MHL adapter not working (MTP Device Connected) - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Every time i try to connect my MHL adapter recently it will not output to the TV. TV is fine, HDMI cables are fine, adapter works with other devices.
ONCE i did get the MHL adapter to work properly however the rom was very buggy and i had to switch. Even on stock i can not seem to get my phone to output to the TV. It always says MTP Device Detected and never displays out to the TV. I tried USB Debugging but that didnt seem to change things. Im confused, what can be causing this? All my hardware seems fine, i have tried too many roms to count, what can be making me have this problem?
Any help / suggestions will be helpful

Have you got power connected to the MHL adapter?
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Fizzerr said:
Have you got power connected to the MHL adapter?
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Sure do, even found a power adapter that puts out more power because i thought the one i was using wasnt working properly (1000ma instead of 200ma)
Phone shows its charging, but also comes up with that MTP Initilization message.... put it into USB mode and i dont get that message, but no MHL either.

Ok, a bit more testing, using a HDMI to DVI cable i can connect my phone into my computer screen and it works fine! Using the exact same setup on my TV, nothing. Use the same HDMI port on my TV that my other cables were using, nothing. Use different cables (That work on other devices), nothing. Aparently my TV is not accepting the signal from my MHL adapter.
My TV is a Sony KDL 46E400.
Ideas why i can connect to the monitor just fine but the TV doesnt work?

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[Q] How do i use MHL?

Hi guys, i bought the MHL adapter from T-Mobile's website for the Sensation 4G (i have an Evo 3D). I set everything up, plugging the MHL adapter into my phone, standard HDMI into the adapter and TV, and the usb cable into the adapter...
After plugging everything in nothing happens. I even tried playing a video and nothing occurred. How do i activate the video out? Do i just have a bad MHL adapter?
A few questions. Does the battery icon on the phone show it is charging? This means that power is going to the adapter and to the phone. If not, try changing power adapters. If the charging icon is there, then try changing HDMI cables. If this doesn't work, you might have a bad MHL to HDMI adapter.
with your tv off, plug your mhl adapter into your phone, plug your power cable into the adapter, turn your tv on and bam! (note that the hdmi doesnt display the lockscreen)
Rydah805 said:
with your tv off, plug your mhl adapter into your phone, plug your power cable into the adapter, turn your tv on and bam! (note that the hdmi doesnt display the lockscreen)
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My lockscreen shows and boot animation , Also to OP ...the hdmi mirroring is not as stable as HDMWIN is for the OG Evo imo, i had to play with it a bit to first get a picture on my Sammy (unplug/replug/reboot etc.)...then i got pic without sound (OG worked w/audio), ended up running hdmi through my Yamaha amp and that worked. Still not as stable as my 4g evo....LAME
btw I've read usb can't be plugged into pc for powering, must be plugged into wall adapter
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btw I've read usb can't be plugged into pc for powering, must be plugged into wall adapter
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my macbook pro powers it fine. weird.
I was using it with my stand that had a video on/off button to turn the display on an off. Everything was mirrored fine but I had no audio and hulu was intentionally shutting off the hdmi before any video played. Are they blocking media streaming apps from displaying through the mhl adapter? Oh an i powered mine by pluging it into my ps3.
Eat it iPhone said:
Hi guys, i bought the MHL adapter from T-Mobile's website for the Sensation 4G (i have an Evo 3D). I set everything up, plugging the MHL adapter into my phone, standard HDMI into the adapter and TV, and the usb cable into the adapter...
After plugging everything in nothing happens. I even tried playing a video and nothing occurred. How do i activate the video out? Do i just have a bad MHL adapter?
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Funny that you ask this. I just got an MHL adapter off of Amazon that was just the adapter itself (micro USB one end, female HDMI on the other).
I connected the HDMI cable to my TV and MHL adapter, then I connected my MHL adapter to my phone. Last but not least, I connected my power adapter directly to the MHL adapter and my phone started charging.
The input should be immediate from your phone but if it doesn't, check the following:
1. Make sure your TV is on and the input is selected for the proper HDMI port. If nothing is detected, the TV should report that it's receiving no signal.
2. Make sure the power cable is plugged into your MHL adapter. From my experience, it will not push out the HDMI signal without external power.
3. From my experience, you have to connect your phone to the MHL adapter LAST. NOt sure why but if everything else checks out fine and your phone still isn't pushing out a signal, reconnect the phone to the MHL adapter. You should get an HDMI icon on your top bar.
I have the EVO3D stock.
Everything works fine for me (pictures, music, video) except Netflix. For some reason Netflix looks extremely pixellated. Not quite sure why when everything else looks fine.

