Q - any benefit to Google apps over Amazon apps ... ? - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

I've got a handful of Amazon - free app of the Day
But some of the apps I own through Amazon are showing up as " .10 cent apps " in Google's special offer week
Is there any benefit ( like auto updating ) that I should consider grabbing the same app from < G-market > to swap out of the Amazon version. .10 cents is pretty close to free, so the cost isn't an issue.
I know it's the same app, I'm curious if there is any reason why I might want to pick up the Google version like --it may be easier to manage using the Google version - or some other reason I hadn't thought of.
Thanks

I would say there is very little reason to buy an app you already own. If you got it free on Amazon then buying it at Google will help support the developer who probably got nothing for the app you got on Amazon, but buying it for 10 cents might not be that much better.
Also, a dev may update the Android Market app more than the Amazon app, but this is really dependent on the developers process and may sometimes got the other way.
I would check the versions on your apps, if the Android Market has a never version and you are wanting to spend money on it then it might be worth it; However, I think there is also an issue between Android Market and Amazon App Store where your device may get confused and won't install or update, so it may not be worth the trouble.

I heard Google updates are more current, where Amazon is Applesque in that they take more time to "approve".

And also DRM
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delpiero223 said:
And also DRM
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.. what about DRM .. ?
Not seeing your point

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.. what about DRM .. ?
Not seeing your point
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Amazon uses an Amazon specific DRM, and apps with not work if the Amazon App Store is not installed. My understanding is Amazon will sometime limit the number of devices a app can be used on.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/07/amazon-app-stores-drm-to-be-more-restrictive-than-googles/
The Android Market is less restrictive; although I have not tested its limits.
I personally do not and will not use the Amazon store because I don't trust Amazon nor like their approach to Android in general.

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Facebook, Netflix, or Words for friends apps?

