So the moto devices put the external SD card under mnt/sdcard-ext as everyone here knows. I'm wondering if there is any method to:
1. Have apps like rhapsody use the external card for downloading music
2. Remap using external for things like Gameloft games data
I am rooted and I've been looking at solutions - alsso know that non stock will allow for changing mount points completely, but not quite there yet.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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cubexg said:
So the moto devices put the external SD card under mnt/sdcard-ext as everyone here knows. I'm wondering if there is any method to:
1. Have apps like rhapsody use the external card for downloading music
2. Remap using external for things like Gameloft games data
I am rooted and I've been looking at solutions - alsso know that non stock will allow for changing mount points completely, but not quite there yet.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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cool. Did some Googling and see what it is. Can you point me in the right direction for the photon? If its someplace here I'll search around for it (just say so and I'll drop it). Its late and this after dealing with my two year old and 12 week old today - a bit out of it.
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Switch the vold.fstab around.
Make sure your permissions are set right
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cool. Did some Googling and see what it is. Can you point me in the right direction for the photon? If its someplace here I'll search around for it (just say so and I'll drop it). Its late and this after dealing with my two year old and 12 week old today - a bit out of it.
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OK. I see what to do to swap. Rather then swapping it, is there a "better" mount point for the external so that programs like rhapsody would use it properly? I assume using a bind command from shell would be enough to get the Gameloft games moved.... right? Or do most people simply swap internal with external?
Thanks.
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I'm curious too, been wondering this for a while but never thought to ask on here.
Is there a step by step guide for doing this or is it going to be too complicated for someone not familiar with coding.? I would love to accomplish this.
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vold.fstab is located in the system/etc folder. You must be rooted to see it. You can change where the mount point is for the external SD card. How to do it is pretty straightforward based on reading the file and Googling. My question is specific to how 'mother's devices deal with the external card and how software like amazon mp3, rhapsody, etc store data to the external SD and how remapping the external SD on the photon would best allow those apps to use the microSD successfully.
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Guess joker wasn't much help huh lol? Someone should write a guide on how to do this instead of whatever the hell joker wrote and said nothing else. Thanks!
Super busy give me a few hours and ill post something
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Guess joker wasn't much help huh lol? Someone should write a guide on how to do this instead of whatever the hell joker wrote and said nothing else. Thanks!
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Well that would be something the app developers would have to do. The vold.fstab trick is to trick everything in to thinking their switched. Not really a permanent solution. Try contacting the app devs and give as much info as possible including mount points
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vold.fstab is located in the system/etc folder. You must be rooted to see it. You can change where the mount point is for the external SD card. How to do it is pretty straightforward based on reading the file and Googling. My question is specific to how 'mother's devices deal with the external card and how software like amazon mp3, rhapsody, etc store data to the external SD and how remapping the external SD on the photon would best allow those apps to use the microSD successfully.
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Super busy give me a few hours and ill post something
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Sweet, can't wait cause I really want this. Thanks for taking the time to do this for us.
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Well that would be something the app developers would have to do. The vold.fstab trick is to trick everything in to thinking their switched. Not really a permanent solution. Try contacting the app devs and give as much info as possible including mount points
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Is there one mount point that is used more often then others?
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Is there one mount point that is used more often then others?
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Apparently Im real tired and I managed to read this kinda aloud... My wife just looked at me and said yes, there is definitely one mount point here that is used more often.
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Apparently Im real tired and I managed to read this kinda aloud... My wife just looked at me and said yes, there is definitely one mount point here that is used more often.
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Lol question is was she actually talking about sdcards lol jk
To get slightly back on topic , I was wondering if someone could spell out exactly how to do aa 'junction' (this would be the windows term for it) where you have an invisible link for the OS to follow from one place to the next. So instead of modifing the root files,instead running an app that manages it or a script at boot that would allow it. Again - on stock firmware if that matters.
Mnt/sdcard/gameloft redirected to mnt/sdcard-ext/gameloft
Make sense?
