A single member messaged me and made me feel so much better. Still stopping development until next week but, now its just to take time for myself and my family. thanks (you should know who you are.)
Dude don't worry. Take your time off and get everything a-ok.
Everyone already is highly appreciative of all the hard work you have put in and thanks you for your efforts. You are all kinds of awesome for the dev efforts you have put in on this new and tricky device.
So thank you and hope to see you again soon. (And btw, thanks to all the other devs who have put in such awesome effort on the NT )
I love you nick, despite what others say about you I think ur cool
Indirect,
I wish you solace from whatever is hurting you. I'm a noob who has been combing this forum for a solid week in anticipation of getting a nook tablet. I can see that you make great contributions here (and I'm sure elsewhere). Thank you for everything you and the other devs do. Hope things get better soon.
Women always stifling progress. lol.
It’s always a shame when one loses a long-time companion and friend. But in life, one door closes and another one opens.
Here are some unpublished country western songs to amuse you while you both recover.
“I hate every bone in her body but mine.”
“It’s hard to kiss the lips at night that chewed my ass out all day long.”
“If I can’t be #1 in your life, then #2 on you.”
“If the phone don’t ring, you’ll know it’s me.”
“I still miss you baby but my aim is getting better.”
“I’m so miserable without you that it’s like you’re still here.”
“If I’d shot you when I wanted to, I’d be out of prison by now.”
“She got the ring and I got the finger.”
“You’re the reason our kids are so ugly.”
“While I was out getting hammered, she was home getting nailed.”
“She left me and took the dog. Boy I sure do miss him.”
Don't worry about it dude, things'll pass and you'll be OK. Thanks for all your work, it's much appreciated.
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What? On the 23rd? Right before Christmas? That's terribly heartless of the other person. So sorry
Take time off, Indirect! *shakes fist and disconnects Indirect's neural-net interface* And eat lots of pie.
Sorry to hear about your situation! Best wishes, and thanks so much for all you do!
Don't be sorry
Dude, you've done so much for this community. Your real life has to come first. Get your head straight then come on back.
I volunteer for four different groups right now. If I didn't have the option of holding out the yellow flag on the field every now and then when life got tough, I woulda quit them all and moved to Montana a long time ago.
Dude, it's all good. Take time for yourself and know that you are appreciated here for all the work you have done.
Take your time man and heal, thanks for all the hard work you've put into helping us noobs And as someone already said earlier - one door closes and another one opens - completely true!
It may suck but it is very understandable that you need a break.
It's very important to have balance in your life, My real life is in management and all the crap that goes along with it, then toss in a bunch of women bull****. Personally I use XDA as my own personal escape(as a user not a dev that's a whole different ballgame).
To me it's a whole different world devoid of the crap that the real world has, filled with amazing things that are only a flash away.
A single member messaged me and made me feel so much better. Still stopping development until next week but, now its just to take time for myself and my family. thanks (you should know who you are.)
Have a wonderful Christmas
Take the time you need we'll all still be here when ya get back :}
Merry Christmas!
Family is more important than everything else, thats a fact. Take your time, clear your head, we will be here when you come back, thats for sure!
Thank you so much for all you do for the community.
Not sure what happened, but everyone is right. You are well within your rights for a break. Thanks for all your hard work, man.
Its times like these I like to repeat a quote I heard a long time ago:
"Never take life too seriously, nobody ever gets out alive.."
Hope whatever it is that ales you goes away quickly. This time of the year has always been hard on me as I've lost several loved ones. It still hurts but I've had to just learn to deal with it. I also just had my new daughter just arrive on Wednesday so good things come as well.
I hope you get a chance to forget about us, your problems, and just enjoy the spirit of the time of year. Have fun!
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haha made u look
rom is coming when its ready. u guys just keep making me laugh with all this stuff
but i do agree it should stop with all that sh*t
Irus,
Obviously, you have not experienced being a member of another WiMo forum. The impatience and so called stupidity shown here is nothing compared to those experienced by Jiggs in the Atom forum. Hats off to Jiggs for being soooooo patient with noobies, overly arrogant and just plain stupid people.
Look at the bright side, if the AP team is enjoying and finding amusement in the "stupid post" then who are any one of us to complain.
This is a forum. Unless democracy is dead, then everyone has the right to post stupid opinions or to simply act like a kid. There is no rules here citing anything contrary to this.
Of all those posting here, only a handful of you are complaining against stupid posts. Maybe everyone not just you need to stop complaining and try to loosen up. Live life and enjoy. Act like a kid once in a while. It will make you fell young again.
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Irus,
Obviously, you have not experienced being a member of another WiMo forum. The impatience and so called stupidity shown here is nothing compared to those experienced by Jiggs in the Atom forum. Hats off to Jiggs for being soooooo patient with noobies, overly arrogant and just plain stupid people.
Look at the bright side, if the AP team is enjoying and finding amusement in the "stupid post" then who are any one of us to complain.
This is a forum. Unless democracy is dead, then everyone has the right to post stupid opinions or to simply act like a kid. There is no rules here citing anything contrary to this.
Of all those posting here, only a handful of you are complaining against stupid posts. Maybe everyone not just you need to stop complaining and try to loosen up. Live life and enjoy. Act like a kid once in a while. It will make you fell young again.
