For those not interested in a good read, here is the condensed version
According to the opinion of many fellow Android members,
Hero > Moment
Evo > Epic
E3D ? SSG2
I think: E3D > SSG2
Trust history, not reviews focused on one single "bonus" feature provided by a company.
For those who do want to kill time
Well folks, as most of you have witnessed, we the customers of Sprint have once again found ourselves in a predicament. On one hand, we have the brand new HTC Evo 3d and on the other we have the SSGS2/Photon/non-E3D phone. And as it stands, people have been negatively criticizing the E3D for a multitude of reasons, primarily its 3D effect. As long winded as this introduction is, there is a point to it. For the past couple years now we have faced a decision of whether or not to get an HTC device or a Sammy device. Now granted the GS2 isn't released or announced, but we know its coming. What I am trying to say is that we are running the same race we have before despite the fact that history has shown us the right path twice.
Q4 2009
We have the HTC Hero and the Samsung Moment
Now the Hero is running on a 528mhz processor as old as the G1 itself while the sammy moment is running an 800mhz processor. The Hero has a TFT-LCD display with 65k colors, while the moment has an AMOLED display with 16 million colors.
Reading off this spec sheet, the moment is clearly the winner, BUT, real world testing proved otherwise, and the majority of people here would agree that the Hero was superior to the Moment. All hail HTC right? Maybe not.....
Q2/Q3 2010
The newly released HTC EVO, first 4G phone in the world is pitted against the Sammy Moment's younger and vengeful sibling.
The Evo is running on a 1ghz Snapdragon processor that is unfortunately "old" at this point being built off as 65nm process while the new Epic is touting a 1ghz Hummingbird SOC with a 45nm process. (For the record, i'm no expert but the 45nm > 65nm for battery drain and what not) Coupled with a new and improved SuperAMOLED display, the time has come for sammy to take the cake! Or has it? As real world testing progressed, the evo turned out to be the phone to beat, and the Epic had to be satisfied with filling the qwerty hardware keyboard niche.
But now, we face a new dilemma
Q2-Q? 2011
We have the HTC EVO 3D, a phone built by HTC. Despite past trends, HTC has built this phone with bleeding edge technology including a dual core 1.2ghz processor, 1gb of ram, a 950x540 SLCD display and the latest version of sense. But, the SSG2 (Within for Sprint) has come out with a newly designed SuperAMOLED+ display which uses the good old RBG color pattern along with the latest version of TouchWiz and a new processor built off a cortex A9 design. This battle between superphones has yet to be decided, but if we take a look at history, we see that HTC has tended to beat sammy with outdated hardware.
EDIT: The SSG2 does 1080p recording and the E3D only does 720p (big for some people, didn't want to omit that)
Past this point is bais towards HTC, and non-HTC affiliates/people who might feel inclined to troll should stop
So in conclusion, please don't read the SSG2 spec sheet and jizz all over it because it looks amazing. Trust history and go with the phone maker who has unanimously come out on top. While benchmarks are nice little scores to compare, they are just that, scores to compare. In terms of real world performance, both of the HTC phones provided a better overall experience for me.
Agreed iv loved the 3 HTC phones iv had
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jxr94 said:
For those not interested in a good read, here is the condensed version
According to the opinion of many fellow Android members,
Hero > Moment
Evo > Epic
E3D ? SSG2
I think: E3D > SSG2
Trust history, not reviews focused on one single "bonus" feature provided by a company.
For those who do want to kill time
Well folks, as most of you have witnessed, we the customers of Sprint have once again found ourselves in a predicament. On one hand, we have the brand new HTC Evo 3d and on the other we have the SSGS2/Photon/non-E3D phone. And as it stands, people have been negatively criticizing the E3D for a multitude of reasons, primarily its 3D effect. As long winded as this introduction is, there is a point to it. For the past couple years now we have faced a decision of whether or not to get an HTC device or a Sammy device. Now granted the GS2 isn't released or announced, but we know its coming. What I am trying to say is that we are running the same race we have before despite the fact that history has shown us the right path twice.
Q4 2009
We have the HTC Hero and the Samsung Moment
Now the Hero is running on a 528mhz processor as old as the G1 itself while the sammy moment is running an 800mhz processor. The Hero has a TFT-LCD display with 65k colors, while the moment has an AMOLED display with 16 million colors.
Reading off this spec sheet, the moment is clearly the winner, BUT, real world testing proved otherwise, and the majority of people here would agree that the Hero was superior to the Moment. All hail HTC right? Maybe not.....
Q2/Q3 2010
The newly released HTC EVO, first 4G phone in the world is pitted against the Sammy Moment's younger and vengeful sibling.
The Evo is running on a 1ghz Snapdragon processor that is unfortunately "old" at this point being built off as 65nm process while the new Epic is touting a 1ghz Hummingbird SOC with a 45nm process. (For the record, i'm no expert but the 45nm > 65nm for battery drain and what not) Coupled with a new and improved SuperAMOLED display, the time has come for sammy to take the cake! Or has it? As real world testing progressed, the evo turned out to be the phone to beat, and the Epic had to be satisfied with filling the qwerty hardware keyboard niche.
But now, we face a new dilemma
Q2-Q? 2011
We have the HTC EVO 3D, a phone built by HTC. Despite past trends, HTC has built this phone with bleeding edge technology including a dual core 1.2ghz processor, 1gb of ram, a 950x540 SLCD display and the latest version of sense. But, the SSG2 (Within for Sprint) has come out with a newly designed SuperAMOLED+ display which uses the good old RBG color pattern along with the latest version of TouchWiz and a new processor built off a cortex A9 design. This battle between superphones has yet to be decided, but if we take a look at history, we see that HTC has tended to beat sammy with outdated hardware.
Past this point is bais towards HTC, and non-HTC affiliates/people who might feel inclined to troll should stop
So in conclusion, please don't read the SSG2 spec sheet and jizz all over it because it looks amazing. Trust history and go with the phone maker who has unanimously come out on top. While benchmarks are nice little scores to compare, they are just that, scores to compare. In terms of real world performance, both of the HTC phones provided a better overall experience for me.
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ahh such a breath of fresh air from all the trolls. . . lol yes and i am trusting HTC history thats why I am picking mine up next week
Well thought out post. I think the Evo 3D will be the phone to beat this summer. I think the GS2's screen, camera, and battery life will be superior. However, I think the Evo 3D will performance-wise be on par, it will get faster official updates from HTC/Sprint (just look at how fast the Evo got official updates to Froyo and Gingerbread), and it will have better dev support.
