Very sorry if this is a stupid question.
My Dad has a SGS2. I rooted it for him, and installed SpeedMod Kernel for him (way back in October)
He is currently running 2.3.4.
The ICS OTA / Kies or whatever, is coming soon.
Will he still be able to upgrade his phone whilst rooted?
Will the update perform successfully?
Will he lose data?
I'm asking because on other devices (HTC), if you perform a official update when you are rooted, it results in a bricked phone!
Thanks!
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olyloh6696 said:
Very sorry if this is a stupid question.
My Dad has a SGS2. I rooted it for him, and installed SpeedMod Kernel for him (way back in October)
He is currently running 2.3.4.
The ICS OTA / Kies or whatever, is coming soon.
Will he still be able to upgrade his phone whilst rooted?
Will the update perform successfully?
Will he lose data?
I'm asking because on other devices (HTC), if you perform a official update when you are rooted, it results in a bricked phone!
Thanks!
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Not sure myself to be honest but the best thing to do is wait till you read from here that the official roms have been released through KIES. Then unroot your dad's phone and then feel free to upgrade then once you are unrooted and back to official stock firmware.
If you're still running stock firmware, you should still be able to get Kies upgrades. Obviously if you upgrade via Kies your phone will be unrooted as a stock kernel will overwrite your existing kernel.
If you find you are unable to get Kies updates, you will have to flash stock firmware back on to the phone as suggested by my learned colleague, Mr Suarez, before you can upgrade via Kies.
Any upgrade via Kies shouldn't result in loss of data unless you get a message before you begin the process that says you will lose data. Tho obviously backing up anything/everything important before upgrading is obviously recommended.
I see you're looking for ironclad guarantees about a couple of things, and frankly, when you start running non-stock firmware on your phone you should expect these to go out the window, i.e there aren't any (and even when you are running stock nothing is absolutely guaranteed).
Better not to tempt fate IMHO.
Many thanks for the replies fellas!
I appreciate it
Thanks for tips!
Yeah, I guess I'll do a NANDroid backup too...
TBH, I don't think my Dad is too bothered about being rooted on ICS, so it doesn't matter if he loses root.
On Gingerbread now, he doesn't use many root apps, apart from SetCPU and adfree.
But thanks for the helpful advice guys!
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OK, sorry for the bump.
My Dad is still running the same setup 2.3.4 & SpeedMod kernel. The kies isn't detecting the phone...
But today he got the OTA notification to update ICS directly on his phone.
Is it safe to do it? So the update will override the SpeedMod kernel, but the phone will still boot and work fine? Not bothered about losing root - just want to know the upgrade will be successful.
Anyone can clarify please? I've done a NAND back up to be safe. the worse for worse - do i just restore the backup?
P.S - I have CWM on it - will that effect it?
Can't say, but should be ok, worst case you cab flash back using Odin if something happens.
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Didn't work for me.
I had flashed the leaked release of ICS onto my phone and so when the official release came out I went straight to the OTA update (I'm on O2 in the UK) And the there was no available update (However my Dad also has the S2 and it wasn't there for him either).
So I tried the kies software to only find it gave me a message saying my phone wasn't supported/update not available for phone. It did however allow my dads stock firmware to be.
Hope that helps and you might have better luck but it will remove any root you have because I'm pretty sure it also updates the Kernel.
Thanks a lot guys! I used ODIN to flash the latest ICS version - all good now! He is unrooted, but still had CWM, so can he still receive future OTA's and make NANDroids?
You need root in order for CWM to work and for you to make a backup. Here is my guide to rooting your phone again. Very simple: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625184
Chris.
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themadba said:
You need root in order for CWM to work and for you to make a backup. Here is my guide to rooting your phone again. Very simple: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625184
Chris.
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Oh, ok, So now he has stock recovery on his phone after flashing the new update? (I haven't checked the recovery yet!) It had CWM before on 2.3.4
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Oh, ok, So now he has stock recovery on his phone after flashing the new update? (I haven't checked the recovery yet!) It had CWM before on 2.3.4
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Yes, when you update your phone you would have lost root and CWM. Just use the guide I posted above to regain root and CWM so your dad that can make his NANDroid backups.
