Thanks so much to all those who helped me root! It was nothing short of a miracle.
Anyhoo, prior to rooting, I read that having root access is not a good idea for those who don't know what they are doing because they could really mess things up. Therefore, I need to know what NOT to do.
Also, should I disable debugging again or leave it as it was during the root process?
From what I've read it looks like even if you mess it up bad you can recover to new with the SD card method or 8x failed boot.
If this is your first time rotting any device, i would suggest you to use the search function religiously, and please keep asking questions if you are unsure of anything.
Almost the whole process can be redone with no harm to the device, ie bricking. Some booboo may make it a bit harder to fix, like erasing your keyboard apk or just generally not double checking your work before rebooting the device, ie granting permission and ocerwriting files. Use titanium backup, it is your best friend.
I would suspect the hardest thing to achieve is establishing usb debugging on your pc, looking for the long string of numbers when you initially run Indirect's script. He has done a lot for our community, given us a lot of the tools that we use.
Last but not least, use the "thank you" button if someone helped you.
Ps: in that order: allow install from unknown source, uncheck/recheck both usb debugging, uncheck automount.
Welcome!
rvr350 said:
If this is your first time rotting any device, i would suggest you to use the search function religiously, and please keep asking questions if you are unsure of anything.
Almost the whole process can be redone with no harm to the device, ie bricking. Some booboo may make it a bit harder to fix, like erasing your keyboard apk or just generally not double checking your work before rebooting the device, ie granting permission and ocerwriting files. Use titanium backup, it is your best friend.
I would suspect the hardest thing to achieve is establishing usb debugging on your pc, looking for the long string of numbers when you initially run Indirect's script. He has done a lot for our community, given us a lot of the tools that we use.
Last but not least, use the "thank you" button if someone helped you.
Ps: in that order: allow install from unknown source, uncheck/recheck both usb debugging, uncheck automount.
Welcome!
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How often do I need to do this? I thought it was only during the root process, but is it every time I boot up or something?
Thanks for the help
KnowNothing said:
How often do I need to do this? I thought it was only during the root process, but is it every time I boot up or something?
Thanks for the help
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You set usbdebugging prior to your very first rooting attempt, and unless specified by a dev, leave that setting enabled. It's been known you may have to "uncheck/recheck" usb debugging to achieve root or block OTA or other functions, don't ask me why.
Whew--OK, then I should be good to go!
One last question (yeah right)!
If I only got as far as blocking the OTA to the point where my software version says "unavailable"--am I safe from the OTA? I didn't get so far as restoring the BN stuff.
KnowNothing said:
One last question (yeah right)!
If I only got as far as blocking the OTA to the point where my software version says "unavailable"--am I safe from the OTA? I didn't get so far as restoring the BN stuff.
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don't quote me, but i believe there were instances where OTA was pushed even with "unavailable" version number. Your ultimate goal is to get 9.9.9 using Indirect's script. here's what i did:
First i backup my original .com.bn.devicemanager in case i made a mistake. I erase any previous restore copy of devicemgr in Titanium backup of devicemanager. Go to dev setting, and uncheck/rechck usb debugging (see?), load the contents of indirect's KillOTA zip files into your Titanium backup folder on your SD card. Hit restore (app+data), and voila! Then check settings page, you should be 999 now.
Rooting is a fairly easy and safe process.. If you use Titanium Backup it is generally a good idea to freeze apps instead of deleting them.
Read, enjoy, and ask questions if you cant find the answer before doing anything you are unsure about..
KnowNothing said:
One last question (yeah right)!
If I only got as far as blocking the OTA to the point where my software version says "unavailable"--am I safe from the OTA? I didn't get so far as restoring the BN stuff.
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I would suggest looking at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405418
Having the software version at "unavailable" might be sufficient, but Indirect's method sounds even more promising (and won't cause B&N services to function in an odd way should you choose to use them).
[edit] I'm too slow. Too many people trying to help!
I did root yesterday (a long, arduous process for someone like me!) but I just wanted to make sure that what I did yesterday is still current for blocking the OTA, even though I only got as far as getting my software version to say "unavailable"--(meaning, BN store and whatnot no longer works for me.)
Or, do I need to do the whole process that was shown on the video "How to block the OTA update" ?
Even though "unavailable" may be sufficient, but Indirect has given us a zip files that we patch in our SD card's tb folder. Given his track record, i'd say stick with his method here's the link.
OK, thanks! LOL, more for me to work on today. What seems easy peasy to most is like hieroglyphics to me The part I didn't do was the "restore DeviceManagerService"--I'm such a NooB.
Hi ..
Just read this, you might not have yet... read "How to block OTA updates" last two pages.
Beyound 70yrs said:
Hi ..
Just read this, you might not have yet... read "How to block OTA updates" last two pages.
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Eek. So I'll definitely need to do that then. I only got as far as freezing the device mgr lol! I was really hoping that was enough since I'm so incompetent at this.
Still learning all this, but have what is probably a very stupid questions. I understand all, but what does "RESTORE" DeviceManagerService mean. What does the RESTORE part mean? Is it just copy over the original version with an updated one or is it something you click-on to restore?
moviecouple said:
Still learning all this, but have what is probably a very stupid questions. I understand all, but what does "RESTORE" DeviceManagerService mean. What does the RESTORE part mean? Is it just copy over the original version with an updated one or is it something you click-on to restore?
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When you are in Titanium and tap on DeviceManagerService 2.3.4, you should first tap "Backup" and then at that point if you tap DeviceManagerService 2.3.4 again you should see the "restore" button.
