Hello everyone, I recently started a new job and I get a discount with Verizon so thinking about jumping ship from Sprint and the HTC Evo 3d. I was just wondering if anyone could please post a few pros and cons about their experience with the Droid RAZR. I am having a very hard time deciding between the RAZR and Nexus galaxy.
Thank you all for your help.
Bought the nexus first and immediately returned it for the razr. Problems with the nexus: terrible radio, poor reception, terrible volume, inferior battery life, somewhat laggy (live wallpapers especially). The nexus did have a beautiful screen and ICS. Those are the only two things it has over the razr. The razr is supposedly getting ICS at the beginning of the year so it won't even matter. Trust me, you will be happier with the razr. Do not buy into the hype for the nexus, you will be disappointed.
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If you like constantly losing 4g and having slower download speeds, by all means buy the nexus. If you like a proven solid radio that has excellent 4g that locks in, go for the razr.
firsttimer44 said:
Bought the nexus first and immediately returned it for the razr. Problems with the nexus: terrible radio, poor reception, terrible volume, inferior battery life, somewhat laggy (live wallpapers especially). The nexus did have a beautiful screen and ICS. Those are the only two things it has over the razr. The razr is supposedly getting ICS at the beginning of the year so it won't even matter. Trust me, you will be happier with the razr. Do not buy into the hype for the nexus, you will be disappointed.
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If you like constantly losing 4g and having slower download speeds, by all means buy the nexus. If you like a proven solid radio that has excellent 4g that locks in, go for the razr.
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The only thing that concerns me about the razr is the locked bootloader. Do you think this will hinder development. I know there was like 0 development for the evo 3d when the bootloader was locked. After revolutionary came out development soared for the evo3d.
After few days using the RAZR XT910,
Pros:
1) Excellent receptions. Consistent download and upload speed.
2) Audio : Superb! I am using Westone UM3Xs IEMs and Unique Melody Mage custom IEMs. for audio listening. Very clean audio with good bass punch.
3) Design: Excellent and elegant. Very presentable for official occasions.
4) GPS: Excellent reception!. Waay better than SGS.
Cons:
1) Inconsistent of the menu's theme/color. I prefer the white texts over black background, just like the N1's.
2) Minor display problem, just like what others reported in other threads.Mine has the small 'black; area at bottom left of the screen, but it can be negligible, or being noticed at all.
3) Wifi, like others, slightly weaker, but, still performs very good.
Conclusion: Nothing is perfect, but RAZR is much better than N1 and SGS, in term of performance and design. A software/OS improvements can make RAZR even better.
Thank you.
Pros:
Excellent (Motorola) call quality and signal. Noticably better than my previous Droid HTC Incredible.
Great quality screen. After two weeks of the Razr I picked up the ole' Incredible and realized how freaking nice the Razr's screen is. Some people knock it (theverge.com review for one) but It's clear to me know they don't know anything.
Battery life is not bad at all. I get 12-14 hours with 4G enabled before I hit 20%. I don't do a lot of calls typically though.
Super fast performance when opening and running apps.
Lots of accessories available.
Cons:
It's wide. It felt awkward the first few days, every time I touched it. It doesn't feel awkward anymore but it's big and wide.
It scratches easy - (not the screen). I've been super gentle with the phone (naked phone) and putting it down very easy and making a point to put it down in a decent spot every time. It's got a lot of fine scratches on the back areas that touch the desk or surface it's resting on.
Camera is so so. It can take a good picture. It's just very strange in that I can't tell what I just took without going to the gallery and looking. Takes a while to get used to it. And the moto Gallery sucks but I just use QuickPics (free) app from the Market to solve the poor gallery issue.
Bootloader is locked. I haven't even rooted the phone yet so I am not too concerned, but it would be nice if it is unlocked one day.
I'm really tired of "the bootloader isn't unlocked" to be honest. Out of the box, this phone has performed flawlessly. I was a ROM hoarder at first, but now realize that root is not, and should not be necessary for any device to work properly. There are a tiny few advantages, but they in no way give advantage to professional usage.
This phone is a wonder out of the box... Nuff said...
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I'm really tired of "the bootloader isn't unlocked" to be honest. Out of the box, this phone has performed flawlessly. I was a ROM hoarder at first, but now realize that root is not, and should not be necessary for any device to work properly. There are a tiny few advantages, but they in no way give advantage to professional usage.
This phone is a wonder out of the box... Nuff said...
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What he said...
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nastystang05 said:
The only thing that concerns me about the razr is the locked bootloader. Do you think this will hinder development. I know there was like 0 development for the evo 3d when the bootloader was locked. After revolutionary came out development soared for the evo3d.
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I promise you, the sgs is way over hypes. It has ics and that is it. It has outdated hardware and is slower than most other high end phones
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IP IHI II IL said:
I'm really tired of "the bootloader isn't unlocked" to be honest.
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The OP asked for "PROS and CONS"... And the locked bootloader would fall under the CON category. Unless of course you consider that one of the PROS of the phone? I'm not knocking the phone. Trust me when I say, that I think it's great. Perhaps he doesn't know jack squat about it, so I'm going to list it.
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The OP asked for "PROS and CONS"... And the locked bootloader would fall under the CON category. Unless of course you consider that one of the PROS of the phone? I'm not knocking the phone. Trust me when I say, that I think it's great. Perhaps he doesn't know jack squat about it, so I'm going to list it.
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When the RAZR gets the ICS update, moto will unlock the bootloader with the update. I got this to get out of the og Droid before the nexus came out. I'm sticking with this phone. Not a fan id moto blur, but can live with it until ics.
Loving the panoramic camera shot.
Battery life was pretty bad until I got juice defender platinum.
No complaints otherwise.
