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Hey guys, so I waited forever for my nexus and now that I have it...its somewhat disappointing. Bad signal, things close randomly, and it also has cheap build quality.
Honestly, how do you guys like your rezounds? How's the battery on those things? How's the build quality?
My entire android experience to this point has been with HTC (Inc and Inc 2) and I wanted something new, but I may come back.
Appreciate all the replies. Thanks.
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Hey guys, so I waited forever for my nexus and now that I have it...its somewhat disappointing. Bad signal, things close randomly, and it also has cheap build quality.
Honestly, how do you guys like your rezounds? How's the battery on those things? How's the build quality?
My entire android experience to this point has been with HTC (Inc and Inc 2) and I wanted something new, but I may come back.
Appreciate all the replies. Thanks.
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I, personally, love this phone. The build quality is very solid and doesn't feel like a cheap piece of plastic in your hand. I get great signal from it. Phone calls are clear and don't drop. I also rarely lose 4g unless I'm just in a horrible area. Plus, the GPS on this phone is absolutely amazing.
The battery life could be better stock, but you can't really expect much with such a big and bright screen. I was getting around 6 hours of heavy use out of it until I tried this little trick by nosympathy. Now I'm getting a strong 12-15 hours with fairly heavy use. I'm more than happy with everything about this phone. We don't have S-Off or perm root right now, but I could really care less. Just stock this thing whips the hell out of any phone I've ever touched. When we do get the update to ICS and Sense 4.0 (probably early next year according to HTC), this thing will be even better. I love this phone and will probably never touch anything but HTC in the future. I would suggest going to Verizon and playing around with one. I don't think you'll be disappointed at all. Good luck!
Edit: Also, with any phone I've had before (mostly Motorola or LG), I've been dying for root right away to make the phone better. This one doesn't need root to be amazing. It just is straight from the box.
I've tried numerous phones and carriers. Most recently I had the Bionic and the RAZR. I would say this phone is the best I've had in the last year or so. After going through 3 RAZRs due to screen problems, random rebooting and reception issues, the first Rezound I got is just perfect. The screen is much clearer, 4G radio is consistently 5-10 Mbps higher than the RAZR/Bionic were. I will stick with this phone for sure.
Awesome replies so far, thanks guys. So there's no creaking around the back or sides of the phone when you press them? That was a problem on both generations of my Incredible
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form factor alone, the rezound kills the nexus. that things feels so damn cheap its disgusting. as for battery, you'll get a standard work day. the highest i've gotten so far was 17 hours. not bad!
creaking, yeah. mines starting to develop it. However, I use a case so I never noticed it.
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The Rezound is the most solid feeling phone I have ever had. I switched from Sprint to get it.
Solid, great display, good battery, stupid fast, Sense 3.5!
Rezound is probably the best 4G phone you can get on Verizon now. The Hardware is high end, I'm sure once we get s-off or once ICS hits oh baby.
Edit: no creaks.
Agreed. Absolutely in love with this phone. Usually I get a phone and say I like it except for a few things. The only thing missing for me is s-off, and its so good I'm not even that upset
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I just came back from the Nexus. The battery life was horrible, the reception was about 30db less, no simultaneous 3G voice and data, and the screen wasn't that impressive.
I am happy to be back, I really like this device.
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Creaking is very slight. Some rebounds have over heating issues, so be aware that you may have to exchange for one that doesn't.
However I love my rezound, does everything I want and one of the best things is simultaneous voice/data. Came from tmobile and so glad I get to keep that feature.
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I have been considering the nexus (I haven't looked at it yet) but after reading the tremendous amount of issues and people trying to defend things that should not be acceptable, I'll probably stick with my rezound which is perfect accept I don't have root and an MIUI rom option yet... But other than that, pretty much have 0 issues with it hardware wise, and I do like sense 3.5, but MIUI is more my style I think.
It seems that there are too many issues on top of compromises by switching to the Nexus :-\ the only reason I kind of want it is for the constant updates and Google support, but that's not worth sacrificing everything else for IMO, even if we don't get root, ill probably still be happier with this one
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Awesome replies so far, thanks guys. So there's no creaking around the back or sides of the phone when you press them? That was a problem on both generations of my Incredible
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tbh, mine does creak now which is annoying. extended battery door doesn't yet. Decided to buy a case and don't notice it anymore. Had the Razr before this and I can honestly say I am very happy to have switched to the Rezound. Camera on the Rezound is much better than nexus or razr.
edit: plus we have Scrosler over here now. Can't beat that!
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The Rezound is the most solid feeling phone I have ever had. I switched from Sprint to get it.
Solid, great display, good battery, stupid fast, Sense 3.5!
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+1 to that. I had the OG EVO before and switched to VZW just for this phone. Love it.
rileyd5 said:
tbh, mine does creak now which is annoying. extended battery door doesn't yet. Decided to buy a case and don't notice it anymore. Had the Razr before this and I can honestly say I am very happy to have switched to the Rezound. Camera on the Rezound is much better than nexus or razr.
edit: plus we have Scrosler over here now. Can't beat that!
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I have noticed the creaking. I don't notice it with a case. I actually need the case anyway because attaches to the belt. So far I'm happy with it. It's blazing fast compared to the Thunderbolt.
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WasabiWa83 said:
I, personally, love this phone. The build quality is very solid and doesn't feel like a cheap piece of plastic in your hand. I get great signal from it. Phone calls are clear and don't drop. I also rarely lose 4g unless I'm just in a horrible area. Plus, the GPS on this phone is absolutely amazing.
The battery life could be better stock, but you can't really expect much with such a big and bright screen. I was getting around 6 hours of heavy use out of it until I tried this little trick by nosympathy. Now I'm getting a strong 12-15 hours with fairly heavy use. I'm more than happy with everything about this phone. We don't have S-Off or perm root right now, but I could really care less. Just stock this thing whips the hell out of any phone I've ever touched. When we do get the update to ICS and Sense 4.0 (probably early next year according to HTC), this thing will be even better. I love this phone and will probably never touch anything but HTC in the future. I would suggest going to Verizon and playing around with one. I don't think you'll be disappointed at all. Good luck!
Edit: Also, with any phone I've had before (mostly Motorola or LG), I've been dying for root right away to make the phone better. This one doesn't need root to be amazing. It just is straight from the box.
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Thanks for the call out. Glad my guide helped you out.
I can make the sides crash I'd I squeeze it hard, but mine doesn't with normal use. I think that happens after you pop the back off a bunch, the clips, which are plastic, start to stretch.
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I see I'm not the only one thinking of trading in their Nexus for a Rezound. I'm coming from the Incredible.
Incredible has better reception, faster 3G speed, louder speakers (ear and rear). Also people said the DInc had poor battery life, mine last 2 days on a charge. I'm sure I can get the Rezound to last atleast day.
I'm still not fully liking the on-screen buttons. The menu button, depending on the app, is sometimes at the bottom, sometimes at the top, and some others have reported no where at all. They also reduce the resolution on most apps to 720x1184. Only a few apps (anything by google) can shrink or hide the buttons for full screen.
