Just got my NT, I do not want to root it for the moment. I've ordered a 16gb micro sd from new egg and it wont come until wednesday ( 2 days ) thus I cannot download apps from the amazon app store as it saves the apps you dl to your sd card.
Where are you non rooted & non sd card users getting your apks from?
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Just got my NT, I do not want to root it for the moment. I've ordered a 16gb micro sd from new egg and it wont come until wednesday ( 2 days ) thus I cannot download apps from the amazon app store as it saves the apps you dl to your sd card.
Where are you non rooted & non sd card users getting your apks from?
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Probably side loaded from phones.
You can email them to yourself or go to a site that hosts Android Market .apk files.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351951&highlight=side+load Should be of some help.
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Just got my NT, I do not want to root it for the moment. I've ordered a 16gb micro sd from new egg and it wont come until wednesday ( 2 days ) thus I cannot download apps from the amazon app store as it saves the apps you dl to your sd card.
Where are you non rooted & non sd card users getting your apks from?
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Just an aside ... when I got my Original Droid, it took me about four months to work up the courage to root it, but once I did, I was so glad and never looked back. I got a Samsung Fascinate in February and rooted it the night I got it, and the first thing I did with my NT was root it as well. If you can follow instructions, it is painless, reversible, and awesome! A lot of devs have put in a lot of hard work to make it simple, so I say go for it.
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Just an aside ... when I got my Original Droid, it took me about four months to work up the courage to root it, but once I did, I was so glad and never looked back. I got a Samsung Fascinate in February and rooted it the night I got it, and the first thing I did with my NT was root it as well. If you can follow instructions, it is painless, reversible, and awesome! A lot of devs have put in a lot of hard work to make it simple, so I say go for it.
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Ahh... I remember the first device that spent a large amount of time modding. The old Motorola L7.
If you use the default browser, you can download and open the apk files for apps without an SD card. So if you can email them or find them online, that'll work.
Also, i was able to transfer apk files into the 'my files' folder via the usb cord, and run them from there without downloading or using my SD card.
I understand that you can e-mail yourself apk's and install them, or even load them up onto the nook itself and install it that way - installing them isn't my issue.
My issue is the fact I do not have an SD card ( yet... Damnit NewEGG.. I even paid for 2 day shipping and I ordered it Thursday night yet you JUST shipped it last night )
Without an SD card I cannot Download from the Amazon App Store - as anything downloaded there goes onto your SD card - which I do not have
I do not have access to the Android market place since I am not Rooted and won't be until I get comfortable with my Nook.
My question is simple: Where the hell can I get safe to download & Updated .APK's?
Throw me a hint as I'm clueless and simple google searching the name of an App and adding APK Download at the end - very, very tedious to find a single app that is the latest build
Mageshadow said:
I understand that you can e-mail yourself apk's and install them, or even load them up onto the nook itself and install it that way - installing them isn't my issue.
My issue is the fact I do not have an SD card ( yet... Damnit NewEGG.. I even paid for 2 day shipping and I ordered it Thursday night yet you JUST shipped it last night )
Without an SD card I cannot Download from the Amazon App Store - as anything downloaded there goes onto your SD card - which I do not have
I do not have access to the Android market place since I am not Rooted and won't be until I get comfortable with my Nook.
My question is simple: Where the hell can I get safe to download & Updated .APK's?
Throw me a hint as I'm clueless and simple google searching the name of an App and adding APK Download at the end - very, very tedious to find a single app that is the latest build
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Amazon's apps are finicky, you may have a lot of trouble using them without an SD card properly seated and detected in your device.
That said, there are a lot of safe site that you can use to download .apk. I know it's tedious to do this for every app, but without a smartphone to simply hit up the market and using Appinstaller (or the like) to extract .apk files you don't have a lot of options.
