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I recently acquired both an X and an X2. Have to keep one and sell the other. I just moved from the Incredible, which has awesome development, so I'm a little spoiled.
Seems that the X is a little further along the development cycle (makes sense), but I REALLY like the screen, CPU, and GPU of the X2.
Do I keep the X2 and hope for more development (really wanting CM7 or MIUI), or do I keep the X, which already has some pretty stable ROMs? I worry that many of the Devs are just going to bypass the X2 and move on to a more dev-friendly device or on to the Bionic or something.
Please help me decide which to hold on to!! Incidently, I don't have to sell one off for another week or two, so there is a little more time to see if CM7 can come out for the X2 I guess.
I don't see much happening with the x2 honestly. I'll be selling my x2 once the galaxy s2 arrives unless we get a break in development on this phone.
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I don't see much happening with the x2 honestly. I'll be selling my x2 once the galaxy s2 arrives
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Good im pretty sure the devs hate ungrateful people. There is alot happening on this phone. Only thing we are missing is the bootloader.
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EvilTim said:
Good im pretty sure the devs hate ungrateful people. There is alot happening on this phone. Only thing we are missing is the bootloader.
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I Hate Ungrateful People, I Am So Happy And Appreciative For Everything Anyone Does ForThis Phone. I Try To Help Out By Either Providing New Information Or Helping Someone Figure Things Out So They Hold Onto The X2. This Device Definitely Needs Support To Sway Developers To Wanna Put Their Time In. Once Again Thank You To Everyone Who Has/Is Working On This To Make It Better For All.
its funny to me everyone keeps talking about switching from a new device to something even newer as if support for that will be any better every device takes time I'm sticking with x2 at least for another 5-6 months.
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Guys, I'm completely new to both the X and the X2. I have no prior experience with either device, nor do I have a bias. I have read enough on all the various forums to see the hatred for one or both phones. Point is, I can only keep one of these bad boys. Like them both. Just hoping someone with more inside knowledge than myself can give me a better indication on future development potential.
From my fresh perspective on both of these phones, it is clear that the X has already had significant development (I love CM7 and MIUI Roms from my Incredible), and it seems like a gamble to hold onto the X2 because it may OR may not get to that point. Does this sound about right?? Again, not hating on either phone or community. This wasn't intended to be an "I'm moving on" thread. It's a "help me choose" thread. Thanks.
Epicardium said:
Guys, I'm completely new to both the X and the X2. I have no prior experience with either device, nor do I have a bias. I have read enough on all the various forums to see the hatred for one or both phones. Point is, I can only keep one of these bad boys. Like them both. Just hoping someone with more inside knowledge than myself can give me a better indication on future development potential.
From my fresh perspective on both of these phones, it is clear that the X has already had significant development (I love CM7 and MIUI Roms from my Incredible), and it seems like a gamble to hold onto the X2 because it may OR may not get to that point. Does this sound about right?? Again, not hating on either phone or community. This wasn't intended to be an "I'm moving on" thread. It's a "help me choose" thread. Thanks.
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CM7 And BAMF Are Coming To The X2 "Soon"
It's Gonna Be A Couple More Weeks At LEAST Before We Are To See Either A Beta Or Stable Rom. I Hope That Clarifies What You Want To Know.
MikeJ92YJ said:
CM7 And BAMF Are Coming To The X2 "Soon"
It's Gonna Be A Couple More Weeks At LEAST Before We Are To See Either A Beta Or Stable Rom. I Hope That Clarifies What You Want To Know.
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It does help some. It seems that one dev working on CM7 is needing some help though, and not getting it. That's what I'm reading into the posts anyway. No disrespect to the dev who's working on it. I just know that these things seem to require multiple devs working on teams. So if you can tell me definitively that CM7 will come, I'm a happy camper.
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It does help some. It seems that one dev working on CM7 is needing some help though, and not getting it. That's what I'm reading into the posts anyway. No disrespect to the dev who's working on it. I just know that these things seem to require multiple devs working on teams. So if you can tell me definitively that CM7 will come, I'm a happy camper.
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One Thing You Really Need To Understand There Is Nothing Definite With Developing. It Can Take Numerous Trial And Errors Before Done Or It May Never Happen At All.
we should all be happy that moto surprisingly did an awesome job with the GB update, it added so much polish that was lacking in previous builds and helped speed up our phones greatly. If you want MIUI so bad, there is a launcher that mimics MIUI ROM This phone has only been popular for like 2 months, that is NOT enough time for any development to happen lol so just get Rooted GB, Freeze Bloat, Supercharge this bad boy and if you want to run the MIUI Launcher and have one of the fastest phones on the market
It's really a no-brainer. The X2 is way above the X in performance. IMHO, it's the best phone that Verizon sells, unless you really must have 4G service. Both phones have the lousy Blur interface, but you can customize them, as you know, with aftermarket launchers and programs. Both phones have locked bootloaders, so not a lot of development.
