I know it's a week before Christmas and all, but it just seems (to me at least) that the forum(s) have died. I just hope this isn't' the end for the X2 and that there's still some dev action going on.
I just hope that I didn't bring anyone down, and I do appreciate our devs, and the guys working on 2nd-init.
Don't worry. Devs are hard at work. Although this isn't the most loved phone out there, we are working on it. Keep patient and we'll let you know when there are new things available for public consumption.
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You know, I never got that. Why is this phone passed over so much? It is incredible, convenient and fast as hell...
i hope it doesn't die down ive only had my X2 for 3 weeks and im just starting to enjoy it
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You know, I never got that. Why is this phone passed over so much? It is incredible, convenient and fast as hell...
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This phone mainly gets support from developers who have this phone and want to make it better. Other devs that develop for other phone pass over the Droid X2 because it has a locked bootloader. Which means a lot of the stuff required to run things that other phones can is locked down by the manufacturer. It doesnt give the Droid X2 a lot of options. This is why I appreciate all the devs who try their hardest to get the Droid X2 a little more awesome.
To the original post, it IS the holiday season and developers have families and all as well. They dont work for us. lol. But they haven't left us.
Is it just me or have the irc chats died down as well? Or have they just moved to another channel and I just missed the memo? lol
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mastafunk set up a new channel for it. Can't say if it's been busy in there though as I haven't been around much myself lately. Early Christmas for our family here this weekend since some of the kids are going to their other half's relaticks for Christmas weekend this year. One year there, one year here.
Anyway, if you want to check it out, the new channel is #X2-AOSP.
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mastafunk set up a new channel for it. Can't say if it's been busy in there though as I haven't been around much myself lately. Early Christmas for our family here this weekend since some of the kids are going to their other half's relaticks for Christmas weekend this year. One year there, one year here.
Anyway, if you want to check it out, the new channel is #X2-AOSP.
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Cool, I'll poke my nose in there in a bit to get my nerd on lol.
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Look, I had my week of finals which absolutely killed my development time. But now that it's over, I've started working on the phone again. Yes, there was a LOT of excitement (maybe too much) at first, but don't say that development has died. Masta seems to think so too. I warned people about getting too excited about this right away but looks like it still got out of hand. I have officially started working on CWMR and/or CM7 again and hopefully can make some progress with both of them.
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Look, I had my week of finals which absolutely killed my development time. But now that it's over, I've started working on the phone again. Yes, there was a LOT of excitement (maybe too much) at first, but don't say that development has died. Masta seems to think so too. I warned people about getting too excited about this right away but looks like it still got out of hand. I have officially started working on CWMR and/or CM7 again and hopefully can make some progress with both of them.
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Good luck dragonzkiller
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Look, I had my week of finals which absolutely killed my development time. But now that it's over, I've started working on the phone again. Yes, there was a LOT of excitement (maybe too much) at first, but don't say that development has died. Masta seems to think so too. I warned people about getting too excited about this right away but looks like it still got out of hand. I have officially started working on CWMR and/or CM7 again and hopefully can make some progress with both of them.
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I haven't totally left either... I'm just working more casually atm
I can understand that. dragonz it does seem like everyone got too excited, and I realize it does take a while to get it to work, but I'm glad you guys aren't totally gone and I'm thankful for you guys and I'd love to start working on a rom myself, but I've had the problems of knowing where to start at officially.
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You know, I never got that. Why is this phone passed over so much? It is incredible, convenient and fast as hell...
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well the long delayed bionic came out not long after, which was the next big thing...for a couple months, and now its on to the new razr
I was thinking its odd that we never saw a soak for 2.3.5, so maybe they pitched that and are going straight to 4.0!
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I was thinking its odd that we never saw a soak for 2.3.5, so maybe they pitched that and are going straight to 4.0!
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Now THAT'S funny.
Verizon sat on the 2.3.4 update for 2months "testing" and "quality control"
THEN moto did the soak.
If anything if it WAS scrapped I would see us getting 2.3.7 way before 4.0
And 4.0 is most likely a dream fir us.
They didn't even care how buggy the 2.3.4 update was. And they DEFINITELY knew about it.
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Now THAT'S funny.
Verizon sat on the 2.3.4 update for 2months "testing" and "quality control"
THEN moto did the soak.
If anything if it WAS scrapped I would see us getting 2.3.7 way before 4.0
And 4.0 is most likely a dream fir us.
They didn't even care how buggy the 2.3.4 update was. And they DEFINITELY knew about it.
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Yeah I bet we don't see another official update or maybe one and it'll be a 2.3.5 small update. Then nothing. Due to motor cranking out device after device we might as well have the og droid in their mind. Just my thoughts
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Now THAT'S funny.
Verizon sat on the 2.3.4 update for 2months "testing" and "quality control"
THEN moto did the soak.
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wow, was it really 2 months ash? I was in on both of them, and my memory was thinking that the soak was announced shortly after the leaks were discovered here.
and I know I'm dreamin about the 4.0, just some blue sky thinking there
they are being pushed for 18 months of support though
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wow, was it really 2 months ash? I was in on both of them, and my memory was thinking that the soak was announced shortly after the leaks were discovered here.
and I know I'm dreamin about the 4.0, just some blue sky thinking there
they are being pushed for 18 months of support though
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The sbf leak was FOUND shortly before the soak yes...u r correct there.