Hello,
Just got my Tab on Friday. Are the subject apps available? I cannot find them in the market.
Thanks!
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no on Netflix and the future of it on this tablet is quite grim too.
there's no native Facebook app optimized for tablets just yet (how silly is that), only the phone version which is not available for this device. people tend to like this as a substitute for now:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.locomolabs.facebook
or just use the browser.
i think Words With Friends is not tablet optimized either and thus not available.
mannequin said:
there's no native Facebook app optimized for tablets just yet (how silly is that), only the phone version which is not available for this device.
i think Words With Friends is not tablet optimized either and thus not available.
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There isn't even an iPad app for Facebook yet.
I use WWF on my Tab without issue
I use the Facebook app from my phone. Actually, it automatically downloaded and installed when I first logged into the tablet. It synced all my apps, even the ones that don't show up in a market search.
I read somewhwre, I believe it was the words for friends change log, that they were working on a tablet optimized version. Could be wrong though.
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I use the Facebook app from my phone. Actually, it automatically downloaded and installed when I first logged into the tablet. It synced all my apps, even the ones that don't show up in a market search.
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yeah it does that. not gonna work if you never installed it on the phone though.
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yeah it does that. not gonna work if you never installed it on the phone though.
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Friendcaster isn't free but it works great. FriendMe should have a new version out next week that's more usable. And Facebook iPad is coming out soon... so maybe HC next?
Friendcaster sucks IMO. Only thing it has is the feed. You're better off using the actual website. FriendMe is a little better but its still missing some of the core features.
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Would be nice to play Words with friends on this new tablet i just bought
you guys dont have words with friends???? i have it on my tablet... and i had it on my xoom too i got it from the market
did they remove it or something??
i can post the apk
xtkxhom3r said:
you guys dont have words with friends???? i have it on my tablet... and i had it on my xoom too i got it from the market
did they remove it or something??
i can post the apk
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Yes they did during the last update. They said they are working on a Honeycomb version. The phone version does work, but it cuts off the bottoms of the letters in your tray. You can't tell F's from E's for example. Also when you use a blank tile the letter chooser is not displayed properly.
That said, it does work.
I would assume the new UI will be more like the Ipad's.
Andy
I have WWF on my phone, and it auto downloaded to my tab when I opened the market for the first time.
Suppose I have to wait since this is my first Android anything
You can sideload it: Download it here
Completely legit, use the quick download button. Install Astro before you download it, and use the app installer.
http://www.getjar.com/mobile/48090/...6j608cinkp1p03r4&c=l2guqa0e2bj1jx0713&lang=en
I've got WWF on my tab. Auto downloaded first time. It blows on the tab atm. The bottom bar covers like 20% of the letters. for some you have to drag them up to see what they are. They need a tab version badly.
Here is a great facebook app https://market.android.com/details?id=com.locomolabs.facebook&feature=search_result
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When did the phone version of facebook get changed? I was able to download it from the market when i got my tab last week.
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Just got my to.1 yesterday, I was in love with it until I found out these three apps were not available, looks like I will be returning it in the next few days, =( pretty bummed, I guess I should have researched this prior to purchasing, but they seemed like such basic app's that it never crossed my mind that they wouldn't be available
