I just read an article regarding the Samsung Focus S, basically a Windows Phone 7 version of our beloved Galaxy S II... I was wondering if they have similar hardware inside? And will it be possible for some awesome dev to port the Mango ROM found on it to run on our GS2? Read something here on xda about dualbooting ROM's on the Galaxy S2... Wouldn't it be awesome if you could have both? The HTC HD2 is quite a old device but it can run Android, Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 perfectly... Could the same be possible for a Galaxy S2, except the Windows Mobile of course.
Please don't reply things like 'if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device'. I'm extremely satisfied with my GS2 but if it were possible to see how the other side lives I'd really like to do that. Any thoughts?
As WP7 is not open source, its more or less like illegal to port it to other devices to which it is not intended to run.
The HD2 is a windows phone, so don't forget that! This is the ONLY reason it can run WP7
I also would love to have that option, if nothing else, to just try WP7. Would also be willing to donate, though I understand the awesome developers don't do it for money.
pietpodlood said:
I just read an article regarding the Samsung Focus S, basically a Windows Phone 7 version of our beloved Galaxy S II... I was wondering if they have similar hardware inside? And will it be possible for some awesome dev to port the Mango ROM found on it to run on our GS2? Read something here on xda about dualbooting ROM's on the Galaxy S2... Wouldn't it be awesome if you could have both? The HTC HD2 is quite a old device but it can run Android, Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 perfectly... Could the same be possible for a Galaxy S2, except the Windows Mobile of course.
Please don't reply things like 'if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device'. I'm extremely satisfied with my GS2 but if it were possible to see how the other side lives I'd really like to do that. Any thoughts?
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WP7 is not compatible with the Galaxy S2 proccessor. But WP7 is made almost exclusively for Qualcomm processors. So, don't ever expect a WP7 mango port for Galaxy S2.
Since WP7 is not opensource, the custom ROMs and ports are just repacked existing ROMs with minor modifications or mix and match different ROMs. Since there is no WP7 phones running on similar hardware, this is not possible on Galaxy S2.
As, for HD2, it's hardware is similar to most WP7 phones with HD7 being almost same hardware has HD2 with just minor change.
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TheSobadef said:
The HD2 is a windows phone, so don't forget that! This is the ONLY reason it can run WP7
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The fact that it is possible to run WP7 has nothing to do with the fact that it is shipped with Windows Phone.
It is unlikely that it will ever be ported to our device. Sad but true. Sad because WP7 is a great platform and it would be great to have Android and WP7 on our device.
thanks for all the reply's, it is quite sad though that this will likely never happen... oh well, we still have the phone of the year...
Oh and sorry for posting in the wrong section... my bad...
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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Why would you ever buy a Windows phone XD
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if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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someone didnt read the op.
mcardielo said:
if you wanted WP7 why didn't you buy a WP7 device
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Your an idiot, what did he say in his first post, don't say why not buy a windows phone. Get a grip.
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Let this be just discussion first...
So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
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Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
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given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.
So guys i belive you all have heard about new windows 8 for PC but i heard that Microsoft will release an ARM version for smartphone devices and tablets, i think that we have the chance since thay say taha windows mobile phones that where latest in the winmo series would be suitablle to run windows 8. Any comment on this, true, false, posssible, or not?
time will tell nikola, i did hear that windows 8 will be alot easier to port than wp7, but, like i say time will tell
yea shure, time does everything, i think that win 8 would be portable to any device since there are some guys on sgs2 forum telling the same thing about porting it.
Hi there, you mean that there are guys with sgs2 trying to port it on Win 8? :-o now that's interesting
yea, there is a guy that have windows me on sgs2 so he think it will be peace of cake to make sgs2 run win 8. But a lot of people are like: we have android that is better. I say no. Win8 or wp7 are the simpliest imagined os's, like iOS. Android is candy eye, that is the way and have most powerfull machines runing it. So it is my opinion just.
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yea, there is a guy that have windows me on sgs2 so he think it will be peace of cake to make sgs2 run win 8. But a lot of people are like: we have android that is better. I say no. Win8 or wp7 are the simpliest imagined os's, like iOS. Android is candy eye, that is the way and have most powerfull machines runing it. So it is my opinion just.