BUT(I believe it was mentioned in the beginning of 2.3.4sbf thread) the date attached to the sbf file was from a month or two prior. Meaning that since the sbf WAS the same as the OTA, that the build was finished a month or two BEFORE soak was even announced. Which more than likely means Verizon was "testing"(sitting) on it for a long time.
Lol...and.nothing wrong wit some blue sky dreaming...I still have slight hopes we eventually get an unlocked BL. But I know chances are most likely not lol.
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Look, I had my week of finals which absolutely killed my development time. But now that it's over, I've started working on the phone again. Yes, there was a LOT of excitement (maybe too much) at first, but don't say that development has died. Masta seems to think so too. I warned people about getting too excited about this right away but looks like it still got out of hand. I have officially started working on CWMR and/or CM7 again and hopefully can make some progress with both of them.
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I, also, got too excited... but am thankful that you are still working on our beloved X2. I hope you did well on all of your finals and am pulling for you to succeed with this development.
Happy Holidays!!!
Let's also remember people that developing.. modding ... theming phones is extremely time consuming and what u get when a dev finishes a project is something that makes your device better or more customized.. I am not a developer because my knowledge on a lot of the cpu information is limited at best at this point although im learning a lot on this aspect... I do theme for the droid x2 and I think it is safe to say that I have spent atleast 24 to 48 hours of working time on any of the themes I have made... furthermore when embarking on projects and I can only imagine what this feels like embarking on a project as ambitious as what dragonzkiller and others have contributed to frustration sets in... maybe these guys get this to work.. maybe they don't.. maybe they go ahead and create new roms customized to their... bottom line be grateful u have people that make this phone better
Merry christmas
Rant complete
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I recently acquired both an X and an X2. Have to keep one and sell the other. I just moved from the Incredible, which has awesome development, so I'm a little spoiled.
Seems that the X is a little further along the development cycle (makes sense), but I REALLY like the screen, CPU, and GPU of the X2.
Do I keep the X2 and hope for more development (really wanting CM7 or MIUI), or do I keep the X, which already has some pretty stable ROMs? I worry that many of the Devs are just going to bypass the X2 and move on to a more dev-friendly device or on to the Bionic or something.
Please help me decide which to hold on to!! Incidently, I don't have to sell one off for another week or two, so there is a little more time to see if CM7 can come out for the X2 I guess.
I don't see much happening with the x2 honestly. I'll be selling my x2 once the galaxy s2 arrives unless we get a break in development on this phone.
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I don't see much happening with the x2 honestly. I'll be selling my x2 once the galaxy s2 arrives
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Good im pretty sure the devs hate ungrateful people. There is alot happening on this phone. Only thing we are missing is the bootloader.
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Good im pretty sure the devs hate ungrateful people. There is alot happening on this phone. Only thing we are missing is the bootloader.
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I Hate Ungrateful People, I Am So Happy And Appreciative For Everything Anyone Does ForThis Phone. I Try To Help Out By Either Providing New Information Or Helping Someone Figure Things Out So They Hold Onto The X2. This Device Definitely Needs Support To Sway Developers To Wanna Put Their Time In. Once Again Thank You To Everyone Who Has/Is Working On This To Make It Better For All.
its funny to me everyone keeps talking about switching from a new device to something even newer as if support for that will be any better every device takes time I'm sticking with x2 at least for another 5-6 months.
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Guys, I'm completely new to both the X and the X2. I have no prior experience with either device, nor do I have a bias. I have read enough on all the various forums to see the hatred for one or both phones. Point is, I can only keep one of these bad boys. Like them both. Just hoping someone with more inside knowledge than myself can give me a better indication on future development potential.
From my fresh perspective on both of these phones, it is clear that the X has already had significant development (I love CM7 and MIUI Roms from my Incredible), and it seems like a gamble to hold onto the X2 because it may OR may not get to that point. Does this sound about right?? Again, not hating on either phone or community. This wasn't intended to be an "I'm moving on" thread. It's a "help me choose" thread. Thanks.
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Guys, I'm completely new to both the X and the X2. I have no prior experience with either device, nor do I have a bias. I have read enough on all the various forums to see the hatred for one or both phones. Point is, I can only keep one of these bad boys. Like them both. Just hoping someone with more inside knowledge than myself can give me a better indication on future development potential.
From my fresh perspective on both of these phones, it is clear that the X has already had significant development (I love CM7 and MIUI Roms from my Incredible), and it seems like a gamble to hold onto the X2 because it may OR may not get to that point. Does this sound about right?? Again, not hating on either phone or community. This wasn't intended to be an "I'm moving on" thread. It's a "help me choose" thread. Thanks.
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CM7 And BAMF Are Coming To The X2 "Soon"
It's Gonna Be A Couple More Weeks At LEAST Before We Are To See Either A Beta Or Stable Rom. I Hope That Clarifies What You Want To Know.
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CM7 And BAMF Are Coming To The X2 "Soon"
It's Gonna Be A Couple More Weeks At LEAST Before We Are To See Either A Beta Or Stable Rom. I Hope That Clarifies What You Want To Know.
