I am making this thread because I know things are about to get crazy here (apparently they have already) with SGSIII and Evo comparisons. I just want people to realize that there is absolutely no need to lose any sleep or hair when choosing between two equally impressive devices.
The problem with this whole lte vs gs3 things stems from the fact that most people aren't confident in their ability to make decisions. Neither HTC nor Samsung have hid any features or specs from us, WE KNOW WHAT EACH PHONE IS CAPABLE OF, now it is up to the end user to make a final decision. The differences between the two phones have been stated over and over and over and over and over again, I seriously can't understand where the lack of comprehension is coming from with many.
Ultimately I personally chose the EVO and purchased it just a few hours go after weeks of evaluation and Samsung finally releasing the U.S versions specs. Also my local BestBuy somehow had one for me even though my pre-order stated it'd take over a week.
I'm a firm believer in doing research and making my own decisions based on my personal needs, so here is what led me to choose the EVO over the Galaxy and in the end it ultimately came down to prefrence becasue both phones are virtually identical in terms of real-world use (You will NEVER use 2gb of ram on a cell-phone..And I will NEVER eat those words )
One of the main deciding factors for me was brand loyalty. I have been with HTC since the Kaiser and the OG Evo still remains the most awesome phone ever invented (mostly due to the dev community here )
Another deciding factor for me was the design and look/feel of the Evo. At first I despised the multicolored back but after experiencing the phone in person it sold me. The design of this thing is truly beautiful and I can always mod the back if I feel it necessary. I do like the design of the Galaxy as well, but I am fairly certain that the build quality of it is not on par with the Evo. This is how it's always been with HTC v.s Samsung and Samsung has made it obvious that they are fine with this.
So there you have it. Those were my primary two deciding factors that ultimately pushed me to the Evo even though i'v been leaning towards the galaxy for the past few weeks.
To me all of the other differences between these two phones are very much irrelevant. 1gb vs 2gb ram. Sense vs TouchWiz. Screen differences (this was actually a middle ground deciding factor for me because when I first saw the LTE screen it really did blow me away) and most of the other minor differences
will have absolutely no impact on the large majority of users day to day experience.
But like I said earlier guys, Ultimately the decision of what phone to get really shouldn't be that hard for you. My gut played a huge factor in helping me decide and I highly suggest you all listen to yours as well.
The worst case scenario is that you purchase the phone, don't like it and return it within your two week test period, then rinse and repeat...Unless you are one of the very few people in the DARKEST timeline--in that case you are screwed because you will most likely brake your phone within a week and have forgotten to get insurance on it and you won't be able to figure out a way to convince Bestbuy or Sprint to add it on...but don't worry, this most likely won't happen to you
Either way, don't let all of this EVO vs sgsIII non-sense have a huge impact on your decision because most of the stuff you hear here is 100% personal bias and nothing more. Also don't be phased by the "all the bug" threads cropping up. If you have purchased a smart-phone before, within it's first 6-months of life then you will know there is absolutely nothing to worry about. These manufacturers invest A LOT of money into testing and insuring the quality of these devices, software bugs are nothing to spill milk over. It's the same thing with video games (I.E Diablo III) and every electronic on the market.
TL DR
And how again is this related to support for the EVO LTE? Support means helping make the phone user's experience better, opinions don't do that. Another phone comparison thread...so much wasted space...sigh
Edit: I wanted to delete this but I will leave it here as a reminder of how stoopid I was...
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(You will NEVER use 2gb of ram on a cell-phone..And I will NEVER eat those words )
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Right... LG already jumped on the 2GB bandwagon and I'm sure that if HTC included 2GB in the EVO LTE, you wouldn't complain either. 2GB of RAM is where the future is for Android devices. Smartphones were never just "cell-phones" so having that amount of RAM is only logical in the evolution of technology. If the Atrix had shipped with 2GB of ram, the webtop may have actually been usable and not just a piece of garbage. Now, next year, or the year after that when you make your next "cell-phone" purchase and it has 2GB of RAM, I will most definitely expect you to be eating your words, because not only will you welcome the addition, you will undoubtedly enjoy it as well. Just because Samsung did it doesn't mean you need to try and find a way to downplay it. It is a much needed addition on a bloated Android skin like Sense. That is all.
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And how again is this related to support for the EVO LTE? Support means helping make the phone user's experience better, opinions don't do that. Another phone comparison thread...so much wasted space...sigh
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haha yeah I might of possibly realized that after pressing "submit reply" before "preview post"...I still think this will help convince at least one person on which phone they should choose as it takes a less bias approach and doesn't "technically" compare the two.
Also the Community pun should lighten things up a bit...haha
sorry if this isn't your ideal thread man, welcome to XDA ):
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Right... LG already jumped on the 2GB bandwagon and I'm sure that if HTC included 2GB in the EVO LTE, you wouldn't complain either. 2GB of RAM is where the future is for Android devices. Smartphones were never just "cell-phones" so having that amount of RAM is only logical in the evolution of technology. If the Atrix had shipped with 2GB of ram, the webtop may have actually been usable and not just a piece of garbage. Now, next year, or the year after that when you make your next "cell-phone" purchase and it has 2GB of RAM, I will most definitely expect you to be eating your words, because not only will you welcome the addition, you will undoubtedly enjoy it as well. Just because Samsung did it doesn't mean you need to try and find a way to downplay it. It is a much needed addition on a bloated Android skin like Sense. That is all.
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oh don't get me wrong, i'd love to have 2gb of ram (and surely wouldn't complain if we had it) but I just don't personally see how practical it is for current Android devices and the overall current state of Android. I feel pretty confident that we won't tap into the true potential of having 2gb or ram for at least another year or so. I figured Samsung just added it as a "plus" since they couldn't get their quad-core processors stateside.
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oh don't get me wrong, i'd love to have 2gb of ram (and surely wouldn't complain if we had it) but I just don't personally see how practical it is for current Android devices and the overall current state of Android. I feel pretty confident that we won't tap into the true potential of having 2gb or ram for at least another year or so. I figured Samsung just added it as a "plus" since they couldn't get their quad-core processors stateside.
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TBH, that is pretty future proof...I'm not sure if Samsung shot themselves in the foot with that or not. Between the S4 processor, the 720p screen, and the 2GB of ram, this is the first time where I don't see this phone being overshadowed by an upgrade in a year's time. Unless they make advancements in camera/software/battery tech, there is no reason why someone wouldn't keep this phone a full two years on contract without feeling 'phone envy"
You have to admit that the EVO LTE with Sense 4 could have greatly benefited from either more RAM or much better memory management by HTC. I'm learning towards more RAM though. How much better could you manage memory on a resource hog like Sense 4? Yes it's supposedly lighter and all that but no one has really stopped to think that maybe it's not Sense 4 that's less bloated--maybe it is Android 4.0 and the Snapdragon S4's ability to handle it better. I'm thinking it's more ICS and its hardware acceleration than Sense 4 being 'lighter', because even Sense 3.6 is insanely smooth on the EVO 3D on ICS and I'm positive that if HTC would have stuck with Sense 3.0 on ICS, it would have been every bit as smooth.