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False IMO. Why would Microsoft want to do that? If anything, they would be loosing profits ,as no one would buy their new hardware with the native OS.
Also this forum is empty.... There are no current devs anymore. Sorry to say,but I doubt anything more for the tg01.
What happened to Nokser's promise ?
IMO, i think Android is by far, the Best OS ever! So much it can do! Windows Mobile was great and taught me about roms etc... I would like to thank all the devs who made it a worthwhile expierence here!
But things have changed , and I'm really glad I made the switch to Android .
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Idk ms says that the ARM version of win 8 will be most suitable for windows mobile devices and tablets! Thats the official, and about win8 ptoject for sgs2 it is unofficial, like most stuff here...
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Idk ms says that the ARM version of win 8 will be most suitable for windows mobile devices and tablets! Thats the official, and about win8 ptoject for sgs2 it is unofficial, like most stuff here...
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True, you got a point, but tell me, who is going to port win8 for us?
There are no devs here anymore.
To port an OS requires many devs.
Android is the easiest OS to port (due to open source nature )
Yet we don't have a functional full working port.
Wp7 project was complete rubbish by Nokser. He called for donations, promised a release, yet failed to deliver.
He took the money and left.
IMO, I think your best bet is to stick with the sgs2. The forums are like 100 Times bigger than here, so there will be much more dev progress. Soon there may ba another OS port for us there, and we can choose to switch platform. Also the hardware of the sgs is far superior to run the New OS requirements .
Do you not prefer capacitive touch lol?
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hehehe i am doing a lot on my sgs2 i am trying to destroy it xD. But tg01 is for extreme experiments, i allmost got wp7 working by help of a friend from MS but no use... Sgs2 will be my toy when i sell tg01 and buy new phone.
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hehehe i am doing a lot on my sgs2 i am trying to destroy it xD. But tg01 is for extreme experiments, i allmost got wp7 working by help of a friend from MS but no use... Sgs2 will be my toy when i sell tg01 and buy new phone.
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Hi Nikola why you want to sell it?
I just buy a "new" TG01 and i can tell you that the price for such a piece is very good and that there are PNA's in the market that are a lot more slower and much more expensive.
So i think TG will never become "A piece of junk"!
You will always have a god device for test, navigation...! Men's stuff!
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hehehe i am doing a lot on my sgs2 i am trying to destroy it xD. But tg01 is for extreme experiments, i allmost got wp7 working by help of a friend from MS but no use... Sgs2 will be my toy when i sell tg01 and buy new phone.
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I forgot to ask!
What do you mean by : " i allmost got wp7"
How did you tryed to install wp7?
Thank's for answer.
Well on some strange way via some tsnand.exe for some japnesse people that tryed the same, it writes dirctly to nand and read from nand and erase from it but i never could establish good connection with my PC since i had some wierd version of win 7. Well i am gonna sell it cuz for that money i get i can by second hand Samsung Omnia 7 8 Gb version(with little more money).
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Well on some strange way via some tsnand.exe for some japnesse people that tryed the same, it writes dirctly to nand and read from nand and erase from it but i never could establish good connection with my PC since i had some wierd version of win 7. Well i am gonna sell it cuz for that money i get i can by second hand Samsung Omnia 7 8 Gb version(with little more money).
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What about your SGS2? You don't like it ??
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olyloh6696 said:
What about your SGS2? You don't like it ??
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hi Android_olyloh6696 i can confirm omnia 7 with wp7 mango is the best combination and the far best handset, if one wants to remain faithful to Windows and the upcoming Windows 8.
Windows 8 developers beta run on my new Wetab (exoPC)
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hi Android_olyloh6696 i can confirm omnia 7 with wp7 mango is the best combination and the far best handset, if one wants to remain faithful to Windows and the upcoming Windows 8.
Windows 8 developers beta run on my new Wetab (exoPC)
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Haha
Really nice to see you again Miro! I did begin to worry about about you as I didn't see you around for months!
How are you man?
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Haha
Really nice to see you again Miro! I did begin to worry about about you as I didn't see you around for months!
How are you man?
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thank you, i´m fine.. also nice to see you, my friend! i needed a technology- break and have done more with the family and my job.