mhl headbang

I've tried the several listed proper sequences, I've tried USB debugging on and off, and I've tried rebooting my phone repeated times. I have the Menotek adapter others on here have said they've had luck with... but no matter what I do, neither the phone, nor the several TVs I've tried it with have recognized each other. I feel like there must be some setting or program I'm missing. Please help.
I get sound, no video
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My phone is the att stock version. I have the menotenk with rcp and it works every time I use it on a HDTV but if i use it on a dvi device I have to use headphones or any audio cable in the headphone port or at least use a bluetooth audio other wise I get video that plays about a frame every 3 seconds and no audio. If I am not watching a video it will work fine... but that don't seem to be your problem.
Debugging should be off. This is my procedure:
*Make sure you hdmi cable is already connected to the tv. For things like RCP most tv will only work on hdmi port 1, so just to be sure use port 1 on your tv and make dobule sure you are using the right cable for the port.
* Restart your phone, do not load any app that does not load automaticaly.
Make sure tv is on and set for whichever hdmi port that you intend to use.
Hook hdmi cable to your adapter.
Connect your charger to the adapter. (Most tv's will have some sort of reaction to this. My small tv goes from no signal to no video when I do this, my 52" goes from a blue screen saying no signal to a black screen, this might not happen on every tv but if it does in your then you can guess that connection is good.)
Connect the adapter to your phone. (When this happens you should see the charging icon in your phone, also, you will see a message that says something like "hdmi connected", I can't remeber off my head)
In a few seconds you should see your tv flicker and they you should see video and have audio.
Before I got this menotek I bought another brand and it was touch and go with that one, I had to try the above procedure a couple of times and sometimes it would work, most times it would not....
If you are stock and it don't work I will have to say that you have a defective unit.
Sounds like a hassle to me.
I'm on stock firmware using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter. I simply pull the HDMI out of my PS3, and plug it in to the MHL adapter. Then I plug in the power supply. Then I plug the MHL adapter in my phone. Works flawlessly every time...tested on multiple video apps and games.
Snizzoop said:
Sounds like a hassle to me.
I'm on stock firmware using the OEM Samsung MHL adapter. I simply pull the HDMI out of my PS3, and plug it in to the MHL adapter. Then I plug in the power supply. Then I plug the MHL adapter in my phone. Works flawlessly every time...tested on multiple video apps and games.
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Hassle? How so? Sounds like the same thing I do.... I'm trying to help the op, telling him how to connect it probably will not do, If he is reading the instruction on the adapter he is alreading doing that same process, I'm trying to give him a better picture than the instructions on the adapter documentation.

TV Out - how to enable?

Hi,
Noob question...
I bought myself the MHL USB Adapter. I want to output my SGSII to my TV. I tried the obvious and plugged in the adapter into the phone along with the HDMI but nothing happened.
Is there something I need to enable (i.e. when connecting a laptop to a project, you have to press Alt+F4 to change output)??
BTW I am running the latest Cyanogen Mod (update-cm-9-20120606-NIGHTLY-galaxys2-signed).
Only stock Samsung roms will work.
Cm9 official problem list stated same, you should have seen that first.
I bought the cheapest mhl adapter of eBay. The adapter is powered and came with a mains power supply ( a micro USB supply like the GS2 itself) and a vradle . I have to power up the mhl before connecting to the HDMI socket on the TV. Otherwise there is nothing to set up or switch on the phone, it just works, you get the beep and the connection icon in the status bar at the top, like when connecting to a pc by a cable.
I use it to watch rented films from the play store. It gives a very good picture on the TV.
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[Q] MHL cable and OTG cable

