I'm rooted @198_6...Locked
From my understanding you have to first unlock bootloader... to install CWM
And you need CWM to install ROMS..-only 2 so far...and what two ROM work on Lock bootloaders?
RE-Lock bootloader via Pudding remover or SBR lastest build...to retain 4g
Install bootstap recovery
Install Upadtes t ROM thru BOOTstrap
when you relocl bootloader ...will that remove CWM?
Thanks
If you flash a SBF, it will restore you back to a stock android recovery, aka you wont have CWM. And you could run Jokers Skinny4g rom, i think there may be another P-Rom or two but i couldnt say for sure. I'm personally running CM7 overclocked at 1.4 and i love it every bit. If 4g is a must have for you then you may want to look at just P-Roms, or relocking to maintain 4g. And yes, you have to unlock bootloader, then install CWM, and then your ready to flash away with roms/kernels/etc.
Thanks ....still learning about this phone.
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so i'm about to install 4.5.91 in a few hours.. gonna backup lots of data first..
im trying to avoid bootloader unlocking for the meanwhile cause of the warranty issue and the fact u cannot re-lock.
anyway i just grabbed ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.rar and ill flash it over the gladiatrix 1.8.3 i have currently on the device (will it work?)
later i intend to use the preroot method and root and of course.. install a recovery BUT.. since the new recovery needs an unlocked bootloader.. ill use the previous one with the battery charging hack
so.. what do you think guys? will it work?
p0xer said:
so i'm about to install 4.5.91 in a few hours.. gonna backup lots of data first..
im trying to avoid bootloader unlocking for the meanwhile cause of the warranty issue and the fact u cannot re-lock.
anyway i just grabbed ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.rar and ill flash it over the gladiatrix 1.8.3 i have currently on the device (will it work?)
later i intend to use the preroot method and root and of course.. install a recovery BUT.. since the new recovery needs an unlocked bootloader.. ill use the previous one with the battery charging hack
so.. what do you think guys? will it work?
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I would assume the att-2.3.4_pudding_preroot already is preunlocked (hence the pudding) which defeats your purpose?
Also, what would the purposed of the old plugged in Recovery? It won't install any of the new ROMs and I don't think the nandroid back up really works that well.
not quite.. its just have the "pudding" in it.. you'll have to perform an unlock with fastboot to void warranty.
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not quite.. its just have the "pudding" in it.. you'll have to perform an unlock with fastboot to void warranty.
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Ok, so the other question - point of the old recovery? Just to help you wipe data/cache/batterystats?
The old recovery will still save him... You shouldn't need to be unlocked to do that.
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The old recovery will still save him... You shouldn't need to be unlocked to do that.
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save him from what and how? other than wiping data... he can't flash anything that can save him...
Indeed I think he can backup with old tenfar's recovery. The problem is that the sfb he wants to flash is the incorrect one, you can't use the prerooted without unlock the BL at least for the version I know. In other hand The update process is kinda complicated without unlocking the BL, if you do it OTA you will also update the BL and that one can't be unlocked now also could leave you bricked if flash back to 1.8.3.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163342
gives stock 2.3.4 without touching bootloader.
you should be able to use preinstall method to root then i think.
He needs to unlock the BL to flash kennp image files.
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He needs to unlock the BL to flash kennp image files.
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yeah my bad.
Hello. The subject matter says it all.
I currently have a rooted and unlocked AT&T Atrix on 1.26 version (yeah...still in ice age ) with a locked bootloader. Im with a non-US telco carrier. It came unlocked and rooted so that was great. No hassle but now I have started doing research on custom roms and webtop mods. I am trying to get around the info overload, so pls bear with my questions.
The overall goal is to have a stock/custom rom devoid of all the bloatwares and can run webtop2sd, and if that is not possible then, webtop. Very simple needs.
Option 1
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To remain on stock rom and update to 1.83 version, and then to install the webtop2sd mod. Ideally I would like to boot off Debian from the microsd card. There was a post in which a forumer mentioned that he was able to "frankenstein" the webtop2sd and webtop mods. Thats great if I understood correctly.
Option 2
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To update to 4.5.91 (probably a custom rom like Aura) and then install the webtop2sd/webtop mod.
What should be done?
I am going to update 1.26 -> 1.57 -> 1.83 -> 4.5.91 via system update. (which means I now have to signed with moto account...yes I have not as I read that there were some privacy issues.)
Through the update process, I would lose root. To keep everything clean, I am going to go through factory reset and then perform the update.
Once I am in 1.83 or 4.5.91, I will apply the root and unlock the bootloader. Which is the best way to go about this? Should I just follow the instruction here or this way. Or is there any other better way?
