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So, I have an Amaze and like it enough. Don't love it, don't hate it. I like it. I want something new though and I am tired of waiting for ICS to drop. I am thinking I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy? Has anyone here used the Galaxy Nexus and went back to the Amaze? Or is something else that will work on 4G with T-Mobile coming out really soon? Carrier branded or not.
I played around with my friend's Window's phone on 7.5 and it worked really nicely. I couldn't find any "high-end" Windows phones that I liked that work on T-Mobile 4G. Maybe I should stay away from those. Thoughts about a WM phone or the Galaxy Nexus?
Thanks for your input.
tedya said:
So, I have an Amaze and like it enough. Don't love it, don't hate it. I like it. I want something new though and I am tired of waiting for ICS to drop. I am thinking I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy? Has anyone here used the Galaxy Nexus and went back to the Amaze? Or is something else that will work on 4G with T-Mobile coming out really soon? Carrier branded or not.
Thanks for your input.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/02/htc-one-s-review/
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edit: yes, you are crazy for wanting a overpriced phone that is already outdated lol
No you're not crazy man, Just don't switch to a new device just because it has a newer Android OS on it
and lol whenever i see the One S I see an Amaze with a new processor and screen
edit: Widows Phones are fun, I have an HTC Radar and can say that was a great phone, but its just too boring for my tastes, and the lack of classic emulators was disturbing, my HTC Inspire with similar specs ran an NES emulator better than the Radar
I was thinking about for a week. And finally made my decision. Keeping my amaze. The galaxy nexus is sexy but the amaze WILL get ics aosp and sense versions EVENTUALLY. Just be patient. I was looking at galaxy nexus on eBay and they're sooo cheap I was so tempted to click "buy it now". But the amaze is simply better except for the screen (which is arguable) and operating system (which we will get eventually) and probably running smoother than the galaxy nexus.
I'm keeping my amaze until around October
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No you're not crazy man, Just don't switch to a new device just because it has a newer Android OS on it
and lol whenever i see the One S I see an Amaze with a new processor and screen
edit: Widows Phones are fun, I have an HTC Radar and can say that was a great phone, but its just too boring for my tastes, and the lack of classic emulators was disturbing, my HTC Inspire with similar specs ran an NES emulator better than the Radar
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much better camera(s), much better processor, much better os, much much better build, thinner, lighter, much better screen.. I could go on lol, its definitely worth the upgrade (if you have the money). also all the accessories HTC is making for the ONE series is worth the upgrade.
If you don't have money to waste id stick with the amaze though since its not a bad device at all really. im probably upgrading to the Nokia Lumia 900 though I miss me some WP7
edit: how does nes run on wp7? is it playable
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fuego77 said:
I was thinking about for a week. And finally made my decision. Keeping my amaze. The galaxy nexus is sexy but the amaze WILL get ics aosp and sense versions EVENTUALLY. Just be patient. I was looking at galaxy nexus on eBay and they're sooo cheap I was so tempted to click "buy it now". But the amaze is simply better except for the screen (which is arguable) and operating system (which we will get eventually) and probably running smoother than the galaxy nexus.
I'm keeping my amaze until around October
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the galaxy nexus looks amazing, the camera is a deal breaker for me though =l
NES runs ok on the Radar, about 3/4 speed with the sound on, it should run the same on any WP7 phone with a 1Ghz processor and 512 RAM
and lol i read that the S4 smokes the tegra 3s so I can give you that, and I don't factor OS revisions when I look at newer phones simply because Android = portable most of the time nor accessories either. I just look at build quality and specs and work from there, for the longest time i saw "1.5 dual core, 1 GB RAM, aluminium build, no AT&T 3.5G bands"
gonna inject a lil bias here: I HATE pentile screens, everything looks like its through a fishnet to me lol, and samsung scared me away from any AMOLED screens thanks to their crazy color saturation
camera: More megapixels are great but how good the image sensor is is what counts, Amaze is better in both regards
Edit: call me crazy but I like a slightly heavier phone, helps give me a sense of how durable a phone is, even if it has nothing to do with durability
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NES runs ok on the Radar, about 3/4 speed with the sound on, it should run the same on any WP7 phone with a 1Ghz processor and 512 RAM
and lol i read that the S4 smokes the tegra 3s so I can give you that, and I don't factor OS revisions when I look at newer phones simply because Android = portable most of the time nor accessories either. I just look at build quality and specs and work from there, for the longest time i saw "1.5 dual core, 1 GB RAM, aluminium build, no AT&T 3.5G bands"
gonna inject a lil bias here: I HATE pentile screens, everything looks like its through a fishnet to me lol, and samsung scared me away from any AMOLED screens thanks to their crazy color saturation
camera: More megapixels are great but how good the image sensor is is what counts, Amaze is better in both regards
Edit: call me crazy but I like a slightly heavier phone, helps give me a sense of how durable a phone is, even if it has nothing to do with durability
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Yeah, the lumia 900 should handle it better. RAM doesn't really matter in WP7. i still would prefer 1gb though
benchmarks don't really mean anything. if the hardware isn't optimized for the software then the benchmarks wont be great. I would pick the one x over the one s anyday I don't like aluminum phones. I like polycarbonate plastic much more and the one x has that. i read somewhere that the one s will come with both though.
