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dev paul has two gingerbread roms named sonybread and minicm7 pro...what are the differences between them...and which one is more stable?
a167195 said:
dev paul has two gingerbread roms named sonybread and minicm7 pro...what are the differences between them...and which one is more stable?
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They are identical, built on the same engine, only the differences in design.
Sonybread is based on Android 2.3.5 and it looks like genuine ( original ) Sony Ericsson ROM ( blue screen, 4 corners with apps ). There is no ADW launcher.
MiniCM7 Pro is also based on Android 2.3.5, but it looks differently than Sony Ericsson ROM. It looks like, hmmmm, a Matrix phone. There is a ADW launcher.
In MiniCM7 Pro v7x battery last longer than in Sonybread 7 SP3. If Paul will fix battery drain issue on Sonybread, I recomend that ROM as it looks like a proper ROM from Sony Ericsson. Meanwhile, I recommend miniCM7 Pro because battery last longer.
Thank you for reading my post. Bye.
vwrafi said:
Sonybread is based on Android 2.3.5 and it looks like genuine ( original ) Sony Ericsson ROM ( blue screen, 4 corners with apps ). There is no ADW launcher.
MiniCM7 Pro is also based on Android 2.3.5, but it looks differently than Sony Ericsson ROM. It looks like, hmmmm, a Matrix phone. There is a ADW launcher.
In MiniCM7 Pro v7x battery last longer than in Sonybread 7 SP3. If Paul will fix battery drain issue on Sonybread, I recomend that ROM as it looks like a proper ROM from Sony Ericsson. Meanwhile, I recommend miniCM7 Pro because battery last longer.
Thank you for reading my post. Bye.
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I agree. I have had problems with Sony Bread SP3 (bluetooth/gps/wifi) so I moved back to (and stayed with) MiniCM.
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a167195 said:
dev paul has two gingerbread roms named sonybread and minicm7 pro...what are the differences between them...and which one is more stable?
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My experience is that SonyBread is much more stable. I havn't had a single reboot with this ROM over a period of 2 weeks. Had a 1 with minicm7 pro over a period of 2 weeks.
I started on this forum when Owain was still here pumping out daily updates for his ROM... havent posted much though
Firstly, BIG ups to the devs for their work on these ROMS. Although I have quite a few issues, I can honestly say that every rom Ive used, despite its issues, has been usable and has stayed on my phone very long (all except Sonybread, explanation to follow)
From the above, the only really bad issue ive experienced are reboots. From this, I can honestly say that the only time I have had these are at initial ROM setup eg on MiniCM6, I installed, then rebooted INTO CWM, then wiped twice, then rebooted into CWM and wiped twice again (kinda like my butt, but on my X10MP )to solve the issue. Each ROM Ive installed has had its drawbacks. Owain was pre- dualtouch; Slade_87s CM6 tends to develop a bad temper at initial install but mellowed after wiping its arse and if you install a theme it doesnt like and has some setup anomalies (easily addressed if you search); Pauls Sonybread looks like stock on steroids... but suffers from screen issues on my phone ie the screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to use the phone is to take the battery off (funny enough, the buttons all work fine!)
All the above are just opinions. As stated in another post, if you want useability, stability and support, stick with SE. However, if you want to be on the bleeding edge and actually us the superior hardware on your device (instead of paying for **** you hardly ever use), get a decent ROM from XDA. You might not get the paid support that SE will give and you might have to live with a few small issues, but you get WAY more than youve paid for!
That said, XDA DEVS have done sterling jobs. As I said, Ive tried a lot of ROMS.
Pauls Sonybread seemed like a really good rom for the week I had it on my phone. Random reboot aide, it was great. However, for some reason, if I happened to put the phone down with the screen downwards, the screen became unresponsive. The same happened if I put the phone in my pocket. Now, by unresponsive, I mean that the screen refused to respond to any input for about 20 minutes... then suddenly would respond to ALL keypresses during that time. Wierd. I have lost LOTS of business as a result and almost got my ass fired cos of missed calls... so till I can get this ROM working properly on MY device, its been relegated to my backup X10MP. Funny enough, its ben running on THAT device for about 3 days without incident (not even a reboot!)