I too have loved my HTC devices.
Someone had some time on their hands, good write up though.
The point i have been.making all year when.people want to talk about specs, you just put in a nice detailed post. Thanks.
Good to rehash the past. The Hero has been amazing for what little went into it and while I have never owned a Evo, it is still running with the best of them. Can't imagine that the Evo3d will be any different. Top notch specs and a hope of full root. Loving the thought of running CyanogenMod on this thing or a trimmed down Sense 3.0/
i think gingerbread has messed up sprints signal
something i should point out: this is the first year that HTC's main competitor by Sammy drops (or it seems) to drop the keyboard. So its two slate phones duking it out, and also the Galaxy S line built up a name for itself as well
Not trolling or anything, but this year it should be that much more interesting since things balance out better
The Galaxy S 2 is a much sexier phone, and probably even nicer when it comes down to the hardware but for those of us that love AOSP, its a deal breaker on the Sammy.
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something i should point out: this is the first year that HTC's main competitor by Sammy drops (or it seems) to drop the keyboard. So its two slate phones duking it out, and also the Galaxy S line built up a name for itself as well
Not trolling or anything, but this year it should be that much more interesting since things balance out better
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Good point! It would seem hardware keyboards are almost obselete at this point.
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The Galaxy S 2 is a much sexier phone, and probably even nicer when it comes down to the hardware but for those of us that love AOSP, its a deal breaker on the Sammy.
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not quite bro.
Sammy personally sent the CM7 development team a free GS2 for them to work their magic. If anyone gets Cyanogen, its the GS2 (as weird as it is to say it)
but HTC is a sure thing also when the bootloader is unlocked
Another reason I believe the Evo3D will be the phone to beat(and don't kill me here AOSP people): Sense 3.0. Sense, IMO, is the best and most complete UI available for Android...definitely something to keep in mind.
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Another reason I believe the Evo3D will be the phone to beat(and don't kill me here AOSP people): Sense 3.0. Sense, IMO, is the best and most complete UI available for Android...definitely something to keep in mind.
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^^^ this
i dunno why so many people want it gone...
IMHO we should work on making even better and faster while maintaining the beauty that is Sense!!! but thats just me
AOSP while fast as is, is bland
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Another reason I believe the Evo3D will be the phone to beat(and don't kill me here AOSP people): Sense 3.0. Sense, IMO, is the best and most complete UI available for Android...definitely something to keep in mind.
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we all know e3d will have a bootloader unlocked at some point, so will sammy.
wonder about having a bootloader unlocked is e3d owners can pick either to have a sense rom or aosp. With a sammy you have a choice with touchwiz or aosp. Aosp lovers can use either phone but people who prefer a skinned version of android the choice isn't as easy.
I admit I'm an HTC fanboy. I just will not buy a gs2 and half the reason is the fact that Samsung makes it and not HTC. With that said I wouldn't try to talk anyone out of getting one nor if someone asked me my opinion on it I wouldn't bash it. Truth is the phone is a beast. The differences people are arguing are really so small and people are acting like its the difference between a Hero and an Evo.
OMG my phone can open up this game 0.25 seconds faster than yours!!!!!
Seriously unless you did a side by side test does it matter which phone?
Hopefully dual booting will gget figured out soon. CM7 + Sense 3.0 would be awesome.
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I admit I'm an HTC fanboy. I just will not buy a gs2 and half the reason is the fact that Samsung makes it and not HTC. With that said I wouldn't try to talk anyone out of getting one nor if someone asked me my opinion on it I wouldn't bash it. Truth is the phone is a beast. The differences people are arguing are really so small and people are acting like its the difference between a Hero and an Evo.
OMG my phone can open up this game 0.25 seconds faster than yours!!!!!
Seriously unless you did a side by side test does it matter which phone?
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My words exactly
Thank you, OP! Great post! The Moment really sucked some serious ass
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Hopefully dual booting will gget figured out soon. CM7 + Sense 3.0 would be awesome.
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This my friend would be AWESOME!!!!
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This is in the general section, so I think I'm safe posting this, heh.
I'm going to start by saying this: I love my E3D. I left TMo before getting the Sensation to come back to Sprint for the Evo 3D. Locked bootloader or no, broken promises or no, this is the BADDEST device I've ever had my hands on!
That being said, yes, I'm more than a tad honked off @ HTC for tossing us BS/No answers for the bootloader unlocking issue, and have sent my emails to them in kind. I've been watching the Facebook/Twitter/Official Web sites since these shenanigans started, and what I see shocks me... People literally THREATENING HTC with things ranging from something as severe as hacking the company, to as minor as just returning their phones.
The worst I see though, are the threats to go with the Galaxy S2.
How quickly some forget the crap that Samsung was party to in regards to the Moment, the Epic/Vibrant/Captivate/Fascinate, and the Intercept. Did we all just blank out that time in our collective consciousness, the crap that was packaged as a Samsung device? How terrible they performed? How they kept promising phantom updates that would not show up at all or materialize, brick phones, then be pulled off the market? How they liked to fall apart and not work? The only Samsung device worth its salt, that I can see, is the Nexus S - and that's mostly because it was pure Google software.
Sure, the GS2 may have killer specs that make our Evo 3D's look like yesterday's garbage, but I've not once had ANY issue with my HTC devices from WM6 to Android - but I've had nothing but a terrible history with Sammy, and I know I'm not the only one.
So... IJS. My 2 cents on the whole issue - I hope it was coherent enough to make Sense (lolz)... pain killers for the back are a b****.
Edit: I just read the post with the HTC response that they WILL unlock the bootloader, so that's at least a step in the right direction..
/rant
I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
I'm hoping every thread on the 1st page of the Evo 3d general forums is filled with complaining about bootloader's. Seems to be the trend.
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Sure, the GS2 may have killer specs that make our Evo 3D's look like yesterday's garbage
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
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I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
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That did crack me up.
The complaining got them to step up and commit to unlock in the first place. That HTC page is going to be a warzone until they start systematically issuing the OTAs that will unlock these devices we paid for.
...and so far as the threats of buying Samsung, while I agree with you (except that the NexusS is somehow any better...same weak radios, my main concern), consumers should 'vote with their wallet' more often. Then companies might be a little more cautious about trying bull**** like this. Even if they provide a technically better product if it is not provided on terms you agree with (locked) or worse yet the company lies to you about future functionality...well...vote with your wallet. That's a language they'll understand.