If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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According to some of wikipedia entries it should be possible to use mhl and usb otg at the same time with a 11-pin mhl-hdmi adapter.
Wikipedia said:
11-pin MHL-USB Connector
The Samsung Galaxy S III uses a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-USB connector, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously (note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB-OTG port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III can power the MHL-HDMI adapter. Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
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Here you go.
So, it should work. But I couldnt make it work at the moment
I also got one of these 11-pin connectors and like it seems only the S3 has these adapters, so why the **** doesnt it work?? :/
I already asked sammy on facebook, just wondering what they will answer^^
Hopefully we will have some pos. results, dude.
cheers
bordikun said:
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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How would that work since the micro USB connection on the mhl cable is for power / charger?
In those YouTube videos is it possible that they have the mhl cable connected to the TV and power source, and the keyboard and mouse connected wirelessly via Bluetooth?
Confused because you said USB Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. From what I know they aren't USB.
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Samsung should eventually release a dock to use both so unless someone figures it out first you'll just have to wait, because if it just took an 11 pin USB cable someone would have got it working already and we'd know about it, so I reckon it might have some extra circuitry to make it recognised by the phone.
Guys, as I already posted, the connector has 11 pins, so it should be possible to use OTG and MHL features at the same time. thats the only reason sammy brought out this connector and also cause of incompability with the 5-pin connector.
So they should bring the f*ck out somethin for the phone that activates this feature.
And a big problem I have with my mhl-connector is that I cant configure the output
on my 2 TVs at home I get 1080i, (both only 1080i capable), but the picture is kinda oversized so I cant see 100% percent of the picture, only 90% or smt like this.
But the funny part is, that I get on my 1680x1050p PC monitor only 576p screen, what actually sucks So it would be awesome if I could choose the resolution I want to have. But I guess its a thing of the connector (maybe it choose the resolutions iself).
cheers
so the one in the videos using keyboard and mouse are bluetooth thru phone?
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I am SO HARD waiting for THAT "DOCK" hopefully will came out any day soon.
They should do iut fast. I'm waiting so hard for everything get connected with my Phone. It will be awsome if I don't need my Pc anymore.
To use the MHL cable you must have power connected to the adapter.
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bordikun said:
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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That's damn funny because I have wanted to know whether that would work as well, lol.
Did seriously consider trying but as I was on holiday if they broke, I wouldn't be able to get replacement so didn't try it.
In theory I would think it could work, but only if you could somehow wire in power to the hdmi adapter as it appears to need that to run the hdmi aswell as provide power to the phone, at least enough that once the usb adapter tries to demand power to run it isn't enough for the phone to output.
As to whether this is just a a stupid guess and assumption of how the devices and being a noob, I don't know.
If you can get a micro female to male adapter with a usb splitter for power then technically I can't see why it wouldn't work if the limitations are physical as oppose to software based (whole other issue I have no clue about).
EDIT: Wow, when I started that post no one had replied, err, seems a little redundant now, lol. My bad. Also, this 5 minute wait to point this out, have seemed really long...
guess we'll have to wait for that dock.
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[Q] 11 Pin MHL + USB OTG

Hey there, i have tried gathering information about this subject and it seems all threads always lead to this announcement:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Short: Samsung have changed to an 11 Pin-out to enable USB OTG and MHL Hdmi out at the same time. I purchased an original HDTV Adapter (EPL-3FHUBEGSTD) which as far as i can reliably count indeed has about 11 connectors inside the USB connector that goes into the phone.
Now, i can get HDMI out just fine, but ONLY when i also connect the MHL adapter to a power source (a PC USB Port will do fine), however i have also read, that the phone is able to power the MHL adapter itself but obviously would not be charged then (no surprises there). This does not work however.
Further, connecting a USB OTG cable to the micro usb port on the MHL adapter does nothing. No notification and no devices connecting. No power either, since the LED on my USB Hub does not light up as it should. Connecting any devices to the hub does nothing to change that situation. If i leave out the MHL adapter and connect the USB OTG cable directly to the phone, everything works perfectly. I have tried this with 2 different OTG cables so they are not the problem.
This is an original genuine HDTV Adapter for our phones, which according to that post should be working fine with USB OTG.
AFAIK, this topic --does-- come up more frequently now as i can find a few more discussions about it, albeit none really helpful:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-of-11-pin-mhl-connector-in-samsung-galaxy-s3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743128
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803079
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#11-pin_MHL-USB_Connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
That wiki entry is the most interesting link as it definitely states that using MHL and USB OTG simultaneously is possible and is also the reason why the 5 pin layout was changed to an 11 Pin layout.
Looking forward to reading your replies!
the ability to use MHL and OTG simultaneously would give the S3 so much more purpose. It is powerful enough to replace a desktop computer used only for light stuff like browsing and watching videos, and even simple gaming. If samsung made a dock like the one for the motorola atrix I'm convinced they will broaden their target group. The atrix got everything right with this but is inferior hardware wise. I love the idea of a one device for everything concept. Unfortunately it doesn't rhyme very well with the growth society.
Love the MHL and the OTG is even better only after I got the correct cables as the cables changed on S3 to the S2 version, unlimited space for watching films on my phone is now awesome and even better connecting it to to the TV just need a good dock,
is there perhaps any expert advise on this? According to multiple sources it should work but really doesnt. Did i buy the wrong mhl adapter?
I think they will only both work together when being used with an MHL enabled tv. That way the power comes from the tv and the usb on the adapter can be used for the usb-otg cable.
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But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
joysleep said:
But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
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I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
mertzi said:
I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
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It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
joysleep said:
It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
mertzi said:
Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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I have recently received an MHL connector (5 pin type) and the samsung 11 to 5 pin adapter for it. I can confirm that if I plug my OTG cable into it, and then into my powered USB hub, I can get the MHL to work just fine, both video and audio. The OTG cable powers it just fine, but does NOT allow me to use other devices attached to the USB hub.
I am still researching. I suspect you need to bring all 11 pins off the phone with a splitter of some sort, or possibly wire data lines through the MHL. Probably not with the 5 pin MHL connector and 11 to 5 pin adapter, but with the full 11 pin MHL adapter. I am not up to that level of hardware hacking. I suspect whoever does it first can sell a BUNCH of them!
Oh, and I have a Moto Lapdock for my Raspberry Pi, and would love to hook my S3 to it too!
Scott

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