In my system monitor app it shows two cores but the second one is greyed out and says its 100% idle the whole time. Does the os not use both cores? Or is the app possibly wrong?
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motherpuncher22 said:
In my system monitor app it shows two cores but the second one is greyed out and says its 100% idle the whole time. Does the os not use both cores? Or is the app possibly wrong?
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It means it's not being used. The second core is used as more of an 'overflow' core.
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Oh OK.. so do you think dual core isn't really necessary? Do any apps benefit from it yet?
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motherpuncher22 said:
Oh OK.. so do you think dual core isn't really necessary? Do any apps benefit from it yet?
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They will when ICS comes
It uses both cores natively, unlike GB
Well that sounds nice... This bad boy would probably fly then!
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Oh OK.. so do you think dual core isn't really necessary? Do any apps benefit from it yet?
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Dual core isn't "necessary" but yeah you will see pretty nice gains when both cores are used on the OS level. Also when more appps/programs are coded for multithreading we will enjoy the extra core. I mean alot of windows 7 phones are still single core and there's like no lag that I've heard about, same applies for iOS. Yes I know each OS has it perks and cons, but with this level of hardware on Android devices we shouldn't have any transitional/UI lag. Hoping that ICS will address this issue finally.
System Tuner Shows Both Cores Working Together.
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System Tuner Shows Both Cores Working Together.
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Hmm. I don't think GB is designed truly for dual core, not sure if it fully utilizes the extra core.
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Hmm. I don't think GB is designed truly for dual core, not sure if it fully utilizes the extra core.
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that was my understanding. Gingerbread wasn't written to run on two cores, just the one. Hence the reason why until we get ICS, the Nexus will be a "faster" phone as it will actually utilize both cores.
we just need Mango (Windows Mobile 7.5) then we kick it into TURBO speed!... w00t
hahahahhaha
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My understanding of this is that Android at the system level (ie, the underlying linux) is SMP capable and active. Distinct apps will run on each core as the OS sees fit.
What isn't dual core about android is the application layer. A given app cannot multi-thread and use two cores. That comes with Honeycomb +
TL;DR - You get some benefit from Dual Core now - you will get more later.
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I have a Korean SGSII, and I looked up the system information by Quadrant and it says 'cores: 1'.
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Isn't it supposed to show 2?
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You mean quadrant standard information? Yeah, mine is two..
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Huh...it says ARM V7 Processor rev 1(V7I)...with only one core.
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minho422 said:
Huh...it says ARM V7 Processor rev 1(V7I)...with only one core.
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One here as well, it doesn't really matter though as it still uses both. Probably just setcpu detecting the information incorrectly.
Try using quadrant standard.. I only get 1 core in quadrant advanced and 2 cores in quadrant standard..
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At the.time you check it only uses 1cpu.
Your governor is probably set to: ondemand.
So if you do a lot of things fast, and it neeeds another cpu to keep up with you, that's when the second cpu kicks in.
When you can simulate that and open app fast, you will see it detects two cpu's. I had same issue intil I started switching between tabs really fast and checked back; two instead of one.
Try it.
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.. and 2 cores in quadrant standard..
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Standard got ads. Advanced doesn't.
This is also why you see 1 in advanced, and 2 in standard. For the standard version it needs more cpu-power to do everything the app asks for; permissions, ads etc. advanced doesnt have this so thats why you see one. (less actions, less cpu-power needed.)
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Quadrant doesn't truly support 2 cores, therefore it sometimes shows 1, other times 2.
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Quadrant doesn't truly support 2 cores, therefore it sometimes shows 1, other times 2.
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I don't mean to be rude. But I was trying to point that out with my story!
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Standard got ads. Advanced doesn't.
This is also why you see 1 in advanced, and 2 in standard. For the standard version it needs more cpu-power to do everything the app asks for; permissions, ads etc. advanced doesnt have this so thats why you see one. (less actions, less cpu-power needed.)
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I disabled the add in quadrant standard so i think it's not the culprit..
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On my desktop is a deodex batch optimize zipaligned rooted and debloated very clean Rom for everybody and to make a good base.
Question is....what is the best OC/UV app that's used by anybody and everybody?
Asking because i want to know which to add in the build that pleases the majority.
Thanks for taking the time to voice your opinion.
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I think most people are useing set CPU. I prefur voltage control but the kernel that's been OCed isn't set up to UV apperently, from what I was told.
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
I've been using SetCPU with no issues so that's my vote
I like CPU master alot its really clean and easy to use. Plus is a free app on market .
And thank you for starting some Rom building!!!
I assume its gonna work with Tegrak eventually or is that only samsung CPUs?
Per Da_G's suggestion, I'm using System Tuner. Looks pretty cool and gives more info/control than SetCPU.
FWIW
I like using SystemTuner.
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Thanks...looks like system tuner wins right now.
Maybe the next 24 hours will make a sent.
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^^^
I don't think most of these guys recognize your name.
Welcome to the Note doc!
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Welcome to the GNote forum doc. I've used Collective roms, especially yours, since back in the day. I'm looking forward to seeing the goodness that you creat for this amazing device.
Try Romtoolbox it haves cpu control and lot more things..
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I don't think most of these guys recognize your name.