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TBH, that is pretty future proof...I'm not sure if Samsung shot themselves in the foot with that or not. Between the S4 processor, the 720p screen, and the 2GB of ram, this is the first time where I don't see this phone being overshadowed by an upgrade in a year's time. Unless they make advancements in camera/software/battery tech, there is no reason why someone wouldn't keep this phone a full two years on contract without feeling 'phone envy"
You have to admit that the EVO LTE with Sense 4 could have greatly benefited from either more RAM or much better memory management by HTC. I'm learning towards more RAM though. How much better could you manage memory on a resource hog like Sense 4? Yes it's supposedly lighter and all that but no one has really stopped to think that maybe it's not Sense 4 that's less bloated--maybe it is Android 4.0 and the Snapdragon S4's ability to handle it better. I'm thinking it's more ICS and its hardware acceleration than Sense 4 being 'lighter', because even Sense 3.6 is insanely smooth on the EVO 3D on ICS and I'm positive that if HTC would have stuck with Sense 3.0 on ICS, it would have been every bit as smooth.
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I've only had the phone for less than 24hrs so I can't really form much of an opinion on sense 4.0's performance just yet, but I suspect that any issues that may arise will most likely be due to software related bugs and not an inadequate amount of ram. Also hopefully in the coming weeks we get some optimized and de-bloated roms that make things run pretty freaking baby butt smooth. It might just be my personal bias, but I really do genuinely feel that 2gb of ram is overkill.
Having it is nice of course, but when looked at from a practical perspective just seems irrelevant. Also at the current rate of technology I really don't think there is anything Samsung of HTC could do to future proof their phones past a year, I mean the new Photon is reported to arrive then end of this year and it supposedly has the "new and improved" quad core snapdragon in it as well as 2gb of ram, and this supposed to be within 6 months....But who really knows, the future of technology has always been strange and unpredictable. I'm actually curious to see what Apple brings to the table and if they can somehow raise the standard..which is far fetch.
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Didn't realize it was you who replied, Freeza. I'm sure whatever rom you release is going to prove just how capable 1gb of ram can be (;
heres my take on it all ram can be nice... however outside of the dumb multi tasking they killed which has been fixed i believe on the one x... extra ram yeah its nice needed meh depends i suppose. now as far as future proof goes.
There are only so many more improvements these companies can make more storage space,more ram,camera,battery. and of course jump from dual core to quad core WITH built in radios.now space camera and battery are decent so far and dual to quad eh we will see when qualcomm breaks out theirs since we obviously wont see samsungs unless its on a tablet...
I want battery improvements some more camera maybe however this camera is pretty damn good space eh if we go total sd card less then need 32 gigs min. 1080p screen would be 100% pointless and i have a feeling next yr samoled+ hd perhaps which would make this phone "not as future proof" as we all know big diff between samoled and samoled +.
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Dude, I honestly don't know what TL or DR means... I'm sorry I didn't catch your internet slang. Also I understand if you feel that my thread is pointless, i'm sure a lot of people feel that way but adding negativity doesn't help in any way, what so ever. Either ignore it or ignore it. No need to come in here and try to start a flame war with me.
I wrote this thread in the spur of the moment as I was admiring my new Evo and reminiscing as to how stressed I let myself get the past couple weeks because I couldn't decide what phone to get...Thank God that I realized (after I purchased the phone) that it's just a freaking phone and there was no reason for me or anyone else to get all worked up over which of the two new gold standard phones is better.
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tl dr means to long didnt read basically just hoping in a thread and high jacking it
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tl dr means to long didnt read basically just hoping in a thread and high jacking it
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If I was 'hoping' in a thread I would 'hope' that said thread was relevant to improving the user experience on a development forum. Not useless opinions which xda is now over run with...time for me to go back in my cave for a few months...and maybe when I come out spelling will have improved and the intelligence level will be commensurate...
Edit: sometimes I wonder what I'm thinking when I post stuff...I am not trying to sound like this, I swear!
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heres my take on it all ram can be nice... however outside of the dumb multi tasking they killed which has been fixed i believe on the one x... extra ram yeah its nice needed meh depends i suppose. now as far as future proof goes.
There are only so many more improvements these companies can make more storage space,more ram,camera,battery. and of course jump from dual core to quad core WITH built in radios.now space camera and battery are decent so far and dual to quad eh we will see when qualcomm breaks out theirs since we obviously wont see samsungs unless its on a tablet...
I want battery improvements some more camera maybe however this camera is pretty damn good space eh if we go total sd card less then need 32 gigs min. 1080p screen would be 100% pointless and i have a feeling next yr samoled+ hd perhaps which would make this phone "not as future proof" as we all know big diff between samoled and samoled +.
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tl dr means to long didnt read basically just hoping in a thread and high jacking it
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yeah I feel like mobile technology should be slowing down any day now...I mean moore's law can only be pushed so far before it hits some type of complications. But then again i'm sure people were saying this years ago also.
I decided not to go completely haywire over the camera and analyze ever single detail, pixel and shade and the end result left me extremely satisfied with this phone camera capabilities. I applaud HTC on the leap they've made in a field that they haven't been particularly strong with in the past.
I'm definitely with you when it comes to battery technology. I really wish we'd see some improvements in that field but it seems like it's been at a stalemate for the last couple years...aside from all the solar powered activity taking place.
Thanks for informing me on what those acronyms meant...Made me realize how obvious obvious troll was. lol
RAM means nothing unless you are a hardcore gamer and no real gamer is playing on a cell phone. So to the avg Joe it means nothing.
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I chose Evo over sgs3 by looking at specs, devices with similar hardware (like displays), and industry reviews of both.
Of course, all of the reviews said of how much they liked this new Sense version, and how light it was on top of the ics.
And of course, they forgot to mention that all those reviews were complete garbage, and that Sense4 was the most buggy bloated slow resource hogging pos HTC has put out to date. And that as soon as you installed a couple of apps/widgets/live wallpapers, this joke of a skin made an awesome device slower and more sluggish than previous generation Samsung devices (sgs2).
Now I'm seriously considering returning the phone, picking up an sgs3, and probably never ever trying to buy another htc device. Definitely not until they hire themselves a team of competent software engineers, who don't have **** for brains.
freeza said:
Right... LG already jumped on the 2GB bandwagon and I'm sure that if HTC included 2GB in the EVO LTE, you wouldn't complain either. 2GB of RAM is where the future is for Android devices. Smartphones were never just "cell-phones" so having that amount of RAM is only logical in the evolution of technology. If the Atrix had shipped with 2GB of ram, the webtop may have actually been usable and not just a piece of garbage. Now, next year, or the year after that when you make your next "cell-phone" purchase and it has 2GB of RAM, I will most definitely expect you to be eating your words, because not only will you welcome the addition, you will undoubtedly enjoy it as well. Just because Samsung did it doesn't mean you need to try and find a way to downplay it. It is a much needed addition on a bloated Android skin like Sense. That is all.
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Exactly! as developers push out more better and intense apps which are bigger in size and require more resources to run RAM is going to be needed...its part of evolution and will always be asking for more to an extent...