Chris.
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themadba said:
Yes, when you update your phone you would have lost root and CWM. Just use the guide I posted above to regain root and CWM so your dad that can make his NANDroid backups.
Chris.
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Ok, thanks a lot Chris, I appreciate the effort
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Related
Will doing an update from kias from pc, basically I think its a firmwire update, will it remove root from my phone?
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If you're rooted kies won't let you update. You would have to unroot and then upgrade with kies which is probably not worth the hassle as the custom roms on xda are probably far better than what is available on kies.
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Its my first android phone, and I hear cyanogen does not fully support SGS2 yet, and that it does not have hardware acceleration. So if ice cream sandwich is released, how can I update? I heard 2.3.6 or 5 is already out for SGS2.
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Most of the custom roms on xda are 2.3.6. Cyanogen will probably release ics first and then you will see it appear on xda. There are a couple of ics developer leaks but they are buggy. It could be as late as April before you see an official release mybe longer for some carriers.
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marcadam said:
If you're rooted kies won't let you update. You would have to unroot and then upgrade with kies which is probably not worth the hassle as the custom roms on xda are probably far better than what is available on kies.
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Why ? My SGS2 rooted using zergrush method connects flawlessly to Kies, and software version is displayed correctly. I think that if phone is only rooted and not flashed with some PDA/PHONE/CSC combination that is unknown for KIES it can be upgraded this way, but of course root will be lost, so IMHO Mobile Odin with everroot will be far better way.
@marcadam: wat is ics?
@slig: wat is everroot? Is it like u wont loose root ever again? How do I get that?
Sorry im still kinda new to android, after days of research I found n used cfroot to root my fone... Didnt try any other sort of hack yet...
Thanks alot both of u...
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rez1 said:
@marcadam: wat is ics?
@slig: wat is everroot? Is it like u wont loose root ever again? How do I get that?
Sorry im still kinda new to android, after days of research I found n used cfroot to root my fone... Didnt try any other sort of hack yet...
Thanks alot both of u...
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1. Root will be lost, if you flash a new rom (unless its a non-wipe rom)
2. ICS(Ice Cream Sandwich) is the newest android version, also called "Android 4.0".
3. "Mobile Odin with everroot" he mentioned is an app that is installed on your phone, wich does exactly the same as the flashing Software(Odin) on your computer, wich you used, to flash a custom rom.
4. I don't suggest, updating with Kies, because many people reported, that it bricked their phones.
I suggest, that you flash CWM(Clockworkmod Recovery) on your phone, and use that(Its the most popular way to update/flash/backup/restore a ROM).
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I suggest, that you flash CWM(Clockworkmod Recovery) on your phone, and use that(Its the most popular way to update/flash/backup/restore a ROM).
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Is it possible to flash stock Samsung roms via CWM ? I thought that CWM is for flashing customs, original stocks can be flashed only by Odin (or Kies).
If the rom is made for flashing with CWM then yes. (Most rom's are made for flashing with CWM) if you can't find a cwm compatible stock version, then i can upload you one I made(newest stock version 100% stock).
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Hi there, i got a question related to this problem
when i rooted my phone i uninstalled kies because i had no use of it
my father just got a sgs2 and want to have it rooted
will i loose the other functions of kies when rooted ?
(I mean contacts won't sync in kies and other things like this eg. music?)
Nikueltrasgu said:
Hi there, i got a question related to this problem
when i rooted my phone i uninstalled kies because i had no use of it
my father just got a sgs2 and want to have it rooted
will i loose the other functions of kies when rooted ?
(I mean contacts won't sync in kies and other things like this eg. music?)
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No you lose nothing in KIES and dependant upon codes you may even get an update .
But why root unless an app requires root .
jje
JJEgan said:
No you lose nothing in KIES and dependant upon codes you may even get an update .
