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For those not interested in a good read, here is the condensed version
According to the opinion of many fellow Android members,
Hero > Moment
Evo > Epic
E3D ? SSG2
I think: E3D > SSG2
Trust history, not reviews focused on one single "bonus" feature provided by a company.
For those who do want to kill time
Well folks, as most of you have witnessed, we the customers of Sprint have once again found ourselves in a predicament. On one hand, we have the brand new HTC Evo 3d and on the other we have the SSGS2/Photon/non-E3D phone. And as it stands, people have been negatively criticizing the E3D for a multitude of reasons, primarily its 3D effect. As long winded as this introduction is, there is a point to it. For the past couple years now we have faced a decision of whether or not to get an HTC device or a Sammy device. Now granted the GS2 isn't released or announced, but we know its coming. What I am trying to say is that we are running the same race we have before despite the fact that history has shown us the right path twice.
Q4 2009
We have the HTC Hero and the Samsung Moment
Now the Hero is running on a 528mhz processor as old as the G1 itself while the sammy moment is running an 800mhz processor. The Hero has a TFT-LCD display with 65k colors, while the moment has an AMOLED display with 16 million colors.
Reading off this spec sheet, the moment is clearly the winner, BUT, real world testing proved otherwise, and the majority of people here would agree that the Hero was superior to the Moment. All hail HTC right? Maybe not.....
Q2/Q3 2010
The newly released HTC EVO, first 4G phone in the world is pitted against the Sammy Moment's younger and vengeful sibling.
The Evo is running on a 1ghz Snapdragon processor that is unfortunately "old" at this point being built off as 65nm process while the new Epic is touting a 1ghz Hummingbird SOC with a 45nm process. (For the record, i'm no expert but the 45nm > 65nm for battery drain and what not) Coupled with a new and improved SuperAMOLED display, the time has come for sammy to take the cake! Or has it? As real world testing progressed, the evo turned out to be the phone to beat, and the Epic had to be satisfied with filling the qwerty hardware keyboard niche.
But now, we face a new dilemma
Q2-Q? 2011
We have the HTC EVO 3D, a phone built by HTC. Despite past trends, HTC has built this phone with bleeding edge technology including a dual core 1.2ghz processor, 1gb of ram, a 950x540 SLCD display and the latest version of sense. But, the SSG2 (Within for Sprint) has come out with a newly designed SuperAMOLED+ display which uses the good old RBG color pattern along with the latest version of TouchWiz and a new processor built off a cortex A9 design. This battle between superphones has yet to be decided, but if we take a look at history, we see that HTC has tended to beat sammy with outdated hardware.
EDIT: The SSG2 does 1080p recording and the E3D only does 720p (big for some people, didn't want to omit that)
Past this point is bais towards HTC, and non-HTC affiliates/people who might feel inclined to troll should stop
So in conclusion, please don't read the SSG2 spec sheet and jizz all over it because it looks amazing. Trust history and go with the phone maker who has unanimously come out on top. While benchmarks are nice little scores to compare, they are just that, scores to compare. In terms of real world performance, both of the HTC phones provided a better overall experience for me.
Agreed iv loved the 3 HTC phones iv had
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jxr94 said:
For those not interested in a good read, here is the condensed version
According to the opinion of many fellow Android members,
Hero > Moment
Evo > Epic
E3D ? SSG2
I think: E3D > SSG2
Trust history, not reviews focused on one single "bonus" feature provided by a company.
For those who do want to kill time
Well folks, as most of you have witnessed, we the customers of Sprint have once again found ourselves in a predicament. On one hand, we have the brand new HTC Evo 3d and on the other we have the SSGS2/Photon/non-E3D phone. And as it stands, people have been negatively criticizing the E3D for a multitude of reasons, primarily its 3D effect. As long winded as this introduction is, there is a point to it. For the past couple years now we have faced a decision of whether or not to get an HTC device or a Sammy device. Now granted the GS2 isn't released or announced, but we know its coming. What I am trying to say is that we are running the same race we have before despite the fact that history has shown us the right path twice.
Q4 2009
We have the HTC Hero and the Samsung Moment
Now the Hero is running on a 528mhz processor as old as the G1 itself while the sammy moment is running an 800mhz processor. The Hero has a TFT-LCD display with 65k colors, while the moment has an AMOLED display with 16 million colors.
Reading off this spec sheet, the moment is clearly the winner, BUT, real world testing proved otherwise, and the majority of people here would agree that the Hero was superior to the Moment. All hail HTC right? Maybe not.....