There has recently been some increased development interest in the X2, however. Gingerbread (2.3.3) is the most recent OS, and there is now a pre-rooted version of Gingerbread readily available. As for ROMs, "Eclipse" is well liked and seems to be extremely well thought out. Most recent edition has done away with most of the Blur interface. More details here.
If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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colonel187 said:
If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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Well that was rather immature and "toolish" ... just don't post if your feelings are that negative
On another note, I would say to keep the X2. It is a more powerful in all aspects.
X2 is one badass piece of hardware. Period.
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colonel187 said:
If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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If the clown can find time to reprimand me for being helpful and using another word for excrement, where is he when all this guy posts is Flamebait?
On topic, if you want cm7, stay with the x. If you can wait, keep your x2
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colonel187 said:
If you need to ask other peoples opinion on which phone you want.... don't pick the x2. Im tired of everyone whining. Don't buy just released gadgets if you can't handle bugs and lack of support. Wait! I have a great idea... sell both and buy an even newer phone that may or may not even be rooted yet. Yep that's a good plan.
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Oh come on guys, this was by FAR the most useful reply I got
Seriously though, thanks for the input for those who actually took time to post something meaningful. I know the X2 is a great piece of hardware, but my rooted Incredible running AOSP was actually faster and more responsive than this thing is right now, so I guess I'm suffering from some withdrawl. I'll root, debloat, supercharge, etc and see how it goes. I'll probably hold on to the X2 and hope for the best because I'd hate to be kicking myself a month from now when CM7 and then MIUI get unleashed. Surely those two ROMs running on this hardware will perform better than my Incredible, not to mention better than the original X.
Of course, if development completely halts in a month then I'll probably just beat my head and cry for what might have been, had I kept the original X. Time will tell. I.....must.......be.........patient.............
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Oh come on guys, this was by FAR the most useful reply I got
Seriously though, thanks for the input for those who actually took time to post something meaningful. I know the X2 is a great piece of hardware, but my rooted Incredible running AOSP was actually faster and more responsive than this thing is right now, so I guess I'm suffering from some withdrawl. I'll root, debloat, supercharge, etc and see how it goes. I'll probably hold on to the X2 and hope for the best because I'd hate to be kicking myself a month from now when CM7 and then MIUI get unleashed. Surely those two ROMs running on this hardware will perform better than my Incredible, not to mention better than the original X.
Of course, if development completely halts in a month then I'll probably just beat my head and cry for what might have been, had I kept the original X. Time will tell. I.....must.......be.........patient.............
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I'm stuck with the phone for the next 18 months, so I won't let it die! How many possble character combinations could there be for the unlock code?
WOW, well the people who are complaining and moaning about not seeing much happening are welcome to leave, nitroglycerine is doing great things with what hes got and CM7 will be a gateway, I'd stick with the X2, it's got tons of potential and is definitely a top of the line device but everything that needs to be done won't just happen overnight, I would suggest hanging in there.
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WOW, well the people who are complaining and moaning about not seeing much happening are welcome to leave, nitroglycerine is doing great things with what hes got and CM7 will be a gateway, I'd stick with the X2, it's got tons of potential and is definitely a top of the line device but everything that needs to be done won't just happen overnight, I would suggest hanging in there.
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Agreed. As more development gets done more developers will get onboard, hopefully. And sooner or later, the bootloader will get cracked & then the fun starts. You'd kick yourself for missing that...& don't forget navendrob, thatdudebutch(team bamf ) & dragonzkiller are working on good things for us too.
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I know it's a week before Christmas and all, but it just seems (to me at least) that the forum(s) have died. I just hope this isn't' the end for the X2 and that there's still some dev action going on.
I just hope that I didn't bring anyone down, and I do appreciate our devs, and the guys working on 2nd-init.
Don't worry. Devs are hard at work. Although this isn't the most loved phone out there, we are working on it. Keep patient and we'll let you know when there are new things available for public consumption.
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You know, I never got that. Why is this phone passed over so much? It is incredible, convenient and fast as hell...
i hope it doesn't die down ive only had my X2 for 3 weeks and im just starting to enjoy it
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You know, I never got that. Why is this phone passed over so much? It is incredible, convenient and fast as hell...
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This phone mainly gets support from developers who have this phone and want to make it better. Other devs that develop for other phone pass over the Droid X2 because it has a locked bootloader. Which means a lot of the stuff required to run things that other phones can is locked down by the manufacturer. It doesnt give the Droid X2 a lot of options. This is why I appreciate all the devs who try their hardest to get the Droid X2 a little more awesome.
To the original post, it IS the holiday season and developers have families and all as well. They dont work for us. lol. But they haven't left us.
Is it just me or have the irc chats died down as well? Or have they just moved to another channel and I just missed the memo? lol
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mastafunk set up a new channel for it. Can't say if it's been busy in there though as I haven't been around much myself lately. Early Christmas for our family here this weekend since some of the kids are going to their other half's relaticks for Christmas weekend this year. One year there, one year here.
Anyway, if you want to check it out, the new channel is #X2-AOSP.