Phone connects to USB via MTP instead of Mass Storage Device, due to lack of sdcard.
Still images aren't bad at all, but doesn't seem to deal with motion all that well.
The reason I chose the GNex was for the amoled screen, but I might settle with slcd for an overall better phone.
Considering how most amoled screens over saturate and enrich colors to the point where they aren't accurate, and have banding issues, they are pretty, but too many issues come with it... SLCD is better lol as it does none of this, it only has a minimal wash for blacks that u can see visually, but its so minor, its not as much of an issue as seeing glare from the glass (like reflection glare that every smooth surface has...)
Edit: I went and checked one out in the store today and while ICS is cool and all, too many cons to the phone, screen problems, home buttons were weird when typing, signal wasn't as good as the two beside it (rezound and razr) even in the store, and it had more hiccups than the rezound on bloated sense. The front cam was noticeably worse, and the rear cam was fine but the rezound took better pictures... The back plate was also jacked up but I'm sure its because of the sensor things on them, though the rezound had the same thingy on it and its plate wasn't warped and bent.
Anyway, glad I got it out of my system now, I much prefer this phone, I just wish it got the same support as the Nexus. Though root will come ...
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I thought that I wanted OMLED but after seeing the blue (white) screen compared to my wife's Rezound along with my other points I decided to go back to the Rezound.
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I actually love the AMOLED screen on my Incredible, however I'm a little let down with the AMOLED on the GNex.
Things I did not like about the GNex:
Crazy batter drain: 25 percent per hour during moderate usage. (maybe due to new battery)
No visual voice mail
Missed a lot of key presses – the screen is just not that sensitive (very annoying having re repress keys!)
Speaker quality is miserable. It’s all scratchy and distorted at higher volumes. And it’s not nearly as loud as the Photon.
It’s is not as responsive as the Photon: Photon seems faster with almost any task.
Screen is low contrast and looks muddy in white areas
Screen is unevenly illuminated
Photon camera is hands down better in terms of detail
Right side of images are soft (something wrong with the lens?)
The case is slippery – and it’s already so large that I do not want to add a case.
Lack of capacitive buttons is a real pain. For example, while the phone is importing contact from Google, you can not simply press the home button and do something else in the foreground. There is no button to press, so you are stuck there waiting needlessly.
Things I like about it:
High resolution screen can look fantastic & type looks extra clear
the screen has rich, awesome blacks
The camera is always focusing and shoot as soon as you press the button
It seems to charge very fast
Radios seem good: Speedtest yielded similar results to the Photon on both 3G and wifi.
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As the GNEx is overall less responsive than the Photon, spkr phone is terrible, and battery life is poor, I am going to sell it and keep to Photon.
So yeah, I will be upgrading my other like to the Evo LTE in June and see how that goes…
And hopefully the next Motorola will keep the physical buttons, as the Evo LTE does.
Best,
ron
I moved on to a gnex. My screen has been responsive except when the browser is loading.
Battery life seems good once you train the battery. Have gotten about 2 hours of calls AND 4 hours (together) of surf time on wifi.
It is slippery sometimes. Back feels like it has traction sometimes. Does need feel as good in hand as photon, but is lighter and more bottom weighted.
For the speed of the device its mixed. Has same stock launcher hiccup as photon...but only with a LWP. Everything else is smooth for the most part.
Speakerphone is decent if you hold it right. Seems more naturally tuned than voice heavy. Not as loud though.
Another important feature for me is awesome blacks. Photon had black crush and made the xda start up page look orange. Back to a more normal contrast scale on the gnex. The photon was still easier to read in sunlight and both have that blue tinted screen which is either the glare reduction or oleo phobic quality. Mind you the 2nd gnex I am on has the purple tint issue.
Radios seem on par and this thevgnex stays connected to my wife's car it seems. Photon does support more profiles though.
NFC....have you seen what you can do with tags??????
One more thing I love about Sammy devices is their haptic feedback.
Things I miss are the alarm features, stopwatch, web top, HDMI support with no adapter, the kickstand, fb integration, and the rounded edges.
Over all though the gnex is still a great phone as is the photon. I kept mine because of it
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just as a quick fyi, photon doesnt have physical buttons it has capacitive buttons, the gnexus has onscreen buttons
For what its worth..... I went to sprint and played with a gnex....... it was OK but the external speaker wasn't very loud and it wasn't any faster than my photon. For me it isn't enough of a difference for me to upgrade from my photon with cm9. I really do want a phone with nfc chip and a baro sensor tho.
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OK - just tried the HTC One X. It is indeed impressive - much more so than the Gnex.
The screen is pretty fantastic, it feels smaller and more sturdy than the Gnex too.
A much better phone IMO.
ronnienyc said:
OK - just tried the HTC One X. It is indeed impressive - much more so than the Gnex.
The screen is pretty fantastic, it feels smaller and more sturdy than the Gnex too.
A much better phone IMO.
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But can't use a extended battery.... that's a deal breaker for me.
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It is said that the battery life is very good.
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It is said that the battery life is very good.
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it would have to be out of this world fantastic for me to even consider it.
i spend my free time riding a dualsport motorcycle at times way farther into the Everglades than i should be and have to turn on GPS for hours at a time. i use a 3500ma battery daily and carry the stocker as a backup. a replaceable battery is a must for me.
to be honest as well i'm tired of having half ass broken phones. unlocked bootloader but no 4g etc. as soon as my area gets LTE i'm getting what ever Nexus phone is available at that time. hopefully it's a motorola made one but if not it's no big deal.
DualSportDad said:
it would have to be out of this world fantastic for me to even consider it.
i spend my free time riding a dualsport motorcycle at times way farther into the Everglades than i should be and have to turn on GPS for hours at a time. i use a 3500ma battery daily and carry the stocker as a backup. a replaceable battery is a must for me.
to be honest as well i'm tired of having half ass broken phones. unlocked bootloader but no 4g etc. as soon as my area gets LTE i'm getting what ever Nexus phone is available at that time. hopefully it's a motorola made one but if not it's no big deal.
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Only thing worse than getting a boner in public places is not having a memory expansion slot on my smartphone as I like to keep my media in excess. So that was the deal breaker for me.
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The battery as mediocre with my gnex when I first got it too. After two weeks the battery has improved greatly. When using only stock I prefer the gnex.
If you own the photon skip the gnex, but if its between both and all else is equal then go with the gnex. Price wise, the photon can't be beat though. Wish I still had it, I would have spent my money on a tablet instead!
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HTC would have to show me something very exclusive for me to buy another phone from them Samsung needs to step they radio game up
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Or Google could just have Motorola build the next nexus phone. We'd get the best hardware, vanilla android and a unlocked boot loader.
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snoopy1e11 said:
HTC would have to show me something very exclusive for me to buy another phone from them Samsung needs to step they radio game up
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The HTC one isn't enough? I like your standards!!
