Looks like Nokia have made a statment regarding further battery issues. Hopefully this new updates "performance fixes" will include the audio, and other minor visual issues.
Still love this phone even with its issues
http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Nokia-with-Windows-Phone/Nokia-Lumia-800-Nokia-comments-on-battery-life-concerns/td-p/1250749
On Monday 12th December some of our customers started to comment in various social media that the preloaded diagnostics tool in some of the Nokia Lumia 800 phones was showing lower battery capacity than expected. We immediately started to investigate these reports and can now confirm that while the battery itself is fine, a software problem on certain variants is limiting the phone’s ability to access the full battery capacity. We want to stress that this issue has not been found to affect the recently introduced Nokia Lumia 710.
The good news is that as this is a software problem it can be easily resolved. The planned software update in early 2012, as well as including many performance enhancements, will also include a fix that will enable the affected phones to access the total battery capacity. For anyone who does not want to wait for the software update, Nokia can arrange for a replacement phone. Anyone who requires any further clarification should contact Nokia Care (Care contact details and locations can be found at www.Nokia.com/support).
Anyone who wants to know if their phone is affected can run the battery status test from the diagnostics tool already installed on their phone. (The tool is designed for service use and only displays approximate values.) Dialling ##634# opens the diagnostics tool. By accepting the disclaimer and then selecting ‘Battery Status’ from the list of options, anyone will be able to see their available battery charge capacity. If your full charge capacity reads less than 1000 mAh then your phone is affected with this specific issue and you may find it is necessary to charge your phone more frequently than normal. Once the software update has been applied, you should experience much better battery life. In the meantime here are some tips on how to increase your battery performance and you should also make sure you are using the charger that came with the phone, as older chargers may not be as effective at charging the new Nokia Lumia 800.
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Lumia 800 has 1480mAh battery. So it should look something like this:
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Just got the phone today - charging it up now. I'm on the latest firmware and full charge capacity is 1522 mAh
Radek Hulán said:
Lumia 800 has 1480mAh battery. So it should look something like this:
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Hmmm
a) how do you get screenshots?
b) wow charged up full? how?? I've had alot of charge cycles and it charges up to 1292
Since the last firmware update, my status is showing full capacity of 1500-something as well.
Mine was always saying Full charge capacity 1500mAh, but even when I charge it fully, the remaining charge never goes higher than 1200 - even after a night's charge. This is both before and after the update.
Jragar said:
Hmmm
a) how do you get screenshots?
b) wow charged up full? how?? I've had alot of charge cycles and it charges up to 1292
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a) This app works well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316199 - your phone must be unlocked
b) guess there are several Lumia 800 batches, was lucky to get a fixed one, that charges to 1500mAh even without (future) Jan 2012 firmware
Firmware versions:
Radek Hulán said:
a) This app works well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316199 - your phone must be unlocked
b) guess there are several Lumia 800 batches, was lucky to get a fixed one, that charges to 1500mAh even without (future) Jan 2012 firmware
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cheers for that. did you chevron unlock? I used to use that app on my hd7, I thought there was no unlock with the lumia, I guess I forgot about chevron.
I have exactly the same info as you in about - couple of questions, if thats ok, as it is interesting to see we have the same hardware and software revisions, though mine isnt charging up as far
a) do you charge from wall outlet, or pc
b) do you disable radios etc? i notice mine charges up 10mAh higher with 3g off
c) have you done the 10s hold in power key thing recently? i think that resets something, as I used to be able to charge to 1317 but now I cant get that.
It is really intriguing how there can be a 200mAh difference in battery charge on the same handsets, very strange!
I have a dev account on create.msdn.com, so official MS unlock (although Chevron should do the same thing).
a) does not matter, both computer USB and wall charger work well
b) no, 3G on
c) I think I never did that. Is it like a soft-reset?
Friend of mine has Lumia which charges to >1500mAh as well, got it about a week ago, mine is about 3 weeks old.
Fair enough. Mine has just completed charging at 1278. Really doesnt seem right to me, considering we're supposed to be on the same firmware. I'm really not sure I can be bothered hard resetting to see if that makes any difference
I am a SW developer and cannot imagine a bug preventing only certain devices (with identical HW/FW and fully charging ones) to not fully charge... Well, I'd probably try to get a replacement unit.