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High Five
Really crazy, i believe 90% of the users here are kids.
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Really crazy, i believe 90% of the users here are kids.
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I'm a big kid
I have a mental age of about 12 but I'm nearly 4 times that...
im surprised youe on this early confucious... arent you going to work or something? im sitting here outside my school... nice sunny day on my athena. tbh i should be doing some work or something, but reading all the posts since last night is way funnier.
Rory
BAZ LUHRMANN, Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)
Ladies and Gentlemen of the class of ’99…Wear Sunscreen
If I could offer you only one tip for the future, sunscreen would be it. The
long term benefits of sunscreen have been proved by scientists whereas the
rest of my advice has no basis more reliable than my own meandering
experience…I will dispense this advice now.
Enjoy the power and beauty of your youth; oh nevermind; you will not
understand the power and beauty of your youth until they have faded. But trust
me, in 20 years you’ll look back at photos of yourself and recall in a way you
can’t grasp now how much possibility lay before you and how fabulous you
really looked….You’re not as fat as you imagine.
Don’t worry about the future; or worry, but know that worrying is as effective
as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubblegum. The real troubles
in your life are apt to be things that never crossed your worried mind; the
kind that blindside you at 4pm on some idle Tuesday.
Do one thing everyday that scares you
Sing
Don’t be reckless with other people’s hearts, don’t put up with people who are
reckless with yours.
Floss
Don’t waste your time on jealousy; sometimes you’re ahead, sometimes you’re
behind…the race is long, and in the end, it’s only with yourself.
Remember the compliments you receive, forget the insults; if you succeed in
doing this, tell me how.
Keep your old love letters, throw away your old bank statements.
Stretch
Don’t feel guilty if you don’t know what you want to do with your life…the
most interesting people I know didn’t know at 22 what they wanted to do with
their lives, some of the most interesting 40 year olds know still don’t.
Get plenty of calcium.
Be kind to your knees, you’ll miss them when they’re gone.
Maybe you’ll marry, maybe you won’t, maybe you’ll have children, maybe you
won’t, maybe you’ll divorce at 40, maybe you’ll dance the funky chicken on
your 75th wedding anniversary…what ever you do, don’t congratulate yourself
too much or berate yourself either - your choices are half chance, so are
everybody else’s. Enjoy your body, use it every way you can…don’t be afraid of
it, or what other people think of it, it’s the greatest instrument you’ll ever
own..
Dance…even if you have nowhere to do it but in your own living room.
Read the directions, even if you don’t follow them.
Do NOT read beauty magazines, they will only make you feel ugly.
Get to know your parents, you never know when they’ll be gone for good.
Be nice to your siblings; they are the best link to your past and the people
most likely to stick with you in the future.
Understand that friends come and go,but for the precious few you should hold
on. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography in lifestyle because the older
you get, the more you need the people you knew when you were young.
Live in New York City once, but leave before it makes you hard; live in
Northern California once, but leave before it makes you soft.
Travel.
Accept certain inalienable truths, prices will rise, politicians will
philander, you too will get old, and when you do you’ll fantasize that when
you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children
respected their elders.
Respect your elders.
Don’t expect anyone else to support you. Maybe you have a trust fund, maybe
you have a wealthy spouse; but you never know when either one might run out.
Don’t mess too much with your hair, or by the time it’s 40, it will look 85.
Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it.
Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from
the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and it for more than
it’s worth.
But trust me on the sunscreen…
i love that song
I love that song too. And I hope the forum will come alive again tonight. But posting a complete song lyrics on a forum?
yeah, i fancy another night of talking ranodmly about nothing to do with ap4, just because were all united in one thing, waiting for ap4
Rory
It's indeed utterly useless but hey we need something to pass the time...
Still waiting... (grumble)
(grumbles louder)
mabury10 said:
I love that song too. And I hope the forum will come alive again tonight. But posting a complete song lyrics on a forum?
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Do you believe this topic is a SERIOUS topic? Stop the stupid ap 4.0 posts? Semi official 4.0..?, Non official 4.0?
This isn't a SONG, is a LESSON I am not SINGING, no MUSIC, no *.mp3 attachments. Someone could learn, others just listen, but I believe that there is more to learn in those worlds about what's going on here, than in the 80% of the messages posted in the Athena mobile 6 3d in the last week
And IMHO it answers to many questions too!
yerp... i absolutely love that song... think of it this way, in the last week, us lot in the athena forum who are normally quiet people have all posted loads... but its still probably a tenth of the number of posts per day in the kaiser forum, and their phone is crippled.
but in all seriousness, does it matter if we are having a bit of a joke while were all pressing refresh every 5 minutes waiting for pawel to post some more info about the rom. Its better than sitting pressing f5, and not doing anything else lol
Rory
hehe nice to see a great mood here. im actually side testing 19202 to see if theres less problems with it then with 19181. so far the answer seems yes. i dont think u would mind me spending a extra day to get u all the absolute latest build right?
is that an extra day, so it would be released tonight, and the alternative tomorrow..... or is it an extra day over the already unknown release date?
either way, i dont mind
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hehe nice to see a great mood here. im actually side testing 19202 to see if theres less problems with it then with 19181. so far the answer seems yes. i dont think u would mind me spending a extra day to get u all the absolute latest build right?