yeah pentile is horrible, i had the atrix. but, the pentile on the one S isn't noticeable at the slightness. htc did something, they wouldn't make it have a bad screen considering everyone hates the pentile on moto devices.
the one s, and one x have the same camera. the amaze and one s both have 8mp, but the one s has a MUCH better sensor, and a dedicated image chip.. i don't know what you're talking about lol, the camera flys past the amaze. have you seen the sample shots?
edit: megapixels count definitely, it depends on how you use them though. the way Nokia is on the pureview is great. will be the best camera on the mobile phone market. the one series will probably be in 2nd place and leave the amaze in 3rd
tedya said:
So, I have an Amaze and like it enough. Don't love it, don't hate it. I like it. I want something new though and I am tired of waiting for ICS to drop. I am thinking I want to buy a Galaxy Nexus. Am I crazy? Has anyone here used the Galaxy Nexus and went back to the Amaze? Or is something else that will work on 4G with T-Mobile coming out really soon? Carrier branded or not.
I played around with my friend's Window's phone on 7.5 and it worked really nicely. I couldn't find any "high-end" Windows phones that I liked that work on T-Mobile 4G. Maybe I should stay away from those. Thoughts about a WM phone or the Galaxy Nexus?
Thanks for your input.
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You're not crazy man. Lately I've been thinking about this too.
lol sorry stratax, I was refering to the galaxy nexus with the whole camera comment, I've been really letting my cell phone knowledge slip there after getting the amaze so other than the bare basics I really havent looked into the One series all that heavily, and i thought the one s only had the aluminium shell that was hardened with some sort of high voltage process
and I'm not saying that megapixels aren't all that important, I'm saying there are other factors that contribute to how good a camera sensor is, compare the same photo across all kinds of phones with the same number of megapixels and you'll see a clear difference in the quality is all I'm saying
that nokia phone is rediculous though
Nah your not crazy, I had an amaze with a custom rom but they weren't anything special but a better stock experience. I recently got a galaxy nexus and I love it. HD screen, quality 5MP camera, and ICS plus it has a bigger screen with on screen keys which I like better. Never thought of going back to Amaze, especially with all the roms, mods, & customization but its all depends on your needs
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Nah your not crazy, I had an amaze with a custom rom but they weren't anything special but a better stock experience. I recently got a galaxy nexus and I love it. HD screen, quality 5MP camera, and ICS plus it has a bigger screen with on screen keys which I like better. Never thought of going back to Amaze, especially with all the roms, mods, & customization but its all depends on your needs
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HaHaHa. Is it ever about needs? Nope. For me, at least, it is about getting something new and in some cases, having a phone that not many others in town will have. Before we had 3G/4G on AT&T and TMO, I was buying a new phone every 3 months. Mainly Nokia N series. Remember those bad boys? Buy it, swap out the SIM and go. Now with the different 3G/4G bands on the carriers, it makes it more difficult to just buy a new phone and be happy. This doesn't work, that doesn't work, 2G only, etc. Without fail, the "other" carrier has the phone I want. Then when I switch to get that phone, the "other" carrier I just switched from gets another phone I want. It is never ending and I still to this day have the itch to buy a new phone every couple of months. I swear, I need phone purchasing/carrier switching rehab.
I've had people offer their GNexus for my Amaze and I couldn't justify the trade. The GNexus has a better screen and it's a Google phone and all, but the cons of that phone are too much for me to handle (no microSD slot, terrible camera, etc).
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i've had people offer their gnexus for my amaze and i couldn't justify the trade. The gnexus has a better screen and it's a google phone and all, but the cons of that phone are too much for me to handle (no microsd slot, terrible camera, etc).
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Pulsewave said:
lol sorry stratax, I was refering to the galaxy nexus with the whole camera comment, I've been really letting my cell phone knowledge slip there after getting the amaze so other than the bare basics I really havent looked into the One series all that heavily, and i thought the one s only had the aluminium shell that was hardened with some sort of high voltage process
and I'm not saying that megapixels aren't all that important, I'm saying there are other factors that contribute to how good a camera sensor is, compare the same photo across all kinds of phones with the same number of megapixels and you'll see a clear difference in the quality is all I'm saying
that nokia phone is rediculous though
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oh I was about to say hahah. no, on one CES coverage someone stated that it will come in both polycarbonate and anodized aluminum. still, I would take the IPS SLCD 2 over super amoled pentile ANYDAY
yeah, the sensor is one of the most important things if you have a decent number of pixels. if you had a badass sensor with a vga camera it would look a bit funny lol. speaking of which, the galaxy nexus has crap mp count and sensor xD fail flagship device imo
edit: the most I would pay for the galaxy nexus is 300 and that would never happen lol
ive owned both the amaze and htc evo 4g lte
i notice no difference in picture quality. they both take great pictures
Owned both the Galaxy Nexus & the Amaze. They are both nice phones. However, the Amaze is just a great phone. I do have my complaints such as the battery and the fact that I am on my 4th Amaze (2 would not charge/overheating problem straight out of box, 3rd lost).