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mastafunk set up a new channel for it. Can't say if it's been busy in there though as I haven't been around much myself lately. Early Christmas for our family here this weekend since some of the kids are going to their other half's relaticks for Christmas weekend this year. One year there, one year here.
Anyway, if you want to check it out, the new channel is #X2-AOSP.
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Cool, I'll poke my nose in there in a bit to get my nerd on lol.
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Look, I had my week of finals which absolutely killed my development time. But now that it's over, I've started working on the phone again. Yes, there was a LOT of excitement (maybe too much) at first, but don't say that development has died. Masta seems to think so too. I warned people about getting too excited about this right away but looks like it still got out of hand. I have officially started working on CWMR and/or CM7 again and hopefully can make some progress with both of them.
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Look, I had my week of finals which absolutely killed my development time. But now that it's over, I've started working on the phone again. Yes, there was a LOT of excitement (maybe too much) at first, but don't say that development has died. Masta seems to think so too. I warned people about getting too excited about this right away but looks like it still got out of hand. I have officially started working on CWMR and/or CM7 again and hopefully can make some progress with both of them.
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Good luck dragonzkiller
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Look, I had my week of finals which absolutely killed my development time. But now that it's over, I've started working on the phone again. Yes, there was a LOT of excitement (maybe too much) at first, but don't say that development has died. Masta seems to think so too. I warned people about getting too excited about this right away but looks like it still got out of hand. I have officially started working on CWMR and/or CM7 again and hopefully can make some progress with both of them.
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I haven't totally left either... I'm just working more casually atm
I can understand that. dragonz it does seem like everyone got too excited, and I realize it does take a while to get it to work, but I'm glad you guys aren't totally gone and I'm thankful for you guys and I'd love to start working on a rom myself, but I've had the problems of knowing where to start at officially.
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You know, I never got that. Why is this phone passed over so much? It is incredible, convenient and fast as hell...
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well the long delayed bionic came out not long after, which was the next big thing...for a couple months, and now its on to the new razr
I was thinking its odd that we never saw a soak for 2.3.5, so maybe they pitched that and are going straight to 4.0!
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I was thinking its odd that we never saw a soak for 2.3.5, so maybe they pitched that and are going straight to 4.0!
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Now THAT'S funny.
Verizon sat on the 2.3.4 update for 2months "testing" and "quality control"
THEN moto did the soak.
If anything if it WAS scrapped I would see us getting 2.3.7 way before 4.0
And 4.0 is most likely a dream fir us.
They didn't even care how buggy the 2.3.4 update was. And they DEFINITELY knew about it.
/end rant....sorry...
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Now THAT'S funny.
Verizon sat on the 2.3.4 update for 2months "testing" and "quality control"
THEN moto did the soak.
If anything if it WAS scrapped I would see us getting 2.3.7 way before 4.0
And 4.0 is most likely a dream fir us.
They didn't even care how buggy the 2.3.4 update was. And they DEFINITELY knew about it.
/end rant....sorry...
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Yeah I bet we don't see another official update or maybe one and it'll be a 2.3.5 small update. Then nothing. Due to motor cranking out device after device we might as well have the og droid in their mind. Just my thoughts
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ashclepdia said:
Now THAT'S funny.
Verizon sat on the 2.3.4 update for 2months "testing" and "quality control"
THEN moto did the soak.
/end rant....sorry...
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wow, was it really 2 months ash? I was in on both of them, and my memory was thinking that the soak was announced shortly after the leaks were discovered here.
and I know I'm dreamin about the 4.0, just some blue sky thinking there
they are being pushed for 18 months of support though
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wow, was it really 2 months ash? I was in on both of them, and my memory was thinking that the soak was announced shortly after the leaks were discovered here.
and I know I'm dreamin about the 4.0, just some blue sky thinking there
they are being pushed for 18 months of support though
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The sbf leak was FOUND shortly before the soak yes...u r correct there.
BUT(I believe it was mentioned in the beginning of 2.3.4sbf thread) the date attached to the sbf file was from a month or two prior. Meaning that since the sbf WAS the same as the OTA, that the build was finished a month or two BEFORE soak was even announced. Which more than likely means Verizon was "testing"(sitting) on it for a long time.
Lol...and.nothing wrong wit some blue sky dreaming...I still have slight hopes we eventually get an unlocked BL. But I know chances are most likely not lol.
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Look, I had my week of finals which absolutely killed my development time. But now that it's over, I've started working on the phone again. Yes, there was a LOT of excitement (maybe too much) at first, but don't say that development has died. Masta seems to think so too. I warned people about getting too excited about this right away but looks like it still got out of hand. I have officially started working on CWMR and/or CM7 again and hopefully can make some progress with both of them.
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I, also, got too excited... but am thankful that you are still working on our beloved X2. I hope you did well on all of your finals and am pulling for you to succeed with this development.
Happy Holidays!!!