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One problem with wanting us to have the latest build (and sure we want it though). There's allways tomorrow that brings an even newer build. Please don't keep us waiting on that...
well i have no new test roms so that means theres no new build yet. i think i can say with confidence this time that the rom will be out within the next week. we just need to properly test the new 19202 build for 48 hrs and fix any bugs.
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well i have no new test roms so that means theres no new build yet. i think i can say with confidence this time that the rom will be out within the next week. we just need to properly test the new 19202 build for 48 hrs and fix any bugs.
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That's very hopeful!
We go to it! What're you hanging around here on this forum...?
First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use it each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
My $.02 with $.05 extra.
No disrespect, but why did you just spend so much time nay saying something that others clearly enjoy doing (developers) and using (users, obviously). You might look back at this tomorrow and wonder...
Part of the fun is getting a dead technology to work better than others think it possibly can (HTC, Verizon, you)
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Because these developers have been able to take "dead technology" and get it running faster than the newest phone out there. My Eris currently out runs my wifes TB and also runs the newest software that currently isn't available to her phone without root, so I give much respect to the devs for what they can do.
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NPH- said:
First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use itu each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
My $.02 with $.05 extra.
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Because its fun proving big red and HTC wrong and people still have this phone..y should they be left behind ...just like the hero ,g1 , also are still chugging along ..
And also...I have nothing else to do.. I'm disabled
No disrespect, Btw, you wont beleive, This phone is just launched in india,
http://www.mtsindia.in/smartphone/products.htm
There are lots of people still using G1, hero, droid eris technology.
now, for doing into deep in any technology, we need to learn some dead technology, we need to learn basics for being high.
We still learn C language, do you thing people use software developed in turbo 'C'.
Second thing is FUN, You might waste time in playing golf, watching porn playing PSP games etc etc.
Developer here like there time to be wasted in porting rom. sorry no disrespect.
If someone donate developers a high End phone then they might waste their time in alive technology.
Even though they have highend phone they still love to port for droid eris. Its all fun, way of thinking.
please dont take me wrong in any way, please.
You are right in some point, I agree with you. But unless and untill i didnt get any highend phone, I have to stick with it. I am a learner, before jumping to sensation. let me wash my hands to droid eris
Thanks to developer like, erasmux, tazz, macrodroid, workshed and manymore, bcoz of them we really get some good rom here. Its there work only for fun. (no $$$$)
Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest phone out there.
Why is anyone dedicated to anything? In the end the solar system will be swallowed up by the sun.
Because They Can
Im one of those that cant afford one of the newer phones and was just given this phone a couple months ago. If it wasnt for these great developers my experience with this phone would be much less enjoyable.
So to all the Devs in this forum I thank you for all your hard work and please keep up the good work.
Why do people enjoy solving puzzles? It is fun and rewarding. There is always room to make these devices better than they were when we bought them.
The Eris is still my only phone and some people are in the same situation. I am extremely grateful for the devs' work. There was a time when people said that the Eris would NEVER be able to handle Gingerbread. On the contrary, it runs gingerbread better than any other version of Android. It is amazing that this phone keeps becoming more and more powerful. These devs make our phones feel future proof.
NPH- said:
First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use it each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
My $.02 with $.05 extra.
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My guess would be... the same reason you wasted your time starting this thread.... they enjoy it.
My next thought would be this... If you don't get/can't comprehend why the devs are still making roms for the Eris... unroot your Eris, use it stock and don't use any of the ROMs and you won't have to worry about it
grimjeeper said:
Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest phone out there.
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^THIS^ is why I am thankful for all the Devs that work on this "old obsolete" Eris!
Or maybe not even that. I'm still under contract until April with my Eris. I'm not the primary on this account, so I have to wait my 2 years in order to get a discount.
Plus many enjoy the challenge of porting the OS to older hardware.
The CM team still maintains support for the original production Android phone, the G1.
Since the G1 and Eris are still very similar in performance and specs having them tweak CM to run decently on the G1 helps the Eris.
I think other than the Nexus 1, all the phones with the trackball are pretty much the same performance-wise. All have a ~500 Mhz Arm V6 CPU.
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My guess would be... the same reason you wasted your time starting this thread.... they enjoy it.
My next thought would be this... If you don't get/can't comprehend why the devs are still making roms for the Eris... unroot your Eris, use it stock and don't use any of the ROMs and you won't have to worry about it
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Well said...
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I can honestly say the eris is the phone I have the longest in all my years owning a cell phone. Yeah there are new and flashy phones that always come out but since rooting and loading zach's pure vanilla rom on it i haven't looked back. My contract is up in october and I have no plans on upgrading before then and maybe even after that. The eris dev's are excellent and they have really extended the life of the eris well past its scheduled funeral.
old is gold.
Funny...I do actually get this same question from some of the folks I know who have jumped and continue to jump on the latest and greatest that comes out. I used to be that way too. Then I explain to them the way they do in those Visa commercials....
Cost of donating to the developers for their hard work $ a few bucks here and there...(this is the most important one! )
Cost of upgrading to the latest and greatest phone $0 dollars
Cost of watching the phone guy at Best Buy mobile look at my phone and say "wow...your running that? ....on that phone????"........ $$$ PRICELESS
It's really very simple. People who stay with the Eris stay because either they like it just fine or can't afford to switch. Therefore, the efforts of devs which improve their experience are valiant and well worth. If you're unhappy with the Eris and can afford to switch go ahead and do so....and enjoy.