.... how were your exams? i hope good
mirolg said:
hi Android_olyloh6696 i can confirm omnia 7 with wp7 mango is the best combination and the far best handset, if one wants to remain faithful to Windows and the upcoming Windows 8.
Windows 8 developers beta run on my new Wetab (exoPC)
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I think that if you will ask an Android - hard core fan he will also say that Android is the best option!
True is that if you feel fine with a SO then you must stay with it!
I personaly like Android because is easy to use (I speak as a low end user) and have good games. But i like WM 6 because is so versatile! You could install on the same SO more skins and is very easy to set it.
I didn't use WP7 yet ! (but i think is similar with Android - user frendly)
And by the way is wrong to compare the resistive touch screen(like TG01) with capacitive touch screen (like Omnia 7). The capacitive touch screen is made for gentle handling!
mirolg said:
hi Android_olyloh6696 i can confirm omnia 7 with wp7 mango is the best combination and the far best handset, if one wants to remain faithful to Windows and the upcoming Windows 8.
Windows 8 developers beta run on my new Wetab (exoPC)
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true,true i do like SGS2 offcourse... I mean it is EPIC phone after all but the smooth and SIMPLE, i prefer simple OS , is the WP7. And i say here in my country people are brand maniacs Nokia, Apple, etc. I call that brainless, but there are some smart ones WELCOME BACK MIRLOG. Pozdrav iz Srbije
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thank you, i´m fine.. also nice to see you, my friend! i needed a technology- break and have done more with the family and my job.
.... how were your exams? i hope good
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Yeah! Hope its all well for you!
Yeah I did well in my exams, thanks for asking!!!
Nice to see you around! Maybe one day we will see each other again in our future devices forums
@Rila I do agree with you to some extent! But if you root your phone you can customize as much as Windows Mobile
@nikola92 true some people prefer WP7 to android, but if I were you wait for the WP7 version of the SGS2, its just around the corner
Nice to visit the TG01 forum once in a while! I hope the best for this great small forum
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Yeah! Hope its all well for you!
Yeah I did well in my exams, thanks for asking!!!
Nice to see you around! Maybe one day we will see each other again in our future devices forums
@Rila I do agree with you to some extent! But if you root your phone you can customize as much as Windows Mobile
@nikola92 true some people prefer WP7 to android, but if I were you wait for the WP7 version of the SGS2, its just around the corner
Nice to visit the TG01 forum once in a while! I hope the best for this great small forum
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would like to congratulate, my friend!
...Yes small community but the best. We all miss that in the other forums!
... The coming Android 4.5 "and 1280 x 720 resolution would already interested
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true,true i do like SGS2 offcourse... I mean it is EPIC phone after all but the smooth and SIMPLE, i prefer simple OS , is the WP7. And i say here in my country people are brand maniacs Nokia, Apple, etc. I call that brainless, but there are some smart ones WELCOME BACK MIRLOG. Pozdrav iz Srbije
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thank you, my friend! Really nice also to see you!
Any Idea, wether there would be port of wp8 for sgs2? Is it possible? Thank you!
No, and no.
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Any Idea, wether there would be port of wp8 for sgs2? Is it possible? Thank you!
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NO.
Windows phone 8 is not even on any phone in the market yet and you are already thinking of porting it!
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
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Any Idea, wether there would be port of wp8 for sgs2? Is it possible? Thank you!
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The closest thing to that is to flash an miui rom and find a mtz for wp8. I believe there are a few
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NO.
Windows phone 8 is not even on any phone in the market yet and you are already thinking of porting it!
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
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Well it is because I had HTC HD2 and WP7 running on it, the system is great. I don't like android a much, because it lacks basic phone skills that my old nokias had since ever. And I thought that when you can port wp7 on HD2, why it would not work on SGS2. Especially because Samsung stated that SGS2 (and later SGS3) would be in hardware meaning reference phones for WP8.
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Well it is because I had HTC HD2 and WP7 running on it, the system is great. I don't like android a much, because it lacks basic phone skills that my old nokias had since ever. And I thought that when you can port wp7 on HD2, why it would not work on SGS2. Especially because Samsung stated that SGS2 (and later SGS3) would be in hardware meaning reference phones for WP8.