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TBH, that is pretty future proof...I'm not sure if Samsung shot themselves in the foot with that or not. Between the S4 processor, the 720p screen, and the 2GB of ram, this is the first time where I don't see this phone being overshadowed by an upgrade in a year's time. Unless they make advancements in camera/software/battery tech, there is no reason why someone wouldn't keep this phone a full two years on contract without feeling 'phone envy"
You have to admit that the EVO LTE with Sense 4 could have greatly benefited from either more RAM or much better memory management by HTC. I'm learning towards more RAM though. How much better could you manage memory on a resource hog like Sense 4? Yes it's supposedly lighter and all that but no one has really stopped to think that maybe it's not Sense 4 that's less bloated--maybe it is Android 4.0 and the Snapdragon S4's ability to handle it better. I'm thinking it's more ICS and its hardware acceleration than Sense 4 being 'lighter', because even Sense 3.6 is insanely smooth on the EVO 3D on ICS and I'm positive that if HTC would have stuck with Sense 3.0 on ICS, it would have been every bit as smooth.
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really? come on Freeza....ponder this for a sec......Next May/June-> HTC EVO with 2GB RAM, quad-core 28nm chip, support for 800MHz LTE(this starts being tested in FIT's next year and rolled after, so might or might not see this in 2013 EVO or wait till 2014's EVO), 2.6GHz LTE Support(Clearwire set to have sites up and live by June next yr, up in air if Sprint waits to support this or goes later), SoC supports LTE Advanced!....
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If I was 'hoping' in a thread I would 'hope' that said thread was relevant to improving the user experience on a development forum. Not useless opinions which xda is now over run with...time for me to go back in my cave for a few months...and maybe when I come out spelling will have improved and the intelligence level will be commensurate...
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Oh, you mean like how people might stop using "tl;dr" when they obviously did read it? (How else would one know how to make such meaningful comments on the post?) Or were you referring to how complaining about a spelling mistake looks petty and is ironic when the author himself ends sentences in prepositions? (You might also want to review the proper use of ellipses vis a vis spacing and when to include a leading period, as well as capitalization conventions.)
A spelling error could be a simple case of auto-correction gone awry or just fast typing, but poor sentence structure is on the writer. And I hate that I wasted so much off-topic space on this reply, so please forgive me, Internet.
Also, "overrun" is one word.
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Oh, you mean like how people might stop using "tl;dr" when they obviously did read it? (How else would one know how to make such meaningful comments on the post?) Or were you referring to how complaining about a spelling mistake looks petty and is ironic when the author himself ends sentences in prepositions? (You might also want to review the proper use of ellipses vis a vis spacing and when to include a leading period, as well as capitalization conventions.)
A spelling error could be a simple case of auto-correction gone awry or just fast typing, but poor sentence structure is on the writer. And I hate that I wasted so much off-topic space on this reply, so please forgive me, Internet.
Also, "overrun" is one word.
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I forgive you even though I am unsure if you where poking at me as well in your post. I am not a English major and I know my grammar is far from perfect and online it tends to be aweful. So I appologize to the grammar people as well for my mistakes.
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Screen differences (this was actually a middle ground deciding factor for me because when I first saw the LTE screen it really did blow me away) and most of the other minor differences
will have absolutely no impact on the large majority of users day to day experience.
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What is it about the screen that blows you away? The reason I ask is because everyone keeps saying that, and the first thing I noticed when I got mine is that the screen is washed out. For example, if you open up Words with Friends, the tiles all blend together. I came from an Amoled phone (Epic), and contrast wise, looked much nicer. Resolution on the other hand is nice. Colors (despite being a little washed out) are well balanced out of the box. I am guessing that those coming from the OG Evo like the screen, and those coming from Amoled may not as much.
I am keeping the phone though because there are so many other pluses that I like about it.
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What is it about the screen that blows you away? The reason I ask is because everyone keeps saying that, and the first thing I noticed when I got mine is that the screen is washed out. For example, if you open up Words with Friends, the tiles all blend together. I came from an Amoled phone (Epic), and it contrast wise, looked much nicer. Resolution on the other hand is nice. Colors (despite being a little washed out) are well balanced out of the box. I am guessing that those coming from the OG Evo like the screen, and those coming from Amoled may not as much.
I am keeping the phone though because there are so many other pluses that I like about it.
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I can say the screen blows me away for a couple reasons. The colors are awesome, I like the resolution and responsivness of the screen and its easy to see in any light for me.I came from the 3d and I'm impressed lol.
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There is no such thing as "future-proof." It's a term used a lot when talking about computing and I laugh every time I hear it. Twenty years ago, we had hard drives with less capacity than sticks of RAM these days. I can't think of one single detriment to having more RAM. It may use more power, but it gives the OS more space to immediately work with (excuse my ending a sentence in a preposition).
With phone processors finally breaking the 1.0GHz barrier in recent years, the next major milestone should be 2.0GHz. I would personally rather see a 2.5GHz dual-core processor in a phone before a 1.5GHz quad-core. I'm sure app development will one day reach the point where multi-threaded apps are fairly common and those extra cores will be needed, but a higher-clocked dual-core processor is better for most practical applications. Those extra physical cores don't really shine until you're doing some intense processing, which I don't see happening on a phone for quite some time.
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I can say the screen blows me away for a couple reasons. The colors are awesome, I like the resolution and responsivness of the screen and its easy to see in any light for me.I came from the 3d and I'm impressed lol.
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I haven't tried it in the sun yet. That is one thing that was awful with my Epic.
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I haven't tried it in the sun yet. That is one thing that was awful with my Epic.
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Its just as bad on the SGS3 too.
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So over the last couple weeks I’ve been looking in to purchasing a new phone, and to be honest it has been pretty difficult deciding which new phone to get. As I’m sure everyone has, I’ve taken at the iPhone 4 and I have to admit that the apps and such that it offers are impressive. I’m not sure what it is, but there’s something about the iPhone that just doesn’t do it for me though. Instead I’ve been getting pretty excited, like others, about the upcoming HTC Desire HD and although information about the phone is moslty based on rumors I still believe that this phone will be phenominal.
The phone will supposedly run Adroid 2.2 which will allow the phone’s cpu to run up to 2-5 times faster with the OS. This massive change is just between 2.1 and 2.2 and with future Android updates I’m sure that the Adroid OS will only help the HTC Desire HD reach an even higher potential. From what I’ve seen of the original HTC Desire, this phone will be awesome, but if I need a phone soon is it really worth the wait?
Eh. Personally, I don’t think there’s anything HTC will be able to do to keep up with Apple and the iPhone line. Everything that it comes out with seems to be always a day late and a dollar short. The fact that there are barely any apps for the HTC and the fact that the iPhone has the full strength of many veteran app designers behind it means that the iPhone will always be better. My opinion, buy the iPhone4.
what does any of this have to do with the HTC HD2???
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So over the last couple weeks I’ve been looking in to purchasing a new phone, and to be honest it has been pretty difficult deciding which new phone to get. As I’m sure everyone has, I’ve taken at the iPhone 4 and I have to admit that the apps and such that it offers are impressive. I’m not sure what it is, but there’s something about the iPhone that just doesn’t do it for me though. Instead I’ve been getting pretty excited, like others, about the upcoming HTC Desire HD and although information about the phone is moslty based on rumors I still believe that this phone will be phenominal.
