[MOD by APP] Nebtop - Universal HDMI Webtop hack - Motorola Photon 4G

This MOD by APP is different than the existing MOD by replacing system apks:
1. No risk of brick
2. Ease of use
3. Universal hack for phones and ROMs that has Webtop
Since this app is intended to support multiple devices, see the original post from the Razr thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404625 .
Please report the test result in this thread. Whether success or fail and your device, ROM, etc.
It'd be nice to use the "Send" option in the app if it failed.
Thanks!

Working for me on mopho 198_7,rooted,with jokersax 1.3 preuvHighpro! Thank you!

it worked for me too!

It works, but the screen doesn't properly emulate a track pad. Connecting a bluetooth keyboard works fine though.

fendergrab said:
It works, but the screen doesn't properly emulate a track pad. Connecting a bluetooth keyboard works fine though.
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Is anyone else having this problem? I actually have this issue on occasion with the current webtop over HDMI hack that replaces the stock files. But, it doesn't happen all the time, only some of the time.
Also, if anyone can answer this for me, I haven't bought a lapdock yet, but I am considering it, if I do, I think the other webtop over HDMI hack will have to be removed to make the lapdock work, is that true? Second, if that is true, then this method shouldn't have the same problem right?

Please try with the latest version(v0.5). More diagnostic messages are logged and can be sent using the "Send Info" menu item from the app.
fendergrab said:
It works, but the screen doesn't properly emulate a track pad. Connecting a bluetooth keyboard works fine though.
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For the first question, I have no idea since I have never tried the "webtop over HDMI hack that replaces the stock files".
For your last question, if the Webtop related things are restored to the stock, this method will still work thus it should have no interference with the Lapdock.
bradleyw801 said:
Is anyone else having this problem? I actually have this issue on occasion with the current webtop over HDMI hack that replaces the stock files. But, it doesn't happen all the time, only some of the time.
Also, if anyone can answer this for me, I haven't bought a lapdock yet, but I am considering it, if I do, I think the other webtop over HDMI hack will have to be removed to make the lapdock work, is that true? Second, if that is true, then this method shouldn't have the same problem right?
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fendergrab said:
It works, but the screen doesn't properly emulate a track pad. Connecting a bluetooth keyboard works fine though.
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I cant make the track pad work at all. What stock apk files have to be installed for this to work? I am stock rooted with some bloat removed. I am thinking I might have removed one apk file to many...

Could you use the "Send Info" option in the app after you tapped the "Load' button?
my2cents said:
I cant make the track pad work at all. What stock apk files have to be installed for this to work? I am stock rooted with some bloat removed. I am thinking I might have removed one apk file to many...
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400757 said:
Could you use the "Send Info" option in the app after you tapped the "Load' button?
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All give it a go. I tried rebooting my phone, but still no luck. I sent the debug info via email. This is pretty cool. I've never bothered using webtop, but it looks pretty interesting.
EDIT: I already got an email back from the developer. He said that it all looks good, but the extdock state cant be set to 4, which is what mine loads to when I press load. I see what he says.

Yep, it seems that even everything for Razr looks good for Photon 4G, the track pad on the phone could only react to orientation but couldn't receive any touch action.
I will try to first locate this track pad from Razr, and how are the events being sent then inspect if this is working correctly for Photon 4G.
So this may not work at all.
If anyone got any real dock that made the Photon 4G to have the track pad working correctly, please kindly run logcat to log how all these happen and send to me for analysis. This may boost up the progress by differential analysis.
my2cents said:
All give it a go. I tried rebooting my phone, but still no luck. I sent the debug info via email. This is pretty cool. I've never bothered using webtop, but it looks pretty interesting.
EDIT: I already got an email back from the developer. He said that it all looks good, but the extdock state cant be set to 4, which is what mine loads to when I press load. I see what he says.
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I don't have a dock, so i cant be of much help there. Hopefully someone can run the logcat for you. If you need me to test anything else, I will gladly do it.