That being said, I see no useful or valid point in keeping this thread alive and personally wouldn't mind seeing it locked/deleted.
why they do it
NPH- said:
First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use it each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
My $.02 with $.05 extra.
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Firstly,
I'd suggest the Eris doesn't have a "dead technology" just that there have been dramatic improvements in the hardware and hardware costs that are available to cellphone manufacturers of today compared to 2 years ago.
secondly,
for a cellphone manufacturer you get the most bang for your buck putting your software and hardware design engineers on the next best thing, rather than keeping an older model competitive... where would you put your money? continuing to optimize software for an old model (that you already got paid for) for better performance,or make the next phone really appealing to the consumer. It's the world of "planned obsolescence", and it keeps us buying newer phones from the manufacturers. The market's so huge, with so much competition that the development pace is very high.
on the Developers,
I'd suggest most of these guys seem have a passion for coding, so I'd guess making cleaner, more fully optimized code is the driver for them, the challenge of making a bit of old hardware competitive with the newer stuff seems like a complex puzzle, that they like solving... we just so happen to benefit from their passion.
You'll notice most of them don't ask for any type of payment, for what could be weeks and months of effort (in their free time), that's why it's nice to support a dev that's made something that saves you time or get a lot of use out of...
Keep up the good work everyone, I sincerely appreciate all the hard work!!!
First and foremost, and I post this reply to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
1) people still under contract
2) people unwilling/unable to purchase a newer phone
3) the phone is still very powerful.
4) most aren't yuppies that feel the need to upgrade everytime a company releases their sandbagged technology.
5) the foundation for learning how to develop rom's is here. learn here while the learning is good
truth be told, your post and this thread didn't need to be created at all. why do some people drive honda's and not just throw them away for a lexus? must be nice to have grown up with a silver spoon in ones mouth and have a view of the world that is disposable.
NPH- said:
First and foremost, and I post this topic to mean no disrespect what-so-ever
I say again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Now to my topic. Why does everyone on this board dedicate so much time and effort to a phone that is completely obsolete? Don't get me wrong, I still have my Droid Eris and I use it each and every day, but when my contract is up I am going to be getting a/the newer/newest phone out there. I just can't come to grips with why so many people dedicate so much time to putting together these roms and updates for a phone that is in several respects dead technology.
I mean no disrespect, and perhaps there is an explanation out there that I can't comprehend at the moment, but as I see it there are bigger and better things out there to spend time and work on.
I appreciate all the hard work that has been put into this phone by all the developers associated with these works... but a certain point a white flag must be raised. These 3.0 Sense roms that are popping up left and right... they are not intended for the Droid Eris, so why waste your time trying to make these work in perfect working condition, because let's face it, they won't. You're fighting a battle that cannot and will not be one. There will come a day that you may look back and wonder why time was wasted on this phone.
My $.02 with $.05 extra.
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Because it's fun to see how far we can push these phones beyond their stated limits
Also for some devs i would gather it's experience too. Experience that could get them jobs, maybe even with the company that builds the phones you're deving on. Best way to learn something is to jump in and do it.
These phones are fairly cheap now and it seems it's one that had a lot of potential. I think we can all agree that HTC really didn't optimize it to it's fullest.
I want to publicly thank all of you here on XDA (and some I know are on sdx as well) for your contribution to the rest of us users who lack the talent and downright genius to do what you do. Although some of us are sharp, and know a little bit, you are the 1% of us who have the ability take that idea and design and morph it into a theme or self operating system.
Thank you again. And thank you for being teachers as well! I have learned more in the past 6 months about computers and electronics and Linux than I have in my life being around them.
sent from 3VO
+one million. the people here are so helpful. i try to be as helpful as i can, but nobody can compare to the people who spend hours on end on roms and mods.
Yes thanks to all the devs and themers!
Cant belive how much dev support we have.
I knew I picked the right phone.
EVO 3D!!
It's good to see threads like this in the morning instead of *****ing, complaining, or topics not related to the Evo 3D.
Thanks man. I take that to the heart...
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That, sir, is a great post, and duly needed around here.... What hit home for me as well, was this..
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I have learned more in the past 6 months about computers and electronics and Linux than I have in my life being around them.
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Agreed×10.
I'm pretty much in awe over how much you can learn here in such a short period of time. The raw knowledge that is available here collectively is absolutely amazing.
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Thanks cobra. I do it for the love of the game!(that's why I got rid of my donate button) When toast was a little whipper snapper and I was teaching him about thingamabobs, I remember him saying "Chef, thanks! I'm going to make a dope ass build of cm7 for the evo 3d". Off to the dev section toast! And ignore the ahole trolls!
I also want to thank the devs (whether or not most of them were under my wing at one point or another). You ALL make my phone a ton of fun. I've learned a ton of cool stuff from the devs and users here at xda.
Back to helping toast get the 3d wiring in the thingamagig.
Sent from my unrooted Galaxy Tab.
I rarely post but I just wanted to agree with the subject of this thread and the posts in it so far. I've learned so much about Android, adb, etc. since I got my first Evo a little over a year ago. Being able to mod and flash our phones is something I'm sure a lot of us, I know I do, take for granted at times, but is something that wouldn't be available to most without the great Devs here. So I just wanted to say Thanks for making my phones better each and every day.