The Amaze has got to be one of the most underrated phones I know about.
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I have both the Amaze and the Nexus. Unless Samsung changes how they manufacture their phones, I will never buy another Samsung phone again.
I had my Nexus for about a month when It started exhibiting the famous charging issue. I sent it in for warranty repair (ha), and got it back three weeks later with a note that it had suffered water damage, and therefore my warranty was void. Considering the fact that the phone was never wet, this had to be a bogus claim. I tried correcting this to no avail - it's obvious that Samsung doesn't stand behind their products.
I was able to pick up an Amaze for $69 through Target, and I'm glad I'm back with HTC. The build of the phone is so much better than either the Nexus or the GS II that I have owned, and the camera is the best camera I've seen in a smartphone.
The only negative I have regarding the Amaze is Sense - I would love a stable vanilla ROM that has everything working....
But I digress - I would not recommend going from the Amaze to the Nexus to anyone.
I'm really leaning towards the AT&T Galaxy Note but I am somewhat swayed by the HTC One X. Leaning more towards the Note because of the development and SD card. I just love Samsung phones and have had bad experiences with HTC phones. But the one thing keeping me from the Galaxy Note is the horrible S3 processor. Its to bad we didn't get the Qualcomm S4 chip like the ONE X got.
HTC One X Pros:
-Great Design
-Awesome screen
-S4 Chip
Cons:
-Locked Bootloader (kind of a newbie at rooting but have been successful flashing roms with the i777, and skyrocket)
-16GB internal and THAT'S IT
-Horrible at multitasking (pretty much a deal breaker)
-Many report defects with the phone: screen issues, loose buttons, dust in screen
G-NOTE Pros:
Development support (Tons of ICS roms)
Very easy to root and flash rom
Love the form factor
Spacious
SD-Card
Cons:
Processor, while faster than the Exynos chip, its still out performed
Think I answered my own question, but would love to hear some thoughts on those who have been using the Note now for a couple months. I HATE LAG and read the Note suffers from this, but I plan on flashing Saurom.
Let me attempt to help you out.
I had the onx x first and exchanged it for about 5 times for defects. Good luck getting a perfect one.
screen is better quality on one x. But the note is almost as good with bigger size.
I'm done with the one x. Happy with the note since switch.
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You pretty much said it yourself the not e is totally the way too go. I considered going to the X when it first came out but with all the little problems it seems to have and me loving everything about my Note i see no reason to get it.
I guess I've had two devices without lag or I just don't know what lag is. I guess that click an icon to and it takes half a second on occasion to do that action is lag but I'm just not that impatient.
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If you were even considering the One X why not wait for the S3? It is very comparable in size to the X. The only real difference I see is a little bit of real estate and a pen.
I am seriously looking at the S3 as a backup phone to my Note. I can't see it replacing the Note though.
This is like comparing apples to oranges...
Unless you are buying international, the one x will not be quad. Since you mentioned att I'm assuming you want an att phone, might be wrong here.
IMO note wins, love it.
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The GNote is a great phone, which has been remarkably bug free for the most part. I am also going to pick up a SGSIII after launch. I just sold my skyrocket to make room for the SGSIII. I never even considered the HOX.
I like to switch out periodically.
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With an ICS ROM there is no lag on the Note that I can tell. You would be sorry real quick with the limited storage and locked bootloader. The Note's processor has never been an issue to me. While not as "good" as the Exynos, still a quality chip with LTE support. Note is a great phone. I've owned it since day one.
I have an upgrade available and I was thinking about getting the HOX ---
but I think Im gonna wait for the S3 or the next iPhone. The HOX and its lack of features (removeable battery, expandable storage, unlocked bootloader) makes me think its going to be another Atrix. All the balls but noone to play with it. (Although the Atrix has come a long way since it was released).
If you want, get the Note first. When the gs3 comes, get that and sell the Note. I am really spoiled by the Huge screen....I dont think I will switch anytime soon. Unless 「Note 2」
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
You come on a note forum as ask which one we'd get? Lol.
The One-X has to many shortcomings which far overshadow the few good things about the device. I wouldn't even consider the device.
The S3 seems not special enough. My next device will probably be a note 2
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If I have to use this god forsaken iPhone another day I'm gonna EXPLODE!!!
If i were you i'd get the Htc one x, and share your experience with htc with us. I had it with htc, good design but lots of hardware issues. I had the titan, issue gallore.
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I think the fact you can buy two spare batteries for the note for 15$ is a pretty good argument haha
add to the fact that you can have 48+ gb's on the note
I don't see what good a camera with zero shutter lag is if your going to fill up the 9 gb's the user has available in absolutely no time.
After upgrading to ICS, I've experienced no lags or hiccups with the S3 processor
The Note is better than the One X, but i dont think it is better the SGSIII so the SGS3 will have to give me my new phone Fix till the Note2 drops.........Cant wait on both of these devices.
I purchased the One X the day it came out, upgrading from a galaxy s2. Had to take first one back because of a broken speaker. Kept the "good" one for a week then took it back and was going to wait for the sgs3... then out of the corner of my eye I caught a glimmer of sunlight shining off the Galaxy note.