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It does help some. It seems that one dev working on CM7 is needing some help though, and not getting it. That's what I'm reading into the posts anyway. No disrespect to the dev who's working on it. I just know that these things seem to require multiple devs working on teams. So if you can tell me definitively that CM7 will come, I'm a happy camper.
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It does help some. It seems that one dev working on CM7 is needing some help though, and not getting it. That's what I'm reading into the posts anyway. No disrespect to the dev who's working on it. I just know that these things seem to require multiple devs working on teams. So if you can tell me definitively that CM7 will come, I'm a happy camper.
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One Thing You Really Need To Understand There Is Nothing Definite With Developing. It Can Take Numerous Trial And Errors Before Done Or It May Never Happen At All.
we should all be happy that moto surprisingly did an awesome job with the GB update, it added so much polish that was lacking in previous builds and helped speed up our phones greatly. If you want MIUI so bad, there is a launcher that mimics MIUI ROM This phone has only been popular for like 2 months, that is NOT enough time for any development to happen lol so just get Rooted GB, Freeze Bloat, Supercharge this bad boy and if you want to run the MIUI Launcher and have one of the fastest phones on the market
It's really a no-brainer. The X2 is way above the X in performance. IMHO, it's the best phone that Verizon sells, unless you really must have 4G service. Both phones have the lousy Blur interface, but you can customize them, as you know, with aftermarket launchers and programs. Both phones have locked bootloaders, so not a lot of development.
There has recently been some increased development interest in the X2, however. Gingerbread (2.3.3) is the most recent OS, and there is now a pre-rooted version of Gingerbread readily available. As for ROMs, "Eclipse" is well liked and seems to be extremely well thought out. Most recent edition has done away with most of the Blur interface. More details here.
If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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Well that was rather immature and "toolish" ... just don't post if your feelings are that negative
On another note, I would say to keep the X2. It is a more powerful in all aspects.
X2 is one badass piece of hardware. Period.
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If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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If the clown can find time to reprimand me for being helpful and using another word for excrement, where is he when all this guy posts is Flamebait?
On topic, if you want cm7, stay with the x. If you can wait, keep your x2
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colonel187 said:
If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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Oh come on guys, this was by FAR the most useful reply I got
Seriously though, thanks for the input for those who actually took time to post something meaningful. I know the X2 is a great piece of hardware, but my rooted Incredible running AOSP was actually faster and more responsive than this thing is right now, so I guess I'm suffering from some withdrawl. I'll root, debloat, supercharge, etc and see how it goes. I'll probably hold on to the X2 and hope for the best because I'd hate to be kicking myself a month from now when CM7 and then MIUI get unleashed. Surely those two ROMs running on this hardware will perform better than my Incredible, not to mention better than the original X.
Of course, if development completely halts in a month then I'll probably just beat my head and cry for what might have been, had I kept the original X. Time will tell. I.....must.......be.........patient.............
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Oh come on guys, this was by FAR the most useful reply I got
Seriously though, thanks for the input for those who actually took time to post something meaningful. I know the X2 is a great piece of hardware, but my rooted Incredible running AOSP was actually faster and more responsive than this thing is right now, so I guess I'm suffering from some withdrawl. I'll root, debloat, supercharge, etc and see how it goes. I'll probably hold on to the X2 and hope for the best because I'd hate to be kicking myself a month from now when CM7 and then MIUI get unleashed. Surely those two ROMs running on this hardware will perform better than my Incredible, not to mention better than the original X.
Of course, if development completely halts in a month then I'll probably just beat my head and cry for what might have been, had I kept the original X. Time will tell. I.....must.......be.........patient.............
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I'm stuck with the phone for the next 18 months, so I won't let it die! How many possble character combinations could there be for the unlock code?
WOW, well the people who are complaining and moaning about not seeing much happening are welcome to leave, nitroglycerine is doing great things with what hes got and CM7 will be a gateway, I'd stick with the X2, it's got tons of potential and is definitely a top of the line device but everything that needs to be done won't just happen overnight, I would suggest hanging in there.
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WOW, well the people who are complaining and moaning about not seeing much happening are welcome to leave, nitroglycerine is doing great things with what hes got and CM7 will be a gateway, I'd stick with the X2, it's got tons of potential and is definitely a top of the line device but everything that needs to be done won't just happen overnight, I would suggest hanging in there.
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Agreed. As more development gets done more developers will get onboard, hopefully. And sooner or later, the bootloader will get cracked & then the fun starts. You'd kick yourself for missing that...& don't forget navendrob, thatdudebutch(team bamf ) & dragonzkiller are working on good things for us too.
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I have my MoPho rooted but there are only 2 roms for it. If you go over and look at the Atrix developers forum they have a ton of support.
The phones are similar, why isn't there much rom development for the Photon as there is the Atrix.
Does anyone know if the Cyanogen Mod is going to be made to work for the photon?
before anyone else says it. GO LEARN HOW TO DEVELOP AND MAKE YOUR OWN ROM
just saving everyone the trouble. i dont really mean it lol
We got source last week and the devs disappeared we will have new roms real soon
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easier said than done. About 13yrs ago I was into development with computers and stuff but a LOT has changed since then. I wouldn't know where to start now days.
