Will doing an update from kias from pc, basically I think its a firmwire update, will it remove root from my phone?
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If you're rooted kies won't let you update. You would have to unroot and then upgrade with kies which is probably not worth the hassle as the custom roms on xda are probably far better than what is available on kies.
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Its my first android phone, and I hear cyanogen does not fully support SGS2 yet, and that it does not have hardware acceleration. So if ice cream sandwich is released, how can I update? I heard 2.3.6 or 5 is already out for SGS2.
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Most of the custom roms on xda are 2.3.6. Cyanogen will probably release ics first and then you will see it appear on xda. There are a couple of ics developer leaks but they are buggy. It could be as late as April before you see an official release mybe longer for some carriers.
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marcadam said:
If you're rooted kies won't let you update. You would have to unroot and then upgrade with kies which is probably not worth the hassle as the custom roms on xda are probably far better than what is available on kies.
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Why ? My SGS2 rooted using zergrush method connects flawlessly to Kies, and software version is displayed correctly. I think that if phone is only rooted and not flashed with some PDA/PHONE/CSC combination that is unknown for KIES it can be upgraded this way, but of course root will be lost, so IMHO Mobile Odin with everroot will be far better way.
@marcadam: wat is ics?
@slig: wat is everroot? Is it like u wont loose root ever again? How do I get that?
Sorry im still kinda new to android, after days of research I found n used cfroot to root my fone... Didnt try any other sort of hack yet...
Thanks alot both of u...
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rez1 said:
@marcadam: wat is ics?
@slig: wat is everroot? Is it like u wont loose root ever again? How do I get that?
Sorry im still kinda new to android, after days of research I found n used cfroot to root my fone... Didnt try any other sort of hack yet...
Thanks alot both of u...
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1. Root will be lost, if you flash a new rom (unless its a non-wipe rom)
2. ICS(Ice Cream Sandwich) is the newest android version, also called "Android 4.0".
3. "Mobile Odin with everroot" he mentioned is an app that is installed on your phone, wich does exactly the same as the flashing Software(Odin) on your computer, wich you used, to flash a custom rom.
4. I don't suggest, updating with Kies, because many people reported, that it bricked their phones.
I suggest, that you flash CWM(Clockworkmod Recovery) on your phone, and use that(Its the most popular way to update/flash/backup/restore a ROM).
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I suggest, that you flash CWM(Clockworkmod Recovery) on your phone, and use that(Its the most popular way to update/flash/backup/restore a ROM).
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Is it possible to flash stock Samsung roms via CWM ? I thought that CWM is for flashing customs, original stocks can be flashed only by Odin (or Kies).
If the rom is made for flashing with CWM then yes. (Most rom's are made for flashing with CWM) if you can't find a cwm compatible stock version, then i can upload you one I made(newest stock version 100% stock).
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Hi there, i got a question related to this problem
when i rooted my phone i uninstalled kies because i had no use of it
my father just got a sgs2 and want to have it rooted
will i loose the other functions of kies when rooted ?
(I mean contacts won't sync in kies and other things like this eg. music?)
Nikueltrasgu said:
Hi there, i got a question related to this problem
when i rooted my phone i uninstalled kies because i had no use of it
my father just got a sgs2 and want to have it rooted
will i loose the other functions of kies when rooted ?
(I mean contacts won't sync in kies and other things like this eg. music?)
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No you lose nothing in KIES and dependant upon codes you may even get an update .
But why root unless an app requires root .
jje
JJEgan said:
No you lose nothing in KIES and dependant upon codes you may even get an update .
But why root unless an app requires root .
jje
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because carriers from my country add loads of bloatware that are useless and crashing a lot so cleaning up a bit isn't bad
thanks for the quick answer btw
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Very sorry if this is a stupid question.
My Dad has a SGS2. I rooted it for him, and installed SpeedMod Kernel for him (way back in October)
He is currently running 2.3.4.
The ICS OTA / Kies or whatever, is coming soon.
Will he still be able to upgrade his phone whilst rooted?
Will the update perform successfully?
Will he lose data?
I'm asking because on other devices (HTC), if you perform a official update when you are rooted, it results in a bricked phone!
Thanks!
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Very sorry if this is a stupid question.