Now it seems to me that logcat is not enough.
I've figured out that evbridge is the process that draw the virtual pad on the phone and responsible for translating and forwarding touch events to mouse movement and key inputs to the Webtop world.
It seems to be using /dev/webtop/input/event4 as a placeholder for the touch event. But when evbridge is not running, those event devices won't work.
So in the worst case your phone have the evbridge running, some event4 receiving touch events but just that are not being processed and forwarded to the Webtop world.
In this case I will need to look deeper inside evbridge for how it actually emit the events or how the Webtop world see and process them then find out which part is broken.
my2cents said:
I don't have a dock, so i cant be of much help there. Hopefully someone can run the logcat for you. If you need me to test anything else, I will gladly do it.
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More of the "track pad" stuffs have been studied(https://sites.google.com/site/androidnothize/nebtop/webtop). What remain are testers like "my2cents".
In short, we used TeamViewer(on PC) + PuTTY(on PC) + SSHDroid(on phone) + WiFi(connect PC and phone) + time.
In the last test I haven't studied enough of the track pad so couldn't make real use of it. But now I've studied more of it and have sorted out 3 possible points of breaking the chain of events from the touch screen to the Webtop. Unfortunately "my2cents" seems to be on a vacation.
If you know what are these and could prepare these, we could arrange a time that both of us could go online at the same time to perform the investigation.
Send me a PM or email me at either this nick name or another at gmail.

400757 said:
More of the "track pad" stuffs have been studied(https://sites.google.com/site/androidnothize/nebtop/webtop). What remain are testers like "my2cents".
In short, we used TeamViewer(on PC) + PuTTY(on PC) + SSHDroid(on phone) + WiFi(connect PC and phone) + time.
In the last test I haven't studied enough of the track pad so couldn't make real use of it. But now I've studied more of it and have sorted out 3 possible points of breaking the chain of events from the touch screen to the Webtop. Unfortunately "my2cents" seems to be on a vacation.
If you know what are these and could prepare these, we could arrange a time that both of us could go online at the same time to perform the investigation.
Send me a PM or email me at either this nick name or another at gmail.
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Hi 400757,
I was on vacation for new years. I got your email, but it was at 5 AM my time and we left that morning to go see family. I am back at home now and I am happy to help again. I will be available all day tomorrow and possibly tonight. I have to get the kids in bed first...

Follow up of the freshly done live investigation on my2cents's Photon 4G.
Turn out that it is quite different than Razr....that lead to more unknowns and needs a working Photon 4G as the basis to compare with.
One must-fail point is that evbridge is expecting /dev/input/by-id/touchscreen which doesn't exist at all. This is the first problem that made the track pad unresponsive.
Secondly the aev and evfwd input devices are not exposed to the X using xinput like in Razr.
After linking this path to the touch device /dev/input/event4, the track pad buttons became responsive though those events are not forwarded to the Webtop cursor.
strace didn't show further open failure afterward.
Thus in order to ease the life, a working Photon 4G Webtop with track pad is needed for inspection.

Does that mean that if someone has a dock, you could debug that way?

I'm not sure....
If someone has the HD dock, and used it to activate the Webtop mode, and if the track pad works.......
Then later using the Nebtop to activate the Webtop mode should work too.
In contra, if a fresh boot using Nebtop doesn't work, (due to the missing device link) but if the HD dock make it work, then it means there're some extra stuff done by recognizing a real HD dock.
Otherwise, if both Nebtop and HD dock failed, perhaps it's regional issue? eg. Some region's Photon 4G has track pad bug since there will be no selling of HD dock?
The last possibility perhaps related to the "bloat" apps that you've removed/disabled? But this is odd that if the app would create the device link under /dev...
my2cents said:
Does that mean that if someone has a dock, you could debug that way?
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works great on stock rom rooted. but is this where ads that pop up in notification bar?. .... they are driving me crazy!
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ads r driving me crazy! they pop up in my notification bar! are they from this app?!
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[Q] What are the best tweaks?