But why root unless an app requires root .
jje
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because carriers from my country add loads of bloatware that are useless and crashing a lot so cleaning up a bit isn't bad
thanks for the quick answer btw
So...I returned my phone to stock, which was a nightmare because I already had a devs ICS and the instructions (for returning to stock) are for UCKH7...got endless errors and whatnot...
Finally figure it out. So now I'm back to 2.3.6 and I figured I connect to Kies and get the At&t ICS version. No problem...got it!
Now...if I want to root it and instal cwm, how would I do it? I mean the methods at the dev section are for the gingerbread os, right?
Any help will be appreciated. :good:
just flash a kernel with Odin. Far as I know it should work fine. Then again I haven't had to do it for a long while.
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Read this
[Directory]AT&T I777 GSll {roms,kernels,tools}
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301682
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paleman27 said:
So...I returned my phone to stock, which was a nightmare because I already had a devs ICS and the instructions (for returning to stock) are for UCKH7...got endless errors and whatnot...
Finally figure it out. So now I'm back to 2.3.6 and I figured I connect to Kies and get the At&t ICS version. No problem...got it!
Now...if I want to root it and instal cwm, how would I do it? I mean the methods at the dev section are for the gingerbread os, right?
Any help will be appreciated. :good:
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If I were you I would stay away from the At&t ICS version read this thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757972
This is MUCH safer read this thread.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
EDIT: After a little more thought if I were you I wouldn't do anything else to your phone since you already flashed the kernel with the 99% confirmed eMMC "superbrick" bug (see the first link) until you research the best way, least possible chance to bricking your phone... Maybe Entropy512 can help with the best way to flash a new package!! GL if anything ever did happen I sure hope Samsung would give you a replacement.....
Another question (might be related)
Hey all,
I have just got a brand new i777, I just wanted to upgrade it to ICS and sim-unlock it.
The upgrade is to be done through kies, no problem in that.
The sim-unlocking is the issue .. i know it was easy in gingerbread to root and use herlroz app .. but now is there an easy way without using ODIN or flashing a kernel to sim-unlock this phone on the official ICS ?
xda-Newbie said:
Hey all,
I have just got a brand new i777, I just wanted to upgrade it to ICS and sim-unlock it.
The upgrade is to be done through kies, no problem in that.
The sim-unlocking is the issue .. i know it was easy in gingerbread to root and use herlroz app .. but now is there an easy way without using ODIN or flashing a kernel to sim-unlock this phone on the official ICS ?
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besides the free SIM unlock app on the market?
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Phalanx7621 said:
besides the free SIM unlock app on the market?
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that was very xda-newbie from me
Just got an update on LG Optimus G, does anyone know what in it?
gshaw1967 said:
Just got an update on LG Optimus G, does anyone know what in it?
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I'm not sure but I got it too. It failed when trying to update though. Probably because I already rooted it?
I went ahead and let it update, it's a small 3.5 MB update so definitely not anything dramatic. Changed software version from E97010l to E97010o. No change in kernel or baseband version. Will check and see if root method for international Optimus G still works...
EDIT: Root still works. Haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary, so feel free to update without the fear of losing root.
Here's a question: How are these updates pushed? My E970 is operating on Rogers and has actually NEVER been registered or run on AT&T. Are these updates pushed via the AT&T network to registered/operating phones, or via the Internet to specific IMEIs? In other words, will my phone ever get updates like this pushed?
How do we opt out of updates?
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Hooray Arkansas! Anyway, I used Titanium Backup (after rooting and unlocking bootloader) to delete the LG FOTA app. I still get the FOTA notification, and it tries to install it. However, FOTA's install using stock recovery, and if you unlock your bootloader your stock recovery is overwritten by Clockwork Mod recovery so the device just reboots
Anyone else getting better battery life? It's been 12 hours since I last charged my phone and I've barely cracked off a 3rd of the charge.
This may be a question for another thread, but my update failed (guessing because my phone is rooted). If I temporarily un-root my phone and apply the update, would it work? I can then go back and root it again if need be, but I really just wanted to remove some AT&T apps and that was the only reason I rooted it in the first place.