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
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I completely agree with you, and I stay away from everything Sammy usually, so I didn't fully realize how close the devices are hardware-wise.
I'm digging my 3d capability, and I think I've almost got it dialed-in.
All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Ive had SGS2 for two weeks. 3D actually is faster to me. Consistantly.
But camera? Nope. Not really close unfortunately.
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All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Really? Well I'm no camera expert. In the lab, which is all flourescent lighting....EVO 3d did spectacular.
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I will be handing down my Swagged out EVO to my wife and I will be upraging. Which is the better option right now the EVO 3D or the Galaxy S2? Or does someone have another option?
I am considering also an evo 3d. I have sgs2 and i like it. it could be nice to hear from someone who has tried both phone.
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I will be handing down my Swagged out EVO to my wife and I will be upraging. Which is the better option right now the EVO 3D or the Galaxy S2? Or does someone have another option?
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Well, your most likely gonna get a biased answer in this forum, BUT, I, being a huge HTC fan, but also an honest, unbiased person, would go with (as i already have) the GS II, I used to love HTC sense, and i used to hate touchwiz, but then i tried twiz 4.0, and its much lighter, and in my opinion, nicer then sense. Not to mention the combination of the exynos processor and the mali 400 gpu is better then ANYTHING HTC has to offer at this time. All they have is qualcomm SoC, and Adreno gpu's, which dont get me wrong are great, but they just cant compete with the current hardware in samsungs S II devices, as a matter of fact, IMHO, i dont think ANYTHING can compete. I turned down a nexus and decided to wait for ICS for my gs II, and I will not be upgrading until the gs III or a quad core sammy come around. Go with the GS II, from one previous HTC lover, to a current HTC lover, you will not be disappointed, Not to mention the Dev support for this device is greater then any other device Ive EVER seen. You'll be more than happy with a GS II. Please, update me on what you decide to do.
Edit: My bro has the Evo 3D. IIMHO the GS II is better in EVERY department. IF I was going to go with HTC cause samsungs went extinct, it would be either a sensation (dev support) or an Amaze/Ruby (best hardware equipped HTC ATM.)
First thing, why on earth do you feel the need to use so many question marks. It is a question, we get that or did you face palm the keys while typing?
My advise to you would be to go in the shop and test both out, see which feels the best in your hand. They both have good features on them so the choice has to be made by only you.
For myself, I have a SGS2 and couldn't think of myself with any other phone atm. On a side not I have never been a massive fan of things with 3d. I think it is unneeded for a mobile phone.
I played with a 3D in store and it's pretty cool, although I'm not sure how long it'll last past the first couple of days.
I owned the Evo3D when it came out in the US. The real problem for me with the device was the carrier (Sprint). Their service is beyond crap so I ended up returning the device more because I couldn't get reception. The device itself is very nice. IMO the Evo3D is probably the best HTC device out there with its 1gb of Ram and 1.2ghz dual core S3. I thought the 3D aspects were pretty interesting. I was expecting it to be more of a gimmick but it's the real deal.
Overall though, my opinion of Android devices over the last 6 months has not changed (and that includes the Gnex). There's the SGS2 and then there are a bunch of other phones. The GS2 sits perched atop the Android totem pole and no other device I've used has knocked it off.
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I owned the Evo3D when it came out in the US. The real problem for me with the device was the carrier (Sprint). Their service is beyond crap so I ended up returning the device more because I couldn't get reception. The device itself is very nice. IMO the Evo3D is probably the best HTC device out there with its 1gb of Ram and 1.2ghz dual core S3. I thought the 3D aspects were pretty interesting. I was expecting it to be more of a gimmick but it's the real deal.
Overall though, my opinion of Android devices over the last 6 months has not changed (and that includes the Gnex). There's the SGS2 and then there are a bunch of other phones. The GS2 sits perched atop the Android totem pole and no other device I've used has knocked it off.
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+1 your opinion on the GS2.... But how could you say the evo 3d is the nicest HTC right now? The amaze has a 1.5hghz dual-core S3, 1 gig of ram, and HSPA+ rated @42mbps, and the rezound/vigor is the same hardware specs as the amaze but with a HD 720 display. The Evo 3d WAS the nicest HTC maybe back in july, but then the sensation was there as well, so i cant even say that with backbone. There is a new gen of HTC devices out now, the Evo 3D is a tier 2 device for them now.
Samsung Galaxy S 2 Best android phone ever!!!
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Samsung Galaxy S 2 Best android phone ever!!!
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Absolutely agree. and as I said before, Im an ANDROID fan, not a specific maufacturer, look at my list, I've had em all, from LG to Moto, and HTC to Sammy, if its android, ill give it a shot. (not including huawei or pantech) lmao
So, after MUCH agonizing (like I'm sure a lot of you have done/are doing), I've decided to go with the Evo 4G LTE over the Galaxy Nexus. Physically, I think the simplicity of the GN design is way sexy (particularly like the slight curve of the phone, helps fit to your face while talking), but the unibody metal of the Evo and the kickstand are way awesome (although I'm not particularly fond of the shiny plastic top third of the back).
In terms of the vanilla ICS vs. Sense 4, what finally helped me make the decision was running CM9 for a little while, then running Virus' Sense 4.0 ROM. I certainly do love AOSP ICS, its quite speedy and responsive, and most of the features & widgets from Sense have some counterpart in the market available. However, coming from the OG Evo, and now the 3D, I've always found myself going back to Sense in the end, no matter how many ROMs I've tried. Plus, this version really is quite light over ICS, and much of the AOSP feel comes through beautifully.
The main downside I'm concerned about is the potential delay with OS updates (even though JB, as I understand it, will be 4.1 and primarily introduce the first iteration of Google Assistant). I was concerned about the locked HTC bootloader vs. the developer friendly GN, but considering the phone hasn't even been officially released to the wild and there's already root access and custom ROMs (although no S-OFF yet), I have faith in the dev community flourishing.
Dunno if this'll give any insight whatsoever into anybody else, but I'm happy to have finally made a choice!