This is all I have for now until I install the webtop mod or the custom rom...
update your phone to wherever you want it at, then use this script to unlock the bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
after that, you can easily root your phone using the preinstall method found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204 (second post)
if you update to 4.5.91 though, as you attempt to unlock the bootloader you will get a semi-hard brick, just have it boot up into fastboot mode and continue using the script. easy as pie!
I never got a semi-hard or *soft* brick from unlocking but that's just cause I must love to eat pudding =D . Do all the OTA updates, unlock / root, and then install the 2.3.4 fruitcake and install webtop. Best option by far, IMO, as far as the ease of transition goes. Should be cake. That's what I did and as long as you don't RSD lite with an .SBF back once on 2.3.4 OTA yer good to go.
eat yer fruitcake once updated to 2.3.4 OTA *stock gingerbread*-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
Install a custom kernel if ya wanna overclock or undervolt, I would personally suggest Faux123's. -http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
aaand freeeze all that bloatware!-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972459
I read that its easier to update via SBF than OTA? What have your experiences been so far?
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if you update to 4.5.91 though, as you attempt to unlock the bootloader you will get a semi-hard brick, just have it boot up into fastboot mode and continue using the script. easy as pie!
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Maybe I should try to unlock it now... And then update.
tech_girl said:
I read that its easier to update via SBF than OTA? What have your experiences been so far?
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well, i can't find it anymore but there is an SBF in the development forum that will allow you to update to 2.3.4 android without getting the brickable bootloader, but i personally don't see a point in using SBF. it's not meant for the end user, and using it can be risky.
SBF flashing is faster i believe, but as i said can also potentially harm your device if you're unsure of what you're doing.
SamCripp, one of the most esteemed devs here, suggests for the average person to completely stay away from sbf flashing after you've unlocked your bootloader unless you absolutely have to use it for something.
remember though, if you use the OTA update you CANNOT downgrade your device through SBF flashing, you HAVE to use the fruitcakes method. it WILL brick your device to downgrade, but only with the OTA update.
EDIT: and it's a semi-hard brick, it doesn't hurt your device in the least. you might panic at first, but it's as simple as booting into fastboot mode and finishing the script. or if you're more tech inclined, you can just do the fastboot oem unlock command through fastboot.
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eat yer fruitcake once updated to 2.3.4 OTA *stock gingerbread*-....
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remember though, if you use the OTA update you CANNOT downgrade your device through SBF flashing, you HAVE to use the fruitcakes method.....
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Fruitcakes??? All this jargon.... Hmmm...gotta check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
yep, Fruitcakes. it's a CWM alternative to sbf flashing, much safer since it doesn't edit the bootloader at all, so there's no risk in hard bricking your device.
after you unlock your bootloader, you should install Romracer's CWM recovery here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
do all of your flashing through CWM after you unlock your bootloader, just remember to clear cache/dalvik/data between each ROM or you might get stuck in a bootloop.
Ok...CWM sounds more familiar....
If I understand correctly, I actually dont have to go via OTA. As long as I have the img file for flashing to each version, I could just use the CWM and not via OTA, right?
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Ok...CWM sounds more familiar....
If I understand correctly, I actually dont have to go via OTA. As long as I have the img file for flashing to each version, I could just use the CWM and not via OTA, right?
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well, you have to have an unlocked bootloader to get CWM. and to unlock your bootloader, you have to update to 1.8.3 or later.
after you unlock your bootloader, you can install CWM and proceed to just use CWM for your flashing needs.
i repeat again though, after you unlock your bootloader you should stay away from SBF flashing altogether. it's the quickest way to brick your device.
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well, you have to have an unlocked bootloader to get CWM. and to unlock your bootloader, you have to update to 1.8.3 or later.
after you unlock your bootloader, you can install CWM and proceed to just use CWM for your flashing needs.
i repeat again though, after you unlock your bootloader you should stay away from SBF flashing altogether. it's the quickest way to brick your device.
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Once you unlock and get CWM installed its just a case of wiping the device and flashing zip files.
Yep after unlocking and getting rom racers cwm in, you get to have lots of fun and almost zero chance of hard bricking. Make sure you understand the pudding part. After you unlock throw rsd lite away.
After updating to 1.83 and unlocked, can I immediately installing a GB custom rom like Aura or Alien? Or do I need to update to 4.5.91 stock before I can install a custom rom? Which I assume is pre-rooted, which mean I dont have to root it..
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After updating to 1.83 and unlocked, can I immediately installing a GB custom rom like Aura or Alien? Or do I need to update to 4.5.91 stock before I can install a custom rom? Which I assume is pre-rooted, which mean I dont have to root it..
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You should be able to start flashing if you used pudding. No need to upgrade to .91 stock. I didn't. I think most roms are pre rooted now. Not that the rooting method was hard for the atrix.