My Dad has a SGS2. I rooted it for him, and installed SpeedMod Kernel for him (way back in October)
He is currently running 2.3.4.
The ICS OTA / Kies or whatever, is coming soon.
Will he still be able to upgrade his phone whilst rooted?
Will the update perform successfully?
Will he lose data?
I'm asking because on other devices (HTC), if you perform a official update when you are rooted, it results in a bricked phone!
Thanks!
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Not sure myself to be honest but the best thing to do is wait till you read from here that the official roms have been released through KIES. Then unroot your dad's phone and then feel free to upgrade then once you are unrooted and back to official stock firmware.
If you're still running stock firmware, you should still be able to get Kies upgrades. Obviously if you upgrade via Kies your phone will be unrooted as a stock kernel will overwrite your existing kernel.
If you find you are unable to get Kies updates, you will have to flash stock firmware back on to the phone as suggested by my learned colleague, Mr Suarez, before you can upgrade via Kies.
Any upgrade via Kies shouldn't result in loss of data unless you get a message before you begin the process that says you will lose data. Tho obviously backing up anything/everything important before upgrading is obviously recommended.
I see you're looking for ironclad guarantees about a couple of things, and frankly, when you start running non-stock firmware on your phone you should expect these to go out the window, i.e there aren't any (and even when you are running stock nothing is absolutely guaranteed).
Better not to tempt fate IMHO.
Many thanks for the replies fellas!
I appreciate it
Thanks for tips!
Yeah, I guess I'll do a NANDroid backup too...
TBH, I don't think my Dad is too bothered about being rooted on ICS, so it doesn't matter if he loses root.
On Gingerbread now, he doesn't use many root apps, apart from SetCPU and adfree.
But thanks for the helpful advice guys!
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OK, sorry for the bump.
My Dad is still running the same setup 2.3.4 & SpeedMod kernel. The kies isn't detecting the phone...
But today he got the OTA notification to update ICS directly on his phone.
Is it safe to do it? So the update will override the SpeedMod kernel, but the phone will still boot and work fine? Not bothered about losing root - just want to know the upgrade will be successful.
Anyone can clarify please? I've done a NAND back up to be safe. the worse for worse - do i just restore the backup?
P.S - I have CWM on it - will that effect it?
Can't say, but should be ok, worst case you cab flash back using Odin if something happens.
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Didn't work for me.
I had flashed the leaked release of ICS onto my phone and so when the official release came out I went straight to the OTA update (I'm on O2 in the UK) And the there was no available update (However my Dad also has the S2 and it wasn't there for him either).
So I tried the kies software to only find it gave me a message saying my phone wasn't supported/update not available for phone. It did however allow my dads stock firmware to be.
Hope that helps and you might have better luck but it will remove any root you have because I'm pretty sure it also updates the Kernel.
Thanks a lot guys! I used ODIN to flash the latest ICS version - all good now! He is unrooted, but still had CWM, so can he still receive future OTA's and make NANDroids?
You need root in order for CWM to work and for you to make a backup. Here is my guide to rooting your phone again. Very simple: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625184
Chris.
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themadba said:
You need root in order for CWM to work and for you to make a backup. Here is my guide to rooting your phone again. Very simple: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625184
Chris.
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Oh, ok, So now he has stock recovery on his phone after flashing the new update? (I haven't checked the recovery yet!) It had CWM before on 2.3.4
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Oh, ok, So now he has stock recovery on his phone after flashing the new update? (I haven't checked the recovery yet!) It had CWM before on 2.3.4
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Yes, when you update your phone you would have lost root and CWM. Just use the guide I posted above to regain root and CWM so your dad that can make his NANDroid backups.
Chris.
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themadba said:
Yes, when you update your phone you would have lost root and CWM. Just use the guide I posted above to regain root and CWM so your dad that can make his NANDroid backups.
Chris.
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Ok, thanks a lot Chris, I appreciate the effort
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can anyone tell me what the latest firmware is for a uk gs3 on orange.
How can i check what i have..i cant seem to find an option to 'check for update' like i had on my htc?
do i have to download and install samsung kies to do updates?
really hoping there is something out to solve some of the freezing and other issues i am having.
thanks
Install kies
Connect ur phone to pc
Let it check for updates
If there is a new update it will let u know
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It should have the option in Settings/About device/Software update, but should use Kies anyway, and latest UK version is 4.0.4
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It should have the option in Settings/About device/Software update, but should use Kies anyway, and latest UK version is 4.0.4
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dose not have the option there although under 'about device' it says android version 4.04
build imm76d.19300bvale4
Hardly any updates on the servers yet .