I think whatever phone you prefer in its stock form is the one to go with. I love the gnex and it's quick updates along with easily unlockable appease but hardwire it is behind the EVO LTE. That said I wouldn't buy the EVO LTE because I truly dislike sense. I wouldn't buy either phone myself. But that's just it, that's android, we as consumers can choose to buy the newest phone or just wait for the one that meets our needs! I'd love to HAVE the EVO LTE or gnex right now, however using my upgrade one either one isn't something I'm comfortable with.
So tldr I'm happy for any fellow android user regardless of the phone they have just as they should be with the next man.
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No LTE on Sprint. I think One X is the phone to get.
Truth in that. While I have a MacBook (for music/design) and iPad (for music/general net access & reading), I dont think I could ever get down with an iPhone. Android's greatest strength is its variety and flexibility in being a unique, personalized phone for the end user. Within the capabilities of the hardware we choose, we can make our devices do almost anything. I absolutely AGONIZED over what to get, and was on the verge of holding out and getting nothing, but I want to go ahead and push forward with the Evo LTE. Also helps that I have two other lines on my account that are due for upgrades next June, so I'll have an opportunity to move to whatever new hotness is around then
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No LTE on Sprint. I think One X is the phone to get.
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The Evo LTE is an improved version of the One X though...
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The Evo LTE is an improved version of the One X though...
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QTF!
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I've been struggling with this as well since I found out yesterday that as of today I'm eligible to sign another two year contract. I thought I would have to wait until october but apparently not lol.
I absolutely love the design of the galaxy nexus and stock android kicks ass. I put a fairly stockish rom on my friends nexus and already its faster than my evo. I love the screen too. But its based on last years technology. The evo lte is a great phone and all but the design isn't uniform enough for me. It's like they had a bunch of different ideas and just threw them all together. While its very fast, I don't feel like its worth locking myself in for another two years for it. It's only an incremental upgrade over the 3d imo.
I want to wait for the quad core Qualcomm s4 with the adreno 320 gpu, and I wouldnt mind a 720p super amoled plus display. I would prefer a nexus device as I love stock android. Less bloat, uniform ui design, faster. And if the next one looks anything like the galaxy nexus I'll jump all over it. But who knows when those next gen of phones will come out, and if they will come to sprint in a reasonable amount of time.I hate waiting when I can upgrade now lol
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I think you've made the right choice. Don't concern yourself too much about update IMO. Lots of devs here that I'm sure will have that phone and as far as HTC updating to JB, to me as long as ICS runs great then why bother with JB. By the time JB matures I'm sure there will be other devices out. But I really dont see anything wrong with ICS. So better screen, better camera, newer device, and sense (which you prefer).
For me I'm kinda waiting for GS3 then I'll decide between that and Evo LTE.
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it's different not improved.
more SD space on Evo is necessary because of the ****ty upload speeds. on One X with ATT's upload speed I can use my Box (50 GB) or Dropbox (25 GB) accounts to uplad my data and have it saved and shared.
the metal will loose it's color due to chipping, just like on evo 3D. this won't be a problem on One X.
2 things i would miss is the shutter button and kickstand. kickstand can be gained by getting cases that already include them. Shutter button, oh well.....
At least i can enjoy a phone that has reception and quick data speeds.
How long will your data cap hold out doing all the uploading and downloading? Even if you're grandfathered into an unlimited plan they still throttle after so many gb's. Should stick a straight Talk sim in there and get real unlimited for half the price on the same network.
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It's only an incremental upgrade over the 3d imo.
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I can only say that by your logic any new phone from an existing manufacturer is considered incremental then?
Bigger size, more powerful chips, LTE enabled, higher resolution SLCD HD screen, newest Android OS sounds like a lot more than "incremental".
Or is the Galaxy S3 also just an "incremental" upgrade from the E4GT?
Wouldn't the "next Nexus" you're waiting for just be an incremental upgrade from the current one? All that'll likely change there is the chipset unless JB is released by then.....it'll be similar sized, same resolution, etc....
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I can only say that by your logic any new phone from an existing manufacturer is considered incremental then?
Bigger size, more powerful chips, LTE enabled, higher resolution SLCD HD screen, newest Android OS sounds like a lot more than "incremental".
Or is the Galaxy S3 also just an "incremental" upgrade from the E4GT?
Wouldn't the "next Nexus" you're waiting for just be an incremental upgrade from the current one? All that'll likely change there is the chipset unless JB is released by then.....it'll be similar sized, same resolution, etc....
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No. For example the Galaxy S III, I would be all over that if the american version came with the quad core exynos and LTE. But it doesn't. That processor is beast, and already surpasses the qualcomm S4. And I'd love it even more if it came in the same package as the Galaxy Nexus.
As far as the Evo LTE, yes it's faster, has a better screen, and is LTE enabled. But I won't have LTE until the end of this year in my market, and I already had the latest Android OS, ICS. I think Sense 4 is over rated tbh, and yes I have tried it out. Plus the looks don't sit quite right with me. One thing I love about the Nexus is that it's just so sleek and simple, and that makes it sexy. The front is completely blacked out to the point that you can't really tell where the screen ends and where the rest of the face begins. The Evo LTE has like 5 different designs going on. Brushed aluminum sides, matte black bottom backing, glossy black top backing, anodized red aluminum stripe for the kick stand, and cheap plastic for the power/volume buttons (which I have learned to HATE on my old Evo 4G and my 3D). It's like the designers couldn't decide what to go with and just said hey **** it we'll put all of them together!
And it's not like my Evo 3D is slow right now. It's still chewing through everything I throw at it (thank you mikey for MeanROM).
I just can't get myself to lock into another 2 year contract knowing that the next gen of technology is right around the corner (IE, Q3/Q4 of this year). Specifically talking about the quad core qualcomm S4 with the adreno 320 GPU. That will offer a HUGE increase in performance over what I have now and that, I will have no problem signing a contract for. Especially if it's in a Nexus phone that offers pure android. Also it would be nice if it supported Sprint's 800 mhz LTE that they will roll out in 2013/2014.
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Is it wrong that I feel slightly compelled to return my EvoLTE (got a few days left in my 14) and get the SGS3? With a global launch of nearly identical phones (save for CDMA, frequencies, etc, S4 in the US), it is gonna be a hit phone. I really have very few issues with the EvoLTE besides the goofy multitasking button (for which I installed the mod).
I know the screen is technically inferior, but most who have used SGS3 seem to agree our eyes can't tell.
2GB RAM is REALLY compelling, and I think its going to have a kicking dev community, and no locked bootloader.