On the other hand, CM7 wasnt Pauls ROM to start off with. Paul took over this ROM and has done a sterling job with it. I havent had a single issue with it and this ROM is currently running on the device I use on a day to day basis (I have a Nokia 3310 as backup... JSUT in case ). Besides the setup issues (you cant install a bloody thing till youve wiped a few times AFTER flashing the ROM), and the battery drain issues, I havent a single problem. Currently, it looks like the drain issue has been sorted. Im on 73% from full charge after 5H50Min22s (according to About Phone), which seems like quite along toime to me.
In essence, what Im saying is that all the ROMS have their bright spots and all have their faults. Personally, Im gonna stick with CM6. The thing is purely brilliant and meets my needs perfectly. I went from discovery to working perfectly in about 20 minutes... However, Ill be watching for FM Broadcast.apk (or .zip) and the first ROM to include this will definately get my vote.
YMMV. Dont forget the salt (just a pinch), a tampon (incase youre a bleeder), a lighter (cos where theres bull****, theres methane) and spare batteries (cos no matter WHAT you do, theres gonna be battery issues )
Regards,
Wingnut
I use MiniCM7 Pro v10 which all the minicm7 pro's from v7 onwards have always been very stable, i also use sonyblue 1.2 theme with the semchome.apk which gives the newer version of the SE 4 corners so that way i have the stability of MiniCM7 Pro v10 with the looks of sonybread
I still have ADW launcher aswell which i can switch back n forth between the 2
enlightening... thanks!
Just installed MiniCM7 Pro v15. Did all the usual stuff for installation(which usually turns out great). Also flashed back to the stock kernel(link for download provided in the MiniCM7 Pro dev thread) but the rom feels really slow. Like syrup so to speak. Any one else having this problem? Possible solution/fix?
Would have posted as commentary in the MiniCM7 Pro dev thread, but haven't posted enough posts yet to post in dev forum
-6u4rdi4n
I'm in the same situation, I'm not able to post at the dev forum because of my few posts, but, thank god i finally found someone with the same frustration than me
I've been expecting a more stable version of the MiniCM7 Pro than the V9, and seems like, every version that comes out brings more and more problems.
Seems so. Noticed more having performance issues with the new version. Good recommandation: GinTonic.SE v2 with the zombie panic kernel. Fast as hell ^^ Been testing it for a while now, and seems very stable and reliable
6u4rdi4n said:
Seems so. Noticed more having performance issues with the new version. Good recommandation: GinTonic.SE v2 with the zombie panic kernel. Fast as hell ^^ Been testing it for a while now, and seems very stable and reliable
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Thank you, I'll give it a try after work. Cuz i'm getting tired of CM7 Pro
well i'm still sticking to v12 (cause v13 14 15 have serious issues). it's fast it's stable it's battery life is amazing. everything works what i'm using without a hitch. Dunno what else i'm expecting from later versions ... but still i'm waiting it's now like a disease for me
Me too. No offence to the devs, but the rom is looking hopeless at the moment. Love the themes on it tho
i don't have anything against devs they are doing a good job. it's we who are getting impatient so don't start blaming them for this and remember what they already did for our minis when i installed v12 i thought i got a new phone. other roms work good and are really fast and stable but MiniCM7 pro satisfied all my needs.
No one is blaming the devs. But as you said, pretis, we are getting impatient. All of the devs have done a great job, but now, the MiniCM7 Pro is really messed up
You guys have encouraged me to give it a chance to V12, I'm alredy downloading it, I'll tell you later if everything is going well, and by the way, I'm not blaming the devs, they're doing an amazing job, I can't even think of myself using Android 2.1 again in my cellphone, any rom with bugs is waaaay more better than that.