I am about to receive my new archos 101 later this week. I am reading the forums, and so far i have gathered i will need to put android 2.2 on it, and also the android market. what other tweaks should i do when i get it? Apps i need to know about? This will be the first android i have owned so i do not know where to begin.
If there is a thread that addresses this question, please point me in the right direction. my search didn't come up with much as to a list of things that are essential to getting the most out of the archos 101. thanks!
You should start getting some pills for dissapointment
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Leviuqse said:
You should start getting some pills for dissapointment
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Why would you be disappointed?
I had my archos 101 since November 2010 and I was never disappointed with it.
Its a matter of how you use your device.
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For my Archos 70, when I'm at home I have the screen brightness set to low. When I'm out in the sun I have to turn the brightness up all the way.
minxwin said:
Why would you be disappointed?
I had my archos 101 since November 2010 and I was never disappointed with it.
Its a matter of how you use your device.
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Agreed. I've been very happy with my 101. And I tried several popular alternatives before this. Like the Viewsonic, Nook color, Huewii/Ideos S7, and some knock off chinese clone. The 101 beats them all.
thanks :-D
any news on what i need to do once it is out of the box? On my touch pro 2 it took me forever to realize that the first thing to do was flash a custom rom and other tweaks like OC'ing it. any thing i should do to the archos 101?
well...plug it in and charge it...
If you want root and ability to OC, etc...I think you need to jump down to the UrkDroid threads. I'm very happy with stock and hoping for some way to root it. If you don't upgrade the stock I think z4root works though...as well as some additional codecs, but then you are on Eclair. Upgrade brings Froyo. Can't give you much advice beyond that...just load the market apk and start installing stuff.
willthomason said:
I am about to receive my new archos 101 later this week. I am reading the forums, and so far i have gathered i will need to put android 2.2 on it, and also the android market. what other tweaks should i do when i get it? Apps i need to know about? This will be the first android i have owned so i do not know where to begin.
If there is a thread that addresses this question, please point me in the right direction. my search didn't come up with much as to a list of things that are essential to getting the most out of the archos 101. thanks!
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Check out this thread over on forums archos fans .com . I found a lot of good tips here. (i dont have enough post yet to post an external link.) but under the top thread gen 8 devices there is a post titled newbie tips, and some general set up info.
Something that i have done to really help is upgrade to froyo, then go into the power management and set it to over drive. yes i kills the battery faster, but it seems more responsive. also a new launcher program helps too. i am currently using one called zeam.
I'd say get market, a launcher (adw, launcherpro, zeam) and if you are comfortable with linux, the urukdroid hack. i was a little disappointed with the laginess of my 70 at first, mostly the media scanning but the SDE and Uruk make me jealous of no tablet.
got it today, this thing is nice. i am sitll getting used to android though. I cant get it to access my windows shares though, i input my username/password correctly and it cannot connect...
also, how do i get the codecs on here? must i really pay for them?
willthomason said:
got it today, this thing is nice. i am sitll getting used to android though. I cant get it to access my windows shares though, i input my username/password correctly and it cannot connect...
also, how do i get the codecs on here? must i really pay for them?
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Can't help ya with the shares, but you could try removing security from them for a bit and make sure you can connect. That's just basic troubleshooting.
With regards to codecs, probably not. It comes default with a lot of stuff and I can play almost every video/audio file I have. Only a few needed to be converted. Very few statistically speaking. I think the ones you buy are very specific. So try what you have first.
I've not had to download any codecs. The handfull of videos I have watched worked fine.
Zeam Launcher is a must for me. Fastest Launcher I have seen. Love it so much I put it on my Droid X and my wifes Droid2.
Market and Appbrain is a must as is Flash 10.1. Don't forget to do the "Market Fix" to get all the market apps to show up. Forget the stock keyboard as its a laggy POS. Swype does not work at all but Slideit works great. Well worth the price for the amount of hair you will rip from your head trying to get the stock keyboard to register your inputs.
thanks guys! i will look for the market fix soon as i have noticed a few apps are missing. including zeam.
Also, i cannot figure out how to tether this thing to my wm6.5 tilt 2.
i have always been able to tether windows machines, and i can even make a wireless network with it. however, the archos doesnt find my wireless router network, and when i connect it through usb or bluetooth it asks me for APN and username/password which i have no idea what they are.
any ideas?
willthomason said:
thanks guys! i will look for the market fix soon as i have noticed a few apps are missing. including zeam.
Also, i cannot figure out how to tether this thing to my wm6.5 tilt 2.
i have always been able to tether windows machines, and i can even make a wireless network with it. however, the archos doesnt find my wireless router network, and when i connect it through usb or bluetooth it asks me for APN and username/password which i have no idea what they are.
any ideas?
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I did get mine to tether to my touch pro 2. I had to use blue tooth and for sprint the apn is internet.com ( a quick google search should turn up other carriers) user id and password are usually blank.
I'd say autostarts with Archangel is a nice tweak stupid email app always loads at boot wasting precious milliseconds of my life

[Q] Android Notifications sent to Touchpad?