Radek Hulán said:
I am a SW developer and cannot imagine a bug preventing only certain devices (with identical HW/FW and fully charging ones) to not fully charge... Well, I'd probably try to get a replacement unit.
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Might give it a shot after the next update, cant deal without a phone over christmas!
I remember some people on the nokia forums having issues with it onyl charging up to 99% (like mine) might pm them.
Jragar said:
Fair enough. Mine has just completed charging at 1278. Really doesnt seem right to me, considering we're supposed to be on the same firmware. I'm really not sure I can be bothered hard resetting to see if that makes any difference
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Good point; I just unplugged - it's been reading full for one hour now; and when I did the test again, I have 1312 mAh remaining.. in spite of the 1517 full charge capacity reading.
So hoping this will get better with the January update..
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Mine was always saying Full charge capacity 1500mAh, but even when I charge it fully, the remaining charge never goes higher than 1200 - even after a night's charge. This is both before and after the update.
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Can confirm this happens to me too on a brand new unit that I received today. Full capacity originally showed as 1522mAh, then after a while of charging, went down to 1517mAh. However, the actual charge wont go above 1290mAh.
Very strange... Going to try the chevron unlock tonight. Will report back afterwards
I think that Nokia is lying and it's a HW fault (charging circuit).
somewhere around 1500mah as well. 7740.xxx firmware
My phone has 1512 mAh as well. I bought it unlocked in germany (without carrier branding). I charged it only two times so I'll report if any values should change.
What I don't understand is how some of you guys can charge all the way up to 1500mAh and a lot of us can't get past ~1290mAh. Since getting the phone on Monday, I've gone through 3 - 4 full charge cycles and it's not improving...
OS Version: 7.10.7740.16
Firmware Revision: 1600.2479.7740.11451
Hardware Revision: 112.1402.2.3
Nokia in a statement said the January update will boost the phone from 1300 to 1500 in black and white them figures. They then changed the statement but i lifted it before they did and it in another thread here.
This means they for some reason put something in place to limit the phones to 1300 when there full capacity is 1500. It could be whatever this is that is buggy and thus once they lift it in the update problem solved. This is how it could be a software issue that effects only some handsets. There has to be a reason behind the battery restriction that probably has something to do with passing some regulations and so rushed into place and thus messed up.
lumpaywk said:
Nokia in a statement said the January update will boost the phone from 1300 to 1500 in black and white them figures. They then changed the statement but i lifted it before they did and it in another thread here.
This means they for some reason put something in place to limit the phones to 1300 when there full capacity is 1500. It could be whatever this is that is buggy and thus once they lift it in the update problem solved. This is how it could be a software issue that effects only some handsets. There has to be a reason behind the battery restriction that probably has something to do with passing some regulations and so rushed into place and thus messed up.
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If that were true, then why are some people with the exact same hardware/firmware as my phone getting the full 1500mAh when I only get ~1290mAh...?
Related
This is the stock battery, EP500 Li-Polymer 1200mAh
Code:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/ep500
No memory effect, can charge anytime, full charge obtained on around 3 hours via PC USB port.
Compatibility : Vivaz, Vivaz pro, Xperia mini/pro, Xperia X8
This is the best choice I can find on an alternative battery, claimed to be 2430mAh.
Code:
http://cgi.ebay.com/130561150352
Double the capacity, which I believe should at least provide more juice. Planning to buy, but I suppose since most phones we have are new, we better see what the fully optimal EP500 can do first.
Any other choice and experiences, let us know.
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UPDATE : Based on feedbacks of that battery brand, its highly possible that higher capacity battery is not really accurate. There is no direct feedback on the EP500 replica model though, that remains to be found out. In my opinion, for best case, its high chance its just like the stock battery performance.
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For my personal use, I bought an Energizer AP650.
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Energizer AP650MC Output : DC5V--700mA
On AP650 fully charged (charging LED off) plugged on an off SK17i (died to lack of batt), it will take around 25 mins to drain the AP650 into the SK17i while its turned on, standby idle.
SK17i was able to get 28% charge. From this data, I can say the AP650 can charge the SK17i at the rate of 1% per minute for max of 28 minutes. This means the whole charge of the AP650 can bump the standby (idle) time for at least 12 hours.
I will add more data when I find something of value. Will take actual picture with the phone also.
update: i changed phone already, went back to xperia arc but still sometimes use the energizer.
the alternative battery, is it still have same size with the stock battery ?
from the picture it looks like the same size, else they should provide a new back cover.