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Fair warning: I've never rooted a phone before. I've dabbled in ADB with my nook color, but am far from comfortable with it. I installed Honeycomb on the nook color, then decided to just go simple with autonooter.
Now, I'm thinking of rooting my new Thunderbolt. Mostly because I'd like to get rid of all of the bloatware and try to get all of the performance out of my phone as I can get. After having the Droid1 for a couple of years, I do not want to see my phone get laggy like my D1 did.
So here come the beginner questions: once I root the phone, I know I need to get ROM Manager and Titanium Backup. Those apps will let me be able to get back all of my data and preferences, etc once I switch ROMs right?
What else will I need after rooting? Is it a simple process to flash a new ROM?
Can anyone suggest a (mostly) stock ROM that just gets rid of the bloatware and gives the phones performance a boost?
Also, does a rooted phone require a lot of maintenance? For instance, will I have to be updating ROMS often? Also, if an OTA comes out for non-rooted phones, do these updates get worked into the ROMs quickly? I dont want to be without a necessary update, ya know?
Last question: Once I root my phone, should I just cancel the insurance on the phone? Or does "voiding the warranty" only mean that VZW wont fix it for free?
Thanks!
First off, I highly recommend following this rooting method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616 and not using the easy root method. If you have any problems at all, you can log into http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951190 and get some help. I also highly recommend reading up a bit on ADB, what it is and how it works http://www.xda-developers.com/android/adb-easy-tutorial/
Then...once you get rooted use ROM Manager to flash the clockworkmod recovery. In ROM Manager there's a little fix that everyone's been doing: open ROM Manager, menu>clear download cache, then settings>erase recovery. Then do your backup before you do anything else like flashing another ROM. Use Titanium to backup all your apps. I recommend the paid versions of both since you will be using them a lot.
Added: What I usually do the first time: Root, backup rom, install debloated rom, set everything up like I want it and then backup again. Each time I flash a new ROM, I create a backup of it all set up and with the name so that I can easily switch back and forth. I like change
The basic debloat rom is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000103
It's easy to flash a new ROM, just download the one you want, put it on your sdcard and then use ROM Manager to 'install from sdcard'
You are going to be flashing ROMs left and right because they come out so fast. Each time an update is out, it'll be put into a ROM and released for all of us here so that you stay current. Most OTA updates will remove your root, so I wouldn't suggest applying them. Many ROMs will block the OTA updates, but not all of them do; at least in my experience.
I would not recommend getting rid of your insurance, it is different than the warranty and you can get your phone replaced if it's ever damaged. I've used it 3 times now all on rooted phones. It indeed will void the warranty.
Happy rooting!
^ +1. I did use the easy root method and had no problems with it but it is truly still hit or miss. I am sure it will get better as more developers start pushing new stuff out.
Good luck
Thanks for the reply!
Why dont you recommend using the easy root method that I've been reading so much about? I realize it has some faults, but I'm planning on waiting until an updated version comes out. I'm a bit afraid to brick my phone while trying to root the phone myself.
Also, after rooting, how can i do a backup of my apps? Doesnt rooting wipe all of the data on my phone?
Learning ADB would be helpful...I must admit, I am an easy root junkie. I just don't have the time to learn ADB. Maybe someday that will change.
Rooting will wipe your phone and I use Titanium Backup to back up my apps. It does make it a lot easier once you start flashing ROMs on a daily basis
Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
-Gilgamesh- said:
Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
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Thanks! After watching a video of someone rooting, I think I will be able to do the non-easy method.
-Gilgamesh- said:
Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
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This reason as well as you can get instant support in irc.
Zalyia38 said:
This reason as well as you can get instant support in irc.
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Thanks.
So to answer my previous question: When rooting, I'm still going to lose all of my current information including apps, sms, etc. However, its good to backup my phone before installing the debloated rom.
Is that correct?
Correct - when you root your phone, you're wiping everything except the sdcard, so you need to backup your apps and such.
And we should stop using the term 'not-easy' root ... how about 'less easy', it's not as scary
Another quick question: I downloaded all of the necessary files.
When I try to open up the RUU_Mecha zip file, it tells me that the file is invalid or corrupted.
I've downloaded it twice from different sources and this happened both times.
Any idea why this is the case?
Can anyone point me to where I can get a non-corrupt version?
CorporateGoth said:
Correct - when you root your phone, you're wiping everything except the sdcard, so you need to backup your apps and such.
And we should stop using the term 'not-easy' root ... how about 'less easy', it's not as scary
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Even better call it the Original Root Method........
pman555 said:
Another quick question: I downloaded all of the necessary files.
When I try to open up the RUU_Mecha zip file, it tells me that the file is invalid or corrupted.
I've downloaded it twice from different sources and this happened both times.
Any idea why this is the case?
Can anyone point me to where I can get a non-corrupt version?
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you don't open the files. The exploit one is the one you unpackage to your tools directory. The other you will put on your sdcard when told too. you can join #root and get help if you want.
as far as apps, the market 'should' reload all your apps when you wipe data just give it time. Then use titanium to back them all up.
So ADB is basically finding the root copy and paste and run ? .
Capt.D said:
Even better call it the Original Root Method........
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I like that one
jawonder said:
So ADB is basically finding the root copy and paste and run ? .
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ADB is learning what you are doing to your phone instead of letting a program do it for you. Copy/paste is just so there are no typos if you don't feel as comfortable typing it all out. I recommend reading up on ADB so that you have a bit of knowledge of what you are doing.
do i need to use the titanium backup before i try and root or after i'm rooted
Irish Whiskey said:
do i need to use the titanium backup before i try and root or after i'm rooted
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Titanium backup only works after you're rooted.