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I rarely post but I just wanted to agree with the subject of this thread and the posts in it so far. I've learned so much about Android, adb, etc. since I got my first Evo a little over a year ago. Being able to mod and flash our phones is something I'm sure a lot of us, I know I do, take for granted at times, but is something that wouldn't be available to most without the great Devs here. So I just wanted to say Thanks for making my phones better each and every day.
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Well said. And ditto with learning so much since my og Evo. The nook color taught me a few tricks also.
Rootyourdroid.net. My nephews blog.
Your post is excellent. Behind the scenes of any mod, rom and theme is began with a idea to make it different and or better. And the developers are volunteers that help all of us out. They contribute knowledge that when applied let's us get s-off, root, better roms, better performing devices. Countless of hours go to any one single item they put out..and in some instances...many man years, all mostly for free. Time spent away from friends, family job, and other obligation in lives. Some are good, some are bad but all deserve a big THANK YOU.
Good post. It brightens up the forums a little bit.
good post man.. it is important that we continue to show love to the community, this place has turned into such crapfest recently.. and its good to see people posting positive material; devs, chefs and themers need to know that we appreciate their work so that they will continue to press on.. its hard to find the passion to make something when everywhere you turn is some douchebag talking crap about what he doesnt even know..
and many thanks to all of the people who have helped me in my time here, to help me accomplish the things that i can do today.. i wouldnt have thought i would be able to do half of the things that i can do now.. back in my heroC days learning about kernels from decad3nce and s0be, rom building from aosp, and themeing from thoughtlesskyle.. and many many others.. thanks a ton, and heres to a better community.. *cheers*
I know its not a question, but would like to just say thanks to everyone in this misfit forum for making our phone a better device. Just shows what can happen when people work together. I know I've learned alot about android in the last 10 months & thank you guys for all your help along the way. Let's hope the New Year brings us new possibilities for this misfit of a phone....THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE..MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!
This happens to be my very first post on XDA. I'm one of those silent followers, reading, re-reading, scratching my head, pulling my hair, but smiling in the end bc of you Devs. I went back to stock last night to flash 2.3.5 and it kept saying error "build.prop & verification blah blah". I'm freaking out. Since I'm on vacation, I tether my phone for internet (throttled, of course, bc I've been downloading as much as a middle school boy with the parents out). I spend forever loading pages, too stubborn to ask a question and too afraid of the "dude, have you ever heard of the search feature?" Yes, mister, I have read about that feature. But I deleted it and need you to send me a link So, it's Christmas Eve and I'm sitting in a Chinese restaurant enveloped in a sea of S. Florida Jews that my sister loves to talk with every year. We're the only Catholics in the room, but she feels right at home. Idk. It may have been Moses working, but I realized I was on 2.3.3. Huzzah! As soon as we got back I immediately satiated my flash fix. Thanks Ace for the nandroid. X-mas came early. Thanks everyone for your help. I've learned so much for my first smart phone bc of XDA and y'all. I really fear ppl are going to be moving on soon. I fear that a lot. I don't know how ppl can go through phones like it's an accessory. I got my phone on August 6th and am sticking with this to at least my 2 year update. Don't worry. I foresee our unlock is near.
Sorry for the long post, if you made it this far. My next ones won't be this bad.
Big thanks to DEVS and...Ashlepedia. I categorize you, Ash, with the Devs bc of the amount of work you put in to this forum. I rooted around the same time you did and it's been great watching how much you've learned. I'll get whatever phone you get next.
Happy holidays, everyone from Old Testament to New to none.
Gtg to run to bed so Nicolas doesn't get mad. I heard he's brining me an Otterbox this year.
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I was off to a great start on XDA, helped a lot of people, made a mod or two and gathered a decent number of thanks.
Lately though, I've been frustrated and it's showing in my posts.
I'm frustrated because after probably more than 150$ in donations to different people, it seems that developers left one right after the other and that money I gave to encourage development is now used to develop for another phone.
I understand there's no obligation for developers to stick to a phone for ever, everyone wants to play with the new hardware and being a hardware junkie myself, I really can't blame anyone for that.
I gave to Scott because I ran his ROM for quite awhile and it was really stable. Probably because it is stock with the fat trimmed but that met my needs. Later on I hear about all this talk going on about how he's not a real developer and he left.
Then I gave money to bored at least twice, once for his S4 Rom, and once again to help him get a new laptop. Shortly after he vanished for personal reasons. It's probably something big, probably not his fault, bad things happen and sometimes our priorities changes but it seemed that once again I encouraged someone who had to go away.
Lastly, I donated twice to Joel for his S4 ROM and to encourage him to continue developing and we now know what is happening. He doesn't seem to have the time and with the Roms coming out for the GNex and the One X, if I was a developer, I would be all over the new hardware as well.
So those events made me frustrated and I think I managed to p!ss off quite a few people so I'm sorry for that. I tarnished my own reputation because instead of accepting all that, I wanted something for my donations and I got nothing.