Mugenpowerbattery
As it is the same battery like in the SE x8, i suggest to try out this one from Mugenpower:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...nded-battery-for-sony-ericsson-xperia-x8.html
But you only gain +100 mah.
I tried a battery from Mugenpower on my older phone and the quality is good.
But for that price I don't think I am going to buy this one only to gain a little bit more power.
That is a little steep for me. In the 20 range is find but in the 40's for 100 mah more just won't do.
I was looking also on ebay at the 2000 something mah but could you really fit that power capacity in same size battery? Please post any feeds if tested
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so.. anyone has tried it ?
i'm really interested on 2430mAh
i hope the written specs will not lie
Once I begin to feel the itch for the need of longer life I will buy that. But so far for now, I still need to get the feel of the stock batt so we'll have better comparison when time comes. Unless someone here really buys ahead :$
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Packing almost more than the double mAh in the same size seems pretty unrealistic. I think its fake.
I mostly fear that it could damage my phone. Have read that cheap batteries can explode or damage the phone and I have this phone only for a week now and would like to keep it though.
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I had the same thoughts and reservations. But not really to the point that it damages and explodes. Its the authenticity of the claimed capacity is the question.
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jtdc said:
I had the same thoughts and reservations. But not really to the point that it damages and explodes. Its the authenticity of the claimed capacity is the question.
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i agree, you would be shooting in the dark when purchasing this but someone could make the 1st step.
we can see if our battery performance increase over time or i propose donating to the cause, to a credible member and buy one to test it out. just a thought
I'm willing to buy, try and inform you all. Let me settle with the stock batt first if I would need higher capacity, unless someone here buys before me. I would think the capacity may not be necessarily true, but since its double capacity then perhaps we get at least 50% of what it offers right (ie. 25% more juice) compared to stock battery in its worst case, and in that case even it may be acceptable for the price point?
my feel : it seems after some days of getting the hang of the phone battery life, it looks like if doing nothing with the phone at all sit it standby, it easily reaches 2 days of life and can even go for a few hours more but i doubt it will reach 3 days. however, once normally using the phone like browsing wifi, tinkering, etc. it definitely can only max out in less than 2 days. if doing more browsing and use calls, 3G, in one day or less it likely will finish the charge. if straight wifi internet browsing, i doubt this will reach 7 hours max.
perhaps need more cycle charging as phone barely a week old. any other experiences?
Hello guys, i asked mugenpower if they would make a higher capacity battery for the Xperia Mini Pro.
They said that there wont be a battery for the Xperia Mini Pro in the near Future and we have to Stick with the 1300 mAh they are offering for the x8.
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From my latest feel on the stock battery, upon regular use it will only really last 2 days tops. If used a bit more say browsing over wifi, video watching, calling, browsing over 3G, then it would only last like only ~42 hours.
However, I am thinking about an another alternative to the higher capacity battery in question on the first post, yes it is cheap but it is highly likely that it is an impossibility to fit into the size even 50% additional more power into the battery of the same size. Therefore high chance it is fake.
The other alternative I think is just get usual USB portable chargers, the likes of Energizer XPAL. I also noticed the phone charges really fast (ie. 2+ hrs) due to the small battery, so perhaps useful to have it charge even in your bag while commuting hmm?
The phone is compact enough, so bringing an an additional power which can also serve the purpose for other gadgets as well may be an option.
What do you think?
I personally would use the portable charger. I've had horrible experiences with fake batteries, most of the time they don't even last half as long as the OEMs.
Stop, don't buy the 'gold' battery from that seller!
The capacities are fake, I got ripped off myself, the batteries are just normal capacity clones. Look carefully at the negative feedback.
Thanks paul-home. Yes I thoroughly read the feedbacks but the reason I posted that item cos its the only higher capacity batt available. I will edit the 1st post to put a disclaimer.
Anyway, what I am trying to do is just maximize the stock batt, I noticed it lasted really longer when I let it sit on the charger even if it is 100%. The battery status stays at 100% for 6 hours when left on standby. In any case, I am firming my investigation and will recalibrate the battery stats on phone and see how it really goes.
Added data about the Energizer AP650 extended microUSB portable charger on the first post.
Too bad it is fake.
I could use more juice cause i have the wi-fi turned on 24/7.