The phone will supposedly run Adroid 2.2 which will allow the phone’s cpu to run up to 2-5 times faster with the OS. This massive change is just between 2.1 and 2.2 and with future Android updates I’m sure that the Adroid OS will only help the HTC Desire HD reach an even higher potential. From what I’ve seen of the original HTC Desire, this phone will be awesome, but if I need a phone soon is it really worth the wait?
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I am like you, from what the rumours have told me about the Desire HD.. well you probably guessed from my username here I believe there is a HTC Launch Event in London on the 15th Sept so maybe we'll get some real facts on this device then.
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what does any of this have to do with the HTC HD2???
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Nothing of course, except that its HTC.. obviously this thread is probably better off being moved to the main general forum.
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Eh. Personally, I don’t think there’s anything HTC will be able to do to keep up with Apple and the iPhone line. Everything that it comes out with seems to be always a day late and a dollar short. The fact that there are barely any apps for the HTC and the fact that the iPhone has the full strength of many veteran app designers behind it means that the iPhone will always be better. My opinion, buy the iPhone4.
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I am with you the iphone is the best. It has the more gb's and the wifi's.
I'd personally rather have steve jobs decide how i get to use my phone.
the kicker Is i decided I wanted a iphone when Face time wouldnt work!
wow, noone started iphone flaming till now.. should i? ))
TodStarrr said:
Eh. Personally, I don’t think there’s anything HTC will be able to do to keep up with Apple and the iPhone line. Everything that it comes out with seems to be always a day late and a dollar short. The fact that there are barely any apps for the HTC and the fact that the iPhone has the full strength of many veteran app designers behind it means that the iPhone will always be better. My opinion, buy the iPhone4.
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Lol this did make me laugh, I know Apple invented video calls three months ago, and gimmicky apps definately make a phone.
The fact they made a phone with a 1Ghz processor and lesser specs than a HD2 eight months after it's release. And less than six months before HTC are on the cusp of releasing a dual core mobile processor with a brand new OS. But yeah, you're right, HTC will never be able to keep up.
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Lol this did make me laugh, I know Apple invented video calls three months ago, and gimmicky apps definately make a phone.
The fact they made a phone with a 1Ghz processor and lesser specs than a HD2 eight months after it's release. And less than six months before HTC are on the cusp of releasing a dual core mobile processor with a brand new OS. But yeah, you're right, HTC will never be able to keep up.
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that was EXACTLY my thought too.
but i thought i should first ask if i should start iphone bashing now or not :3 XD
D4rkSoRRoW said:
that was EXACTLY my thought too.
but i thought i should first ask if i should start iphone bashing now or not :3 XD
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I wouldn't call it iPhone bashing, it's just stating facts, with a little sarcasm tacked on for good measure!
The only plus for apple is it's stability.
On the other hand Apple keeps their mobiles low spec, so less chance for errors/problems.
The thing that affronts me the most is the fact that Steve Jobs determines wether apps can be installed or not (remember the "nude" app?), although by this testing / approving of software the phone is more stabe, the manufacturer decides what you can do with your phone, really: Big Brother (steve) is watching you.
Exactly for that reason I do not believe it is a good business phone... it is a good n00b-phone.
Agree
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The only plus for apple is it's stability.
On the other hand Apple keeps their mobiles low spec, so less chance for errors/problems.
The thing that affronts me the most is the fact that Steve Jobs determines wether apps can be installed or not (remember the "nude" app?), although by this testing / approving of software the phone is more stabe, the manufacturer decides what you can do with your phone, really: Big Brother (steve) is watching you.
Exactly for that reason I do not believe it is a good business phone... it is a good n00b-phone.
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I agree with Wilco on this one. I really do hate the fact that Steve Jobs has got his hand in everything little thing you’re able to do with the iPhone. A smart phone to me is almost like laptop nowadays, and for that reason I feel like I should be able to run anything I wish, whether it be stable for the phone or not. If it weren’t for that “affront” as Wilco says, I ‘d probably be jumping on the iPhone bandwagon with much less resistance.
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Lol this did make me laugh, I know Apple invented video calls three months ago, and gimmicky apps definately make a phone.
The fact they made a phone with a 1Ghz processor and lesser specs than a HD2 eight months after it's release. And less than six months before HTC are on the cusp of releasing a dual core mobile processor with a brand new OS. But yeah, you're right, HTC will never be able to keep up.
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Video calling that only works with WIFI and another iphone4...yeah thanks LOL.
For those not interested in a good read, here is the condensed version
According to the opinion of many fellow Android members,
Hero > Moment
Evo > Epic
E3D ? SSG2
I think: E3D > SSG2
Trust history, not reviews focused on one single "bonus" feature provided by a company.
For those who do want to kill time
Well folks, as most of you have witnessed, we the customers of Sprint have once again found ourselves in a predicament. On one hand, we have the brand new HTC Evo 3d and on the other we have the SSGS2/Photon/non-E3D phone. And as it stands, people have been negatively criticizing the E3D for a multitude of reasons, primarily its 3D effect. As long winded as this introduction is, there is a point to it. For the past couple years now we have faced a decision of whether or not to get an HTC device or a Sammy device. Now granted the GS2 isn't released or announced, but we know its coming. What I am trying to say is that we are running the same race we have before despite the fact that history has shown us the right path twice.
Q4 2009
We have the HTC Hero and the Samsung Moment
Now the Hero is running on a 528mhz processor as old as the G1 itself while the sammy moment is running an 800mhz processor. The Hero has a TFT-LCD display with 65k colors, while the moment has an AMOLED display with 16 million colors.
Reading off this spec sheet, the moment is clearly the winner, BUT, real world testing proved otherwise, and the majority of people here would agree that the Hero was superior to the Moment. All hail HTC right? Maybe not.....
Q2/Q3 2010
The newly released HTC EVO, first 4G phone in the world is pitted against the Sammy Moment's younger and vengeful sibling.
The Evo is running on a 1ghz Snapdragon processor that is unfortunately "old" at this point being built off as 65nm process while the new Epic is touting a 1ghz Hummingbird SOC with a 45nm process. (For the record, i'm no expert but the 45nm > 65nm for battery drain and what not) Coupled with a new and improved SuperAMOLED display, the time has come for sammy to take the cake! Or has it? As real world testing progressed, the evo turned out to be the phone to beat, and the Epic had to be satisfied with filling the qwerty hardware keyboard niche.
But now, we face a new dilemma
Q2-Q? 2011
We have the HTC EVO 3D, a phone built by HTC. Despite past trends, HTC has built this phone with bleeding edge technology including a dual core 1.2ghz processor, 1gb of ram, a 950x540 SLCD display and the latest version of sense. But, the SSG2 (Within for Sprint) has come out with a newly designed SuperAMOLED+ display which uses the good old RBG color pattern along with the latest version of TouchWiz and a new processor built off a cortex A9 design. This battle between superphones has yet to be decided, but if we take a look at history, we see that HTC has tended to beat sammy with outdated hardware.
EDIT: The SSG2 does 1080p recording and the E3D only does 720p (big for some people, didn't want to omit that)
Past this point is bais towards HTC, and non-HTC affiliates/people who might feel inclined to troll should stop
So in conclusion, please don't read the SSG2 spec sheet and jizz all over it because it looks amazing. Trust history and go with the phone maker who has unanimously come out on top. While benchmarks are nice little scores to compare, they are just that, scores to compare. In terms of real world performance, both of the HTC phones provided a better overall experience for me.