Use CHECKFUS .
jje
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Hardly any updates on the servers yet .
Use CHECKFUS .
jje
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Evening John, what do you think of your new tool?
www.samfirmware.com
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when i connect to kies it says i have the lateset firmware
phone is really buggy and needs sorting asap. Poor effort from samsung i feel...i personally think its a quad core thing as i had similar issues with my htc one x and got rid of it in a few days. My htc ones s however is the quickest and most sold performing handset ive ever had.
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when i connect to kies it says i have the lateset firmware
phone is really buggy and needs sorting asap. Poor effort from samsung i feel...i personally think its a quad core thing as i had similar issues with my htc one x and got rid of it in a few days. My htc ones s however is the quickest and most sold performing handset ive ever had.
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As previously suggested, try other firmware. Forget Kies, its crap and only check for updates for your specific firmware, not elsewhere.
Try the link above i posted or http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300here for newer releases.
Just follow the guide by Intratech (he also has some official firmware) for flashing with Odin. Could not be simpler. Just backup anything to PC before hand, and then follow instructions exactly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671969
You're welcome
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There's a widget called "software updates" that comes with the phone
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UpInTheAir said:
As previously suggested, try other firmware. Forget Kies, its crap and only check for updates for your specific firmware, not elsewhere.
Try the link above i posted or http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300here for newer releases.
Just follow the guide by Intratech (he also has some official firmware) for flashing with Odin. Could not be simpler. Just backup anything to PC before hand, and then follow instructions exactly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671969
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really appreciate your help with this but just have a couple more questions
i assume that with odin i can flash any of the firmwares and it dosent matter that my phone is locked to orange (well i believe it is). The phone itself has no orange branding or apps installed.
The other thing i am not sure about is which firmware i should use for a uk handset on orange. If i use a generic firmware will that cause problems with the radio's etc?
The other thing is how do i know what the latest is...i mean i might already have it on my device....it says i have 4.04 on it but are there various versions of this?
Sorry if it seems im being lazy about this but just want to be sure i am using the right one.
thanks again for your help
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really appreciate your help with this but just have a couple more questions
i assume that with odin i can flash any of the firmwares and it dosent matter that my phone is locked to orange (well i believe it is). The phone itself has no orange branding or apps installed.
The other thing i am not sure about is which firmware i should use for a uk handset on orange. If i use a generic firmware will that cause problems with the radio's etc?
The other thing is how do i know what the latest is...i mean i might already have it on my device....it says i have 4.04 on it but are there various versions of this?
Sorry if it seems im being lazy about this but just want to be sure i am using the right one.
thanks again for your help
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I believe so, should be same as SGS2. Phone lock should be "sim" lock not locked bootloader.
You can flash the modem or kernel as individual packages if need be.
In phone dialer, *#1234#
Ie. Firmware ending in LE7 is older than LE8
Don't forget to backup anything important to PC first. Best to factory reset first in recovery and then immediately boot into download mode to flash. Follow Intratech guide exactly and shouldn't be a problem.
Just make sure you flash any full package as .tar.md5 file. Zip won't work with Odin.
For thanks if you feel like it
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So...I returned my phone to stock, which was a nightmare because I already had a devs ICS and the instructions (for returning to stock) are for UCKH7...got endless errors and whatnot...
Finally figure it out. So now I'm back to 2.3.6 and I figured I connect to Kies and get the At&t ICS version. No problem...got it!
Now...if I want to root it and instal cwm, how would I do it? I mean the methods at the dev section are for the gingerbread os, right?
Any help will be appreciated. :good:
just flash a kernel with Odin. Far as I know it should work fine. Then again I haven't had to do it for a long while.
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Read this
[Directory]AT&T I777 GSll {roms,kernels,tools}
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301682
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paleman27 said:
So...I returned my phone to stock, which was a nightmare because I already had a devs ICS and the instructions (for returning to stock) are for UCKH7...got endless errors and whatnot...