Would be cool if they made a higher capacity that has the battery and back cover all in one
Like this
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites...b_550_htc-thundertbolt-extended-battery-1.JPG
For the mini pro.
It would also make the phone even thicker
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I really like the battery for this. Charges up really quick and lasts (for me) the full day. I think a better alternative to buying a higher-capacity battery would be to just buy a second official battery and keep it in your watch pocket (the little pocket on the front-right of your jeans) in case of emergencies.
Yes, SGS3 battery is bigger, but the screen is bigger two, 4 cores of CPU and a more power hungry GPU, then Smart Stay eye tracking will be using front camera, that should drain battery as well...
So bigger battery could serve the extra changes from SGS2 and SGS3 would probably stay out of wires or induction charging for the same time as SGS2?
What do you say?
MicroSIM - does it use less power than SIM?
Its actually kinda useless when it comes to discussion like this as no one has the phone in their hands yet. Filling the pages with speculation and assumption will simply set a good/bad reputation to the mobile itself.
Id like to see this thread come alive after the release
cheers
i was getting 30-40 hours out of my gs2 running stock at&t. i would think the gs3 would do the same even with the added goodness. but even with the induction charging... i would imagine we will still need an extra battery or wired charger plugged in. there will always be times when the battery gets low and have to be charged while using it.
The photo I've seen looks like a mini sim, not micro sim.
No idea how the battery would be but the Samsung HK-MG 32nm process looks very promising, based on it's implementation in the iPad2,4 revision. More info:
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s3-secrets-revealed.html
Don't think the "camera tracking" will take up much power either, they could probably just make due with a snapshot every 5 minutes(or when it would normally go into standby) or so and do facial recognition.
I was hoping for a battery close to the RAZR MAXX
Now that the battery is 2100, then i'm hoping that users will be able to control all new features. By that i mean turn them on and off. I really don't care for the many new features that Samsung has come up with. If it was possible I would replace Samsung's modified Android version with a Out of the box version like on Galaxy Nexus. Personally i was hoping that Motorola soon would come out with a new Quad Core phone with their 3300 battery.
Currently the one S with a 2x battery ap holds a decent amount battery battery with smart use of connection and other features by default, so I would have thought that it would work nicely on the bigger sg3. However I'm planning to have a 2nd battery handy and not worry about running out at any point.
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I'm hoping for an extended battery that adds a little to the phone. Maybe a 2750 or even 3300. Also to the gut who said Motorola one with quad. Don't, Motorola is terrible with their lies about bootloaders abd updating.
Samsung does a pretty good job at power management, I think battery life will be good especially with that 2100 Mah battery and the fact that the SoC is based on 32nm so less power used. We should be able to get a full day pretty easily.
Elite49 said:
I'm hoping for an extended battery that adds a little to the phone. Maybe a 2750 or even 3300.
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It could be a problem with batteries made by 3rd parties, as the original SGS3 battery has NFC antenna inside
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I have VERY BAD fealings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfoKoDYD7c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Look at that review: Battery life goes from 92% to 84%...
That means quite nothing (We don't know what they do in cutted frames)... but in my mind I am quite sure that battery life will be even shorter than my LG Optimus 2x (16h with push notific and so on..)
DJ Palmis said:
I have VERY BAD fealings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfoKoDYD7c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Look at that review: Battery life goes from 92% to 84%...
That means quite nothing (We don't know what they do in cutted frames)... but in my mind I am quite sure that battery life will be even shorter than my LG Optimus 2x (16h with push notific and so on..)
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It's over a period of 30 minutes, which seems to suggest an approximate battery lifetime of around 5-6 hours with the display on.
This is not really a bad thing but simply due to powering such a large display, but really most phones seem to get around 5-7 hours these days.
The Galaxy Nexus have the same "problem", but as I recall the Nexus also had some of the best idle/no display battery lifetime i.e. Only taxing antennas and processors.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/14
See the battery lifetime for the gsm version during talk or hotspot sharing the Nexus easily have some of the best performance there.
FISKER_Q said:
It's over a period of 30 minutes, which seems to suggest an approximate battery lifetime of around 5-6 hours with the display on.
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Well I have not looked at the time on display but: Yes, I say that video proves nothing, too.
But, You know, it is the same old story: "nothing special" battery life.
Marketing, specs (Batt. 2100mAh, CPU (32nm, 4 core))..
At the end of the day: Nothing special.
This is the frustrating thing..