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When the RAZR gets the ICS update, moto will unlock the bootloader with the update.
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There's no proof to that happening with the Verizon Razr. Maybe in Europe, but most likely not here in the U.S. with a 912. Perhaps it might be easier for someone to unlock it at that time, but I don't see Verizon magically unlocking it for us.
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I just got a Thrill 4G and Im thinking about trading it in for an Atrix. The phone is great but the battery life sucks, and I cannot see the 3D screen with sun glasses on. I live in AZ so they are on every time I go outside so that is an important deciding factor for me.
The Atrix is $49 today so Im thinking about getting one. I'd love to hold out for the SGS2, but who knows when it will be out and it will prob be $199.
So, would you buy an Atrix again if you had to do it over again?
If I wouldn't of had to sell my first ATRIX I wouldn't have. My fave phone!
Tapped from my ATRIX.
No-brainer imo --- the atrix is FAR superior; I'll admit that with stock gingerbread the phone is kinda meh....still an awesome phone but nothing mindblowing. I assume since you're here you'll be unlocking and flashing it...which makes the phone AMAZING. The 3-D stuff just seems so gimmicky to me and won't be perfected/well-implemented for a good amount of time to come.
As far as the SGS2, on paper it looks like an amazing phone but I'll have to wait to see - I had the captivate and was so disappointed with it (anyone that had that phone from the beginning knows how horrendous Samsung's support was). I hope that Samsung has learned a lot since the beginning of the GS line because a phone with such amazing hardware shouldn't have so many problems.
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No-brainer imo --- the atrix is FAR superior; I'll admit that with stock gingerbread the phone is kinda meh....still an awesome phone but nothing mindblowing. I assume since you're here you'll be unlocking and flashing it...which makes the phone AMAZING. The 3-D stuff just seems so gimmicky to me and won't be perfected/well-implemented for a good amount of time to come.
As far as the SGS2, on paper it looks like an amazing phone but I'll have to wait to see - I had the captivate and was so disappointed with it (anyone that had that phone from the beginning knows how horrendous Samsung's support was). I hope that Samsung has learned a lot since the beginning of the GS line because a phone with such amazing hardware shouldn't have so many problems.
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I actually know exactly what you mean because I bought my Captivate a couple days after it was released. I still have it, dont use it, but I was really happy with it after flashing ROMS on it. The development forum on that phone is fantastic.
Yes, I would never have a stock phone. Did they ever get the bootloader unlocked on this phone? I know that was the major reason that people hesitated to get it.
i love my atrix. nothing out there is better to me. im running CM7 beta on it right now. so fast.
With CM7 , everything is happy
Love it, fast, nice camera, nice speaker, good gaming performance with THD games, great community.
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I actually know exactly what you mean because I bought my Captivate a couple days after it was released. I still have it, dont use it, but I was really happy with it after flashing ROMS on it. The development forum on that phone is fantastic.
Yes, I would never have a stock phone. Did they ever get the bootloader unlocked on this phone? I know that was the major reason that people hesitated to get it.
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There's an automatic bootload unlocker in this very forum I won't bash you because I missed it myself, hahaha. It worked like a charm for me though.
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There's an automatic bootload unlocker in this very forum I won't bash you because I missed it myself, hahaha. It worked like a charm for me though.
Here is the link::
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I didn't miss it because I wasn't looking for it. I don't have an Atrix and was asking a question.
Everything I've read says that the Atrix also has poor battery life. I saw a thread on a battery calibration and mod that is supposed to help. I dont want to trade ina phone with bad battery life for another phone with bad battery life.
Both have a dual core CPU but the Atrix has 1GB of RAM which is nice IMO. I cant see the Thrill 3D screen with sunglasses on which sucks to me. The 3D is very gimmicky and hurts my eyes, lol. And there is only one ROM and the dev's seems to be bailing on this phone so I don't see a very good future in the Thrill dev threads.
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I didn't miss it because I wasn't looking for it. I don't have an Atrix and was asking a question.
Everything I've read says that the Atrix also has poor battery life. I saw a thread on a battery calibration and mod that is supposed to help. I dont want to trade ina phone with bad battery life for another phone with bad battery life.
Both have a dual core CPU but the Atrix has 1GB of RAM which is nice IMO. I cant see the Thrill 3D screen with sunglasses on which sucks to me. The 3D is very gimmicky and hurts my eyes, lol. And there is only one ROM and the dev's seems to be bailing on this phone so I don't see a very good future in the Thrill dev threads.
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Bad battery life reports are the vocal minority. Most of us here consider the battery to be one of the Atrix's strong points. I can get 2 1/2 days with light usage on mine with CM7 installed on it. Thats with wifi set to never sleep, and with GPS and 3G/HSPA enabled.
I love the Atrix. Literally the only problem I have with it is the pentile display, and even then its a very minor issue.
It has a 1930mAh and all the review sites i've read say the battery life is very good. Flashing a custom rom will make it even better! People have been getting like 16-24 hrs with Wifi and everything on, constantly browsing the internet and playing games (read it on youtube)
This is my first Android phone. Came from 4 years with the iPhone. Ill tell you this...not looking back. This phone was great stock. Now running cm7, this thing is fuggin amazing... battery and performance are nothing short of great.
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I just got a Thrill 4G and Im thinking about trading it in for an Atrix. The phone is great but the battery life sucks, and I cannot see the 3D screen with sun glasses on. I live in AZ so they are on every time I go outside so that is an important deciding factor for me.
The Atrix is $49 today so Im thinking about getting one. I'd love to hold out for the SGS2, but who knows when it will be out and it will prob be $199.
So, would you buy an Atrix again if you had to do it over again?