Let's also remember people that developing.. modding ... theming phones is extremely time consuming and what u get when a dev finishes a project is something that makes your device better or more customized.. I am not a developer because my knowledge on a lot of the cpu information is limited at best at this point although im learning a lot on this aspect... I do theme for the droid x2 and I think it is safe to say that I have spent atleast 24 to 48 hours of working time on any of the themes I have made... furthermore when embarking on projects and I can only imagine what this feels like embarking on a project as ambitious as what dragonzkiller and others have contributed to frustration sets in... maybe these guys get this to work.. maybe they don't.. maybe they go ahead and create new roms customized to their... bottom line be grateful u have people that make this phone better
Merry christmas
Rant complete
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I'm rather new(6 months in) to the scene of flashing roms and sbf'ing and scripting and this sort of stuff. My question is this, since the Razr is Motorola's latest creation and it is said to be getting ICS starting today with an update, will this update play any role in possible development for a full blown ICS AOSP based rom (similar to CM7, I would guess) but with the elements of ICS all in one place. Without having to piece it all together to just look like ICS. Any insight on this would be cool to hear. I'm just curious, and can't upgrade until 2013
Thanks.
-David
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I'm rather new(6 months in) to the scene of flashing roms and sbf'ing and scripting and this sort of stuff. My question is this, since the Razr is Motorola's latest creation and it is said to be getting ICS starting today with an update, will this update play any role in possible development for a full blown ICS AOSP based rom (similar to CM7, I would guess) but with the elements of ICS all in one place. Without having to piece it all together to just look like ICS. Any insight on this would be cool to hear. I'm just curious, and can't upgrade until 2013
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-David
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sir, first off you posted on the wrong forum, dx2 android dev, i ask a mod to move this to general
and tbh, i have no idea if this would affect us, but i do know the razr has an omap ti chip compared to our ****ty, locked down tegra2
I thought about where to post this and development seemed suitable. Sorry if I broke some rules or something, it just seemed like it might get more attention here being a development question and not just a general question.
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I thought about where to post this and development seemed suitable. Sorry if I broke some rules or something, it just seemed like it might get more attention here being a development question and not just a general question.
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which i fully understand, sir, but i dont think the razr will help us much, because of the chipset
I guess I should have clarified more, now that I think about it, I was thinking more like, would it be possible to take the pieces out of the ICS rom for the RAZR and some how incorporate them into the one of our current roms? Just different elements of the SBF file or systemui.apk. Like I said, I could be blowing smoke and sound completely ignorant about the topic, but I'm just gathering thoughts is all. And please, no need to call me sir. I'm a noob here. lol
-David
it is my understanding that the Razr got ICS by searching project CHEESECAKE
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I guess I should have clarified more, now that I think about it, I was thinking more like, would it be possible to take the pieces out of the ICS rom for the RAZR and some how incorporate them into the one of our current roms? Just different elements of the SBF file or systemui.apk. Like I said, I could be blowing smoke and sound completely ignorant about the topic, but I'm just gathering thoughts is all. And please, no need to call me sir. I'm a noob here. lol
-David
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This is kinda sorta what Dragonzkiller is doing with CM9 except he isn't pulling things directly from other systems.
I don't know how much alike the phones are but I'm willing to bet that at the very least the razrs framework might be worth glancing at.
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I'm rather new(6 months in) to the scene of flashing roms and sbf'ing and scripting and this sort of stuff. My question is this, since the Razr is Motorola's latest creation and it is said to be getting ICS starting today with an update, will this update play any role in possible development for a full blown ICS AOSP based rom (similar to CM7, I would guess) but with the elements of ICS all in one place. Without having to piece it all together to just look like ICS. Any insight on this would be cool to hear. I'm just curious, and can't upgrade until 2013
Thanks.
-David
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Short answer: No.
Long answer: Heeeeeellll No! (What? It is longer, btw! )
My job is done here! Captain Obvious up and away!
Got my answer. Thanks all.
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Quick Answer: Not like you are thinking??
We won't get Official ICS, IF dzk ever gets the time away from class, we will see a PORT of cm9(which is ICS), but we will probably 'never' get ICS or any ICS Based ROM for a while. Too much stuff to do and not a lot of devs...also, personal life gets in the way a lot over on this end of Android.
It looks like the RAZR is already on the verge of taking the back seat to whatever Motorola/Verizon have on the horizon (Droid Fighter). I get an upgrade next month and have my fingers crossed in hopes that a variant of the HTC One X will come to Verzion (I would settle for an HTC Droid Incredible 4G at this point). This locked bootloader will be the death of development in the foreseeable future, if anything. Motorola makes solid hardware but doesn't want to us to play with it. It's a damn shame.
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It looks like the RAZR is already on the verge of taking the back seat to whatever Motorola/Verizon have on the horizon (Droid Fighter). I get an upgrade next month and have my fingers crossed in hopes that a variant of the HTC One X will come to Verzion (I would settle for an HTC Droid Incredible 4G at this point). This locked bootloader will be the death of development in the foreseeable future, if anything. Motorola makes solid hardware but doesn't want to us to play with it. It's a damn shame.