DJ Palmis said:
Well I have not looked at the time on display but: Yes, I say that video proves nothing, too.
But, You know, it is the same old story: "nothing special" battery life.
Marketing, specs (Batt. 2100mAh, CPU (32nm, 4 core))..
At the end of the day: Nothing special.
This is the frustrating thing..
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in Moscow there is some mobile analytic(Eldar Murtazin). He using engineering sample of SGS3 for 2 or 3 month. And he noticed, that the battery enough for 10-12 hours of active use, when compared with SGS2 - 5-6 hours, his words
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Much work has been done in terms of energy efficiency, battery 2100 mAh, and the device works like my day with a fairly thick load. What will happen in the commercial samples, I can not judge, more importantly, that time has grown and it is noticeable to the eye. On the other hand, to take advantage of this, it is necessary to disable all of the additional and not very necessary function. They are in the unit, in the opinion of the average user, it became much more.
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http://mobile-review.com/articles/2012/samsung-galaxy-s3.shtml
rtimoff said:
On the other hand, to take advantage of this, it is necessary to disable all of the additional and not very necessary function.
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First of all: thank you very much for this news!
As I said: The same old story!
I like to be able to choose whether or not activate a function.. BUT WHY Samsung put it there?
Marketing!
Even a child would understand that a camera that follows your eyes constantly consumes battery!
Like voice recognition that is only useful to make the bully with friends at the bar.
If it makes you all feel any better I had the one x and even with the retail firmware 1.26 I was getting 12-16 hours with 2-3 hours screen on time with a crap 2g signal using internet regular and with really light use well over a day that was 1800mah battery
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leith51 said:
If it makes you all feel any better I had the one x and even with the retail firmware 1.26 I was getting 12-16 hours with 2-3 hours screen on time with a crap 2g signal using internet regular and with really light use well over a day that was 1800mah battery
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p8.php
rtimoff said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p8.php
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Wots the point ??? I gave you real life usage figures from the one x!!
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leith51 said:
Wots the point ??? I gave you real life usage figures from the one x!!
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The point is in that a sgs3 has better battery stats compared to htc 1x. That's all.
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Hey guys,
Some of you might've seen this on the N7000 threads,
This is to confirm that the same battery is sold to Canada on Ebay, and it works pretty well on the i717.
The battery is called the "3030mAH High Capacity Gold Battery"
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I do not have the test results yet from Battery Monitor Widget, because I don't really know how to do a full MAh test. Maybe someone can enlighten me on this.
Through everyday use however, it does seem to give me an extra 10-15% on the battery (which is around one hour for me).
For those who are interested, order it from this Ebayer:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270942481442?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Ps. The Charger is SLOW though, I usually use it on the other batteries overnight.
Have you had a chance to get numbers from battery widget?
Jamie
I get about 4.5 to 5 hours screen time consistenly with this. The stock gave me about 3.5 to 4 hours.
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supac said:
I get about 4.5 to 5 hours screen time consistenly with this. The stock gave me about 3.5 to 4 hours.
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Any screen shots?
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I have this one and t he 3080 one. Both work ok- not much more lasting than stock. I get 35% by end of the day remaining with moderate use, push email, 10 widgets, and 14 alarms.
I have the 3000mah version from these guys and these are just 2500mah batteries repackaged. I thought that I was getting more battery life too at first, that's mostly because you are trying to justify the purchase subconsciously, but they aren't any bigger and are actually lighter than the stock battery
They do seem like good quality batteries, just not any longer lasting than stock unfortunately.
If it were possible to get a longer lasting battery in this phone that was the same size as the 2500mah one you can be assured Samsung would be selling it as an accessory for $50, people would gladly pay for it... Samsung wouldn't miss out on making extra money on accessories...
omniphil said:
I have the 3000mah version from these guys and these are just 2500mah batteries repackaged. I thought that I was getting more battery life too at first, that's mostly because you are trying to justify the purchase subconsciously, but they aren't any bigger and are actually lighter than the stock battery
They do seem like good quality batteries, just not any longer lasting than stock unfortunately.
If it were possible to get a longer lasting battery in this phone that was the same size as the 2500mah one you can be assured Samsung would be selling it as an accessory for $50, people would gladly pay for it... Samsung wouldn't miss out on making extra money on accessories...
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Actually the one i got is the 3000maharaja version. I will post times at the end of today.