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was tempted to pick up gnex but i might wait now, thanks for perspective
I sold GN, to a man, that sold it to me, after he tried HTC OneX, he wants GN back and gave OneX away. I am staying with Photon for now. ;-)
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Ok people. Doing reviews on devices other than the Photon 4g, should be kept in respective device forums. Unless I'm missing something, I didn't see the MP4G mentioned once.
I put a sticky up just for posts like these. "What Phone should I buy"
Also, for "some", try and keep the sexual innuendo's to a minimum... "boner", and don't let it progress farther.
It was amazing. Screen size was just right. 45% battery was 1:45 screen time on LTE. Comparatively, the rezound sucks. It is so thin and light. I can't believe how good it is. Makes me hate the Rezound now.
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really? i played with my friends htc one s on tmobile and it made me love the rezound even more. My sense 4.0 was just as smooth as his stock sense 4.0. Verizon 4G keeps 4G inside for me all the time and his dropped to 2G and was slow. Everything it can do rezound can do with exception of shoot video and take photo at same time but everything else is the same. Rezound was just as fast too. And the weight difference is a little bit but you cant remove your battery on the one s so that isnt a good thing for me. I was very impressed by rezound vs a brand new device
We have bright screens.
http://geekaphone.com/compare/HTC-One-X-Quad-Core-vs-HTC-Rezound
The One X is way better than the One S. It made me hate my Rezound lol. That great battery life on LTE with the screen on was amazing. Their screen was so much more vibrant to be honest.
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con247 said:
The One X is way better than the One S. It made me hate my Rezound lol. That great battery life on LTE with the screen on was amazing. Their screen was so much more vibrant to be honest.
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I can see the screen difference. Its a better screen. But I love being able to swap batteries. Until htc makes a device like the razr maxx, just can't have nonremovable.
Though, come this winter if verizon gets a killer wp8 device with lte, might jump back over there.
It's not that much better than the rezound to make me want to switch. I'm fine with the rezound for now.
con247 said:
It was amazing. Screen size was just right. 45% battery was 1:45 screen time on LTE. Comparatively, the rezound sucks. It is so thin and light. I can't believe how good it is. Makes me hate the Rezound now.
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I've played with whichever One that AT&T has (my mother got it and has no idea how to use it) and I think it's way too thin and I didn't like how you can't change the battery and how the flash works. If the XL has a battery and a removable flash like the rezound, it might be better. It was too big and thin for me, I thought id break it easily.
Lighter does not equal better. I like weight because it means better build quality (in most cases.). Not having a changeable battery is another downside.
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MajikUF said:
I've played with whichever One that AT&T has (my mother got it and has no idea how to use it) and I think it's way too thin and I didn't like how you can't change the battery and how the flash works. If the XL has a battery and a removable flash like the rezound, it might be better. It was too big and thin for me, I thought id break it easily.
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How do I remove the flash?!?
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How do I remove the flash?!?
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He meant the flash memory which is what an sd card is...
yeah I wanna leave verizon for a one x lol
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I can see the screen difference. Its a better screen. But I love being able to swap batteries. Until htc makes a device like the razr maxx, just can't have nonremovable.
Though, come this winter if verizon gets a killer wp8 device with lte, might jump back over there.
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4 hours of screen on time with the internal battery is fine lol.
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No offense, but in 6 months, there will just be another phone that blows the doors off the One X. 6 months ago, that best phone was arguably the Rezound. The point is, there will always be another better device right around the corner, waiting for your envy to get the better of you so it can steal your money. I am not saying I don't agree with your assessment of that device... it is an extremely nice phone. But, it did not in any way make me think my Rezound sucks.
For now, rezound is ok, not the best but still great.
After I flashed your ConRom V4, everything works well.
The only bad thing on rezound for me is the thickness and heavy.
Other than that, rezound is still best for me.
GS3 looks awesome, sometimes wanna switch to it, but screen on rezound is better than GS3's pentile.
I might switch my rezound to other phone when next generation of S4 comes out.
Oh, I might say Thank you Con for your flawless rom, since I cannot leave reply on dev section
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No offense, but in 6 months, there will just be another phone that blows the doors off the One X. 6 months ago, that best phone was arguably the Rezound. The point is, there will always be another better device right around the corner, waiting for your envy to get the better of you so it can steal your money. I am not saying I don't agree with your assessment of that device... it is an extremely nice phone. But, it did not in any way make me think my Rezound sucks.
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I agree completely but it just shows how terrible the Rezounds battery life really is.
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con247 said:
I agree completely but it just shows how terrible the Rezounds battery life really is.
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I came from a Thunderbolt. Trust me when I say that it could be much worse
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Lighter does not equal better. I like weight because it means better build quality (in most cases.). Not having a changeable battery is another downside.
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I like the heft of the Rezound too, just some psychological trick though. The physicist in me just screamed out that more mass means more energy...the phone gets jolted all the harder during a drop because of it.
Extra weight is generally bad and is just stored potential to mess your tech up, I wish mainstream reviews would explain that scientific point when it comes to devices: weight is a detriment to overall build quality, not a benefit at all.
That said, the Rezound is a tank lol, I've dropped without cases and it survived many a time. Screen cracked only on a direct fall, pancake style.
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I like the heft of the Rezound too, just some psychological trick though. The physicist in me just screamed out that more mass means more energy...the phone gets jolted all the harder during a drop because of it.
Extra weight is generally bad and is just stored potential to mess your tech up, I wish mainstream reviews would explain that scientific point when it comes to devices: weight is a detriment to overall build quality, not a benefit at all.
That said, the Rezound is a tank lol, I've dropped without cases and it survived many a time. Screen cracked only on a direct fall, pancake style.
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dude you know what's hilarious? i had two girls in yesterday who were like, "wah i hate the razr because it's so thin and small..my friend has one, she drops it all the time and it breaks every time."
so a million things wrong with that, but then i'm like, she really thinks that because it's THINNER means it'll break easier? are people dumb? lol
but yeah, the rezound always had a nice feel in the hand, hence why i bought it over the razr
SLCD2 make diff i guess
our screen drink energy a lot
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I came from a Thunderbolt. Trust me when I say that it could be much worse
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I miss my bolt. It had cm7 and liquid rom. And omfgb. I miss those roms haha
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Hey guys.
Some of you may know me from the Evo 3D section. Recently, my 3D's touchscreen started to fail on me (a known quality-control issue) and I evaluated my options on repairing it and came to the conclusion a new phone is a better investment.
I've been researching the living crap out of the Galaxy Nexus and the 4G LTE (The GS3 is waaaay outside my price point). It seems more and more likely that the 4G LTE is simply a better phone.
So now, this thread. Before I pull the trigger, I want the scoop on this phone from the only users I trust; XDA users. Tell me what you love about this phone, what you hate, what to watch out for, whether or not you regret it, anything. As much detail as possible, please
This phone will genuinely have to last me two years (buying it off contract). I need to know that I can count on this in the same way I was able to count on my HTC Hero (which I feel was more dependable than the Evo 3D).
Thanks guys. I look forward to possibly joining you in this forum in the future.