Please don't write me off as a troll. I'm not a hater, I like the EvoLTE. I'm just going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years, and feel under pressure to make the right choice.
ill keep my htc. i prefer sense over crappy touchwiz or whatever its called
but if you want it so bad you should get it ^_^
I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
There are great devs here too. For me I'm keeping the Evo.
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Crap radios,weird looking (my opinion),poor build quality,touchwiz,GPS issues ,screenes not as good.I never have a problem with a gig of ram. I just think it isn't necessary... yet anyway.it's gonna be a beast for sure, just don't like Samsung...definitely a matter of opinion .I don't think there will be that much of a difference in performance.
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Horrible radios! i was getting half the speeds of what i do now, voice and data. Never going back to Samsuck
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Why is the SGSIII screen worse than the EVO 4g LTE?
As others have said radios are not good however I guess this will be the true test as far as radios seeing how they are using Qualcomm chip with radio built in... And then we will know if its just their crappy programming or something. Lol also the screen is up to you I have a gn basically same screen as sgsiii and its ok however the sgsiii is slightly better I guess cause of spacing?
Touchwiz isn't good imo and its the same look as it has been HTC at least reinvented the wheel this time around to.make it better in some ways. The extra 100 in batt will help some probably due to the screen. However I have seen many people say and or show up over on the LTE side from the og and other places.
2gigs of ram gimmick IMO I know some people say they have reloading issues when they hit home I haveny had that or anything... Not to mention the iPhone beat the sgsiii in a drop test I want to see EVO LTE in a drop test with it lol. So its all up to you keep man. And what you like better and if you want to bite down on a 35$ restock fee or 70$ restock fee if you.get the gsiii and decide you want EVO back lol.
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I'll be sticking with my LTEvo based on looks alone. The SG3 may beat out the LTE by a hair, but not by much if any. Ive been told the US version SG3 will have the same dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor as the LTE and the only thing it has on the LTE is the 2GB ram. Its a nice phone no doubt but the build quality on the LTE is simply amazing. Im happy with my LTE but im sure the SG3 will just as nice! Its great to have two awesome phones to choose from!
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I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
After owning an EVO Shift then a Nexus S 4G I am sticking with the EVO. The feel of the phone is better and I believe HTC uses better internal parts. I never had reboots at all on my EVO Shift. I had reboots and screen of death frequently on my Nexus.
I also will never own another phone with a pentile screen, no matter what people say I can't see.
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
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this.
I had the Epic 4G Touch since launch and even though I had no problems with the development, it was SLOW to start. it got root fast (that's to zedomax) but everything else came slowly, AOSP came 3-4 months or so after release, everything else was pretty much dominated by one or two devs/teams. Why? Because CDMA came later and is less popular than GSM, and which is global - the International version is GSM and the conversion of roms from GSM to CDMA is more difficult and time consuming than you would think. Rest assured there will be some devs as there always is with galaxy phones but you can't compare it to the amount there are with the International/GSM galaxy phones.
This phone, and however, blew me away with what we have thus far. Why? Because there isn't a "GSM" version to suck most of the great devs away from our development. it's got the best starting development out of all the Sprint devices I've seen(next to the OG EVO, and of course)
Several of the gimmicky features of the S3 are apks that have been leaked already (posted s voice and floating video player in themes&apps section). that said, I there isn't really anything that makes the S3 unique except the 2 gb ram and the HD pentile screen (debatable)
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much.
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
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Actually, Epic Touch had very good developer support.
The samoled hd screen is indeed inferior.
Samsung phones definitely have better build quality, but they are made of plastic, so it's a wash.
Epic Touch had good support from Samsung.
Touchwiz is actually a much better skin than Sense. Especially sense 4, which is a bloatware and a resource hog. One thing you can expect from GS3 for Sprint is that it's going to have stellar software, where everything is hardware accelerated to the max and buttery smooth and fast.
I'm probably gonna keep the evo cause I hate the look of the gs3, but I'm also hoping that we can steal some of their software.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
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I doubt people are going to move from the ET4G, which is less than a year old, to the GS3. I am sure some of themore hard core crowd will but most people are under a contract or are quite happy with their phone. The reason a lot of people are moving to the new EVO is because they were on contract with the OG EVO or are using their last yearly upgrade from the 3D.
The Dev's alone will keep me from keeping my EVO. They made me like my 3D even when I had buyers remorse over the S2. They almost made me not have to buy this phone, thanks to the ONE s Rom. I'm also liking what I'm seeing so far, even though the phone has only been out for a week.
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Screen : research pentile , you'll see people viewing it under a microscope with some criticisms. Shrug.
Development community.. With sprints phone being more or less identical to verizons, I think it'll be at least as good. But for me, I just want a stable cm9, which really only takes a couple good devs. And both phones will have that, so I'll concede a wash.
Gps and radios, good points. Certainly one of the reasons I chose htc after my og epic. But maybe just maybe they got it figured out?
When picking a phone for 2 years, specs are key for me. Think about your computer: twice the ram is significant. Particularly considering the multitasking issues I too have experienced on this phone. Almost no apps truly save their state when you go away from them for a few min. And we'll be hoping both android 5 and 6 go on these generation phones (via Cyanogen probably) so more ram may be significant at that time.
Didn't have any issues with my epic build quality, came to appreciate the plastic even.
Also- isn't the gpu better, or will it be the same as evo in the us models?
Argh
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Yes, that epic touch was built like a tank.
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One more thing. Will Samsung ever make a phone that has a working GPS? I'm still waiting for my girlfriend's GS2 find a "GPS signal"
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I am making this thread because I know things are about to get crazy here (apparently they have already) with SGSIII and Evo comparisons. I just want people to realize that there is absolutely no need to lose any sleep or hair when choosing between two equally impressive devices.
The problem with this whole lte vs gs3 things stems from the fact that most people aren't confident in their ability to make decisions. Neither HTC nor Samsung have hid any features or specs from us, WE KNOW WHAT EACH PHONE IS CAPABLE OF, now it is up to the end user to make a final decision. The differences between the two phones have been stated over and over and over and over and over again, I seriously can't understand where the lack of comprehension is coming from with many.
Ultimately I personally chose the EVO and purchased it just a few hours go after weeks of evaluation and Samsung finally releasing the U.S versions specs. Also my local BestBuy somehow had one for me even though my pre-order stated it'd take over a week.