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supac said:
Actually the one i got is the 3000maharaja version. I will post times at the end of today.
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If it truly is a larger battery then it should take at least 30 minutes longer (using the 1 amp wall charger) to charge from dead to full.... But I found that my charge times didn't change any appreciable amount, so the capacity isn't any different...
Here is some times taken when i first received the battery.
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try to peel the sticker and you will see what inside.
pkmoazzam said:
try to peel the sticker and you will see what inside.
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I don't know of this 3000 mAH battery that you are talking about, but I peeled the covering sticker from the Gold battery in the OP, and it doesn't have any markings indicating the capacity.
jamieay said:
Have you had a chance to get numbers from battery widget?
Jamie
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No not yet, haven't found the procedure to measure actual mAH in the battery yet. I have tried charging to 100% and draining it to 1%, but it doesn't show the information automatically.
so its not really 3030mah ?????????? thats been proven?
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so its not really 3030mah ?????????? thats been proven?
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It doesn't take any longer to charge from empty than the stock battery does, so Its not any larger. My charge times were within 10 minutes of each other when comparing to stock.
Ebay batteries that are the exact same dimensions as stock but claim to deliver more capacity than the stock battery are pretty much always lying about capacity. Its all marketing. If the battery was heavier than stock I might say it could deliver more capacity, but they are usually lighter.
There is an app on the market called battery drain...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...fender&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
Be careful using this, it will drain the battery VERY fast, potentially heating up the battery to beyond safe temparatures. DONT SELECT EVERY OPTION!!!
Here are the options you can select to have it do all at once.
-Turns on Permanent Vibration
-Enables Wifi Send Data
-Constantly Max Loads CPU
-Sets Screen Brightness to Maximum
-Enables GPS Location Services and Constantly asks Device to Refresh Position
-Turns on Camera Flash
-Turns on Bluetooth and Constantly Scans for New Devices
I would also grab battery monitor widget pro by 3C (the paid version is $4) or another battery app that has detailed logging.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNjYzcxLmJtdy5wcm8iXQ..
Consistency is the key, what I would do is power down the phone and let the battery completely charge (use the volume rockers to turn the screen occasionally to see the battery charge level, its fully charged when there is a 100% shown inside the green battery).
Set the battery logging app and the battery drain apps either on the lockscreen if you have something like widget locker or set them on the first homescreen that appears on an initial boot so you can access them quickly.
Then unplug the phone, note the current time (open the clock on your PC for seconds), power the phone up, wait a set amount of time (say 1 minute from when you initially turn the phone on) and launch the battery drain app, turn on maybe 4-5 of the options (dont use all of them, you dont want to damage the battery), say max screen brightness, camera flash, wifi, bluetooth, & GPS and wait til the battery dies and note the time when it dies (shouldnt take more than 1 hour).
You can test each battery this way (make sure you pick the same options in the battery drain app) and if you have an app doing battery logging, you can pull up the stats after the phone dies and you plug in the charger to reboot it.
Its also key that nothing changes (dont install any new apps or remove any apps) between testing. What most testers do is factory reset the phone, leave all the settings at stock and install only the apps they need for testing. This might be a bit extreme, the key tho is to have consistency.
Using both batteries and testing them in this fashion would give more information rather than anecdotal. However, I can understand that it is a time consuming process.
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Actually the one i got is the 3000maharaja version. I will post times at the end of today.
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Do you have a link for this version?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1565122
I already did a review on this battery.
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Okay guys,
I have reallly strange problem now ! I know battery discharges when you play games or run high processing apps but the story is a little different here. My phone rather discharges faster when it is plugged-in then unplugged, it is weird right ? Unfortunately this happens anytime on my phone, ex:- while switch on-screenon , switchon - screenoff , in recovery , even when it is power-off and charging! I have tried fleet of different charges like wall chargers (3 of them), travel adaptors with different usb cables. Wall charges are rated at 1A and travel adaptors at 0.7A. All of them are official samsung equipments (including usb cables) At the moment only one wall charger is able to charge my phone properly that too seems to be dying! Rest of these chargers are now penniless for my phone although they are working fine on others samsung devices at home.
One thing I have noticed that when my phone is been discharge while plugged-in it doesn't become hot and temps vary between 29c-34c. On the other hand when it is actually charging while plugged-in ( which is a rare case now) it becomes a little hot amd temps vary between 35c-41c.
