Has anyone done any testing between the two? Curious as to which is better at saving battery.
I too would like to know?
Can you guys post your Smart Actions Settings for battery life?
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For energy saving purpose Juice defender works better, but you can use in addiction Smart action to automate some tasks
In my opinion, JD is far more effective, but perhaps it's because I use it for a long time and I don't want to change my habits
I tried SA, but I've switched back to JD after a week.
Using JD with advanced settings (schedules, brightness control, screen on, ...), I have just no battery issue.
In case you like OOTB solutions, SA are ... smart enough.
In case you like full control, JD gives you more options.
They both deserve a try
I too must side with JD for flexibility, ease and results with the battery savings. I love SAand tried to beat JD but couldn't. They are still very helpful with other things though.
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I never used smart actions but I juice defender and it lags the hell out of my phone so ill never use it again. What is smart actions anyways?
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I never used smart actions but I juice defender and it lags the hell out of my phone so ill never use it again. What is smart actions anyways?
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There are small lags with any app that disable and re-enable data connection when sync start. This occurs also with smart action: it's a Android operating system issue
i am going to give Smart Actions a try.
I have used JD and it works great but, does add a lag when device is return active.
don't forget to set your built in "Task Manager" to auto-kill the apps you don't need running once your phone's display is off for a few minutes...
I use them together. They are more effective when used together.
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I use them together. They are more effective when used together.
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Just curious, what setting do you have juice defender set to. I bought it today and tried to customize it. 2 days ago I suddenly had Motorola Services show up eating a high percentage of time and my Barry life has gone down. It shows CPU total at 17 minutes and keep awake at 4 hours and 18 minutes. I have been on battery for 5 hours and am down to 62%.
I had free JD running as well and had for a while. I might change from customized to a default. My battery life has gone south since this Motorola services showed up out of no where.
I personally don't use S.A. I use juice defender ultimate & tasker... Both are excellent programs... Taller is the same thing as smart actions but a thousand times more powerful and customizable..
I use SA, it is not perfect but it is pretty easy to use. One thing I wish for is when I disconnect my bluetooth, quit pandora if it is running.
i tried juice defender ultimate but the phone went hot, use smart action instead. i bet having both of them would be conflicting.
Smart Actions are useful and slightly more customizable, but JD has way more options to help save battery & can do AOSP helper type stuff. Definitely siding with JD
Turned off SA's, installed JD ultimate, the first day's results are :
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I barely got 8-10 hours with SA's before. JD ftw.
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don't forget to set your built in "Task Manager" to auto-kill the apps you don't need running once your phone's display is off for a few minutes...
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How would I go about doing that?
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I too would like to know?
Can you guys post your Smart Actions Settings for battery life?
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+1
we need to learn more
tried
1. SA and JD both at the same time - phone get hot, poor battery
2. JD stand alone - slow, missing emails, long time to reconnect (annoying). poor battery
3. back to SA standalone (with setcpu)..it gets better now, around 7-10% per hour with similar use. this is the best i got, so far.
phone is rooted and few apps/bloatware frozen.
i have used JD from nexus one days in 2010, and didn't work for me.
Smart actions i believe works in a much more reasonable way than juice defender which is a terrible app when you use the free version and I have yet to really test the payed version.
Other than that I still would put my vote on smart actions mostly because Juice defenders method is to turn off features of the phone to save battery life which would stop things like email and facebook (for example) from updating on a live basis.
Also I've yet to see either app have the function to auto switch 4G on when you unlock the phone.
I am going to give credit to smart actions here just because the free version comes with more options than the payed version of juice defender and lets you build its battery saving protocols rather than using a menu to pick the ones the dev thought up.
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Just wanted to show my battery life after i got a new battery sent to me from Motorola, I knew it was the battery and not my phone
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Nice..how did u get them to send u a battery?
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Nice..how did u get them to send u a battery?