I'll install V12 and wait until a more stable version is released.
P.S. I'm dying to have 10 posts to be able to thank the devs in the dev forums.
Thank you all I don't feel alone on this.. I've spend 1 week testing almost every gingerbread release from CMpro, DX & gin tonic, using the lasts kernel each time... and the more I'm testing the more I consider it is not usable on a daily basis. Main concerns to me are:
- battery life, compared to stock, it's difficult to keep 24h where stock is no issue with same sync/option on ...
- it lags! sometime it's lightning fast to go to home page and switch to the phone app, sometime you wait ages ...
- screen brightness is a mess (even If I've check multiple option and the posts about setting up custom level) still compared to stock SE, when you're out in the street on a shiny day you wait ages for the screen to adapt, where the stock 2.1 just works perfectly
- delay for lock screen or schema screen to show, with brightness issue... When you click on the on button on the stock, the screen just light up with good brightness and you can slide, on the 2.3.x, it lag and then brightness is slow to go tot the right level and then you can slide ...
- video capture, lag, when you film, capture freeze sometimes ...
- FM radio issues: frequencies written in unreadable green, name of station overlapping with freq.
All these to say, after more than 35 flash or all Dx, CMpro & GT from v8 to v15, feeling is that it's getting worst ... That's said, I'm more than happy to do those testing, yet I was wondering if any of you guys are really using those ROM on a daily basis without a second phone aside ?
I've turned back to 2.1 with go launcher and titanium backup to remove all SE crap tool/software and I'm quite happy with the phone ... I'll wait for 2.3.5 to be brightness bug free and battery proof.
Regards,
Benoit
benoitm974:
For brightness, adjust it manually. Not only does it save power(if you set it to not more than you need at all times), but you also more or less get the light you need instant.
At the moment, Im using the lastes GinTonic with the zombie panic kernel, and I have to say that Ive not encountered any problem with it yet!
Even the lifetime of the battery is superior to the stock rom, and I tried a lot with the stock one before going for custom rom permanently.
This phone is used on a day to day basis and the only second phone I have avaible is somewhere in my basement
I just bricked my Vibrant trying to install one rom through Odin. I sent it off to get repaired and should have it back tomorrow.
Which rom should I be attempting to install? I use to install maybe 3-5 roms every time I was going to change or "upgrade" but that gets old.
I'm not sure with the 2.2.1 or 2.3 roms but with 2.2 you can't go wrong with Project V or Bionix.
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I'm not sure with the 2.2.1 or 2.3 roms but with 2.2 you can't go wrong with Project V or Bionix.
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Those are both great 2.2 roms and they got me through many months of vibrant useage, I have nothing but respect for the devs but they are a little bit outdated simply due to the fact that the teams are working on other projects currently.
Like I said they are good but here is my breakdown (my preferences are to have to to as little as possible on the spot fixes, in a perfect world no fixes would be cool but it would take so so so much work and the Devs that make these roms are already awesome enough to do this in their spare time for us vibrant users. But I do prefer when fixes or tweaks are in the op that are known to be compatible)
NONE OF THIS IS OUT OF ANY DISRESPECT TO ANY DEV, I JUST WANT TO HELP PEOPLE FIND A GOOD ROM FOR THEM.
For 2.2 :
I would say Toxic Crazy 8, They are very fast but as with many 2.2 roms it has a bug where there's no voice mail notification icon. This may be no big deal to you as there are many workarounds including the use of aps like visual voicemail.
Zendroid does not have the voicemail issue but does freeze up and get laggy during heavy use (for me at least).
2.2.1. :
For 2.2.1 Bi-Winning is a solid rom. It hasnt been updated for a while so it may not have all the tweaks of newer roms but it is fast and stable. I personally missed having any skin or smiley's in my sms. This is something that can be altered by a user but I am reviewing based on an out of the flash experience.