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True its a shame. The locked bootloader is a big reason I gave up on my X2. The possibilities on the phone could be endless if they'd unlock it but that will never happen cuz Motorola is Big Reds B$%ch. But dragonzkiller still might pull it off for u guys with cm9 in his spare time, and hopefully he will.
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True its a shame. The locked bootloader is a big reason I gave up on my X2. The possibilities on the phone could be endless if they'd unlock it but that will never happen cuz Motorola is Big Reds B$%ch. But dragonzkiller still might pull it off for u guys with cm9 in his spare time, and hopefully he will.
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These reasons will be the same reason I end up with an HTC after my upgrade. I never though I would go to them but they have far surpassed moto in the support of the dev community. Thanks for the opinions guys.
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The possibilities on the phone could be endless if they'd unlock it but that will never happen cuz Motorola is Big Reds B$%ch.
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Thats why I'm still hoping Cspire or some other smaller carrier pushes Moto to keep this MX2 updated, especially since they just added the device to their lineup a few months ago.
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Thats why I'm still hoping Cspire or some other smaller carrier pushes Moto to keep this MX2 updated, especially since they just added the device to their lineup a few months ago.
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Don't know why they would treat the mx2 differently
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It's been said already, but there is no way in hell the DX/DX2 are getting ICS from Motorola. Dragonkiller is probably the best bet and I know he mentioned in another thread he had lots of personal life stuff till at least summer.
Simple answer: No one should be buying Motorola. Send them a message. The Galaxy S III should be out soon and HTC has a decent quad core in the pipeline. Stop buying Motorola phones!
My DX2 does run better then my DX did but that's only because of DK's CM7 port. If VZW's insurance company did not give me the DX2 for a replacement of the DX I had, I would have never owned this phone. It sucks you have until 2013 but with any luck a CM9 p
ort will get done. In 2013 if the world has not ended yet and the time finally comes for your upgrade, I hope you remember Motorola screwing you and not buy another Motorola device. Don't buy into the owned by Google thing, they are still the same company and play by the same rules. Have they removed the encrypted bootloader? No and they won't because Google may own them but they are not interfering with any of Motorolas business practices. Also don't forget Google has become VZW's b*tch lately too so don't expect Google to stand up for you.
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It's been said already, but there is no way in hell the DX/DX2 are getting ICS from Motorola. Dragonkiller is probably the best bet and I know he mentioned in another thread he had lots of personal life stuff till at least summer.
Simple answer: No one should be buying Motorola. Send them a message. The Galaxy S III should be out soon and HTC has a decent quad core in the pipeline. Stop buying Motorola phones!
My DX2 does run better then my DX did but that's only because of DK's CM7 port. If VZW's insurance company did not give me the DX2 for a replacement of the DX I had, I would have never owned this phone. It sucks you have until 2013 but with any luck a CM9 p
ort will get done. In 2013 if the world has not ended yet and the time finally comes for your upgrade, I hope you remember Motorola screwing you and not buy another Motorola device. Don't buy into the owned by Google thing, they are still the same company and play by the same rules. Have they removed the encrypted bootloader? No and they won't because Google may own them but they are not interfering with any of Motorolas business practices. Also don't forget Google has become VZW's b*tch lately too so don't expect Google to stand up for you.
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Amen to this.
Although I'm half-way flattered about your comments about my work, this is posted in the wrong forum.
The X2 will never get official ICS and my CM9 port is the only ICS ROM that will probably ever be released for it. Maybe AOKP if I were to ever get the chance, but who in the hell ever knows.
TLDR: Wrong forums, no ice cream fo you! (yet)
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Hi. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but what the heck. I've owned an HTC Incredible for almost 24 months and this past Saturday I dropped it glass first onto the concrete. Needless to say, I have an x2 UPS should be dropping off at my house today. I'm looking forward to the larger screen and dual core CPU.
After browsing the developer forums, I am disappointed how little ROM selection there is. I read this is because Motorola locks down their system. I had the choice of an Incredible 2 or this. I chose this, so I hope I won't be disappointed.
About me: I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, so I hope to help test out ROMs as much as possible after I root. Which shouldn't take too long to talk myself into it . I'm more of a lurker than a poster. That's all for now.
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Hi. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but what the heck. I've owned an HTC Incredible for almost 24 months and this past Saturday I dropped it glass first onto the concrete. Needless to say, I have an x2 UPS should be dropping off at my house today. I'm looking forward to the larger screen and dual core CPU.
After browsing the developer forums, I am disappointed how little ROM selection there is. I read this is because Motorola locks down their system. I had the choice of an Incredible 2 or this. I chose this, so I hope I won't be disappointed.
About me: I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, so I hope to help test out ROMs as much as possible after I root. Which shouldn't take too long to talk myself into it . I'm more of a lurker than a poster. That's all for now.