You can use a program like Mybackup Pro to backup stuff like sms mms, etc.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
As a first time rooter myself, I ended up doing the original root process. The well written instructions helped me not to feel paranoid and I breezed through the steps. While, I was confident in rooting the phone because of the instructions, I don't feel so confident post root because I don't know how to do many of the elements like flash roms, kernels, apply mods, etc. So my question is, are there any guides for flashing new roms and the steps taken before and after? For instance, let's say I wanted to flash adrynalyne's no bloat rom, and his mod package, how do I go about doing it? Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Zalyia38 said:
Most OTA updates will remove your root, so I wouldn't suggest applying them. Many ROMs will block the OTA updates, but not all of them do; at least in my experience.
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If I root and remove bloatware manually, will OTA updates occur automatically, or do I have the option of blocking them. Would they re-install all of the bloatware I removed?
Ok.
My phone apparently hates me ... but I can't figure out where the hell I'm going wrong.
I had 1.57 on my phone, rooted. I did the OTA update to 1.83. Then I ran Gingerbreak. After rooting, I put Greyblur on my phone, so I thought I had root access since SystemRestore ran.
I now have root, theoretically ... but I can't see half the files that I used to be able to (when I mount /system as r/w I can't write to it ...). [edit]Also, I can't "adb shell mount" ... I can push/pull files from the /system directory, but I can't edit them directly either through RootExplorer or "adb shell; $su" etc.[/edit]
I can't see user data in my files; it looks like TitaniumBackup can, since it's creating backup files, but I don't trust that it's actually getting all my user data.
I want to redo my phone from scratch, but I'm worried I won't be able to actually save all my user data/databases/etc from programs ... things that say they save to the sdcard on this seem to save to /mnt/sdcard on the Atrix (not sdcard-ext)... which is actually the internal memory of the phone, not the removable sdcard (AFAICT).
Any chance anyone can help with this? Or do I have to just try to back up what I can, reflash to 1.26, root, "beforeupdate", update to 1.57, "after update", 1.83, gingerbreak, and hope for the best?
Any help is appreciated. Very valuable help will be rewarded with beer donations, etc.
Thanks in advance.
ViperFUD said:
things that say they save to the sdcard on this seem to save to /mnt/sdcard on the Atrix (not sdcard-ext)... which is actually the internal memory of the phone, not the removable sdcard (AFAICT).
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This question is being asked allot lately. You kind of answered it yourself in a literal way: As far as your phone is concerned, you are transferring the files to sd. Your not using the apps2extsd app (because it doesn't exist afaik). I know thats only one part of your question, hope you get the answers you need.
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This question is being asked allot lately. You kind of answered it yourself in a literal way: As far as your phone is concerned, you are transferring the files to sd. Your not using the apps2extsd app (because it doesn't exist afaik). I know thats only one part of your question, hope you get the answers you need.
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Right ... and the point of this is that if I remove my (physical) SD Card to preserve my files, it won't actually do anything because it's the INTERNAL memory that has my files/databases/etc.
Again, there's a bounty on solving this problem for me ... hopefully people look at this thread
ViperFUD said:
Right ... and the point of this is that if I remove my (physical) SD Card to preserve my files, it won't actually do anything because it's the INTERNAL memory that has my files/databases/etc.
Again, there's a bounty on solving this problem for me ... hopefully people look at this thread
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I think you missed the point. Apps2sd is not to "preserve" anything, but for phones lacking enough memory to install the apps users want. We are lucky with the Atrix. We will probably never fill it up to the point we cant install anymore apps, but other phones have that problem. This is the purpose of apps2sd. If you want preservation use TiBU. Again I know this was only part of your question and wish you luck in finding the solutions you need.
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I think you missed the point. Apps2sd is not to "preserve" anything, but for phones lacking enough memory to install the apps users want. We are lucky with the Atrix. We will probably never fill it up to the point we cant install anymore apps, but other phones have that problem. This is the purpose of apps2sd. If you want preservation use TiBU. Again I know this was only part of your question and wish you luck in finding the solutions you need.
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Yeah, I have/use TiBU (PRO) ... what I am not sure of is:
1. If I flash the 1.26 sbf to my phone, will the TiBU backups get deleted from my internal memory? Or do I need to save them to my PC first (will probably do this anyway).
2. If I later reinstall from my TiBU backups, will all my saved games, program databases, etc, also be imported back onto the phone?
3. Are there other files that I need that I'd want to back up, but I won't be able to because I don't really have root?
4. How can I be certain that I actually have root access, and not some half-assed root access that Moto/ATT let me have while hiding full system access?
5. Why can I no longer mount my /system folder as r/w, along with not being able to see /system/data?
That's all, I think.
Thanks.
Best,
Viper
ViperFUD said:
Yeah, I have/use TiBU (PRO) ... what I am not sure of is:
1. If I flash the 1.26 sbf to my phone, will the TiBU backups get deleted from my internal memory? Or do I need to save them to my PC first (will probably do this anyway).
2. If I later reinstall from my TiBU backups, will all my saved games, program databases, etc, also be imported back onto the phone?
3. Are there other files that I need that I'd want to back up, but I won't be able to because I don't really have root?
4. How can I be certain that I actually have root access, and not some half-assed root access that Moto/ATT let me have while hiding full system access?
