picked up the phone and eyeballed it along its profile! Alas! It was bent!
I remembered...... Aluminum frame..... so I flexed it diagonally to fix it, and it straightened out!
So be warned folks! Even if it fits in your pocket, sitting down with the phone in the pocket will definitely bend it! This might even lead to the glass corners popping out!
Oh, that's.. bad I usually put my phone on the table no matter what, but i'll keep this in the back of my head. Thanks for sharing.
LordManhattan said:
Oh, that's.. bad I usually put my phone on the table no matter what, but i'll keep this in the back of my head. Thanks for sharing.
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I do set the phone on the table too. I believe I twisted it sitting in the car from the house to the restaurant. It was a short drive; 2 blocks. So I didn't think much of it.
post a youtube video or pics to let us see, as this is sorta scary and might become usual as if this happens to more than yourself at least we can all tell sony support its a common fault
yup, there was a thread somewhere, someone asking how much it costs to replace the screen/digitizer because the screen cracked when he sat on it while ZU in the back pocket.
Gotta be careful...
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encryptioncsta said:
post a youtube video or pics to let us see, as this is sorta scary and might become usual as if this happens to more than yourself at least we can all tell sony support its a common fault
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I wonder, from what point it stops being a faulty design... I mean, not all of us are made the same. If a 200kg (about 400lbs?) guy sat on it at the wrong angle, I would not blame Sony at all... A steel sheet 5mm thick will bend under those kinda weight...
jewelkobayashi said:
I wonder, from what point it stops being a faulty design... I mean, not all of us are made the same. If a 200kg (about 400lbs?) guy sat on it at the wrong angle, I would not blame Sony at all... A steel sheet 5mm thick will bend under those kinda weight...
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Even if someone of 40 kg would sit on it while on the rear pocket I would not blame Sony. If I remember well you are living in Vietnam, I have the phone everyday on my front pocket and drive scooter but my phone is still perfectly flat.
I do not put it on any too tide jean, and as soon as i sit completely on a car or chair I do remove it before sit. If not it is on a bag. So scare to break it, after all this phone is so thin and have so large and thin glass on it. I had to change iPhone glass of people siting on there sofa, same thing can happen here.
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Imdking said:
I do set the phone on the table too. I believe I twisted it sitting in the car from the house to the restaurant. It was a short drive; 2 blocks. So I didn't think much of it.
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BINGO. This was my only concern regarding the Ultra from day one. I even wrote about it hear. I don't think you are the first to do this and you wont be the last either. Point is how do you know the integrity of the water resistance has not now been comprised? You don't!
I love the Ultra BUT putting that beast in a pocket was simply asking for eventual trouble. As you wrote how could an aluminium frame that dimension prevent twisting?
Sorry you had to experience this.
Regards.
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encryptioncsta said:
post a youtube video or pics to let us see, as this is sorta scary and might become usual as if this happens to more than yourself at least we can all tell sony support its a common fault
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With great respect to you Sir this is not a Sony 'problem'. THE 'problem' with the Ultra is portability. Woman can use hand bags men will try and use trousers. The Ultra is simply to large for general trouser use. Add to this the materials used, glass, plastics and Aluminium and what can we expect? Even titanium at that thinness will eventually flex. This, to me, is a classic example of a device defeating its own purpose.
I love the Ultra I love my Z and 10.1 Z tablet. I have gone back to the plastic smaller world of the new Note 3 as I know I just could not live with the portability problems with the beautiful Ultra.
There are only two tragedies in life. One is NOT having what we want the other is having it.
This will solve itself as long as you live in a temperate climate with seasonal change. What i'm trying to say is: Winter is coming, and we will use jackets/coats which will make our lives much simpler. To the people of SE Asia, Africa, Australia, Southern Europe and Southern USA, i'm very sorry
Imdking said:
Guys...
I've had my C6802 for a week now. I've been loving it, and I didn't understand why people are dissing it about pocket ability. It fits in my pants pocket just fine. I just make sure that the left front pocket is reserved for the phone alone, no keys, change, or any other scratcher. Breast pocket is just disaster waiting to happen - button down flap can't even come over the phone. So that's out.
Today I sat down at the restaurant to use the Wi-Fi on my laptop, and I hooked up the XZU to download a movie through Media Go. I noticed the phone rocking back and forth diagonally, not laying flat on the table top. I thought maybe the table is sloping on that side. So, I moved the phone to another spot; same thing. I picked up the phone and eyeballed it along its profile! Alas! It was bent!