I decided to change the way I see things and consider my donations as a contribution to work that was done in the past. I used CleanRom so I donated for that, I used S4 a lot and Bored helped me port his blue theme so that it works with 3.6 Roms, and I donated for that. I didn't really run Joel's ROM a lot because the lack of bluetooth and screen rotation lag was too much for me but still, he put some good stuff together and it was good while it lasted.
So once again, I apologize for anyone I offended or rubbed the wrong way. Donating only to see people vanish got the best of me and I'm paying for it now because of my latest posts.
Nic2112 said:
I was off to a great start on XDA, helped a lot of people, made a mod or two and gathered a decent number of thanks.
Lately though, I've been frustrated and it's showing in my posts.
I'm frustrated because after probably more than 150$ in donations to different people, it seems that developers left one right after the other and that money I gave to encourage development is now used to develop for another phone.
I understand there's no obligation for developers to stick to a phone for ever, everyone wants to play with the new hardware and being a hardware junkie myself, I really can't blame anyone for that.
I gave to Scott because I ran his ROM for quite awhile and it was really stable. Probably because it is stock with the fat trimmed but that met my needs. Later on I hear about all this talk going on about how he's not a real developer and he left.
Then I gave money to bored at least twice, once for his S4 Rom, and once again to help him get a new laptop. Shortly after he vanished for personal reasons. It's probably something big, probably not his fault, bad things happen and sometimes our priorities changes but it seemed that once again I encouraged someone who had to go away.
Lastly, I donated twice to Joel for his S4 ROM and to encourage him to continue developing and we now know what is happening. He doesn't seem to have the time and with the Roms coming out for the GNex and the One X, if I was a developer, I would be all over the new hardware as well.
So those events made me frustrated and I think I managed to p!ss off quite a few people so I'm sorry for that. I tarnished my own reputation because instead of accepting all that, I wanted something for my donations and I got nothing.
I decided to change the way I see things and consider my donations as a contribution to work that was done in the past. I used CleanRom so I donated for that, I used S4 a lot and Bored helped me port his blue theme so that it works with 3.6 Roms, and I donated for that. I didn't really run Joel's ROM a lot because the lack of bluetooth and screen rotation lag was too much for me but still, he put some good stuff together and it was good while it lasted.
So once again, I apologize for anyone I offended or rubbed the wrong way. Donating only to see people vanish got the best of me and I'm paying for it now because of my latest posts.
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no hard feelings bro. id feel pretty pissed too if i donated money and it didnt lead to anything. this community, is broken right now. we have about three devs for cdma and 1 gsm left. i want to stay but it seems i cant! im pretty sure im leaving to get a GSM gnex and go to tmobile. its just better for me right now. believe me, THIS IS THE INTERNET!!!! if anyone gets offended, they are p*ssies
I started to think of the fact that the money I donated would have bought me almost a third of a One X at full retail price but developers do release ROMs before getting donations so I'm trying to see it as contribution done in the past, not in the future.
hey man, i'm just as upset as you with the developers leaving. our community really has been shot to hell, and i don't really see it recovering very well, and that sucks. we started off as a small, close, tight-knit community from like weeks before launch date. many of us were familiar faces from the Inc forum, so we were enjoying ourselves. once we got bigger, i guess everything began to get on peoples' nerves: lack of AOSP, RIL, kernel source, ICS not being released, etc etc.
now, we have less than a handful of developers left, as they've all left for the nexus.
hang in there, the source/ update drought cant last forever. If you can make it through the wait, it's inevitable that the combination of the hardware + the price of this phone will bring talent. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of those folks you mention above make their way back here again. Being stuck on 2 year old software isn't really exciting for many devs, but it's where we're at for the time being.
Nice to see that you have a new outlook dude
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I like where this thread is going and I agree with the sentiments behind it, hopefully no one will come in here and turn this into a troll-fest.
Personally, I think this is a natural (though unpleasant) thing that's going on. In the forums for my last device, this exact same thing happened - as frustration grew over manufacturer/carrier delays for the next big/promised release and source code, things got bad in the community. It got ugly. Then the release finally came and source finally came and some really good things happened, including CM9. I haven't been back there in a long time so I have no idea what it's like now, but that's the way I left it. I'm hoping once we have source that good things will happen. I believe we'll see some new faces and maybe some old ones.
The one thing that complicates matters in the Rezound forums is the issue of donations (in my opinion). In my old device's forums, a lot of the devs (maybe most) refused to take donations, or at least discouraged donations, and actually it seemed the most talented devs were the ones most likely to discourage/least likely to accept donations. Here, a lot of the devs (most? all?) accept and even encourage donations, in some cases outright asking for them. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, I've donated to at least 3 Rezound devs myself, but there are risks that come along with accepting/encouraging donations. The people who donate then expect certain things, expectations are higher, and if you don't deliver or if you leave before delivering, you have to expect some people are going to take it hard. I'm not saying I agree with that, it's just human nature. There is a fine line between donating to encourage someone and outright paying them for an expected outcome.
I don't think I ever posted anything negative towards any dev, and I've never taken sides in the current "war" that's going on. I must admit there is one thing I really don't get in all this, one thing I really would like to post and ask about because I'm honestly confused by it, but I know 100% it would turn into a troll feeding frenzy, so I'm just going to keep it to myself and hope for better days ahead.
Personally I love this phone (aside from battery life) and think it's still better than a lot of devices coming out now. I'd love to get more into the dev game myself if I could just. find. the. frickin. time...