Now I wonder if I've created a headache for myself in regards to updates. I should have done more research before rooting!
-Collin-
CollinFX45 said:
This may be a question for another thread, but my update failed (guessing because my phone is rooted). If I temporarily un-root my phone and apply the update, would it work? I can then go back and root it again if need be, but I really just wanted to remove some AT&T apps and that was the only reason I rooted it in the first place.
Now I wonder if I've created a headache for myself in regards to updates. I should have done more research before rooting!
-Collin-
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Like Deathmonkey said, the update fails because of your custom recovery. You would have to flash your stock recovery in order to receive the OTA. I think you can see how yo do this in the rooting guide thread.
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what is the latest version of the software on your phone? I have E97010o, i sthis the latest version? I have a really bad battery drain due to fast dormancy on 3g and just wanted to check if the latest version takes care of this.
Regards
lyall29 said:
Like Deathmonkey said, the update fails because of your custom recovery. You would have to flash your stock recovery in order to receive the OTA. I think you can see how yo do this in the rooting guide thread.
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Man, I'm really sorry to be an idiot, but I couldn't find what you were talking about. I found the root guide in this forum, but there's zero mention of a recovery. Can you point me to the thread? Sorry, and thank you again.
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I was under the impression that only the unlock installs a custom recovery. Does the root do this too?
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ngeds said:
I was under the impression that only the unlock installs a custom recovery. Does the root do this too?
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That's a good question. All I did was root and uninstall a few AT&T apps. That's it. I haven't installed any custom recovery, but maybe that was done somehow?
Lesson learned for me: don't go messing with crap until I do my research
Edit: tried a hard reset, no luck of course. Only thing that did for me was buy me two hours now of trying to reinstall my apps. This is depressing.
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Sorry to bump this back up. Just got my phone last night and rooted it with this method - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941699
This morning I saw that my phone has an update available. Is it safe to update if I defrost all my frozen bloatware (I did not delete any of them, just frozen)?
I've read that I should not do OTA if I unlocked the bootloader whichI have not done, only root. I also searched and found out that I should not do OTA if I have a custom recovery which I do not think I have from the rooting directions from the thread above. Just trying to be cautious.
This update does not fix our fast_dormancy problem. I tried it on my OG the first couple days. I am now rooted, unlocked and running nottach custom att Rom.
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jamesc760 said:
This update does not fix our fast_dormancy problem. I tried it on my OG the first couple days. I am now rooted, unlocked and running nottach custom att Rom.
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Thanks for the reply. Was your phone rooted before installing the update?
My phone is GT-i9300, original stock ROM is ICS, and i have update to JB through OTA which give me XXDLJ1.
Then I root my phone by :-
1. download mode, flash CF auto root via Odin.
2. restart, install Triangle Away and reset the flash counter back
I just want to have root.
So, the question is, why I'm getting "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available"
If root , then can not check for OTA update anymore?
Or is there any other way? To have root only and everything else like just stock and can check/download OTA again in the future.
Thanks in advance XDA
syamsoul said:
If root , then can not check for OTA update anymore?
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Thats right.
But if youre on xda why do you want the OTA update anymore? Just flash a stock rom, update via odin as and when a new stock rom is available and root each time.
syamsoul said:
My phone is GT-i9300, original stock ROM is ICS, and i have update to JB through OTA which give me XXDLJ1.
Then I root my phone by :-
1. download mode, flash CF auto root via Odin.
2. restart, install Triangle Away and reset the flash counter back
I just want to have root.
So, the question is, why I'm getting "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available"
If root , then can not check for OTA update anymore?
Or is there any other way? To have root only and everything else like just stock and can check/download OTA again in the future.
Thanks in advance XDA
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Thats a question that I was about to ask. . I'm having a few problems with my S3, and I want to correct them but I need root.
I also want to keep it stock, I was a flash addicted with my previous phone, but now I don't have time and I just want something that works, and I want also to be able to check for updates. .
Looking forward to more replies.