On both occasion I can see the charging sign. So, to tackle this weird behavior I had recently downloaded battery monitor widget.
Despite, it won't show mA readings. It is still usefull. I started monitoring voltage and came to conclusion.
● When my phone battery actually getting charged, voltage vary between 3, 730 to upwards of 4, 000mv
● When it discharges while plugged-in (showing me fake charging sign!) Voltages hover around in 3600 - 3660 range.
I don't think voltage has anything to do with battery % ( like some people says, voltage would be around 4200mv when it 100% charged) my voltage used to be around 4000mv even when it is 100% charged.)
These mV reading fluctuates alot ! Like at 20% sometimes it shows 4082mv but sometimes it show less than 3600mv. Why is this ?
There is no dust or whatsoever in the microusb port of my phone. I just have to push charger cable down to charge my phone (which sometimes don't work --you know it also discharges most of the time while plugged-in)
Seriously what should I do ? Is there any kernal where I could raise voltage to something steady like 4000mv ?
I am lost ! Please help !
Let me know if you need any additional info !
-chairmansaab
UPDATE: So, I have found a temporary solution. Thanks to GM Siyah kernal I was able to get mA reading support on current widget.
It seems like when I push down the charger cable a little bit, it doesn't provide enough current to charge phone , so battery level decreases instead.
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But when I push cable real hard to the right side. It gives out reasonable current. It is a pain in @$$ to charge this phone now, I had to put some weigh on the cable to charge it to 100% !
I guess usb port is the culprit ? Anyone know how much it would cost to replace the USB board ? (Out of warranty now!)
Chairmansaab said:
UPDATE: So, I have found a temporary solution. Thanks to GM Siyah kernal I was able to get mA reading support on current widget.
It seems like when I push down the charger cable a little bit, it doesn't provide enough current to charge phone , so battery level decreases instead.
But when I push cable real hard to the right side. It gives out reasonable current. It is a pain in @$$ to charge this phone now, I had to put some weigh on the cable to charge it to 100% !
I guess usb port is the culprit ? Anyone know how much it would cost to replace the USB board ? (Out of warranty now!)
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first try to see u can get hold of another battery (may be on from ur friends S2) and see if the same issue persists for u on that batt also, so that u can conclude its not a batt issue for u
if there is the same issue, then u can try replacing the 'microUSB' port which might cost u around 500~800 Rs for sure (please verify with a nearest samsung service center for the exact cahrges).
Replace the USB board yourself. Quick/cheap/easy to do. A number of threads on here over the past month or so about this (what part you need to order for which SGS2 variant/pics/etc), search for those & then look on eBay/Google search to find someone who sells the part.
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first try to see u can get hold of another battery (may be on from ur friends S2) and see if the same issue persists for u on that batt also, so that u can conclude its not a batt issue for u
if there is the same issue, then u can try replacing the 'microUSB' port which might cost u around 500~800 Rs for sure (please verify with a nearest samsung service center for the exact charges).
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Damn bro, you are the only one who always reply my post !
Unfortunately, there is no one around me having Galaxy S2 or R.
Even the "nearest service center" is 50KM drive. I guess its only microusb that is giving me this problem cause I can charge battery 100% without any issue (just have to position it in wierd angle)
Are you sure its around 500-800Rs ? Last time I heard someone said it is 6500Rs !!
@MistahBungle yup bro, but I don't know which revision of usb port os installed on mine. I think there are 3-4 microusb board out there.
Is there any way to find board rev with software?
I just told you how in my PP. Search through KeithRoss39's recent posts.
I've seen reference to a couple different batteries that should fit/work, for those looking to replace the battery for one reason or another and figured I'd consolidate things here...
http://planetfon.ru/akkumuljator-li-pol---3-7v--5000mah_l238
http://www.allbatteries.co.uk/tablet-battery-3-8v-5100mah-tml90080.html
The challenge being for some that neither of those will ship to the US (no one will internationally probably, because of our lipo shipping restrictions).
Anyone found a supplier in the states with something similar?
My main worry would be: how do we know that the replacement battery we buy from some obscure online store is any safer than the original faulty battery?
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My main worry would be: how do we know that the replacement battery we buy from some obscure online store is any safer than the original faulty battery?
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You don't. But since my old tablet's battery got bloated, I'd rather take my chances with a dubious china battery...
BTW: Anyone knows a compatible battery obtainable in Germany?