I remembered...... Aluminum frame..... so I flexed it diagonally to fix it, and it straightened out!
So be warned folks! Even if it fits in your pocket, sitting down with the phone in the pocket will definitely bend it! This might even lead to the glass corners popping out!
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I personally keep it in my jacket pocket or in the jeans pocket, and sometimes they are really tight, and 80% of the time the ZU pops out a few inches from them, but my phone is still perfect.
On the other hand I think that aluminum bending on this device would be so limited that you can't even find out: phone is resting (face or back) on glass.
In no part the aluminum touches the table.
And even if you do manage to bend your device, I think it would have been much more than keeping it in a pocket. It would be all misaligned from angle to angle, at the point that the glass would break for the force pressing every time you lay it flat or you use it.
I wouldn't mind seeing pics too before saying any more things.
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Guys, any phone will do this. I am sorry that the OP experienced damage, but if anything it's the fault of the larger dimensions of the phone, not its thinness. Think about it: what constitutes the vast majority of a phone's thickness? It's the internal volume, obviously. It's the internal volume that was reduced in order to make the phone thin, not the thickness of the frame or glass sheets. Those would be the same regardless of how thick or thin the phone as, as they're just "caps." The fact that the phone is longer and wider than usual will allow you to exert more torque on the frame because of leverage, but the frame itself is no weaker than any other phone, and probably stronger than many.
Just put a lanyard on it and hang it on your neck...
Worry about it being stolen while hanging infront of your chest? Then place it under your shirt!
Problem solved..
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capitansid said:
Just put a lanyard on it and hang it on your neck...
Worry about it being stolen while hanging infront of your chest? Then place it under your shirt!
Problem solved..
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If you're into torture and breaking your own neck, sure why not
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This is phenomena only experienced goons who wear skinny jeans...smh...
bASKOU said:
Even if someone of 40 kg would sit on it while on the rear pocket I would not blame Sony. If I remember well you are living in Vietnam, I have the phone everyday on my front pocket and drive scooter but my phone is still perfectly flat.
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Yeah, I am very careful about pick-pocketers in Hanoi, so I try not to put it in my back pocket anyway
It fits my front pocket fine, but I find it a bit hard to get it out while riding my bike, find it harder to answer it one-handed, and even more difficult to put it back into the front pocket while riding the bike. Depending on other things I have in front pocket, I have to stand on my bike while riding to put it back into the pocket.
(for those of you who don't know Vietnam, it must sound crazy )
Can't wait until winter so that I can use my inside jacket pocket.
And back to topic, I agree with most posts so far.
It is about portability problem, not design or manu quality problem. Applying torque on something so wide, long and thin must be avoided.
MY HUNT FOR THE PERFECT MAN-BAG NEEDS TO BE STEPPED UP A GEAR.
Guys.
There is nothing wrong with the phone. Nothing wrong with the build quality, or the frame, construction... none of that!
The phone fits in pants pocket. I use the front pocket. If you do carry it in your front pants pocket, be aware that sitting down with the phone in your front pocket will place torque on the phone, twisting it. My phone was NOT twisted enough to even consider it damaged. I just noticed that it wasn't perfectly flat when I placed it on the table. I twisted it back and corrected it.
After that little incident, I now make sure that I take it out of my pocket when I get in the car, or sit down. So, guys, becareful.
I have been using this gear keeper. The retention force is a bit strong, but very solid. I also have a larger sunglasses cloth bag to keep it protected till a case arrives. The MW600 works well for bluetooth call access/audio while the phone is tucked away. I listen to internet news while riding a motorcycle.
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jewelkobayashi said:
Yeah, I am very careful about pick-pocketers in Hanoi, so I try not to put it in my back pocket anyway
It fits my front pocket fine, but I find it a bit hard to get it out while riding my bike, find it harder to answer it one-handed, and even more difficult to put it back into the front pocket while riding the bike. Depending on other things I have in front pocket, I have to stand on my bike while riding to put it back into the pocket.
(for those of you who don't know Vietnam, it must sound crazy )
Can't wait until winter so that I can use my inside jacket pocket.
And back to topic, I agree with most posts so far.
It is about portability problem, not design or manu quality problem. Applying torque on something so wide, long and thin must be avoided.