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The Atrix is an incredibly solid device. Gotta give AT&T credit for getting a top-notch device out of Motorola.
well it sounds like you guys are quite happy with it. If the battery life is that great then it's a no-brainer for $49.99. I do believe hat Im gonna return my thrill today. It a cool phone, but im a power user and ROM flashing addict so it seems i'll fit right in.
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well it sounds like you guys are quite happy with it. If the battery life is that great then it's a no-brainer for $49.99. I do believe hat Im gonna return my thrill today. It a cool phone, but im a power user and ROM flashing addict so it seems i'll fit right in.
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Good choice. The only HTC that is a solid Atrix competitor on AT&T (candybar Android w/o keyboard) is the Inspire4G, but honestly, after several HTC devices and several Moto devices, HTC may come up with cool designs and features, but Moto is great at implementing reliable, high-performing designs. I've never gotten the "oh, that is cheap" feeling with a Moto phone, while Samsung and HTC . . . meh!
Typically find out people who are complaining about battery life have heavy usage that would have even worse battery life on other phones. You had a captivate like I did, so I can tell you this phones battery kicks the **** out of the captivates....and will be even more amazing should you decide to UV it.
If you want to see a GOD AWFUL battery, **** around with an HTC inspire for about 6 hours lol.
Anyway, I think you should at least give the Atrix a try and worst case scenario you don't like it you bring it back within the 30 day window (assuming you will have one).
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I guess I'm the lone dissenter here. I'm not a fan of the Atrix. Maybe I got a lemon but it seems like there are a lot of problems.
The build quality is suspect. Dust and even a very small piece of cat hair has gotten under the screen. The back plate/battery cover feels cheap and creaks when I hold it. The GPS is rarely able to get a lock on my position, rendering it useless. Also, bluetooth connection is unreliable. I've tried 2 vehicle systems and 3 headsets. They are all able to pair fine, but lose connection in the middle of phone calls.
And if you've done research on the Atrix I'm sure you've read all about Motoblur and how ugly it makes the UI. It's all true. I'm on gingerbread and I have to say its hideous. The stock in-call screen, dialer and photo gallery all look like something designed by an elementary student.
Can you flash it and fix the ugliness of the UI? I'm not a techy but from what I've read the answer seems to be mixed. It would appear yes you can just as long as the OTA update of gingerbread has not been installed on the phone. If it has, you're either screwed or prepare to spend the next 3 years of your life reading up on how to hack the device.
On the positive side, believe everything you've seen about the Atrix's speed. By far the fastest phone I've ever used. The screen is nice and bright as well.
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Can you flash it and fix the ugliness of the UI? I'm not a techy but from what I've read the answer seems to be mixed. It would appear yes you can just as long as the OTA update of gingerbread has not been installed on the phone. If it has, you're either screwed or prepare to spend the next 3 years of your life reading up on how to hack the device.
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It sounds like you might have got a lemon. But, I had the ota update and flashed it the very same day with no problems at all so it honestly isn't that difficult.
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landoftherich said:
I guess I'm the lone dissenter here. I'm not a fan of the Atrix. Maybe I got a lemon but it seems like there are a lot of problems.
The build quality is suspect. Dust and even a very small piece of cat hair has gotten under the screen. The back plate/battery cover feels cheap and creaks when I hold it. The GPS is rarely able to get a lock on my position, rendering it useless. Also, bluetooth connection is unreliable. I've tried 2 vehicle systems and 3 headsets. They are all able to pair fine, but lose connection in the middle of phone calls.
And if you've done research on the Atrix I'm sure you've read all about Motoblur and how ugly it makes the UI. It's all true. I'm on gingerbread and I have to say its hideous. The stock in-call screen, dialer and photo gallery all look like something designed by an elementary student.
Can you flash it and fix the ugliness of the UI? I'm not a techy but from what I've read the answer seems to be mixed. It would appear yes you can just as long as the OTA update of gingerbread has not been installed on the phone. If it has, you're either screwed or prepare to spend the next 3 years of your life reading up on how to hack the device.
On the positive side, believe everything you've seen about the Atrix's speed. By far the fastest phone I've ever used. The screen is nice and bright as well.
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There are many options to get rid of the stock gingerbread Motoblur look. The obvious choice is CM7, which will do away with Blur entirely, and make your phone quite a bit quicker. Most themes available in XDA will get rid of the Blur look, and there is a huge selection in the App and Theme section. I use the ext4 Homebase Rom with his Honeycomb theme, and it significantly speeds up my phone.
I would recommend the Atrix over other Android phones for a few reasons. The biggest reason why I like it so much is because of the form factor. I like the 4 inch screen more than 4.3 or 4.5 or 9.3. Battery life has been pretty good, at least as good as I can reasonably expect from a smartphone. The hardware specs are comparable to any other Android device, and if you're willing to root and flash custom Roms, you will notice a marked improvement over stock performance (which I think is true of any Android phone). What really makes this phone as slick as it is are its accessories. I just bought the lapdock from Vancouver Craigslist for $150 and I love it. I knew when I bought it that it was kind of gimmicky (like the 3D from your Thrill), but for what I need this tool for, it's been outstanding. Nothing beats watching Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad on my hour commute to work while simultaneously charging my phone!
I love my Atrix, and it's a shame the phone got such a bad wrap off the bat due poor implementation of Blur on 2.2, and encrypted bootloader. Now with the unlocked bootloader and better blur, in addition to more and more custom roms being built, this phone is coming closer to its potential. I wish it had a metal back plate, but I understand the potential of worse reception and getting hotter than the plastic cover. All in all, the only phone I would remotely consider exchanging my Atrix for would be the Sensation, and even then I think I'd really have to be sold on the idea. I hope this helps with your decision.