In other words, I'm SOL until my SD card arrives
Which means I'll be *****ing at NewEgg soon ( as soon as I'm done with this post actually )
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In other words, I'm SOL until my SD card arrives
Which means I'll be *****ing at NewEgg soon ( as soon as I'm done with this post actually )
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Not necessarily, you can still download apps from sites and don't forget all the great apps that are available here on XDA.
You're not going to get the Epicurious app or NYtimes app from here but if you need a utility just search this site for what you need. Alternatively, don't be afraid to ask the Themes/Apps forum to link you to downloads of apps that they are running safely.
Yeah, I getcha but you understand what I mean - I need to jump through some hurdles to get them.
Can't imagine if I hadn't of bought a SD card.. would of been SOL for real, lol
Apktop.com has alot of apps
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Check out Share Apps. Install on your phone, then email your favorite apps to yourself. It sends you the apk which you can then load on your NT.
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I tound that APKTOP.com is a good site to start with. There are many.
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I do not have a smart phone or any other tablet device other than my Nook Tablet.
Does this mean that I cannot buy certain paid apps? For example, if a paid app on the Android market says that it is incompatible with the NT, I will have no way to get it.
Fr3d,some apps simply don't work and some marketplsces require an SD card on your device to even download apps. You can avoid the incompatable thing from the android market place by googling the application and downloading the app from a third party website, but even then some apps simply don' t work.
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Ok so I have been on the phone all afternoon with verizon tech support and HTC support and i have gotten no where I apologize if this problem has been solved b4 i did extensive searches with no luck so here goes.
MY Stock Unrooted Thunderbolt is losing site of the apps that have been moved to my sd card on boot. So basically i have a majority of my apps on my tbolt saved to sd card to save space on the actual phone. Some of the apps were moved manually through the applications and others were moved using ZDbox as they were installed and moved. My phone has been this way for sometime with no problem. Now about 3 days ago my phone was acting really slow and just not working properly showing signs it needed to be rebooted so i rebooted it and once done booting i went to my apps and found several of the apps missing from my app drawer as well as the shortcuts on home screens. So verizon referred me to HTC who is blaming it on ZDbox they claim zdbox corrupted the app files somehow when it moved it to the sd card and if i uninstalled that they claim the problem should be solved. However I cant remove ZDBox due to my sd card not showing up that program seems to still be on the phone its self so it should be able to uninstall it but it just locks up when i try
now i could go on and on and on with what i have done but i was hopeing someone here maybe had a similar situation or knew of a way to fix this problem. I have the SD card backed up and all the app files are showing in the location they are suppose to be in but i just cant understand what would cause his problem.
ANY help would be great and i hope im not coming off as a noob i have been troubleshooting this for several days and do consider my self to be knowledgeable in this area but i have surpassed my experience with no luck and I am here hoeping someone out there has an idea !!!!
thanks again in advance
oh ya almost forgot verizon claimed a htc rep told them its a known problem and to just keep powercycling the phone and eventually it will see the apps but i never got them to say that to me they wanted to point straight to the third party app zdbox even after i told them not all the apps were moved by that app.
I was having a similar problem with my stock vzw galaxy tab I factory reset it and reinstalled only a select applications and seemed to solve it but i dont think i have that many apps on my tbolt (i had over 150 on my tab)
sounds like you have corruption on your sd card. I would pull it out of the phone, connect it to a pc and run a scandisk on it and let it correct any errors. Then I would back it up to the pc. After this I would put it back into the phone and see if the apps show up. If not, I would hound verizon or htc for a new sd card or new phone, their choice.
A friend of mine had the same issue and the only solution was to get rid of zdbox. The issue is:
The phone is not rooted and apps that get moved to the memory card that do not allow it natively will not show up (usually after a reboot) because the original location is not available when the phone or app looks for it.
To move them properly even most apps not meant to move, you have to root.
He also wound up having to reformat the sd card.
I would say to try the suggestion above and maybe you will have luck that way but my friend had to just leave the apps that dont move to sd on the phone. He still wont root even after he sees my phone and loves the things I can do with it.