Q2/Q3 2010
The newly released HTC EVO, first 4G phone in the world is pitted against the Sammy Moment's younger and vengeful sibling.
The Evo is running on a 1ghz Snapdragon processor that is unfortunately "old" at this point being built off as 65nm process while the new Epic is touting a 1ghz Hummingbird SOC with a 45nm process. (For the record, i'm no expert but the 45nm > 65nm for battery drain and what not) Coupled with a new and improved SuperAMOLED display, the time has come for sammy to take the cake! Or has it? As real world testing progressed, the evo turned out to be the phone to beat, and the Epic had to be satisfied with filling the qwerty hardware keyboard niche.
But now, we face a new dilemma
Q2-Q? 2011
We have the HTC EVO 3D, a phone built by HTC. Despite past trends, HTC has built this phone with bleeding edge technology including a dual core 1.2ghz processor, 1gb of ram, a 950x540 SLCD display and the latest version of sense. But, the SSG2 (Within for Sprint) has come out with a newly designed SuperAMOLED+ display which uses the good old RBG color pattern along with the latest version of TouchWiz and a new processor built off a cortex A9 design. This battle between superphones has yet to be decided, but if we take a look at history, we see that HTC has tended to beat sammy with outdated hardware.
Past this point is bais towards HTC, and non-HTC affiliates/people who might feel inclined to troll should stop
So in conclusion, please don't read the SSG2 spec sheet and jizz all over it because it looks amazing. Trust history and go with the phone maker who has unanimously come out on top. While benchmarks are nice little scores to compare, they are just that, scores to compare. In terms of real world performance, both of the HTC phones provided a better overall experience for me.
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ahh such a breath of fresh air from all the trolls. . . lol yes and i am trusting HTC history thats why I am picking mine up next week
Well thought out post. I think the Evo 3D will be the phone to beat this summer. I think the GS2's screen, camera, and battery life will be superior. However, I think the Evo 3D will performance-wise be on par, it will get faster official updates from HTC/Sprint (just look at how fast the Evo got official updates to Froyo and Gingerbread), and it will have better dev support.
I too have loved my HTC devices.
Someone had some time on their hands, good write up though.
The point i have been.making all year when.people want to talk about specs, you just put in a nice detailed post. Thanks.
Good to rehash the past. The Hero has been amazing for what little went into it and while I have never owned a Evo, it is still running with the best of them. Can't imagine that the Evo3d will be any different. Top notch specs and a hope of full root. Loving the thought of running CyanogenMod on this thing or a trimmed down Sense 3.0/
i think gingerbread has messed up sprints signal
something i should point out: this is the first year that HTC's main competitor by Sammy drops (or it seems) to drop the keyboard. So its two slate phones duking it out, and also the Galaxy S line built up a name for itself as well
Not trolling or anything, but this year it should be that much more interesting since things balance out better
The Galaxy S 2 is a much sexier phone, and probably even nicer when it comes down to the hardware but for those of us that love AOSP, its a deal breaker on the Sammy.
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something i should point out: this is the first year that HTC's main competitor by Sammy drops (or it seems) to drop the keyboard. So its two slate phones duking it out, and also the Galaxy S line built up a name for itself as well
Not trolling or anything, but this year it should be that much more interesting since things balance out better
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Good point! It would seem hardware keyboards are almost obselete at this point.
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The Galaxy S 2 is a much sexier phone, and probably even nicer when it comes down to the hardware but for those of us that love AOSP, its a deal breaker on the Sammy.
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not quite bro.
Sammy personally sent the CM7 development team a free GS2 for them to work their magic. If anyone gets Cyanogen, its the GS2 (as weird as it is to say it)
but HTC is a sure thing also when the bootloader is unlocked
Another reason I believe the Evo3D will be the phone to beat(and don't kill me here AOSP people): Sense 3.0. Sense, IMO, is the best and most complete UI available for Android...definitely something to keep in mind.
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Another reason I believe the Evo3D will be the phone to beat(and don't kill me here AOSP people): Sense 3.0. Sense, IMO, is the best and most complete UI available for Android...definitely something to keep in mind.
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^^^ this
i dunno why so many people want it gone...
IMHO we should work on making even better and faster while maintaining the beauty that is Sense!!! but thats just me
AOSP while fast as is, is bland
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Another reason I believe the Evo3D will be the phone to beat(and don't kill me here AOSP people): Sense 3.0. Sense, IMO, is the best and most complete UI available for Android...definitely something to keep in mind.