MY HUNT FOR THE PERFECT MAN-BAG NEEDS TO BE STEPPED UP A GEAR.
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mrgardiner said:
I have been using this gear keeper. The retention force is a bit strong, but very solid. I also have a larger sunglasses cloth bag to keep it protected till a case arrives. The MW600 works well for bluetooth call access/audio while the phone is tucked away. I listen to internet news while riding a motorcycle.
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Interesting indeed. Your reply would have been just as fitting in the post I opened under accessories section about how people carry their ZU :good:
Do you keep the phone dangling on you, or into a pocket while it is like it's on a lanyard and pull it when needed, or do you attach it to a bag of some kind and keep it in there??
I can see it being used in a million different ways... How do you use it?
Imdking said:
Guys...
I've had my C6802 for a week now. I've been loving it, and I didn't understand why people are dissing it about pocket ability. It fits in my pants pocket just fine. I just make sure that the left front pocket is reserved for the phone alone, no keys, change, or any other scratcher. Breast pocket is just disaster waiting to happen - button down flap can't even come over the phone. So that's out.
Today I sat down at the restaurant to use the Wi-Fi on my laptop, and I hooked up the XZU to download a movie through Media Go. I noticed the phone rocking back and forth diagonally, not laying flat on the table top. I thought maybe the table is sloping on that side. So, I moved the phone to another spot; same thing. I picked up the phone and eyeballed it along its profile! Alas! It was bent!
I remembered...... Aluminum frame..... so I flexed it diagonally to fix it, and it straightened out!
So be warned folks! Even if it fits in your pocket, sitting down with the phone in the pocket will definitely bend it! This might even lead to the glass corners popping out!
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Just two things.
One: it's the 29th, you posted on 23rd.
Two: several people asked you for pics, and you posted none. If you had time to open a topic about it, you sure have some to take 2 simple pics to prove what you're saying.
That said, until you do post some pictures, I call BS on the whole "the ZU bends if kept in pockets" argument.
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fastest83 said:
Just two things.
One: it's the 29th, you posted on 23rd.
Two: several people asked you for pics, and you posted none. If you had time to open a topic about it, you sure have some to take 2 simple pics to prove what you're saying.
That said, until you do post some pictures, I call BS on the whole "the ZU bends if kept in pockets" argument.
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Pictures of what? My twisted phone? I am not twisting my phone again just to provide you with pictures.
My phone got twisted, I corrected it, and I advised other pocketers to be careful. There's no evidence to be had. You obviously read only my original post, and omitted the one on page 2.
I use it for safety mostly. If I am at work the phone stays in my pocket(front or back) while attached. When sitting down it might rest in my lap depending on the meeting or I unsnap(the clip mechanism is really-too stiff) it and set it on the table or my desk. I might leave it dangling when tieing my shoes.
I had it in a jeans pocket while riding a motorcycle for less than a mile., and I have <1/2 millimeter play or travel on a flat table. Lanyard to front camera diagonal is fine, but headphone jack to opposite corner wiggles a little. I haven't tried unbending it. I could try to take a photo, but there likely wouldn't be much to see.
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Do you keep it in your pocket? Do you have a designated backpack for the beast? I'm considering buying one, and this is my only worry, so I'm looking for what people are doing.
Back pocket of my jeans. Take it off when sitting down. Still looking for a good leather case for it cause the "leather" case that comes with it in the box sucks.
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Front pocket or in my jacket if I'm wearing one, and I always take it out of my front pocket when I sit down, unless it's in my jacket.
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front pocket of pants.. but its mostly on my desk.
I've got two cases now, but I always end up taking it out and having it clean starkers naked!
I don't put my phones in my pocket, so i just carry a bag. But i can also hold it or maybe put it in my back pocket when i am not seating.
btw here is how the XZ owners solve the fingerprint problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232790
I carry my ZU on a small leather bag that can fit an ipad mini. And using sbh52 for call handling and sms reading
I keep the phone in the front pocket in my trousers, sits there fine apart from when mountain biking so usually stick it in a jacket pocket for that.
I assume it's not possible to see a demo unit? I had initially discounted the Z Ultra as an option because I was sure it was too big however I tried out a demo unit and was surprised it went in my pocket comfortably so decided to go for it although I guess obviously, the pockets on my trousers are quite generously sized.
John
I keep it in the pocket of my jeans.