Not sure why people are obsessed with moving Apps to the SD card. I put games on there but otherwise all the rest of my 100+ Apps are on the phone and I still have 1.7gb of free phone space.
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have you tried doing an sd card rescan?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bero.sdrescan
So if you are moving all of your apps to your SD card, what are you actually using your internal storage space for? I think doing that on a phone like the Thunderbolt isn't usually worth it. Combined with the problems moving the apps can cause, there really isn't much point to it.
Alright, I'm new to this forum, so I hope I'm not violating any rules, and if this is the wrong place to post this, I apologize.
Anyways, I've been trying to root my Nook Tablet with an SD card. I have been using WinImager to do this. I select the image to burn to the card, and then tell it to do it, but then it says something to the effect of "Are you sure you want to write to a phsycial device? This may corrupt the card." I hit "OK", and then it comes up with "Error 5: Access is Denied."
It is a SanDisk 8GB microSd card, and I am using the stock adapter that came with it. I put it in the SD card reader in my laptop, and I have made sure that the lock switch on the side is set to UNLOCK. The card was also ran through the clothes washer, but it still works fine in my NT.
Has anyone encountered this problem before? Is there a way to fix it?
Also, do roots allow you to access content previously purchased from the B&N store?
TIA
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Alright, I'm new to this forum, so I hope I'm not violating any rules, and if this is the wrong place to post this, I apologize.
Anyways, I've been trying to root my Nook Tablet with an SD card. I have been using WinImager to do this. I select the image to burn to the card, and then tell it to do it, but then it says something to the effect of "Are you sure you want to write to a phsycial device? This may corrupt the card." I hit "OK", and then it comes up with "Error 5: Access is Denied."
It is a SanDisk 8GB microSd card, and I am using the stock adapter that came with it. I put it in the SD card reader in my laptop, and I have made sure that the lock switch on the side is set to UNLOCK. The card was also ran through the clothes washer, but it still works fine in my NT.
Has anyone encountered this problem before? Is there a way to fix it?
Also, do roots allow you to access content previously purchased from the B&N store?
TIA
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I've run into that issue, but it happened on a card that failed completely. It won't format at all, or be read by any device I have.
Onto your rooting question: It will not affect content purchased through the B&N Store. Should you decide to install a ROM rather than the stock interface, any purchased media (books, magazines, etc) can also be accessed through the Nook app in the Play store. Apps, however, cannot.
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I've run into that issue, but it happened on a card that failed completely. It won't format at all, or be read by any device I have.
Onto your rooting question: It will not affect content purchased through the B&N Store. Should you decide to install a ROM rather than the stock interface, any purchased media (books, magazines, etc) can also be accessed through the Nook app in the Play store. Apps, however, cannot.
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Like I said, it still works in my NT, so I don't think that's the problem.
I'm sorry, but I'm rather new to the jailbreaking scene. What do you mean by installing a ROM instead of a stock interface?
Something from the development forum. CM10, AOKP, or something based on one of those. More of a genuine Android experience than the B&N interface.
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Something from the development forum. CM10, AOKP, or something based on one of those. More of a genuine Android experience than the B&N interface.
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Would it be easier to revert back to 1.4.0? I heard you could install the amazon app store on the side with that OS.
If you want to keep the B&N interface, sure.
If you don't care about that, you can always try out one of the ROMs in the dev section. Just make sure you read up on the installation instructions before you do.
Either way, there are also instructions on reverting back to 1.4.0 (even a rooted 1.4.0) in the dev section.
Is there any way to get the Amazon app store and still retain the content I already have from B&N?
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Is there any way to get the Amazon app store and still retain the content I already have from B&N?
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Just sideload the Amazon Appstore apk. I have attached a screenshot of the live koi fish wallpaper which has the Amazon and Playstore. If you like the wallpaper you can look in the general section. The Playstore says it is not compatible with Nook.
Can I still do that with 1.4.3? If so, how?
I didn't upgrade to 1.4.3 but understand it can be rooted like older versions of the stock rom .