Cm7 is a must on the atrix. I've tried other roms but none ever worked quite right. Annoying fc & other errors - but thanks to those devs for putting in the time & effort. Blur is complete crap: I couldn't even listen to my mp3s without the music stuttering bcuz the phone was busy searching for "suggestions" of similar songs I may like. Damn you, for the unwanted marketing on my device, at&t & Motorola. For a while, I very much regretted trading in my iPhone. But now all is well. Thank you cm7 devs!
So I just got my Atrix
It has 1.2.6 as a build on it, and from reading I'm not finding too much information on that build. I don't think that I want to do the OTA to 4.1.57 though because I keep reading about bricks. I'm going to put a ROM on it, more than likely CM7 so Im not sure what good it would do to update OTA. I'll have to root it though so I guess I can get on that first but all of the root guides are for 1.8.x and up.
My incredible is seriously on its last legs, and I have to move off of it. The rezound seems to have its share of problems, but the nexus is still m.i.a.
So ... For those of you with the rezound, with whatever annoyances you are dealing with ... Are you still happy you got it?
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Very happy I got it.
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Problems? What problems? This phone is a damn good, and pretty much logical, update from the incredible imo.
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When I first heard of the big three phones (Rezound, Nexus, RAZR) coming out around the same time, I was torn as to which phone to go with. However, as I started looking at the specs on each phone, the Rezound stuck out as the clear winner for me. The fact that the RAZR does not have a replaceable battery and has the lowest screen resolution became deal breakers on that one. The fact that the Nexus does not have a slot to upgrade memory and the fact I had seen many discussions surrounding Samsung build quality became a deal breaker on that one. With that, the Rezound became the clear choice for me. I upgraded from the Thunderbolt. I have been very impressed so far. The screen is AMAZING on the rezound. The only downer for me with the Rezound right now is the lack of full root and S-off to be able to do some customization and hopefully improve battery life. Personally, I think the Rezound is a great phone!
This is a phenomenal phone and I have no regrets buying it, I came from an Incredible and went to the RAZR returned the RAZR and got the Rezound, haven't looked back at all.
I was gonna wait for the Nexus phone, but I'm not an AOSP guy, "sense" is what bought me.
It all depends on which skinned version you like best.
1) Vanilla
2) Blur
3) Sense
My only annoyance with it is the bloatware and lack of root, which is all VZ's fault, not HTC's. I think they did a wonderful job with the device so far. I loooove the screen, I really don't miss the deeper blacks from the AMOLED of the Dinc because the RZ is just so damn sharp!
I LOVE this phone! I came from a rooted, tricked out Dinc... Thanks to Nils and Joel.
Would I do it again? Heck yes!
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My only annoyance with it is the bloatware and lack of root, which is all VZ's fault, not HTC's. I think they did a wonderful job with the device so far. I loooove the screen, I really don't miss the deeper blacks from the AMOLED of the Dinc because the RZ is just so damn sharp!
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That is precisely why I am looking forward to S-OFF to remove all the bloat! I know removing some of it should really help get more out of the battery and should make the phone run like a dream!
i used my inc the other day for the first time in two days, and i've gotta say, although the blacks were darker with amoled, this screen is so much sharper and i think the blacks on the rezound's lcd actually make reading whtie text a little easier, for example on the xda app wiht the dark theme applied. i love it!
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This is a phenomenal phone and I have no regrets buying it, I came from an Incredible and went to the RAZR returned the RAZR and got the Rezound, haven't looked back at all.
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same here totally agree. I did the same thing.
The only problem I have is battery life. It's about the same as stock Incredible life. I know once we get root that will be easy to fix though. I love Sense, so this was a no brainer for me. I can't wait until we start getting some roms out
I upgraded from the incredible and got the Rezound a few days ago, it's kind of laggy but I just read that a factory reset may fix the issue. I kind of want to return it and get the Nexus.
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When I first heard of the big three phones (Rezound, Nexus, RAZR) coming out around the same time, I was torn as to which phone to go with. However, as I started looking at the specs on each phone, the Rezound stuck out as the clear winner for me. The fact that the RAZR does not have a replaceable battery and has the lowest screen resolution became deal breakers on that one. The fact that the Nexus does not have a slot to upgrade memory and the fact I had seen many discussions surrounding Samsung build quality became a deal breaker on that one. With that, the Rezound became the clear choice for me. I upgraded from the Thunderbolt. I have been very impressed so far. The screen is AMAZING on the rezound. The only downer for me with the Rezound right now is the lack of full root and S-off to be able to do some customization and hopefully improve battery life. Personally, I think the Rezound is a great phone!
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My thoughts exactly.
Why is not having soff and root an issue? It's inevitable that we will have it shortly. Is there a single phone.. htc or otherwise on these forums that is not rooted?
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I upgraded from the incredible and got the Rezound a few days ago, it's kind of laggy but I just read that a factory reset may fix the issue. I kind of want to return it and get the Nexus.
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You havn't returned it yet, what are you waiting for?? Trolling? ?
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You havn't returned it yet, what are you waiting for?? Trolling? ?
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It makes it kind of useless to ask for opinions if only one is allowed to be expressed without being called a troll. Besides, he can't take it back now and get the Nexus, can he?
Anyway, the Rezound is by far the greatest phone I've ever owned. The screen is gorgeous, it feels great in your hand, and I haven't noticed any lag at all.
I Love the phone. It feels great in the hand and you can just feel the quality. I had a thunderbolt before this and I hook my phone up through AUX input in my truck EVERY time I drive it. The quality of sound that comes from the rezound is light years ahead of my thunderbolt. Like its a night and day difference, even in pandora the sound quality is WAYYYYYYYYYYY better.