I'm a firm believer in doing research and making my own decisions based on my personal needs, so here is what led me to choose the EVO over the Galaxy and in the end it ultimately came down to prefrence becasue both phones are virtually identical in terms of real-world use (You will NEVER use 2gb of ram on a cell-phone..And I will NEVER eat those words )
One of the main deciding factors for me was brand loyalty. I have been with HTC since the Kaiser and the OG Evo still remains the most awesome phone ever invented (mostly due to the dev community here )
Another deciding factor for me was the design and look/feel of the Evo. At first I despised the multicolored back but after experiencing the phone in person it sold me. The design of this thing is truly beautiful and I can always mod the back if I feel it necessary. I do like the design of the Galaxy as well, but I am fairly certain that the build quality of it is not on par with the Evo. This is how it's always been with HTC v.s Samsung and Samsung has made it obvious that they are fine with this.
So there you have it. Those were my primary two deciding factors that ultimately pushed me to the Evo even though i'v been leaning towards the galaxy for the past few weeks.
To me all of the other differences between these two phones are very much irrelevant. 1gb vs 2gb ram. Sense vs TouchWiz. Screen differences (this was actually a middle ground deciding factor for me because when I first saw the LTE screen it really did blow me away) and most of the other minor differences
will have absolutely no impact on the large majority of users day to day experience.
But like I said earlier guys, Ultimately the decision of what phone to get really shouldn't be that hard for you. My gut played a huge factor in helping me decide and I highly suggest you all listen to yours as well.
The worst case scenario is that you purchase the phone, don't like it and return it within your two week test period, then rinse and repeat...Unless you are one of the very few people in the DARKEST timeline--in that case you are screwed because you will most likely brake your phone within a week and have forgotten to get insurance on it and you won't be able to figure out a way to convince Bestbuy or Sprint to add it on...but don't worry, this most likely won't happen to you
Either way, don't let all of this EVO vs sgsIII non-sense have a huge impact on your decision because most of the stuff you hear here is 100% personal bias and nothing more. Also don't be phased by the "all the bug" threads cropping up. If you have purchased a smart-phone before, within it's first 6-months of life then you will know there is absolutely nothing to worry about. These manufacturers invest A LOT of money into testing and insuring the quality of these devices, software bugs are nothing to spill milk over. It's the same thing with video games (I.E Diablo III) and every electronic on the market.
TL DR
And how again is this related to support for the EVO LTE? Support means helping make the phone user's experience better, opinions don't do that. Another phone comparison thread...so much wasted space...sigh
Edit: I wanted to delete this but I will leave it here as a reminder of how stoopid I was...
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(You will NEVER use 2gb of ram on a cell-phone..And I will NEVER eat those words )
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Right... LG already jumped on the 2GB bandwagon and I'm sure that if HTC included 2GB in the EVO LTE, you wouldn't complain either. 2GB of RAM is where the future is for Android devices. Smartphones were never just "cell-phones" so having that amount of RAM is only logical in the evolution of technology. If the Atrix had shipped with 2GB of ram, the webtop may have actually been usable and not just a piece of garbage. Now, next year, or the year after that when you make your next "cell-phone" purchase and it has 2GB of RAM, I will most definitely expect you to be eating your words, because not only will you welcome the addition, you will undoubtedly enjoy it as well. Just because Samsung did it doesn't mean you need to try and find a way to downplay it. It is a much needed addition on a bloated Android skin like Sense. That is all.
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And how again is this related to support for the EVO LTE? Support means helping make the phone user's experience better, opinions don't do that. Another phone comparison thread...so much wasted space...sigh
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haha yeah I might of possibly realized that after pressing "submit reply" before "preview post"...I still think this will help convince at least one person on which phone they should choose as it takes a less bias approach and doesn't "technically" compare the two.
Also the Community pun should lighten things up a bit...haha
sorry if this isn't your ideal thread man, welcome to XDA ):
freeza said:
Right... LG already jumped on the 2GB bandwagon and I'm sure that if HTC included 2GB in the EVO LTE, you wouldn't complain either. 2GB of RAM is where the future is for Android devices. Smartphones were never just "cell-phones" so having that amount of RAM is only logical in the evolution of technology. If the Atrix had shipped with 2GB of ram, the webtop may have actually been usable and not just a piece of garbage. Now, next year, or the year after that when you make your next "cell-phone" purchase and it has 2GB of RAM, I will most definitely expect you to be eating your words, because not only will you welcome the addition, you will undoubtedly enjoy it as well. Just because Samsung did it doesn't mean you need to try and find a way to downplay it. It is a much needed addition on a bloated Android skin like Sense. That is all.
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oh don't get me wrong, i'd love to have 2gb of ram (and surely wouldn't complain if we had it) but I just don't personally see how practical it is for current Android devices and the overall current state of Android. I feel pretty confident that we won't tap into the true potential of having 2gb or ram for at least another year or so. I figured Samsung just added it as a "plus" since they couldn't get their quad-core processors stateside.
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oh don't get me wrong, i'd love to have 2gb of ram (and surely wouldn't complain if we had it) but I just don't personally see how practical it is for current Android devices and the overall current state of Android. I feel pretty confident that we won't tap into the true potential of having 2gb or ram for at least another year or so. I figured Samsung just added it as a "plus" since they couldn't get their quad-core processors stateside.
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TBH, that is pretty future proof...I'm not sure if Samsung shot themselves in the foot with that or not. Between the S4 processor, the 720p screen, and the 2GB of ram, this is the first time where I don't see this phone being overshadowed by an upgrade in a year's time. Unless they make advancements in camera/software/battery tech, there is no reason why someone wouldn't keep this phone a full two years on contract without feeling 'phone envy"
You have to admit that the EVO LTE with Sense 4 could have greatly benefited from either more RAM or much better memory management by HTC. I'm learning towards more RAM though. How much better could you manage memory on a resource hog like Sense 4? Yes it's supposedly lighter and all that but no one has really stopped to think that maybe it's not Sense 4 that's less bloated--maybe it is Android 4.0 and the Snapdragon S4's ability to handle it better. I'm thinking it's more ICS and its hardware acceleration than Sense 4 being 'lighter', because even Sense 3.6 is insanely smooth on the EVO 3D on ICS and I'm positive that if HTC would have stuck with Sense 3.0 on ICS, it would have been every bit as smooth.