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easier said than done. About 13yrs ago I was into development with computers and stuff but a LOT has changed since then. I wouldn't know where to start now days.
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here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060199
[email protected] said:
here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060199
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Well that would be useful if I had time to learn everything and create roms myself.
the sgs2 for sprint was announced. this phone was horribly placed in terms of release dates. a lot of people jumped on the evo3d bandwagon, now the sgs2 is coming out soon and not too long after is the release of the new nexus.
once the epic touch is released expect these forums to die down a lot more... unless the et4g sucks... in which we might get a few more users
I heard the et4g kills baby kittens. Does that help?
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the sgs2 for sprint was announced. this phone was horribly placed in terms of release dates. a lot of people jumped on the evo3d bandwagon, now the sgs2 is coming out soon and not too long after is the release of the new nexus.
once the epic touch is released expect these forums to die down a lot more... unless the et4g sucks... in which we might get a few more users
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Shabby are you staying with us or leaving for the sgs2?
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i got my photon on the way, i have no interest in teh sgs2, the next phone i want is teh nexus prime
shabbypenguin said:
i got my photon on the way, i have no interest in teh sgs2, the next phone i want is teh nexus prime
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Do it up son!!
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I just got the Photon and am going to work on porting CyanogenMod to it... so expect that as an option when I finish it. Not sure how difficult it will be since this is my first Moto device.
This is the first phone that I was happy with out of the box. But with development, well at my age, its better than sex! Lol
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This is the first phone that I was happy with out of the box. But with development, well at my age, its better than sex! Lol
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I just got the Photon and am going to work on porting CyanogenMod to it... so expect that as an option when I finish it. Not sure how difficult it will be since this is my first Moto device.
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I'm out of thanks for the day, but you will get one soon enough from me I'm sure. That being said, how hard is 'porting' and what exactly does that mean? I think I get the idea but how is it done really?
I would love to learn how to do this. I am slowly getting into theming a little, but am no where close to releasing anything yet, first off I am a perfectionist and second I am just learning the basics now.
Would love to start reading up on the whole porting aspect of stuff.
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I'm out of thanks for the day, but you will get one soon enough from me I'm sure. That being said, how hard is 'porting' and what exactly does that mean? I think I get the idea but how is it done really?
I would love to learn how to do this. I am slowly getting into theming a little, but am no where close to releasing anything yet, first off I am a perfectionist and second I am just learning the basics now.
Would love to start reading up on the whole porting aspect of stuff.
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Porting is basically making the proper changes for the rom/kernel/theme to be compatible with another device. Just do a Google search and you can find other threads talking about it.
If you don't have any code experience it will be tough going to learn. If you are already trying to learn how to theme than this is good place to start because knowing the directory structure and where things are located will help.
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i got my photon on the way, i have no interest in teh sgs2, the next phone i want is teh nexus prime
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Yeah I do too, but I'm not going back to big red. I think that it's a Verizon exclusive so far.
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no the tech sites need to read between the lines. was there a nexus being shown off around big v's hq? yea.. wanna guess why? because out of the top four carriers in teh us they are the only ones without a nexus device..
there are rumors of verizon getting a droid prime which if thats the case yet again they will be without a nexus device (cant call it something else) my guess is because they want the hardware but their carrier bloat crap on it
The photon is an awsome phone and with tegra 2 thd games it beats my gfs evo shift hands down. I tried the evo3d and wasnt impressed. Its really buggy and likes to get stuck in 3d mode. The sales rep even told me to go with the photon which was cheaper meaning less commissions. She had came from doing repairs to sales and she said the evo3d was a waste of money and told me all the horror stories they were having at the repair center with them.
I know sprint has some phones comimg out soon that are going to be better but work with what we have first.
I found my old htc tilt and it still has more dev than the photon.
Im someone who isnt all about games. I like preformance, battery life and apps to make my day more productive.
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I think a lot of Sprint customers were like me... the MoPho came out, we yawned, and had zero interest in it regardless of specs because it was Motorola... and we all knew Motorola was the essence of pure toxic TiVO-ized evil in AT&T/Verizon-land. They encrypted their bootloaders in ways that couldn't be trivially cracked, and bent over backwards to lock down everything they could.
Then Google bought Motorola, the sun came out, the birds started singing, the sourcecode got released, and suddenly the MoPho became interesting.
Hi. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but what the heck. I've owned an HTC Incredible for almost 24 months and this past Saturday I dropped it glass first onto the concrete. Needless to say, I have an x2 UPS should be dropping off at my house today. I'm looking forward to the larger screen and dual core CPU.
After browsing the developer forums, I am disappointed how little ROM selection there is. I read this is because Motorola locks down their system. I had the choice of an Incredible 2 or this. I chose this, so I hope I won't be disappointed.
About me: I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, so I hope to help test out ROMs as much as possible after I root. Which shouldn't take too long to talk myself into it . I'm more of a lurker than a poster. That's all for now.
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Hi. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but what the heck. I've owned an HTC Incredible for almost 24 months and this past Saturday I dropped it glass first onto the concrete. Needless to say, I have an x2 UPS should be dropping off at my house today. I'm looking forward to the larger screen and dual core CPU.