Welcome to the Note doc!
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Hey.
You gotz a note too?
Already started themeing.
She is putty.
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Hey.
You gotz a note too?
Already started themeing.
She is putty.
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I recognize awesome when I see it.
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yep
nino313 said:
I've been using SetCPU with no issues so that's my vote
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set cpu rocks!!!!
ierv69 said:
Try Romtoolbox it haves cpu control and lot more things..
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I second that! Rom ToolBox is the best app for OCing plus its one of the best android apps period. Has root browser, kernel tweaks and so much more.
I've been using quadrant, but I've heard others claim this is worthless. What are you using and why?
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Real world experience....It's the best of them all...never lies
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Real world experience....It's the best of them all...never lies
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+1. Benchmarks are virtually worthless compared to actual user experiences.
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+1. Benchmarks are virtually worthless compared to actual user experiences.
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Hmmm. I don't go buy a pc without researching the benchmarks. I might be using an amd chip had I not looked at the benchmarks of the Intel chips in comparison. I don't suspect our phones and the chips we have in them are any different. There has to be certain tests that prove a chip's performance. There's always a game or function that can push a chip to it's limits, and some of us want to know what those limits are.
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I was about to say that score is pretty bad... but then I noticed you aren't on a GNote.
Benchmarking serves a purpose, surely. But real world experience trumps sheer numbers (within reason). For instance, S4 versus Tegra 3. Both excel at certain benchmarks, but in reality, both are great.
Where benchmarking is f'in retarded is when someone *****es that they scored a 6200 and joe schmoe scored a 6250...and they are pissed.
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the apps are easily fooled, i can build you a Rom that will show "over 9000!!!!" On benches, but run like total and complete garbage.
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the apps are easily fooled, i can build you a Rom that will show "over 9000!!!!" On benches, but run like total and complete garbage.
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Ahh, but that's why we need a benchmark program that's not fooled by the rom. Pc's have them. Aren't our phones merely small pc's?
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I know....a benchmark program built into the recovery mode software, so you could test the chip outside of the rom. That is a good idea. That way the test won't be skewed by widgets and background processes. Although I do like to know how much improvement comes from my overclocking.
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I was just wondering how come in the system panel app it says the phone only has 3 processors? What does it mean?
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:facepalm: do you not see the processor cores???
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I was just wondering how come in the system panel app it says the phone only has 3 processors? What does it mean?
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It doesn't even have 3 processors, it only has 1!!!
Luckily that one processor has 4 cores!
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:facepalm: do you not see the processor cores???
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I do see it. But the 3rd line says 3. What's the difference from the first and third line?
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I do see it. But the 3rd line says 3. What's the difference from the first and third line?
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Number 3 is the 4th core. Cores go by 0,1,2 and 3. The details in the app are for the 4th core.
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Number 3 is the 4th core. Cores go by 0,1,2 and 3. The details in the app are for the 4th core.
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Oh I see! Now I get it. Thanks!
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Another thing, but shouldn't be ARM A9 not A7??
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Asseel said:
Another thing, but shouldn't be ARM A9 not A7??
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It's an ARMv7 -- which just happens to be an A9.
I know, it's confusing.
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Another thing, but shouldn't be ARM A9 not A7??
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ARM7 is the instruction set, Cortex A9 is the architecture
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It doesn't even have 3 processors, it only has 1!!!
Luckily that one processor has 4 cores!
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Yeahhh, people always got this confusion... luckily u there giving the xplaination. Our GS3 have 1 processor but have 4 cores. Hehehe.. don't get confuse, okeyh?
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Is just me or what?
After I enable GPU rendering, feels everything become little laggy than it is disabled?
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Is just me or what?
After I enable GPU rendering, feels everything become little laggy than it is disabled?
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GPU rendering isn't effective for MOST apps. Also take into account, that the MALI 400MP is a very weak GPU. Also, don't mess about in developer option's if you don't know what they do eh?
No you have it disabled. And for the the other dude saying that the MALI 400 is a weak GPU. You are retarded. It has one point (triangles) where it fails compared to newer GPUs. But it is still one of the top GPUs around.
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No you have it disabled. And for the the other dude saying that the MALI 400 is a weak GPU. You are retarded. It has one point (triangles) where it fails compared to newer GPUs. But it is still one of the top GPUs around.
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it's WEAK for 2013 i never meant it that way, last year it was a good GPU, 2011 was when the s2 was announced and it carried a mali 400mp. That was clocked at about 200mhz or so, all Samsung did was just overclock it to 440mhz. THAT is the ONLY reason that it kept up with some other GPU's on the market.
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it's WEAK for 2013 i never meant it that way, last year it was a good GPU, 2011 was when the s2 was announced and it carried a mali 400mp. That was clocked at about 200mhz or so, all Samsung did was just overclock it to 440mhz. THAT is the ONLY reason that it kept up with some other GPU's on the market.
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It still isn't weak.
I guess Nvdia's (Tegra chipset) GPU is better as they have been working on PC GPU for many years?
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I guess Nvdia's (Tegra chipset) GPU is better as they have been working on PC GPU for many years?
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You should ask Linus Torvalds.
He gave a personal middle finger and a "F*ck you, Nvidia"