Not sure if this has been asked yet, searching didn't give me any results anyway - but apologies if its been asked.
HP Touchpad + HP Pre3 connect and the tablet can be used to read text messages etc along with a few other features
So, I was wondering if anyone has fiddled with trying to get Android to connect to WebOS for SMS/Missed call alerts?
closest thing I can think of right now would be using Phone Portal to connect your Motorola device. It uses WiFi and the browser.
Wish there was a way to do that.
Have you tried DeskSMS? It sends your SMS's to your Gmail.
Might be any good?
Bouncer5 said:
Have you tried DeskSMS? It sends your SMS's to your Gmail.
Might be any good?
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Nice one! I think that could be a viable option until someone figures out how to either make an app for android/webos to do it, or something more advanced.
I was just about to post this, theoretically it shouldn't be impossible to achieve although I'm far from an expert in the area (read: not an expert at all). I'd happily donate to any developers which could create a patch for it, as I'm sure would many other touchpad owners.
Blank2k2 said:
Nice one! I think that could be a viable option until someone figures out how to either make an app for android/webos to do it, or something more advanced.
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Glad I could help!
I was reading somewhere else about this, Someones looking to transfer by bluetooth, as any other option currently would no be viable apparently
Bouncer5 said:
Glad I could help!
I was reading somewhere else about this, Someones looking to transfer by bluetooth, as any other option currently would no be viable apparently
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Yep, I'm expecting a bluetooth app for it.
Must admit i'm annoyed with how restricted the feature is - i mean the car, tv, and pc can all get text alerts from the phone. (Actually that's a lie, the car stopped getting text messages when i went to android)
So i'm sure its doable, its just a matter of getting a dev interested in doing it - unfortunately I wouldn't know where to start.
Blank2k2 said:
Yep, I'm expecting a bluetooth app for it.
Must admit i'm annoyed with how restricted the feature is - i mean the car, tv, and pc can all get text alerts from the phone. (Actually that's a lie, the car stopped getting text messages when i went to android)
So i'm sure its doable, its just a matter of getting a dev interested in doing it - unfortunately I wouldn't know where to start.
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Well aint you all fancy!
My phone bearly gets texts messages nevermind anything else!
There's already a discussion about this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230370
See the last post in the thread.
Port your number to google voice. Then I have txt sent and missed calls going to email.

[Q] Question teamview, iteleport

hi guys,
My friend and i were playing poker on our computers using our tabs.
He has an ipad2 wich use iteleport
I got a galaxy tab 10.1 and i used teamview
We both succeed to play with similar controls except for one thing:
With teamview i have to drag the mouse cursor over the action button or the area i want to press
With iteleport the "touchscreen" ability stay in, making him really more efficient
Now here is the question:
Is there any other program for android that will let me control my pc WITH the possibility of using the "touchscreen" way of moving the cursor
Thanks for ur help
anyone can help ?
am sure some peoples are using another program than teamview
did you tried to use a remote desktop client li extralogic one?
Albertotuchi said:
did you tried to use a remote desktop client li extralogic one?
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am not sure i understand what you are trying to say.
Teamviewer is installed on my tab and on my pc, thats why i can take control of the pc.
what im looking for is a way to not "drag" the cursor once connected.
with teamviewer, with the tab, i have to drag the cursor
with iteleport, with the ipad, you just tap where you want the cursor to be
i guess i ask for something that doesnt exist since nobody has replyed
5 Minutes of googling and I came up with "Logmein". It's expensive, though, but it works how you want. You are able to move the mouse relatively like on Teamviewer, but you can use "absolute" input, like a touchscreen.
I also heard logmein works well
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Localhorst86 said:
5 Minutes of googling and I came up with "Logmein". It's expensive, though, but it works how you want. You are able to move the mouse relatively like on Teamviewer, but you can use "absolute" input, like a touchscreen.
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yea i saw that 30$ for an apps, ill look around to see how it really work
thanks