I voided my warranty.
pukemon said:
You should be able to start flashing if you used pudding. No need to upgrade to .91 stock. I didn't. I think most roms are pre rooted now. Not that the rooting method was hard for the atrix.
I voided my warranty.
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Yep thats how it works. once BL unlocked and CWM installed you can flash anything, including yes .91 stock.
Note that .91 stock OTA is not only the operating system but also modifies the bootloader hence all the hard brick warnings about flashing sbfs. When you flash zip files you don't touch the bootloader, so there is no chance of hard bricking. i.e. if you flash .91 stock from zip file from CWM as opposed to OTA, you get only the OS, not the bootloader update (which doesn't matter ).
Need some help please.
I have Telstra Atrix with ota gingerbread, unlocked BL, rooted.
I can't get it to boot into cwm recovery.
I installed ROM Manager from market, flashed CWM 2.0.2.0 , selected Reboot into Recovery but it only gets to the triangle. From there I can hold down Vol Up+VolDown and get to Basic Android recovery.
I have deleted the racing car app as suggested in one thread to make room, but no help.
If I power off and boot it from Power+Vol Down it comes up "Failed to boot 2"
Can't find a solution in XDA or Google. Any help appreciated.
See if you can fastboot flash a recovery image
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Most likely need to delete "install-recovery.sh" @ /system/etc, if it's there, then try re-installing CWM Recovery, and see if that works.
Thanks fellas.
Turns out I had lost my unlock BL by flashing the Telstra Froyo sbf from the xda Atrix Firmwares Superthread.
Reflashed the pudding and it's unlocked again. Actually romracer explained it better in his thread. I thought you couldn't relock bootloader. CWM recovery works now.
Thanks fellas.
Turns out I had lost my unlock BL by flashing the Telstra Froyo sbf from the xda Atrix Firmwares Superthread.
Reflashed the pudding and it's unlocked again. Actually romracer explained it better in his thread. I thought you couldn't relock bootloader. CWM recovery works now.
U can't actually relock the boot loader, it "Burns a fuse" inside the unit when u unlock. But flashing an .sbf makes it appear as if it's locked again.
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Phalanx7621 said:
U can't actually relock the boot loader, it "Burns a fuse" inside the unit when u unlock. But flashing an .sbf makes it appear as if it's locked again.
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Yeah thanks. Romracer explained it to me. It doesn't seem to be common knowledge at all. So people flashing sbf's of stock roms are effectively losing root. I spent hours trying to figure it out and get info searching and asking questions. Anyway, all good now and I appreciate the assistance.
On another point do you know how I can get the Telstra radio so I can use it with custom roms? My phone use is way better since installing Telstra stock Gingerbread ota. If I flash another rom I'll lose it won't I? It is N_01.100.00R
Edit: thanks to @Msd24200 and @marko! for pointing out that Radio remains unchanged when flashing cm7. Also discovered where to get the zip of this radio if I lose it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15787709&postcount=1
Sorry for the noob question, but do these ROMs require the phone to be rooted?
Yes, all ROM's require the phone to be rooted.
yo
Start out with HTC Unlock. Lots of info on this site about it.
Then install a custom rom. It will already be Rooted,
After you've learned more, then you make it S-0ff.
Then you can go backward and forward in radio and other
options without worries.
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Yes, all ROM's require the phone to be rooted.
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Wrong. You don't need root. You need to unlock the boot loader. All instructions for that are in HTCDev.com
you need to Unlock your bootloader first in order to flash a Recovery like CWM or AmonRA which will then allow you to flash/install rooted roms.
Note: if you are on Gingerbread and are going to flash an ICS rom, PLEASE download the required kernel they provide for you to flash as well as the ICS rom. but kernels are flashed through the bootloader/hboot and not in recovery. unless your S-off. if your'e S-on, flash kernels in bootloader.
Hi,
As we all know unless we downgrade and stuff, or install custom recoveries (which require some hackeries) we can't root the latest firmware.
I came across this method: http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Rooting
It uses the original boot.img and edits it then using fastboot it flashes it with the su binaries and security turned off.
Would this work on our Xperia?
Thanks
Probably, but you'd need to unlock your bootloader...
That kind of defeats the purpose. I'm trying to not do that
I want to be able to install OTA updates and support.
You can alway relock back once rooted. By that, you can OTA update safely and keep rooting
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worf_1977 said:
You can alway relock back once rooted. By that, you can OTA update safely and keep rooting
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Ok so if I follow that guide to get root, unlock bootloader, flash the new boot, and relock bootloader, I will be able to install OTA?
Won't that brick my device since I have a modified boot.img?
In order to relock the bootloader you must firdt change back to a stock kernel, otherwise you will brick the phone, wich luckily is recoverable...
Even if yo relock on custom kernel, you will also can enter in fastboot mode to flash stock one
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