Sounds like the phone is legit....i'm currently on a rooted TBolt and one can honestly say that there isn't much of a difference to the Rezound (albeit hardware), but seems like dev work has just come to a screethching halt and not that I need to be constantly changing ROM's every day (which I will admit to doing on certain occasions) but just feels outdated and a lost cause so root hardly plays a hand in this case anyways.
The rezound being a dual core 1.5 ghz phone certainly is appealing as well as the beats audio integration that I would certainly welcome since i'm always listening to music while running or in the car. Just want to pick your guys' heads on wether purchasing it justify's a bit of an upgrade, but not much per say. Any info is valuable and well appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Oh, another thing to add, the Beats audio only works on the native HTC Music app correct? Doesn't on google music nor Pandora or does it?
correct on beats, alpine.
as for the upgrade being worth it, well, it was for me..i came from the OG inc (july 2010) and although that's a damn good phone, i just wanted something faster and new...and i 100% love this phone, and would do it again in a heartbeat if i had to lol
AHHH! what can i say... the extended battery is awesome, the camera is awesome, no more droped 4g/3g, no more tethering haults... oh and i can HOLD 4g almost anywehre 4g is available ( constant 4-3g swtiching with razr) so happy with this phone, flashed to new RUU w/ cleanrom 4.0. wifi tether works with wpa2. great device, hands down
just curious but what was wrong with the razr? i hear it's a solid phone.
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just curious but what was wrong with the razr? i hear it's a solid phone.
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Unless my wife and I had duds that phone sucks.
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Unless my wife and I had duds that phone sucks.
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ok? well elaborate what "sucked" on it. im asking because im still contemplating getting a razr maxx.
I'd say that everything in the first post that this phone does, the razr didn't do for him.
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I'd say that everything in the first post that this phone does, the razr didn't do for him.
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he must of had a defective device because i haven't seen too many complaints with it compared to the gnexus.
lorfoversho
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I'd say that everything in the first post that this phone does, the razr didn't do for him.
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Thank you lol
Mine does the same, but I killed all threads about it, becuase there is no point.
Any one who says "it's a solid phone" is a light user who can't tell 3g from 4g speed and just wants looks. The gnexus is crap and any rep will be able to tell you why.
This phone is not the best of the best ever, but vs the razr and the gnexus, it's the world saver x3000 + maga super better phone. (ok it's over the top, but you get it.)
I picked the bad phone, to get in on unlimited data and now I will be paying for it intill the end of the year. ( No not becuase of the 2012 thing)
Any way I don't care any more, becuase it work's some times and when it does, it blazing fast. (And I will have a "new" phone by the end of the year)
I also switched from the Droid Razr to the HTC Rezound. Two main reasons are the Razr was too hard to hold when typing and the battery life was too short when using LTE.
The Rezound plus extended battery fixed both of those problems.
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The RAZR is junk for the following reasons:
1.) Can't hold onto 4G.
2.) POOR battery life even with smart actions and no auto sync (I heard this was the same on the MAXX)
3.) Super AMOLED advanced display was garbage. You could see black blobs and this was "normal" according to Motorola.
4.) Non-Removable battery (wouldn't be an issue but battery life sucked)
5.) Locked Bootloader
I'd say the only thing the RAZR had going for it tbh was the physical build. I mean in some retrospects it wasn't a bad phone, but just not for me I use too much juice.
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The RAZR is junk for the following reasons:
1.) Can't hold onto 4G.
2.) POOR battery life even with smart actions and no auto sync (I heard this was the same on the MAXX)
3.) Super AMOLED advanced display was garbage. You could see black blobs and this was "normal" according to Motorola.
4.) Non-Removable battery (wouldn't be an issue if the battery life sucked)
5.) Locked Bootloader
I'd say the only thing the RAZR had going for it tbh was the physical build. I mean in some retrospects it wasn't a bad phone, but just not for me I use too much juice.
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1) So true
2) True but has goten better with 2.3.6
3) This one is true and it piss's me off.
4) 100% dead on
5) This would not be so bad if 1,2 and 4=true.
I think I am stuck with it now, becuase I don't think they will take it back.
the razr maxx would cure your battery issues. as far as non-removable batteries i hate to say it but that may be the way of the future. yes the bootloader is locked but there is still development.
Oh yea, but would it fix this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA
After having a handful of Rezounds that had issues, I move to the Razr Maxx.
I went through 2 Maxx's before I got one without dead pixels.
But now that I finally have a good Maxx, I actually like it a bit more than the Rezound. The Rezound had a better display and a bit better camera. I thought the extended battery for the Rezound would make it better to hold (like it did for the Incredible) but I felt the Rezound was too much like a brick. I forget sometimes that my Maxx is even in my pocket. I never forgot when the Rezound (w/ext battery) was in my pocket
My Maxx, with more mah than the extended battery my Rezound had, gets about 3-4 days with medium use (my medium use wont be the same as yours). My Maxx feels more solid than my Rezound, but im sure that has to do with the fact that the Rezound's door felt somewhat cheaper (my opinion) with the battery contacts located in it.
I tested my Rezounds signal in many places and my Maxx gets 4g more often and my signal is better for calls. I have only had data drop once in the last month and a half.
I also find my Maxx is more smooth. I loaded up Go launcher, and a few other apps, and they operated smoother on the Maxx by far.
These phones are very finicky and while I've had great experiences with the Razr Maxx, another person will have terrible experiences.
In the end, I just keep changing phones until I get one that works the way I want, despite the reviews I read. I'm not bashing HTC. I had an HTC Incredible that I still play with to this day. Just for some reason the Rezound didn't work for me (and I wished it did, I just loved that display.