I said meh and figured I'd keep it a couple weeks and wait for the 3. Surprised to say that I cancelled my pre-order on the sgs3 yesterday (had the phone about a week now).
Love the note, the development community is great and diverse (even coming from the vastly populated sgs2 community), and the accessory / upgrade options that the note has well established.
One X multi tasking finished it off for me, sense took way too much memory, battery life hurt, screen was great but I'm spoiled by the perfect contrast of the amoled since the sgs2 (I am in darker environments most often and the inverted screens are unbeatable on amoled). Locked boot loader will eventually be cracked but I don't want to support a company (at&t or htc) doing that anyways, so it made the decision that much easier.
I'm a big benchmarker myself, so seeing some of the scores on the note felt like a punch in the gut at first. But after loading cm9 and tweaking a bit I've got mine running great with no noticeable lag at all, which is less than I can say for my sgs2 on cm9 and especially the HOX (even without sense).
Go grab the hox play with it for a bit, you get 30 days return with at&t. But know that the processor isn't something you're going to hold and look at daily (like the feel of the phone, or the bad ass screen- both of which the note wins out on IMO) :beer:
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I hadn't even seen this thread until after I exchanged for an AT&T Note, but I got the AT&T HTC One X two weeks ago.
My summary of it was: ICS and the Hardware are nice, but coming from the SGS4G, I liked having an external sdcard.
Since the HOX bootloaders are locked and s-on, not really much rom development yet. I'm sure there will be awesome roms when they unlock.
So with that, I figured I'd keep my phone stock + root for a while and wait for unlocked bootloaders. But the software on the HOX is kinda flaky. I lost my job a few weeks ago and need phone calls from recruiters. The other day I got 5 emails stating that they tried calling me but no answer. That won't work for me.
So, Now I have a note
Processor isnt EVERYTHING!
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
I swap phones all the time. I am always curious about what is new.
That being said I am a huge fan of the note, but snagged a one x at launch.
Within the first hour, or the honeymoon phase, I was in love. The one x is well built, and is a snappy phone. However, with natural and practical use - the phone loses its luster with the multi tasking. While it may not seem like a big deal - imagine an app, or a web page re loading fresh at every view.
Also, imagine a phone with no sd slot, leaving you with no greater than 8gb storage for media once all of your apps were installed. The point of owning a smart phone is a one stop shop of a device - one that you can browse the web, listen to music, make calls, use apps etc. the point of a smartphone, for me at least is to NOT carry multiple devices for life's activies. I don't have an unlimited data plan, so te fact that I couldn't store my music on the phone was a deal breaker, since I use my phone at least 5 days a week for music.
Also, the gps performance was sub par. I can not confirm that this was or was not my particular unit- but if the phone wasn't under the window of my car it would quickly lose gps signal.
Note is one of the best phones I've used. The only downside is that it requires almost constant 2 handed use. Sure you may get away with some one handed action, but not while driving.
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Don't get me wrong - rhe one x feels and looks superb. The display is, although smaller, just as beautiful as the note's. However, after the initial "wow" factor wears off, You begin to feel like the onex was kinda pushed out the gate. It's poor memory management is assumed to be directly related to allocating system resources to making sure sense runs well and good - which it does.
My final point being - of you were to try a device for 30 days, I would test a note. There are some cool things happening almost daily now to keep you interested and also improving an already awesome device. Give htc some time to figure out their situation and figure out if they want REALLY sell their flagship device or not.
When I saw the Note I just feel in love with this device from the bigging and watch story on it on youtube and web and forums about other people posted about the device.
I did look into the HTC ONE X
I was so upset it didn't support SD Card that really turn me down on this device.
don't get me wrong both are wonderful devices and it's up to you what device you would like to have and do research on it before you buy it.
So, after MUCH agonizing (like I'm sure a lot of you have done/are doing), I've decided to go with the Evo 4G LTE over the Galaxy Nexus. Physically, I think the simplicity of the GN design is way sexy (particularly like the slight curve of the phone, helps fit to your face while talking), but the unibody metal of the Evo and the kickstand are way awesome (although I'm not particularly fond of the shiny plastic top third of the back).
In terms of the vanilla ICS vs. Sense 4, what finally helped me make the decision was running CM9 for a little while, then running Virus' Sense 4.0 ROM. I certainly do love AOSP ICS, its quite speedy and responsive, and most of the features & widgets from Sense have some counterpart in the market available. However, coming from the OG Evo, and now the 3D, I've always found myself going back to Sense in the end, no matter how many ROMs I've tried. Plus, this version really is quite light over ICS, and much of the AOSP feel comes through beautifully.
The main downside I'm concerned about is the potential delay with OS updates (even though JB, as I understand it, will be 4.1 and primarily introduce the first iteration of Google Assistant). I was concerned about the locked HTC bootloader vs. the developer friendly GN, but considering the phone hasn't even been officially released to the wild and there's already root access and custom ROMs (although no S-OFF yet), I have faith in the dev community flourishing.
Dunno if this'll give any insight whatsoever into anybody else, but I'm happy to have finally made a choice!