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So I'm not sure if this is Samsung's fault or Androids. But I'm very disappointed with the Samsung Note 2 on Verizon, for one MAIN reason. The SD card is 16GB internal which honestly isn't very much. Everything you put on your phone is put onto the internal storage of the device instead of the " optional " SD card slot which I have a 32GB in there. WHY even have this option if you can't use it to put apps on it? My main beef with this is Google Play Music and Video's. Recently Google Play launched the service where it has unlimited streaming etc which is wonderful. Come to find out you can't change the directory of where it's put at. I am Rooted. I have tried beans ROM SD swap which STILL puts the music on the 16gb even though the swap says it did the transfer and I have 32GB free. I have looked for weeks and ran many scripts, use Rom Tool Box Pro and there is just no work around for this that I have found to work on my phone. Heck I even go to sdcard/data/android/come.google.android.music and yeah it has a data and file folder but there is NOTHING even in them, even when I cache my music in Google Play or click the " keep on device " Im so frustrated I don't even know what to do. I bought the new Die Hard movie yesterday which is 3GB and of course it saved it to my internal storage. The reason I wanted it on my phone is because I'm taking a trip to California soon and being a Verizon customer I only have 2GB of Data ( which sucks ) so Yeah. I know this is really my first post and I'm sorry to be ranting and raving but I have no IRL i can vent to about this because they will have NO clue what I am talking about. So besides beating my head on my keyboard, slicing my wrists or throwing the phone away does ANYONE have some good advice on what to do with my whole situation?
Hope everyone has a good memorial day weekend. Thanks All.
I hate this too, but I think both are to blame. I blame Google for no longer allowing us to install apps to the SD card, and for not allowing developers to install additional game content to the SD card. I'm not sure if this is the fault of Samsung, but why did they call the internal memory sdcard instead of internal? Every app that defaults to the external card such as Titanium Backup thinks the internal "sdcard" is actually the sdcard, because I seem to recall that on my Thunderbolt Google Play Music always downloaded songs to the external card.
Having expandable memory is pretty pointless for me, because the only thing I can use it for it TWRP backups, Titanium Backups, Pictures, and manual files that I copy over. I need more memory for apps, app data, and Google Play Music files.
I have my camera setup to save pictures to my SD Card and my music is also saved there and I'm not rooted.
Just checked and Amazon MP3 files are stored on the internal memory.
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So you feel my pain geoff5093. If I knew this was going to happen I would of opted to find a "comparable" phome with 32gb internal but then I looked and everything has 16. This is really a remarkable device except for that fact. I think your right about it being both samsung and androids dault. I seem to remember on gingerbread OS you could move apps so I dont know why they would take a step back. Having the SD card on here is about as useless as a turd in a toilet. I doubt 4.2.2 will fix this issue as well. No clue what to do.
Also I came from the Samsung Galaxy Nexus which had 32gb internal and no SD and I was happy with that. Blah lol I need a beer!
So any of the apps2sd apps don't work no
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Thats correct or if it does say it moves it , it just tricks you to think you it is but in reality its putting everything on your internal memory.
Ah that sucks! Even those for root?
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Huh
So what's the problem.? There is plenty of space just use sd card put all movies and pics on it. Then use the program gl to sd to put large games on sd card. I have a 64gb sd card you should have no problem putting a 3gb movie of the phone
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So what's the problem.? There is plenty of space just use sd card put all movies and pics on it. Then use the program gl to sd to put large games on sd card. I have a 64gb sd card you should have no problem putting a 3gb movie of the phone
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The problem is google music and movies.. I cant just simple move the movies I buy or rent on google play to my sd card because the program doeant see them then.. I when I put music on my devie for google play it does the same thing.. Im *****ing because google wants u to buy their movies and music but dont give you a viable solution to store them and 16gb isnt a lot especially when apps and the system take almost have of the disk space. I realize I can take music from my computer and use the usb to transfer music but thats not what im trying to do.