5. Why can I no longer mount my /system folder as r/w, along with not being able to see /system/data?
That's all, I think.
Thanks.
Best,
Viper
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Back them up to your PC. SBF shouldn't clear your external/internal SD card, but most will wipe /data/ partition which contains all of the app settings and data.
They should be, yes.
Anything you can backup, you should. I'm not sure what you mean by you "don't really have root." Check for Superuser in your app drawer. If it's not there, install it. Gingerbreak/Gingerblur delete a LOT of stuff when you use them. I personally avoid them for this very reason.
There's no such thing as "half-assed root access." You either have it, or you don't. Make sure the su binary is in /system/bin and that you have Superuser.apk installed and listed in your app drawer.
What error messages is it giving you when you try?
Ririal said:
Back them up to your PC. SBF shouldn't clear your external/internal SD card, but most will wipe /data/ partition which contains all of the app settings and data.
They should be, yes.
Anything you can backup, you should. I'm not sure what you mean by you "don't really have root." Check for Superuser in your app drawer. If it's not there, install it. Gingerbreak/Gingerblur delete a LOT of stuff when you use them. I personally avoid them for this very reason.
There's no such thing as "half-assed root access." You either have it, or you don't. Make sure the su binary is in /system/bin and that you have Superuser.apk installed and listed in your app drawer.
What error messages is it giving you when you try?
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1. I planned to
2. That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure.
3. I have Superuser, and TiBU and RootEx both think they have root.
4. See #3; however, I couldn't do some stuff I wanted to (like edit /system/etc/hosts. Also, i figured out why i couldn't find "/system/data/" ... because I'm an idiot and i should've been looking for /data/system/ !)
5. Well, now it's working. Very Strange. RootEx force closed on me, and when it reopened it's now working.
WTF man.
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1. I planned to
2. That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure.
3. I have Superuser, and TiBU and RootEx both think they have root.
4. See #3; however, I couldn't do some stuff I wanted to (like edit /system/etc/hosts. Also, i figured out why i couldn't find "/system/data/" ... because I'm an idiot and i should've been looking for /data/system/ !)
5. Well, now it's working. Very Strange. RootEx force closed on me, and when it reopened it's now working.
WTF man.
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Sometimes TiBu and RootExplorer need to be restarted for root to take place. I'd say at this point (If you haven't already.), give your phone a reboot. That might smooth any other issues out.
Ririal said:
Sometimes TiBu and RootExplorer need to be restarted for root to take place. I'd say at this point (If you haven't already.), give your phone a reboot. That might smooth any other issues out.
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Thanks man.
I sent you a beer
I'm thinking about trying GladAtrix (ZOMG you made that) instead of GreyBlur, but I wanted to make sure I wouldn't lose all my **** when I flashed back to 1.8.3.
Best,
Viper
ViperFUD said:
Thanks man.
I sent you a beer
I'm thinking about trying GladAtrix (ZOMG you made that) instead of GreyBlur, but I wanted to make sure I wouldn't lose all my **** when I flashed back to 1.8.3.
Best,
Viper
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Look for the service SBF for 1.83. There's two versions, one that wipes /data and one that doesn't. If you use the one that doesn't (I have SEVERAL times), you should be good to go.
Ririal said:
Look for the service SBF for 1.83. There's two versions, one that wipes /data and one that doesn't. If you use the one that doesn't (I have SEVERAL times), you should be good to go.
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Ririal,
Sorry to bug you again, but is this the SBF you are using? It was the only 1.8.3 sbf I could find ....
Thanks.
ViperFUD said:
Ririal,
Sorry to bug you again, but is this the SBF you are using? It was the only 1.8.3 sbf I could find ....
Thanks.
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I think that's the same one, but just to be safe use this one here: http://gititbit.ch/sbf7
EDIT: bookmark http://gitbrew.org/atrix has pretty much everything all in one place
Hi guys. been a while since I rooted my legend..
After jumping from htc`s -> lg(crap) -> samsung`s to motorola razr I`ve decided to stay. I love this phone, been a while since I got this feeling. It seems the manufacturers are releasing new models every week now.
But I want to root my Razr so I can freeze some bloatware. Hate all that crap the manufacturers keep shoving down our throats.
But when reading page up and page down in these forums I get confused about all the abbrivations and terms. Could somebody point me where to look or explain a little?
I`ve visited the faq, wiki, android general and couldnt find any "low level" answers..
-root, will i be able to receive OTA (ICS when it arrives)
-bootloaders, safestrap, bootstrap etc.. what does these mean?
-what do i have to do to keep it safe and "toy around a little" without bricking it? cwm/titanium/nandroid backup, do i need all these? what is the way to go, can i do a complete backup with all apps and settings even in widgets?
sorry for all the questions, but the search functions and threads are quite overwhelming..
and thumbs up for all devs and people that make XDA so great.. i am happy to donate via paypal to these people! keep up the good work..
(if i posted this in the worng forum, i apologize in advance)
buljo said:
Hi guys. been a while since I rooted my legend..
After jumping from htc`s -> lg(crap) -> samsung`s to motorola razr I`ve decided to stay. I love this phone, been a while since I got this feeling. It seems the manufacturers are releasing new models every week now.
But I want to root my Razr so I can freeze some bloatware. Hate all that crap the manufacturers keep shoving down our throats.
But when reading page up and page down in these forums I get confused about all the abbrivations and terms. Could somebody point me where to look or explain a little?
I`ve visited the faq, wiki, android general and couldnt find any "low level" answers..