Jrafaels Port of Ultimate is awesome! The only thing I had to do was download launcher pro and I was set and stable. Very Fast! super quick on aplication loading!
Froyo Kernels :
For speed and battery life combined, my favorite was immortality 2.2.
The dev has switched to GB now so no more updates but its great and stable as is.
For all out battery and a small sacrifice in multitasking speed Bali, I forget which specific version but its the one that will come with Toxic Crazy 8.
Gingerbread:
I have never flashed a Samsung made rom (JVS, JVR, the upcoming JVT etc..) This is partly due to complication of installation for me as well as being scared off by reading about some difficult bugs in the forum. If I was not planning on buying Tmobiles sgs2 asap I would be playing with them. I really liked explodingboys froyo roms (simply galaxy) as well as EDT's members roms but as I stated I'm apprehensions to attempt a flash. (once i bricked because I missed some op instructions on simply honey)
CM7.1 and Nightlies :
These are less intimidating to try than they seem when first reading the op. Cyanogenmod is really cool and impressive, instead of rebuilding a samsung (or any brands) rom they made their own. Its really high caliber work and I will not be at all surprised if I see Cyanogen mod powering one or more future STOCK Samsung devices.
However, with nightlies you cant dial 911 for an emergency. this is an experimental build so DONT GET MAD AT THE DEV, but it still freaks me out enough to not use it as a daily driver.
my Number 1 ROM is ::::::::: MIUI stock version
I must add that every current version of MIUI is pretty stable and amazing. The reason I want to be stock MIUI for now is because the PowerMod System Enhancer (currently MIUI exclusive) will litterally make your phone about twice as fast and better battery of around 10 to 14 hours depending on usage, some may get more.
I have tried MIUI 3 times and the first two were in june and august of this year. Since then it has become stable enough for use as a daily driver. Play with the themes app for a bit and understand what customization really is
Tweaked kernel V2 is great for speed as well as battery on MIUI.
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GPS : It is important to know that many (myself included, ive had it in three vibrants) have a hardware defect that makes GPS not work. From what I can remember from some old forum that i couldnt find today, the GPS chip is touching something else on the inside and it screws it up. There are hardware fixes but much like adding a FFC I am WAYYYY to scared to try that stuff hahah
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BIGGEST THING : READ EVERY OP CAREFULLY, THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME INSTRUCTIONS AND I WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING NOTES WHILE READING BECAUSE YOU DONT WANT TO BE LOOKING AT A RECOVERY SCREEN TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO NEXT
I may post this in another section if I see people with similar questions so please dont get mad at me xda as I said I just want to help, you can let me know if I did with the Thanks Button.
I gave up on GPS a long time ago, If I need a GPS, I use my Garmin if I am that lost anyway, I will be way out of TMobile range...
NextGenV2 by team whiskey rocks for me with the Bullet Kernel
I have recently swtiched to Simply Stock 2.3.5 ( JVT ) it is wicked fast!! if you follow the directions.. use the BG Bootloaders.. and put them on with Odin 1.85.. format your mounts on each flash ( the cache, system and data) you will be a ok...
hmm well if you managed to brick via odin to the point of having to get a replacement then i don't recommend any of the 2.3 roms based on Samsung since they all require a GB Bootloader for CWR and rainbow fixing.
Froyo recommendations are the same as what the prior posters said. as far as Gingerbread goes i recommend Miui there are currently 3 flavors in the development sub forum Revamped, & Lithium by Nick and his Production 360 Group, and Stock Miui
my easy to follow install guide for CM7/Miui
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14xGkh3BuU1OYR6eYY0XAk6BoRHsQAPWEHeVSJ1HcioI/edit?hl=en_US
bionix v and the bali 1.8.8 kernel and ur good to go.