Did you buy the maxx or were you able by a 10000000000000000 to 1 chance able to swap phones. Mine has a dead pixel, but I can live with it. The part that kills me is the data droping of DOOM. It does well at phone calls, better than my S2 in fact. It seems to hate desktop webpage of youtube. (Video stops playing even with 4g fine. My S2 with the ICS update hates it to, but not the same way.)
Becuase I can't repeat this and it just happens. I am unable to get anywere, so it looks like I will have to live with it for a bit intill I buy a phone again at the end of the year.
Did you have your razor stock cus my wifes has all sorts of crazy force closes with stock and I'm quite disappointed. But this phone kicks ass till the HTC one comes out that is lol
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4ktvs said:
Did you buy the maxx or were you able by a 10000000000000000 to 1 chance able to swap phones. Mine has a dead pixel, but I can live with it. The part that kills me is the data droping of DOOM. It does well at phone calls, better than my S2 in fact. It seems to hate desktop webpage of youtube. (Video stops playing even with 4g fine. My S2 with the ICS update hates it to, but not the same way.)
Becuase I can't repeat this and it just happens. I am unable to get anywere, so it looks like I will have to live with it for a bit intill I buy a phone again at the end of the year.
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After having a handful of Rezounds that had issues, I move to the Razr Maxx.
I went through 2 Maxx's before I got one without dead pixels.
But now that I finally have a good Maxx, I actually like it a bit more than the Rezound. The Rezound had a better display and a bit better camera. I thought the extended battery for the Rezound would make it better to hold (like it did for the Incredible) but I felt the Rezound was too much like a brick. I forget sometimes that my Maxx is even in my pocket. I never forgot when the Rezound (w/ext battery) was in my pocket
My Maxx, with more mah than the extended battery my Rezound had, gets about 3-4 days with medium use (my medium use wont be the same as yours). My Maxx feels more solid than my Rezound, but im sure that has to do with the fact that the Rezound's door felt somewhat cheaper (my opinion) with the battery contacts located in it.
I tested my Rezounds signal in many places and my Maxx gets 4g more often and my signal is better for calls. I have only had data drop once in the last month and a half.
I also find my Maxx is more smooth. I loaded up Go launcher, and a few other apps, and they operated smoother on the Maxx by far.
These phones are very finicky and while I've had great experiences with the Razr Maxx, another person will have terrible experiences.
In the end, I just keep changing phones until I get one that works the way I want, despite the reviews I read. I'm not bashing HTC. I had an HTC Incredible that I still play with to this day. Just for some reason the Rezound didn't work for me (and I wished it did, I just loved that display.
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Amoled's with dead pixels.. Yikes!
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Did you have your razor stock cus my wifes has all sorts of crazy force closes with stock and I'm quite disappointed. But this phone kicks ass till the HTC one comes out that is lol
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My razr has been stock from day 1. I had more force closes with my razr, than I ever did with my S2. ( I am ok with it becuase it's not too crazy like this data thing.)
Yay!
Just another Vigor lover!
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Yay!
Just another Vigor lover!
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Have you had any data drops/ isuses at all in the past 30 days or so?
thanks
I had some issues with it, so now they are sending me a S3 for FREE.
I know some of you may dis like what I said about verizon before, but I just wanted to say good bye.
Edit: I will update this with a "how to" soon on how I did this.
One of the S3 guys asked me to do this, so I will be giving it a shot soon.link to thread with some info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824045
Edit2: Ok now this only work's if you want to use flash player and have gotten the ICS OTA update, so if you don't care zip about it. Then you will not likely be getting a S3 this way and I don't want any one to do it just becuase they want a better phone.
Now on to the "how to" as I like to call it.
The base of this working is to know that ICS can and does in fact work with flash player and that the S3 and more ICS phones work and ARE SUPPORTED by flash/adobe. More on that later, Now To some links and talking points.
1st link to the flash web site and what it say's not what verizon/motoroa say about some BS that flash is NOT SUPPORTED on ICS: http://www.adobe.com/devnet-apps/flashruntimes/certified-devices.html
Now there loads of ISC phones that work with flash like the S3 and more if you look that are on verizon.
2) Now after this ask to swap out for the S3 becuase they both cost the same on the verizon store and you will not take a lesser phone for braking flash on your phone and for the mistake they made they should let you swap your phone for the one you want if they cost the same.
3) If you can't get them to do it at this point then you point out that flash player is listed on your own store with 4.0.4 and that if some one got the phone today for flash and then come home with it and it did not work then he could take it back for a S3, so why can't I? Link: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5852
Now #3 is were I got a S3, but if they still say no. Then I think there is more you can try.
1) Like Going to the BBB/FCC about this.
2) You could say you will go to AT&T. ( I know most of you think they are trash, but Verizon cares a lot more about AT&T than sprint/t-moblie.)
3) You can ask for a for a FULL refund at full retail price, because it does not have some thing working the site say's it does. Then buy and do what you want with the $599.99 or what ever it is.( I did not ask for this, but was going to if a swap did not work at all.)
It's listed under DETAILS>WEB>Webkit 5 HTML Browser, Adobe Flash
I will try and update it more and clean it up a bit, but that should do for now.
Update: I got the phone to day and it works very well so far.
Now I am going to do a quick run down on what I like about it vs the razr and what I like better on the razr.
What I like Vs the razr:
1) The 1.5Ghz S4 is faster by more than what you would think.
2) The 720p 4.8in screen is very nice. ( Not having Super AMOLED "+" is a shame, but for most it's more than you would ever need. Now for me Give me 1080P RGB so I don't see one pixal and that's why I am called 4KTVS.)
3) Having flash player 100% working Is very nice and why I did not want the razr any more. ( I want flash player to work for as long as it can.)