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we all know e3d will have a bootloader unlocked at some point, so will sammy.
wonder about having a bootloader unlocked is e3d owners can pick either to have a sense rom or aosp. With a sammy you have a choice with touchwiz or aosp. Aosp lovers can use either phone but people who prefer a skinned version of android the choice isn't as easy.
I admit I'm an HTC fanboy. I just will not buy a gs2 and half the reason is the fact that Samsung makes it and not HTC. With that said I wouldn't try to talk anyone out of getting one nor if someone asked me my opinion on it I wouldn't bash it. Truth is the phone is a beast. The differences people are arguing are really so small and people are acting like its the difference between a Hero and an Evo.
OMG my phone can open up this game 0.25 seconds faster than yours!!!!!
Seriously unless you did a side by side test does it matter which phone?
Hopefully dual booting will gget figured out soon. CM7 + Sense 3.0 would be awesome.
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I admit I'm an HTC fanboy. I just will not buy a gs2 and half the reason is the fact that Samsung makes it and not HTC. With that said I wouldn't try to talk anyone out of getting one nor if someone asked me my opinion on it I wouldn't bash it. Truth is the phone is a beast. The differences people are arguing are really so small and people are acting like its the difference between a Hero and an Evo.
OMG my phone can open up this game 0.25 seconds faster than yours!!!!!
Seriously unless you did a side by side test does it matter which phone?
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My words exactly
Thank you, OP! Great post! The Moment really sucked some serious ass
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Hopefully dual booting will gget figured out soon. CM7 + Sense 3.0 would be awesome.
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This my friend would be AWESOME!!!!
I have to say I was a little hesitant picking up my EVO-3D on Friday, with all the so so reviews, was worried it would not live up to the hype. And I LOVED my rooted EVO 4G with Myn's ROM.
When I first got the 3VO, I was like yeah it's cool, but nothing super special over my EVO 4G. Getting used to the taller and narrower size was weird, I liked the wider feel of the 4G. Fast forward a few days, and now i can say for sure, the 3VO is a much better phone, feels very high quality, and every part of it is just a better design over the 4G, way more refined, solid build quality, and Sense 3.0 rocks.
I have to say this is HTC's best product out right now ? The spec's alone are top notch, Sense 3.0 is king, battery life is much improved, screen resolution and colors are great. I can't think of any better HTC phone out, or due out until next year ?
Best htc product period.....tablet or phone....best specs best features best performance...but with all android phones, its supremacy will be short lived...damn you technology, you move too damn fast.
I mean there really isnt anything else they offer at this point other than the old Evo and the Epic so thats pretty much a given.
They'll have the Photon and Samsung 2....but regardless of how they sell this'll be they're flagship for 2011.
Now the Nexus4 looks to push Smartphone functionality into another generation so that might change if Sprint gets it.
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They'll have the Photon and Samsung 2....but regardless of how they sell this'll be they're flagship for 2011.
Now the Nexus4 looks to push Smartphone functionality into another generation so that might change if Sprint gets it.
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Nexus-4.0 sounds bad ass. But nobody really knows who will be the manufacturer ? Could be HTC...Samsung...LG...Motorola...
Besides the Nexus-4.0 I don't see any phone beating the EVO-3D until 2012, the Samsung Galaxy S3, or EVO-III.
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They'll have the Photon and Samsung 2....but regardless of how they sell this'll be they're flagship for 2011.
Now the Nexus4 looks to push Smartphone functionality into another generation so that might change if Sprint gets it.
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Well considering that the Photon is by Motorola and the GSII is by Samsung..
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Well considering that the Photon is by Motorola and the GSII is by Samsung..
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A rooted E3D will be unstoppable until the nexus 3 that is.
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I have to say I was a little hesitant picking up my EVO-3D on Friday, with all the so so reviews, was worried it would not live up to the hype. And I LOVED my rooted EVO 4G with Myn's ROM.
When I first got the 3VO, I was like yeah it's cool, but nothing super special over my EVO 4G. Getting used to the taller and narrower size was weird, I liked the wider feel of the 4G. Fast forward a few days, and now i can say for sure, the 3VO is a much better phone, feels very high quality, and every part of it is just a better design over the 4G, way more refined, solid build quality, and Sense 3.0 rocks.
I have to say this is HTC's best product out right now ? The spec's alone are top notch, Sense 3.0 is king, battery life is much improved, screen resolution and colors are great. I can't think of any better HTC phone out, or due out until next year ?
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Short answer....EVO 3D rocks period
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Well considering that the Photon is by Motorola and the GSII is by Samsung..