After browsing the developer forums, I am disappointed how little ROM selection there is. I read this is because Motorola locks down their system. I had the choice of an Incredible 2 or this. I chose this, so I hope I won't be disappointed.
About me: I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, so I hope to help test out ROMs as much as possible after I root. Which shouldn't take too long to talk myself into it . I'm more of a lurker than a poster. That's all for now.
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Welcome. Since you are coming from an HTC phone, you may get a little frustrated with how much you cant do on a Motorola phone. BUT, we do have awesome developers who make awesome ROMs for our phones. I suggest Eclipse or CM7. And I would forget how you used a rooted HTC and learn from scratch with your DX2. For instance, if you have used ROM manager or anything similar, don't use it with your DX2. A lot of people mess up there phones with that. We dont use ClockworkMod Recovery, but an alternative called Bootstrap Recovery. Since our phones are locked down, we have to be tethered to a wall charger to use this. No flashing on the go for us. And ICS is a ways away from getting onto our phones. Just a few things we have to deal with. Its still a nice phone.
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Hi. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but what the heck. I've owned an HTC Incredible for almost 24 months and this past Saturday I dropped it glass first onto the concrete. Needless to say, I have an x2 UPS should be dropping off at my house today. I'm looking forward to the larger screen and dual core CPU.
After browsing the developer forums, I am disappointed how little ROM selection there is. I read this is because Motorola locks down their system. I had the choice of an Incredible 2 or this. I chose this, so I hope I won't be disappointed.
About me: I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, so I hope to help test out ROMs as much as possible after I root. Which shouldn't take too long to talk myself into it . I'm more of a lurker than a poster. That's all for now.
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Though stuff is bleak now and people like me recently moved to other phones like the nexus or dinc2 or resound, still dragonzkiller is working on CM9 and that should immensely help this device. Right now 2 of the best ROMs are CM7 and eclipse, which is a huge complement to eclipse as it is based on blur....
Oh crap, btw pray to god that your phone does NOT have 2.3.5 OTA on it. If so, you cannot root it. Yet.
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With it being more difficult to flash, maybe I'll have a more operable phone lol. On a more serious note, after reading that HTC is releasing ICS for the Incredible 2 I am somewhat disappointed for not choosing it. I'm happy to try a Motorola phone again thought and will enjoy the 0.3" larger screen, my main reason for talking insurance into giving me this phone. Anyways, thanks for the information, it will come in handy on down the road.
Sad to hear there's only 2 main ROMs people use. I'm crossing my fingers for having 2.3.4 .
It probably will have 235 http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-x2-hacks/205470-bummer-full-2-3-5-1-3-418-root-broken.html
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It probably will have 235 http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-x2-hacks/205470-bummer-full-2-3-5-1-3-418-root-broken.html
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That sucks. Damn Motorola.
Welcome to the X2 commnuity
To be brutally honest, I believe the incredible 2 has a much higher satisfaction rate compared to the X2. *cough cough* that's why I was going to get the Inc2 until I saw Rezound at a reasonable price
But as said, there are some developers that make X2 quaint =)
I SWEAR TO GOD if the ota breaks root I'm leaving this crap phone.... omg I'm effn pissed!!! Hopefully there was a mistake somewhere... read the link above guys.. and be ready to scream at someone.
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king..kranium said:
I SWEAR TO GOD if the ota breaks root I'm leaving this crap phone.... omg I'm effn pissed!!! Hopefully there was a mistake somewhere... read the link above guys.. and be ready to scream at someone.
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I thought someone in this thread said it but I guess not. I read someone saying Eclipse is modified to block OTA updates. Thats a relief on my part since thats what I'm using.
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I thought someone in this thread said it but I guess not. I read someone saying Eclipse is modified to block OTA updates. Thats a relief on my part since thats what I'm using.
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As far as I know/remember, all ROMs block OTAs. CM7 does too...
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As far as I know/remember, all ROMs block OTAs. CM7 does too...
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Well thats good news.
Watercycle said:
To be brutally honest, I believe the incredible 2 has a much higher satisfaction rate compared to the X2.
But as said, there are some developers that make X2 quaint =)
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The Incredible 2 didn't even pop in my mind to be honest.
My phone has 2.3.4, let the fun begin . The phone seems pretty quick so far, except when unlocking. Does the snappiness end over time like I've heard?
I've had both, dinc2 is far better.
no offense to dx2 devs though. Dzk, nitro and company are the best.
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I hate to hear that. How were you able to trade up to an Inc2?
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The Incredible 2 didn't even pop in my mind to be honest.
My phone has 2.3.4, let the fun begin . The phone seems pretty quick so far, except when unlocking. Does the snappiness end over time like I've heard?
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Yes. Yes, it does end. Anyway, the good news is you are on 2.3.4 and thereby been spared by the tyranny of Moto, but by just. Your best bet is CM7/Eclipse and soon CM9... Just don't ask for ETAs, else you'll suffer the wrath of the Dragon!
And don't dare update to 2.3.5. In fact, just root that damn thing and install CM7/Eclipse to avoid being nagged by the phone to update, when the damned update does arrive.. Enjoy (I can't say that with a straight face, sigh) your device as much as possible. And I hope I and others didn't rain on your parade too much. Have fun with the X2...