-root, will i be able to receive OTA (ICS when it arrives)
-bootloaders, safestrap, bootstrap etc.. what does these mean?
-what do i have to do to keep it safe and "toy around a little" without bricking it? cwm/titanium/nandroid backup, do i need all these? what is the way to go, can i do a complete backup with all apps and settings even in widgets?
sorry for all the questions, but the search functions and threads are quite overwhelming..
and thumbs up for all devs and people that make XDA so great.. i am happy to donate via paypal to these people! keep up the good work..
(if i posted this in the worng forum, i apologize in advance)
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You should post un Q&A forum.
But i'll answer to you anyway.
so if you're still in 2.3.5 it's really easy to root just head to this thread:
Windows :::
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341578
Linux:::
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342567
1) Root wont break OTA (it will if you install custom ROM)
2) With this root method you have BOOTSTRAP, wich install custom recovery(cwm) i dont really know the difference between this and safestrap, i used only bootstrap.
3) The better way (in my opinion) is to use this root method, install bootstrap and reboot to recovery and do a backup. After this you can play around with titanium backup freeze bloatware etc...
Have fun with your razr it's a master piece!
Thread moved to General Forums.
It is simple, If your Thread title can be written in form of a question, it does not belong to development section.
Have a nice day.
thanks for answer.
good about receiving OTA`s..
what is bootstrap exactly?
on the rooting you provided the link to, the OP mentions it is adviced to an adb pull/system?
also, is the backup stored on the SD or internal? should i make a "goldcard" or is that only for model specific phones?
thanks..
buljo said:
thanks for answer.
good about receiving OTA`s..
what is bootstrap exactly?
on the rooting you provided the link to, the OP mentions it is adviced to an adb pull/system?
also, is the backup stored on the SD or internal? should i make a "goldcard" or is that only for model specific phones?
thanks..
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Boot strap is a way of running new firmwares, without actually installing it to the system folders/partitions. A little like running two OS:es on the same computer.
Pulling adb system is doing a backup of your system folder, since there are almost no .sbf files out, recovering can be difficult if you delete the wrong things.
(an .sbf is essentially a "recovery cd" for your phone.)
Safest way to do it, is simply:
Don't delete apps in system folder. Only use "freeze" in whatever root uninstaller you decide to use.
Yahoo and blur apps must not be altered, you can't make calls without them as it is now.
The most important tweak is IMO, killing Google maps, as it runs in the background.
A Goldcard is unnecessary on this phone, since it has the "app to sd" partition built in.
ed: No automatic backup is done, it's up to you. (I didn't do one and had to reinstall with a .sbf) >_<
thanks for the excellent explanation..
so bootstrap makes the system files avaiable and untouched as long as i dont delete them?
also killing google maps, then i would not have actual google maps or navigation on my phone? i use this application now and then..
Am I right in saying that once you have rooted and have CWM recovery that you could do a NANDroid backup as soon as you have rooted, and copy this comewhere safe on your pc in order that if you make a boo boo and it won't OTA update, you can then do a TB of all your current apps / data, boot into CWM, restore your NANDroid backup which should take your phone "back in time" to the point just after you rooted, and restore your apps / data after installing TB from the market, THEN receive the OTA?
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ok, i`ve rooted the Razr, installed bootstrap and adb pull / system.
but one thing i think i might have done wrong..?
i`ve enabled safe system in the recovery menu. and it took a backup of my system to the emmc..
then i rebooted and nothing happened. held down power and volume down for 6 seconds. a little flicker came and was able to go back to safe menu and disable the safe mode.
booted up normal.
im guessing i am missing something here. a partition to boot or something?
edit 2. okay, i obviously need a rom.. can i use my original rom?
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Am I right in saying that once you have rooted and have CWM recovery that you could do a NANDroid backup as soon as you have rooted, and copy this comewhere safe on your pc in order that if you make a boo boo and it won't OTA update, you can then do a TB of all your current apps / data, boot into CWM, restore your NANDroid backup which should take your phone "back in time" to the point just after you rooted, and restore your apps / data after installing TB from the market, THEN receive the OTA?
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Sounds about right, yep. =)
is it possible to get my 2.3.5 stock android out of the phone as an update.zip so i can use it as my 2nd system with bootstrap?
got the bootstrap succesfully, but got no rom to play with..
I am on WW 21, Titanium Backup is installed, but since I lost the root after the last update, Titanium no longer works and I cannot re-root.
I would like to make a factory reset of the Prime and not to lose my installed programs.
What should I use to do that. The Prime is not unlocked.
Is there a simple app that can make a backup of my apps.
Regards
bimbobo said:
I am on WW 21, Titanium Backup is installed, but since I lost the root after the last update, Titanium no longer works and I cannot re-root.
I would like to make a factory reset of the Prime and not to lose my installed programs.
What should I use to do that. The Prime is not unlocked.
Is there a simple app that can make a backup of my apps.
Regards
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Google is your friend!
Could use the included AppBackup from ASUS. I'm pretty sure MyBackup Pro does not require root and will back up nearly everything you would want to. Be sure to move any music/photos/whatever to an external mSD/SD card as well.
@bimbobobo
I wonder where all your problems come from ..
Easy find:
adb.exe backup-all.
That should do.
And you missed the forum as well, I woonder where all your problems come from..
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@bimbobobo
I wonder where all your problems come from ..
Easy find:
adb.exe backup-all.
That should do.
And you missed the forum as well, I woonder where all your problems come from..
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I have no issues in this case, just wanna make a reset and not reinstall my apps, wifi and all the rest
I tried adb.exe and followed the guide in this forum, but I could not find out.