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TBH, that is pretty future proof...I'm not sure if Samsung shot themselves in the foot with that or not. Between the S4 processor, the 720p screen, and the 2GB of ram, this is the first time where I don't see this phone being overshadowed by an upgrade in a year's time. Unless they make advancements in camera/software/battery tech, there is no reason why someone wouldn't keep this phone a full two years on contract without feeling 'phone envy"
You have to admit that the EVO LTE with Sense 4 could have greatly benefited from either more RAM or much better memory management by HTC. I'm learning towards more RAM though. How much better could you manage memory on a resource hog like Sense 4? Yes it's supposedly lighter and all that but no one has really stopped to think that maybe it's not Sense 4 that's less bloated--maybe it is Android 4.0 and the Snapdragon S4's ability to handle it better. I'm thinking it's more ICS and its hardware acceleration than Sense 4 being 'lighter', because even Sense 3.6 is insanely smooth on the EVO 3D on ICS and I'm positive that if HTC would have stuck with Sense 3.0 on ICS, it would have been every bit as smooth.
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I've only had the phone for less than 24hrs so I can't really form much of an opinion on sense 4.0's performance just yet, but I suspect that any issues that may arise will most likely be due to software related bugs and not an inadequate amount of ram. Also hopefully in the coming weeks we get some optimized and de-bloated roms that make things run pretty freaking baby butt smooth. It might just be my personal bias, but I really do genuinely feel that 2gb of ram is overkill.
Having it is nice of course, but when looked at from a practical perspective just seems irrelevant. Also at the current rate of technology I really don't think there is anything Samsung of HTC could do to future proof their phones past a year, I mean the new Photon is reported to arrive then end of this year and it supposedly has the "new and improved" quad core snapdragon in it as well as 2gb of ram, and this supposed to be within 6 months....But who really knows, the future of technology has always been strange and unpredictable. I'm actually curious to see what Apple brings to the table and if they can somehow raise the standard..which is far fetch.
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Didn't realize it was you who replied, Freeza. I'm sure whatever rom you release is going to prove just how capable 1gb of ram can be (;
heres my take on it all ram can be nice... however outside of the dumb multi tasking they killed which has been fixed i believe on the one x... extra ram yeah its nice needed meh depends i suppose. now as far as future proof goes.
There are only so many more improvements these companies can make more storage space,more ram,camera,battery. and of course jump from dual core to quad core WITH built in radios.now space camera and battery are decent so far and dual to quad eh we will see when qualcomm breaks out theirs since we obviously wont see samsungs unless its on a tablet...
I want battery improvements some more camera maybe however this camera is pretty damn good space eh if we go total sd card less then need 32 gigs min. 1080p screen would be 100% pointless and i have a feeling next yr samoled+ hd perhaps which would make this phone "not as future proof" as we all know big diff between samoled and samoled +.
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Dude, I honestly don't know what TL or DR means... I'm sorry I didn't catch your internet slang. Also I understand if you feel that my thread is pointless, i'm sure a lot of people feel that way but adding negativity doesn't help in any way, what so ever. Either ignore it or ignore it. No need to come in here and try to start a flame war with me.
I wrote this thread in the spur of the moment as I was admiring my new Evo and reminiscing as to how stressed I let myself get the past couple weeks because I couldn't decide what phone to get...Thank God that I realized (after I purchased the phone) that it's just a freaking phone and there was no reason for me or anyone else to get all worked up over which of the two new gold standard phones is better.
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tl dr means to long didnt read basically just hoping in a thread and high jacking it
ckoadiyn said:
tl dr means to long didnt read basically just hoping in a thread and high jacking it
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If I was 'hoping' in a thread I would 'hope' that said thread was relevant to improving the user experience on a development forum. Not useless opinions which xda is now over run with...time for me to go back in my cave for a few months...and maybe when I come out spelling will have improved and the intelligence level will be commensurate...
Edit: sometimes I wonder what I'm thinking when I post stuff...I am not trying to sound like this, I swear!
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heres my take on it all ram can be nice... however outside of the dumb multi tasking they killed which has been fixed i believe on the one x... extra ram yeah its nice needed meh depends i suppose. now as far as future proof goes.
There are only so many more improvements these companies can make more storage space,more ram,camera,battery. and of course jump from dual core to quad core WITH built in radios.now space camera and battery are decent so far and dual to quad eh we will see when qualcomm breaks out theirs since we obviously wont see samsungs unless its on a tablet...
I want battery improvements some more camera maybe however this camera is pretty damn good space eh if we go total sd card less then need 32 gigs min. 1080p screen would be 100% pointless and i have a feeling next yr samoled+ hd perhaps which would make this phone "not as future proof" as we all know big diff between samoled and samoled +.
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tl dr means to long didnt read basically just hoping in a thread and high jacking it
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yeah I feel like mobile technology should be slowing down any day now...I mean moore's law can only be pushed so far before it hits some type of complications. But then again i'm sure people were saying this years ago also.
I decided not to go completely haywire over the camera and analyze ever single detail, pixel and shade and the end result left me extremely satisfied with this phone camera capabilities. I applaud HTC on the leap they've made in a field that they haven't been particularly strong with in the past.
I'm definitely with you when it comes to battery technology. I really wish we'd see some improvements in that field but it seems like it's been at a stalemate for the last couple years...aside from all the solar powered activity taking place.
Thanks for informing me on what those acronyms meant...Made me realize how obvious obvious troll was. lol
RAM means nothing unless you are a hardcore gamer and no real gamer is playing on a cell phone. So to the avg Joe it means nothing.
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I chose Evo over sgs3 by looking at specs, devices with similar hardware (like displays), and industry reviews of both.
Of course, all of the reviews said of how much they liked this new Sense version, and how light it was on top of the ics.
And of course, they forgot to mention that all those reviews were complete garbage, and that Sense4 was the most buggy bloated slow resource hogging pos HTC has put out to date. And that as soon as you installed a couple of apps/widgets/live wallpapers, this joke of a skin made an awesome device slower and more sluggish than previous generation Samsung devices (sgs2).