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Welcome. Since you are coming from an HTC phone, you may get a little frustrated with how much you cant do on a Motorola phone. BUT, we do have awesome developers who make awesome ROMs for our phones. I suggest Eclipse or CM7. And I would forget how you used a rooted HTC and learn from scratch with your DX2. For instance, if you have used ROM manager or anything similar, don't use it with your DX2. A lot of people mess up there phones with that. We dont use ClockworkMod Recovery, but an alternative called Bootstrap Recovery. Since our phones are locked down, we have to be tethered to a wall charger to use this. No flashing on the go for us. And ICS is a ways away from getting onto our phones. Just a few things we have to deal with. Its still a nice phone.
JMooney5115 said:
Hi. I'm not sure if this is appropriate, but what the heck. I've owned an HTC Incredible for almost 24 months and this past Saturday I dropped it glass first onto the concrete. Needless to say, I have an x2 UPS should be dropping off at my house today. I'm looking forward to the larger screen and dual core CPU.
After browsing the developer forums, I am disappointed how little ROM selection there is. I read this is because Motorola locks down their system. I had the choice of an Incredible 2 or this. I chose this, so I hope I won't be disappointed.
About me: I have a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, so I hope to help test out ROMs as much as possible after I root. Which shouldn't take too long to talk myself into it . I'm more of a lurker than a poster. That's all for now.
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Though stuff is bleak now and people like me recently moved to other phones like the nexus or dinc2 or resound, still dragonzkiller is working on CM9 and that should immensely help this device. Right now 2 of the best ROMs are CM7 and eclipse, which is a huge complement to eclipse as it is based on blur....
Oh crap, btw pray to god that your phone does NOT have 2.3.5 OTA on it. If so, you cannot root it. Yet.
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With it being more difficult to flash, maybe I'll have a more operable phone lol. On a more serious note, after reading that HTC is releasing ICS for the Incredible 2 I am somewhat disappointed for not choosing it. I'm happy to try a Motorola phone again thought and will enjoy the 0.3" larger screen, my main reason for talking insurance into giving me this phone. Anyways, thanks for the information, it will come in handy on down the road.
Sad to hear there's only 2 main ROMs people use. I'm crossing my fingers for having 2.3.4 .
It probably will have 235 http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-x2-hacks/205470-bummer-full-2-3-5-1-3-418-root-broken.html
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It probably will have 235 http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-x2-hacks/205470-bummer-full-2-3-5-1-3-418-root-broken.html
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That sucks. Damn Motorola.
Welcome to the X2 commnuity
To be brutally honest, I believe the incredible 2 has a much higher satisfaction rate compared to the X2. *cough cough* that's why I was going to get the Inc2 until I saw Rezound at a reasonable price
But as said, there are some developers that make X2 quaint =)
I SWEAR TO GOD if the ota breaks root I'm leaving this crap phone.... omg I'm effn pissed!!! Hopefully there was a mistake somewhere... read the link above guys.. and be ready to scream at someone.
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king..kranium said:
I SWEAR TO GOD if the ota breaks root I'm leaving this crap phone.... omg I'm effn pissed!!! Hopefully there was a mistake somewhere... read the link above guys.. and be ready to scream at someone.
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I thought someone in this thread said it but I guess not. I read someone saying Eclipse is modified to block OTA updates. Thats a relief on my part since thats what I'm using.
jsgraphicart said:
I thought someone in this thread said it but I guess not. I read someone saying Eclipse is modified to block OTA updates. Thats a relief on my part since thats what I'm using.
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As far as I know/remember, all ROMs block OTAs. CM7 does too...
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As far as I know/remember, all ROMs block OTAs. CM7 does too...
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Well thats good news.
Watercycle said:
To be brutally honest, I believe the incredible 2 has a much higher satisfaction rate compared to the X2.
But as said, there are some developers that make X2 quaint =)
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The Incredible 2 didn't even pop in my mind to be honest.
My phone has 2.3.4, let the fun begin . The phone seems pretty quick so far, except when unlocking. Does the snappiness end over time like I've heard?
I've had both, dinc2 is far better.
no offense to dx2 devs though. Dzk, nitro and company are the best.
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I hate to hear that. How were you able to trade up to an Inc2?
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The Incredible 2 didn't even pop in my mind to be honest.
My phone has 2.3.4, let the fun begin . The phone seems pretty quick so far, except when unlocking. Does the snappiness end over time like I've heard?
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Yes. Yes, it does end. Anyway, the good news is you are on 2.3.4 and thereby been spared by the tyranny of Moto, but by just. Your best bet is CM7/Eclipse and soon CM9... Just don't ask for ETAs, else you'll suffer the wrath of the Dragon!
And don't dare update to 2.3.5. In fact, just root that damn thing and install CM7/Eclipse to avoid being nagged by the phone to update, when the damned update does arrive.. Enjoy (I can't say that with a straight face, sigh) your device as much as possible. And I hope I and others didn't rain on your parade too much. Have fun with the X2...
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I hate to hear that. How were you able to trade up to an Inc2?
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Here is how I did it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586153. This other forum was what led up to it.
If you have bloat freezer or titanium back up you can stop the ota update.
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If you ... titanium back up you can stop the ota update.