What's up man?! Go ahead and pull the trigger is what I say. I didn't consider it that huge of an upgrade personally but I figured id try it out for 14 days and return then try the GS3 then make my decision. I ended up keeping it and deciding to do so very quickly.Lol. Very 1st thing that got me was the thinness and how great it felt holding.....it felt really nice....and the screen is ike candy for your eyes. My experience with sense 4 and the speed made me question the need to root (blasphemy I know) but I did anyway. I love the camera software and the phone charges fast and really last....the sleeping is incredible. I live everything about it except the shiney black top....other than that in my opion its the best Evo ever and top phone now.
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After my first experience with the EVO 3D (3 lemons in under a month), I thought I'd never own an HTC phone again. I went as far as saying I'd never piss on an HTC phone if it was on fire. This phone is making me eat those words. I don't even know why I gave them another chance but I'm glad I did. I wanted a great screen, fast processor, and a relatively "future proofed" phone and this totally fit the bill. It was between this and the Gnex but with the connectivity problems, notoriously weak antennae and glacial charging I rolled the dice on the EVO.
I'm really digging the snappiness overall, running Nova launcher and MeanICS 0.5 ROM. The screen is gorgeous, especially coming from a Photon, and the camera is just about neck and neck with my 4S (work phone). I've been shooting with it for about a week and love love love the pictures it takes.
The only thing I don't like is the car dock has a really finicky usb connector and no sound comes through said connector making it a real bummer when I want to use the phone as an aux music source.
With ROM floodgates starting to open, I heartily endorse this phone to anyone who is in the market. Even stock with Nova launcher works really well, I'm not a fan of Sense but I will admit it was way better than what came stock in the Evo 3D.
Omg we need a Liquid Rom in here! I haven't ran something from you since the HREO CDMA days! Your Sense Rom was the best!
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I sold my preordered Evo for a pretty penny and bought a Galaxy Nexus for dirt cheap. While the Nexus was good, the battery made it just OK. It just wouldn't last. The screen was nice but put it next to the Evo and nice becomes wtf. The Evo comes with a microSD slot for my 64GB card (huge plus). The battery in the Evo lasts a whole day a whole night and in to the next afternoon. With heavy use, I mean playing with it constantly from games to web to calls it easily can last 12-15 hours. That right there sold me. I had the option for the GS3 as well. I was really thinking I would switch, considering I had the Epic and the Epic Touch. I.couldn't bring.myself.to return it. Too GREAT of a phone. Plus the kickstand is great. I watch a lot of Netflix while waiting for freight. There isn't a single con and a long list of pros. BUY IT!
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What's up man?! Go ahead and pull the trigger is what I say. I didn't consider it that huge of an upgrade personally but I figured id try it out for 14 days and return then try the GS3 then make my decision. I ended up keeping it and deciding to do so very quickly.Lol. Very 1st thing that got me was the thinness and how great it felt holding.....it felt really nice....and the screen is ike candy for your eyes. My experience with sense 4 and the speed made me question the need to root (blasphemy I know) but I did anyway. I love the camera software and the phone charges fast and really last....the sleeping is incredible. I live everything about it except the shiney black top....other than that in my opion its the best Evo ever and top phone now.
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So it feels solid in your eyes? If I grip my Evo 3D even slightly firmly, I can feel the plastic creak. How are you doing on battery life? I'm an extremely minimal user of my phone.
DB13 said:
Omg we need a Liquid Rom in here! I haven't ran something from you since the HREO CDMA days! Your Sense Rom was the best!
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Heh, I've been considering starting up a project like that again.
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I sold my preordered Evo for a pretty penny and bought a Galaxy Nexus for dirt cheap. While the Nexus was good, the battery made it just OK. It just wouldn't last. The screen was nice but put it next to the Evo and nice becomes wtf. The Evo comes with a microSD slot for my 64GB card (huge plus). The battery in the Evo lasts a whole day a whole night and in to the next afternoon. With heavy use, I mean playing with it constantly from games to web to calls it easily can last 12-15 hours. That right there sold me. I had the option for the GS3 as well. I was really thinking I would switch, considering I had the Epic and the Epic Touch. I.couldn't bring.myself.to return it. Too GREAT of a phone. Plus the kickstand is great. I watch a lot of Netflix while waiting for freight. There isn't a single con and a long list of pros. BUY IT!
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That's some very promising battery life, especially for my minimal use
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After my first experience with the EVO 3D (3 lemons in under a month), I thought I'd never own an HTC phone again. I went as far as saying I'd never piss on an HTC phone if it was on fire. This phone is making me eat those words. I don't even know why I gave them another chance but I'm glad I did. I wanted a great screen, fast processor, and a relatively "future proofed" phone and this totally fit the bill. It was between this and the Gnex but with the connectivity problems, notoriously weak antennae and glacial charging I rolled the dice on the EVO.
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Ah, someone who understands the build quality woes of the Evo 3D. In the short year I've owned it, the screen plate near the cap buttons has "sunk" down into the shell, the battery cover has become lose, the outer 'lining' is coming off, and the power button and volume buttons are almost hilariously mushy (never know if they're working).
I'm sorely searching for the build quality of HTC that I used to know, from the days of the Hero all the way back to the original Titan and Apache (those things were amazing). It seems you feel that they've recaptured this "Evo" namesake.
I'm really digging the snappiness overall, running Nova launcher and MeanICS 0.5 ROM. The screen is gorgeous, especially coming from a Photon, and the camera is just about neck and neck with my 4S (work phone). I've been shooting with it for about a week and love love love the pictures it takes.
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How's the screen at repelling fingerprints? I know that it's supposed to come with an oleo-phobic coating, but do you think it would be worth getting a screen protector?
Great phone; buy it! :good:
What's up liquid I think you should go ahead and get it there's nothing better at this point and to build quality is nothing like the evo 3d. My only issue is the lack of multitasking it reloads tabs almost..but I've heard that has been fixed on the hox...great device..makes the 3d look like a fat pig
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So it feels solid in your eyes? If I grip my Evo 3D even slightly firmly, I can feel the plastic creak. How are you doing on battery life? I'm an extremely minimal user of my phone.
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The quality is the best I ever felt......no plastic feel or creak like the 3d......When I first held it I was like WOW. I'm a heavy user when on station and I don't feel tethered to a plug.....it does very well but the way it sleeps is the best.....I can have 80 percent and go do 3 runs and several hrs later it still sits at 80......my 3D would have dropped by 20 lol
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I've been a happy owner of the 3D for the past year, but after flashing the Virgin Mobile FW and finding out from Sprint that I have a free upgrade, I'm picking up the 4G LTE on Monday. I just figure the time is right to make the jump since as of now there's no downgrade for the FW, no official ICS release, and WiMax is dead. Base on this thread, I'm in!
The phone is awesome even stock I have no complaints could maybe use a radio update but that's it seeing how these dye radios are new I find signal to be acceptable for myself. Love the camera and I have no problems removed some screens tho since 7 is over kill lol
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Just don't put it in your skinny jeans pocket and you'll be fine. Would love to see your work on my LTE.