I would like a tool that take a clone of my Prime's stuff and save on an external HDD or directly on the SD Card I have.
Maybe I am not nerd enough to find out
loosing root is not an issue??
To me it would be the first concern ...
the second that I missed the forum...
but try the internal Asus backup as buxtahuda suggested. That's the reason why they put it there, isn't it? Otherwise you know where to complain don't you ?
But than it's always better to reinstall from scratch after a reset, isn't it?
And as buxtahuda stated also: Google is your friend. Just login with your resetted prime into your account. Google has stored almost all your installed applications if you let your device synchronize before you resetted it.
Good luck noob
from another noob
I found out.. thanks guys.
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@bimbobobo
I wonder where all your problems come from ..
Easy find:
adb.exe backup-all.
That should do.
And you missed the forum as well, I woonder where all your problems come from..
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I need to do more adb Lol, I'm going to have to look into this function, I've never paid attention to it.
Would be great to be able to create images like a nandroid without root, but I guess that's kind of an oxymoron statement since you have to be able to get into the system files.
Is there anyone out there who is willing to point me in the right direction for re purposing my retired Eris (RIP 02-12-13)? Hoping it can be a tool for learning (still in A- shape), instead of a paperweight! I have been doing some reading, but downloading is another story, mostly 404s out there now.
P.S. First post in any forum ever, just a humble android noob searching for knowledge and stable Roms from those who offer, sorry if I have posted this in the wrong place, obviously I have posted at the wrong time! A million thanks in advance to anyone with good news or advice!
DB73 said:
Is there anyone out there who is willing to point me in the right direction for re purposing my retired Eris (RIP 02-12-13)? Hoping it can be a tool for learning (still in A- shape), instead of a paperweight! I have been doing some reading, but downloading is another story, mostly 404s out there now.
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What is it you are looking for? I have copies of a lot of ROMs.
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What is it you are looking for? I have copies of a lot of ROMs.
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Hello, and thank you, I am happy to here some good news. I am obviously new to this, but I love to try out different OSs and remaster them the way I see fit. I have just not taken the plunge with android. Since I have never installed any, it's hard to say witch ones I would like best. I would take any ROMs I could get. I figure I can experiment and learn with my Eris, then re purpose it for my son to play games, take pictures etc.
P.S. I downloaded the Jcase / Eclipse3 one click root. Is this the method you would recommend for getting su privileges? I would love to hear your preference on an easy and up to date rooting method. My Eris is currently bone stock with official 2.1, and up to date according to it.
DB73 said:
Hello, and thank you, I am happy to here some good news. I am obviously new to this, but I love to try out different OSs and remaster them the way I see fit. I have just not taken the plunge with android. Since I have never installed any, it's hard to say witch ones I would like best. I would take any ROMs I could get. I figure I can experiment and learn with my Eris, then re purpose it for my son to play games, take pictures etc.
P.S. I downloaded the Jcase / Eclipse3 one click root. Is this the method you would recommend for getting su privileges? I would love to hear your preference on an easy and up to date rooting method. My Eris is currently bone stock with official 2.1, and up to date according to it.
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Yes, if you can find the JCase 1-click root, that will root the phone just fine.
There is another method very well documented here: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/127861-universal-eris-root-dummies.html (which also walks you through installing for your first custom ROM.)
I have some ROMs in my Dropbox if you can't find links.
xtrSENSE (stock 2.1 Eris ROM, rooted): https://dl.dropbox.com/u/220420/Eris/xtrSENSE/xtrSENSE5.0.1.zip
Workshed's GSB: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvpuv4sbwmun43f/GSB.v4.5-final_ODEXED_CM7.2-Eris.zip
CondemnedSoul's CM7.2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1irvshpg7u7trr/CCM7_Eris_V24_RIP.zip
The last two are CyanogenMod Gingerbread ROMs. I think that GSB requires that you also flash Google apps in order to get the market. If so, you can get it from CyanogenMod here: http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
(So, if you need to flash gapps, you go into Recovery. Wipe data/factory reset. Flash the ROM. Flash google apps. THEN restart the phone.)
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Yes, if you can find the JCase 1-click root, that will root the phone just fine.
Just realized why it wouldn't let me post, because of the links in my reply, :silly:
Thank You, I downloaded the ROMs. The link for gapps is dead though. Was that just needed for Workshed's GSB or also for CM7.2?
I have a few questions to throw out there:
1. I was thinking about doing another factory reset, my attempt to have a clean recovery. What will non-activation after boot with no service do?
2. Does vanilla = fast, lightweight, performance, more partition space for user? If so, do you have any recommendation / or a link?
3. Rumored Jellybean for the Eris, love to find the latest build, is it still available? Links point here (XDA) but no download.
4. Is there any way to get google play instead of market working on the Eris?
(((Thanks again for everything)))
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Thank You, I downloaded the ROMs. The link for gapps is dead though. Was that just needed for Workshed's GSB or also for CM7.2?
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Try this one: http://goo-inside.me/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
CondemnedSoul's includes the Google apps already and does not require a separate flash of the gapps zip file.
Ok, I just checked: GSB does NOT require google apps, either; they are already included. You can ignore that step.
I have a few questions to throw out there:
1. I was thinking about doing another factory reset, my attempt to have a clean recovery. What will non-activation after boot with no service do?