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I was beginnning to think that reading is a thing of the past. Thanks for pointing this out!
Im not worried, just like the OG evo, the 3VO will be on top till the next one replaces it since it has pretty futureproofing specs, a strong following / community and best support. There may be devices that will be faster or have more memory o better specs but it will fade into the background like the Epic did imo
s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
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Nexus-4.0 sounds bad ass. But nobody really knows who will be the manufacturer ? Could be HTC...Samsung...LG...Motorola...
Besides the Nexus-4.0 I don't see any phone beating the EVO-3D until 2012, the Samsung Galaxy S3, or EVO-III.
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If I'm not mistaken the next Nexus is a 3, not a 4.
If I'm not mistaken the LG G2x and SGS2 are a 'tad' faster. And all three are so fast we'll probably not notice a major difference. Definitely slight difference from techies. And it's a bit sad were using a Cortex A8 and not a A9. As stated neither are HTC.
They also don't have 3d and Sense 3.0. And for now Samsung hasn't had a major Dev Community, yes I do know SGS2 was sent to a CM dev. The 3vo has the Evo community + HTC community to boot. It's got a nice dual core and some other cool features. It'll be a great high-end phone. It's definitely Sprint Flagship phone. The Photon and SGS2Within may have somewhat of a shot, but I don't expect it too. And the Epic2 or Epic+ is dead in the water in comparison to the 3vo.
HTC Flagship will most likely be the 3VO. Except maybe the [Kingdom I think].
Hi guys. I'm going to buy a new phone because my Galaxy Ace don't satisfies me.
I'm a bit unsure about this 2 phones:
HTC EVO 3D or SAMSUNG GALAXY S2
I want buy htc because i very like sense, i like htc smartphones, it's quite similar with the s2, and have 3D (not very important but it can do video and photo in 3D ) and i don't have so much money to buy s2.
But if i want s2 i only need to wait more time. (damn money >.<)
The question is Performance
S2 is very much speedy than HTC EVO?
Write me a comparison between cpu and vga of this 2 phones please. Thanks!!!!
SGSII
EDIT: plenty of comparisons on the world wide web, for example - HERE
Or even do a search here on xda!!
Not trying to be an ass, but this question has in my opinion been explained substantially!
I don't have direct experience with those two phones, but my girlfriend has the s2 for att and I have the HTC rezound on verizon. I believe the processors are the same respectively for both, and I constantly compare our phones to see which is faster and tbh, there isn't much of a difference. Her s2 seems a little snappier at times but honestly, the difference isn't enough to make me jealous. If you like sense, I'd say go for the evo, if you want a larger super amoled screen, and feel like forking out more cash (I think the s2 is 200 where I work and the 3d is only 99) go for the samsung. Neither phone is a bad choice, and as far as performance, both will be amazingly quick compared to the phone you're coming from, and really not that far from each other in terms of performance.
Good luck choosing!
Thanks for all replys. I like this 2 phones and for me there isn't much differences. But i'm scared because i don't want EVO to will be lagger in game performance.
Ah, the qHD display of EVO looks better than the screen of the iphone right? I want a realy good resolution
Amoled is better than lcd but the resolution of evo is very noticeable compared to resolution of s2 right?
I think u should wait for a short time, for the news phone, HTC one V
Oh my god. Htc is copying iphone??? -.- My god... No microsd, need microsim and battery isn't removable. O my god. Why htc need to copy iphone... Looser...
Ah, this 3 model of htc cost too much for my money budget.
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In my opinion the best smart phone in SGSII
I never liked the HTC phone . Because they are very rough
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The question is Performance
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Huawei announced the "fastest phone" if that's what you're interested in. Rumor says it'll be stock ICS, and huawei is well-known for its low prices (though who knows if they'll continue that policy with their new high-ends). Seems to have pretty good resolution and size for gaming as well. You would, of course, have to wait till it comes out.
I don't want to wait anymore i'm bored >.<
I have decided i'll buy htc evo, because android don't need too much perfomance to play the mostest game right?
Ah, with ICS the perfomance of phones will improve??
I think huawei is a brand economic.
Please answer. This is my last question about ice scream.
im not sure that sg2 is best choice now. if i were u i would wait for sg3 (comming very soon) or buy s1. galaxy s is very good phone.
Hahhahaha, SG S is a good phone i know but updates are deads :|
And it will not get ICS... I trust HTC and i hope it will not delude me.