That was long-winded, I apologize...
I thank you all make good points and I feel the same way also and I'm so tired of all the childish stuff that just keeps going on iv been with most these dev's sense(pun intened) the inc and they all are very talented but really don't blame them for leaving whether it be personal or not.on that note thank you to all the modders themers and devs and anyone that's a helper and not a troll
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I don't blame people for wanting to go develop for a newer hardware platform, I would do the same and if I could afford it right now, I would buy a GNEX and let Google feed be with updates.
We still love you.
The development section hasn't had anything good in at least a month.
I don't see the rage about the new S3, or Nexus (plus thought nexus was blocked for US sales??). I'm really enjoying the Resound and am having Zero issues at the moment with it. It would be nice to get some of the new updates rolling quicker with the phone, but the amount of work developers have put into the current roms is amazing. They are all very talented people, and there's no possible way to thank them enough for all they've done. I just do really hope some end up trailing back in our direction and bring/breathe more life into this phone..... Particularly Jellybean.
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hey man, i'm just as upset as you with the developers leaving. our community really has been shot to hell, and i don't really see it recovering very well, and that sucks. we started off as a small, close, tight-knit community from like weeks before launch date. many of us were familiar faces from the Inc forum, so we were enjoying ourselves. once we got bigger, i guess everything began to get on peoples' nerves: lack of AOSP, RIL, kernel source, ICS not being released, etc etc.
now, we have less than a handful of developers left, as they've all left for the nexus.
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.....but this is exactly what I'm saying, its all marketing. By people playing ball and RUNNING to the newest phone that has better software when we dont get source fast enough all were doing is saying "hey, you can manipulate the market easily, just take too long to update software and we'll just buy the next phone you tell us to buy". We just need to be patient and wait for source, this is a GREAT phone! Just. Be. Patient.
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.....but this is exactly what I'm saying, its all marketing. By people playing ball and RUNNING to the newest phone that has better software when we dont get source fast enough all were doing is saying "hey, you can manipulate the market easily, just take too long to update software and we'll just buy the next phone you tell us to buy". We just need to be patient and wait for source, this is a GREAT phone! Just. Be. Patient.
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Let's see VZW/HTC stated this phone officially would have ICS Q1, it is now Q3 and they have yet to deliver. This phone has already passed it's shelf life so I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't see the official ICS/source for another month, or two, or three. It sucks but you just gotta face it, this phone is dead. Great phone with a lot of potential, troll community destroys any hope of AOSP or the improvement of current roms.
The thing is, manufacturers have zero motivation to update the software on their phones because they make no money off of that and have to spend money on development.
If not coming up for an update for the Rezound and putting the latest on the One X, they ensure that anyone who wants the latest android will spend money on a new phone.
Yeah we're rooted and we do have the latest, but despite that, I think we all share that itch to get the newer phone with the slightly better CPU and a little bit more RAM.
It's a fact that faster hardware doesn't always make for a faster phone, the quality of the software running on it makes a huge difference as well. I see the same thing on my rezound, sense launcher has never been smoother while 3rd party launchers like Nova, Apex, Go, have never been slower. Open the app drawer, everything is smooth but flip through screens on the desktop and you get that low framerate feel.
I wouldn't consider the GNEX too old to buy but I'll be enjoying my Rezound until the next phone from Google.
Nic2112 said:
The thing is, manufacturers have zero motivation to update the software on their phones because they make no money off of that and have to spend money on development.
If not coming up for an update for the Rezound and putting the latest on the One X, they ensure that anyone who wants the latest android will spend money on a new phone.
Yeah we're rooted and we do have the latest, but despite that, I think we all share that itch to get the newer phone with the slightly better CPU and a little bit more RAM.
It's a fact that faster hardware doesn't always make for a faster phone, the quality of the software running on it makes a huge difference as well. I see the same thing on my rezound, sense launcher has never been smoother while 3rd party launchers like Nova, Apex, Go, have never been slower. Open the app drawer, everything is smooth but flip through screens on the desktop and you get that low framerate feel.
I wouldn't consider the GNEX too old to buy but I'll be enjoying my Rezound until the next phone from Google.
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This.
Completely.
rsage said:
I like where this thread is going and I agree with the sentiments behind it, hopefully no one will come in here and turn this into a troll-fest.
Personally, I think this is a natural (though unpleasant) thing that's going on. In the forums for my last device, this exact same thing happened - as frustration grew over manufacturer/carrier delays for the next big/promised release and source code, things got bad in the community. It got ugly. Then the release finally came and source finally came and some really good things happened, including CM9. I haven't been back there in a long time so I have no idea what it's like now, but that's the way I left it. I'm hoping once we have source that good things will happen. I believe we'll see some new faces and maybe some old ones.
The one thing that complicates matters in the Rezound forums is the issue of donations (in my opinion). In my old device's forums, a lot of the devs (maybe most) refused to take donations, or at least discouraged donations, and actually it seemed the most talented devs were the ones most likely to discourage/least likely to accept donations. Here, a lot of the devs (most? all?) accept and even encourage donations, in some cases outright asking for them. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, I've donated to at least 3 Rezound devs myself, but there are risks that come along with accepting/encouraging donations. The people who donate then expect certain things, expectations are higher, and if you don't deliver or if you leave before delivering, you have to expect some people are going to take it hard. I'm not saying I agree with that, it's just human nature. There is a fine line between donating to encourage someone and outright paying them for an expected outcome.