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i just called them up, my phone was still in warranty, so i had one free replacement, just give support a call, let them know your having battery issues and you should be able to get one
Yep, this phone rules. Love the fact that it works so good as a PHONE too, the way they all should. Motorola has it down. My best since the latest update was over 40 hours, with a few hours worth of phone calls.
Wow that's awesome. Now did you do anything else special like turning off data etc.
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What were you getting before?
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Wow that's awesome. Now did you do anything else special like turning off data etc.
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I use custom data saver mode set to turn off data automatically after 15 min all day and night. That way I don't have to bother switching data on and off manually. Plus, it comes on very fast when I turn the screen on. I do keep BT and WIFI off when not in use, brightness at 25%. I also use the built in task killer to auto kill a few apps that want to keep running, like Facebook. I'm locked, but rooted running stock rom, and I used battery calibrator app after the update which helped. Although, before the update I was getting pretty much the same battery life.
And with me, believe it or not, I have the brightness all the way down, (you'd be surprised how bright the screen still is!!!!!) That's my only real secret to even better battery life
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I did the same thing with moto, except i was getting great battery life to begin with. I just wanted a second battery.
One thing that I don't get though is why the phone always wakes up on it's own. My heroc and Evo 3D didn't do that, with the same apps installed. It kinda concerns me.
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One thing that I don't get though is why the phone always wakes up on it's own. My heroc and Evo 3D didn't do that, with the same apps installed. It kinda concerns me.
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Just wanted to post new battery settings:
- Running Skinny ROM, unlocked, rooted
- Actually stopped overclocking the phone - max is 1000 Mhz
- Undervolt @ -75mV
- Juice Defender - Customized Settings (wondering if Aggressive is better)
- I did go through two nights on Airplane mode 14hrs
- Alarm I hear is what causes the phone to be "awake" at night...
Well, I'd say it's been pretty impressive...though I didn't text much and wasn't on too many phone calls, I'd say 24 hours of use w/ 10% left isn't too shabby. I could have probably gotten another couple of hours.
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I use custom data saver mode set to turn off data automatically after 15 min all day and night. That way I don't have to bother switching data on and off manually. Plus, it comes on very fast when I turn the screen on. I do keep BT and WIFI off when not in use, brightness at 25%. I also use the built in task killer to auto kill a few apps that want to keep running, like Facebook. I'm locked, but rooted running stock rom, and I used battery calibrator app after the update which helped. Although, before the update I was getting pretty much the same battery life.
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Can you tell me the name of the application?
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Battery calibrator...check in market
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Which battery saver do you guys prefer? I've been using juice defender for a while not but its been slacking so im just wondering what YOU prefer to use to make your battery last longer!
I'm curious about this as well.
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i've seen alot of folks like Juice Defender. there are 3 variants, free and two paid versions which are smarter and more proactive. you can read about them in the market. i'm just sharing that, but i have only tried the free version, and it hasn't done too much for me, but i'm probably not what some would call a power user. check out the details at the market.
I don't use any..... no task killer either.
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I don't use any..... no task killer either.
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Does your battery last pretty long?
I used Juice Defender Pro for several months and finally did some testing. In my case, the program was using as much "juice" as it was saving. YMMV depending on how you use your phone. I don't use a task killer either.
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I used Juice Defender Pro for several months and finally did some testing. In my case, the program was using as much "juice" as it was saving. YMMV depending on how you use your phone. I don't use a task killer either.
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Hm. Okay screw task killers from now on lol. Lets see how that goes for me. I have a bad habit of wanting to kill everything
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Does your battery last pretty long?
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I get about 4 hrs of screen on Tim with 16 total hrs and 15-20% remaining.
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Yeah, I don't use any. No task killers either.
I tried Juice Defender back on my captivate, because I started to get horrendous battery life on that, it didn't help at all. I even had the paid version. If you're just looking to save battery, UC and UV is the way to go. I UC to 1GHz and UV quite a bit. Just flashed a newer version of MIUI and a new version of Init.Doh, so we'll see how this is. Most I got with MIUI+Siyah+Init.Doh was around 27 hours, with eleven hours of screen on time, only once though, must've been a good charge.