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I hate to hear that. How were you able to trade up to an Inc2?
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Here is how I did it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586153. This other forum was what led up to it.
If you have bloat freezer or titanium back up you can stop the ota update.
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If you ... titanium back up you can stop the ota update.
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That's good news, I can't live without Titanium Backup.
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And I hope I and others didn't rain on your parade too much. Have fun with the X2...
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If by rain on my parade you mean make me regret getting this phone... . I do enjoy the slightly larger screen and resolution so that's trade off enough for me. But if it does end up like the post you linked, dinc2 here I come.
After not even having the phone activated for 24 hours I'm having trouble. It's the infamous sdcard music playback skipping I've read about . This happens intermittently, sometimes few skips sometimes many. Called Asurion, they told me to take the battery out and hold power down for 15 seconds. We'll see how it does at work tomorrow.
Edit: This happens with the phone idol running PowerAMP with music from 128 KBPS all the way to 2580KBPS. It gets worse downloading updates on 3G.
Youll never completely get rid of that, and its not the sdcard it dies it on internal as well, im looking into new samsung phones, done with motorola soon as I find what i want. Without nitro, dkz, and the rest of our gang i would have been gone months ago. But cm7 and eclipse are both amazing compared to what this was out of the box
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If you go into power amp setings and find the buffering option and select the largest one it may help the skipping. I came from the original droidx and i was expecting a better phone but turned out to be worse. I am just glad that we have any devs working on this phone! they have done alot for it.
I honestly think it's the end of X2 development, and I think it has been since CM10 A3 was released. What is your opinion?
Unfortunately, I think you're right. It has gone eerily silent around here just in the last month or two. Maybe people are getting their tax refunds back and upgrading and/or buying a new phone. My advice would be for anyone still on it, as I am, to download every ROM, tweak or mod for it that you can and save it to your computer so if you ever want to switch to another ROM, you'll have it. Pretty much I am resigned to only three ROMs: eclipse 2.3.5, cm7 and cm10. All other ones are way outdated.
Also I used to be able to post or comment, and usually within a few hours, I would get several comments or answers. I posted in the cm10 a3 thread four days ago and no one responded or posted after me.
I hope that second generation x2 owners will revive this thread because I will be on this phone till December.
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I get an upgrade in April but I think I'll stick with the X2 until June or early July.
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I dont think unless a miracle happens and we get an unlocked bootloader and or ICS. As the ROMS get more advanced the harder development is.
i feel like what could be done with this phone has been done. there isnt really much more anyone could do. except maybe a beta cm10 . getting passed up for ics was a death sentance on this phone. i wont lie, if i had hundreds of dollars to throw at a new phone, i would. not all are this lucky though. im right there with you guys until november. until then, atleast we know that we have a few of us still here.
I definitely would port ROMs and fix them up, etc.. but this is my only phone at the moment, and I don't think Verizon would replace it if it all of a sudden became bricked from a bad port. Anyone know what they would do?
I'd say the phone is eol here on xda. Even I've come to a screeching halt on my kexec development. I don't see a future for anything unless I can convince someone I know to throw me a bone and I don't see that happening.
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I gave up on mine and just copped a GS3. Rooted that today. I did keep my MX2 as a backup tho just in case something does pop up to experiment with lol.
no cuz its 2 years old
My upgrade date was a couple of days ago, and I traded in my X2 for a Razr Maxx HD. Got a $100 (Motorola) credit from Verizon for the X2, but I think that program will end this month.
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no cuz its 2 years old
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the king of cryptic posts is finally here. :good: at least hit reply under the original post so we know what you are talking about. in line, this comment makes no sense .
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the king of cryptic posts is finally here. :good: at least hit reply under the original post so we know what you are talking about. in line, this comment makes no sense .
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It was a reply to the OP.
"Do you think the X2 will get more development?"
"No, it's 2 years old."
That's pretty straightforward. I don't agree with his mentality, but his post was perfectly clear.
It's not that the phone is 2 years old that we're not getting any more development. It's the fact that the damn thing is so locked down, we've reached the end to what it's physically possible for us to do with the device. Other devices, such as the Bionic are almost as old, but they're still going strong. (I actually haven't been following the Bionic that long, so I could be wrong. Am going to switch to one soon myself, though.)
DZK stated he's working on 4.2.2 for the DX2
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DZK stated he's working on 4.2.2 for the DX2
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Really?!?!?!?! OMG!!!!!!! Lmao I'm about to go all fanboy.
After 4.1.2 i couldn't bare going back to ugly Gingerbread, it was just too ugly.
Wow. I can't believe it's been this long that I've had this phone. The DroidX2, MB870, or whatever you want to call it has been a huge part of my life for the past two years. As strange as that may sound, you all know that it is true. I was sitting at my desk today, staring at it plugged into my computer when nostalgia'd hard core to the first day I got this phone and did the same thing. I thought back to all the things I went through for this phone (and for you guys) and how much I've learned. It's been through hell and probably worse but all in good fun.