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Okay well with movies bought through Google movies you can download them to do card via wifi once downloaded you can move them to sd of phone would that not accomplish what you want?
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So I'm not sure if this is Samsung's fault or Androids. But I'm very disappointed with the Samsung Note 2 on Verizon, for one MAIN reason. The SD card is 16GB internal which honestly isn't very much. Everything you put on your phone is put onto the internal storage of the device instead of the " optional " SD card slot which I have a 32GB in there. WHY even have this option if you can't use it to put apps on it? My main beef with this is Google Play Music and Video's. Recently Google Play launched the service where it has unlimited streaming etc which is wonderful. Come to find out you can't change the directory of where it's put at. I am Rooted. I have tried beans ROM .....
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Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285312
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Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285312
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Actually No I have not.. Have you tried it.. Thank you for showing me that thread I am goingbto check it out now and see what it all does and how it does it. Thank You
While I am checking this out.. Does any one know for sure where Google Play Music puts it's music? I thought and have read it was sdcard/data/Android/come.google.android.music but the Cache and File folder on there are completely empty... ( I am rooted and using root browser ) and if I add an entire album from google play to device it shows that my internal storage went down but I still can't see the files..
I am currently downloading that Master Clean app off of google play to see what it does.
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While I am checking this out.. Does any one know for sure where Google Play Music puts it's music? I thought and have read it was sdcard/data/Android/come.google.android.music but the Cache and File folder on there are completely empty... ( I am rooted and using root browser ) and if I add an entire album from google play to device it shows that my internal storage went down but I still can't see the files..
I am currently downloading that Master Clean app off of google play to see what it does.
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I did a Google search and found the music files I had downloaded but the files, according to the post I found, said they were only findable in Root Explorer for some odd reason. They were also in a odd place if I remember correctly. I wish I could find that post again, but maybe try Root Explorer and try Googling Google Music location if you haven't already.
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So that master clean does not work like stated.. was worth a shot. Wish I knew how to properly run a script to get everything to work.
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I did a Google search and found the music files I had downloaded but the files, according to the post I found, said they were only findable in Root Explorer for some odd reason. They were also in a odd place if I remember correctly. I wish I could find that post again, but maybe try Root Explorer and try Googling Google Music location if you haven't already.
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After a few unsuccessful attempts to locate where Google stores the files I gave Root Explorer a shot and it works. The music files are stored as mp3s in /data/data/com.google.android.music/files/music and the tracks are renamed (such as 3947.mp3 etc.). I currently have one album pinned on the device, the album has 14 tracks and there are 14 mp3 files in the folder stated above. Now, I expected the tracks to be protected and not playable in other music player apps (or on other devices) but I was kind of hoping that after I move them to my external microSD, Google Play Music would still be able to play those - which is not the case... *sigh
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After a few unsuccessful attempts to locate where Google stores the files I gave Root Explorer a shot and it works. The music files are stored as mp3s in /data/data/com.google.android.music/files/music and the tracks are renamed (such as 3947.mp3 etc.). I currently have one album pinned on the device, the album has 14 tracks and there are 14 mp3 files in the folder stated above. Now, I expected the tracks to be protected and not playable in other music player apps (or on other devices) but I was kind of hoping that after I move them to my external microSD, Google Play Music would still be able to play those - which is not the case... *sigh
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I've always wondered where it was stored, thanks! Now I can download the songs from All Access
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I've always wondered where it was stored, thanks! Now I can download the songs from All Access
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Yup, you can download as many as you can fit on your internal storage. The problem is not being able to play the songs once moved to a different location (unless youre perhaps aware of a method to do so?).
Hi guys I'm planning to buy 128GB micro sd
any suggestions? I'm planning to get this PNY 128gb MicroSD
I think ultra its only up to 64GB
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I think ultra its only up to 64GB
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I see.. but I saw Sandisk 128GB micro sd is compatible with Z ultra
That its good news
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That its good news
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I saw it here , but I don't know if the other brand works too
I can confirm the sandisk 128gb card works on the Z Ultra. I am using it now.
wingzero said:
I can confirm the sandisk 128gb card works on the Z Ultra. I am using it now.