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That's good news, I can't live without Titanium Backup.
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And I hope I and others didn't rain on your parade too much. Have fun with the X2...
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If by rain on my parade you mean make me regret getting this phone... . I do enjoy the slightly larger screen and resolution so that's trade off enough for me. But if it does end up like the post you linked, dinc2 here I come.
After not even having the phone activated for 24 hours I'm having trouble. It's the infamous sdcard music playback skipping I've read about . This happens intermittently, sometimes few skips sometimes many. Called Asurion, they told me to take the battery out and hold power down for 15 seconds. We'll see how it does at work tomorrow.
Edit: This happens with the phone idol running PowerAMP with music from 128 KBPS all the way to 2580KBPS. It gets worse downloading updates on 3G.
Youll never completely get rid of that, and its not the sdcard it dies it on internal as well, im looking into new samsung phones, done with motorola soon as I find what i want. Without nitro, dkz, and the rest of our gang i would have been gone months ago. But cm7 and eclipse are both amazing compared to what this was out of the box
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If you go into power amp setings and find the buffering option and select the largest one it may help the skipping. I came from the original droidx and i was expecting a better phone but turned out to be worse. I am just glad that we have any devs working on this phone! they have done alot for it.
bare with me
Okay i'm extremely fed up. I have had my DX2 for less than a year and I am now just returning my 4th DX2 (will be a total of 5 dx2s) this week for software/hardware related problems. None of this has to do with flashing roms either because the first 3 and possibly the forth i never flashed a single rom. ( mainly because i was to scared)
so here is my question:
in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586153, litetaker explains the process of receiving a phone upgrade after i believe 2 replacements. IM ON MY 5th!!
I would think that they would have mentioned something about receiving a phone upgrade after my 2nd replacement. But it doesn't surprise me that they wouldn't want to give out a free phone after all the news about Verizon no longer offering the unlimited data plan and bottle necking 3g users.
anyways,
can anyone confirm that it is an option to receive and upgraded phone at no extra cost me after 2 replacement phones?
Idk man took me 5 different malfunctioning Droid X's before Verizon's insurance Asurion decided to offer me an X2. Then again that wasn't straight from VZW either.
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well the first 3 were through a authorized Verizon retailer and the last 2 were from an actual Verizon store.
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bare with me
Okay i'm extremely fed up. I have had my DX2 for less than a year and I am now just returning my 4th DX2 (will be a total of 5 dx2s) this week for software/hardware related problems. None of this has to do with flashing roms either because the first 3 and possibly the forth i never flashed a single rom. ( mainly because i was to scared)
so here is my question:
in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586153, litetaker explains the process of receiving a phone upgrade after i believe 2 replacements. IM ON MY 5th!!
I would think that they would have mentioned something about receiving a phone upgrade after my 2nd replacement. But it doesn't surprise me that they wouldn't want to give out a free phone after all the news about Verizon no longer offering the unlimited data plan and bottle necking 3g users.
anyways,
can anyone confirm that it is an option to receive and upgraded phone at no extra cost me after 2 replacement phones?
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In my experience they are never going to offer and it doesn't matter the carrier...any time that I have ever gotten a replacement of a different model it was something I had to tell them I wanted and had to have been very very firm about
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looks like i will be doing a bit of complaining today
Make sure you tell them you don't want another x2. (if you try cm7/cm9 or eclipse you might not hate it)
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LordRalh3 said:
Make sure you tell them you don't want another x2. (if you try cm7/cm9 or eclipse you might not hate it)
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I've pretty much flashed everything since i received my last x2. eclipse,cm7,cm9, and others which have escaped my mind, but im just sick of the x2 especially the physical menu, home, back, and search buttons. its annoying at night when my girlfriend is trying to sleep and im on my phone and it just goes CLICK, CLICK, CLICK. i'd just like a new toy to play with and i feel like i have a solid argument ( having 5 replacements) to qualify for a new model.
After my second one I asked for a similar device besides the x2. I played stupid and asked about the incredible2. They said they could do that.
Travisdroidx2 said:
After my second one I asked for a similar device besides the x2. I played stupid and asked about the incredible2. They said they could do that.
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my hopes are high, but i am probably gunna ask for a nexus
Good luck maybe a nexus if early upgrade but I doubt they will for free.
lol like i said my hopes are high. my upgrade isn't until feb 2013. think that it is to early for an "early upgrade"? but maybe ill settle for the droid inc2 and save my upgrade for something bigger in the beginning of 2013
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I've pretty much flashed everything since i received my last x2. eclipse,cm7,cm9, and others which have escaped my mind, but im just sick of the x2 especially the physical menu, home, back, and search buttons. its annoying at night when my girlfriend is trying to sleep and im on my phone and it just goes CLICK, CLICK, CLICK. i'd just like a new toy to play with and i feel like i have a solid argument ( having 5 replacements) to qualify for a new model.
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Amen on the clicking sounds. I have the exact same situation, while she has a Droid Razr with no physical buttons!