I know that I had never really been a "consistent" developer by any means. Dropping in and out of chats, disappearing for months on end, but one thing that never left my side was this phone. When I got it back then I knew that I wanted to hack it, play with it, develop for it, change it, mold it, whatever. And I think I did just that. Not as much as a wanted to, not as much as I think I could have done, but boy did I have fun doing it. I remember building CyanogenMod 7.0-RC1 on a really old Toshiba with a Core 2 Duo and 2GB of RAM just trying to figure out how to even begin to make a ROM for this phone. It was painful. I remember my first SBF attempt failed because I didn't have my battery charged (now I have two phones and 3 batteries).
The first real thing I did was trying to tear apart the SBFs from a few similar phones and looking through the CDT tables for any answer to unlocking the phone. We never did find that answer (well... maybe, but that's a different story) but I wasn't going to be discouraged. The first real development effort I put into the X2 was with navendrob porting over the pull down settings from the new (still Gingerbread) Atrix ROMs. I tore through smali code, XML files, copying and pasting chunks of code from all over. And then, it happened. I got the pull downs to show up and work. I was incredibly excited (and I showed it all over the IRC) of what I had accomplished. Although this wasn't the first real effort on the X2 as keep in mind that many of us were using Eclipse at the time, I was incredibly happy that it was the first real development for the X2.
SIDE NOTE: I'm incredibly proud of nitroglycerin33. He took his experience from themeing (theming?) the X2 and brought it out to be a widely used ROM on MANY different devices. So props to him for achieving more than I have.
I went on to try to work on getting real ROMs working on the X2. This was around the time we started getting 2nd-init working (the magic behind most of the Motorola ROMs at the time). I remember the first time I got it working. All I did was set one property (something like does.this.work=1) and seeing it show up. But besides randomly popping up in the forums, I started working on ClockworkMod Recovery (which I barely got working, but never fully functional). At this time I created my Twitter account and posted this picture. The date was November 16, 2011 (wow). But I knew that I had to get 2nd-init working better before I could fully get CWMR fully working and updated everyone with why it was so hard to get working.
So I set out to get CyanogenMod actually working from a complete build from scratch (not some hacked Atrix thing) and I posted my progress in the development forum. With the help of my guinea pig Moonshadow-NM doing my actual ROM tests, I watched as we slowly got to the boot animation, and to the home screen. You cannot believe how excited I was. There were so many flaws, that it was barely usable, but I was so happy (I think I scared my roommate from all the excitement). I slowly worked out the kinks, and it's still perhaps the most stable ROM that the X2 has (although I love Jellybean and won't go back to CM7 despite the issues I have).
And the rest is history. I remember holding "release events" for my ROMs. Teasing everyone with new updates, features, fixes, you name it. The IRC chat room would be packed with people waiting for me to post the link. And I was excited to see where we would go. And even if we didn't go very far, we still went on (mostly) as a team. Through ICS, and now JB, I tried to provide what Motorola refused to give.
So this is my thank you to all of you. Past, and (very few) present. You all have helped me through my craziness and issues with this phone and I can never thank you guys enough for it all. I never thought I would have "internet friends" but you guys sure as hell came close. This isn't the end of my adventures with Android. I will be getting a new phone (hopefully) in the coming weeks/months and I want to be a vital part of that development community also. I'm keeping my Java/C/C++ skill sharp still by writing a JNI app. I'm not going to release it as it's mainly just for experimental purposes, but it allows me to practice those languages while focusing on SQL database integration, cryptography, and JNI integration in Android.
So from one X2 guy to another: thank you for all you've done, all you do, and all you will do.
Peace,
dragonzkiller
Thank you so much for all your hard work for the x2. You truly made it greater than Motorola could have. The x2 has had a great community with some great people. That is in large part due to the great roms you have released. Can't wait to see what you end up deving for next. Thank you so much from all of us.
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Glad I could be there for the ride! Dragon was one of a few people dedicated to making the best of the bastard child that is the Motorola Droid X2. Thanks for all the hard work and dedication. Was always proud to be rocking some dragonzkiller custom on my little moto brick. #DX2GOD
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thanks for making my first smartphone ever that much more enjoyable. best of luck on all future endeavors
Your a hell of a dev dragon, thank you for all you did. You made my dx2 enjoyable and I still use your rom on it as an mp3 player
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It was great seeing you make all of those breakthroughs. I'm fairly certain if you were not a full time student over the course of your X2 dev time, we'd have seen you pull off kexec and custom kernels. You have a never-give-up mentality. Honestly, even after you get a new phone, I'd not be completely surprised to see the tweet, "KLP on DX2", lol.
Anyway, thank you for all you've done. Many people have come along and talked big games, made promises they couldn't keep, went all Melvin on us, etc. You've talked very little game, but always made/make big deliveries.
Thanks for all of your work DZK. I've tried walking through your foot steps with a 4.2.2 port I got working TWICE, but haven't gotten it working again. I hope to someday be as good as you
Thanks, it was fun watching you go at it all this time.
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I'm glad to see this post from you DK. It IS weird to think its been that long. As one of the users who was around back then, I have to say that it was fun seeing the DX2 move from Android version to Android version, even though this phone was stuck on Gingerbread in a lot of ways. Without you, this phone would probably still be stuck on 2.3.5. I have moved on from the DX2 and am in other sections of XDA now, but I will always think of the DX2 community to be the best, most helpful community there was/is. So not only thanks to DK, but thanks to all the DX2 users who made this forum enjoyable to be in. Its like your teenage years...you wish you could go back to that better time, but you know you just cant. At least we have the memories. Cheers.