Agreed iv loved the 3 HTC phones iv had
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For those not interested in a good read, here is the condensed version
According to the opinion of many fellow Android members,
Hero > Moment
Evo > Epic
E3D ? SSG2
I think: E3D > SSG2
Trust history, not reviews focused on one single "bonus" feature provided by a company.
For those who do want to kill time
Well folks, as most of you have witnessed, we the customers of Sprint have once again found ourselves in a predicament. On one hand, we have the brand new HTC Evo 3d and on the other we have the SSGS2/Photon/non-E3D phone. And as it stands, people have been negatively criticizing the E3D for a multitude of reasons, primarily its 3D effect. As long winded as this introduction is, there is a point to it. For the past couple years now we have faced a decision of whether or not to get an HTC device or a Sammy device. Now granted the GS2 isn't released or announced, but we know its coming. What I am trying to say is that we are running the same race we have before despite the fact that history has shown us the right path twice.
Q4 2009
We have the HTC Hero and the Samsung Moment
Now the Hero is running on a 528mhz processor as old as the G1 itself while the sammy moment is running an 800mhz processor. The Hero has a TFT-LCD display with 65k colors, while the moment has an AMOLED display with 16 million colors.
Reading off this spec sheet, the moment is clearly the winner, BUT, real world testing proved otherwise, and the majority of people here would agree that the Hero was superior to the Moment. All hail HTC right? Maybe not.....
Q2/Q3 2010
The newly released HTC EVO, first 4G phone in the world is pitted against the Sammy Moment's younger and vengeful sibling.
The Evo is running on a 1ghz Snapdragon processor that is unfortunately "old" at this point being built off as 65nm process while the new Epic is touting a 1ghz Hummingbird SOC with a 45nm process. (For the record, i'm no expert but the 45nm > 65nm for battery drain and what not) Coupled with a new and improved SuperAMOLED display, the time has come for sammy to take the cake! Or has it? As real world testing progressed, the evo turned out to be the phone to beat, and the Epic had to be satisfied with filling the qwerty hardware keyboard niche.
But now, we face a new dilemma
Q2-Q? 2011
We have the HTC EVO 3D, a phone built by HTC. Despite past trends, HTC has built this phone with bleeding edge technology including a dual core 1.2ghz processor, 1gb of ram, a 950x540 SLCD display and the latest version of sense. But, the SSG2 (Within for Sprint) has come out with a newly designed SuperAMOLED+ display which uses the good old RBG color pattern along with the latest version of TouchWiz and a new processor built off a cortex A9 design. This battle between superphones has yet to be decided, but if we take a look at history, we see that HTC has tended to beat sammy with outdated hardware.
Past this point is bais towards HTC, and non-HTC affiliates/people who might feel inclined to troll should stop
So in conclusion, please don't read the SSG2 spec sheet and jizz all over it because it looks amazing. Trust history and go with the phone maker who has unanimously come out on top. While benchmarks are nice little scores to compare, they are just that, scores to compare. In terms of real world performance, both of the HTC phones provided a better overall experience for me.
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ahh such a breath of fresh air from all the trolls. . . lol yes and i am trusting HTC history thats why I am picking mine up next week
Well thought out post. I think the Evo 3D will be the phone to beat this summer. I think the GS2's screen, camera, and battery life will be superior. However, I think the Evo 3D will performance-wise be on par, it will get faster official updates from HTC/Sprint (just look at how fast the Evo got official updates to Froyo and Gingerbread), and it will have better dev support.
I too have loved my HTC devices.
Someone had some time on their hands, good write up though.
The point i have been.making all year when.people want to talk about specs, you just put in a nice detailed post. Thanks.
Good to rehash the past. The Hero has been amazing for what little went into it and while I have never owned a Evo, it is still running with the best of them. Can't imagine that the Evo3d will be any different. Top notch specs and a hope of full root. Loving the thought of running CyanogenMod on this thing or a trimmed down Sense 3.0/
i think gingerbread has messed up sprints signal
something i should point out: this is the first year that HTC's main competitor by Sammy drops (or it seems) to drop the keyboard. So its two slate phones duking it out, and also the Galaxy S line built up a name for itself as well
Not trolling or anything, but this year it should be that much more interesting since things balance out better
The Galaxy S 2 is a much sexier phone, and probably even nicer when it comes down to the hardware but for those of us that love AOSP, its a deal breaker on the Sammy.
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something i should point out: this is the first year that HTC's main competitor by Sammy drops (or it seems) to drop the keyboard. So its two slate phones duking it out, and also the Galaxy S line built up a name for itself as well
Not trolling or anything, but this year it should be that much more interesting since things balance out better
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Good point! It would seem hardware keyboards are almost obselete at this point.
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The Galaxy S 2 is a much sexier phone, and probably even nicer when it comes down to the hardware but for those of us that love AOSP, its a deal breaker on the Sammy.
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not quite bro.
Sammy personally sent the CM7 development team a free GS2 for them to work their magic. If anyone gets Cyanogen, its the GS2 (as weird as it is to say it)
but HTC is a sure thing also when the bootloader is unlocked
Another reason I believe the Evo3D will be the phone to beat(and don't kill me here AOSP people): Sense 3.0. Sense, IMO, is the best and most complete UI available for Android...definitely something to keep in mind.
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Another reason I believe the Evo3D will be the phone to beat(and don't kill me here AOSP people): Sense 3.0. Sense, IMO, is the best and most complete UI available for Android...definitely something to keep in mind.
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^^^ this
i dunno why so many people want it gone...
IMHO we should work on making even better and faster while maintaining the beauty that is Sense!!! but thats just me
AOSP while fast as is, is bland
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Another reason I believe the Evo3D will be the phone to beat(and don't kill me here AOSP people): Sense 3.0. Sense, IMO, is the best and most complete UI available for Android...definitely something to keep in mind.
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we all know e3d will have a bootloader unlocked at some point, so will sammy.
wonder about having a bootloader unlocked is e3d owners can pick either to have a sense rom or aosp. With a sammy you have a choice with touchwiz or aosp. Aosp lovers can use either phone but people who prefer a skinned version of android the choice isn't as easy.
I admit I'm an HTC fanboy. I just will not buy a gs2 and half the reason is the fact that Samsung makes it and not HTC. With that said I wouldn't try to talk anyone out of getting one nor if someone asked me my opinion on it I wouldn't bash it. Truth is the phone is a beast. The differences people are arguing are really so small and people are acting like its the difference between a Hero and an Evo.
OMG my phone can open up this game 0.25 seconds faster than yours!!!!!
Seriously unless you did a side by side test does it matter which phone?
Hopefully dual booting will gget figured out soon. CM7 + Sense 3.0 would be awesome.
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I admit I'm an HTC fanboy. I just will not buy a gs2 and half the reason is the fact that Samsung makes it and not HTC. With that said I wouldn't try to talk anyone out of getting one nor if someone asked me my opinion on it I wouldn't bash it. Truth is the phone is a beast. The differences people are arguing are really so small and people are acting like its the difference between a Hero and an Evo.
OMG my phone can open up this game 0.25 seconds faster than yours!!!!!
Seriously unless you did a side by side test does it matter which phone?