I don't think I ever posted anything negative towards any dev, and I've never taken sides in the current "war" that's going on. I must admit there is one thing I really don't get in all this, one thing I really would like to post and ask about because I'm honestly confused by it, but I know 100% it would turn into a troll feeding frenzy, so I'm just going to keep it to myself and hope for better days ahead.
Personally I love this phone (aside from battery life) and think it's still better than a lot of devices coming out now. I'd love to get more into the dev game myself if I could just. find. the. frickin. time...
That was long-winded, I apologize...
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Maybe some people need to change their expectations.
I don't donate for future work. Since it's entirely possible that the dev has run into a creative or technical wall, I think it's an unrealistic expectation. But that's just me.
I donate because I appreciate the work the dev has already done. If he takes the donation as an "attaboy" as inspiration for bigger and better things, I consider that a bonus.
Nilsp's ROMs are just about the only ones I've used since I got my Rezound. I appreciate the consistent quality, that he'll answer a question almost anytime of the day or night without snark, and that his ROMs are in a constant state of improvement. I've bought him at least one beer if not two, and if he can get Sense 4 to run properly, I'll buy him a case.
BTW...Nilsp had to be coaxed into accepting donations. Like many of the devs, his satisfaction seems to come in beating the challenges and the simple thanks the users of his product give him. The rest...beer money.
I think another problem with this community is the sense that Verizon has practically orphaned this phone right out of the gate. It was supposed to be a top of the line phone...by technical standards, it's still one of their best phones eight months out of the gate, which is saying something...but they never promoted it, and the dragging of their feet with the ICS update is simply maddening, given that they implied it would be one of the first to get it.
I like this phone. I'm pretty much stuck with it for another year anyway, but I can't see the advantage to jumping at quad cores, especially since few apps can truly take advantage of the extra cores anyhow.
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I don't donate for future work. Since it's entirely possible that the dev has run into a creative or technical wall, I think it's an unrealistic expectation. But that's just me.
I donate because I appreciate the work the dev has already done. If he takes the donation as an "attaboy" as inspiration for bigger and better things, I consider that a bonus.
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I agree with you, but not completely. You see, I've noticed two ways of inviting for donations.
1. "If you like my work, please consider donating". That I agree with you, a donation is for past work and no expectations should be assumed on either side. You like the current rom and you want to donate, send a few bucks and enjoy the phone. No one ever said there would be a next version.
2. "Let's get 'x' a phone so that he can develop for the Rezound". This is far different than the first one. This, in simple terms, means "If you buy me a phone, I will release something". Maybe just one Rom supported for a little bit, maybe more, but this DOES imply that if the developer gets his/her new phone, that this person will develop something. This is money for future development.
Going with the second method is risky because it does set an expectation to get something back for getting that person a phone. Those expectations are likely to be different between the developer and people who donated. I am convinced that this is why there is so much friction and frustrated people in the Rezound forums. Different people have different expectations and some people are bound to feel like they deserve more.
I learned my lesson though. Next time someone needs the community to help them get a device, I'll politely pass because this concept of donating for future work is at high risk to cause frustrations.
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I agree with you, but not completely. You see, I've noticed two ways of inviting for donations.
1. "If you like my work, please consider donating". That I agree with you, a donation is for past work and no expectations should be assumed on either side. You like the current rom and you want to donate, send a few bucks and enjoy the phone. No one ever said there would be a next version.
2. "Let's get 'x' a phone so that he can develop for the Rezound". This is far different than the first one. This, in simple terms, means "If you buy me a phone, I will release something". Maybe just one Rom supported for a little bit, maybe more, but this DOES imply that if the developer gets his/her new phone, that this person will develop something. This is money for future development.
Going with the second method is risky because it does set an expectation to get something back for getting that person a phone. Those expectations are likely to be different between the developer and people who donated. I am convinced that this is why there is so much friction and frustrated people in the Rezound forums. Different people have different expectations and some people are bound to feel like they deserve more.
I learned my lesson though. Next time someone needs the community to help them get a device, I'll politely pass because this concept of donating for future work is at high risk to cause frustrations.
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Nobody bought me a phone. I'm not buying someone else one.
I prefer developers who plan to use their phone and their ROMs as daily drivers...because that's how I use my phone. If I'm helping a dev buy a phone, he's only in it for the challenge. Once he thinks he's met that challenge, he's off looking for a new one...while I've still got a year or more to go on my contract. And all of that presumes we're talking about an ethical developer...one that's not using his buddy's phone to do the work and pocketing the donations. ---NOTE---that is not an accusation pointed at anyone, just a hypothetical.
I'm not the government. I don't pay for future development....because more times than not, it doesn't work out to be much of a bargain for the taxpayer.
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We still love you.
The development section hasn't had anything good in at least a month.
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Huh?
Nils has been releasing GREAT stuff. Why do folks ignore this super-talented dev?
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Huh?
Nils has been releasing GREAT stuff. Why do folks ignore this super-talented dev?
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yeah, nils is the man. made some badass roms on the Inc, and continues to do so on the rezound.