I have been an android guy for a long time ( had a g1, and now have a g2 ) and this may be what pushes me over to the Ios darkside
just spoke to a Netflix rep. to summarize, he said that they are very aware that tons of people are looking for a Honeycomb app, and that they have offered the major manufacturers (Samsung, HTC, Motorola..) the necessary things to integrate Netflix, and that it's up to the manufacturers to decide if they would like to implement the DRM needed to run Netflix. but since some of these manufacturers, Samsung for example, are planning on a media hub.. the Netflix rep said that Samsung might see it as competition to their own offerings. so we should all contact both Samsung and Netflix to let them know how badly we want Netlifx.
Netflix customer service: 1-866-716-0414
Samsung live chat: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/contact
Samsung customer service for apps: 1-888-899-7609
Netflix app
radiohead14 said:
just spoke to a Netflix rep. to summarize, he said that they are very aware that tons of people are looking for a Honeycomb app, and that they have offered the major manufacturers (Samsung, HTC, Motorola..) the necessary things to integrate Netflix, and that it's up to the manufacturers to decide if they would like to implement the DRM needed to run Netflix. but since some of these manufacturers, Samsung for example, are planning on a media hub.. the Netflix rep said that Samsung might see it as competition to their own offerings. so we should all contact both Samsung and Netflix to let them know how badly we want Netlifx.
Netflix customer service: 1-866-716-0414
Samsung live chat:
Samsung customer service for apps: 1-888-899-7609
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So I just finished chatting with Samsung and this is what they had to say....
Dave: Hi, thanks for reaching out to Samsung tech support. How can I help you today?
Andre: I recently purchased your new galaxy 10.1 and found out that there is no Netflix app compatible with it. why is that?
Dave: Please allow me to go through the inquiry.
Andre: k
Dave: Let me explain.
Dave: Netflix works on Silver lite to stream movies. The Samsung Tab doesn't support this Silver lite. However, Samsung and Microsoft are working to release a upgrade so that Tab will support Silver lite and then you can stream from Netflix.
Andre: how soon can we expect this?
Dave: I'm sorry; this information will be released only after releasing the appropriate upgrade for the Tab and I do not want to provide you with any false information.
Andre: are we talking weeks, months, years?
Andre: this is a big reason i purchased the tablet
Dave: I can understand your concern. I recommend you contact our phone support at 1-800-SAMSUNG (726-7864); they are available 24/7. I'm sure they'll assist you further in this regard.
Andre: k... thanks

Google Market SALE!!!

google market has been rebranded to "google play"
to celebrate this they are having some HUGE offers.
this has been posted in other places but i thought id post it here so no one misses out! check it out! great offers!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/promotion_2012_03_06_AppsFavorites?start=0&num=24
my MUST have apps from this list would be:
World Of Goo
Osmos
Swiftkey X (sadly just phone version)
Quell Reflect
Got some nice deals going, I tried Real Racing 2, which isnt in the sale but they have some trial thing going on atm, but it wont download when i run it, other people seem to be having the same problem, anyone got any ideas why its doing this? a problem with running ics? really wanna try it out :/
I bought most of them. It's like 5$. Nice deal
I still haven't received the update though
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are there any other payment methodes available other then by Creditcard ?
(like paypal)
AshamanMokum said:
are there any other payment methodes available other then by Creditcard ?
(like paypal)
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not that i know of...
Haha SALE means Dirty in french language i know why they complaining about it now!