Though I am curious as to what issues you've encountered? I've been pretty harsh on mine, but without any real hardware issue. With software I can never get the combo of WidgetLocker, Poweramp, & gReader Pro to not make my music stutter. Other than that, I am sitting at "barely content, but want more."
dets34 said:
I've pretty much flashed everything since i received my last x2. eclipse,cm7,cm9, and others which have escaped my mind, but im just sick of the x2 especially the physical menu, home, back, and search buttons. its annoying at night when my girlfriend is trying to sleep and im on my phone and it just goes CLICK, CLICK, CLICK. i'd just like a new toy to play with and i feel like i have a solid argument ( having 5 replacements) to qualify for a new model.
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Worst case scenario, which I hope not for your sake of bad runs with the X2, try Button Savior. That will fix the clicking
well just got off the phone with probably the most stubborn customer service rep ever. I think at one point he actually cussed ME out. looks like ill be calling back tomorrow for round two.
dets34 said:
bare with me
Okay i'm extremely fed up. I have had my DX2 for less than a year and I am now just returning my 4th DX2 (will be a total of 5 dx2s) this week for software/hardware related problems. None of this has to do with flashing roms either because the first 3 and possibly the forth i never flashed a single rom. ( mainly because i was to scared)
so here is my question:
in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586153, litetaker explains the process of receiving a phone upgrade after i believe 2 replacements. IM ON MY 5th!!
I would think that they would have mentioned something about receiving a phone upgrade after my 2nd replacement. But it doesn't surprise me that they wouldn't want to give out a free phone after all the news about Verizon no longer offering the unlimited data plan and bottle necking 3g users.
anyways,
can anyone confirm that it is an option to receive and upgraded phone at no extra cost me after 2 replacement phones?
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Hi, I already talked to ya on my other thread you referred to but this is for the benefit of all...
YES! It appears to be a policy on Verizon's side to offer a different model after two replacements of the same if the customer is still unsatisfied. The lady who answered the call and told me the following:
"You haven't reached the threshold where you will be eligible for a different phone. You need to request 2 replacements, so far you only requested one"
However, Verizon will not actively suggest that, unless you get a super nice and sympathetic rep. You must mention it to them and then they will look into it and say, "alright, what would you like!" It worked for me, and several others. And as per the PMs I received from the OP, it seems to be working for him too, who is currently on a customer service call!
So, happy replacing-your-phone-with-a-different-one-and-not-letting-verizon-rip-you-off-ing! (Holy smokes Batman, this concatenated word has 81 characters! )
Cheers!
P.S: I will never "bare" with you. Now matter how nice a person you are, I am NOT getting naked and funky with a dude... If, on the other hand, you are a dudette, then by all means, lets bare together!
litetaker said:
Hi, I already talked to ya on my other thread you referred to but this is for the benefit of all...
YES! It appears to be a policy on Verizon's side to offer a different model after two replacements of the same if the customer is still unsatisfied. The lady who answered the call and told me the following:
"You haven't reached the threshold where you will be eligible for a different phone. You need to request 2 replacements, so far you only requested one"
However, Verizon will not actively suggest that, unless you get a super nice and sympathetic rep. You must mention it to them and then they will look into it and say, "alright, what would you like!" It worked for me, and several others. And as per the PMs I received from the OP, it seems to be working for him too, who is currently on a customer service call!
So, happy replacing-your-phone-with-a-different-one-and-not-letting-verizon-rip-you-off-ing! (Holy smokes Batman, this concatenated word has 81 characters! )
Cheers!
P.S: I will never "bare" with you. Now matter how nice a person you are, I am NOT getting naked and funky with a dude... If, on the other hand, you are a dudette, then by all means, lets bare together!
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well i have the option of getting the droid inc 2 however im on the fence about what to do. im elibible for an upgrade feb of 2013 so maybe i just get the droid inc for the hell of it and then get a better phone in half a year?
dets34 said:
well i have the option of getting the droid inc 2 however im on the fence about what to do. im elibible for an upgrade feb of 2013 so maybe i just get the droid inc for the hell of it and then get a better phone in half a year?
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You can always choose the Dinc2 as it doesn't effect your current upgrade date OR your contract...
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You can always choose the Dinc2 as it doesn't effect your current upgrade date OR your contract...
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i just saw some of the bench mark scores for some of the inc 2 roms...... more than double my x2..... and the amount of roms that are avalible ...... i think the droid inc 2 is looking alot brighter.
how hard was flashing roms on the inc 2. herd it kinda sucks to get used to but after that its easy?
and also whats the battery number seeing as how i have to buy a back and a battery.
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dets34 said:
i just saw some of the bench mark scores for some of the inc 2 roms...... more than double my x2..... and the amount of roms that are avalible ...... i think the droid inc 2 is looking alot brighter.
how hard was flashing roms on the inc 2. herd it kinda sucks to get used to but after that its easy?
and also whats the battery number seeing as how i have to buy a back and a battery.
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Shouldn't be too hard to search for.
Or ask in their forums?
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