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My words exactly
Thank you, OP! Great post! The Moment really sucked some serious ass
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Hopefully dual booting will gget figured out soon. CM7 + Sense 3.0 would be awesome.
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This my friend would be AWESOME!!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...-wireless-and-us-cellular-services-starting-m
Is it wrong that I feel slightly compelled to return my EvoLTE (got a few days left in my 14) and get the SGS3? With a global launch of nearly identical phones (save for CDMA, frequencies, etc, S4 in the US), it is gonna be a hit phone. I really have very few issues with the EvoLTE besides the goofy multitasking button (for which I installed the mod).
I know the screen is technically inferior, but most who have used SGS3 seem to agree our eyes can't tell.
2GB RAM is REALLY compelling, and I think its going to have a kicking dev community, and no locked bootloader.
Please don't write me off as a troll. I'm not a hater, I like the EvoLTE. I'm just going to be stuck with a phone for 2 years, and feel under pressure to make the right choice.
ill keep my htc. i prefer sense over crappy touchwiz or whatever its called
but if you want it so bad you should get it ^_^
I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
There are great devs here too. For me I'm keeping the Evo.
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Crap radios,weird looking (my opinion),poor build quality,touchwiz,GPS issues ,screenes not as good.I never have a problem with a gig of ram. I just think it isn't necessary... yet anyway.it's gonna be a beast for sure, just don't like Samsung...definitely a matter of opinion .I don't think there will be that much of a difference in performance.
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Horrible radios! i was getting half the speeds of what i do now, voice and data. Never going back to Samsuck
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Why is the SGSIII screen worse than the EVO 4g LTE?
As others have said radios are not good however I guess this will be the true test as far as radios seeing how they are using Qualcomm chip with radio built in... And then we will know if its just their crappy programming or something. Lol also the screen is up to you I have a gn basically same screen as sgsiii and its ok however the sgsiii is slightly better I guess cause of spacing?
Touchwiz isn't good imo and its the same look as it has been HTC at least reinvented the wheel this time around to.make it better in some ways. The extra 100 in batt will help some probably due to the screen. However I have seen many people say and or show up over on the LTE side from the og and other places.
2gigs of ram gimmick IMO I know some people say they have reloading issues when they hit home I haveny had that or anything... Not to mention the iPhone beat the sgsiii in a drop test I want to see EVO LTE in a drop test with it lol. So its all up to you keep man. And what you like better and if you want to bite down on a 35$ restock fee or 70$ restock fee if you.get the gsiii and decide you want EVO back lol.
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I'll be sticking with my LTEvo based on looks alone. The SG3 may beat out the LTE by a hair, but not by much if any. Ive been told the US version SG3 will have the same dual-core S4 Snapdragon processor as the LTE and the only thing it has on the LTE is the 2GB ram. Its a nice phone no doubt but the build quality on the LTE is simply amazing. Im happy with my LTE but im sure the SG3 will just as nice! Its great to have two awesome phones to choose from!
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I just read the news on phonearena...and I knew without a doubt I would find a post like this here.
First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
The screen is inferior...and 2gb of ram sounds great. I just don't see how it is really can be considered better.
This is how I see it, and I have owned several brands of phone, no fanboyism here. (Evo-Evo3d-epic 4g touch-iphone 4s-Galaxy nexus).
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
GSIII- possibly more ram, few innovative features (or gimmicky depending on who you are). The GSIII has worse build quality, worse screen, touch wize makes the phone look gingerbreadish, and the support from samsung on sprint has not been the best in the past.
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
Yes the evo 4g lte has weird multitasking...but the aggressive memory managing can be turned off in a custom rom. Plus sense is great, and so is AOSP. You can do either with this phone...but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
Is really debatable which is better. Engadget thinks the one X series is better...while phone arena thought the GSIII series is better.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
After owning an EVO Shift then a Nexus S 4G I am sticking with the EVO. The feel of the phone is better and I believe HTC uses better internal parts. I never had reboots at all on my EVO Shift. I had reboots and screen of death frequently on my Nexus.
I also will never own another phone with a pentile screen, no matter what people say I can't see.
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much. Will it be good/great? Maybe....but it won't top the evo. From what I can tell...most of the great dev community from the Evo 4g is/has moved here. I mean, cm9 is already out....what does that tell you?
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this.
I had the Epic 4G Touch since launch and even though I had no problems with the development, it was SLOW to start. it got root fast (that's to zedomax) but everything else came slowly, AOSP came 3-4 months or so after release, everything else was pretty much dominated by one or two devs/teams. Why? Because CDMA came later and is less popular than GSM, and which is global - the International version is GSM and the conversion of roms from GSM to CDMA is more difficult and time consuming than you would think. Rest assured there will be some devs as there always is with galaxy phones but you can't compare it to the amount there are with the International/GSM galaxy phones.
This phone, and however, blew me away with what we have thus far. Why? Because there isn't a "GSM" version to suck most of the great devs away from our development. it's got the best starting development out of all the Sprint devices I've seen(next to the OG EVO, and of course)
Several of the gimmicky features of the S3 are apks that have been leaked already (posted s voice and floating video player in themes&apps section). that said, I there isn't really anything that makes the S3 unique except the 2 gb ram and the HD pentile screen (debatable)
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First off...the international version of the SIII will have a great dev community, the sprint version....not as much.
The evo has better build quality, feel, screen, UI overlay, and support from HTC...yes support, look at both versions of the epic. Both suffer from slow updates and bugs...
That beings said, I believe the phones will have similar performance levels. If the GSIII has two gigabits of ram, that will be cool, but I doubt the everyday user will see a huge difference, if any.
but you have the options of touchwize (which may be great if you like it) and AOSP on the GSIII.
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Actually, Epic Touch had very good developer support.
The samoled hd screen is indeed inferior.
Samsung phones definitely have better build quality, but they are made of plastic, so it's a wash.
Epic Touch had good support from Samsung.
Touchwiz is actually a much better skin than Sense. Especially sense 4, which is a bloatware and a resource hog. One thing you can expect from GS3 for Sprint is that it's going to have stellar software, where everything is hardware accelerated to the max and buttery smooth and fast.
I'm probably gonna keep the evo cause I hate the look of the gs3, but I'm also hoping that we can steal some of their software.
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Really!? Have you even seen the ET4G forum!? it is probably the most dev'd device around and will only move on to the SGS3 the EVOLTE is a great phone but as of rt now Samsung is making much better and stable product then HTC, aside from the camera options the Evo is just barely catching up to the Touch(imho)
Think about it the Hero came out and was the best phone ever made then just before the EVO( the reason we have anything like we have now) and all the heros started crapping out then now come the EVOLTE and all the Evo4G are crapping out now Im not big on conspiracy but look at the pattern.
Again these are only my opinions and observations
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I doubt people are going to move from the ET4G, which is less than a year old, to the GS3. I am sure some of themore hard core crowd will but most people are under a contract or are quite happy with their phone. The reason a lot of people are moving to the new EVO is because they were on contract with the OG EVO or are using their last yearly upgrade from the 3D.
The Dev's alone will keep me from keeping my EVO. They made me like my 3D even when I had buyers remorse over the S2. They almost made me not have to buy this phone, thanks to the ONE s Rom. I'm also liking what I'm seeing so far, even though the phone has only been out for a week.