Finally figure it out. So now I'm back to 2.3.6 and I figured I connect to Kies and get the At&t ICS version. No problem...got it!
Now...if I want to root it and instal cwm, how would I do it? I mean the methods at the dev section are for the gingerbread os, right?
Any help will be appreciated. :good:
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If I were you I would stay away from the At&t ICS version read this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757972
This is MUCH safer read this thread.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
EDIT: After a little more thought if I were you I wouldn't do anything else to your phone since you already flashed the kernel with the 99% confirmed eMMC "superbrick" bug (see the first link) until you research the best way, least possible chance to bricking your phone... Maybe Entropy512 can help with the best way to flash a new package!! GL if anything ever did happen I sure hope Samsung would give you a replacement.....
Another question (might be related)
Hey all,
I have just got a brand new i777, I just wanted to upgrade it to ICS and sim-unlock it.
The upgrade is to be done through kies, no problem in that.
The sim-unlocking is the issue .. i know it was easy in gingerbread to root and use herlroz app .. but now is there an easy way without using ODIN or flashing a kernel to sim-unlock this phone on the official ICS ?
xda-Newbie said:
Hey all,
I have just got a brand new i777, I just wanted to upgrade it to ICS and sim-unlock it.
The upgrade is to be done through kies, no problem in that.
The sim-unlocking is the issue .. i know it was easy in gingerbread to root and use herlroz app .. but now is there an easy way without using ODIN or flashing a kernel to sim-unlock this phone on the official ICS ?
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besides the free SIM unlock app on the market?
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Phalanx7621 said:
besides the free SIM unlock app on the market?
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that was very xda-newbie from me
My phone is GT-i9300, original stock ROM is ICS, and i have update to JB through OTA which give me XXDLJ1.
Then I root my phone by :-
1. download mode, flash CF auto root via Odin.
2. restart, install Triangle Away and reset the flash counter back
I just want to have root.
So, the question is, why I'm getting "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available"
If root , then can not check for OTA update anymore?
Or is there any other way? To have root only and everything else like just stock and can check/download OTA again in the future.
Thanks in advance XDA
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If root , then can not check for OTA update anymore?
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Thats right.
But if youre on xda why do you want the OTA update anymore? Just flash a stock rom, update via odin as and when a new stock rom is available and root each time.
syamsoul said:
My phone is GT-i9300, original stock ROM is ICS, and i have update to JB through OTA which give me XXDLJ1.
Then I root my phone by :-
1. download mode, flash CF auto root via Odin.
2. restart, install Triangle Away and reset the flash counter back
I just want to have root.
So, the question is, why I'm getting "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available"
If root , then can not check for OTA update anymore?
Or is there any other way? To have root only and everything else like just stock and can check/download OTA again in the future.
Thanks in advance XDA
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Thats a question that I was about to ask. . I'm having a few problems with my S3, and I want to correct them but I need root.
I also want to keep it stock, I was a flash addicted with my previous phone, but now I don't have time and I just want something that works, and I want also to be able to check for updates. .
Looking forward to more replies.
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yugoport said:
Thats a question that I was about to ask. . I'm having a few problems with my S3, and I want to correct them but I need root.
I also want to keep it stock, I was a flash addicted with my previous phone, but now I don't have time and I just want something that works, and I want also to be able to check for updates. .
Looking forward to more replies.
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As I understood, you won't get OTA updates if rooted whereas you can get updates via kies. Flashing them will remove root though.
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skimminstones said:
Thats right.
But if youre on xda why do you want the OTA update anymore? Just flash a stock rom, update via odin as and when a new stock rom is available and root each time.
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Thanks for replying,
I'm coming from Galaxy S1, to S2 and now S3, and Samsung is not the same anymore for me, They really listen to the customer, and always improve their UI and apps. S3 is a solution/improvement for all S2 n S1 complaints.
So, it is really nice to see some app/mod which originate from here at first, been integrate to stock rom of s3 e.g. the toggle, n the lack of led light of s2 n s1
Btw, development means, to make something unusable to become usable,, to make something good to be better.
I think, it is really convenience to just have OTA instead need to find a PC just to hv update.
As my S2, i gain root just by flashing temp CWM recovery through stock 3e recovery n then flash root. It simple as that.
yugoport said:
Thats a question that I was about to ask. . I'm having a few problems with my S3, and I want to correct them but I need root.