SGS2 is the best phone for now but HTC EVO 3D have same hardware and comes with a good software. And have 3D capacity. So i buy htc. Samsung have deluded me. Anyway the question is changed. ICS should not improve perfomance of all devices? So the EVO 3D with ICS should be very fast right?
Phones with ICS are going to be faster because of OS improvements as well as phone release time. There are benchmark results on youtube for the EVO 3D and any other device you're looking at. Based on the benchmarks, I'm sure you'll be very happy with the EVO 3D.
So now it turns out that the screen is broken on my Evo3D (bottom part of the touchscreen is irresponsible to touches) this is after the whole motherboard got replaced after I had the phone for a month, so my carrier will probably let me have a new phone, though I might have to cough up 50-100$ myself...
Not sure what I should get though, so I'd appreciate some input!
I could get an Evo3d for free, but my faith is HTC just isn't what it used to be. It's not just the poor quality of the Evo3D I'm talking about (the touchscreen issue seems to be fairly common) it's also the fact that HTC is making us Evo3D owners wait until at least summertime to get ICS update, which is just unacceptable for what was sold as a top of the line phone...
Moto RAZR
They'd give me the Droid RAZR for 50 bucks, and I'm pretty tempted, since it looks like a nice phone. A great SAMOLED+ QHD screen (Yes I know about the pentile), expandable up to 48gb, a pretty good camera, and super thin Kevlar surface all line up for a pretty sweet package. The only thing kinda holding me back, is that the SGX540 GPU in it is kinda old, battery life is supposed to be just average, and the camera, while good, isn't as good as in the Samsung GSII or iPhone 4S.
Galaxy Nexus
I miiight be able to get a Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy Note if I cough up 100-200$ but not sure if I should go for it. Yes, it has an awesome screen and ICS, but whatever Android phone I get will have ICS in the next 3 months or so. The downside is a kinda old CPU/GPU combo (OMAP4430 and SGX540), a 5 mp camera, average battery life and only 16gb storage.
iPhone
Depending on what I'm willing to spend, they'll let me have an iphone4 for free, or 4S if I put down some cash. Between 50 and 200$ all depending on the 16/32/64 gb model. Now I know the iPhone option is kinda controversial, and if you had asked me a year ago, I'd never get an iPhone. But lately, I've gotten kinda disillusioned with Android. Even on a high end model like the Evo3D or SGSII isn't as smooth as iOS, and lag, even if very slight, is almost always present if you go to a list, for example. Theres also the issue of hardware quality and service. The last six months I've spent a couple dozen hours either trying to get an Android phone fixed, fixing issues with it, or taking it to repairs hops and waiting days or weeks for it to be repaired. With Apple you don't have to deal with all of that. They DO give really, really great service. If you take a broken phone to the Apple store, they often just outright replace it, and that counts for something IMHO.
I've had an ipad2 for the past 5 months, and I've really gotten to appreciate how fast and smooth the experience is, and how everything just works. The other advantages would be iMessage/FaceTime, which is really cool, having my phone work great together with my iPad, and the whole Apple ecosystem. Cameras are also top of the line, from what I've seen, and battery life is really good.
I know of the downsides with getting an iPhone, the biggest one would be the 3.5 inch screen. No matter how awesome, bright and sharp it is, it will take some getting used to, to go from a 4.3 inch screen to a 3.5 inch screen.
Other phones, like a Samsung or HTC are also available for me to get, this is just my top3. I'd really appreciate your input, and let me know what phone you'd get next in my situation... Thanks!
Based on your phone listing's looks like you have the GSM version. I would go with either the GN or the Note if it is not to big for you.
The GSM GN has pretty good battery life from what I have seen. The CDMA is not as good which is that I own. Needs the extended battery on CDMA to get decent life. There are a lot of people with the GSM version who get an average of 5 hours on-screen time. To me that is some pretty good battery life.
The downside like you said is only 16gigs of storage on the GSM GN without an SD slot. I just do not get that at all! Why only 16 on a device that cannot be expanded! Luckily the CDMA version came with 32gigs.
I owned the CDMA EVO 3D back in the day, then went to the Epic 4G touch which blows the 3D away. The GN is more in a league with the SGS2 then the EVO 3D. The GN is super smooth.
I personally stay away from Moto's, especially if you like to flash things...
I have been really fortunate not to have any trouble with my evo 3d. I also had the og evo before the 3d.
My next phone will not be htc though. Im very disappointed about ics being pushed back.