I think whatever phone you prefer in its stock form is the one to go with. I love the gnex and it's quick updates along with easily unlockable appease but hardwire it is behind the EVO LTE. That said I wouldn't buy the EVO LTE because I truly dislike sense. I wouldn't buy either phone myself. But that's just it, that's android, we as consumers can choose to buy the newest phone or just wait for the one that meets our needs! I'd love to HAVE the EVO LTE or gnex right now, however using my upgrade one either one isn't something I'm comfortable with.
So tldr I'm happy for any fellow android user regardless of the phone they have just as they should be with the next man.
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No LTE on Sprint. I think One X is the phone to get.
Truth in that. While I have a MacBook (for music/design) and iPad (for music/general net access & reading), I dont think I could ever get down with an iPhone. Android's greatest strength is its variety and flexibility in being a unique, personalized phone for the end user. Within the capabilities of the hardware we choose, we can make our devices do almost anything. I absolutely AGONIZED over what to get, and was on the verge of holding out and getting nothing, but I want to go ahead and push forward with the Evo LTE. Also helps that I have two other lines on my account that are due for upgrades next June, so I'll have an opportunity to move to whatever new hotness is around then
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No LTE on Sprint. I think One X is the phone to get.
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The Evo LTE is an improved version of the One X though...
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The Evo LTE is an improved version of the One X though...
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QTF!
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I've been struggling with this as well since I found out yesterday that as of today I'm eligible to sign another two year contract. I thought I would have to wait until october but apparently not lol.
I absolutely love the design of the galaxy nexus and stock android kicks ass. I put a fairly stockish rom on my friends nexus and already its faster than my evo. I love the screen too. But its based on last years technology. The evo lte is a great phone and all but the design isn't uniform enough for me. It's like they had a bunch of different ideas and just threw them all together. While its very fast, I don't feel like its worth locking myself in for another two years for it. It's only an incremental upgrade over the 3d imo.
I want to wait for the quad core Qualcomm s4 with the adreno 320 gpu, and I wouldnt mind a 720p super amoled plus display. I would prefer a nexus device as I love stock android. Less bloat, uniform ui design, faster. And if the next one looks anything like the galaxy nexus I'll jump all over it. But who knows when those next gen of phones will come out, and if they will come to sprint in a reasonable amount of time.I hate waiting when I can upgrade now lol
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I think you've made the right choice. Don't concern yourself too much about update IMO. Lots of devs here that I'm sure will have that phone and as far as HTC updating to JB, to me as long as ICS runs great then why bother with JB. By the time JB matures I'm sure there will be other devices out. But I really dont see anything wrong with ICS. So better screen, better camera, newer device, and sense (which you prefer).
For me I'm kinda waiting for GS3 then I'll decide between that and Evo LTE.
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The Evo LTE is an improved version of the One X though...
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it's different not improved.
more SD space on Evo is necessary because of the ****ty upload speeds. on One X with ATT's upload speed I can use my Box (50 GB) or Dropbox (25 GB) accounts to uplad my data and have it saved and shared.
the metal will loose it's color due to chipping, just like on evo 3D. this won't be a problem on One X.
2 things i would miss is the shutter button and kickstand. kickstand can be gained by getting cases that already include them. Shutter button, oh well.....
At least i can enjoy a phone that has reception and quick data speeds.
How long will your data cap hold out doing all the uploading and downloading? Even if you're grandfathered into an unlimited plan they still throttle after so many gb's. Should stick a straight Talk sim in there and get real unlimited for half the price on the same network.
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It's only an incremental upgrade over the 3d imo.
I want to wait for the quad core Qualcomm s4 with the adreno 320 gpu, and I wouldnt mind a 720p super amoled plus display. Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
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I can only say that by your logic any new phone from an existing manufacturer is considered incremental then?
Bigger size, more powerful chips, LTE enabled, higher resolution SLCD HD screen, newest Android OS sounds like a lot more than "incremental".
Or is the Galaxy S3 also just an "incremental" upgrade from the E4GT?
Wouldn't the "next Nexus" you're waiting for just be an incremental upgrade from the current one? All that'll likely change there is the chipset unless JB is released by then.....it'll be similar sized, same resolution, etc....
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I can only say that by your logic any new phone from an existing manufacturer is considered incremental then?
Bigger size, more powerful chips, LTE enabled, higher resolution SLCD HD screen, newest Android OS sounds like a lot more than "incremental".
Or is the Galaxy S3 also just an "incremental" upgrade from the E4GT?
Wouldn't the "next Nexus" you're waiting for just be an incremental upgrade from the current one? All that'll likely change there is the chipset unless JB is released by then.....it'll be similar sized, same resolution, etc....
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No. For example the Galaxy S III, I would be all over that if the american version came with the quad core exynos and LTE. But it doesn't. That processor is beast, and already surpasses the qualcomm S4. And I'd love it even more if it came in the same package as the Galaxy Nexus.
As far as the Evo LTE, yes it's faster, has a better screen, and is LTE enabled. But I won't have LTE until the end of this year in my market, and I already had the latest Android OS, ICS. I think Sense 4 is over rated tbh, and yes I have tried it out. Plus the looks don't sit quite right with me. One thing I love about the Nexus is that it's just so sleek and simple, and that makes it sexy. The front is completely blacked out to the point that you can't really tell where the screen ends and where the rest of the face begins. The Evo LTE has like 5 different designs going on. Brushed aluminum sides, matte black bottom backing, glossy black top backing, anodized red aluminum stripe for the kick stand, and cheap plastic for the power/volume buttons (which I have learned to HATE on my old Evo 4G and my 3D). It's like the designers couldn't decide what to go with and just said hey **** it we'll put all of them together!