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Screen : research pentile , you'll see people viewing it under a microscope with some criticisms. Shrug.
Development community.. With sprints phone being more or less identical to verizons, I think it'll be at least as good. But for me, I just want a stable cm9, which really only takes a couple good devs. And both phones will have that, so I'll concede a wash.
Gps and radios, good points. Certainly one of the reasons I chose htc after my og epic. But maybe just maybe they got it figured out?
When picking a phone for 2 years, specs are key for me. Think about your computer: twice the ram is significant. Particularly considering the multitasking issues I too have experienced on this phone. Almost no apps truly save their state when you go away from them for a few min. And we'll be hoping both android 5 and 6 go on these generation phones (via Cyanogen probably) so more ram may be significant at that time.
Didn't have any issues with my epic build quality, came to appreciate the plastic even.
Also- isn't the gpu better, or will it be the same as evo in the us models?
Argh
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I just want to get this straight when we say build quality is good on Sammy we are referring to the phone withstanding a drop decently yes? Cause internal build quality radios n what not are less then amazing.
and the sgsiii is not as sturdy as the sgsii if anyone saw the vids of the two dropping compared to ip4s
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Yes, that epic touch was built like a tank.
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One more thing. Will Samsung ever make a phone that has a working GPS? I'm still waiting for my girlfriend's GS2 find a "GPS signal"
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hey everyone, I currently have the EVO 4g LTE, and really like it. although, I'm wondering if I should switch to the galaxy s3. do you guys think that its worth the switch?
Oh please no. Threads like these cause chaos
Here's the bottom line though and this applies to everyone:
You will never have the "best" phone out there because there will always be something better. And not only to that point, but different phones have different strengths and weaknesses. I recommend you try the S3, either go to the store or if a friend of yours has it swap phones with him or her for a couple of days. Don't make the decision based on what's the "best" phone but rather what is the best phone for yourself.
Considering the fact that you really like your Evo, there's no need (in my opinion) to jump onto a new device.
On a personal note, I dislike Samsung phones (although their monitors are AWESOME) so while I do like the hardware components of it, it would not invoke a switch for me. Not to mention the LTE is a brand new phone anyway and I'm not planning on spending full retail for any phones in the near future
Either way, whatever you decide, I hope it works out for you. In the future though, don't post these threads in a forum which is dedicated to either phone. You will get answers results because people that have the phone have it for a reason
Points you'll here from people who wouldn't give it a thought:
1. Higher Pixel Density Screen Thats Visible In Sunlight (3 sub pixels for every pixel compared to the samsungs 2 sub pixel pentil display)
2. Current App Market Has No Use For 2GB of RAM (I can open 20 apps on my phone and it wont lag)
3. Higher Aperture Camera And Better Camera Software Plus A Camera Button
4. Beats Audio, Sense Widgets, and HTC's better radios.
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hey everyone, I currently have the EVO 4g LTE, and really like it. although, I'm wondering if I should switch to the galaxy s3. do you guys think that its worth the switch?
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Follow-up question: Which is better - Mac or PC?
You will obviously always be able to find somebody to tell you what you want to hear. If one device was perfect, there wouldn't be any other devices.
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im in the same boat as you OP and i've been thinking about it for the past couple days and, no doubt, for the next coming days until launch. but until it touches down you have to decide what you would rather have in a phone:
screen (realistic + vibrant vs oversaturation + deeper blacks)
UI --> sense vs twiz OR stock vs custom roms
kickstand + camera button vs not
form factor vs case (if youre going to put it in a case then form factor hardly matters anymore)
non\removable battery (keep in mind, replacing an nfc battery will prob cost more than usual)
the biggest thing to consider, i would think, is the user interface. for a stock experience, the s3 has more goodies, but if youre going to rip stock off whichever phone you get then next to consider is the screen, which i would determine by going to a sprint store and comparing the displays btwn the lte and the nexus, which is pretty fricken hard, but good luck
something to keep in mind: thinking about jumping ship to another phone can be seem more tempting bc you've already passed the "honeymoon" phase by already having the lte, dont let the shiney newness of the s3 make you to make the wrong decision - compare the facts, when you think you've decided, compare them again.
The only thing better is the ram. A different launcher pretty much eliminates what people think of when they see the word touchwiz or sense.
The evo feels way better to hold. i had a nexus s and while it did feel ok it was very plastic. The gs3 will be the same.
Pretty much the use of the phone will be the same. They will both have their hitches every so often which is an Android issue. It really comes down to personal preference.
What opinions do you think you will get in the evo forum.
Hmmmm ok. I'm only thinking that I should make the change since I've been with HTC for 3 years. I'm wondering if its time for a change
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I think it honestly boils down to better screen vs. 2 gigs of RAM. Take your pick.
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Hmmmm ok. I'm only thinking that I should make the change since I've been with HTC for 3 years. I'm wondering if its time for a change
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Might be, I did just the opposite. My entire android experience besides a brief time with a hero has been with Samsung. I decided to switch without looking back and couldn't be happier I did. These high end gadgets will always have their pluses and minuses but in the end either way the experience is much better once you commit and start enjoying what you have and not comparing anymore.
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I know people say the extra ram won't matter But let me remind you all that the htc sensation had 768 (or close) to it ram and the gs2 had 1 gig the htc evo 3d also had 1 gig and the phones with 1 gig didn't suffer from the lag the sensation had from lower ram, they were much smoother . My old pc had half a gig of ram in it an it ran like **** slow very slow. My friend put another half a gig stick in the computer and when it booted up i couldnt believe it that much faster. Point I'm trying to make I's there not putting a extra 1gig of ram in the phone for nothing ,there's gonna be a difference but I'll let it playout when the gs3 release . I'll keep my told you card in my back pocket till then lol. Still keeping my evo unless Samsung pull off a greater phone i pre ordered the gs3 with intentions to sell it on Ebay .
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Cry Havoc said:
I think it honestly boils down to better screen vs. 2 gigs of RAM. Take your pick.
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I agree. The Pentile screen is a deal breaker for me, but boy am I jealous of the 2 gigs of RAM. While others may not see the benefits of it, I sure would.
Choosing between high end devices is simply an evaluation of your needs vs the feature set, not which is the best per se.
Maybe one day all of us can have our specific needs and wants addressed and have the perfect phone..... for us.
(I've also heard there's a big difference in the quality of the radios which also swung me towards the EVO)
The pentile screen on the sgs3 isn't the noticible... A friend of mine got the global version of the sgs3 and you can even tell the difference between sgs3 screen to the EVO 4g LTE screen... Very minor differences.
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I would honestly say that the difference between the two phones will be pretty slim. Question becomes what you need the phone to do when you are in your normal routine. Luckily I live 10 blocks from my place of employment in a mid-major metropolitan area (nearly 300,000 people) and I am on Wifi most of the time. Unfortunately Sprint will not be rolling out 4g here anytime soon. If I didn't have Wifi as much as I do I would have switched to Verizon a long time ago. Was promised Wi-Max with the OG and never got close to getting it within 150 miles. I would think that the Evo would have a more dedicated development community from my experience with the OG but I could be wrong.
My question is more based towards rooting, and development.
The EVO 4G LTE does not have a removable battery, thus a battery pull cannot be done in the event of a boot loop.