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Also coming from the 3D, I decided to pull the trigger on this phone earlier this month.
Personal pros: Size, feel, battery life
Cons: Wifi/3G dropout, multitasking (primarily Sense reload)
I rooted immediately, switched to Apex Launcher, and tested a few custom ROMS.
Temp bricked it yesterday w/ the S-OFF method, and returned it to BB to swap out in hopes that it would fix the Wifi/3G dropouts. Wifi seems to be better, 3G dropouts still exist, so I'd imagine it'll be a radio/firmware fix in the future. I'd also imagine the aggressive and clumsy multitasking will also be resolved when source is released from HTC and we can get some custom kernels.
SG3 is released for the public on 7/1 @ BB, so I'll go back to play around w/ it a little bit before my 30 day window of opp. is closed. All in all, I'm leaning towards keeping the LTEvo due to the development community and overall feel of the phone.
Lastly, I was going to go right back and root after getting phone #2, but simply installing Apex over stock everything hasn't been bad. I think until source is released, I can deal with holding off on root. The apps I rely on work w/o root, FoxFi works w/o root (even though pointless w/ slow 3G data, but hey..), and honestly, until we can start overclocking, undervolting, etc., the only true benefit w/ root access is being able to F w/ the build.prop for GW purposes, density, and whatever. Not enough of a factor IMO to root just yet, though the ROMS available right now are promising!
Verdict: Go for the LTEvo. Enjoyed your work during the Hero days as well!
For the screen, the fingerprints have been less of an issue than my tbolt, but they are still there. I thought the screen really was "scratch proof" until I had it in a bag with my keys and I saw a little scratch right in the effing MIDDLE of the screen! Needless to say, I ordered a matte screen protector and will see if it kills the awesome-ness of how the screen looks and displays.
I honestly cannot agree more with what has already been said about this awesome phone. After coming from my tbolt with a rezound battery (i still use it to this day) and it's crappy battery life to this phone has totally restored my confidence in using smartphones. Instead of thinking "if i play this emulator or watch this video, I'll have to charge it again", I say "I will play this emulator or watch this video and not care because the battery WILL last". I know I sound crazy here, but the battery really is that good. In fact, it's that reason that I haven't rooted and put on a custom ROM because I'm afraid something will happen.
Performance wise, it is just plain sick. It runs the PSXEmulator tons smoother than my TBolt and sense is just awesome. I would consider rooting just for the dual-core mod where the second cpu is always running except for when the screen is off, but again, bye-bye insane battery life (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Physical feel of phone is sweet; the thinness is good and the material is nice; except for that bloody top back shiny cover that drives us OCD guys nuts with fingerprints :O But I did order a case because I'm afraid if I drop it, it will go bye-bye.
I researched heavily this phone and the galaxy nexus and from what I could tell, the nexus didn't have the same power as this phone and because of that, people complained that it ran slower than it should. Also the battery was only so-so.
I have yet to look back and do not regret the money I spent
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What's up liquid I think you should go ahead and get it there's nothing better at this point and to build quality is nothing like the evo 3d. My only issue is the lack of multitasking it reloads tabs almost..but I've heard that has been fixed on the hox...great device..makes the 3d look like a fat pig
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I read that this was due to aggressive minfree values to keep Sense running smooth. Custom ROMs have already tweaked it, but I actually see this as a plus. I've always used extremely (read: ludicrous) aggressive minfree and OOM values, because I damn near never multitask, I only ever do one thing at a time.
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The quality is the best I ever felt......no plastic feel or creak like the 3d......When I first held it I was like WOW. I'm a heavy user when on station and I don't feel tethered to a plug.....it does very well but the way it sleeps is the best.....I can have 80 percent and go do 3 runs and several hrs later it still sits at 80......my 3D would have dropped by 20 lol
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That is very, VERY nice to hear. I look forward to that
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I've been a happy owner of the 3D for the past year, but after flashing the Virgin Mobile FW and finding out from Sprint that I have a free upgrade, I'm picking up the 4G LTE on Monday. I just figure the time is right to make the jump since as of now there's no downgrade for the FW, no official ICS release, and WiMax is dead. Base on this thread, I'm in!
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Yuck, I'm sorry you had to go through the Virgin FW mess. I thankfully was late in finding out about it and hence managed to see all the problems that came with it before I flashed, so I skipped it. Glad to hear you're getting an upgrade!
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The phone is awesome even stock I have no complaints could maybe use a radio update but that's it seeing how these dye radios are new I find signal to be acceptable for myself. Love the camera and I have no problems removed some screens tho since 7 is over kill lol
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Radio update? Are signal woes really a concern?
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Just don't put it in your skinny jeans pocket and you'll be fine. Would love to see your work on my LTE.
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Heh, no skinny jeans on this boy, don't worry. I might delve back into it again, we'll see.
pwrmedia said:
Also coming from the 3D, I decided to pull the trigger on this phone earlier this month.
Personal pros: Size, feel, battery life
Cons: Wifi/3G dropout, multitasking (primarily Sense reload)
I rooted immediately, switched to Apex Launcher, and tested a few custom ROMS.
Temp bricked it yesterday w/ the S-OFF method, and returned it to BB to swap out in hopes that it would fix the Wifi/3G dropouts. Wifi seems to be better, 3G dropouts still exist, so I'd imagine it'll be a radio/firmware fix in the future. I'd also imagine the aggressive and clumsy multitasking will also be resolved when source is released from HTC and we can get some custom kernels.
SG3 is released for the public on 7/1 @ BB, so I'll go back to play around w/ it a little bit before my 30 day window of opp. is closed. All in all, I'm leaning towards keeping the LTEvo due to the development community and overall feel of the phone.
Lastly, I was going to go right back and root after getting phone #2, but simply installing Apex over stock everything hasn't been bad. I think until source is released, I can deal with holding off on root. The apps I rely on work w/o root, FoxFi works w/o root (even though pointless w/ slow 3G data, but hey..), and honestly, until we can start overclocking, undervolting, etc., the only true benefit w/ root access is being able to F w/ the build.prop for GW purposes, density, and whatever. Not enough of a factor IMO to root just yet, though the ROMS available right now are promising!
Verdict: Go for the LTEvo. Enjoyed your work during the Hero days as well!
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It seems as though I might not need to root for a while either. I've actually not needed to tether in a long, long time with my 3D. Root was soley for performance desires. These connectivity issues are getting a it worrying though...
And thanks! I didn't realize my Hero ROM had such a reputation haha.
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For the screen, the fingerprints have been less of an issue than my tbolt, but they are still there. I thought the screen really was "scratch proof" until I had it in a bag with my keys and I saw a little scratch right in the effing MIDDLE of the screen! Needless to say, I ordered a matte screen protector and will see if it kills the awesome-ness of how the screen looks and displays.
I honestly cannot agree more with what has already been said about this awesome phone. After coming from my tbolt with a rezound battery (i still use it to this day) and it's crappy battery life to this phone has totally restored my confidence in using smartphones. Instead of thinking "if i play this emulator or watch this video, I'll have to charge it again", I say "I will play this emulator or watch this video and not care because the battery WILL last". I know I sound crazy here, but the battery really is that good. In fact, it's that reason that I haven't rooted and put on a custom ROM because I'm afraid something will happen.