And it's not like my Evo 3D is slow right now. It's still chewing through everything I throw at it (thank you mikey for MeanROM).
I just can't get myself to lock into another 2 year contract knowing that the next gen of technology is right around the corner (IE, Q3/Q4 of this year). Specifically talking about the quad core qualcomm S4 with the adreno 320 GPU. That will offer a HUGE increase in performance over what I have now and that, I will have no problem signing a contract for. Especially if it's in a Nexus phone that offers pure android. Also it would be nice if it supported Sprint's 800 mhz LTE that they will roll out in 2013/2014.
hey everyone, I currently have the EVO 4g LTE, and really like it. although, I'm wondering if I should switch to the galaxy s3. do you guys think that its worth the switch?
Oh please no. Threads like these cause chaos
Here's the bottom line though and this applies to everyone:
You will never have the "best" phone out there because there will always be something better. And not only to that point, but different phones have different strengths and weaknesses. I recommend you try the S3, either go to the store or if a friend of yours has it swap phones with him or her for a couple of days. Don't make the decision based on what's the "best" phone but rather what is the best phone for yourself.
Considering the fact that you really like your Evo, there's no need (in my opinion) to jump onto a new device.
On a personal note, I dislike Samsung phones (although their monitors are AWESOME) so while I do like the hardware components of it, it would not invoke a switch for me. Not to mention the LTE is a brand new phone anyway and I'm not planning on spending full retail for any phones in the near future
Either way, whatever you decide, I hope it works out for you. In the future though, don't post these threads in a forum which is dedicated to either phone. You will get answers results because people that have the phone have it for a reason
Points you'll here from people who wouldn't give it a thought:
1. Higher Pixel Density Screen Thats Visible In Sunlight (3 sub pixels for every pixel compared to the samsungs 2 sub pixel pentil display)
2. Current App Market Has No Use For 2GB of RAM (I can open 20 apps on my phone and it wont lag)
3. Higher Aperture Camera And Better Camera Software Plus A Camera Button
4. Beats Audio, Sense Widgets, and HTC's better radios.
MARIO SHARK said:
hey everyone, I currently have the EVO 4g LTE, and really like it. although, I'm wondering if I should switch to the galaxy s3. do you guys think that its worth the switch?
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Follow-up question: Which is better - Mac or PC?
You will obviously always be able to find somebody to tell you what you want to hear. If one device was perfect, there wouldn't be any other devices.
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im in the same boat as you OP and i've been thinking about it for the past couple days and, no doubt, for the next coming days until launch. but until it touches down you have to decide what you would rather have in a phone:
screen (realistic + vibrant vs oversaturation + deeper blacks)
UI --> sense vs twiz OR stock vs custom roms
kickstand + camera button vs not
form factor vs case (if youre going to put it in a case then form factor hardly matters anymore)
non\removable battery (keep in mind, replacing an nfc battery will prob cost more than usual)
the biggest thing to consider, i would think, is the user interface. for a stock experience, the s3 has more goodies, but if youre going to rip stock off whichever phone you get then next to consider is the screen, which i would determine by going to a sprint store and comparing the displays btwn the lte and the nexus, which is pretty fricken hard, but good luck
something to keep in mind: thinking about jumping ship to another phone can be seem more tempting bc you've already passed the "honeymoon" phase by already having the lte, dont let the shiney newness of the s3 make you to make the wrong decision - compare the facts, when you think you've decided, compare them again.
The only thing better is the ram. A different launcher pretty much eliminates what people think of when they see the word touchwiz or sense.
The evo feels way better to hold. i had a nexus s and while it did feel ok it was very plastic. The gs3 will be the same.
Pretty much the use of the phone will be the same. They will both have their hitches every so often which is an Android issue. It really comes down to personal preference.
What opinions do you think you will get in the evo forum.
Hmmmm ok. I'm only thinking that I should make the change since I've been with HTC for 3 years. I'm wondering if its time for a change
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I think it honestly boils down to better screen vs. 2 gigs of RAM. Take your pick.
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Hmmmm ok. I'm only thinking that I should make the change since I've been with HTC for 3 years. I'm wondering if its time for a change
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Might be, I did just the opposite. My entire android experience besides a brief time with a hero has been with Samsung. I decided to switch without looking back and couldn't be happier I did. These high end gadgets will always have their pluses and minuses but in the end either way the experience is much better once you commit and start enjoying what you have and not comparing anymore.
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I know people say the extra ram won't matter But let me remind you all that the htc sensation had 768 (or close) to it ram and the gs2 had 1 gig the htc evo 3d also had 1 gig and the phones with 1 gig didn't suffer from the lag the sensation had from lower ram, they were much smoother . My old pc had half a gig of ram in it an it ran like **** slow very slow. My friend put another half a gig stick in the computer and when it booted up i couldnt believe it that much faster. Point I'm trying to make I's there not putting a extra 1gig of ram in the phone for nothing ,there's gonna be a difference but I'll let it playout when the gs3 release . I'll keep my told you card in my back pocket till then lol. Still keeping my evo unless Samsung pull off a greater phone i pre ordered the gs3 with intentions to sell it on Ebay .