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Oh, good question. I would avoid it if you can. The Eris will insist that you activate. However, if you follow the prompt to activate and then press the disconnect button as soon as you hear it ring, it will try activation again two more times. If you disconnect after hearing the ring those two times as well, the phone will give up on activation and allow to continue with setup.
2. Does vanilla = fast, lightweight, performance, more partition space for user? If so, do you have any recommendation / or a link?
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Not necessarily. In my experience, xtrSENSE is fastest, but the GB ROMs are just fine. You may not notice the difference. However, xtrSENSE has a method called cache2cache that frees up more storage space or user applications and data. If you install a lot of apps, xtrSENSE may give you more space.
That said, there are disadvantages, including missing out on apps that do not run on android 2.1.
There is something called xtrcache2cache that you can flash on the GB ROMs to give you the same sort of space. I'll try to find a link.w
3. Rumored Jellybean for the Eris, love to find the latest build, is it still available? Links point here (XDA) but no download.
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I've never tried it, and I can't believe it runs with any sort of decent performance anyway.
4. Is there any way to get google play instead of market working on the Eris?
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Not on android 2.1, but the two gingerbread ROMs will update the market to the play store.
xtrcache2cache is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924562
The download link there seems to work.
Copy that file (xtrCMCache2cache.zip) to your SD card. This is only for the Gingerbread ROMs - it's not necessary for xtrSENSE.
Restart the phone to recovery. If you have already flashed one of those ROMs, simply flash that xtrCMCache2cache.zip file - do not wipe data or Dalvik cache first. Restart the phone, and you'll have probably about 20-30 MB more free storage space for apps and data.
If you have not already flashed GSB or CondemnedSoul's, do this:
- restart in Recovery
- wipe menu
- wipe data/factory reset
- main menu
- flash a zip file, and choose GSB or Condemned
- flash a zip file, and choose xtrCMCache2cache.zip
- restart the phone
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xtrcache2cache is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924562
OK, I will read what I have gathered one or two more times before taking the plunge. I am thinking of using the Jcase method, it seems pretty much idiot proof. I have the file and ROMs stored on my PC, and now on a CD as well, just so I don't loose them. If I have this right, I will:
Pre-Steps:
Copy the Jcase one click root file to an empty SD card, install a file explorer app capable of launching it, take a deep breath, here we go Or maybe I have to copy to android filesystem first?
1. Execute Jcase's one click, and after reboot, I should have the Amon Ra recovery. This is simple, but also the most dangerous part? If this were to fail, it would be similar to a bad BIOS flash. This would brick the phone, if I am understanding this correctly.
2. Then Use the recovery to flash rootme.zip now located on SDCard. Going to use a 2 Gb card from my old LG 8350 (phone before Eris).
3. Do Nand backup of semi clean stock OS. By doing so I will loose the stock recovery for good, meaning no more resets to OG clean?
3.5? On second thought, doing one last reset first would remove all user data with my name and credentials. It may be wise to do this, as it will eventually be in the hands of a 5 year old. This would prevent accidental purchases, I think! On the other hand, if I ever break or loose my new phone and need a temp phone, I could keep this image (as is) to use temporarily with Verison until I get a replacement! I can only choose one of these options. I guess the latter is best, and use only a custom ROM for my son to play with. Hopefully I can temporarily disable or somehow limit su before giving it too him.
4. Do Nand backup of original official image, and put somewhere safe, like 2 places + on CD then remove from SD for more available space.
5. Flash one of the 3 downloaded ROMs and also xtrCMCache2cache if desired to desire-c
6. I assume that appstoSD is something I would need to download now, then add after previous steps, if I feel the need!
7. Then its off to test land! I hope I understand this correctly. The one step I have missed is definitely very important. I did not verify the MD5 on Jcase's one click. In fact I don't even remember where I downloaded it from. Truth being told, I have never manually done a MD5 verification! I guess I have one more step that I absolutely need to learn as it is much more important in Android, especially for recovery!
Edit: I have re downloaded the file from here (XDA), did not see a sum to compare it to? I hope the file still is OK!
Edit # 2 I downloaded a MD5 calculator and this is the output (F34FECFFB985553B68D66F6AC1EF27D3) for the erisone010.apk file
Another big thank you Doogald, If I have something wrong here, please, feel free to beat it into me now, before I do something stupid!
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DB73 said:
Pre-Steps:
Copy the Jcase one click root file to an empty SD card, install a file explorer app capable of launching it, take a deep breath, here we go Or maybe I have to copy to android filesystem first?
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No, Your regular SD card is fine. You do need to enable third-party app installs; you'll find that setting in settings->applications.
1. Execute Jcase's one click, and after reboot, I should have the Amon Ra recovery. This is simple, but also the most dangerous part? If this were to fail, it would be similar to a bad BIOS flash. This would brick the phone, if I am understanding this correctly.
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Yes. You must restart the phone as if you wanted to make a phone call. Many people get too eager and try to get into Recovery before full restarting.
I can't believe that flashing Amon_RA is all terribly dangerous. There are ways to recover. In fact, I have not seen anybody report a brick after running the JCase 1-click. I'm sure that it will be fine.
2. Then Use the recovery to flash rootme.zip now located on SDCard. Going to use a 2 Gb card from my old LG 8350 (phone before Eris).
3. Do Nand backup of semi clean stock OS. By doing so I will loose the stock recovery for good, meaning no more resets to OG clean?
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You *could* do the Nand Backup before running rootme.zip. Actually, you only really need to run rootme.zip if you want to do something with root with the stock Android you have now. Some people may, for example, install the application Titanium Backup Pro (which requires root) and batch backup all user apps (menu->batch and choose to run that option from the list) and then, after installing a new custom ROM, reinstall Titanium from the market/play store and then batch restore all missing apps and data. It's a very powerful way to get the phone running all of your apps and data without reinstalling from scratch.