Performance wise, it is just plain sick. It runs the PSXEmulator tons smoother than my TBolt and sense is just awesome. I would consider rooting just for the dual-core mod where the second cpu is always running except for when the screen is off, but again, bye-bye insane battery life (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Physical feel of phone is sweet; the thinness is good and the material is nice; except for that bloody top back shiny cover that drives us OCD guys nuts with fingerprints :O But I did order a case because I'm afraid if I drop it, it will go bye-bye.
I researched heavily this phone and the galaxy nexus and from what I could tell, the nexus didn't have the same power as this phone and because of that, people complained that it ran slower than it should. Also the battery was only so-so.
I have yet to look back and do not regret the money I spent
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It looks like the battery usage will be insane for me. All these use-cases appear to be with heavy usage and good battery life, so I can't wait to see what my mild usage will result in.
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm loving reading all these experiences!
No signal is fine for me as I'm in a well covered area. I could be a tad stronger but that's about it.
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No signal is fine for me as I'm in a well covered area. I could be a tad stronger but that's about it.
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My 3D would always kill itself trying to find signal where I live. I'm hoping that won't be an issue with the LTE.
Amazon has some great prices on this phone in and out of contract.
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For the screen, the fingerprints have been less of an issue than my tbolt, but they are still there. I thought the screen really was "scratch proof" until I had it in a bag with my keys and I saw a little scratch right in the effing MIDDLE of the screen! Needless to say, I ordered a matte screen protector and will see if it kills the awesome-ness of how the screen looks and displays.
I honestly cannot agree more with what has already been said about this awesome phone. After coming from my tbolt with a rezound battery (i still use it to this day) and it's crappy battery life to this phone has totally restored my confidence in using smartphones. Instead of thinking "if i play this emulator or watch this video, I'll have to charge it again", I say "I will play this emulator or watch this video and not care because the battery WILL last". I know I sound crazy here, but the battery really is that good. In fact, it's that reason that I haven't rooted and put on a custom ROM because I'm afraid something will happen.
Performance wise, it is just plain sick. It runs the PSXEmulator tons smoother than my TBolt and sense is just awesome. I would consider rooting just for the dual-core mod where the second cpu is always running except for when the screen is off, but again, bye-bye insane battery life (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Physical feel of phone is sweet; the thinness is good and the material is nice; except for that bloody top back shiny cover that drives us OCD guys nuts with fingerprints :O But I did order a case because I'm afraid if I drop it, it will go bye-bye.
I researched heavily this phone and the galaxy nexus and from what I could tell, the nexus didn't have the same power as this phone and because of that, people complained that it ran slower than it should. Also the battery was only so-so.
I have yet to look back and do not regret the money I spent
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I'm running the nocturnal Rom and it has the dual core going but honestly I haven't noticed a difference. ....you should check it out.....it's been the smoothest for me so far
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I dont mind the killing of apps as much as I do the tabs in the web browser..sometimes esp. With online banking I run into issues..it happens pretty much instantly..I've adjusted my min free settings as well as flashed about every rom besides aosp and my phone still kills apps like that's its job..I would just like the option to adjust it or have it ignore my web browser as I'm pretty good about closing things out..buts that's my only issue and it will be fixed..the build is bar none and battery is sick..camera is on par with top cell phone cameras and the UI in the camera app is best in class..i never miss a shot ..it will be good to see u in here liquid..to defend against the trolls and fanboys LOL
So I got my DInc4g this past weekend and I'm loving the phone, I chose it over the new GS3. Today I was playing around with a coworkers Google Nexus and it's pretty damn nice. I have been an iphone user since my XPeria X10. So I'm not hip on the whole current android universe.
Looking at specs... The nexus and the DInc4g seem pretty close, except the camera. I like the size of the nexus, it's the middle ground between the two other phones. And JB runs super smooth on it.
I'm still in my window to exchange this phone for the nexus. So I'm reaching out for opinions.
Nexus or DInc4g? Or can somebody convince me to wait 2 days for the SG3?
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So I got my DInc4g this past weekend and I'm loving the phone, I chose it over the new GS3. Today I was playing around with a coworkers Google Nexus and it's pretty damn nice. I have been an iphone user since my XPeria X10. So I'm not hip on the whole current android universe.
Looking at specs... The nexus and the DInc4g seem pretty close, except the camera. I like the size of the nexus, it's the middle ground between the two other phones. And JB runs super smooth on it.
I'm still in my window to exchange this phone for the nexus. So I'm reaching out for opinions.
Nexus or DInc4g? Or can somebody convince me to wait 2 days for the SG3?
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its all personal preference really, i think the biggest 2 things are this:
1) what screen size/form factor is best for you
2) what version of android do you like running? if you get the nexus you ll always have the most up to date (well for 2 years or so) stock versions of android..and you can get miui w/ it to....if you get the gs3 you ll (probably) get aosp versions and have tw roms...witht his (hopefully) we ll have aosp at some point, but primarily sense roms
and price is a factor to some extent (if using an upgrade to purchase)
I can't give you any info on the SG3 but I can give you a direct comparison on the Inc 4g and the GNex.
I purchased both phones at the same time as I was curious on which would be better for my needs. I was a little on the fence about the Inc with it having a smaller screen than my current phone (Rezound). So I played with both over the weekend and the Inc 4g won me over hands down.
The GNex is a very nice phone, don't get me wrong, but the battery life is absolutely abysmal. I thought the Rezound had battery issues! The GNex had really bad signal as well. The Inc 4g had about 2 bars of signal and the GNex was telling me to connect to wifi sitting next to each other. So I played around with some kernels and different roms for the GNex to see if it would get any better on signal and battery life. Nothing helped in a serious manner. The amoled screen on the GNex is pretty nice as you dont get the washed out blacks like you do on an SLCD screen. But comparing the two screens next to each other, I preferred the Inc 4g as far as overall color and sharpness was concerned.
The lack of an SD card was a major drawback for me as well, by the time I copied my music over to the GNex my left over space was very limited. The dev community on the GNex is huge though. If you're a flashaholic...the GNex is for you. If you want your phone to last a full day and then some...get an Inc 4g.
Would also like to point out that the speed tests I ran on a 4g connection, the Inc 4g won on every test. Usually by 5Mbps on the download and 2Mbps on the upload. This was consistent on every test.
Screen size is your other determining factor. If you prefer a large screen...GNex. The Inc 4g has a smaller screen but there are no issues with reading anything on it. It's very clear, so don't assume a smaller screen is a harder screen to read. I've found the larger the screen, the worse off the battery life is. GNex takes it to a whole new level on battery drain though. I have used many phones over the years and the GNex is the absolute worst on battery life I have ever seen. Even with an extended battery you more than likely will not last an entire day with moderate use.