Miui *stock* (based on Android 2.3.5) in my opinion is the best. It's very easily customizable and updated every week! All you have to do is open the updater app to update, no need to fiddle with CWR and no PC necessary... You should at least try it, i'm sure you won't regret it.
Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)
how many of you still using stock 2.1 ROM ?
Sometimes if I've screwed up my phone (rare) I'll get back on the stock ROM and I kind of like it. I think the stock SE style is elegant and beautiful, and I like many of the stock apps. I just like the features of 2.3 and the inbuilt efficiency of 2.3 etc. I always try to get some stock SE styles on the newer ROMS, and try hard to get as many stock apps as possible.
Unless I'm slightly dim and missed something, I CANNOT use the stock Cyanogen calendar without connecting to the internet. That is NOT a calendar option. Having to connect to the internet to just look at a date is just stupid and not a benefit from the stock ROM.
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how many of you still using stock 2.1 ROM ?
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I had minicm7 for while but I went back to stock, besides the stability I just missed the UI
I just hate stock 2.1 and how it looks and feels. MiniCM7 2.1.3 w/ stock kernel is a LOT faster and generally better than 2.1 ever was/will be. My phone is as stable as it can be. I have left it at stock overclock which is 691Mhz and it NEVER reboots.
Only time it does reboot, is when I force it to.
I still use it, but is because both xRecovery and CWM have problems. Tried everthing to make it work again, but nothing happens.
There are no problems with CWM and x10 mini pro.
A better version of the original UI (theme, launcher) can be found on the newer ROMs like MiniCM7 and Gintonic.
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I do is a lot more faster!!
Probably this is just about the x10 mini, not pro. But i guess, the preinstalled OS and software are pretty much the same, although i had a 1.6 when i bought it.
I was using this for a quite long time, roundabout one year, as i was a bit uncertain to brick my device in case i screw up or don't read something carefully enough.
But on a boring day i went and gave it a try (MiniCM7 pro, iirc it was right when V14 was released). While fearing as f*ck during installation process and waiting until complete (showing no errors - YES ), i was totally happy afterwards. So no, i would never ever switch back to the standard software which Sony Ericsson released with this phone. It was slow, battery consuming and it had way less features than the custom ROM i'm using now. I'm happy with that.
I'm surprised by some of the responses - the thread title is primarilly aimed at those who use the original SE (at least a little or all of the time). No where in the title do I see an invitation to complain about stock 2.1 and advertise about the brilliance of other ROMs. Seriously, re-read the title...
Sorry for that - i thought the thread kind of indicated a discussion of why or why not use the stock rom. No offense meant
Still use the default ROM
I kinda like the ROM that originally came with the mobile, and still use it.
I ROOTed the mobile though, within one month of purchase, as the battery was a serious problem (due to autoruns).
After Rooting, I am able to get at least 1 day of battery.
There was even a time when the battery lasted for three days before it came to 5%.
(I put my phone on charge only when it reaches 5% or below )
r/\\J35h
XPERIA X10 mini
(Rooted)
i only use stock when a custom rom is somewhat unstable then once a new release of one of my favorite roms come out i run for it and install it immediately and test it. if the rom is stable enough i keep it and stick with it.
for now i use stock rom until gintonic or minicm7 pro is stable enough to use it in all its features.
i'm planning to try gintonic 2.5.1 to continue testing of it
From the moment i buy this amazing phone i didn't like that blue background. At the moment i use mod black v 1.6 from flex96 and when slade87 add Zombiepanic to his rom gin tonic.SE. I'll use this one
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I hate the Stock version
I have miniCM7-2.1.3 and a HTC sense Theme it´s much better then the Stock
I like stock rom because of radio, timescape, works all the applications, no lag etc but i have minicm7 because i need dsp and ultra brightness (especially the second is very important here in Greece with the sun) so ..