4) The UI is nicer for turning on BT,GPS and so on. ( I just like TW 4 and 5 better than 100% stock over all, but that's just me.)
5) The GPS works better/locks on faster.( I think my razr may have a hardwere issue here so this may not be fair.)
6) The phone has better sound from the phone. ( Not talking about calls, but they have been good so far.)
7) Getting better Down load speeds from wifi and 4G.( Thanks Qualcomm)
8) Wifi holds better/longer better range and get's better upload speeds. ( WIFI on this phone rocks, my razr seemed to have poor wifi so I used 4G all the time. This again could be a hard were issue and may not be fair.)
9) Charging the phone is better. ( It does not need to be "on" to charge from PC usb or any thing like that.)
10) Just is very likely just me, but I like having a home button to hit. ( Not just tap)
What I don't like vs the razr:
1) Tethering under setting's>Wireless and networks>tethering>Usb tethering does not work for free any more. ( I don't know why I was able to do this before, but I miss it still.)
2) It's not "water proof" like the Razr is and I will miss it.
3) I don't like how the back feels vs the razr.
4) 3G/CDMA seem's weeker than the razr so far, but I live in a 4G area with no way to force 3G only. I may need more time on this.
5) I like the size of the razr better vs the S3 do to better able to use with one hand.
I'm happy with my maxx but since I'm bored, I'm all ears
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I just traded my rezound for a razr. Pretty happy with it too. Not really impressed by the S3 but I suppose if I was given one I would use it.
I'm in the process of deciding which phone to pay retail for to keep my unlimited data. Despite the fact s3 is newer, faster processor, better screen etc. I am leaning toward Razr Maxx. This is why:
LED indicators work with light flow without rooting.
Better reception.
Louder speaker.
Better battery life.
The only thing I don't like about the razr maxx is it needs a gamma adjustment....white is much too warm.
Am I nuts to pay $50 more for the old razr maxx? Are my assumptions above true?
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I'm in the process of deciding which phone to pay retail for to keep my unlimited data. Despite the fact s3 is newer, faster processor, better screen etc. I am leaning toward Razr Maxx. This is why:
LED indicators work with light flow without rooting.
Better reception.
Louder speaker.
Better battery life.
The only thing I don't like about the razr maxx is it needs a gamma adjustment....white is much too warm.
Am I nuts to pay $50 more for the old razr maxx? Are my assumptions above true?
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Go for the maxx. It takes time adjusting to not needing batteries or a charger and everything working and working very well.
If the new model comes out with the big battery I may get it but this phone wreaks of cold hard satisfaction!
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I read that the razr hd will have a smaller battery and use more juice for hd screen so I see no reason to wait. Maybe 6 month later the razr MAXX hd will come out?
I'd never trade my Maxx for a Sammy. No frickin' way. But that's me, hope you like it better.
I just got VzW to swap my GNex for a Maxx after 8 months ... after horrendous call quality on the Nexus I don't think I'll ever get another Samsung phone!!
Thus far I am loving the Maxx! Great call quality, unfriggin real battery and reliable data!
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The battery On my razr was very poor on my first one, with data issues all over droping and stuck at 600kbs DL and so on. My 2nd one was better than the 1st one, but it had data issues as well like that. It was a big pain to get all of that fixed. Now that flash player does not work on it, that was it for me, but I am glad you like your phone.
Poor battery on razr MAXX?
It was the non-maxx and yes it ran very hot avg 120F and would not last more than 6 hours with 30min of on screen time. Most of the time less than 4-3 hours with 1 hour of on srceen time. It would get up to the 130-140F range some times as well.
on the phone now with verizon seems to be working!! im talkin calm they are trying to see if it is a noun issue. its not so far i told them about switching to gs3... stay tuned if they say no will get loud and threatin to leave my contract is up
Hope that works for you and don't drop the f-bomb that kind of thing just about never work's. Be cool, but force full.
Good luck
To the OP, I know you had major issues with the RAZR but when your S3 comes in you should post a list of things you like/dislike comparing the two.
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It Just got here and when the battery get's here I will. I will try and be fair about it as I can. I got what I wanted so I will be more clear headed about it.
Edit: I think they are both good looking phone's so that's a + for both and they look about the same size even with the 4.8in screen. I will list more later when the battery come's.
Fail didnt work stayed calm they pushed the rezound hard i said thats not wat i wanted had a bad battery life blah blah blah ughhhh
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I said i was leaving to sprint and nothin! Lol
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Did you do #3? becuase that is what made it for me.
Yup they said the gs3 hasnt been out 30 days the best they could do is rezound...
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I just got VzW to swap my GNex for a Maxx after 8 months ... after horrendous call quality on the Nexus I don't think I'll ever get another Samsung phone!!
Thus far I am loving the Maxx! Great call quality, unfriggin real battery and reliable data!
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Sounds great to me!
I don't know then. I guess my past dealing's with them could have some thing to do with it as well. I will try and think about any thing else I may have said that helped me do the swap.
Sorry that it did not work.
I switched to Verizon a week ago from sprint and a nexus s 4g. I picked the RAZR M because sprint wouldn't repair a faulty refurb they sent me so I needed a phone. The RAZR m was cheap and seemed really solid. In fact its a great phone. However I am of the mindset if you're on Verizon and have the funds go for the DNA. Since Verizon extended their return policy I can use Christmas money and return this. My only concerns with the DNA are
1. Battery life -my RAZR m which gets great life has almost the same size battery.
2. Support -moto is owned by Google and updates are being churned out fast, HTC however has a history of not supporting. The DNA is future proof spec wise but will HTC support.