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thank you, I guess I'll just get that one.
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I think ultra its only up to 64GB
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Any device compatible with Micro SDXC will be able of interacting with a card of any size which conforms to that standard.
Sony only mentions 64GB because that was the largest size when the Togari was released, and so the device was tested against.
Fever09 said:
Hi guys I'm planning to buy 128GB micro sd
any suggestions? I'm planning to get this PNY 128gb MicroSD
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I have a 128gb Samsung in mine from Amazon and works perfectly fine it formats ok on the phone but I formatted it as exFat in windows to use the space better.
I purchased the following about a month ago. It is fast (to write) and worked right out of the box. Didn't reformat, like I have in the past but I have it almost filled with music, old TV shows, books, etc.
The Ultra with this card did an amazing job when I was in the frozen tundra for a couple of weeks on a business trip. Best android device I've ever owned.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O1M21H8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Hi guys I'm planning to buy 128GB micro sd
any suggestions? I'm planning to get this PNY 128gb MicroSD
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I bought this one and it works great on my Z Ultra GPE. I also use it with my Nexus 6 via an OTG. Works great on both after first formatting it in the Ultra.
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I bought this one and it works great on my Z Ultra GPE. I also use it with my Nexus 6 via an OTG. Works great on both after first formatting it in the Ultra.
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yea, PNY 128gb micro sd was on sale last week for $79. but I didn't purchase it because I'm still waiting for feedbacks
Fever09 said:
yea, PNY 128gb micro sd was on sale last week for $79. but I didn't purchase it because I'm still waiting for feedbacks
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Yeah, I got it a couple of weeks back at that price too! Before formatting it in the Ultra, I first followed the instructions at the following thread to remove the extra 16mb partition, which is useless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33768158
I then popped the card in my Ultra, and was able to format it perfectly! Beforehand, the Ultra wouldn't recognize it to even format it and I wasn't able to do it on my PC either, so the above definitely proved useful.
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Yeah, I got it a couple of weeks back at that price too! Before formatting it in the Ultra, I first followed the instructions at the following thread to remove the extra 16mb partition, which is useless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33768158
I then popped the card in my Ultra, and was able to format it perfectly! Beforehand, the Ultra wouldn't recognize it to even format it and I wasn't able to do it on my PC either, so the above definitely proved useful.
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good to know that! Thanks
I just ordered this beautiful phone and have been researching accessories. SD card would make sense but I'm curious what people use it for because I keep reading at various sites that it's not possible to move apps to SD card on this device (unlike on my Note 3). Is this true, and if yes what are we actually able to do with the SD card?
Thanks for any info.
tgdinamo said:
I just ordered this beautiful phone and have been researching accessories. SD card would make sense but I'm curious what people use it for because I keep reading at various sites that it's not possible to move apps to SD card on this device (unlike on my Note 3). Is this true, and if yes what are we actually able to do with the SD card?
Thanks for any info.
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You probably can achieve this without root with some app, but the best scenario would be to format the sdcard with either ext4 or f2fs for better performance.
Some kernels support f2fs.
This will increase performance a lot.
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SÜPERUSER said:
You probably can achieve this without root with some app, but the best scenario would be to format the sdcard with either ext4 or f2fs for better performance.
Some kernels support f2fs.
This will increase performance a lot.
Will be back. A bit busy now..
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Thanks. Would formatting the sdcard mean I will have to root to run apps installed on it? My concern is that this phone needs to be for work as well so I need to run Airwatch on it for company emails etc.
Unfortunately I think it's likely if I root the device Airwatch will have a problem with that because of some type of security restriction.