As far as the Inc 4g, I really don't have any complaints. Its extremely responsive, no lag that I have noticed and the battery life is the best I've seen from a smartphone to date. There is only one thing that in my opinion could make this phone better...Amoled screen. But the only thing you'd gain is the pure blacks you just don't get with LCD technology.
Hope it helps a little. I like both phones very much. Really it comes down to screen size and what your willing to put up with from your battery.
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and price is a factor to some extent (if using an upgrade to purchase)
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GNex and Inc4g are the same price ($149)...GS3...omfg
*Madmoose* said:
GNex and Inc4g are the same price ($149)...GS3...omfg
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depends on where you buy it...directly from vzw yes, but its still 40 for inc on letstalk...not sure what the best gnex deal is...and havent really seen any sgs3 deals (cuz it was preorder) just 199/249 from vzw
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depends on where you buy it...directly from vzw yes, but its still 40 for inc on letstalk...not sure what the best gnex deal is...and havent really seen any sgs3 deals (cuz it was preorder) just 199/249 from vzw
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Good point there, you are absolutely right.
I haven't heard good things about the Nexus on Verizon. 2 of my coworkers has it. One with Verizon, he complained about it. Idk if the other is on Verizon
The galaxy nexus is horrid on Verizon... I had and the phone battery is the worst I have ever expierenced... Mind u I have had the thunderbolt and the original Razr... Yes nexus now has JB but soon we will too... Remember this phone just came out last week lol... Without any hacks and scripts this phone is crazy fast... Just imagine what will happen a few months from now and we could really hack into this thing and bring out its true power... Galaxy S3 is a power house don't get me wrong but people who talk on in looks like they talking on a Gameboy lol
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My coworker has a JB nexus with 3 hrs screen on time. I've only heard people complain about battery life if they don't use custom roms. Also, it's sort of asking for poor battery life if you don't use system toggles. Does anybody have a fully modded nexus that can comment on the battery life? Or even with the extended battery?
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I don't have either the Nexus, or the INC 4g, but I do have the OG INC, and I think what the guys said above should spell it out, pretty clear.
I actually went in a VZ store yesterday to ask the folks about some changes to my plan coming up, and while I was there I wanted to see what the INC 4g looked like compared to my OG INC, and maybe even the GS3.
Well, the INC 4g was the same size as my phone in an otterbox, so I figure it will be even slightly bigger, if I get it and will get an otterbox covering it. It was a little laggy though, but hell, the store model had so many dang icons on the top, with gps and everything going on, it didn't suprise me, guess the clerks have downloaded everything under the sun on that thing. I liked what I saw though, and sense 4.0 looked kind of refreshing, nice. The viewable screen is a little more than I currently have with the OG INC, which was cool.
Now, I was disappointed I couldn't actually lay my hands on a GS3, I wanted to compare the two, and they don't have one in the store, but yet you can preorder the damn thing, well that to me sucks.
However, I did see a Nexus, and my first reaction was,. WTF, that damn thing needs a saddle bag strapped on my waist to hold it, lol. I mean, I thought it was just too damn big, and if I've read the information on here right, the GS3 is even slightly bigger. Well that concluded my interview, I do not want a tablet for a phone, and that was the impression I got, so if you like em big, then you might just dig the GS3 or Nexus.
Funny though, I was listening to a sales rep, talking with some potential customers, and I don't consider myself to be an expert, but, this fool was talking about how in another two days the new Nexus was hitting the store, and I had to laugh at that. Also, he compared the Droid 2 to the INC 4g, as far as speeds and overall phone similarities, oh brother, these guys are really up to snuff on their products...
Haha wow... Some reps really need to learn what they talk about before opening their own mouths smh
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I just noticed after playing around a little, if you remove the tabs at the bottom of the app launcher you could fit 6 rows in there easily...
...there's a dev somewhere going "you don't know what the hell you are talking about, you have any idea what that involves?"
Don't shoot!
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Haha wow... Some reps really need to learn what they talk about before opening their own mouths smh
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I learned a loooong time ago not to listen to reps in the store.
I was swapping out the GNex i had for the Inc 4g today and the girl told me I shouldn't do that cause the HTC phones are much worse for battery than the phone i had...all I could do was sigh at her. She then proceeded to tell me that the SG3 was a great phone and couldn't understand why I was trading it in. Some people were just born at the wrong end of the stupid meter.
Don't get me wrong, there are some great reps out there, but they are extremely few and far between.
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I just noticed after playing around a little, if you remove the tabs at the bottom of the app launcher you could fit 6 rows in there easily...
...there's a dev somewhere going "you don't know what the hell you are talking about, you have any idea what that involves?"
Don't shoot!
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I learned a loooong time ago not to listen to reps in the store.
I was swapping out the GNex i had for the Inc 4g today and the girl told me I shouldn't do that cause the HTC phones are much worse for battery than the phone i had...all I could do was sigh at her. She then proceeded to tell me that the SG3 was a great phone and couldn't understand why I was trading it in. Some people were just born at the wrong end of the stupid meter.
Don't get me wrong, there are some great reps out there, but they are extremely few and far between.
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Haha indeed... I freaking love this phone... It's so fast and speedy and the battery has been great so far.. imagine how our device will be once nodded or JB is installed
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I also pre-ordered a SG3 to keep my unlimited and have been thinking of (probably will) exchange for an Inc4g.
I've been reading alot of reviews of the Incredible 4g and SG3 and find it strange that the Inc4g is mostly described as a disappointment, under-powered and not much of an upgrade where the SG3 is mostly described has a flagship top-of-the-line phone. However when I look at the specs, they look "pretty much" the same.
CPU: Same CPU model, 1.2Ghz vs 1.5Ghz, I doubt 300Mhz is a noticable difference especially since you're probably running at a lower freq most of the time anyways
Screen: GS3 has slightly higher pixel density (306 vs 275)
Dimensions: GS3 is thinner but larger
Battery: GS3 has larger but as long as I can get through a day, whats the difference?
Skin: Sense vs TouchWiz, I think most people prefer Sense
Camera: Both 8MP, Inc has a F2.2 vs F2.6 lens, but GS3 may have a better chip?
Everything else, GPU, weight, etc, is almost exactly the same.
I would use the same argument to choose the Inc4g. People say the Inc4g isnt worth it because it is too much like the rezound. I say the SG3 isnt worth it because its too much like the Inc4g and I dont want to give up the ability to use my phone with one hand or fit it in my pocket. If they were both 4in, I might go for the GS3 since its thinner and slightly higher speced, but it doesnt seem worth it.
I walked around to verizon, sprint, tmobile to compare. I hope that verizon finally has a SG3 now so I can compare them in the store side by side.
First time posting on XDA, been watching and learning for a long time...
I was in the same boat as the op, until this morning at my local VZW Corp store. First, I love my Rezound, the screen is top notch, accurate color representation. With an art and photography background, this is number 1 thing I look at and require, a great screen. But because of the hype, I had to check out the SG3 to see for myself. Talk about major letdown. Dim, dim ,dim screen is all I can say. Google home page is white, not gray like I saw this morning. The LG models looked crisper sitting next to it. And brightness was at max. Touch wiz is ok, too muddy and jumbled.