Omate is a fraud and here is why...

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/2...:+DroidLife+(Droid+Life)&utm_content=Facebook
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Just a company who thought they could add Google play without permission. Google will shoot down their request and people will have to sideload like we do on gg
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...you're on XDA. And you're worried about play store access.
I reiterate...
...you're on XDA? And worried about play store access?
I'll make something that roots the device and sideloads the app store and google services all in one button. Don't worry your pretty little head. If that's the only thing they get wrong, then it's still the best device to date.
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...you're on XDA. And you're worried about play store access.
I reiterate...
...you're on XDA? And worried about play store access?
I'll make something that roots the device and sideloads the app store and google services all in one button. Don't worry your pretty little head. If that's the only thing they get wrong, then it's still the best device to date.
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That's not my point! They lied to the consumer and cannot be trusted as a whole. They have been funded on kickstarter based on a lie, not just a small lie, but a giant fraudulent, refund my $ you bastards sized lie.
Root or no root, they sold it as a Google Play store accessible device. And it isn't!
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That's not my point! They lied to the consumer and cannot be trusted as a whole. They have been funded on kickstarter based on a lie, not just a small lie, but a giant fraudulent, refund my $ you bastards sized lie.
Root or no root, they sold it as a Google Play store accessible device. And it isn't!
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They're still working on it, actually, and my understanding is that no 240x240 screen sized device will be capable of supporting it under android 4.3, so they may have it out when they update to 4.3, pending Google's say-so.
So a device that does not have certification for a version of Android that doesn't even exist yet is a fraud?
As far as it not coming on the Android 4.2.2 version, that was public knowledge back in early September.
Oh BTW
"While all efforts are made to ensure timely completion of software functions, software development too can have unforseeable delays which may result in software functions being delivered in an update after a product has shipped."
On the Omate KS page since Aug 21st 2013
Hell. At least they updated you about it vs threatening folks publicly when ever anybody brought up any real issues.
BAWWWWWWWWWW QQ more. This isn't new knowledge and you're an idiot for thinking a company is a fraud because they hit a hiccup they didn't count on when bringing their product to the US.
This is XDA. You're complaining in the wrong place.
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kevinb77 said:
That's not my point! They lied to the consumer and cannot be trusted as a whole. They have been funded on kickstarter based on a lie, not just a small lie, but a giant fraudulent, refund my $ you bastards sized lie.
Root or no root, they sold it as a Google Play store accessible device. And it isn't!
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Are you serious?!? Name at least one crowdfunding campaign that treated their backers with as much respect, which had as many detailed updates, which had stayed on schedule, which has worked so hard around the globe? They came up front about Play store hiccup and even offered an alternative of another on-line store until they will resolve licensing issue with Google (which btw they are working on actively).
I don't understand everyone defending this "upfront" action they decided to take after a Google exec put the kabash on the Play store on this device last week. But I work for a manufacturer of medical devices and if we advertise something to be in our product it has to be there or we would get our assess sued into bankruptcy. My point was that they should have never advertised the device as a Google Play store capable device if they didn't have all their ducks in a row. Business wise, it's unethical and in other markets even criminal.
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Probably because we aren't assholes.
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Probably because we aren't assholes.
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No need for name calling man. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this situation.
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I wasn't calling you one. I will say none of your posts indicated you were trying to understand this so much as belittling those who don't agree with you.
If you want to discuss it, let's discuss it. Don't patronize people.
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I wasn't calling you one. I will say none of your posts indicated you were trying to understand this so much as belittling those who don't agree with you.
If you want to discuss it, let's discuss it. Don't patronize people.
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I certainly was not trying to belittle anyone in the XDA universe.
But the solution of sideloading the Play Store apk is unsettling to me. I own an OUYA and was an early adopter of one of the first Android tablets, the Viewsonic G-book. I have also been rooting and roming since the DROID 1. While ROMS and sideloading is great, it's just unstable and in some situations becomes a full-time job of keeping up with updates and fixes.
I love messing with my devices as much as anyone else here, but for once I'd like to just buy an Android device that I didn't feel the need to have to change in someway, and spending upwards to $300 on an Android device in 2013 with its fair amount of promises should deliver on them.
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I agree with you completely and feel the same way but we need to draw the line here at calling it fraud.
I'm comfortable enough with side loading that it isn't an issue but the developer model is what is being discussed. November 30th is a long ways away in shipping terms and until they definitively say no I just think it's better not to get up in arms about it. Let them do their thing. Believe me when I say that if they screw this up they will sink.
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I don't understand everyone defending this "upfront" action they decided to take after a Google exec put the kabash on the Play store on this device last week.
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ORLY. AGAIN, the play store (Google Services) issue was a matter of public knowledge for over a month.
kevinb77 said:
My point was that they should have never advertised the device as a Google Play store capable device if they didn't have all their ducks in a row. Business wise, it's unethical and in other markets even criminal.
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Should they have removed the mention of Play Store being included back in early Sept? In my opinion yes. The release that recently came out should have also been done back then as well. "unethical"? Maybe. Criminal? No. The disclaimer that was a the bottom of their KS since day one covers their ass. Period, end of story, thanks for playing.
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I agree with you completely and feel the same way but we need to draw the line here at calling it fraud.
I'm comfortable enough with side loading that it isn't an issue but the developer model is what is being discussed. November 30th is a long ways away in shipping terms and until that definitively say no I just think it's better not to get up in arms about it. Let them do their thing. Believe me when I say that if they screw this up they will sink.
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All the KS units are in the clear. The pre-orders may be another matter.
In my book, the campaign of AI Watch is fraudulent. Regarding Omate, I have a pretty good feeling that even if they would have published this disclaimer while campaign was active - they still would have gotten as much supporters/backers because for a lot of the people not including Google play store is not a show stopper. With a ways around it (sideloading), and alternative store, and active updates about working with Google to resolve this officially, I still say they built a strong community trust.
Btw, with Google planning to release their own smartwatch and probably a pressure from tanking Gear, something tells me there are political reasons for Google to continue delaying their decision. Just my conspiracy theory
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In my book, the campaign of AI Watch is fraudulent.
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At least Omate have admitted that Google Play support won't be there out the box, unlike AI Smartwatch, which is in the same position. They are still giving the impression it comes with Play store.
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...you're on XDA. And you're worried about play store access.
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I think its really funny how people are complaining so much about it. i mean i am disappointed my self as its part of why i've pre ordered the 8gb 1gb omate truesmart but it wasn't the main reason the main reason is because its the best smart watch there is so far. I'm no programmer but I can still install apps etc so it wont be too hard for people to install them, them self's once someone provides us with them to install.
as for no smart watches coming with play store i have the omate prototype on my wrist right now (re-branded as simvalley aw-414.go) and it has play store built into the rom. i know because i factory reset it and it was still there. that being said i hope they make an update for the one I'm wearing right now as it has some terrible bugs on the ui that make it not so good for using some apps show multiple copy's of their icons and you can not remove any of them without uninstalling said apps, after you put so many apps on it some start to vanish and can only be seen if you search for them, it looks like they tried hybrid the app drawer and the home screens as their is no home screens so no widgets or only showing apps you want to see. it also has folders but their useless as you can only put 3 apps in them. it becomes useless if i install a different launcher to fix the other issues. do you think omate firmware would work on it ? because the firmware thats on it says omate_hw2.0_20130923.1 and the model number says omate too.
if someone releases firmware for it that works properly it would be not so bad and very similar to the lower spec omate internals wise? as it seems to be reasonable for its specs if you ignore those software bugs that should have been fixed before release.
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I think its really funny how people are complaining so much about it. i mean i am disappointed my self as its part of why i've pre ordered the 8gb 1gb omate truesmart but it wasn't the main reason the main reason is because its the best smart watch there is so far. I'm no programmer but I can still install apps etc so it wont be too hard for people to install them, them self's once someone provides us with them to install.
as for no smart watches coming with play store i have the omate prototype on my wrist right now (re-branded as simvalley aw-414.go) and it has play store built into the rom. i know because i factory reset it and it was still there. that being said i hope they make an update for the one I'm wearing right now as it has some terrible bugs on the ui that make it not so good for using some apps show multiple copy's of their icons and you can not remove any of them without uninstalling said apps, after you put so many apps on it some start to vanish and can only be seen if you search for them, it looks like they tried hybrid the app drawer and the home screens as their is no home screens so no widgets or only showing apps you want to see. it also has folders but their useless as you can only put 3 apps in them. it becomes useless if i install a different launcher to fix the other issues. do you think omate firmware would work on it ? because the firmware thats on it says omate_hw2.0_20130923.1 and the model number says omate too.
if someone releases firmware for it that works properly it would be not so bad and very similar to the lower spec omate internals wise? as it seems to be reasonable for its specs if you ignore those software bugs that should have been fixed before release.
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I'm sure if it doesn't work right out of the box, we can make you a rom from the Omate that will work quite easily.
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I'm sure if it doesn't work right out of the box, we can make you a rom from the Omate that will work quite easily.
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It does not sadly. I mean its still useable but the issues it does have make it not very good to use so it really needs a rom that works properly.
the rom thats on it is custom build version: OMATE_HW2.0_20130923.115849 and the model number is listed as OMATE.
but yeah I'd be really grateful if someone does make a custom rom for it that works properly and tells me which google play store version to install and were to get the apk etc, I'm also guessing they would need to make a rooting app for it too so it could be flashed tho right?