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I get about 4 hrs of screen on Tim with 16 total hrs and 15-20% remaining.
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Do you use any custom battery saving tweaks using Llama or Tasker?
Right now I am testing out Turkbey v32 on DD 1/30/2012 and KH7. With few Llama tweaks, am able to get about 17 hrs with about 2.5hrs screen on time, 2 hrs talktime and about 1.5 hrs of podcast.
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Task killers work if you have a rogue app that refuses to let go of processor time and memory resources. Otherwise, let android do its job and manage its resources.
I've found that Easy Battery Saver works likw a charm in saving battery. And its free.
Undervolting works fine enough for me. No need for a juice defender style app. I also keep my screen on a low brightness setting unless watching a video and turn off wifi and data when not using them. Other then that...I just make sure I'm not running an app in the known battery drainers thread.
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Juice defender does a pretty good job.
Im running voltage control with the illusion ROM and getting crazy good battery life. But i have tryed juice defender pro and even with it all tweaked out it still was burning more battery than not having it. At that time i think i was running coz or tasks ics'd out. I must say a simple task manager is more efficient on my end. But also a ROM that goes in deep sleep really helps on the battery (little off subject!)
Hope it helps someone out there.
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In my experience I've found that Juice Defender Ultimate with the extreme setting works well with GB. Manages the data connections well and goes well with using Autokiller (Task killer app). Ultimate is the paid version, and I get 48+ hours with average use (music, occasional wifi/3g, Calls). The free version (limited options) was better than nothing.
Anyway, I cant seem to get the same experience with ICS. It seems to be taking more juice than saving it. Anyone with any recommendations for this? I'm using an SGS2.
I used juice defender ultimate with advanced (my own personal preferences) settings - but unnamed 2.2.1 overrides JD no matter what I do. Maybe I'd do better with uninstall for now
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I've found that Easy Battery Saver works likw a charm in saving battery. And its free.
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I did some testing with this app and it seems to work pretty good. It's not a big savings, but it helps people who are lazy. Turns off 3g/wifi/bluetooth/etc when you turn the screen off, which helps save a lot of battery.
I tried juice defender but never saw any improvement in battery life.
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I tried juice defender but never saw any improvement in battery life.
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Same here
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Found this neat battery management app from the makers of go launcher ex. after using it for a few days I have found what it estimates to be fairly spot on. Have you guys tried it?
Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.gowidget.gopowermaster
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I've been using GO apps since getting my Note back in February. The Power Master app is very good. I have tried different power saving apps and was never really satisfied. Also, what font are you using on your Note?
The font is called "Droid" I installed it using RomToolBox by jRummy.
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I've been using GO apps since getting my Note back in February. The Power Master app is very good. I have tried different power saving apps and was never really satisfied. Also, what font are you using on your Note?
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Thanks for the app suggestion
First day using it and I'm at 63 percent after 16 hours and the app estimates 10 more hours of battery life
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I'm not sure I see the purpose. I've tried both Juice Defender and GreenPower, and those both are capable of extending my battery automatically by managing the radios (at the cost of untimely notifications), but everything in GO Power is already built into the phone (except for estimated time remaining).
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I'm not sure I see the purpose. I've tried both Juice Defender and GreenPower, and those both are capable of extending my battery automatically by managing the radios (at the cost of untimely notifications), but everything in GO Power is already built into the phone (except for estimated time remaining).
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Go Power Master aims to take the time consuming setup & micro-management out of the process by handling most of everything for you.
I used it for a few days but it wasnt for me.
Personally, I use Tasker and Battery Widget Pro.
Tasker (something like $8 on the market) gives you all the functionality of Juice Defender and GreenPower but it also gives you MANY more options than any other app of this kind (automation on your phone). Tasker isnt specifically for saving battery power, its about automating process for you so you dont have to think about it and if you think about it, some of the things you do may be for the express purpose of saving battery life but could also be for other purposes.