Anyway, from your list of phones to choose from i would not hesitate on switching. To the galaxy nexus. Ive had a chance to play around with it a few times and really love it. Updates will always be faster to and of course it comes with the new chip for mobile purchasing. Really comes down to your personal preference and needs really. Your listed phones are all great products. I will never purchase an apple product, but i know a lot of people that love them. Good luck to you.
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I have been really fortunate not to have any trouble with my evo 3d. I also had the og evo before the 3d.
My next phone will not be htc though. Im very disappointed about ics being pushed back.
Anyway, from your list of phones to choose from i would not hesitate on switching. To the galaxy nexus. Ive had a chance to play around with it a few times and really love it. Updates will always be faster to and of course it comes with the new chip for mobile purchasing. Really comes down to your personal preference and needs really. Your listed phones are all great products. I will never purchase an apple product, but i know a lot of people that love them. Good luck to you.
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There's no way of telling about the updates. Google's last flagship device has been completely ignored and won't get ICS. Doesn't really matter to me as I have faith in the xda community to get any updates on to it.
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There's no way of telling about the updates. Google's last flagship device has been completely ignored and won't get ICS. Doesn't really matter to me as I have faith in the xda community to get any updates on to it.
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What is Google's last flagship device that is not getting ICS?
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What is Google's last flagship device that is not getting ICS?
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Nexus S. Some of the gsm nexus s models got ics and there was a leak of an ics updates for the 4g... After that no updates..... Yet...
Any high end HTC, that is if you like and value Dev support here on XDA
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Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S2 i9100. Those two phones are by far the best supported phones development wise on this site. It's only going to get bigger with the GS2 likely decreasing if the GS3 makes a big enough impact.
No HTC phone besides the Sensation compares development wise right now. A few legacy devices here and there, but for the specs, the two phones I mentioned above cannot be beat right now.
I'm in the same boat, well I'm selling mine, I'm so disappointed in HTC, too many freezing up and restarting by itself on stock rom, moving on
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Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S2 i9100. Those two phones are by far the best supported phones development wise on this site. It's only going to get bigger with the GS2 likely decreasing if the GS3 makes a big enough impact.
No HTC phone besides the Sensation compares development wise right now. A few legacy devices here and there, but for the specs, the two phones I mentioned above cannot be beat right now.
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Thanks! The one thing I REALLY liked about the Evo was the QHD screen. So I really don't want to go back to an 800*480 screen. The Moto Razr and Galaxy Nexus have pretty much the same CPU/GPU right? OMAP 4430/60
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Thanks! The one thing I REALLY liked about the Evo was the QHD screen. So I really don't want to go back to an 800*480 screen. The Moto Razr and Galaxy Nexus have pretty much the same CPU/GPU right? OMAP 4430/60
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They more or less are the same CPU. I would head over to the Galaxy Nexus forums and learn more about their processor and how it actually is a pretty remarkable in performance. Google picked out nice specs for their flagship.
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So now it turns out that the screen is broken on my Evo3D (bottom part of the touchscreen is irresponsible to touches) this is after the whole motherboard got replaced after I had the phone for a month, so my carrier will probably let me have a new phone, though I might have to cough up 50-100$ myself...
Not sure what I should get though, so I'd appreciate some input!
I could get an Evo3d for free, but my faith is HTC just isn't what it used to be. It's not just the poor quality of the Evo3D I'm talking about (the touchscreen issue seems to be fairly common) it's also the fact that HTC is making us Evo3D owners wait until at least summertime to get ICS update, which is just unacceptable for what was sold as a top of the line phone...
Moto RAZR
They'd give me the Droid RAZR for 50 bucks, and I'm pretty tempted, since it looks like a nice phone. A great SAMOLED+ QHD screen (Yes I know about the pentile), expandable up to 48gb, a pretty good camera, and super thin Kevlar surface all line up for a pretty sweet package. The only thing kinda holding me back, is that the SGX540 GPU in it is kinda old, battery life is supposed to be just average, and the camera, while good, isn't as good as in the Samsung GSII or iPhone 4S.