[APP]Tapatalk (Pro)

I figured I would come here for some sort of guidance about Tapatalk. I'm sure some of you remember way back when Tapatalk was a paid app. I bought it. And now there is a Pro version. Problem is, the app that I paid for is now free. I emailed customer support about it almost 2 weeks ago and still haven't received word back. Anybody else feel this pain or has anybody even been able to reach them about being compensated for it? Guess for now I have to resort to Aptoide to get what I want.
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Nobody yet?
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I might be missing something, but I don't understand the issue.
The app was good enough for you to pay for it when you paid for it, and no features have been removed. The only thing you're upset about is that now other people can get it free? It doesn't sound like you lost anything here. Why would they refund you when you had the app and used it far longer than anyone who is just using the free version now?
The license is lifetime so he has a right to want any refund.
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The license is lifetime so he has a right to want any refund.
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I don't understand.
The license says you can get a refund for this app any time you want, even months after purchasing it?
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I don't understand.
The license says you can get a refund for this app any time you want, even months after purchasing it?
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i think he's upset that it's free now and he paid for services that r now i guess:good:
The issue is that he paid for a fully working product, now that product has been removed from the play store and replaced by a gimped version of another product that he possibly paid for as well. I myself find this extremely wrong from the company to do this. Instead they should have left the two versions as they were and add a new free gimped one, but they wanted the good ratings from the paid one for the free one... Such bad practice
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The issue is that he paid for a fully working product, now that product has been removed from the play store and replaced by a gimped version of another product that he possibly paid for as well. I myself find this extremely wrong from the company to do this. Instead they should have left the two versions as they were and add a new free gimped one, but they wanted the good ratings from the paid one for the free one... Such bad practice
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They didn't remove anything.
They made the pro version free and the HD with tablet enhancements paid.
What features did they remove?
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They didn't remove anything.
They made the pro version free and the HD with tablet enhancements paid.
What features did they remove?
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that shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
The original 2 version has been removed from the play store (can now only be accessed with some link from them) and replaced by a gimped version of the "tapatalk pro" application. I wont go into detail as to what is all gimped, as you can look t hat up yourself, but just so you wont post something like "whats removed again", for instance posting picturesin the "free" version goes only with watermark...
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that shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
The original 2 version has been removed from the play store (can now only be accessed with some link from them) and replaced by a gimped version of the "tapatalk pro" application. I wont go into detail as to what is all gimped, as you can look t hat up yourself, but just so you wont post something like "whats removed again", for instance posting picturesin the "free" version goes only with watermark...
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But the version you paid for (that you installed initially) still posts pictures without a watermark, even though it is not in the Play Store anymore, no?
If not, then I see your point.
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But the version you paid for (that you installed initially) still posts pictures without a watermark, even though it is not in the Play Store anymore, no?
If not, then I see your point.
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Just go to their forums and read all the threads about the mess they did themselves because they were greedy.
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Just go to their forums and read all the threads about the mess they did themselves because they were greedy.
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Looks like I'll have to do that to get the full story.
I'm a little miffed too because I paid for it, but now I have to use their free version with ads, and if I want the ad free version I have to pay again? Thats messed up to me. Make your paid version free and add back the ads, then make a "new" version that you now have to pay for? So basically I can stick with the old version (which I am), but now I don't get any updates or new features. Yes they are greedy, there have been 1 or 2 app devs that ive encountered that have made changes where previous buyers would "lose out" in some way, but they came up with some kind of way for previous buyers to redeem the new or corrected version. These guys did not....I mean didn't they already have a free version? I know they at least allowed individual forums to create their own version they could distribute freely.
+1 I've paid for 2 versions of the app already, they just taking advantage now. I won't be paying for anymore versions. Came here thinking many more would be as annoyed but not so. Tapatalks own forum has some interesting info but little care from the devs. Poor form.
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+1 I've paid for 2 versions of the app already, they just taking advantage now. I won't be paying for anymore versions. Came here thinking many more would be as annoyed but not so. Tapatalks own forum has some interesting info but little care from the devs. Poor form.
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Yep, they even go so far as to locking every thread that touches this problem... Worst company ever.
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Yep, they even go so far as to locking every thread that touches this problem... Worst company ever.
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Yes, they won't even talk about it. Second time this year I've had a developer screw me over changes to a paid app. Then they complain about people not buying it.
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I don't mind buying better apps etc but all they ever do is rebrand the same app with a feature or 2 and then ask for more money. Almost like we're paying to beta test. The arguments about buying a new copy of windows are stupid. But if people must, XP -> Vista -> 7 were significant enough changes to warrant paying for a new product IMO.
I was fooled twice, my fault but won't happen a 3rd time. If they do happen to release something amazing, I'll obtain it from a 3rd party source unfortunately.
Well I don't think you will receive a refund. This isn't even logical enought to debate.
I remain of the view that the old version was much better with the themes, and everything else