One of the MANY automated Tasker scripts I run automatically turns off nearly every radio on the phone when I am more than 200 feet away from the house. Another automatically turns the phone ringer off when I place it on my inductive charger (when its on the charger, I dont want phone calls because I usually will be sleeping).
However, Tasker comes at a huge price, first it is fairly expensive for an app but the bigger issue is the learning curve. Yes, there is a ton of documentation for it but essentially, every task you create is a small logic gate and if you are not familiar with basic programming or have a good grasp of basic math and minor algebra (greater than, lesser than, etc.), you may run into some difficulties getting it to do what you want it to.
Battery Widget Pro tells me EXACTLY what is going on with my battery, sometimes killing me with TMI (too much information). When I see something out of the norm with regards to battery life, I can tap the battery widget and see exactly what has been going on since the day I installed the app (it lets me go back as far as I want to see battery information).
Hey guys anyone know from experience which Rom gives you the very best battery life? I'm a somewhat heavy user and trying to get my note to last me through the day. Or the best tweaks that don't take away too much from performance and convience? Thanks a ton.
No one rom does, everyone will claim the rom they use does
I'm a heavy user
No rom will give me 2 days, although folks will claim it
It all depends on how you use your phone
If you're a "light" user, then any rom will give you long life cuz you're not using your phone
Best thing is to put a screen filter app on any rom you choose, that'll extend your life since the screen is biggest hog
Or wait til we get kernels with undervolting
In my experience the people that constantly complain about battery life are horrible at managing their device. If you don't have ****ty apps spying on you while running unnecessary processes in the background you a should get through the whole day. my note comes off the charger at 9am and has about 15% battery left by 2am. That's with plenty of screen on time and watching an episode from hulu on 4g. I am on wifi about 70% of the day though. Screen off timeout is set to 1 minute and weather and stock updates every 4 hours.
I download nothing unless the app maker is well known and trusted and I believe that is important. Some live wallpapers want full network access.no thank you.
P.s. Don't use the one percent battery meter.ignorance its bliss trust me. I'm so much happier not knowing the exact percentage.
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Well right now I don't have anything running (climbing on OP feed)
Startup Manager I have bought which supposedly will stop programs at startup. Any thoughts? I've read where it ia better to let things run naturally. I have about 100 apps.
Samsung has built in power saver? Used from time to time..anyone else use this? Juice defender better?
There is a spreadsheet pn here that says gives unnecessary apps we can delete. Suggested???
Without creating another similar thread would love to hear some thoughts.
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I just went back to the Note. I have very few apps other than stock. My main usage is exchange email, web, calls and texts. Running stock I get about 9 hours or so depending on calls.
My only gripe is when I do travel and use GPS Navigation the car charger struggles to keep up even with the screen off. Hope a new kernel will resolve this issue
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Its all comes down to user experience
No rom is the best
No rom has the best battery
No rom has the best features
Try them all out and see which works out best for you
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My only gripe is when I do travel and use GPS Navigation the car charger struggles to keep up even with the screen off. Hope a new kernel will resolve this issue
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The problem isn't your kernel it is your car charger. The note has higher requirements than most phones. I have a car charger that won't even be recognized as connected.
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You can't really say ones the best but cm9 is giving me great battery life
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My only gripe is when I do travel and use GPS Navigation the car charger struggles to keep up even with the screen off. Hope a new kernel will resolve this issue
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It's not as much of a kernel issue as it is a characteristic of the hardware. No amount of kernel tuning will magically allow, say, the display to consume less power while being at the same brightness. Make sure your car charger is capable of putting out the full 1 A current that the Note can pull. If you are running with the screen at full brightness, GPS for Navigation, 4G data to pull down map tiles, and Bluetooth to your car, the Note will need about 1 A of power. Check the Accessories forum for many threads on which car adapters and USB cables will work with the Note. I am using a Bracketron 12V adapter, and it is able to keep up with the Note running full tilt.
Out of all I've tried, so far KING KANG from DaGr8 has given me the best battery life.
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Hig guys my battery life isnt very good , it drains in day with almost no use. Brightness on 25 , Data is Off and also the service location is off .