Those WHO of YOU likes STOCK ROM. Here is a POST to simply find them under ONE Roof >>>>>>>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1587177
WHo knows you could be surprised!!!!
hello there well im new to this android thing
i got x10 for a cheap price
and i have to say its a good phone
but well the in call volume is too low
while browsing and searching the x10 forums i found out
that there are some roms that can fix that issue
so whats the best rom for x10
btw its rooted
MODEL number : x10i
Android version : 2.3.3
Baseband version: 2.1.7.1
Kernel version: 2.6.29-00054-g5f01537 [email protected]#1
Build number: 3.0.1.G.0.75
Depending on your taste, it boils down to stock based, cyanogenmod, or miui. I prefer miui for many reasons, I use it for my business and its been very usefull. You can get roms that are for gaming, or ones with all the stock bells and whistles like facebook and timescape but to say which is best is tough.
Im using Oodies miui 1.11.4 and I love it, but if I still had a locked bootloader I would use cobratos because his froyo miui was the best and so I trust hes very good. I think you should try miui, but Im biased. Just make sure you read the original post start to finish and follow it carefully, avoid yourself some trouble and unnecessary posts for help. The x10 when properly modded is awesome and saves you from buying the new expensive phones for now, this phone can do alot when rooted have fun.
thank you that was really helpful
i found that thread about
Best performance and best look for your x10!
it got a rom by someone called Oodie
i like that rom the looks and they say it will fix the in call volume
but i wonder if its gonna work on my phone i dunno how to apply it
I have to agree with Bugly. You will get a headache if you were to attempt to figure out which ROM is best. A difficult task indeed. I strongly believe that it all boils down to personal preference my friend. Assuming you are locked BL, if you desire customization then go with MIUI based ROM. If you want the very basic, very dependent, user friendly, and contains all the bells and whistle then go with Wolf's take on the GB firmware.. Again, it all boils down to personal preference bud. You will have fun with this phone. Rooting opens many doors bro. Get at it.
Oh hey some tips to look out for.
-Look for ROMS that come prerooted (In most cases, most ROMs do)
-Review the features of the kernel being used in the ROM.
-Remove your FPScaps immediately and enjoy super speeds bro (Most ROMS support the FPS uncap hack, but you can flash the actual FPS hack yourself via xrecovery. If anything, I will attach the zip. to this comment.)
- With constant experimenting come constant trials and errors. You will run into walls and get stuck from time to time. Always make a backup of your current ROM and DATA.
@venix10
Root your phone and take the time to learn how to unlock Bootloader with Flashtool! Then it's easy to shift between different 'flavors'.
I have always been a great fan of WolfBreak, but like MIUI as well. WolfBreak has better battery, while MIUI has a lot of themes...
Bugsy
I used wolfbreaks roms back in the froyo days, they are top quality but in all honesty Id say ewjet is probably better overall, and would be my next choice after MIUI. The main thing about MIUI I like isnt just the themes, its the nicely done contacts and sms UI, along with the unbeatable pull down curtain that has all your toggles, so many to list I cant see anyone not liking it.
ok and since you guys had the x10 for a longtime i guess
is there a solution for the low in call volume ? is there some sort of a fix
There is a ´addon´ called xLoud, it really up your volume. But, i suggest to stay away .. cause can damage your louder/phone sound.
yeah i heard of it but are there any other ways
and another thing
i heard about the bravia engine what it do what are the pros and the cons of it
Bugly Astard said:
I used wolfbreaks roms back in the froyo days, they are top quality but in all honesty Id say ewjet is probably better overall, and would be my next choice after MIUI. The main thing about MIUI I like isnt just the themes, its the nicely done contacts and sms UI, along with the unbeatable pull down curtain that has all your toggles, so many to list I cant see anyone not liking it.
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I totally agree! Oodie's Prime 4.1 is the best I have tried! 93% Deep Sleep last night... Say no more...
WB is by no means bad, but compared to MIUI looks a bit "old"...
Bugsy