Which roms work best with Nebtop app

I am so frustrated with getting the web top working on my device (without dock). I have the NotattichTrix rom and I can get the nebtop to get the device to mirror the desktop but it never actually enters the web top environment (it is installed though)...
Please help
You don't need Nebtop. NotattichTrix rom has webtop hdmi hack baked in.
zomgno1 said:
You don't need Nebtop. NotattichTrix rom has webtop hdmi hack baked in.
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That would explain why I would get the pull down notification with the list of HDMI options (webtop, mirror, entertainment center...ect) before I even opened Nebtop. I still thought that the mere installation of that app is what led to that drop down appearing (sans dock of course)... Now I know
thank you sir

Asus Keyboard on pad -- issue/question

Hi, I searched this forum and didn't find what I wanted.
After using the Asus Keyboard on my 300t, I noticed that the swype like action is only functional under certain conditions. When Browsing, using SuperNote, or Polaris office, it works very well. BUT when I use another apk--- say with a simple AutoCompleteTextView field, I only can hen peck.
Does anyone know how to enable a apk to fully utilize the Asus Keyboard.
I found this annoying too. I've installed Swype (beta) and found it works well, much better than Asus' attempt.
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Unfortunately in my case using theTF300T' swype crashes continuously! ANDing to that iiritation' the email support address for the beta of swype bounced, so no support as yet. I still wonder what stops the Asus Keyboard From working on some apps- Does anyone have thoughts on this. ¿
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JoelParke said:
Unfortunately in my case using theTF300T' swype crashes continuously! ANDing to that iiritation' the email support address for the beta of swype bounced, so no support as yet. I still wonder what stops the Asus Keyboard From working on some apps- Does anyone have thoughts on this. ¿
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No, I had noticed though and it drove me crazy. Good thing I really only use the dock to type now lol
Really though, no idea. Maybe someone or a dev could pick through the apk's code and offer some insight?
buxtahuda said:
No, I had noticed though and it drove me crazy. Good thing I really only use the dock to type now lol
Really though, no idea. Maybe someone or a dev could pick through the apk's code and offer some insight?
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Thus far, I have tried:
AutoCompleteTextView, and
MultiAutoCompleteTextView.
No help.... -- I am guessing that the apk somehow signals to the Asus keyboard, the sort of support it wants. BUT I haven't been able to see any document to that effect, etc. But I will keep looking...
I called tech support at Asus this evening. After a long conversation --- which got me no where, it seems that I will have to wait until someone who has worked more with this Virtual Keyboard, chimes in. I attempted to use hierarchyviewer to look at the widgets in SuperNote for example. BUT since this is not an emulator, I learned that hierarchyviewer is useless with a real device.
I attempted to contact swype once more and I learned a bit more. The latest beta does better, but still have issues. The very latest swype and it now says: display size not supported... But I was able to send a message to the right person, so I am now hopeful that this will be resolved on the 300t.
JoelParke said:
I called tech support at Asus this evening. After a long conversation --- which got me no where, it seems that I will have to wait until someone who has worked more with this Virtual Keyboard, chimes in. I attempted to use hierarchyviewer to look at the widgets in SuperNote for example. BUT since this is not an emulator, I learned that hierarchyviewer is useless with a real device.
I attempted to contact swype once more and I learned a bit more. The latest beta does better, but still have issues. The very latest swype and it now says: display size not supported... But I was able to send a message to the right person, so I am now hopeful that this will be resolved on the 300t.
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Hmmm. I know he's sick ATM and everything, but I wonder if we couldn't drop this by Gary and have him move it along the right channels to whoever would be responsible for their exclusive apps? Just seems to me that the feature should work across the board, I don't understand why the one keyboard app should act differently through scenarios (aside from number-only and password fields and such).
I may find the time to take a look at the apk although I'm no programmer lol
If you are rooted, you can install Keyboard Manager from the play store.
That will allow you to automatically switch to the Asus keyboard when you dock and then you should not have as many issues.
I had problems with auto-correct using Swift Key X and the dock. That solved my issues.
Good thought but I don't dock at present. I just hope they fix it!
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Hmmm. I know he's sick ATM and everything, but I wonder if we couldn't drop this by Gary and have him move it along the right channels to whoever would be responsible for their exclusive apps? Just seems to me that the feature should work across the board, I don't understand why the one keyboard app should act differently through scenarios (aside from number-only and password fields and such).
I may find the time to take a look at the apk although I'm no programmer lol
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That's a great idea and I hope you are successful.
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