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Is it possible (perhaps using a ROM) to massively change the partition layout? I want to remove the internal "SD Card' partition and allocate that space to the main partition the device uses, /data or /system i think. I'm not too familiar with the layout of android partitions but I'm familiar with how they work. I'd like to make my (real) SD card mount at /sdcard, a lot of programs store downloads and data to /sdcard by default, and I dont like having it go to the internal memory. I'm not sure why they laid it out this way, instead of just increasing the main partition sizes. I didn't think this should be in the General section, since its a little beyond that scope, but I couldnt find anything relating to this.
Bane listed this info in another thread:
Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 15.9 GB, 15914762240 bytes
~500MB for /system
~3GB for /data
~650MB for /cache
~1.3GB for /osh (webtop)
~350MB for /preinstall
~9GB for /sdcard (internal storage)
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I want to take that 9 GB and give it to /system and /data, maybe bump /osh up a bit too since i want to do some tinkering with that. Does anyone have any ideas on how to go about this? I was going to rm /sdcard and ln -s to /sdcard-ext to make it point to my real card, but wasnt sure if that would break things.....
There was a mod called "Firerat's Partition Mod" for the HTC Hero that was able to edit partitions... we could take a look at it later.
I was going to work on this this weekend, but mainly to remove the webtop partition and reallocate that to /sd because ill never use webtop. Im sure IF I get that working it could be toyed with other ways.
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There was a mod called "Firerat's Partition Mod" for the HTC Hero that was able to edit partitions... we could take a look at it later.
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Is that where i remember you from ... i still have my hero. What ever happened to aosp his rom had killer battery.
Edit n/m looked at his profile he went to the sensation..... but yeah firerats mod worked wonders on the hero and desire
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I was going to work on this this weekend, but mainly to remove the webtop partition and reallocate that to /sd because ill never use webtop. Im sure IF I get that working it could be toyed with other ways.
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Please work on this! I'll never use webtop either so getting all that space will be awesome!
Ill start work on this after the vol/gator game ...a man has to have priorities, especially when ribs, wings and burgers are part of those priorities.
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Ill start work on this after the vol/gator game ...a man has to have priorities, especially when ribs, wings and burgers are part of those priorities.
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lol
Being able to user define the partition remap would make an Ubuntu port a bit nicer too for those looking at expanding the MoPho's functionality.
Would love that 1.3GB webtop to be put to Data
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Ill start work on this after the vol/gator game ...a man has to have priorities, especially when ribs, wings and burgers are part of those priorities.
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I'd be pleased to buy you a gift certificate at your fav wings joint if you can make this work! Would love to be able to use my 32GB card the way it's supposed to be used!
I can tell you I wont have anything tonight and likely not tomorrow . Im studying firerats stuff now and it all seems pretty straight forward. Really more worried about a brick than anything. Lol.
Im going to actually try some stuff tomorrow after I get home from church and praying to not brick .
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I can tell you I wont have anything tonight and likely not tomorrow . Im studying firerats stuff now and it all seems pretty straight forward. Really more worried about a brick than anything. Lol.
Im going to actually try some stuff tomorrow after I get home from church and praying to not brick .
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Make sure you're unlocked and also be sure to study a "df -h" command. That way you'll be able to see what partitions are what and how much space can be taken.
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Make sure you're unlocked and also be sure to study a "df -h" command. That way you'll be able to see what partitions are what and how much space can be taken.
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Yup. Yup. Im getting a little more brave. Im wondering if our current stock image checks to see if webtop is available or checks that partition before it boots and fails to boot if its not there. Im willing to bet it does.
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Anyone look into this yet? Does anyone have any hints about what functions/utilities work on the partitions?
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Anyone look into this yet? Does anyone have any hints about what functions/utilities work on the partitions?
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Its possible to get it working, but my machine is not capable of building with out some effort(only 32 bit) - But the only thing that seems to be difficult is editing the boot.img (which I don't know how to do, but am willing to figure out) to get it to read the new partition layouts.