Galaxy Nexus
I miiight be able to get a Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy Note if I cough up 100-200$ but not sure if I should go for it. Yes, it has an awesome screen and ICS, but whatever Android phone I get will have ICS in the next 3 months or so. The downside is a kinda old CPU/GPU combo (OMAP4430 and SGX540), a 5 mp camera, average battery life and only 16gb storage.
iPhone
Depending on what I'm willing to spend, they'll let me have an iphone4 for free, or 4S if I put down some cash. Between 50 and 200$ all depending on the 16/32/64 gb model. Now I know the iPhone option is kinda controversial, and if you had asked me a year ago, I'd never get an iPhone. But lately, I've gotten kinda disillusioned with Android. Even on a high end model like the Evo3D or SGSII isn't as smooth as iOS, and lag, even if very slight, is almost always present if you go to a list, for example. Theres also the issue of hardware quality and service. The last six months I've spent a couple dozen hours either trying to get an Android phone fixed, fixing issues with it, or taking it to repairs hops and waiting days or weeks for it to be repaired. With Apple you don't have to deal with all of that. They DO give really, really great service. If you take a broken phone to the Apple store, they often just outright replace it, and that counts for something IMHO.
I've had an ipad2 for the past 5 months, and I've really gotten to appreciate how fast and smooth the experience is, and how everything just works. The other advantages would be iMessage/FaceTime, which is really cool, having my phone work great together with my iPad, and the whole Apple ecosystem. Cameras are also top of the line, from what I've seen, and battery life is really good.
I know of the downsides with getting an iPhone, the biggest one would be the 3.5 inch screen. No matter how awesome, bright and sharp it is, it will take some getting used to, to go from a 4.3 inch screen to a 3.5 inch screen.
Other phones, like a Samsung or HTC are also available for me to get, this is just my top3. I'd really appreciate your input, and let me know what phone you'd get next in my situation... Thanks!
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SGSII or EVO 3D is top choices out there iPhone is all brand and behind the curve otherwise I would take a photon or over iPhone LOL
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I'm in the same boat, well I'm selling mine, I'm so disappointed in HTC, too many freezing up and restarting by itself on stock rom, moving on
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Same here man.iam returning to sony.gonna get Xperia S soon
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I honestly wouldnt consider the 3vo to be one of the high(est) end devices now.
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I honestly wouldnt consider the 3vo to be one of the high(est) end devices now.
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It's no slouch at all. It's just older which puts you under the illusion that it is weak. Compared to other dual core devices, there aren't huge differences.
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Sold mine on Ebay. Bought a Epic4G touch. Not looking back. The only thing I appreciated about the Evo4G was the development community. Other than that, I'm getting twice the battery on a larger screen.
That would be my vote. And I paid full price for the Epic. Worth it.
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Another one leaves again.
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Lol I saw you post in a thread the other day that your next phone will either be an iPhone or a windows phone haha
Evo3D.
evo 3d seems very cheap now for a (once high end) mid range phone.
I've had nothing but good luck with my Evo 3d and love it, only thing i dont like is the flimsy backing plate. From reading your post i cant help but ask were you rooted? There are tons of great roms and app mods available in the forums here, all solve numerous issues and improve upon stock in any number of ways.
As far as choosing a phone goes, if you can get a new 3d free I'd stick it out and wait to see what's available withing the coming months, MWC just finished up and there were tons of greats devices announced.
Otherwise GSII gets my vote.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...-wireless-and-us-cellular-services-starting-m
Is it wrong that I feel slightly compelled to return my EvoLTE (got a few days left in my 14) and get the SGS3? With a global launch of nearly identical phones (save for CDMA, frequencies, etc, S4 in the US), it is gonna be a hit phone. I really have very few issues with the EvoLTE besides the goofy multitasking button (for which I installed the mod).
I know the screen is technically inferior, but most who have used SGS3 seem to agree our eyes can't tell.
2GB RAM is REALLY compelling, and I think its going to have a kicking dev community, and no locked bootloader.
Please don't write me off as a troll. I'm not a hater, I like the EvoLTE. I'm just going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years, and feel under pressure to make the right choice.
ill keep my htc. i prefer sense over crappy touchwiz or whatever its called
but if you want it so bad you should get it ^_^
I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
There are great devs here too. For me I'm keeping the Evo.
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Crap radios,weird looking (my opinion),poor build quality,touchwiz,GPS issues ,screenes not as good.I never have a problem with a gig of ram. I just think it isn't necessary... yet anyway.it's gonna be a beast for sure, just don't like Samsung...definitely a matter of opinion .I don't think there will be that much of a difference in performance.
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Horrible radios! i was getting half the speeds of what i do now, voice and data. Never going back to Samsuck
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Why is the SGSIII screen worse than the EVO 4g LTE?
As others have said radios are not good however I guess this will be the true test as far as radios seeing how they are using Qualcomm chip with radio built in... And then we will know if its just their crappy programming or something. Lol also the screen is up to you I have a gn basically same screen as sgsiii and its ok however the sgsiii is slightly better I guess cause of spacing?