The only thing I have to remember is to take it out before lifting stuff, I tend to put stuff on my knees when lifting it and I guess if I do this with the phone still in my pocket it will most likely break if whatever I'm lifting is heavy.
I'm also considering buying an insurance for the phone, it looks extremely fragile and one mistake could destroy 600€.
Johnmcl7 said:
I keep the phone in the front pocket in my trousers, sits there fine apart from when mountain biking so usually stick it in a jacket pocket for that.
I assume it's not possible to see a demo unit? I had initially discounted the Z Ultra as an option because I was sure it was too big however I tried out a demo unit and was surprised it went in my pocket comfortably so decided to go for it although I guess obviously, the pockets on my trousers are quite generously sized.
John
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I just saw the dummy phones they have out and tethered to the wall, so I couldn't get it all the way in my pocket, but I'm pretty sure it will fit in my jeans consistently. If I ever want to wear other pants though, then I might have to be creative.
It's time to get some cardboard and a scissor out.
- Find some cardboard (thickness isn't that important)
- Dimensions of the Ultra: 179.4 x 92.2 x 6.5 mm (7.06 x 3.63 x 0.26 in)
- Cut
- Done
LordManhattan said:
It's time to get some cardboard and a scissor out.
- Find some cardboard (thickness isn't that important)
- Dimensions of the Ultra: 179.4 x 92.2 x 6.5 mm (7.06 x 3.63 x 0.26 in)
- Cut
- Done
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I've actually done that a while ago
JulianSidewind said:
I've actually done that a while ago
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Hah, same here. I measured my "model" with the real deal when i got it - and it was pretty pretty close, but it didn't "feel right". Maybe because it was made of cardboard (duh), but it was way better to just stick the Ultra down my pants Go back to a store where they have it and wear your tighest pants so you can see if it fits. If it fits, you'll also know that it'll fit in your other (bigger) pants
I ordered a black wrist lanyard to put on the phone. I did not have a lot of choice because they are very difficult to find in this country.
The lanyard seems so sensible to me! We put them on expensive camera's. Why not on expensive smartphones?
I cracked the screen of my GS3 and I am still furious at myself. My 2.5 yo phone which still has resale value is now worthless.
If I drop it with the lanyard on my wrist at least it will not go sailing to the floor or get lost at a concert.
Do you use a lanyard? What style do you have?
I am using the only one I've had for years. It is the one that comes with a sony pocketstation. It's been living on my psp for many years and now it's on my z3
I really wish they made a wrist strap or neck strap with the xperia logo on it.
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I used one with the Z3 for about a day with it hanging from my neck. It was going everywhere swinging and getting dipped in the sink so i got rid of it. Plus, I regularly use cases and I change them to freshen up the look but with the lanyard on, it was not possible anymore. So lanyard had to go. Still have but I do't use it no more.
I have used it with a phone in this fashion before, round my neck. Coincidentally it was the Sony w890 and a slick small device it was http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_w890-3d-spin-2172.php
it was on a shorter lead so it wasn't so bad as swinging the giant z3, made of glass.
I use this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deff-Carbon..._Cell_Phone_Straps_Charms&hash=item3387cef356
Pretty much a lanyard, but it has a ring you slip into your finger instead. I've gotten use to it to the point where I slip my finger in automatically.
Hiya,
if this is posted on the wrong location, please assist to move the post. I am not sure where to post.
I gotten myself an unit ST17i online recently, everything is working well, except the back cover missing some items (Rubber seal for the usb and audio port) =( and also the following which i am unsure, which is why i am asking here,
Image from phonearena.com
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(1st post so cannot put up a link)
Looking at the back cover (on the right),
I would like the know what is the rectangle with semicircle thing on the center of the cover? (looks kind of like a P also)
is that some sort of block? (water? radiation? etc?)
Would be great to get a reply:good:
Thanks =)
It is sort of key which ensures the back cover and middle cover is fit snuggly.
Without the flaps for USB/Audio , the device loses it's water resistance.
This is a hell of a device . Super resistant to impacts and what not !!
karandpr said:
It is sort of key which ensures the back cover and middle cover is fit snuggly.
Without the flaps for USB/Audio , the device loses it's water resistance.
This is a hell of a device . Super resistant to impacts and what not !!
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Yea thats the reason why i got it in the 1st place.
trying to get the clips and seals for the usb and audio now.
Other than that this device performs as expected and the battery life is relatively good
Thou the camera is slightly a little of a downer compared to my Z3C =s