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yugoport said:
Thats a question that I was about to ask. . I'm having a few problems with my S3, and I want to correct them but I need root.
I also want to keep it stock, I was a flash addicted with my previous phone, but now I don't have time and I just want something that works, and I want also to be able to check for updates. .
Looking forward to more replies.
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As I understood, you won't get OTA updates if rooted whereas you can get updates via kies. Flashing them will remove root though.
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skimminstones said:
Thats right.
But if youre on xda why do you want the OTA update anymore? Just flash a stock rom, update via odin as and when a new stock rom is available and root each time.
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Thanks for replying,
I'm coming from Galaxy S1, to S2 and now S3, and Samsung is not the same anymore for me, They really listen to the customer, and always improve their UI and apps. S3 is a solution/improvement for all S2 n S1 complaints.
So, it is really nice to see some app/mod which originate from here at first, been integrate to stock rom of s3 e.g. the toggle, n the lack of led light of s2 n s1
Btw, development means, to make something unusable to become usable,, to make something good to be better.
I think, it is really convenience to just have OTA instead need to find a PC just to hv update.
As my S2, i gain root just by flashing temp CWM recovery through stock 3e recovery n then flash root. It simple as that.
yugoport said:
Thats a question that I was about to ask. . I'm having a few problems with my S3, and I want to correct them but I need root.
I also want to keep it stock, I was a flash addicted with my previous phone, but now I don't have time and I just want something that works, and I want also to be able to check for updates. .
Looking forward to more replies.
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same as me...
thanks for bump
chrismast said:
As I understood, you won't get OTA updates if rooted whereas you can get updates via kies. Flashing them will remove root though.
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So what exactly is the cause for cannot have OTA update. Is it because su binary in system/app or something else..
Thanks in advance
syamsoul said:
So what exactly is the cause for cannot have OTA update. Is it because su binary in system/app or something else..
Thanks in advance
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I guess it is the device status "modified". If I understood well you can only get "original" when you flash a stock rom and unroot but please correct me if I am wrong as I never went back to original state till now.
chrismast said:
I guess it is the device status "modified". If I understood well you can only get "original" when you flash a stock rom and unroot but please correct me if I am wrong as I never went back to original state till now.
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Yes you are correct, if your phone is rooted it'll show modified no matter what you do.
syamsoul said:
I think, it is really convenience to just have OTA instead need to find a PC just to hv update.
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just how often do you think an OTA update is pushed out?
Just use mobile odin if you want to flash any stock roms without needing a pc. Youll get the update far quicker via xda/sammobile than waiting for an OTA one anyway
I have been seeing a lot of folks talking about just going back to complete stock to install the update.
Is that the best option? Are we able to root 4.3 yet?
Do you need to reset S-off on the phone or what? I have seen a few different things out there today talking about this. My phone downloaded the update and keeps asking me to install ever so often but of course won't as I don't have the stock recovery console.
All help and info is appreciated!
I'm using Avatar ROM and my phone isn't even prompting me with the update. I'm really happy with my phone now so I'll give it a few days and wait for feedback on it.
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Kay Rich said:
I'm using Avatar ROM and my phone isn't even prompting me with the update. I'm really happy with my phone now so I'll give it a few days and wait for feedback on it.
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I have just been using stock rooted as I have needed to keep my wifi calling.
I am used to Samsung's and Moto's and this is my first HTC I have worked with so the process of doing everything is a bit different.
Is there a way I can just flash stock recovery back and then install the update and be good to go?
chisledice said:
I have been seeing a lot of folks talking about just going back to complete stock to install the update.
Is that the best option? Are we able to root 4.3 yet?
Do you need to reset S-off on the phone or what? I have seen a few different things out there today talking about this. My phone downloaded the update and keeps asking me to install ever so often but of course won't as I don't have the stock recovery console.
All help and info is appreciated!
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You can leave s-off but you need to go back to stock Rom and recovery to receive ota. I have a link posted a link in the ota is coming thread that will help you return to stock. If you updated firmware you just need to use a usb otg and a usb mouse cause touchscreen won't work
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