Android Pay

Sorry if I breaking forum rules but I can't post on "Android Pay" thread. It says I haven't entered image verification????
Anyway....
Have Some BAD NEWS!!! on this subject guys.
Have been emailing customer services over the last few weeks, to try to resolve the problem that is Android Pay. Had an email back at the beginning of the month saying and I quote
"Hello friend,
We haven't got answers from our technician.They are still working on it.Pls wait for more days.
Best Regards,
Lynn
Team Elephone"
Been on Holiday and haven't had time to chase it up until lately. Not some days, but 3 weeks have passed and 2 software updates. I emailed customer services again for an update as I hadn't heard anything. Again got an email from Lynn and here is her email response
"Hello friend,
Sorry to tellyou that the problem can't be solved so far.
P9000 doesn't support Android Pay.
Best regards,
Lynn
Team Elephone"
No resolution, so its up to you guys now to continue to spread the word for Elephone's customers services and technical support as it's useless to me. I will sell it and get something else that works fully. I bought this device with good will. As it was one of the few devices with NFC around that price range. Stupidly I thought Android Pay would just work!!! Clearly not. Lesson learnt!!!
This is the same response I posted on the Elephone forum BTW
It's not up to Elephone to make it work, it's up to Google.
They need to have a signed, certified, and approved by banks OS to make it work.
So basically Android Pay will only work on Nexus, HTC, Samsung and LG phones. All major manufacturers. It doesn't even work on OnePlus phones, as it runs Cyanogenmod.
Also, your phone has to have a locked bootloader, stock recovery and has to be unrooted for AndroidPay to work.
It's a ridiculous requirement that makes 80% of Android phones not compatible. Read the comments on Google Play, you will see the disappointment.
Google says they will try to negotiate with the banks to require fewer security measurements, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Again. Not Elephone's fault. Not up to them.
Nonsense!!!!! OnePlus 3 comes with Android Pay pre-installed. So an uninformed thing to say. My handset has a locked bootloader, stock recovery and is unrooted. It also works with various banking apps So YES!!! it is down to Elephone to sort the certification out. This is the response I got from Google themselves:-
"Hi , Unfortunately, the Elephone P9000 is running test-keys that were not registered with Android's Compatibility Test Suite. Until the manufacturer resolves this, all users on Elephone P9000 devices will be unable to use Android Pay. Please feel free to contact the manufacturer to ask about their plans for enabling you to get setup.
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empy16 said:
It's not up to Elephone to make it work, it's up to Google.
They need to have a signed, certified, and approved by banks OS to make it work.
So basically Android Pay will only work on Nexus, HTC, Samsung and LG phones. All major manufacturers. It doesn't even work on OnePlus phones, as it runs Cyanogenmod.
Also, your phone has to have a locked bootloader, stock recovery and has to be unrooted for AndroidPay to work.
It's a ridiculous requirement that makes 80% of Android phones not compatible. Read the comments on Google Play, you will see the disappointment.
Google says they will try to negotiate with the banks to require fewer security measurements, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Again. Not Elephone's fault. Not up to them.
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OnePlus 3, maybe. Not the older ones though. I can literally post screenshots of users complaining.
The OnePlus 3 is running OxygenOS. The older ones Cyanogenmod, which, I do not think will be supported. Ever.
Sooo I'm not the one who is uninformed. (A billion exclamation marks)
Lastly, what's the point being on XDA-Developers if you have a locked bootloader?
Google Wallet used to be much more open, all you needed was a device with an NFC.
Now you need to adhere to some ridiculous security measurements...
Elephone is running a modified version of Android. I don't think they will ever get the "test-keys" registered.
You are both ridiculously misinformed on the matter.
Elephone needs to switch from signing their ROM with test-keys to signing it with release-keys. If you want to know the difference between the two then please search.
empy16 said:
OnePlus 3, maybe. Not the older ones though. I can literally post screenshots of users complaining.
The OnePlus 3 is running OxygenOS. The older ones Cyanogenmod, which, I do not think will be supported. Ever.
Sooo I'm not the one who is uninformed. (A billion exclamation marks)
Lastly, what's the point being on XDA-Developers if you have a locked bootloader?
Google Wallet used to be much more open, all you needed was a device with an NFC.
Now you need to adhere to some ridiculous security measurements...
Elephone is running a modified version of Android. I don't think they will ever get the "test-keys" registered.
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Therefore it is down to them. I wish I would have known this before I bought the damned thing. Other than that, not a bad handset for that cash.