The Sammy GS3 on the other hand does have a removable battery.
What are some thoughts on this?
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My question is more based towards rooting, and development.
The EVO 4G LTE does not have a removable battery, thus a battery pull cannot be done in the event of a boot loop.
The Sammy GS3 on the other hand does have a removable battery.
What are some thoughts on this?
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Holding the power button for 20 seconds or so does the same thing. It interrupts the circuit as if you pulled the battery.
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AllI know is a tablet like the transformer prime has 1gb ram and no one complains. The only reason people complain is because there is now a device with more, even if it doesn't matter. I doubt there is even one app in the market that can make use of more ram other than a ram benchmark.
Very legitimate question, OP. Normally this would be very easy to shrug off as flame-bait, but what we need to keep in mind is the overlap between these two devices. Because of the LTEVO's delay, its return window comes extremely close to the GS3's launch, so we're in a very unique (and beneficial) situation. Many of us are able to test both phones before making our final decision. I had my LTEVO for almost 2 weeks before returning it to Wirefly. Don't get me wrong, for the most part, I LOVED the phone, but I would have REALLY been bummed if for whatever reason the Galaxy S III ends up being a much better phone. If we're able to test both, why not wait? Wait a few weeks is a much easier pill to swallow than waiting a few months (thank you LTEVO delay).
I think it's really gonna depend on sense vs touch wiz vs custom roms and mods. I loved all the custom roms and mods that came with the original EVO. I had the S2 but my favorite developers stayed with HTC. Samsung phones are awesome, but it needs more developers.
Forgot to add that I had the S2 2x before and after LOS. Now the signal sucks and its a new kernel update every 3 days. Had a lot of software issues, but great phone.
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Points you'll here from people who wouldn't give it a thought:
1. Higher Pixel Density Screen Thats Visible In Sunlight (3 sub pixels for every pixel compared to the samsungs 2 sub pixel pentil display)
2. Current App Market Has No Use For 2GB of RAM (I can open 20 apps on my phone and it wont lag)
3. Higher Aperture Camera And Better Camera Software Plus A Camera Button
4. Beats Audio, Sense Widgets, and HTC's better radios.
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Don't forget to add that you have to shell out $40 for the new proprietary MHL cable that only samsung sells.
unknown_owner said:
Don't forget to add that you have to shell out $40 for the new proprietary MHL cable that only samsung sells.
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Yea Samsung is taking a page out of apple's book there..it seems to me.that although they are still android that Samsung is breaking away from whole team Android..IMOa proprietary mhlis ridiculous..what's next the charging port
firmbiz94 said:
Yea Samsung is taking a page out of apple's book there..it seems to me.that although they are still android that Samsung is breaking away from whole team Android..IMOa proprietary mhlis ridiculous..what's next the charging port
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Proprietary cables piss me off. I'm still mad that things went from mini-usb to micro-usb. I have had so many problems with micro-usb cables and ports. Never had a problem with mini-usb, was nice and solid. I think the micro-usb ports are crap... I too am having a problem deciding between S3 vs EVOLTE. I have the original EVO still. I wish sprint would just get the Galaxy Note/Journal, thats the phone I really want right now...
So.....
Are any of you HOX+ owners tempted by the new HTC One?
I'm thinking about it but the lack 64gb is not helping.
So what about you?
I'm getting it in August when my contract is up and currently selling my HOX+ on eBay for a N4. I would say I'm pretty tempted
Edit: well it will depend on the development for the One. If it is locked down and has AOSP issues like this phone then I'm just gonna get the GS4.
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I'm pretty tempted to get it, but I'm also worried about the lack of dev support for the phone. With it being on multiple carriers, I don't see that being too huge of an issue, but my experience with a limited development phone (One X+) has shown me how much I truly need AOSP every now and then. If I see that it gets a lot of development within the first month release, I just may have to go with it. Plus, the dual front speakers are the perfect gimmick for a guy like me.
treygrizzard26 said:
I'm pretty tempted to get it, but I'm also worried about the lack of dev support for the phone. With it being on multiple carriers, I don't see that being too huge of an issue, but my experience with a limited development phone (One X+) has shown me how much I truly need AOSP every now and then. If I see that it gets a lot of development within the first month release, I just may have to go with it. Plus, the dual front speakers are the perfect gimmick for a guy like me.
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Exactly how I feel. The actual phone is good, but the lack of popularity is depressing for a stock Android fan.
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Exactly how I feel. The actual phone is good, but the lack of popularity is depressing for a stock Android fan.
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Totally agree. I just ordered my N4 and will sell my HOX+. I was thinking for a second to get the One but then I am again dependent on AT&T's updates and the dev community to get stock android. I gave the Hox+ a chance but I must admit I hate Sense. I don't use any of the features except the clock widget. It doesn't even sync the adressbook to my google account automatically. I like HTC's hardware but I don't like Sense and this won't change with Sense 5.
The ONE has better screen resolution, but only a 4 megapix camera, has 2 gigs ram, but only 26gig user memory, same size screen, it has 2300mah vs our 2100, 4.1.2, which we may get, both have a quad core 1.7. Honestly, I wouldn't buy it, based on lack of user storage and the camera. My one x+ is plenty fast enough with only 1gig ram, and the better screen resolution will be hardly noticeable on a 4.7" screen. I also have a sneaking suspicion HTC will be coming out with a ONE+ in the next few months or so. I was once a huge HTC fan, but as of late, it's seems like they're purposely making their phones worse so they can release "better" ones down the road. HTC knock it the FLIP off! If you wish to stand a chance against Samsung take everything that rocks with the one x+, camera, built in storage etc, and everything that rocks about the ONE, screen resolution, sense 5 (?) put it in one bad [email protected]# phone and call it a day for the next year or so. Stop this trying to make it better, by making the first release worse, crap.
Signed loyal consumer since the days of the G1, who may soon be switching to Samsung...
EDIT: specs based on US phone for carrier AT&T
NoobDude said:
The ONE has better screen resolution, but only a 4 megapix camera, has 2 gigs ram, but only 26gig user memory, same size screen, it has 2300mah vs our 2100, 4.1.2, which we may get, both have a quad core 1.7. Honestly, I wouldn't buy it, based on lack of user storage and the camera. My one x+ is plenty fast enough with only 1gig ram, and the better screen resolution will be hardly noticeable on a 4.7" screen. I also have a sneaking suspicion HTC will be coming out with a ONE+ in the next few months or so. I was once a huge HTC fan, but as of late, it's seems like they're purposely making their phones worse so they can release "better" ones down the road. HTC knock it the FLIP off! If you wish to stand a chance against Samsung take everything that rocks with the one x+, camera, built in storage etc, and everything that rocks about the ONE, screen resolution, sense 5 (?) put it in one bad [email protected]# phone and call it a day for the next year or so. Stop this trying to make it better, by making the first release worse, crap.
Signed loyal consumer since the days of the G1, who may soon be switching to Samsung...
EDIT: specs based on US phone for carrier AT&T
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Everything else aside, boiling down the One's camera to simple "4 megapixel" doesn't really do it justice. They did some neat stuff with the camera sensor instead playing the "more pixels = more better" game. Read up on the One's camera, it's actually pretty cool.