Does anyone know if at least music files and maps for gps apps like Sygic and Navigon can be stored on the SD card (while the music and gps apps themselves are installed in the 16GB internal memory)? Can this be done with stock rom (like I'm able to do with my Note 3)?
tgdinamo said:
Thanks. Would formatting the sdcard mean I will have to root to run apps installed on it? My concern is that this phone needs to be for work as well so I need to run Airwatch on it for company emails etc.
Unfortunately I think it's likely if I root the device Airwatch will have a problem with that because of some type of security restriction.
Does anyone know if at least music files and maps for gps apps like Sygic and Navigon can be stored on the SD card (while the music and gps apps themselves are installed in the 16GB internal memory)? Can this be done with stock rom (like I'm able to do with my Note 3)?
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Yes you will need to root your device in the first place to begin with.
You need root to be able to:
* Move or link apps/data to sdcard1
* Hide your root status
* Use an alternative file system on sdcard1
All the apps I found from a quick search, who handles these tasks require a rooted device.
Also If you want to increase performance by using ext4 or f2fs formatted card.
Formatting the sdcard can be done from either twrp recovery or via software on the computer if you have an sdcard reader.
Apps that can handle apps on external storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/apps2sd-partition-sd-card-link-apps-to-t3122919
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/android4-1-phones-rom-shortage-app-t3132914
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
Hiding root status.
There is a way to hide root status from specific apps
You can install Xposed framework and install the module
RootCloak
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
or
Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.phantasm.xposed.gfesecuritypatcher
I have never used an app like this so I have no idea if its working or not. And or if its working on lollipop if you have latest update installed on your mobile device.
RootCloat was updated 2014-01-14 and Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check was updated 2014-11-07 so both was updated a long time ago.
But I have seen many users around here on XDA who said it works good.
And sygic.
Sygic ask you to move system files to internal sd0 at first start if you placed them on sd1.
After this prompt it will do this for you. So it won't run from sdcard.
Edit: Music/multimedia files are fine to store on sd1. No problems there. I can't guarantee that stock walkman app can browse sd1. I have never used the app.
I have the app PlayerPro and DSPpack for codecs and it has worked fine for me since 2010. I've used the app on all my android devices over the years.
http://www.aplayerpro.com/
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Yes you will need to root your device in the first place to begin with.
You need root to be able to:
* Move or link apps/data to sdcard1
* Hide your root status
* Use an alternative file system on sdcard1
All the apps I found from a quick search, who handles these tasks require a rooted device.
Also If you want to increase performance by using ext4 or f2fs formatted card.
Formatting the sdcard can be done from either twrp recovery or via software on the computer if you have an sdcard reader.
Apps that can handle apps on external storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/apps2sd-partition-sd-card-link-apps-to-t3122919
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/android4-1-phones-rom-shortage-app-t3132914
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
Hiding root status.
There is a way to hide root status from specific apps
You can install Xposed framework and install the module
RootCloak
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
or
Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.phantasm.xposed.gfesecuritypatcher
I have never used an app like this so I have no idea if its working or not. And or if its working on lollipop if you have latest update installed on your mobile device.
RootCloat was updated 2014-01-14 and Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check was updated 2014-11-07 so both was updated a long time ago.
But I have seen many users around here on XDA who said it works good.
And sygic.
Sygic ask you to move system files to internal sd0 at first start if you placed them on sd1.
After this prompt it will do this for you. So it won't run from sdcard.
Edit: Music/multimedia files are fine to store on sd1. No problems there. I can't guarantee that stock walkman app can browse sd1. I have never used the app.
I have the app PlayerPro and DSPpack for codecs and it has worked fine for me since 2010. I've used the app on all my android devices over the years.
http://www.aplayerpro.com/
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Thanks very much for such detailed answer and advice! A lot of stuff to absorb but it should be fun to explore how all this may work.
SÜPERUSER said:
Yes you will need to root your device in the first place to begin with.
You need root to be able to:
* Move or link apps/data to sdcard1
* Hide your root status
* Use an alternative file system on sdcard1
All the apps I found from a quick search, who handles these tasks require a rooted device.