Thanks DZK you really made a difference in my android hacking skills so to say. I remember contemplating on getting the Iphone 4s over the droid. Days after i got my X2 i found this site and tried CM7 for the first time. His roms inspired me to make my first port. This was the best fourm even though we didnt have stuff like and unlocked bootloader. The Razr M forum im at right now has NOTHING on this. Good luck on your adventure with a new phone! Bye!
dzk you've honestly brought me into my first realm of custom rommage. even though I've moved on since the dx2 I'm still excited by being able to look back on what you accomplished and was able to bring the dx2 to a whole new realm. being able to follow the progress of cm7, cm9, and now cm10 has been an exciting little journey that you and many of the other users (whether devs that were part of your "team" or the regular users like myself). all of you guys kick major ass and are awesome on your own rights. so a huge thank you to you dzk, and the og users who have made this bastard phone's forum awesome!
Its been a great experience with the roms you developed. The Dx2 was my first android phone and no matter how many phones I changed to or roms I load up, it will never compare to how I felt when waiting for a link to pop up with your new / updated peice of art.
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The X2 was my first smartphone. I didn't know anything about anything at that time. One day heard about "root", did some research, stumbled across xda. One thing led to the next until I'm looking at a little dude with a skateboard on my screen, waiting for CM7 to boot. I still remember my excitement. Thank you for that DZK, best of luck to you.
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You know I have move on also just recently as most, but I still have my X2. I am saving it for my son to show him with a good education and a little knowlege. He can accomplish almost anything, I never left CM7 needed the stability of what my phone offered for my sons memorys. I never tested the waters of developing. Just a few xml, png, changes to fit my desires.
You have a great deal to offer I hope it takes you far. I still check the X2 threads for new development just because I know you still play with it can't wait to see you hit the "Big Time" with your Talents. Good Luck and Thank You!!!!
It really has been over two years! My X2 had the search button wig out exactly 1yr and 3 days after I got it (3 days out of warranty) back in may 2012. Verizon nor Motorola would honor it for being out of warranty. I moved on then, but still checked back as this community is the first android community I joined.
I went through an HTC incredible and a LG Spectrum. Both were nothing compared to what you did with the X2.
After a little tinkering of my own, I got the X2 back up and running. (Took some soldering and precise hand movements to get the search button to work again. When a hardware key malfunctions, the phone will only boot into safe mode). I still use CM7 on my x2 (as an mp3 olater or a GPS unit) and it is on par with this Rezound in speed and responsiveness...
Sad to see you go, but happy you are moving on to bigger and newer projects. Best of luck on your new adventures.
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Thanks Bryan, no thanks to aceoyame who totally abandoned the x2 while porting the X2 to MIUI...
THANKS BROTHER
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Dragonzkiller, you made life fun with the X2. CM7 was awesome, as was Eclipse. Kudos for giving Nitro some props as he deserves it as well.
What you did, though, was awesome, Writing the image from scratch and making what was a damn stable ROM for the X2. I kept swapping back and forth between CM7 and Eclipse on the X2.
But, like you, times changed and I moved on. It was time for an upgrade and I needed a phone that had a better upgrade path, so it was with that I moved onto the Droid RAZR MAXX.
I'm still running that phone and probably will for some time since that was my last upgrade available to me. Currently, CM10.2 is being developed for it (4.3 kernel) and it's pretty stable.
Many thanks to you and to ALL the developers out there that put in so much of their time and effort into releasing things for us minions to run on our phones. I've learned a lot about how Android works, but with my full-time programming job, I've never had the time to actually learn it for myself. I still plan on doing so, but it just depends.
In any case, this is why I love the Android community. It's never a dull moment, and definitely, with the X2 and the entire bootloader unlocking fiasco that occurred that one night and caused Ash to go into a drunken tirade on Twitter, who can say the X2 was boring?
BTW, I say with a heavy heart that I no longer have my X2. Wish I did, but I traded it in at Best Buy. Got $75 out of it and used it towards getting my daughter her upgrade to a smartphone. Sadly, I couldn't convince her to go Droid. She went with the fruit, so I guess that's one failure for dear old Dad. Well, two because now my other daughter went to the fruit tree as well, even though I had her use my old OG Droid RAZR until her upgrade came up. I guess she got teased too much since all her friends had iP... oops, almost said the naughty word. You know what I mean! In any case, I do miss the X2. Might have to pick one up one day on eBay or something just to tinker with. Still have my crappy LG Vortex, which was my first Droid phone. I can't even give that one away!
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I just want to say thanks to all the hard work the devs have done to make this phone the best it could be.
I have moved on to greener pastures with a Droid Ultra.
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Sad this phone never got more. Thanks dragonz for your hard work when i still had this phone!
New users are still benefiting from your great work
Just wanted to say I am appreciate all the sharing of your work with others. I needed a G3 Verizon phone to work on PagePlus so I just purchased a Droid x2 3/3/2014. I rooted and flashed your CM10a3. I used this phone everyday and its a very useful phone now. I do have battery drain as some have experience but that is minor compared to the usefulness of this phone. Thanks!