I also want to keep it stock, I was a flash addicted with my previous phone, but now I don't have time and I just want something that works, and I want also to be able to check for updates. .
Looking forward to more replies.
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same as me...
thanks for bump
chrismast said:
As I understood, you won't get OTA updates if rooted whereas you can get updates via kies. Flashing them will remove root though.
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So what exactly is the cause for cannot have OTA update. Is it because su binary in system/app or something else..
Thanks in advance
syamsoul said:
So what exactly is the cause for cannot have OTA update. Is it because su binary in system/app or something else..
Thanks in advance
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I guess it is the device status "modified". If I understood well you can only get "original" when you flash a stock rom and unroot but please correct me if I am wrong as I never went back to original state till now.
chrismast said:
I guess it is the device status "modified". If I understood well you can only get "original" when you flash a stock rom and unroot but please correct me if I am wrong as I never went back to original state till now.
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Yes you are correct, if your phone is rooted it'll show modified no matter what you do.
syamsoul said:
I think, it is really convenience to just have OTA instead need to find a PC just to hv update.
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just how often do you think an OTA update is pushed out?
Just use mobile odin if you want to flash any stock roms without needing a pc. Youll get the update far quicker via xda/sammobile than waiting for an OTA one anyway
I recently got a i717 note, and I saw on drippler that yesterday the official 4.1.2 update was released may 3 yesterday, and I was wondering if it was possible if I can get the update without having a PC, cause I don't have one at the moment, my phone isn't rooted, help plz and thanks, I have kies air btw but no pc
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_fly said:
I recently got a i717 note, and I saw on drippler that yesterday the official 4.1.2 update was released may 3 yesterday, and I was wondering if it was possible if I can get the update without having a PC, cause I don't have one at the moment, my phone isn't rooted, help plz and thanks, I have kies air btw but no pc
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You will need a PC. If you were rooted you could download the flashable zip and have it. But again you need a PC to root!
Sorry!
So you don't know anyone with a PC?
You don't need to be rooted to flash the zip version -- you just need CWR or TWRP.
So, have you installed a recovery?
I havn't installed recovery yet, im new to this, but do I download a recovery and then once I do this, what would I use to flash? Ty
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Another thing, I searched in clock work recovery and can't find dl link for it, if you could help with a link, thanks
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From a pure stock phone:
Plan A: Download Kies software (google for it). Install Kies software, connect phone to pc, and let the phone upgrade to 4.1.2. Phone will be pure stock JB.
Plan B: Download JB update file from development section. Download Odin3 software - find it by googling "odin3 1.85". Then run odin software, reboot phone in download mode, connect to pc, and install JB update. Phone will be pure stock JB.
Plan C: Wait a few days and you will get a software update notification. Accept the terms, and phone will update itself to pure stock JB.
If you don't have access to a pc you will have to wait a few. The last ICS update took only four days to hit the phones after the release on the world wide interweb.
I updated but its really not different than 4.0.4 ICS . . . No new features but lots of extra bloatware from at&t.
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I see u
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Will I get the update if my phone has no service? And do I need to be rooted in order to use odin? Thanks to all that helped I will wait until the update is released on my phone since I don't have a PC
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Of course you need signal for your phone to know it has an update...
No you do not need root to use Odin. In fact, you use Odin TO root.
can I get the update over WI-Fi connection is what I meant sorry.
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It is highly doubtful that this update will be released as an OTA. Better start looking for a PC or go to a friends house.
Why not, Amigo? And do you think that will leave out Canadian phones too?
Almost 800MBs is quite high for an OTA update especially since this is a totally new OS with different partitioning. More likely it will be a Kies update only. Should be no difference for Canadian versions once released. Time will tell and this is only my educated guess by experience. I know I have read that it can be received OTA but nobody that I have seen has reported it yet.
Probably right. But at&t could break the update into two parts. They did that on a big windows phone update a few years ago. Just a speculation.
I know at least telus made the ics update ota..
It's doable, not even that outlandish really, cause Going from ics to jb would be pretty much the same as gingerbread to ics...
oem roms of all 3 android versions have been relatively the same size and partitioning can be done on device within the update script.
It being possible and them doing it are different arguments though lol