I've got 64bit win7, and access to a vmware server which i can install a spare copy of x64 linux and give you shell access if it would help..... let me know what i can do to further it along (not a programmer myself but a hard core dabbler
I dont suppose any of the partiton tools (fdisk, etc) can be run through adb?
any news or updates on this project???
yeah we should really continue this project I want squeeze as much memory out of the internal sdcard as possible, I'm guessing we couldn't just take out the partitions all together and let it be read all as one eh? cause then any extra space could be used (though maybe that's not so safe when you get full)
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Yeah, definitely would like to see this happen.
Don't really use webtop myself either.
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Yeah, definitely would like to see this happen.
Don't really use webtop myself either.
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<3 Storage...
I dont know if this has been addressed but i am having problems downloading ROMS and things from xda. Keeps telling me file is unsupported. If there is a fix can someone please point me in the right direction or any info would be much appreciated. Thanks and sgain sorry if this has been answered
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Download astro file manager. After install open application and click file manager. Then hit ur phones menu button and choose preference. Scroll to bottom till u see enable browser download and check it. U can then exit application. Should work now. That's how I fixed issue on my photon.
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Thanks ill give it a shot.
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You aren't using a computer at all to snag ROM's and such?
Hello everyone, first post since joining. I have a 16GB SD CARD which was partitioned for use in my previous phone (HUAWEI ASCEND running CM7.2 which had DT'S A2SD incorporated into the ROM, partition size of 1GB & 32 swap).
My question is this :
As I am still stock & un-rooted,is their any added benefit to leaving the partitioning in place or should I delete the partition. THX!
BTW, I've had the phone for only a week & still getting acclimated w/it, will probably root sometime later, very pleased w/the overall performance @ this point.
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I don't see a reason to keeping it as CM7 for a different device won't work on the Photon. But that's just me. So it's basically a partition of information that is not usable.
I was not near a comp at the moment but wanted to download something for later use. I usually use my laptop. But that method worked so thanks for the help. Medic
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I gotcha Man. Just had to ask.
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I was not near a comp at the moment but wanted to download something for later use. I usually use my laptop. But that method worked so thanks for the help. Medic
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Glad it worked for Ya.
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I'm just wondering, if you swap to use external memory do you have to format it to work with your phone?
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Was wondering the same thing. What about write speeds?
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I did the swap with a ultra 64gb. It works fine. Read the threads about it and FOLLOW the directions.
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I did the swap with a ultra 64gb. It works fine. Read the threads about it and FOLLOW the directions.
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curious if theres a specific link you might have for the swap
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curious if theres a specific link you might have for the swap
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Ditto. Can't say I've read much about it
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Haven't found a good way to swap them, reduced to using the wonderful app Directory Bind to do this, but now I have a hard time remembering what folders have been moved the real SDcard.
With my Motorola phones it was as simple as editing the fold.fstab file, not so much with this phone.
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-n...sd-card-with-rooted-galaxy-note-2-app2sd-mod/
did this on CleanROM and it works.
I didn't like it, so prior to doing it I did a nandroid backup.
I don't like the fact the script has to run every time the phone boots, yes, i know it does this automatically.
Also, i'm a bit confused how backups will work when you use this app, too. I know the system files are still stored on the phone's physical hdd... but i'm wondering what happens when I restore in titanium backup and have two different locations where APKs should be?
There are some other issues in beans thread, i've heard. I'm not sure if ROM related or not, though.
The one thing with Directory Bind is that it has to continue to run too, but its very easy on the RAM and battery, not a big deal.
I have tried that script, but it would never remount my sdcard, so both /mtn/sdcard/ and /mnt/extsdcard/ would show up as the internal memory, thats when I found the Directory Bind.
Directory Bind works wonders, I have /sdcard/Android/ pointing to /mnt/extSdCard/Android/ without issues, along with some others. Its just the programs that don't store their data there that you tend to have issues with.
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The one thing with Directory Bind is that it has to continue to run too, but its very easy on the RAM and battery, not a big deal.