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I think it honestly boils down to better screen vs. 2 gigs of RAM. Take your pick.
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I agree. The Pentile screen is a deal breaker for me, but boy am I jealous of the 2 gigs of RAM. While others may not see the benefits of it, I sure would.
Choosing between high end devices is simply an evaluation of your needs vs the feature set, not which is the best per se.
Maybe one day all of us can have our specific needs and wants addressed and have the perfect phone..... for us.
(I've also heard there's a big difference in the quality of the radios which also swung me towards the EVO)
The pentile screen on the sgs3 isn't the noticible... A friend of mine got the global version of the sgs3 and you can even tell the difference between sgs3 screen to the EVO 4g LTE screen... Very minor differences.
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I would honestly say that the difference between the two phones will be pretty slim. Question becomes what you need the phone to do when you are in your normal routine. Luckily I live 10 blocks from my place of employment in a mid-major metropolitan area (nearly 300,000 people) and I am on Wifi most of the time. Unfortunately Sprint will not be rolling out 4g here anytime soon. If I didn't have Wifi as much as I do I would have switched to Verizon a long time ago. Was promised Wi-Max with the OG and never got close to getting it within 150 miles. I would think that the Evo would have a more dedicated development community from my experience with the OG but I could be wrong.
My question is more based towards rooting, and development.
The EVO 4G LTE does not have a removable battery, thus a battery pull cannot be done in the event of a boot loop.
The Sammy GS3 on the other hand does have a removable battery.
What are some thoughts on this?
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My question is more based towards rooting, and development.
The EVO 4G LTE does not have a removable battery, thus a battery pull cannot be done in the event of a boot loop.
The Sammy GS3 on the other hand does have a removable battery.
What are some thoughts on this?
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Holding the power button for 20 seconds or so does the same thing. It interrupts the circuit as if you pulled the battery.
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AllI know is a tablet like the transformer prime has 1gb ram and no one complains. The only reason people complain is because there is now a device with more, even if it doesn't matter. I doubt there is even one app in the market that can make use of more ram other than a ram benchmark.
Very legitimate question, OP. Normally this would be very easy to shrug off as flame-bait, but what we need to keep in mind is the overlap between these two devices. Because of the LTEVO's delay, its return window comes extremely close to the GS3's launch, so we're in a very unique (and beneficial) situation. Many of us are able to test both phones before making our final decision. I had my LTEVO for almost 2 weeks before returning it to Wirefly. Don't get me wrong, for the most part, I LOVED the phone, but I would have REALLY been bummed if for whatever reason the Galaxy S III ends up being a much better phone. If we're able to test both, why not wait? Wait a few weeks is a much easier pill to swallow than waiting a few months (thank you LTEVO delay).
I think it's really gonna depend on sense vs touch wiz vs custom roms and mods. I loved all the custom roms and mods that came with the original EVO. I had the S2 but my favorite developers stayed with HTC. Samsung phones are awesome, but it needs more developers.
Forgot to add that I had the S2 2x before and after LOS. Now the signal sucks and its a new kernel update every 3 days. Had a lot of software issues, but great phone.
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Points you'll here from people who wouldn't give it a thought:
1. Higher Pixel Density Screen Thats Visible In Sunlight (3 sub pixels for every pixel compared to the samsungs 2 sub pixel pentil display)
2. Current App Market Has No Use For 2GB of RAM (I can open 20 apps on my phone and it wont lag)
3. Higher Aperture Camera And Better Camera Software Plus A Camera Button
4. Beats Audio, Sense Widgets, and HTC's better radios.
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Don't forget to add that you have to shell out $40 for the new proprietary MHL cable that only samsung sells.
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Don't forget to add that you have to shell out $40 for the new proprietary MHL cable that only samsung sells.
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Yea Samsung is taking a page out of apple's book there..it seems to me.that although they are still android that Samsung is breaking away from whole team Android..IMOa proprietary mhlis ridiculous..what's next the charging port
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Yea Samsung is taking a page out of apple's book there..it seems to me.that although they are still android that Samsung is breaking away from whole team Android..IMOa proprietary mhlis ridiculous..what's next the charging port
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Proprietary cables piss me off. I'm still mad that things went from mini-usb to micro-usb. I have had so many problems with micro-usb cables and ports. Never had a problem with mini-usb, was nice and solid. I think the micro-usb ports are crap... I too am having a problem deciding between S3 vs EVOLTE. I have the original EVO still. I wish sprint would just get the Galaxy Note/Journal, thats the phone I really want right now...
I'm facing the (first world) problem that every indecisive bastard like me dreads: which is more important, hardware or software? Currently, I own two android phones. 1) GSM Galaxy Nexus and 2) AT&T HTC One X.