Touchwiz isn't good imo and its the same look as it has been HTC at least reinvented the wheel this time around to.make it better in some ways. The extra 100 in batt will help some probably due to the screen. However I have seen many people say and or show up over on the LTE side from the og and other places.
2gigs of ram gimmick IMO I know some people say they have reloading issues when they hit home I haveny had that or anything... Not to mention the iPhone beat the sgsiii in a drop test I want to see EVO LTE in a drop test with it lol. So its all up to you keep man. And what you like better and if you want to bite down on a 35$ restock fee or 70$ restock fee if you.get the gsiii and decide you want EVO back lol.
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I'll be sticking with my LTEvo based on looks alone. The SG3 may beat out the LTE by a hair, but not by much if any. Ive been told the US version SG3 will have the same dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor as the LTE and the only thing it has on the LTE is the 2GB ram. Its a nice phone no doubt but the build quality on the LTE is simply amazing. Im happy with my LTE but im sure the SG3 will just as nice! Its great to have two awesome phones to choose from!
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I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
After owning an EVO Shift then a Nexus S 4G I am sticking with the EVO. The feel of the phone is better and I believe HTC uses better internal parts. I never had reboots at all on my EVO Shift. I had reboots and screen of death frequently on my Nexus.
I also will never own another phone with a pentile screen, no matter what people say I can't see.
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
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this.
I had the Epic 4G Touch since launch and even though I had no problems with the development, it was SLOW to start. it got root fast (that's to zedomax) but everything else came slowly, AOSP came 3-4 months or so after release, everything else was pretty much dominated by one or two devs/teams. Why? Because CDMA came later and is less popular than GSM, and which is global - the International version is GSM and the conversion of roms from GSM to CDMA is more difficult and time consuming than you would think. Rest assured there will be some devs as there always is with galaxy phones but you can't compare it to the amount there are with the International/GSM galaxy phones.
This phone, and however, blew me away with what we have thus far. Why? Because there isn't a "GSM" version to suck most of the great devs away from our development. it's got the best starting development out of all the Sprint devices I've seen(next to the OG EVO, and of course)
Several of the gimmicky features of the S3 are apks that have been leaked already (posted s voice and floating video player in themes&apps section). that said, I there isn't really anything that makes the S3 unique except the 2 gb ram and the HD pentile screen (debatable)
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much.
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
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Actually, Epic Touch had very good developer support.
The samoled hd screen is indeed inferior.
Samsung phones definitely have better build quality, but they are made of plastic, so it's a wash.
Epic Touch had good support from Samsung.
Touchwiz is actually a much better skin than Sense. Especially sense 4, which is a bloatware and a resource hog. One thing you can expect from GS3 for Sprint is that it's going to have stellar software, where everything is hardware accelerated to the max and buttery smooth and fast.
I'm probably gonna keep the evo cause I hate the look of the gs3, but I'm also hoping that we can steal some of their software.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
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I doubt people are going to move from the ET4G, which is less than a year old, to the GS3. I am sure some of themore hard core crowd will but most people are under a contract or are quite happy with their phone. The reason a lot of people are moving to the new EVO is because they were on contract with the OG EVO or are using their last yearly upgrade from the 3D.
The Dev's alone will keep me from keeping my EVO. They made me like my 3D even when I had buyers remorse over the S2. They almost made me not have to buy this phone, thanks to the ONE s Rom. I'm also liking what I'm seeing so far, even though the phone has only been out for a week.
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Screen : research pentile , you'll see people viewing it under a microscope with some criticisms. Shrug.
Development community.. With sprints phone being more or less identical to verizons, I think it'll be at least as good. But for me, I just want a stable cm9, which really only takes a couple good devs. And both phones will have that, so I'll concede a wash.
Gps and radios, good points. Certainly one of the reasons I chose htc after my og epic. But maybe just maybe they got it figured out?
When picking a phone for 2 years, specs are key for me. Think about your computer: twice the ram is significant. Particularly considering the multitasking issues I too have experienced on this phone. Almost no apps truly save their state when you go away from them for a few min. And we'll be hoping both android 5 and 6 go on these generation phones (via Cyanogen probably) so more ram may be significant at that time.
Didn't have any issues with my epic build quality, came to appreciate the plastic even.
Also- isn't the gpu better, or will it be the same as evo in the us models?
Argh
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Yes, that epic touch was built like a tank.
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One more thing. Will Samsung ever make a phone that has a working GPS? I'm still waiting for my girlfriend's GS2 find a "GPS signal"
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