Also If you want to increase performance by using ext4 or f2fs formatted card.
Formatting the sdcard can be done from either twrp recovery or via software on the computer if you have an sdcard reader.
Apps that can handle apps on external storage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/apps2sd-partition-sd-card-link-apps-to-t3122919
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/android4-1-phones-rom-shortage-app-t3132914
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
Hiding root status.
There is a way to hide root status from specific apps
You can install Xposed framework and install the module
RootCloak
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak
or
Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.phantasm.xposed.gfesecuritypatcher
I have never used an app like this so I have no idea if its working or not. And or if its working on lollipop if you have latest update installed on your mobile device.
RootCloat was updated 2014-01-14 and Good for Enterprise Disable Root Check was updated 2014-11-07 so both was updated a long time ago.
But I have seen many users around here on XDA who said it works good.
And sygic.
Sygic ask you to move system files to internal sd0 at first start if you placed them on sd1.
After this prompt it will do this for you. So it won't run from sdcard.
Edit: Music/multimedia files are fine to store on sd1. No problems there. I can't guarantee that stock walkman app can browse sd1. I have never used the app.
I have the app PlayerPro and DSPpack for codecs and it has worked fine for me since 2010. I've used the app on all my android devices over the years.
http://www.aplayerpro.com/
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I've been playing with my new ZU (love it) and am still running stock (non-root) because of airwatch.
I have found out that many apps can be run from SD even if you don't root (can be moved there - same as on my Note 3).
As far as GPS apps, it turns out that Navigon can completely run from SD, and also it's maps can be stored on SD. The trick is to not move already installed Navigon app to SD - if you do that it will only move the app itself to SD but leave the maps in internal memory. Instead I had to do the following: 1. uninstall navigon 2. make sure SD card is inserted 3. install navigon again - then when you start the app the first time it will recognize the SD card and ask you where you want the maps installed. That worked perfectly for me and was able to reclaim 3GB of internal memory.
Unfortunately Sygic which is my prefered GPS app does not seem to have this option to install data on SD (never asked me about this during installation, and I don't see anything in the settings either).
Still, this is a good result - shows that when apps are designed properly the data can reside on SD without need for root.
Next task is to find a good car driving game which will want to completely live on SD (at least it's data since I assume if good graphics the game must be huge).
Hi I have a 16gb SD card in my Sony tablet that in the past I have moved a few apps over to, i have nearly filled up the tablets internal memory so decided to move a few more over after only moving one app I tried another which is 600mb but after a while I get a error saying their is not enough space left on the SD card when their is 10gb left anyone have any ideas why it would do this
Thanks in advance
I believe due to lollipop you're not able to move the whole app to the sd card. This ought to be changed in the marshmallows update. Unfortunately, without root, there is nothing you can do about it. Please correct me if I am wrong on this
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Guids said:
I believe due to lollipop you're not able to move the whole app to the sd card. This ought to be changed in the marshmallows update. Unfortunately, without root, there is nothing you can do about it. Please correct me if I am wrong on this
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That might be the case as the first app I tried was the Sonic CD game at 600mb but just tried my ebay app at 685mb and that moved straight over, only other difference between these apps is ebay is from the Google Play Store while Sonic was from the Amazon underground apps app do you know if you can't move the amazon underground apps ?
there are 2 programms which assist moving apps to sd. Link2SD is very good - you re-partition your sd card (e.g. if you have 64, you split it into 48gb fat and +16gb ext4 partition) and then you have extra 16gb for apps. It also can move obb files to sdcard, but wants you to upgrade to PRO version for this. Here, FolderMount app comes handy. It is made just to move obb files (this is what you usually get with big games). So, both apps, when used in parallel, allow you to move pretty much everything to sdcard. Both need root. That's what I use on other devices, and will try to replicate same setup on XZ3CT later today. But if it all sounds too complicated, maybe you need to wait for Android marshmallow couple of weeks, and it will allow you to fully use sdcard for apps.