I was merely quoting an email I got this morning from Elephone and an email I got from Google a few weeks ago. I was not being informed or misinformed, or trying to be clever or anything. Just letting everyone know what the outcome was. End of story. Thanks!
Wow people here are harsh and not a bit helpful so far!!!
Jonny said:
You are both ridiculously misinformed on the matter.
Elephone needs to switch from signing their ROM with test-keys to signing it with release-keys. If you want to know the difference between the two then please search.
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Jonny said:
You are both ridiculously misinformed on the matter.
Elephone needs to switch from signing their ROM with test-keys to signing it with release-keys. If you want to know the difference between the two then please search.
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Everyone's ridiculously misinformed! Misinformation all around. On the house.
Getting back on topic, are you saying that anyone who makes a ROM and signs it with release-keys instead of test-keys can make a Google-Pay-friendly ROM? That wouldn't make sense? I don't know. This info doesn't just lie around, so apologies if I sound daft.
Cheers
I'm going to jump on the "wish I had Android Pay" bandwagon.
I use contactless payment all the time and have backed the Pagare strap for my Pebble Time Steel watch but that has been delayed until next year, so in the interim it seems I can only use cards. Would like to be able to leave my wallet at home sometimes.
So is the only solution likely to be if Elephone themselves stop signing their roms with test keys, and use release keys instead, and users who are on custom roms go back to using the standard one?
jc-xjr said:
I'm going to jump on the "wish I had Android Pay" bandwagon.
I use contactless payment all the time and have backed the Pagare strap for my Pebble Time Steel watch but that has been delayed until next year, so in the interim it seems I can only use cards. Would like to be able to leave my wallet at home sometimes.
So is the only solution likely to be if Elephone themselves stop signing their roms with test keys, and use release keys instead, and users who are on custom roms go back to using the standard one?
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From what I've seen, yes
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I asked Elephone on their FB page if they knew when Android Pay would be supported on P9000.
Reply:
"Not at this time, still in R&D, will update when we have solid news"
Disappointing
FWIW I have read that it's not possible to get Android Pay working on phones with unlocked bootloader, or Cyanogenmod. Also Chinese phones generally.
As such, not sure how I just managed to set it up on my wife's Oneplus One running CM13. Added card, verified, no error messages.
I thought the OPO had an unlocked bootloader from stock, and it's still running CM13 not Oxygen OS?
If so, why can't we get Android Pay on P9000 in the CM13 ROM that is being developed?
I think it was something to do with the rom signing keys, I wish they would sing the rom with release keys instead.
JakesDen said:
I think it was something to do with the rom signing keys, I wish they would sing the rom with release keys instead.
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That's the first part of it, there are other parts if the CTS that need to pass as well but signing a ROM with test keys is a big deal breaker as it really isn't secure.
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That's the first part of it, there are other parts if the CTS that need to pass as well but signing a ROM with test keys is a big deal breaker as it really isn't secure.
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they should focus on doing that and and relicing the source for stuff so we can port over cyanogen and ubuntu touch.
Slightly OT:
I found a workaround that suits for me to pay with my p9000 in Germany.
Root and XPosed needed, so some MIGHT be out here. I'm using rootcloak and device Faker in combination with the App boon.
OT OFF
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arhornberg said:
Slightly OT:
I found a workaround that suits for me to pay with my p9000 in Germany.
Root and XPosed needed, so some MIGHT be out here. I'm using rootcloak and device Faker in combination with the App boon.
OT OFF
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Can you give a step by step guide?
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I have had Barclays Pay working on my phone for a few weeks now and that has no issues yet!
smartjim25 said:
I have had Barclays Pay working on my phone for a few weeks now and that has no issues yet!
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I've been using it since I got the phone and found out Android Pay doesn't work. The only time I had issues wss when I updated to the latest Elephone OTA update. It completely broke Barclaycard Pay and the only way I could get it working again was a full wipe of the device.
daesimps said:
I've been using it since I got the poo home and found out Android Pay doesn't work. The only time I had issues wss when I updated to the latest Elephone OTA update. It completely broke Barclaycard Pay and the only way I could get it working again was a full wipe of the device.
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You take your poo for walks? Lol that's gotta be typo of the year!
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