That brings up one more thing: if you decide to install xtrSENSE, you do not need to do a factory reset if you want to keep all of your apps and data. Of course, if you want a fresh start you may, but xtrSENSE will keep all of your apps and data and give you a faster Eris with more room for apps and data.
Also, it *is* possible to get stock recovery back, though not without losing all of you data. There is a ROM called Flashback_21v2 that will bring back stock recovery and an unrooted Eris if you wish. The phone will act as if it was never rooted. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792026
That would be a good thing to keep on your phone, just in case. (Though I have to say that I am hosting the location of those files on my website and I have no plans to stop doing so, so they should be around for a while...) You'll probably be fine with the "no radio" version, but if you can spare the space on your computer, (that's a bit of a joke; the files are small), I'd download both.
3.5? On second thought, doing one last reset first would remove all user data with my name and credentials. It may be wise to do this, as it will eventually be in the hands of a 5 year old. This would prevent accidental purchases, I think!
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In that case, you DEFINITELY want to wipe data, even with xtrSENSE!
On the other hand, if I ever break or loose my new phone and need a temp phone, I could keep this image (as is) to use temporarily with Verison until I get a replacement! I can only choose one of these options.
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No, you can do both. Do a Nand Backup of the phone after you root it, which will be stored on the SD card. Wipe data/factory reset and you can installa ROM and then always go back into recover and Nand restore what you backed up originally to get your phone back as it was when you ran the backup. Familiar with Norton Ghost for Windows PCs? That's what Nand backup and restore does - it takes a full snapshot of your phone as it is, and when you restore, it's as if you had just turned off your phone for a long time - it's back to the way it was at the time you made the backup. You can have multiple backups stored - as many as will fit on the SD card.
6. I assume that appstoSD is something I would need to download now, then add after previous steps, if I feel the need!
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Well... xtrSENSE support apps2sd as it is, and there are scripts to turn that functionality on. The GB ROMs support using the Android-native moving of apps to sd, so I would avoid apps2sd for them.
7. Then its off to test land! I hope I understand this correctly. The one step I have missed is definitely very important. I did not verify the MD5 on Jcase's one click. In fact I don't even remember where I downloaded it from. Truth being told, I have never manually done a MD5 verification! I guess I have one more step that I absolutely need to learn as it is much more important in Android, especially for recovery!
Edit: I have re downloaded the file from here (XDA), did not see a sum to compare it to? I hope the file still is OK!
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The MD5 I have for 1click is f34fecffb985553b68d66f6ac1ef27d3
HOWEVER, can I suggest instead that you use the 1-click root here, prepared by Scary Alien: http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...2-custom-recovery-trackball-not-required.html
If you look at the bottom of the first post, "Scenario 5", there is another version of 1click with a better version of Amon_RA (that allows you to use the hardware keys to navigate recovery, rather than just the trackball; sometimes the trackball doesn't work in the original Amon_RA). That version I guarantee is safe, and Scary Alien has the MD5 right there.
I am guessing multi-quote is what I should have tried on this instead of deleting?
OK, running 1 click directly from from SD card. Third-party apps ticked on before hand, check.
After running 1 click, do normal restart, then shutdown, then go into recovery via vol / end start up.
No bricks reported, that is very good news. Also good to hear that there may be a procedure for un-bricking in the unlikely event!
My Eris already has already has all apps removed, I tried to make it as clean and small as possible. Just looked at the xtrSENSE page and copied some tips, sounds nice and fast, liking that!
Awesome, I downloaded all 3 including Cupcake, in case I want to remember what that was like.
I did exactly that, downloaded both.
I will give this some extra thought before giving it to my son.
I have never used Norton Ghost, but I have used Macrium Reflect, Seagate Disk Wizard, Acronis etc. I get the image/snapshot thing. I plan to store backups in other locations, then copy back to SD if and when needed.
Just did some reading on the xtrSENSE page about aps2sd, guess I will do some more reading about native moving of apps to sd soon.
The MD5 I have matches yours. I downloaded MD5 Calculator and I guess it works.
After reading the page including "Scenario 5" I absolutely agree. I downloaded it, and will use the "scary alien" modded version with the added functionality. Thank you very much for pointing this out. Looks like no change in the simple execution besides the app/file to run, very nice!
Doogald, I can clearly see that you go out of your way to help others to say the least, I am sure its appreciated by more than just me, Thanks!
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I will give this some extra thought before giving it to my son.
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Hey, one other thing: CondemnedSoul posted a script that you can run that disables the mobile radio, so you can make the device WiFi only. It's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216571
I have to say that I have never tried it, but it seems from the replies in that thread that many have, successfully.
Jelly Bean build anyone?
This may be redundant, but does anyone have a copy of the eris jelly bean rom laying around? Just found my old rooted eris with cyanogenmod and I would like to try jelly bean or ICS.
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This may be redundant, but does anyone have a copy of the eris jelly bean rom laying around? Just found my old rooted eris with cyanogenmod and I would like to try jelly bean or ICS.
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Of course it isn't redundant, in fact this maintains the forum active, well a bit.
Here is the Jellybean Rom you requested, it is from MongooseHelix's build. It has a different Gapps package from what MongooseHelix actually established but I assume no issues may occur. :highfive:
https://copy.com/TgfFHxTqOHPJ