I got both this summer, because I occasionally get an itch for a new phone and, for the first time, I had the financial ability to get one (or two...). So, I did. First I got the Nexus, then I got the One X. I really feel like I ought to sell one, but I can't for the life of me decide which.
It's software (Nexus) versus hardware (One X).
Software
The Nexus I've had unlocked/rooted since a week or two after I got it and I've been running assorted roms. I've finally settled on CM10 for now (though the latest nightly is less stable than the one I was running previously) and Jelly Bean + Cyanogen is a great combination. It's fast and feature-filled with good battery and few problems to really speak of. Stock Android is also very nice, and the prospect of receiving the latest OS update in the near future is appealing. Having a phone without carrier bloat is quite nice.
My One X came with the dreaded 2.20 firmware which, so far, is unrootable. I begrudgingly give AT&T credit for not only convincing HTC to cripple their device, but for patching up any exploits that the devs have considered using to gain root (so far). The HOX's stock setup is pretty good. Sense isn't bad and, though it's running ICS still, it holds up okay against a Jelly Bean, AOSP ROM. There are hints of stutter from time to time that are, IMO considering the hardware running it, borderline unacceptable. It's not unusable by any means, but with few exceptions, stock One X with ICS and Sense is simply not as nice as a Jelly Bean custom ROM. The battery life could be better, to be honest. Wifi is a battery drain much more so on the HOX than on the GNex. I use wifi in my apartment and at work (sometimes; the wifi at work is terrible). It's lazy of me, but I prefer to just leave wifi on all the time and not piss around with toggles every time I walk to the other end of a building. The biggest drawback, probably, is multitasking. I really like the "recent app" button (or whatever it's called) because multitasking is one of the best things about android. I'm impatient, so multitaking keeps me from waiting around Multitasking on the One X's stock firmware is a joke. If I open a page in the browser (which I love) and then check/reply to a text message, returning to the page I was looking at in the browser begins by reloading the page in question. It's bad. Apparently AOSP ROMs fix this problem. I wouldn't know, since I can't root
Hardware
The One X is a beast in terms of hardware. Processor and GPU handle whatever I throw at them, for the most part. The camera kicks ass and I really like the pictures that it produces. Burst mode is awesome and very useful. The sound is good also. I haven't tried "Beats Audio" yet, but I don't really care one way or another about it. My favorite part is the screen. Oh gawd, DAT SCREEN. It's awesomely bright and easy to read in the sunlight, not to mention that it's crisp and seems to almost "float" on top of the glass. Honestly it feels like I'm reading a magazine it's so clear. I love the size also. The One X also has LTE which is nice even though it isn't available in my area yet and probably won't be for a while.
The Nexus has decent hardware. I haven't hit any memorable bumps with the processor or GPU and, in fact, I usually find my processor underclocked. The camera isn't anything to write home about, though I've taken some good pictures with it here and there. I think CM10 added burst mode to the camera, but I haven't tried it yet. The sound is a little quiet for me, but it's usable. The screen looks decent enough, I guess. My eyesight is pretty good so unfortunately the PenTile nature of the screen stands out unless I'm holding the phone at, say, arm's length (and really, who holds their phone that far away for normal usage?). I can live with PenTile but the screen isn't very bright, even at full brightness. My screen protector is tempered glass, and I think it makes the screen more reflective than it should be; so I'm going to reserve judgement on how well I can see the screen outside until I have a chance to replace my screen protector. It's objectively less bright than the One X, however. I like the on-screen buttons, but they take up enough of the 4.65" screen that it's really more like using a 4.3" screen. No LTE here.
Conclusion
So it's a tough call for me. Ideally I could experiment with CM10 or other ROMs on my HOX, but that option isn't available right now. And don't take this the wrong way, but development seems somewhat slow for the HOX compared to other high-end phones. I'm sure the devs are doing a great job, but I wouldn't really know. From what I've read in development threads, there are a lot of wakelocks which lead to poor(er) battery life for the HOX when using AOSP-based ROMs. This doesn't happen on the Nexus (for me at least), probably because of the nature of the phone itself plus the number of devs working on it.
So that sums up my dilemma, if you can call it that. I can't decide what I want to do. I'm slightly leaning toward selling the HOX because I'll probably get more money for it. Then I can dump that money into whatever catches my eye next. But it's hard, because I really do like it a lot. If I could take the screen and camera from the HOX and throw it on my Nexus, I'd be set. But I can't, so that's out the window.
Maybe someone else can help me think of things that I haven't considered? What would you do in this situation?
Sell both and get a new phone that is rootable and has good hardware. New Motorola phones or s 3 perhaps
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Sell both and get a new phone that is rootable and has good hardware. New Motorola phones or s 3 perhaps
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I've considered this as well. The issue is a) which do I sell first, since they're the only two phones I have and b) will I get enough from selling the two to purchase a new phone off-contract? I can throw a little cash on top of what I get from selling them if absolutely necessary, but my period of having extra money to play with is all but over for a little while. Think the next Nexus will be a decent price in the Play Store like the GNex was? Not expecting another $350 gem of course, but less than the usual $600-$700 for a new, off-contract phone?
I payed 150 euro for my HTC explorer fairly good phone running cm 10 only has a 600 MHz processor tho. Those prices seem ridiculous.
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