3. Build quality- after switching to moto build quality has become important. Kevlar back aluminum body etc. Are all present in my "mid range" phone
4. Roms -with my RAZR I've excepted lack of ROMs and dev support, but almost stock makes this acceptable. Sense however is tolerable, but heavy. I could deal with it but would look to replace it later with AOSP
5. Memory-7 the 8gb isn't cutting it , I need the 16gb.
Can anyone who has a DNA or experience with one speak on these? Thanks
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Memory is actually 11gb
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After you root the DNA and flash a new ROM you'll have about 11 gigs for whatever your needs. Many users are reporting that they are not having problems with the battery life, so I think you'll find it acceptable. The DNA has top notch build quality--most HTC phones do. Just go to a Verizon store and check it out. You'll be pleasantly surprised. As far as getting AOSP is concerned, I wouldn't hold your breath just yet. It could happen down the road
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1. Battery life is much better than most reviews say. will last me more than the whole day. Especially with cubed kernel
2. Roms will cover updates
3. the build quality on this phone is amazing! i love the feel of it
5. There's already a few good Roms on the phone, and from what i can see the devs are very talented and will bring lots more roms to this phone!
6. Memory, this phone is advertised with 16 gigs. Stock its 11 gigs available. But once you debloat it becomes closer to the 16 gig mark
I hope HTC doesn't skip us out of future upgrade this phone is to beast to do that.
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Thanks y'all sound confident and happy with your devices. I'll leave the thread open in case any other experts want to chime in. I think I'll collect my earnings for Christmas, then gauge from there . If I have the difference I'll pull the trigger, if not oh well It sounds extremely pleasing to own.
Sense is a lot less resource hungry than what it was. Couple that with 2gb of RAM and a quad core, you're not going to get lag.
The build quality of the DNA is amazing. It as a very solid feel and is definitely durable.
In all honesty the battery is nowhere near as bad as some people make it out to be. sure, it doesn't get the maxx life but its a 2,020mAh and given that it uses a 5" 1080p screen the battery life "fits." even if HTC doesn't update often the developers will certainly pick up the slack.
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This phone is solid as they come in build quality, love the solid feel of it in my hand...that's what she said.
I've had a bad experience with motorola and updates. The photon 4g for sprint is still stuck on gingerbread and will never be updated passed that. The phone was on a list to get ics but moto canned it.
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xisaacbx said:
I've had a bad experience with motorola and updates. The photon 4g for sprint is still stuck on gingerbread and will never be updated passed that. The phone was on a list to get ics but moto canned it.
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Moto sucks I had the razr and hated that damn phone.and it took forever to get ics.moto r very slow on updates
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Yea I'm aware of moto's ****ty history with updates and with lock bootloaders that puts you @ verizon's mercy. But HTC is pretty bad as well. t's just that the Dev community is so exciting for the DNA it won't be an issue. With my razr M however I have practically no reason to visit XDA anymore lol. This is a reason for me contemplating the switch, the deep community behind it. Not Nexus S deep, but enough to satisfy.
Great phone
I won my phone thanks to HTC's ambassador program (you can read about it on htcsource dot com) and I love it! Today was a good testament to the battery as I was out shopping with my wife most of the day and am about to finally plug it in. My previous phone was a One S so I was somewhat already used to the limited amount of storage, but I do think to myself sometimes that 32GB is a much amount. I would love to carry more music since I don't have the luxury of free WiFi at work. The storage had yet to be a deal breaker for me, because there are so many other perks to this phone. I absolutely love the possibilities with NFC and the screen size is freaking awesome to look at.
I say go for it!
After only having Moto smartphones for the last few years, I've never experienced HTC. How are they with their updates?
I know with Moto the updates were taking ages, but looking back it was a little fun trying this and that to get things to work. I forget the saying, but it's something about enjoying the trip more than getting to the destination.
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After only having Moto smartphones for the last few years, I've never experienced HTC. How are they with their updates?
I know with Moto the updates were taking ages, but looking back it was a little fun trying this and that to get things to work. I forget the saying, but it's something about enjoying the trip more than getting to the destination.
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if you have a verizon phone, your updates will take ages, period. moto, htc, samsung, doesn't matter. verizon is who dictates when the updates go out, and they're ALWAYS last.
I got to hold and play with a DNA the other day and man does it feel nice in hand. Top notch build quality, super fast and that screen is amazing. Makes me jealous I'm not due for an up grade but the DNA will definitely get more support and roms than the RAZR simply because moto is so hell bent on locking down their devices
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if you have a verizon phone, your updates will take ages, period. moto, htc, samsung, doesn't matter. verizon is who dictates when the updates go out, and they're ALWAYS last.
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Ya, that's what I'm afraid of because this is a Verizon phone.
Well, once someone figures out our s-on problem we will have the hardware to handle anything.
orangechoochoo said:
Ya, that's what I'm afraid of because this is a Verizon phone.
Well, once someone figures out our s-on problem we will have the hardware to handle anything.
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honestly though, coming from a guy who roots everything, i'm really enjoying the phone stock. i wihs i were rooted so that i could remove the wifi nag and make the recent apps button into a menu button, but other than that, this thing rocks stock.
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honestly though, coming from a guy who roots everything, i'm really enjoying the phone stock. i wihs i were rooted so that i could remove the wifi nag and make the recent apps button into a menu button, but other than that, this thing rocks stock.
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Just a quick fyi to help you enjoy stock better. Just long press the wifi notif and press app info then just force stop it. The annoying notif will be gone til you reboot.
The rommer in me is not satisfied.
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Just a quick fyi to help you enjoy stock better. Just long press the wifi notif and press app info then just force stop it. The annoying notif will be gone til you reboot.
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yeah man, i saw that trick, it works great..problem is i switch wifi on/off throughout the day, so everytime ya do it, you have to force close. so annoying, right? haha