I have tried that script, but it would never remount my sdcard, so both /mtn/sdcard/ and /mnt/extsdcard/ would show up as the internal memory, thats when I found the Directory Bind.
Directory Bind works wonders, I have /sdcard/Android/ pointing to /mnt/extSdCard/Android/ without issues, along with some others. Its just the programs that don't store their data there that you tend to have issues with.
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Except that when we get 4.2 directory bind doesn't work.
Oh ****, thats gunna suck.
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i didn't see any priors threads to this so i am asking is this possible i don't see any options in the app managment section and app2sd card pro didn't work do custom roms have this if so i will be rooting asap. EDIT: Looks like i have found a way around it those of you interested in moving big data to sd card, app does require root but works flawlessly in my experience so far http://market.android.com/search?q=pname:com.slf.ListglApp
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i didn't see any priors threads to this so i am asking is this possible i don't see any options in the app managment section and app2sd card pro didn't work do custom roms have this if so i will be rooting asap
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It is there you may not have searched with the correct terms.
Apps2sd hasn't really worked in a while on a lot of phones. Least that I have owned.
If you flash a custom ROM you can do an SD card swap. So if you had a 32GB mem card it would become your "internal" and your 16GB would become the "external"
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I have been looking for a guide that is successful
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that is so lame how they did this some of these graphic intensive games have up to 2 gigs of sd data that was a really stupid move on samsung or googles part whom ever was resposible for this, i hope developers can find a way around this at one point
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that is so lame how they did this some of these graphic intensive games have up to 2 gigs of sd data that was a really stupid move on samsung or googles part whom ever was resposible for this, i hope developers can find a way around this at one point
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Could be worse...could own a nexus device and not even have the ability to use an external SD card.
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Could be worse...could own a nexus device and not even have the ability to use an external SD card.
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lol i just came from a sprint galaxy nexus but it just almost defeats the purpose of a sd card only for music i suppose lol
Though I haven't tried it yet, there are reports that directory bind works on the note 2 in a similar fashion. I hope this is true because the nand in the phone is much quicker than a card.
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Though I haven't tried it yet, there are reports that directory bind works on the note 2 in a similar fashion. I hope this is true because the nand in the phone is much quicker than a card.
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I can confirm that Directory Bind does work providing you're on a non-4.2 rom. Android 4.2's new multi-user feature causes Directory Bind to not properly mount apps to the external SD card.
Anyway, here's the link if you're interested. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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I can confirm that Directory Bind does work providing you're on a non-4.2 rom. Android 4.2's new multi-user feature causes Directory Bind to not properly mount apps to the external SD card.
Anyway, here's the link if you're interested. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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meaning anthing works so assuming stock jb rooted will work fine this will solve so many problems for me as my internal is already full
And that's what chaps my hid about our devices... In my apple days I hated deleting things to make room ... android could set themselves so far apart from them with expandable storage and they don't use it as they should
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exactly is this a os limitation is this somethjing possibly that some of our devs can work out in the future and do other newer devices have this issue or is it just the note 2?
I finally upgraded to android, i got the cheapest phone possible(kyocera milano) which seems to be a mistake. The phone has only about 300mb internal storage and can barely handle its own updates(because of the limited storage). so i would like to know if its possible to make the phone "think" that some of the sd card is part of its internal memory? I found an adb driver for it(dont ask me where or which one because i had no idea and started messing with one until it worked) i have not tried rooting but can if i need to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
Try the guide below. Of course you will need to root your device but this worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746228
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Try the guide below. Of course you will need to root your device but this worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746228
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Thanks, I will try that later!!
Is it at all possible to make the sd card appear as part of the internal memory? If not i can deal with it but...it would be nice
Thanks!!
Couldn't find a way to do that myself. I'm still looking but if you find it first lemme know.
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Couldn't find a way to do that myself. I'm still looking but if you find it first lemme know.
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If i find anything ill let you know for sure! for now, this works...any suggestions on what apps to remove off a kyocera milano?
I remember seeing a thread some time back on safe apps to remove. Can't remember which one but run a search and you should find it.
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