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If android lacks "basic phone skills", then buy Nokia 3310 LOL!
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Well it is because I had HTC HD2 and WP7 running on it, the system is great. I don't like android a much, because it lacks basic phone skills that my old nokias had since ever. And I thought that when you can port wp7 on HD2, why it would not work on SGS2. Especially because Samsung stated that SGS2 (and later SGS3) would be in hardware meaning reference phones for WP8.
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The HTC HD2 shipped with Windows Mobile 6.5. It was not originally an Android device.
it's really not possible? don't we have all the drivers to make it work? a leaked wp8 rom or official should be already out so what's the matter? bring the rom of the ativ s and port it to the s2
Just use a custom launcher there are a few out there or use a theme with a rom like cyanogenmod. And lol HD hd2 got windows ported to it made me laugh. And what basic phone skills is android missing??? Surely basic phone skills is calling and texting and every android phone can do that well
I can't figure which area to post this- WP8 or Android since it has to do with both of them..
I figure since WP8 supports multiple cores up to 64 cores, and the Note 2 runs Android already, and they have a Samsung WP8 phone...
Maybe someone could come up with a way to have the Galaxy Note 2 dual boot the stock Android ROM, and WP8.
Is anyone working on something like this? That would be Something Else, because I like to look of Android but I also like the connectivity of WP8 with my W8 PC.
Just a thought...
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I can't figure which area to post this- WP8 or Android since it has to do with both of them..
I figure since WP8 supports multiple cores up to 64 cores, and the Note 2 runs Android already, and they have a Samsung WP8 phone...
Maybe someone could come up with a way to have the Galaxy Note 2 dual boot the stock Android ROM, and WP8.
Is anyone working on something like this? That would be Something Else, because I like to look of Android but I also like the connectivity of WP8 with my W8 PC.
Just a thought...
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You probably won't find much here on XDA since WP8 is copyrighted by Microsoft and licensed for the devices it comes stock on. The HD2 was the only device to run both since it came with windows mobile and Android was open source so it Legally could run both.
Though I'm sure it would be awesome to have both on the Note II, and may run on it also, I don't think XDA will allow it here. Sorry.
Noellenchris
just a thought...
There could be a secret wp8 hacking coalition and have them congregate on the darknet. Lol. Thank you for the reply!
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There could be a secret wp8 hacking coalition and have them congregate on the darknet. Lol. Thank you for the reply!
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If you really wanted to find out more info, I'd search for Cotulla and his work, you can also find him on IRC, if it can be done, he'd know how to do it.
WP8 is a closed source like iOS. And it cannot be ported to another device.
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Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
Unfortunately not at this point in time, Many users would love to have a dual boot option, Set a bounty to the Dark Forces Team to work on HSPL and if there is enough interest then may be work will begin
Either way it will not be happening for a very long time.
Yes, you just need the boot floppy.
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
According to the reviews I read getting HSPL for the WP8 devices is close to impossible. (although that was said about a lot of things) I personally would however not want Android on this awesome device even if someone paid me for it
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Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
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Fortunately, no.
sk22 said:
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
These aren't desktop computers you can just load any OS onto, they are complex embedded devices.
There is a surprising lack of compatibility on ARM processors, so you're better buying the phone with the OS you want to run.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
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Have to agree, why get a WM8 phone if you want to put Android on it?
HD2 was also a wm6.5 phone, right??
But I don't think there are a lot of HD2 still running wm6.5.
Why people keep porting different OS into it? They can just buy an android device, problem solved, too.
I think there will be more fans if 920 can be ported other OS.
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What is "WM8"?
There are more than enough Android phones bro.
You bought the wrong phone if you really want Android
the Lumia 920 is pure Windows Phone, you can fell the power and style it
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There was not a single port of Android to a WP7 phone and almost all of them had HSPL. When looking into HSPL for Nokia though some Devs decided it was to hard to crack - I would guess with Secure Boot this has not gotten easier.
So all in all: it is highly unlikely that you will see an Android port for the Lumia phones or any other WP for that matter. If you don't like WP8 and want an Android device: sell the Lumia and buy an Android - everything else seems likely to just frustrate you to no end.