Anyone knows how to fix this.
I bought the phone because of the battery
And also i bought is last saturday.
Can you post your battery stats?
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U should reset ur phone. G2 battery is very awesome. I turn on everything 3g, WiFi, sync, Facebook, viber, ... And I use my phone to read news whenever I have time, so my screen time on of my phone one day is usually 4 hours. Everyday I get home with approx 40% of battery. But one thing I recommend u is u should buy the app lux auto brightness replace for stock auto brightness. I was really surprise after I installed that app, it save for my about one hour screen time.
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Download "Better Battery Stats" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
Take a look at the wakelocks, alarms and see what is keeping your phone awake.
Also , posting a screenshot of your battery life graph would be beneficial.
Cheers !
Edit: Agree with quachhanthanh about Lux Auto Brightness. Totally worth the money , even though the free app does its job admirably.
Ah good idea with lux auto brightness.
I will test this too.
The stock auto brightness never works good on my phone.
Bad batteryaybe
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Bad batteryaybe
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What?
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he sad bad battery maybe.
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Ah ok thank you , could have known that myself
It really helps to know the stats to start. A rogue app or service can cause a lot of issues. I had a contact sync issue that drained my battery quickly. Found and fixed.
I use greenify(really good for battery life) and also under google settings, I mean the app you have called google settings, uncheck all those things you dont need including under Android Device Manager -> Remotely locate this device. I disabled alot of things in there. If you need to leave wifi on you can also change your wifi scan intervals to like 360 in the build.prop. Thats just for starters.
Great battery here!
As has been said, a battery graph will help out a great deal. If you have a rogue app, it will show a higher percentage of usage than other similar apps. If services really high, you might want to take a look at exactly which services are running. Be sure to always disable any you don't actually use. Also make sure your screen is set to turn off quickly, or use that nifty knock off feature. One last thing, if you are in a spotty coverage area, your radio will broadcast at maximum power trying to find a tower. That searching will kill any battery.
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I'm getting horrible battery life.. About 2.5 hours screen time with 45% left. Screen has only used 20% of the battery.. its mostly being used up by Android System (33%) and Android OS(13%). I've got wakelock detector installed and its saying most of the time my phone is in deep sleep... God know's what's the issue.
P.S: I'm even using DS Battery Saver to force deep sleep... I really don't know why the OS and system are using so much battery!
P.S: Using better battery stats, it seems I'm having the activity manager causing wakelocks and the alarm rtc and powermanager service causing wakelocks... anyone has any idea how to stop this?
Almost 40hr with 4.35hr of screen time and still 38% left.
What can i say. I am happy
in two days and im with 20% , is that good or bad?
with normal use
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in two days and im with 20% , is that good or bad?
with normal use
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Depends on what you do with the phone. I can drop 20% in like 3hrs easily using spotify alone.
At the moment im at 37h 12m with 3h 8m screen on. Im at 40%.
Here are my stats. I wonder why there's such a variance between different phones. Do LG source batteries from many different manufacturers? Maybe they don't do enough QA on the batteries? Battery life for me isn't terrible compared to other Android phones I've used (many won't even last a day), but I definitely need to charge it every night.
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Here are my stats. I wonder why there's such a variance between different phones. Do LG source batteries from many different manufacturers? Maybe they don't do enough QA on the batteries? Battery life for me isn't terrible compared to other Android phones I've used (many won't even last a day), but I definitely need to charge it every night.
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Useless, can't see your app usage.
I recommend posting in the comparative battery analysis thread.
Make sure you post all screen shots otherwise OP will be on your case.
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Almost 40hr with 4.35hr of screen time and still 38% left.
What can i say. I am happy
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Wow, how did you manage that?
Hehehehehehehehe with moderate usage, kernel tweaks and a bunch of other battery saving stuff, i get insane battery life... this is my record
edit: in the screenshot, you can see thats in charging, thats because to get the screenies, i need to plug my phone to the charger to boot it up haha