Now I'm seriously considering returning the phone, picking up an sgs3, and probably never ever trying to buy another htc device. Definitely not until they hire themselves a team of competent software engineers, who don't have **** for brains.
freeza said:
Right... LG already jumped on the 2GB bandwagon and I'm sure that if HTC included 2GB in the EVO LTE, you wouldn't complain either. 2GB of RAM is where the future is for Android devices. Smartphones were never just "cell-phones" so having that amount of RAM is only logical in the evolution of technology. If the Atrix had shipped with 2GB of ram, the webtop may have actually been usable and not just a piece of garbage. Now, next year, or the year after that when you make your next "cell-phone" purchase and it has 2GB of RAM, I will most definitely expect you to be eating your words, because not only will you welcome the addition, you will undoubtedly enjoy it as well. Just because Samsung did it doesn't mean you need to try and find a way to downplay it. It is a much needed addition on a bloated Android skin like Sense. That is all.
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Exactly! as developers push out more better and intense apps which are bigger in size and require more resources to run RAM is going to be needed...its part of evolution and will always be asking for more to an extent...
freeza said:
TBH, that is pretty future proof...I'm not sure if Samsung shot themselves in the foot with that or not. Between the S4 processor, the 720p screen, and the 2GB of ram, this is the first time where I don't see this phone being overshadowed by an upgrade in a year's time. Unless they make advancements in camera/software/battery tech, there is no reason why someone wouldn't keep this phone a full two years on contract without feeling 'phone envy"
You have to admit that the EVO LTE with Sense 4 could have greatly benefited from either more RAM or much better memory management by HTC. I'm learning towards more RAM though. How much better could you manage memory on a resource hog like Sense 4? Yes it's supposedly lighter and all that but no one has really stopped to think that maybe it's not Sense 4 that's less bloated--maybe it is Android 4.0 and the Snapdragon S4's ability to handle it better. I'm thinking it's more ICS and its hardware acceleration than Sense 4 being 'lighter', because even Sense 3.6 is insanely smooth on the EVO 3D on ICS and I'm positive that if HTC would have stuck with Sense 3.0 on ICS, it would have been every bit as smooth.
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really? come on Freeza....ponder this for a sec......Next May/June-> HTC EVO with 2GB RAM, quad-core 28nm chip, support for 800MHz LTE(this starts being tested in FIT's next year and rolled after, so might or might not see this in 2013 EVO or wait till 2014's EVO), 2.6GHz LTE Support(Clearwire set to have sites up and live by June next yr, up in air if Sprint waits to support this or goes later), SoC supports LTE Advanced!....
raiderep said:
If I was 'hoping' in a thread I would 'hope' that said thread was relevant to improving the user experience on a development forum. Not useless opinions which xda is now over run with...time for me to go back in my cave for a few months...and maybe when I come out spelling will have improved and the intelligence level will be commensurate...
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Oh, you mean like how people might stop using "tl;dr" when they obviously did read it? (How else would one know how to make such meaningful comments on the post?) Or were you referring to how complaining about a spelling mistake looks petty and is ironic when the author himself ends sentences in prepositions? (You might also want to review the proper use of ellipses vis a vis spacing and when to include a leading period, as well as capitalization conventions.)
A spelling error could be a simple case of auto-correction gone awry or just fast typing, but poor sentence structure is on the writer. And I hate that I wasted so much off-topic space on this reply, so please forgive me, Internet.
Also, "overrun" is one word.
SilverZero said:
Oh, you mean like how people might stop using "tl;dr" when they obviously did read it? (How else would one know how to make such meaningful comments on the post?) Or were you referring to how complaining about a spelling mistake looks petty and is ironic when the author himself ends sentences in prepositions? (You might also want to review the proper use of ellipses vis a vis spacing and when to include a leading period, as well as capitalization conventions.)
A spelling error could be a simple case of auto-correction gone awry or just fast typing, but poor sentence structure is on the writer. And I hate that I wasted so much off-topic space on this reply, so please forgive me, Internet.
Also, "overrun" is one word.
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I forgive you even though I am unsure if you where poking at me as well in your post. I am not a English major and I know my grammar is far from perfect and online it tends to be aweful. So I appologize to the grammar people as well for my mistakes.
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starplaya93 said:
Screen differences (this was actually a middle ground deciding factor for me because when I first saw the LTE screen it really did blow me away) and most of the other minor differences
will have absolutely no impact on the large majority of users day to day experience.
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What is it about the screen that blows you away? The reason I ask is because everyone keeps saying that, and the first thing I noticed when I got mine is that the screen is washed out. For example, if you open up Words with Friends, the tiles all blend together. I came from an Amoled phone (Epic), and contrast wise, looked much nicer. Resolution on the other hand is nice. Colors (despite being a little washed out) are well balanced out of the box. I am guessing that those coming from the OG Evo like the screen, and those coming from Amoled may not as much.
I am keeping the phone though because there are so many other pluses that I like about it.
caspertodd said:
What is it about the screen that blows you away? The reason I ask is because everyone keeps saying that, and the first thing I noticed when I got mine is that the screen is washed out. For example, if you open up Words with Friends, the tiles all blend together. I came from an Amoled phone (Epic), and it contrast wise, looked much nicer. Resolution on the other hand is nice. Colors (despite being a little washed out) are well balanced out of the box. I am guessing that those coming from the OG Evo like the screen, and those coming from Amoled may not as much.
I am keeping the phone though because there are so many other pluses that I like about it.
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I can say the screen blows me away for a couple reasons. The colors are awesome, I like the resolution and responsivness of the screen and its easy to see in any light for me.I came from the 3d and I'm impressed lol.
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There is no such thing as "future-proof." It's a term used a lot when talking about computing and I laugh every time I hear it. Twenty years ago, we had hard drives with less capacity than sticks of RAM these days. I can't think of one single detriment to having more RAM. It may use more power, but it gives the OS more space to immediately work with (excuse my ending a sentence in a preposition).
With phone processors finally breaking the 1.0GHz barrier in recent years, the next major milestone should be 2.0GHz. I would personally rather see a 2.5GHz dual-core processor in a phone before a 1.5GHz quad-core. I'm sure app development will one day reach the point where multi-threaded apps are fairly common and those extra cores will be needed, but a higher-clocked dual-core processor is better for most practical applications. Those extra physical cores don't really shine until you're doing some intense processing, which I don't see happening on a phone for quite some time.
ckoadiyn said:
I can say the screen blows me away for a couple reasons. The colors are awesome, I like the resolution and responsivness of the screen and its easy to see in any light for me.I came from the 3d and I'm impressed lol.
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I haven't tried it in the sun yet. That is one thing that was awful with my Epic.
caspertodd said:
I haven't tried it in the sun yet. That is one thing that was awful with my Epic.
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Its just as bad on the SGS3 too.