Next I looked at the Dinc4g, and man what a difference. No lag, great feel in hand, and a clean, crisp, bright screen. Really felt like the little brother to my Rezound, only snappier. If the Dinc4g had a screen in the 4.3 - 4.7 inch size, I would have left the store with one. Not a big dealbreaker, but would need more time to adjust to the size.
Ram size, proc speed really is not an issue, unless you are doing video editing, photo editing, etc in which case that is what a desktop is for. I personally like the Dinc4g for its clean UI, snappy feel, build quality, and clean/bright screen. May end up getting it to replace my old dx the wife uses.
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Yeah, the screen size is definitely smaller, but really I don't even notice it until I hit websites in desktop mode. But the pinch/zoom fixes that up nicely. Overall I wouldn't be happier with any other phone. The battery life is amazing on the Inc 4g. I honesty don't know how they did it...it's just...remarkable.
Really? Dim? I did not notice any difference in the displays. Ofcourse I had to look at the SG3 in a sprint or tmobile, then goto a verizon to look at the Inc4g so I never saw them side by side.
I'm thinking the two phones are pretty much equal. If you prefer a larger phone, the the SG3, if you prefer a smaller one, then the Inc4g.
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Really? Dim? I did not notice any difference in the displays. Ofcourse I had to look at the SG3 in a sprint or tmobile, then goto a verizon to look at the Inc4g so I never saw them side by side.
I'm thinking the two phones are pretty much equal. If you prefer a larger phone, the the SG3, if you prefer a smaller one, then the Inc4g.
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Agree, 2 phones are equal, comes down to UI and size.
Regards to dim screen, next to my Rezound and Dinc4g in store, yes sg3 not nearly as bright. The whites were not white. There is an article also confirming screen illumination. Sorry, can't post a link yet. Not nit picking, all a matter of personal preference. Still both are good devices and no matter which one folks go with, they will be more than pleased with the experience.
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I'm thinking the two phones are pretty much equal. If you prefer a larger phone, the the SG3, if you prefer a smaller one, then the Inc4g.
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Agree, 2 phones are equal, comes down to UI and size.
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I'm quoting these parts of these two posts in particular because I feel like we need to start seeing that sentiment expressed more often. The way people on the internet seem to talk about this phone versus the GS3 is ridiculous. They make it seem like they're two totally different phones and the SGS3 is so ultimately superior in every way, when they have the same operating system, the same chipset (with the Incredible underclocked by 0.3 GHz which only serves to extend battery life and is not noticeable in everyday tasks, not to mention the fact that it can easily be overclocked to its original 1.5 GHz), and roughly equivalent-performance battery capacities when you take into account the SGS3's dramatically larger screen. This phone has been panned in multiple reviews I've read about being "stuck in the past" or "not up to the standards expected at the $200 price tag today" but the only phones out right now at the $200 price level in the same class as this phone are the SGS3 and HTC's own One series of phones, both of which have significantly larger screens. It all seems like Samsung's shelling out a lot of dollars to get major media outlets to make this phone look like a dinosaur when it just isn't.
(Also, one review called this phone "too thick and bulky"--seriously? I'm not really interested in carrying around a sheet of window glass. This phone's thickness will do just fine.)
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I'm quoting these parts of these two posts in particular because I feel like we need to start seeing that sentiment expressed more often. The way people on the internet seem to talk about this phone versus the GS3 is ridiculous. They make it seem like they're two totally different phones and the SGS3 is so ultimately superior in every way, when they have the same operating system, the same chipset (with the Incredible underclocked by 0.3 GHz which only serves to extend battery life and is not noticeable in everyday tasks, not to mention the fact that it can easily be overclocked to its original 1.5 GHz), and roughly equivalent-performance battery capacities when you take into account the SGS3's dramatically larger screen. This phone has been panned in multiple reviews I've read about being "stuck in the past" or "not up to the standards expected at the $200 price tag today" but the only phones out right now at the $200 price level in the same class as this phone are the SGS3 and HTC's own One series of phones, both of which have significantly larger screens. It all seems like Samsung's shelling out a lot of dollars to get major media outlets to make this phone look like a dinosaur when it just isn't.
(Also, one review called this phone "too thick and bulky"--seriously? I'm not really interested in carrying around a sheet of window glass. This phone's thickness will do just fine.)
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Is the Inc4g actually underclocked 1.2ghz or is it an actual 1.2Ghz cpu? I know the difference is minimal, but it makes a difference when overclocking and stability. If I recall, most phones run at a lower frequency to save power and only jump up to the max speed when you need it (launching an app, games, etc) so they may literally be running the same speed most of the time. As for the battery life, I haven't been able to find a review of both phones where they used the exact same technique to measure battery life so I have no idea how much of a difference it is. I assumed that the GS3 is better because its larger. Yes the screen is larger, but it is probably also off a majority of the time. I do wish the phone were thinner and lighter but I guess that is a personal preference just like how some people want a bigger screen.
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Is the Inc4g actually underclocked 1.2ghz or is it an actual 1.2Ghz cpu? I know the difference is minimal, but it makes a difference when overclocking and stability. If I recall, most phones run at a lower frequency to save power and only jump up to the max speed when you need it (launching an app, games, etc) so they may literally be running the same speed most of the time. As for the battery life, I haven't been able to find a review of both phones where they used the exact same technique to measure battery life so I have no idea how much of a difference it is. I assumed that the GS3 is better because its larger. Yes the screen is larger, but it is probably also off a majority of the time. I do wish the phone were thinner and lighter but I guess that is a personal preference just like how some people want a bigger screen.
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HTC claimed that the processor was "totally different" when the phone was originally announced, but it has since been confirmed that the Incredible 4G has an MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 chipset inside, which is the same chipset as the one clocked at 1.5 GHz in the SGS3 and other phones. Obviously, we will know better once the development on this phone moves forward how stable this phone is at 1.5 GHz, but since there is no record of a 1.2 GHz MSM8960 being produced by anyone, the assumption (and the repeated statement in many reviews/articles about this phone) is that it is an underclocked processor.
The GS3 has a 2200 mAh battery versus the Incredible's 1700 mAh battery, which would be a big difference if the two phones were comparable, but due to the GS3's higher clock and bigger screen, the difference is much less pronounced. The GS3 probably does have better battery life in real-world usage than the Incredible 4G, since, as you say, the screen is off most of the time, but the difference is not as pronounced as some reviews may lead you to believe. A 4.8" screen has to light up significantly more area than a 4.0" screen, and given that these phones are a lot more efficient CPU-wise than previous generations thanks to the S4, the screen is now by far the biggest pull on the battery (62-80% on my Inc 4G depending on how many voice calls I make).
The only benefit to a thin phone for me is that you can put a bulkier case on it without worry of the phone getting too thick. I don't really like how overly thin mobile devices feel in hand, especially phones--I like my palm to be able to rest comfortably on the back of the phone while holding it one-handed without my fingers awkwardly hanging off the side, which requires a bit more bulk.