@ slideyneez: Where did you get the link to the battery from allbatteries.co.uk from?
I found a battery that someone posted that should work and is found through AliExpress so they ship worldwide
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/2034516438.html
Battery specs
That'S great!
Anybody has original battery specs that we can compare?
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That'S great!
Anybody has original battery specs that we can compare?
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/8296/the-nvidia-shield-tablet-review
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...eep-your-recalled-tablet-can-you-fix-it-tut-/
Here are some options too!
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[email protected] slideyneez: Where did you get the link to the battery from allbatteries.co.uk from?
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Over in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62442239&postcount=336
Allbatteries looked to have the same thing (and even the same website design, maybe they are related), and was in a more convenient language so I cited that one.
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That'S great!
Anybody has original battery specs that we can compare?
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Here's the specs of my "firehazard" battery.
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https://forums.geforce.com/default/...eep-your-recalled-tablet-can-you-fix-it-tut-/
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Ain't that battery got a bit too low voltage? The original battery is a 3.9v, but the one he shows is a 3.7v
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Ain't that battery got a bit too low voltage? The original battery is a 3.9v, but the one he shows is a 3.7v
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0.2V isn't a significant difference for a whole battery pack - tolerances can easily lead to the same difference (+ or -).
FYI, the official replacement B01 battery is rated at 3.8V.
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Here's the specs of my "firehazard" battery.
Ain't that battery got a bit too low voltage? The original battery is a 3.9v, but the one he shows is a 3.7v
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That is not how these batteries work all lipo are 3.7v unless they have multiple cells in series then the voltage goes up in increments of 3.7
Also it should be known that a fully charged lipo will read 4.2v and a discharged will read 3-3.3v
The fire hazard with these is likely 2-fold 1 the charge and protection circuit has a flaw that allows the battery beyond a threshold either voltage or temp paired with a bad cell this had a bad habit of catastrophic failures. This is likely why nvidia opted to brick tablets rather than open them and swap the batteries and resell them as refurbished.
Btw that is what I would have done everyone got a k1 style tablet where the package had nothing but the new tablet inside was a return label and the procedure would have been factory reset tablet then package just the tablet no stylus no accessories. As the tablet you would get would be in a similar state... except the stylus slot might have a rubber plug...
Alright.
But has anyone tried a third party battery by now without any issues? For example the aliexpress one? Cause my old shield tablet is still off and awaiting a new battery and a kernel change because the tablet initially awaits the kernel killer to kill off the old one.
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Alright.
But has anyone tried a third party battery by now without any issues? For example the aliexpress one? Cause my old shield tablet is still off and awaiting a new battery and a kernel change because the tablet initially awaits the kernel killer to kill off the old one.
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Well that depends what you call issues there are several in this thread that reported that the battery did not last as long that is not really what I would call an issue as the original battery was 5200mAh they put a 4250 in or even a 4000 that should last less it is an expected result...
But that said my previous post was a warning against this as the faulty bits might be part of the charging and protection circuit on the battery. Particularly the control chip that runs the sensors and the charging regulator.
Anyone do this yet I bought a LTE model and the battery is seriously eroded.
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Anyone do this yet I bought a LTE model and the battery is seriously eroded.
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My post right above yours I did the reading for you the people using the Nexus 7 4250 mAh cell reported that it worked but with an expectedly shorter run time. As loosing about 1000 mAh is a noticeable drop.
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My post right above yours I did the reading for you the people using the Nexus 7 4250 mAh cell reported that it worked but with an expectedly shorter run time. As loosing about 1000 mAh is a noticeable drop.
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Interesting well I found a few batteries that have 5000mah. Not sure if they would work.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...0.H0.X5000mah.TRS2&_nkw=5000mah&_sacat=180235
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Interesting well I found a few batteries that have 5000mah. Not sure if they would work.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...0.H0.X5000mah.TRS2&_nkw=5000mah&_sacat=180235
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In theory you could replace the pack with a bank of 14500 cells. As long as it was a 1s?p arrangement it means 1 series any number in parallel series is voltage and parallel would be capacity and amperage.
The procedure given to replace the battery packs in these tablets involves removing the charging/protection from the original pack and soldering the new pack to the old batteries solder points. So any bare lithium ion pack that is 1s?p configuration should work if it fits. 3.5mm 64 mm 150 mm is the 3 measurements for the OEM pack